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UKIP: Gary Cartwright on Nigel Farage

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/10/2012

UKIP: Gary Cartwright on Nigel Farage

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Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

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The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

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UKIP: Gary Cartwright on Nigel Farage who is UKIP!

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UKIP: Gary Cartwright on Nigel Farage

From Gary Cartwright’s blog:

I was highly amused to see a certain party leader looking like a scared rabbit caught in car headlights, desperately explaining to a Tory chum his thoughts on a referendum in Brussels a couple of weeks ago.

I wonder what has suddenly made him so concerned about a referendum now?

Better Late Than Never!
Demanding of David Cameron a promise of a referendum “written in blood” is all jolly stirring stuff, but when the person in question didn’t actually sign the petition calling for a referendum until after it had actually been presented to 10 Downing Street, those words sound somewhat hollow. But words are cheap, and easy to come by.
Unlike collecting 220,000 signatures, forcing a debate in the Commons, and provoking a back-bench revolt, all of which required great effort and some financial cost, words actually count for little unless they are backed up with deeds. UKIP’s words rarely seem to be backed up with deeds. The party has descended into a world of yaa-boo politics: name calling and jeering from the sidelines. The party is simply not interesting anymore.

It amused me, although it did not surprise me, when after the first 100,000 signatures were handed in and we learned there was to be a debate on a referendum on our continued membership of the EU, no less than 3 other groups tried to take the credit for it. I remember well UKIP’s feeble and half-hearted attempt at raising a petition. It appers to have acheived nothing – apart that is from an expenditure of a substantial 6 figure sum. I have often wondered where that money went…

As we approach our inaugural conference on Friday 5th, at Westminster Central Hall, I expect the usual libels and slanders that I have come to expect from the UKIP press office to start oozing to the surface. If you can’t do anything, attack those who can, seems to be the strategy. Probably the only strategy UKIP has, I am afraid.

When I think of the UKIP press office, for some reason the words of Lewis Carroll: “T’was brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe…” come into my mind.

To read the original: LINK
To which I have responded:

Hi,

do you not feel Gary is being a little harsh on Farage’s party, when after all it has only cost the tax payers around £50,000,000 over the years for UKIP to achieve the sum total of:

– come to think of it, beyond defame and malign a lot of people, wind up with MEPs in prison, lie to the Courts and to the police what have they achieved of value?

Then of course there was the way in which they seem to have slept their way into the choice of all too many of their staff, lied on a consistent basis, both to Regional Committees, electorate and members about their various thefts and sordid corruption.

Might it be: What seems to have been over egging the rigging of a vote, to do away with member’s democratic input and turn the party into a one man band dictatorship, (as made abundantly clear in Marta Andreassen’s full interview given to Michael Crick – which one must assume will be presented in suitable form for an election!) with appointed pond life and low lifes doing as Farage orders as he holds the purse strings, all staff appointments, positions in selection lists, and of course it seems he hold the rigging rights for votes and funding for bribes!

Might their achievement be to have pulled together a leadership clique that hold onto office only by bribery, bullying, dishonesty and intimidation?

Could it be the facility of stealing money to use as bribes just as Tom Wise did though he was rightly sent to prison for his criminality!

One wonders why Derek Clark was not also as he was ordered to repay almost exactly the same sum which he had misappropriated and Nigel Farage, Graham Booth, and Jeffrey Titford were also ordered to repay money to the public purse.

I note you also do not know what happened to the money taken from the public purse by Farage, Lott, Croucher etc. for a petition which was never presented and were you not a staffer at the time! Seems UKIP leadership are consistent on one count – corruption.

Farage has time and again gone on public media and outright lied just as Malcolm Pearson lied when leader to deselect Nikki Sinclaire becauser as an MEP she was showing up the other UKIP MEPs with the transparency of her accounts and her dedication, ethicality and workload (a sure way to make enemies in UKIP!) currently Stuart Agnew and David Bannerman are, I am reliably informed – still under investigation by OLAF for their abuse of trust in elected office and misuse of public money (as with Tom Wise who went to prison for his crimes).

Interestingly UKIP make much of trying to befoul Sinclaire’s name yet OLAF have absolutely no interest in investigating her, despite what seem to be ‘set up fantasies’ spun to West Midlands Police by John Ison, seemingly for his preferment in political rivalry as promised by UKIP – and since only one man in UKIP makes the decisions clearly he must have authorised the attempted set up!

Sadly Gary – your posting is accurate and it is clear there isn’t a single solitary achievement of note for the £50,000,000 or so we, as tax payers, have permitted UKIP to steal, purloin, squander and abuse.

Yet it is possible to achieve as an MEP, as Nikki Sinclaire has most ably shown, even using her own money for the cause where the rest of UKIP leadership seem to think paying money for their own election is some sort of magnanimous gesture – beyond that what money has ANY UKIP MEP ever donated to the good of the party?

So sad when they had such potential and hardly surprising they try to jump on every passing band wagon!

In reality UKIP leadership are beneath contempt – just a gaggle of racist, abusive self seekers of little or no merit!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.
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Isn’t it astonishing that some of the most consistently corrupt politicians slide through every situation, be it drunkeness, consorting with prostitutes, self enrichment, sexual abuse, abuse of power need I go on? We all have watched in horrified disgust as ‘teflon coated politicians’ oleaginously slide through every challenge.
Tony Blair clocked up almosty every aspect of such horror and added war crimes and crimes against humanity unchallenged, as Clinton in his sexual inadequacy needed reassurance at every opportunity even so far as rape – it is not just Jimmy Saville and the entertainment business that expresses its inadequacies and inferiority by exploiting sex with the vulnerable.
Then again let us face it – since political decision making of any meaning is an undemocratic process of imposition by unelected beauraucrats on a top down basis with no regard to the wishes of the people most politicians are relegated to being little more than entertainers – perhaps this inadequacy explains the way in which so called leaders are able to act in a criminal manner or at best amorally!

Regards,

Greg_L-W..

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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.

They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then  still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01594 – 528 337

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS: ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.

Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!

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