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IMMIGRANTS & TOURIST Rights To Healthcare – Remind Farage & Cameron!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/03/2013

IMMIGRANTS & TOURIST Rights To Healthcare – Remind Farage & Cameron!

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we hear Farage & the Tories competing for who can be seen to be most beastly to immigrants, the most effectively, but perhaps they should take a glance at the law as it actually stands!

Here is the law on Tourist & immigrant rights to Healthcare, or for that matter the rights of UK citizens (which due to the folly of being members of The EU includes all those millions of EU vassals and the subordinate states)

Healthcare

This page explains what healthcare you can receive while you are living in the UK.

You will be able to receive healthcare from the National Health Service (NHS). Some or all of this may be free of charge, depending on your residency status and how long you have been living here.

Permanent residents of the UK do not have to pay for treatment by a general practitioner (GP) or at a hospital.

Permanent residents on a low income may qualify for extra free healthcare such as NHS prescriptions, dental care, sight tests and vouchers to help them buy glasses. More information is on the NHS website.

If you are a visitor to the UK or have temporary permission to live here (known as ‘limited leave to remain‘), you may be able to register with a GP in your area and receive free treatment. The GP can decide whether or not to register you. You may not be able to receive the full range of hospital treatment, because you must be a permanent resident or have lived here for a year to qualify for it. This applies even if you are a British citizen or have lived or worked here in the past.

You can find out more about this in the Department of Health’s guidance for overseas visitors.

Some health services are free of charge to everyone. These are:

  • treatment given in an accident and emergency (A&E) department or in an NHS walk-in centre that provides services similar to those of an A&E department;
  • treatment for certain infectious diseases (but for HIV/AIDS, only the first diagnosis and counselling that follows it are free);
  • compulsory psychiatric treatment; and
  • family planning services.

Certain categories of people are able to receive the full range of hospital treatment. These include asylum applicants whose application is still being considered, anyone who has lived here legally for the previous 12 months, and diplomatic staff. For the full list, see the Department of Health guidance.

A few categories of visitor can receive treatment for conditions that occurred after their arrival in the UK. This includes residents of the European Economic Area, or of countries with which the UK has bilateral healthcare agreements. See our Rights and responsibilities page for European nationals. The Department of Health guidance also contains more details.

If you are not in one of the categories that can receive free treatment, you may be asked to pay for any hospital treatment you receive. You may therefore wish to ensure that you have health insurance to cover your stay in the UK.

In an emergency, you should go to the nearest hospital that has an A&E department. If you cannot get there yourself, phone 999 or 112 and ask for an ambulance. These calls are free from any phone, including mobile phones, but must only be used in an emergency.

For more advice and information, see the NHS website or phone NHS Direct on 0845 4647.

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The disastrous effects of British politicians selling Britain into the thrall of foreign rule by the EU for their own personal rewards has damaged the well-being of Britain more than the armies of Hitler and the Franco – German – Italian axis of 1939 – 1945.

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FT History of the Rise of Farage & HIS Political Cult

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/03/2013

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FT History of the Rise of Nigel Farage & HIS Political Cult!
Failure of The FT to show any analysis demeans the article as just a PR stunt!
So let’s look at some of the points from my personal perspective, as a supporter of UKIP’s sometime core aims since long before Farage left school!
A supporter of UKIP and believer that for UKIP to be of any value to Britain it MUST clean up its act and introduce some gravitas and structure, training and ethicality or it will remain unfit for purpose, just a one man band out of control!

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Nigel Farage

By George Parker

For David Cameron and Britain’s other mainstream politicians, Ukip’s maverick leader now poses a clear and present danger. Is it time to take him seriously? By George Parker
Nigel Farage©Philip Sinden

On election day May 6 2010, a man in a pinstriped suit boarded a light aircraft at Hinton-in-the-Hedges, Northamptonshire. Trailing on the dewy grass was a banner bearing a forlorn last-minute appeal: “Vote for Your Country – Vote UKIP.” Hardly anyone bothered to turn up.

While the world focused on a grey-faced Gordon Brown’s desperate fight to cling to power and on David Cameron confidently preparing for Downing St, the plane began its ascent over the English countryside. Within minutes, it was clear something was badly wrong: the banner was wrapped around the aircraft’s tail and rudder.

Nigel Farage’s relentlessly upbeat demeanour suddenly changes. “I thought: this is probably it,” he says. What does he remember? “The noise. The noise of the nose hitting the ground. Bang! I can still hear that.” His voice cracks.

“I barely want to think about it but I was upside down, completely caved in. I could hardly breathe, I was covered in fuel oil. I was desperate to get out … desperate. I kept pushing … I couldn’t get out. I thought, this thing is going to catch fire. Very scary. I promise you – that is very, very scary.”
Interestingly the pilot Justin Adams was trapped in the plane for a considerable time and suffered long term damage yet there is never any mention of him. Adams insisted that Farage sought compensation from his general accident indemnity yet he himself lost his plane, his business and aas a result his home and was divorced  whilst Farage having effectively gagged him ensured he himself gained cuedos & even foolishly alluded to a Messianic status having survived!

Sadly Justin Adams, seriously damaged by the events, was persecuted by the law and Farage’s claims led to his imprisonment!

This is Farage, leader of the UK Independence party, as you never see him. The heavy-smoking, beer-drinking maverick – scourge of Brussels and terror of Britain’s political elite – is a man lodged in the public consciousness as a jovial insurgent, dispensing barroom wisdom with remorseless good cheer.

It is the bar room wisdom masquerading as policy dispensed on the fly that has done so much harm to UKIP as a party and converted it from serious politics to a cult right down to the hired and paid ‘Praise Singers’ more redollent of third world politics!

But there is another side to Farage. The man pulled from the wreckage – sternum split, lung punctured, 10 bones broken, rosette slightly askew – emerged with a new-found purpose. Behind the jokey façade is a man with a deadly serious intent: to smash open the British political system and lead the UK out of the European Union.

“I think the accident made him more ruthless and more single-minded,” says David Campbell Bannerman, a former Ukip deputy leader. The British public and an increasingly anxious political elite across Europe are now starting to ask: “Where did Nigel Farage come from and where is he heading?”

Nigel Farage©Philip Sinden

Although Ukip has been around for 20 years and won 13 seats in the last European elections, the party’s rise under Farage’s leadership has been remarkable.

So also, it is worth noting, has the fall in identifiable individuals of probity and ethics amongst its activists where it seems personal ambition is best fulfilled, not by espousing ‘Leave-The-EU’ but by adding to the Farage cult mind set with unconstructive blind promotion of ‘Our Glorious Leader’.

The big leap forward was during the leadership of Roger Knapman which Farage inheritted but even so under Farage he has fallen out with and lost about 1/3rd. of his MEPs and it is only now that his partyu is clawing back to its previous membership levels of approaching 30,000, the recent climb back aided by issuing free membership for a period!

When Farage fell from the Northamptonshire skies on polling day in 2010, the crash was little more than a footnote in the general election. Ukip polled a modest 3 per cent and Farage’s own attempt to oust the House of Commons Speaker John Bercow in his Buckingham seat was a conspicuous failure: he was even beaten into third place by a strongly pro-European independent candidate. For many, the crumpled figure hauled out of the wreckage that morning was already a busted flush.

Less than three years later, and Farage is revelling in his party’s best-ever result in a parliamentary election. Ukip did not win the Eastleigh by-election, but it would be hard to tell from the demeanour of the party leader as he swaggers through a crowd of well-wishers amid a sea of lurid purple banners in the faded town centre.

The swagger4 is of course a studied pose as when one looks at the actual results in domestic elections over the last 3 months there is little reflection of the much quoted successes and generous pollsters results.

To be fair Farage has had  a couple of notable successes in by elections which stood out from the norm but even so after 20 years UKIP has still failed to get anyone of note elected to any seat in Britain!

The contest confirmed that Ukip under Farage is becoming a serious force, shearing off support from Cameron’s Tories but also claiming that two-thirds of its Eastleigh vote came from former Labour and Liberal Democrat supporters and previous non-voters.

Indeed Farage’s party is becoming a ‘serious force’ and for the first time will enter the general election able to destabilise seats in a few areas as never before but that must not be construed as a threat to the Tories across the board. Farage’s staff are the first to boast that they take votes from all parties and clearly this is true and in differing proportions in different areas – so as a threat to the Tories the Tories themse4lves are the greratest threat with the pucillanimity of the cuts and resultant failure to make good the damage done to Britain and to our economy of the corrupt, self serving unlucky 13 years of misrule by the economically illiterate Labour Party.

That much of the damage is done by membership of The EU is a message UKIP has failed to get across to the public at large and thus scaremongering over immigration and overt support of racism has been the stock in trade of Farage’s cult.

A party supposedly comprised of “cranks, gadflies and extremists” – in the words of former Tory leader Michael Howard – fielded an articulate healthcare specialist, Diane James, as its candidate. James came second to the Lib Dems with 28 per cent of the vote; most agreed that if the campaign had lasted another week she would have won.

It is also noted that Diane James for all the mystery of her background, has clearly been UKIP’s best candidate in any election to date and this was reflected in the vote! Many have even said that she did far better than could have been expected had Farage stood in Eastleigh and I feel they may well be right.

Yet others have said that if only Diane James had been elected there would be just cause to oust Farage as the ostensible leader of UKIP and give her5 the job, that would of course be dependent on her having the force of character to confine Farage to the job of party performer for the media and other areas of showmanship at which he is so good.

Nigel Farage celebrates with Ukip candidate Diane James at the Eastleigh by-election, February 28; James beat the Tories to take second place©GettyCelebrating with Ukip candidate Diane James at the Eastleigh by-election, February 28; James beat the Tories to take second place

It is worth noting that Diane James was not just second beating the Tories and Labour but was a close second to The LibDims who although they won saw their majority cut to ribbons in one of their safest seats.

“We will take this tremor in Eastleigh and turn it into a national earthquake,” says Farage (it rhymes with “barrage”) in his clipped, military tones. But already his party has shaken the political establishment and forced Cameron’s Conservatives – fearing a fatal schism on the political right – to start engaging Ukip on its chosen battleground: Europe and immigration.

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The 48-year-old man pulling the strings has other things on his mind when we meet in an Italian café in Westminster. Heavy bags under his eyes, he is drained by a schedule that takes him between “that dump” Brussels (where he works as an MEP) and Britain, where he lives in the Olde England Kentish village of Downe.

“I caught up with the post at midnight last night,” he says. “Fines for this, fines for that. If I don’t do my tax return they’re going to put me in jail.” Such is Farage’s dominance of his party (no other Ukip member comes close to his profile) he is in heavy demand from media across Europe. “On the day of Cameron’s Europe speech I did 16 hours of broadcasts,” he says. Campbell Bannerman – who left Ukip to become a Tory MEP – says Farage recognises he has become “a cult”.

The great drawback of forming such a cult is that it is totally dependent on a single man and if Farage were bought off with a deal or offer from the Tories one could expect UKIP to collapse – it is this great ineptitude in terms of leadership and the fear of delegation that leaves Farage over stretched and UKIP with only one recognisable individual and spokesman!

Nigel Farage being pulled out of a plane wreckage in May 2010©INS News Agency LtdFarage in the wreckage

“There’s no escape … no escape,” Farage says. “I’m generally a pretty ebullient, optimistic person. I try to enjoy life, but are there just little times when you think, ahhh? Of course there are. No human being can work the number of hours I do a week and not have the odd moment like that.”

Nigel Paul Farage was born in Kent in 1964, one of two sons of a colourful and hard-drinking City stockbroker. Guy Justus Oscar Farage’s propensity to mix work with pleasure was clearly influential on the young Nigel, who followed his father into the City as a highly remunerated commodities trader. (Andrew, Farage’s younger brother, also headed to the City, where he still works as a broker on the London Metal Exchange.)

Guy, who became an alcoholic, divorced his wife Barbara when Nigel was five. But Farage acknowledges his father’s influence: like Guy – “the best-dressed man in the stock exchange at the time” – Nigel bears the demeanour and attire of a City gent before the barbarians were allowed in after the 1986 “Big Bang” reforms.

Nigel Farage receives treatment after a plane crash in 2010©INS News Agency LtdFarage after his airplane accident, May 6 2010

The sense of nostalgia for a bygone age was summed up by the story of when Guy – who kicked the bottle in his mid-thirties – was in the lift with Sir Nicholas Goodison, chairman of the London Stock Exchange, at the time of Big Bang and lamented, “You’ve ruined the best gentleman’s club in the world.”

In spite of his father, Farage enjoys a pint, using his local, the George & Dragon, as a testing ground for Ukip policies: “In my village pub they are totally against,” he says of Cameron’s plan to legalise gay marriage. To complete the anti-politician image, Farage is a heavy consumer of Rothmans cigarettes and enjoys sea-fishing and country sports. A Barbour-clad Farage loves cricket and used to be seen enjoying hare coursing – until it was banned in 2005. In short, he is a young-ish fogey: most people are surprised to learn he is still in his forties.

Farage is also a walking health-insurance nightmare. After leaving the prestigious Dulwich College in south London – alma mater of P.G. Wodehouse – and embarking on his City career he was knocked down by a car, aged 21, on his way home from a pub argument about UK-Irish relations – heavily lubricated by Irish whiskey and English ale.

Lucky to survive, he was only just emerging from a year in half-plaster when he was diagnosed with testicular cancer. Farage has expressed his “gratitude to evolution” for providing him with a spare: he has gone on to father four children in the course of two marriages. Given his track record, it was perhaps no surprise to see him staggering out of a crashed plane.

Traders at the London Stock Exchange in 1984©GettyTraders at the London Stock Exchange in 1984; Farage followed his father into the City before taking up politics

In spite of his success in the “trench warfare” of commodities trading – a lifestyle punctuated by spread betting and drinking – by the early 1990s Farage was becoming increasingly political. He feared that the traditional British way of life he cherished was in some way under threat from a European project whose ambitions were expanding rapidly.

His opposition to the EU crystallised as Britain dabbled with what he regarded as the lunacy of the Exchange Rate Mechanism – the precursor to the euro. The Maastricht treaty of 1992, which paved the way for a much closer union and the creation of the single currency, radicalised him.

But Farage was very different from most of the other founder members of Ukip in the early 1990s. He was young for a start and had an internationalist outlook. After divorcing Clare Hayes in 1997 (the couple had two boys, Sam and Tom) Farage married a German government bond broker, Kirsten Mehr, with whom he has two girls, Victoria and Isabelle. He had an agency business in Milan and worked for two French companies. By contrast, his new colleagues had personal memories of when a real military threat came from across the Channel: “You could always tell a Ukip meeting by the number of Bomber Command ties,” he says.

Interestingly Kirsten was working for Damian Hockney, in his office, when Farage met her I believe, where she was far from being a German Bond Broker as Hockney owned a hairdressing magazine!

Articulate and media-savvy – Farage likes to hold press briefings in pubs – he quickly rose through the party. By 1999 he was an MEP and in 2006 he was elected party leader. Although he briefly quit as Ukip leader in 2009 to contest the Buckingham seat – he said he was fed up with being “head cook and bottle washer” – he was back a year later. A remarkable renaissance was now under way.

Thast Farage defined himself as ‘head cook and bottle washer’ is a reflection on his ineptitude as a leader and his inability, or is it trust, that leads him to fear delegation!

The crisis in the eurozone fuelled Ukip’s rise, as did a sense that Britain lost control of its borders in the past decade when hundreds of thousands of Poles and Lithuanians came to the UK. But polling suggests that Farage is primarily surfing a wave of hostility towards all mainstream politicians: Ukip has become Britain’s protest party of choice.

Sadly this is all too true and thus UKIP as a party has a very questionable future as its dependence on one man makes it fragile particularly in its cult nature and people do not, it seems, vote for UKIP anymore as a Political Party or even as an anti EU membership party but merely as an accrual point for the protest votes.

The most dramatic consequence of Ukip’s growing popularity was Cameron’s decision in January to offer a British referendum on EU membership in 2017, if he wins the next election. The move was intended to halt the Farage surge, but for now at least it seems to have had the opposite effect. “They’re coming to play on our pitch now,” Farage says.

This does rather read as a Farage cult PR handout as in fact neither Farage nor UKIP had anything to do with the Westminster debate on EU membership nor the issue of a Referendum.

Farage failed the EUroSceptic movement pronouncing that he did not wish to destabilise the Tories during the EU Constitution efforts that were subsequently enacted as The Lisbon Treaty!

Farage’s fan club took absolutely no action in opposing the new and ever more binding EU Treaty! Nor had Farage or UKIP taken any action to promote a referendum nor a debate in The UK that was almost solely down to Nikki Sinclaire an Independent MEP forced out of Farage’s UKIP based on gender, lies about her promoted by Farage and his stooges and her refusal to compromise her integrity in support of overt racism, anti homosexuality and convicted anti Jewish fellows of Farage’s party in the EU.

In Eastleigh, Farage proved he could combine his anti-EU message with a more visceral campaign against mass immigration. He claims that Europe’s free movement rules will lead to a mass influx of Romanian and Bulgarian migrants next year when travel restrictions are lifted.

The ability to govern people is as Thomas Jefferson made clear ‘dependent on fear’ and was it not Benjamin Franklin who taught the Labour Party their only political wisdon that ‘No people will elect a government that raises taxes once they realise they can vote for free handouts’ or some such ;-(

That Farage has led his party down the populist route of gaining votes through the shibboleth of fear is to have demeaned and debase the very noble aim of Leave-The-EU espoused by EUroSceptics.

Ukip has other radical – some would say ludicrously unaffordable – policies to cut taxes and increase spending on the police, prisons and army, but the public is barely aware of them: Europe and immigration are Ukip’s greatest hits. Farage makes immigration sound like it is the most pressing issue facing Britain and the message is resonating.

One can relatively safely show that the vote for Farage’s party in Eastleigh was almost totally dependent on the fear of immigration which they promoted. Indeed that their candidate, though standing as a UKIP ppc, is actually an Independent Councillor involved with an adviser and lobbyist of The EU!

“I moved out of Southampton because you had a job to hear English being spoken,” says Stuart Wellstead, a handyman living in a cul-de-sac in the Eastleigh suburbs. “I can’t understand why we have an open-door policy when so many of our own are unemployed.”

Cameron and Labour’s Ed Miliband have inexorably been drawn on to policy terrain where Farage knows he is invincible: while mainstream politicians cannot rip up Europe’s commitment to the free movement of workers, the Ukip boss can offer voters like Wellstead the simple expedient of leaving the EU altogether.

Many of the so called policies of the Farage message are not only uncosted but unworkable as is the childish notion that we could pass a law in our UK Parliament to Leave-The-EU and just quit. It is only from the security of knowledge that one will not be elected to enact such populism that such foolish concepts can be put forward as facts or even policies and promises.

It is only recently, it seems, that UKIP has even heard of Article #50 and the mechanism to which we have signed under international law for the concept of Leave-The-EU!

After Eastleigh, Cameron insisted he would not desert the centre ground, but his team spent the next few days talking about Britain pulling out of the European Convention on Human Rights and taking measures to stop “benefit tourism” by Romanian and Bulgarian migrants.

Cameron’s team may ‘talk’ all they want but membership of The ECHR is enshrined in law as a constituent part of The EU’s Lisbon Treaty and thus can not be withdrawn from as with the status of EU citizens from Romania & Bulgaria or anywhere else.

It has been made abundantly clear to Cameron & his propagandists that The EU is not a pick and mix menu for all of young George EUstace’s protestations or the posturing of some on Cameron’s front bench!

“They’re all at sea,” Farage says as he surveys the post-election fallout. “They are just being blown around by the wind. They’re more split than they’ve ever been and the problem is that nobody in his party believes Cameron any more.”

It is hardly surprising no one believes Cameron any more with such light weight advisers as George EUstace and the vacillation from outspoken opposition to EU membership of William Hague to his present position supporting The EU and some of the most ridiculous and divisive policies as the idiotic attack on Libya and now Mali in a so called ‘Arab Spring’ that has proved so catastrophic and ill informed speading the idiocy of US bellicose foreign policy in potential flash point or flames from Pakistan though Africa in a swathe of misery and war in almost every country on route and those it has so far missed live in teetering fear!

One Tory minister admits Ukip is already having a profound effect on British politics without having a single seat in the Commons. “It’s like the Green party in the 1990s – they ended up greening all the major parties and Ukip could have the same effect on issues like Europe and immigration.” Critics would say that Farage’s influence is malign and mean-spirited; he says he is only speaking up for the people.

Populism as a cult is always deeply questionable and destabilising and seemingly has so very much more influence from the more vile aspects of Nationalism than the laudable values of Patriotism, where so very many do not understand the differentiation!

The arrival of Ukip in 1999 at the European parliament was a culture shock to say the least. Ukip brought a penchant for banners, occasional public protests and rare flashes of passion to the sterile European parliament hemicycle. When Tony Blair came to the parliament in Brussels, Farage and his Ukip colleagues taunted him from their seats, festooned with Union Jack flags. The anger flashed across Blair’s eyes: “This is 2005, not 1945. We are not fighting each other any more.”

It was however Daniel Hannan’s erudite speech, excoriating Labour & its crass incompetence,  that resonated both across the peoples of EUrope and those in America who have discovered where Europe is!

Farage says a defining moment for him came in 2005. He was drinking champagne in the Brussels press bar to celebrate the Dutch rejecting the EU constitution in a referendum when a German MEP came by and said, “You may have your little celebration tonight but we have 50 different ways to win.” I thought, ‘My God, these people are frightening, they’re fanatical.’”

Though I would incline to the belief that Farage’s more notable Damascine moment was his rejection by the short lived Declan Ganley and the realisation that even when the peoples of France voted against The EU Constitution it made not a wit of difference as the unelected bureaucrats of The EU in complete contempt for democracy or the peoples of The EU merely renamed the document and forced it into being aided by a good measure of corrupt politicians and yet more it had bribed or were too stupid to understand they were being manipulated!

It was at this stage, if my memory serves me right, that Farage increasingly moved from a position of Leave-The-EU towards a policy of appeasment and seeking to reform The EU whilst UKIP invented a series of policies, seemingly left over in David Bannerman’s briefcase from when he betrayed the Tories – a pretence to be a fully fledged political party rather than a campaigning Party with an aim other than self advancement!

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In 2009 Britain returned 13 Ukip MEPs – the party finished second – and Farage became the leader in Brussels of a group of rightwing European parties which shared his desire to throw sand in the wheels of the EU. But with increased success came increased scrutiny of Farage; was he the jolly frontman for a movement with a less savoury side?

Let us not forget that the largest group in Farage’s odious Pan EU EFD political Group are the Italian Lega Nord who are strong advocates of membership of The EU and reformists espousing racial hatred, violence and extremism!

Ukip’s associates: in their own words

Mario Borghezio

Mario Borghezio of Italy’s Northern League, a Ukip ally in Europe

Admires some of mass-murderer Anders Breivik’s ‘excellent’ ideas

 

Ján Slota

Ján Slota, leader of Ukip’s Slovak allies in Europe

Suggested dealing with Slovakia’s Roma with a ‘long whip in a small yard’

 

Godfrey Bloom

Godfrey Bloom, Ukip MEP

‘No employer with a brain would employ a young, single, free woman’

Ukip describes itself as a “democratic libertarian party”

Yet UKIP leadership show a singular misunderstanding of the meaning of Libertarian being inclined, it would seem, mor to the concept of libertine!

opposed to discrimination of any kind,

Yet Farage, Bloom & UKIP themselves have been found guilty of discrimination by a British Court of Law and Bloom has been censured and/or fined for his anti homosexual stance and anti German racism by The EU Parliament!

but it is part of the Europe of Freedom and Democracy group that includes the Italian Northern League, some of whose members have expressed sympathy with the extreme racist views of Norwegian mass-murderer Anders Breivik.

The Northern League’s Mario Borghezio declared in a radio interview that Breivik had “excellent” ideas, remarks which Farage condemned.

To condemn is somewhat meaningless from a so called leader, when he took absolutely zero action – just lip service to populism that totally betrayed the principles of almost all UKIP members!

Meanwhile Ján Slota, leader of the Slovak National Party, Ukip’s Slovak allies, has railed against his country’s Hungarian minority as a “tumour” and suggested dealing with Roma with a “long whip in a small yard”.

Farage rejects forcefully any suggestion his party is racist and points out that it does not allow any former BNP members to join (a proscription that is not applied by other mainstream British parties). This ban is on one level a defensive measure: Ukip fears that the shambolic BNP will try to reassemble under the Ukip banner through a policy of entryism.

Again populism of its lowest form and clearly for gain even inventing groups to hate who travel on the same Leave-The-EU track which UKIP members follow whilst UKIP leadership seem to have ameliorated their position as reformists for expediency and income!

Ukip’s members are at times famously politically incorrect, some would say misogynist. Ukip MEP Godfrey Bloom once quipped that “no employer with a brain in the right place would employ a young, single, free woman”, while Marta Andreasen (the party’s only woman MEP) last month defected to the Tories claiming Farage was “an anti-woman Stalinist dictator”.

Let us not forget UKIP’s female vanguard was headed up by Nikki Sinclaire MEP who had quit UKIP over its support of racism, dishonesty and corruption whilst Marta Andreasen was still happily wallowing in the gains she had made by supporting Nigel Farage and as his placement!

Having failed to get a place in the Tories and various other parties Andreasen was eventually manipulated into position as a UKIP MEP by Farage!

Farage chuckles at the idea that he does not like women. In 2006 he drunkenly suspended his hostility to the EU’s open borders policy to accept an invitation for a late-night drink from a “sleek and seductive” 25-year-old Latvian called Lita.

Lita told the News of the World that Farage was something of a stud and that they had had sex seven times before he fell asleep, “snoring like a horse”. Farage, in his memoirs, Flying Free, claims he was too drunk to perform, although he concedes the snoring. “Lita wasn’t screwed. I was.” He was in “fearful trouble” with Kirsten, but the master of unlikely escapes survived with his marriage intact.

This incident was probably THE greatest display of just how fragile is leadership of a cult and how little one can trust ones associates protestations of friendship in politics.

Not one single solitary member of Farage’s clique nor member of his party stepped forward to give one iota of support to him when he was exposed as consorting with this prostitute, who sold her story to the media.

I well recall the incident as I was THE ONLY individual who stepped forward in his defence and published a detailed rebuttal of the claims of the whore who had clearly invented the lurid details selling her body & reputation for a sum of around £15K.

One can only commiserate with Kirsten who has stood by him in this instance and others!

Polling shows Ukip’s abrasive message – anti-immigration, anti-Europe, anti-wind farms – appeals more to men than to women, but Farage angrily rejects suggestions that his party is an expression of the male midlife crisis: a party yearning for the past and railing against uncontrollable external forces.

For many UKIP is clearly based upon a fear of change viewing the past with rose tinted glasses. Some vote for UKIP out of xenophobia but it is my belief that very few of the votes for UKIP are actually for UKIP and rather using UKIP to register a protest against the two main parties that have formed our government in Britain in one form or another as the ‘establishment’ parties.

The selection of Diane James as Ukip’s candidate in Eastleigh is hailed by Farage as evidence that the party is broadening its base, and Farage describes as “moronic” the portrayal of his party as a bunch of be-blazered men drinking in the 19th hole. “Actually we’re picking up quite a lot of support from cool, trendy youngsters, who view Europe as an anachronism,” he says.

UKIP has failed to show the benefits of leaving the EU having banged on for so very long showing all the evils of tyhe EU. UKIP has in fact failed to convince and explain just how arcane is the concept of forming a super state behemoth in a global and increasingly agile world!

The party has seen questions raised about its funding arrangements. Some of his MEPs have run into trouble for expenses irregularities: indeed, a lot of Ukip’s money comes from the legitimate expenses payable to its dozen MEPs. Farage said in 2009 he reckoned he had received “pushing £2m” from the taxpayer over the previous decade. Farage also runs an office in London from the headquarters of the European Commission – ironically Margaret Thatcher’s former HQ in Smith Square – joking that he “takes the devil’s money to do the Lord’s work”.

Ukip was almost ruined after it received a £367,000 “impermissible” donation from former bookmaker Alan Bown – “honest Al” as Farage calls him – after it transpired that he was not on the electoral register when he handed over the cash. Only an appeal to the Supreme Court in 2010 spared the party from having to pay the money back.

The most damaging aspect of this incident was not the possibility of refund and the need to have the money re-donated via legal channels, a process UKIP had historically used when it was found a donor was a resident of the West Indies!

The damaging aspect for UKIP were, in my opinion, the costs UKIP incurred and the exposure of their policy of misleading British authorities and clear contempt for British laws and British Courts.

The party received donations of £314,000 last year from 66 sources – roughly 2 per cent of the money donated to Cameron’s Conservatives – including from Lord Pearson, a former Ukip leader and insurance man.

Stuart Wheeler, founder of the spread betting company IG Index, has also bankrolled the party. It has just nine staff in its central operation.

Ukip’s recent success – it is regularly scoring 10 per cent in national opinion polls – has brought new pressure to bear on Farage. A party that attracted eccentrics and the politically incorrect is now starting to lay down the law to those who bring the party into disrepute.

Let us not forget that consistently Farage’s UKIP do not reflect in votes the results that are attributed to the party by polls!

Nigel Farage speaking in France in 2012©AFPSpeaking in France last year.
On his home turf, the ‘media-savvy’ Farage likes to hold press briefings in pubs

Andreasen, who quit Ukip in a dispute over candidate selection, claims Farage is “desperate to control things” and surrounds himself with yes men, adding: “Either he gets what he wants or you’re out.” Farage has shrugged off the attacks, noting that Andreasen, a former EU chief accountant, has made a habit of acrimonious departures from various organisations.

Let us not forget it was the contol over candidate selection practiced by Farage that had gained Andreasen her position as an MEP in thwe first place! The ethics of exploiting corruption to one’s advantage yet renouncing it when it was likely to go against one must be considered a reprehensible lack of ethics, which is unsurprising from the dishonest and self serving Andreasen.

The party has acted to remove a local Ukip chairman for waging “a war against homosexuals” and, more recently, the leader of the party’s youth wing for saying he backed gay marriage and wanted to legalise drugs in breach of party policy. As it grows, the party’s constitutional commitment to “libertarianism” seems to be waning.

For a party claiming to be Libertarian one must question the move to authoritarian centralised power in one man’s hands.

“I don’t want us all to agree,” says Farage. “But here’s my problem: on the one hand I want us to take a traditional, liberal approach to politics and debate where we do feel free to say what we think, but on the other I can’t have people bringing the whole thing into disrepute.”

Double standards seem to be the order of the day with the dishonesty and criminal behaviour of such as Mick McGough or the verdict of guilty leading to the enforced repayment of over £30,000 purloined from the public purse by Derek Clark or the odious behaviour of Godfrey Bloom and I quote from an entry of today on UKIP controlled Forum where lies promoted by UKIP supporters are all too frequently endorsed  whilst the truth is challenged and those who provide it are censured or abused if presenting facts that expose corruption within UKIP!

QUOTE one extraxt from one of the longer standing UKIP members, a past branch chairman of some standing:

Mr Pain says that the charges against Mr Ellwood were disciplinary ones, and it were those which led to his dismissal. Quite ludicrous. Mr Ramsome chose to name UKIP in a drink-drive matter which had nothing whatever to do with his UKIP work. No disciplinary procedures followed. Mr Bloom was banned from a Brussels hotel for urinating in the foyers plant pot. The same gentleman’s protestations about disappointing service in a brothel was, likewise, not deemed a disciplinary matter. When did misconduct ever result in disciplinary action for any senior or professiojnal member? Mr Ellwood’s findings which showed about ninety percent of bank statement deposits over a three year period, had been converted into cash. It was this which prompted immediate action against him. All else is sheer sophistry.

Campbell Bannerman says that as Ukip becomes more like other political parties, Farage will struggle because “he doesn’t like policy, he doesn’t like detail”. But Farage rejects the idea that he is some kind of dictator. “I wish I was more of one really,” he says. “I don’t think I’m as tough as I ought to be.”

David Bannerman is a poor source when considering detail, facts or integrity as he has so often sought to pass himself off as some sort of nephew of a British PM from before WWI! Though in this instance I agree his analysis!

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Farage acknowledges that the party is experiencing growing pains. He says there is a “lot of catching up to do” as Ukip tries to match its threadbare central organisation with its burgeoning national support, but says he has talented people around him – like Stuart Wheeler and Steve Crowther, the party chairman – to handle the day-to-day running of the party. He focuses on the “politics, media and helping with fundraising”.

To date Crowther would seem to be nothing more than a Farage placement puppet of little political ability, exp[erience or merit and clearly has introduced not one iota of professionalism of note.
Stuart Wheeler on the other hand has been the antithesis of professional in ethical terms – displaying a total, if sensible, lack of trust in UKIP’s, structure as in return for his support he insisted on being Treasurer! A position he took on with no concept of responsibility or ethics as he refused to accept the responsibilities of any treasurer of erthical stance stating he refused to consider the clear lack of integrity of the party he took over!

Just where are the talented people Farage speaks of for certainly there are no signs of independent competence and Farage controls the party from the center even having enacted diktat that permits only himself to select and control staff placement and the listings for candidates.

There are certainly plenty of potential problems ahead if Ukip continues to grow, but those problems are for the future. For David Cameron and Britain’s other mainstream politicians, Farage poses a clear and present danger.

Surely the facts show that the influence is directionless and dependent on just one man – surely an intolerably fragile state for any situation and hardly a model worthy of being called a party of consequence.

The indespensible man is, in this case, UKIP’s only media performer, spokesman or individual of consequence – hardly a model worth investing in in any commercial terms and less so in terms of reliability for these United Kingdoms!

Nigel Farage with Sophie Raworth on 'The Andrew Marr Show', March 3With Sophie Raworth on The Andrew Marr Show, March 3

The challenge is to work out what the danger is. Pollsters analysing Ukip’s surge from 3.5 per cent in Eastleigh in 2010 to 28 per cent this month – or indeed its national ascendancy – tend to agree on one thing: it has relatively little to do with the public’s hostility to Europe, an issue which never makes the top 10 of their daily concerns.

UKIP has patently failed to educate the British public or make a clear case to Leave-The-EU and as every commentator seems to agree UKIP does not gain votes based on a stance of Leave-The-EU or even on its own proclaimed policies but rather as the dustbin of the protest votes.

Lord Ashcroft, the Conservative business tycoon and pollster, has urged Cameron to keep calm and not pander to the Farage agenda. He argues that voters in Eastleigh know the difference between a by-election protest and the choice of a government in a general election.

Ashcroft expects Ukip to fade in the 2015 poll (when Britain’s first-past-the-post voting system discriminates against smaller parties), just as it did in the 2005 and 2010 elections.

There is every reason to expect Lord Ashcrodt is right as track record has shown since UKIP’s showing in real domestic elections has to date proved consistently risible as it tries to forge ahe4ad as a one man band centrally controlled with little or no meaningful infrastructure or even management ability. Just look at the calliber of UKIP’s NEC!

In an extensive piece of research, Ashcroft says Farage and his party appeal because of their general outlook. “Certainly, those who are attracted to Ukip are more preoccupied than most with immigration, and will occasionally complain about Britain’s contribution to the EU or the international aid budget,” he wrote.

Clearly he is right and UKIP has lost focus, assuming it ever really had any!

“But these are often part of a greater dissatisfaction with the way they see things going in Britain: schools, they say, can’t hold Nativity plays or harvest festivals any more; you can’t fly a flag of St George any more; you can’t call Christmas Christmas any more; you won’t be promoted in the police force unless you’re from a minority; you can’t wear an England shirt on the bus; you won’t get social housing unless you’re an immigrant; you can’t speak up about these things because you’ll be called a racist; you can’t even smack your children.”

Few of which are factually accurate  but cleverly exagerate, generalise and play on prejudice and fear – To get votes!!!!

Ashcroft concluded after Eastleigh that Cameron could best tackle Farage’s insurgency by proving that a mainstream Tory government could improve the quality of people’s day-to-day lives. “Our task is not to become more like Ukip, the party of easy answers, but to be the party of government that people want to vote for.”

One is tempted to say ‘No sh*t Sherlock’ but isn’t that what Governments are charged to do in the execution of their duty yet more and more we see politicians acting in their personal interests in pursuit of nothing more than power or in some cases merely gain!

Cameron’s problem is that many Tory MPs can see their chances of election victory in 2015 disappearing and are pushing him to the right – partly for self-serving reasons – to try to neutralise the Ukip threat.

Tory and Labour nerves could be shredded come next year if – as Farage hopes – Ukip win the 2014 European elections, only a year before the next general election. Many at Westminster now believe it is only a matter of time before Labour and the Liberal Democrats are forced to match Cameron’s promise of an EU referendum.

The result of Nikki Sinclaire’s Team effort which has already delivered 250,000 valid signatures to the UK Parliament, in her petition to hold a free, fair and informed referendum on an In / Out basis!

Won’t that make Ukip irrelevant? Farage says that successive hardline Tory leaders have promised to get tough on Europe and each time he has been told his party would be obliterated. “I’ve heard this before,” he says. “Do I trust Cameron? No.”

Does anyone in the face of his Government’s abject failure to implement the swinging cuts that stand any chance or repairing the British economy and the damage done by 13 years of misrule and economic illiteracy of their predecessors!

In any event, Farage’s uncanny ability to articulate Britain’s 21st-century concerns suggests he will remain a big factor in the next election. Some compare him to Alex Salmond, the Scottish Nationalist leader, who has channelled patriotism and a desire to break free from the dominance of “the other”. Farage says he hopes he has some of Salmond’s ability to “speak a language that ordinary folk understand”.

Sadly it is all too apparent that Farage has those same skills and the matching ineptitude in broadening the message beyond dependence on one man and with little or no conscience or competence in creating long term survival of the concept or the party without their presence!

After Eastleigh some Tory MPs believed they had found a chink in Farage’s bulletproof political persona. If Farage had stood, they claimed, he might well have won the seat. “Farage bottled it,” says George Eustice, a Tory MP. Andreasen claims he has grown to love the life in Brussels he professes to despise and does not really want to win a seat at Westminster.

I believe this is over simplistic and Farage is increasingly in a position where he can not afford Westminster exposure on a daily basis nor the loss of income he would experience – possibly realising that his stridency and showmanship may well shine on the EU stage but loses support in domestic elections where more substance is required!

Farage is getting used to the barbs but sounds like he is digging in for the long haul. Can Ukip win seats in the House of Commons? “It’s not guaranteed, because we’ve got a hell of a long way to go. And we’re going to need some senior figures to come and help us do that.”

Let us face facts – UKIP has never come even close to winning a seat in a Domestic General Election where people are inclined to both caution and habit.

But you can never be sure with Farage. After his surprise resignation as Ukip leader in 2009, he was persuaded only with some reluctance to come back to the top job after his brush with death at Hinton-in-the-Hedges.

“If I was honest, on a personal level, all of this has come at a massive sacrifice,” he says, staring into his Italian coffee. “The financial sacrifice has been huge. Many of my colleagues from the late 1980s are now extremely rich people and I don’t mean comfortably off, I mean extremely rich people.”

Many of Farage’s colleagues in the City from the late 1980s are also bankrupt, now in prison or spent in mental and medical terms. Thaty Farage might have progressed to achievement or even wealth seems unlikely based on his actual results in The City whether before he was fired by his French employers or after.

The long string of ‘closed’ companies that follow his track record is worthy of note in this context!

He pauses. “If I’d concentrated on business I would have been a very wealthy man. Do I mind that? No, I chose it. But I think the sacrifice of time, the complete lack of time for family and any sense of normality, that is a sacrifice. I’m not whingeing because I chose it, but it gets a bit wearing. And I did walk away from it once, remember.”

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I trust MY thoughts and analysis will lead to others seeking to analyse the facts and perhaps realise that there is every reason to postulate that Farage has in fact sown the seeds for the destruction of UKIP and possibly even set back the possibility to Leave-The-EU in his personal ambition and determination to control.

It is however true, in my opinion, that without Farage UKIP may well have just remained an irrelevant also ran rival to The BNP, the Monster Raving Loonies and The EDL all on the same Nationalistic trail with little real thought of Patriotism!

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Farage’s UKIP sure knows how to damage EUroScepticism

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/02/2013

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Is UKIP really a ‘Nigel Farage dictatorship’ rife with sexism?

by Mary Honeyball

11 February 2013

UKIP seems to be a party filled with anti-women sentient – it is a one man band and it is all about Nigel Farage, or so it certainly seems, claims Labour Party MEP “A woman’s place is cleaning behind the fridge.” Well that’s what they seem to believe in UKIP. Indeed, in 2004 UKIP MEP Godfrey Bloom said just this and the events which unfolded last week shows little has changed in the intervening years since Bloom made such remarks.

It would be laughable if it was not so damaging, offensive and humiliating for those on the receiving end. So it is hardly a surprise to learn that the party’s only female MEP might have suffered alleged discrimination from within the party. But it was a surprise to see Marta Andreasen MEP launch a searing attack on the leader of the party Nigel ‘too much air time’ Farage.

She has said of Farage: “He doesn’t try to involve intelligent professional women in positions of responsibility in the party. He thinks women should be in the kitchen or in the bedroom.” Andreasen continued by telling the BBC (to view the article CLICK HERE) that she had been openly criticised by her party leader and other MEPs, claiming that this amounted to bullying.

“I’ve been bullied, in private situations, for decisions I have made by Nigel,” she said. “I have been accused of being disloyal, breaching confidence and breaching my contract with the party. There’s an attitude that either you keep silent about everything that’s been going on in the party or suffer the consequences.” Andreasen said she believed Farage – who was re-elected as leader in 2010 after standing down a year earlier to contest a Westminster seat – “did not like women” although this is purely her opinion and allegation.

I have appeared alongside Andreasen before on the BBC’s Newsnight programme and her views were some of the most thoughtful that I have seen come out of UKIP. We should give weight to what she says because what she is demonstrating is that UKIP seems to be a party filled with anti-women sentient. It is a one man band and it is all about Farage, or so it certainly seems.

Andreasen who, represents South East England in the European Parliament, has said she will not stand again. Still, this is a brave thing to do – to reveal a bullying culture at the highest level of the party while she is still in office and to do it so publically is courageous. She also claims in an interview with LondonlovesBusiness.com that Farage runs his party like some kind of dictatorship:

“Under his leadership – and I have questioned his leadership obviously a number of times – the party has become a dictatorship,” she said. “This is a Stalinist way of operating and he doesn’t care about the membership or the grassroots.”

We also should not forget former UKIP MEP Nikki Sinclaire – a lesbian, who won a sex discrimination case against her former colleagues on a default judgement at Exeter Employment Tribunal. This came after UKIP failed to lodge a defence. Sinclaire alleged that UKIP MEP Godfrey Bloom had called her a “queer”. We can only draw our own conclusions from all of this..

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The Sickening Hypocriscy of UKIP’s Claims!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 31/01/2013

The Sickening Hypocricy of UKIP’s Claims!
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Mea Culpa
I apologise for my poor posting record recently but have spent almost all of the time from 09-Jan > 27-Jan in hospital.
Fortunately unrelated directly to my battle with cancer since Nov-1998, which at the moment seems won, as my full body CT Scan last Thursday was showing absolutely no sign of cancer for the first time in 14 years.
Details, for those seeking the encouragement of the story of my survival against horrendous odds, will be on my health blog shortly.
I shall be heavily plagiarising the works of others (with permission, where required) to infill such gaps as seem apposite over the next few days – including Team Junius.
Thanks for the many messages of get well and the incredible support given to Lee by friends whilst I was in hospital.

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The Sickening Hypocriscy of UKIP’s Claims of having any part in achieving a Referendum!

UKIP has been a spectacular failure in domestic politics for lack of leadership of any competence & lack of visible gravitas, as they function as a One Man Band in utterly unprofessional style for the gain of a small clique feeding from the troughs on the EU gravy train!

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The Prime Minister’s Speech Has Made Today a Victory for Ukip

Posted: 23/01/2013 10:58

Nigel Farage’s blog spin in Huffington Post:

English: Nigel Farage.

 

The very fact that we are talking about the possibility of Britain leaving the European Union is Ukip’s biggest victory to date.

Even five years ago the thought of this issue being even discussed was an anathema and it is a great triumph for the tens of thousands of Ukip members and supporters that they have, through calm and passionate arguments, put it on the nation’s agenda.

Today we heard the skeleton of the ‘Yes’ side’s argument: how the prime minister will lead a Yes vote. It will be a campaign based on the 1970s ‘Common Market’ argument where we are bombarded with views on how essential the single market is to this country. Just as people thought they were voting on a trade deal back in 1975 they will be told that the EU is beneficial to this country and our economy.

But we know the clear benefits to being an independent, global country active on the world stage. We understand the opportunities from rediscovering our links with the Commonwealth and not only slashing the regulations to allow our own economy to flourish but engaging in free and fair trade with those countries being left reliant on aid by the protectionist measures of the EU and other trade blocs.

If David Cameron had promised a free and fair In/Out referendum during this parliament I would have cheered him. But we haven’t been offered that. Cast Iron Dave – who has a track record on denying the people the chance to have their say – will instead ask the public to forget recent history and trust a manifesto pledge.

It is clear the prime minister has been forced by public opinion to offer a referendum but it is also clear that the renegotiation he speaks of will be little more than lip service. EU leaders have been clear in their warnings to the prime minister that there cannot be an a la carte EU and recently proposed changes can be done without a new Treaty. This denies Mr Cameron the negotiating position he is insisting he has.

They might let us catch herrings in the Solent but not much more.

As far as Ukip goes, claims that there is no longer a need for us are nonsense. The genie is out of the bottle: the fight for our country’s liberty starts today and we are more relevant than ever.

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Greg L-WHi, UKIP dishonestly seek credit for Cameron’s decision to hold a referendum but looking at the facts they have done little towards achieving one.

UKIP did claim to hold a petition once but the £250K of tax payers money for the cause was never accounted for, seemingly trousered by Farage, Lott, Croucher and possibly others as no petition was ever presented!

They did nothing in Britain to oppose The EU’s new constitution which was rebranded The Lisbon Treaty!

They have done much to help The EU refusing to assist in campaigning for an In/Out Referendum, opposing the hugely successful efforts of Nikki Sinclaire and her team which gathered over 1/4M signatures for a debate in The House of Commons and a back bench rebellion, largely the force behind Cameron’s efforts to fudge a referendum. As it stands the referendum promised is of little validity and zero integrity.

The codicils to Cameron’s promise render his promise of no value as an IN/OUT referendum merely a sop to the majority in Britain who actively wish to Leave-The-EU.

It is only recently that UKIP have started to realise the route out of The EU is via article 50, until now they have attacked anyone who have endeavoured to lay out or even discuss the facts.

UKIP have done much harm to the EUroSceptic cause, with overt support of racism, anti homosexuality and undeniable bullying and lies in efforts to defame those telling the truth.

Regards,
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9 minutes ago (11:09)

Lets see how many MP’s you get at the next election. If it’s anything more than zero I’d be amazed.

14:25 on 28/01/2013

MESSAGE TO FARAGE : Your delusions are doomed for failure…..stop wasting your time, and ours.

12:53 on 29/01/2013

Message to jamcreton; You are off message !… The People want to leave Europe, They demand their say. Let them vote, freely and fairly…then we will see exactly who is “delusional”..

1 second ago (13:20)

Hi,

although the people want to Leave-The-EU unfortunately UKIP failed to take any part in gainiong a referendum and clearly have failed to command any gravitas in political terms, being dependent on one man as the performing monkey but bereft of any signs of an organ grinder.

At the moment it is clear that the vote would go against the interestys of the people as salaries and scams will come to play in a referendum and the people are woefully ill informed and are likely to succumb to the scare tacticst of the well funded pro EU lobby and scoundrels like Mandelson, Branson and many more act6ing in personal self interest.

A referendum to Leave-The-EU would be lost based on the lies, spin, propaganda and self interest of political scoundrels and their parasites.

The NO Campaign has a long way to go!

Be minded of Frederic Bastiat’s wise caveat:
“The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skilfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended “.

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Dr. Richard North: “I come to bury UKIP, not to praise it”

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EU politics: “I come to bury UKIP, not to praise it”

Thursday 20 December 2012

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If we are to believe the Daily Mail and, to some extent, the The Daily Telegraph, David Cameron has been so spooked by the apparent rise in support for UKIP that he is now determined to “fight the 2015 general election as an anti-Europe party”.

To loud banging of desks, he told the 1922 Committee last night that the party had to get “the big calls right” and there was no bigger call than the decision the party had to make on Europe.

Thus, records the Telegraph, he told his MPs, “I want you all to be absolutely clear – we will go into the next election with a clear Eurosceptic position. It will clearly be in tune with the British people, we will be the ones offering the British people a genuine change and a genuine choice”.

What Cameron then said was that he wanted to “grab the opportunity” to win a “clear mandate” at the next election to reshape Britain’s relationship with Europe – so marking the transition from a man who, when he first became Tory leader, told his party to stop “banging on about Europe”.

Predictably, comments (where they are allowed) are hostile, with UKIPites to the fore, questioning Mr Cameron’s good faith. The failure to deliver on the “cast iron” promise of a referendum on Lisbon runs deep, and has gravely damaged his credibility.

However before UKIP crows too much, the game plan is very much as predicted, and can hardly have been shaped by recent events. On this blog, we have consistently maintained that Mr Cameron would hold off any action on the EU until after the election, and that we would see a promise of a referendum as a means of “parking” the issue until the election was over.

So far, this is exactly what we are seeing – despite the belief in some quarters that we would see a referendum before the election. That was never going to happen. And, while Mr Cameron might at this stage be pledging to fight the election on “Europe”, we can be pretty sure that he will use whatever pledge he makes to neutralise the issue for the duration of the election campaign.

What is emerging more clearly, though, is that Cameron is under huge pressure to offer an “out” option in any referendum promise. All the indications are that he is still going for a renegotiation, although he cannot have been cheered by Hollande’s responses at the last European Council.

The confused state, therefore, probably reflects the confusion that reins in Downing Street and, indeed, in Mr Cameron’s own mind. The best understanding of the state of the art suggests that we can get no sense of what is going to happen because Mr Cameron has not himself made up his mind as to what he is going to do.

Nevertheless, the prime minister has at least committed himself to delivering his “Big Speech” on the EU by mid-January. After the successive delays, he would find it very hard to resile on that, and further delay would be damaging. Reading the runes, with Cameron telling us that the Conservative Party will be offering the British people “a genuine change and a genuine choice”, he is going to have to come up with something very convincing to still the growing criticism of his inertia.

While the pundit are focusing on UKIP, though, there are some indications that strategists are looking beyond the superficial nostrums offered by the Mail. Whatever the polls might currently say, the fact is that UKIP has only been able to draw on an average three percent of the electorate over the last twelve by-elections.

Compared with that, we are facing the prospect of thirty percent of the electorate going AWOL at the next general election. Pulling in a proportion of that cohort could outnumber the dissidents and bury UKIP. After all, if Cameron does genuinely offer us a referendum with an “out” option, would it make sense to keep the Conservatives out of office?

Richard North 20/12/2012.

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Some Thoughts & reports on ‘We Demand A Referendum’

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You will find the poll commissioned by ‘We Demand A Referendum’ campaign of both interest and of use in achieving our aims.

YouGov Poll: Majority of Public Do Not Trust Cameron on EU.

A YouGov Poll released today by the newly formed We Demand A Referendum Party shows the majority of electorate DO NOT have trust in David Cameron to stand up for British interests in the European Union.

The poll reveals that 54% do not have trust compared to 38% that do.
The same YouGov poll also reveals that the gap between those who wish to see an EU Referendum (62%) widening over those who do not (24%). In a YouGov Poll last month the figures for the same question were 56% to 28% respectively.
Worryingly for David Cameron the poll shows that almost three out of four Conservative voters want a Referendum.
The single issue We Demand A Referendum Party held their inaugural conference in London on Friday issued an ultimatum to the Prime Minister that if he failed to facilitate a In/Out Referendum by 1st January 2014 they would stand in every region in the next European Elections under the banner ‘We Demand A Referendum’ A YouGov Poll last month showed between 16% and 33% of the electorate would vote for them in June 2014 earning them between 8 and 22 seats.
Party Chairman, Nikki Sinclaire MEP said “These results show there is increasing support from across the political spectrum for an EU Referendum – When will the politicians listen to the people?”
The West Midlands MEP added “The economic crisis has changed the ball game in Europe. Fundamental changes are underway, now is the time to decide once and for all which fork in the road to take.”
Sorry – the layout of the tables is near unusable! You will find a more readable version on You Gov’s web site!
YouGov Survey Results
Sample Size: 2083 GB Adults
Fieldwork: 3rd – 4th October 2012
  Voting intention 2010 Vote Gender Age Social grade Region
Total Con Lab Lib Dem Con Lab Lib Dem Male Female 18-24 25-39 40-59 60+ ABC1 C2DE London Rest of South Midlands / Wales North Scotland
Weighted Results 2083 484 694 147 615 508 496 1012 1071 252 531 712 587 1187 896 267 677 446 512 181
Unweighted Sample 2083 532 608 130 689 446 488 1030 1053 117 479 848 639 1397 686 253 733 427 487 183
% % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % %
Do you think the government should or should not hold a referendum on whether or not Britain remains a member of the European Union?
Should 62 72 58 42 76 61 50 62 61 34 53 67 74 57 68 58 61 64 63 60
Should Not 24 19 29 45 15 28 38 29 19 40 28 21 18 29 19 30 25 22 20 29
Don’t know 14 9 13 13 9 11 13 8 20 27 19 11 8 14 14 12 14 14 16 11
How much trust, if any, to you have in David Cameron to stand up for British interests in the European Union.
A great deal of trust 6 20 1 4 13 1 5 6 5 7 7 6 5 8 3 7 8 4 5 6
A fair amount of Trust 32 61 18 54 49 17 38 35 30 31 39 31 29 38 25 35 37 32 26 31
TOTAL GREAT DEAL / FAIR AMOUNT OF TRUST 38 81 19 58 62 18 43 41 35 38 46 37 34 46 28 42 45 36 31 37
Not much trust 30 15 36 33 25 33 35 29 31 32 26 29 35 28 33 36 32 29 30 22
No trust at all 24 1 41 5 9 44 17 27 21 16 17 28 28 19 31 16 18 26 33 27
TOTAL NOT MUCH TRUST / NO TRUST 54 16 77 38 34 77 52 56 52 48 43 57 63 47 64 52 50 55 63 49
Don’t Know 7 2 5 3 3 5 5 3 12 14 11 6 2 7 7 6 5 9 7 14

I have reposted below the report from Gary Cartwright of the actual meeting/conference for two reasons – namely that he was there as part of the organisation and secondly as he is well informed as a long term employee of The EU.

Saturday, 6 October 2012

Campaign for a Referendum: Conference a Great Success!

Its always nice to spend a couple of days in London, even if it is a working visit.

On Thursday evening I was delighted to meet Katie Hopkins for the first time: she is absolutely the right person for the campaign, as her media appearences to date have proved. We were joined at dinner at the Victory Services Club by Nikki and a number of senior members of the team, and also Roger Knapman and his wife Carolyn, as well as former Lib-Dem councillor David McGrath and his wife, both of whom I know from the campaign to clear an illegal travellers camp in Meriden. The cross-party demographics of this campaign team give us both integrity and depth.

But the real reason for the trip was our inaugural conference in Westminster. The day began with Katie appearing on ITN’s Daybreak, and by the end of the first round of speakers we were on the front page of the BBC news website. Christian Party Leader George Hargreaves, and the US broadcaster and political analyst Charlie Wolf both gave excellent speeches, adding depth to the debate on our membership of the EU and what it means for our democratic integrity.

It was a chance to catch up with old friends from various parties, including one Conservative MEP, and to meet new people.

No surprise that UKIP had at least two spotters outside, reporting back on who was attending – I suspect that a few people will be getting some unpleasant phone calls or letters from their branch chairman shortly!

Two motions were passed by conference: the first calling on HMG to establish a Royal Commission to set the terms of reference for the referendum, the second calling on the PM to call a binding referendum before Jan 1st 2014.

A great success!

To view the original on Gary Cartwright’s Brussels blog CLICK HERE
I gather from several people who were there that the inagural conference surpassed most expectations in terms of its cross party contribution, its disinterest in UKIP, seen by many as having failed and now discreditted sliding towards the history books as such, and also my contacts were pleasantly surprised at the calliber of the speeches and presentations which at many such events are all too frequently too slick, too smug and too banal delivering nothing.I am fairly reliably informed the attendance was just over 70, which although shy of the 100 I had hope for was a successful result for such short term and also in the light of the childish attacks that have so demeaned UKIP!

I note that the Tory defector and UKIP turncoat David Bannerman was present, presumably having quit the Tories due to his failure and having been put in place in Farage’s party as an MEP in the apparent realisation that he was singularly unlikely to be re-elected having seen through the corruption of UKIP he defected back to the Tories and now having realised the Tories select their prospective MEP lists rather more fairly and with considerably more integrity than UKIP he stood little chance of being above 4th. or 5th. on the list and thus not a hope of being re-elected.

It seems probable that David Bannerman was looking for a new place to hang his hat and some prospect of getting back on the gravy train with his snout in the troughs that are The EU.

It was interesting to see Tony Schofield there but as yet he still seems not to have been fully weened of his love affair with UKIP which though it has turned sour leaves him in hope over experience.

I do endorse the decision and commend to you the fact that liars and low lifes Mick McGough and John Moran were made unwelcome and asked not to enter the meeting – they have shown in much detail their lack of ethics and dishonesty and clearly had nothing to offer the new organisation and would have proved a distraction and an embarrassment as they do in UKIP.

I gather McGough is not in favour at the moment having opposed the decision of Nigel Farage and Lisa Duffy to place the idiotic and discreditted self seeker Winston McKenzie in the key role – a more obvious political prostitute and self seeker would be hard to find anywhere but in the ranks of UKIP leadership’s claque.

Imagine if UKIP ever gained any position of authority how odious it would be – the centralised denial of any sense of democratic ethics, the McCarthy style infiltration of other people’s organisations, the keeping and making of lists of attendees, the odious bigots given status in UKIP, the prostitutes, the drunken yobbery, the corruption, the controlling nature, the centralised dictatorship and so many more anti democratic actions and controlling beliefs – They call it Libertarian!!!

Let us hope that the We Demand A Referendum moves forward from this limited success to greater things, which as the polls show are both populist and popular.
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Nigel Farage, UKIP & Chris Huhne’s seat + Corby!

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Nigel Farage, UKIP & Chris Huhne‘s seat + Corby!
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Farage pondering standing for UK parliament?

 
Article | July 18, 2012 – 11:04am | By Andy Carling

FanFanfare for the Commons man?|EPA/ANDY RAIN

Specualation is growing that Nigel Farage, leader of the euroskeptic UK Independence Party, is considering contesting a seat in the UK parliament, but it’s not straightforward.

There could be a by-election in Eastleigh, a constituency that falls in Farage’s seat, but the member of parliament is former MEP, Chris Huhne, a Liberal Democrat. Huhne is facing prosecution over an allegation that the MP asked his wife to take the blame for a speeding ticket. The case is expected to be before the court in October or November.

Should Huhne lose, it is widely expected that he will resign his parliamentary seat, forcing a by-election.

The seat has been closely fought between the Liberals and the Conservatives. Coalition government has not been kind to the Liberals, their support has dropped in the opinion polls and a large share of their activists have left the party, leaving the local Conservatives with an opportunity to capture a seat from their coalition parners.

However, UKIP may feel that they can capture a large part of the vote on a campaign based around an in/out referendum on the EU.

Farage contested the seat in 1994, where he lost to the Liberal candidate by over 23,000 votes. He did manage to beat the Monster Raving Loony Party’s legendary leader, ‘Screaming Lord Sutch’ by 169 votes.

Farage will certainly beat his ’94 vote and he has been actively courting the Tory right in a capmaign to force UK PM David Cameron to hold an EU membership referendum, even a close result in a by-election would seriously concern senior Tories and may manouvere them into making such a referendum a manifesto commitment for the nect general election. Farage would not need to win to ‘win’.

It would not be an easy contest, for UKIP has never come close to winning a UK seat. speaking to local press, Farage said, ““I have absolutely no idea what is going to happen with Chris Huhne’s case but if Chris is found not to have told the truth then it is clear that his position as MP for this town will be untenable. So we face the prospect perhaps of an Eastleigh by-election – it could happen in October or November this year, perhaps spring next year but be assured if and when there is an election we will give it everything we have got.”

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Hi,

I note there is likely to be a by election in Corby & Northants before that in Eastleiggh and UKIP has a right gaggle of rogues to field – be that the drunk who is Regional Organiser Don Ransom or the liar Derek Clark who glibbly lied about me when I exposed his criminality and then lied to his regional committee to hide the fact that OLAF had found him guilty of fraudulently using over £30K from claims on the public purse a crime for which Tom Wise was sentenced to 2 years in prison!

Alternatively they have an ex military chappy who was qualified as a barrister but no longer practices as he runs a B&B on his son in law’s estate trading off the son in law’s Baronetcy – I gather he doesn’t practice law having fallen foul of it himself!

Facing a challenge that he should resign if UKIP’s candidate is not within 5,000 of the winner Farage has all to gain though is unlikely to accept the challenge as he will wish to blame others for the abject failure of UKIP in British deomestic elections.

However it could prove a useful trial run for Eastleigh as heaven only knows UKIP desperately needs some serious campaigning rather than stunts, smears and sneering at which they are so good and now that they are hugely better funded by both gambling and gamblers the expenses will be a dodle particularly as so few of UKIP’s MEPs have ever made any meaningful donations to the party beyond self interest paymentys to get themselves elected!

Let us see. But let us not forget Farage climbed on the Huhne band wagon early on with claims he KNEW that Huhne had committed the crime as they were on the same plane returning from their weekly jolly in The EU at public expense – as I recall this was a claim he was unable to substantiate later when called on to do so – was he softening up Eastleigh with one of his publicity grabbing stunts?

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So let us see if Farage responds to Alan Hardy’s challenge rather more rapidly than David Cameron responded to Farage’s challenge.

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Farage gets some political coverage of value!

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The time will never be right for David Cameron to hold a referendum on the EU

The Prime Minister should explain why Britain can’t vote on continued membership of the failing European Union

Nigel Farage: 'Once again, I challenge the Prime Minister to have an open debate with me on why he believes we must stay part of this failing, corrupt EU. The future of our nation is at stake. Mr Cameron, you have my phone number'

Nigel Farage: ‘I challenge the Prime Minister to have an open debate with me on why he believes we must stay part of this failing, corrupt EU. The future of our nation is at stake. Mr Cameron, you have my phone number’ Photo: Eddie Mulholland

By Nigel Farage

8:10PM BST 05 Jul 2012

I have had enough of being told that we will have an EU referendum “when the time is right”. The time has come for a real debate: I challenge the Prime Minister to debate with me why he will not give us a say on our relationship with the European Union.

Anyone following David Cameron’s recent twists and turns on the EU could be forgiven for feeling dizzy. At one time, there was a “cast-iron guarantee” of a referendum. Then, last year, he three-line-whipped Conservative MPs to oppose the idea of holding one. Events last week did nothing to add clarity. On Friday in Brussels, with Angela Merkel looming over him, we were told that there would be no referendum. But 48 hours later, in an article in The Sunday Telegraph, he suggested that a referendum might be a possibility, though not just yet.

There is one note of total consistency. On at least half a dozen occasions, the Prime Minister has been clear that there will not be – must not be – a choice of whether we stay in or leave the EU.

The explanation is that it is in our interests to remain a member, so it does not matter what voters think. It’s a case of “I, David Cameron, have made up my mind.” This assertion, shared by almost the entire political class, must be questioned in an open debate. Those of us who have dared to challenge the consensus have been mocked and derided, but opinion polls now show that the British people do not want to be part of a political union.

The Prime Minister overstates the benefits of EU membership. I believe we would be better off out. My parents’ generation voted to remain a part of a Common Market which they believed to be a free-trade agreement that would not impinge on our rights of self-government. We were conned in 1975 and we must not allow that to be repeated today.

Mr Cameron claims that 3.5 million British jobs depend on us remaining part of the European Union. This comment always goes undisputed. It is based on the number of jobs dependent on exports to the EU and assumes that leaving the union would mean no further business between us and the EU – an incredibly weak, illogical argument. In 2010, the EU sold us £50 billion worth of goods more than we sold them. In short, they need us more than we need them. There is no chance of Mercedes, for example, refusing to sell us cars if we amicably divorce ourselves from political union.

The EU is a Seventies solution to a Fifties problem. The world has moved on since the “Common Market”, with World Trade Organisation agreements guaranteeing trading terms. Countries like Norway, Switzerland and even Mexico have free trade deals with the EU. Trade will continue as it does now with consumers making their choices in the marketplace. We are the world’s fifth-largest trading nation and yet, incredibly, we are banned from negotiating our own trade deals around the world. Ukip believes the Commonwealth is a good place to start, with its shared ties, common law, common language and a growth rate that outstrips our European neighbours.

But the benefits of leaving do not stop there. One of the most contentious issues in UK politics is immigration. With new arrivals running at 600,000 a year, the public demands that something must be done. But there is a problem. EU membership means that we have an open-door policy for our poorer European neighbours and a benefits system that encourages people to come here.

I was asked last week what I thought about new figures showing that Britain was the favoured destination for asylum seekers. I replied that 14,000 asylum seekers make up a small percentage of the total number of immigrants. Only by leaving the EU can we control our borders and apply a sensible and fair work permit scheme. My party is often accused of being anti-immigration. We are not. Work permits would allow talented, qualified people from all over the world a chance to contribute to the future of this country. Australia does it and so should we.

The other thing I am often asked about is human rights. Whether the issue is votes for prisoners or the failure to deport criminals on the spurious grounds of a “right to a family life”, our Government and courts are impotent. Highly paid, politicised lawyers will tell you that the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg is separate to the EU. That is no longer true. EU membership demands acceptance of all ECHR judgments and the EU intends to become a signatory in its own right, as part of the Lisbon Treaty. While we remain part of the EU, the chances of us wrestling back British judicial powers are slim.

I am pessimistic, however, that any of these serious issues will be addressed. My prediction is that Mr Cameron will be given one small, paltry concession from the EU over workers’ rights and will then present this as a victory of renegotiation. A referendum promise in the next Tory election manifesto on any “new package” would leave us exactly where we are now, still governed by Brussels, still unable to make our own laws and still paying £50 million a day for the “privilege” of belonging to this undemocratic club.

Once again, I challenge the Prime Minister to have an open debate with me on why he believes we must stay part of this failing, corrupt EU. The future of our nation is at stake. Mr Cameron, you have my phone number.

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The article is somewhat sabotaged, whether deliberately or not is hard to tell when at one moment members are told Steve Crowther has quit as an executive of UKIP having accepted the blame for the total debacle that was UKIP’s Local Election campaign and the risible results last May when out of 4,796 seats were up for election and UKIP were such a spectacular failure after 20 years only winning 9!
Yet consider this ‘e’Mail:
Steve Crowther
A Farage makeweight Placeman!

Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:11:12 +0100

Subject: Comment on Nigel’s article
From: Steve Crowther <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>
To: UKIP ROs 2011 <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>,
  UKIP Regional Chairmen 2011 <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>,
  UKIP NEC 2012 <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>,
  UKIP MEPs 2011 <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>
Thread-Topic: Comment on Nigel’s article

Dear All

PLEASE ADD A COMMENT BELOW NIGEL’S ARTICLE IN THE D TEL TODAY: THE MORE THEY GET, THE MORE THEY ARE LIKELY TO ASK FOR MORE ARTICLES FROM HIM.

Farage challenges Cameron to a debate on Europe

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/9378567/The-time-will-never-be-right-for-David-Cameron-to-hold-a-referendum-on-the-EU.html

Regards, Steve

Stephen Crowther, Chairman, UK Independence Party
Eastacombe House, Heanton, Barnstaple, N. Devon EX31 4DG
Phone 01271 813844 Mobile 07775 787579

Such rank amateurism is staggering and surely can not be for real!
Even for UKIP this is just naff – don’t forget the letter writting campaign and pressure brought on the media by Edward Heath in his betrayal of Britain campaign to surrender to vassal status in The EU (EEC at the time) at least he ensured that did not become common knowledge for many years out of simple professionalism!
Yes of course it was good to see an article of this length on this subject on The Telegraph web site earlier this morning but to see it undermined by UKIP leadership themselves within just a matter of hours speaks volumes of UKIP’s complete ineptitude, incompetence and clear lack of fitness for the task of leading Britain to Leave-The-EU – UKIP is unfit for purpose in its present form with its present incompetent leadership and extremist associates!
To be fair it covers various points but like many of my own articles uses too many words!It is unfortunate that Nigel Farage lacks the leadership qualities to attract and retain the staff of sufficient callier to work for him as researchers and speech writers and thus much of what he writes and says is off the cuff and just doesn’t hit the spot.
That Farage is leader of a pro EU membership reformist Pan EU group of the extreme righ wing, with criminal associates with convictions for child abuse, fraud, theft, assault, racism, anti Judaism, anti Islamism, anti homosexual and that his own party fails to follow his lead in many instances deeply undermines what little credibility he can still muster having fallen out with even his own placements amongst his MEPs and on his NEC.
Yes of course this is much better than his normal material, as all too often that is just reportage by others of the most noticeable aspects of Farage and his party, their louche and crass behaviour, their idiotic posturing, their complete lack of gravitas or political nouse or failing all else Farage’s testicles – It is almost unheard of to find a serious article espousing the principles of Leave-The-EU emanating from Farage or UKIP but then again in 20 years they have failed to debate, design and demand an exit and survival strategy for when we do Leave-The-EU, as we surely will if for no other reason than it will continue to fail and eventually collapse most probably dragging Britain into the vile morass it is working towards!
The article in todays Telegraph, as ever, fails to reasure the timerous or show WHY Britain will be Better-Off-Out and it is clear tyhere is no individual of stature, gravitas and competence to lead the Leave-The-EU side of the referendum, currently in the public eye.
There is also no visible way shown as to how the ‘Political Elte’ and the others who betray these United Kingdoms for their own gain can be prevented from cheating to ensure they can claim a victory and leave Britain in bonded status as vassals of the malign self serving self enriching mechanism of The EU as a supra national state bereft of democracy of any meaningful standards deserving of the name4 or even the fundamental human right of ‘self determination’ as enshrined in The UN Charter!
The article published in Farage’s name fails to show WHY we will be Better-Off-Out nor the exit and survival strategy to Leave-The-EU. Due to this sadly it merely comes across as a showman seeking attention and yet again lacks gravitas or plausibility.
That is not to gainsay it is better than having not been published – Let us hope a better calliber of script writer can be found to write his next article for him.
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