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Some Thoughts & reports on ‘We Demand A Referendum’

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/10/2012

Some Thoughts & reports on ‘We Demand A Referendum’
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You will find the poll commissioned by ‘We Demand A Referendum’ campaign of both interest and of use in achieving our aims.

YouGov Poll: Majority of Public Do Not Trust Cameron on EU.

A YouGov Poll released today by the newly formed We Demand A Referendum Party shows the majority of electorate DO NOT have trust in David Cameron to stand up for British interests in the European Union.

The poll reveals that 54% do not have trust compared to 38% that do.
The same YouGov poll also reveals that the gap between those who wish to see an EU Referendum (62%) widening over those who do not (24%). In a YouGov Poll last month the figures for the same question were 56% to 28% respectively.
Worryingly for David Cameron the poll shows that almost three out of four Conservative voters want a Referendum.
The single issue We Demand A Referendum Party held their inaugural conference in London on Friday issued an ultimatum to the Prime Minister that if he failed to facilitate a In/Out Referendum by 1st January 2014 they would stand in every region in the next European Elections under the banner ‘We Demand A Referendum’ A YouGov Poll last month showed between 16% and 33% of the electorate would vote for them in June 2014 earning them between 8 and 22 seats.
Party Chairman, Nikki Sinclaire MEP said “These results show there is increasing support from across the political spectrum for an EU Referendum – When will the politicians listen to the people?”
The West Midlands MEP added “The economic crisis has changed the ball game in Europe. Fundamental changes are underway, now is the time to decide once and for all which fork in the road to take.”
Sorry – the layout of the tables is near unusable! You will find a more readable version on You Gov’s web site!
YouGov Survey Results
Sample Size: 2083 GB Adults
Fieldwork: 3rd – 4th October 2012
  Voting intention 2010 Vote Gender Age Social grade Region
Total Con Lab Lib Dem Con Lab Lib Dem Male Female 18-24 25-39 40-59 60+ ABC1 C2DE London Rest of South Midlands / Wales North Scotland
Weighted Results 2083 484 694 147 615 508 496 1012 1071 252 531 712 587 1187 896 267 677 446 512 181
Unweighted Sample 2083 532 608 130 689 446 488 1030 1053 117 479 848 639 1397 686 253 733 427 487 183
% % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % %
Do you think the government should or should not hold a referendum on whether or not Britain remains a member of the European Union?
Should 62 72 58 42 76 61 50 62 61 34 53 67 74 57 68 58 61 64 63 60
Should Not 24 19 29 45 15 28 38 29 19 40 28 21 18 29 19 30 25 22 20 29
Don’t know 14 9 13 13 9 11 13 8 20 27 19 11 8 14 14 12 14 14 16 11
How much trust, if any, to you have in David Cameron to stand up for British interests in the European Union.
A great deal of trust 6 20 1 4 13 1 5 6 5 7 7 6 5 8 3 7 8 4 5 6
A fair amount of Trust 32 61 18 54 49 17 38 35 30 31 39 31 29 38 25 35 37 32 26 31
TOTAL GREAT DEAL / FAIR AMOUNT OF TRUST 38 81 19 58 62 18 43 41 35 38 46 37 34 46 28 42 45 36 31 37
Not much trust 30 15 36 33 25 33 35 29 31 32 26 29 35 28 33 36 32 29 30 22
No trust at all 24 1 41 5 9 44 17 27 21 16 17 28 28 19 31 16 18 26 33 27
TOTAL NOT MUCH TRUST / NO TRUST 54 16 77 38 34 77 52 56 52 48 43 57 63 47 64 52 50 55 63 49
Don’t Know 7 2 5 3 3 5 5 3 12 14 11 6 2 7 7 6 5 9 7 14

I have reposted below the report from Gary Cartwright of the actual meeting/conference for two reasons – namely that he was there as part of the organisation and secondly as he is well informed as a long term employee of The EU.

Saturday, 6 October 2012

Campaign for a Referendum: Conference a Great Success!

Its always nice to spend a couple of days in London, even if it is a working visit.

On Thursday evening I was delighted to meet Katie Hopkins for the first time: she is absolutely the right person for the campaign, as her media appearences to date have proved. We were joined at dinner at the Victory Services Club by Nikki and a number of senior members of the team, and also Roger Knapman and his wife Carolyn, as well as former Lib-Dem councillor David McGrath and his wife, both of whom I know from the campaign to clear an illegal travellers camp in Meriden. The cross-party demographics of this campaign team give us both integrity and depth.

But the real reason for the trip was our inaugural conference in Westminster. The day began with Katie appearing on ITN’s Daybreak, and by the end of the first round of speakers we were on the front page of the BBC news website. Christian Party Leader George Hargreaves, and the US broadcaster and political analyst Charlie Wolf both gave excellent speeches, adding depth to the debate on our membership of the EU and what it means for our democratic integrity.

It was a chance to catch up with old friends from various parties, including one Conservative MEP, and to meet new people.

No surprise that UKIP had at least two spotters outside, reporting back on who was attending – I suspect that a few people will be getting some unpleasant phone calls or letters from their branch chairman shortly!

Two motions were passed by conference: the first calling on HMG to establish a Royal Commission to set the terms of reference for the referendum, the second calling on the PM to call a binding referendum before Jan 1st 2014.

A great success!

To view the original on Gary Cartwright’s Brussels blog CLICK HERE
I gather from several people who were there that the inagural conference surpassed most expectations in terms of its cross party contribution, its disinterest in UKIP, seen by many as having failed and now discreditted sliding towards the history books as such, and also my contacts were pleasantly surprised at the calliber of the speeches and presentations which at many such events are all too frequently too slick, too smug and too banal delivering nothing.I am fairly reliably informed the attendance was just over 70, which although shy of the 100 I had hope for was a successful result for such short term and also in the light of the childish attacks that have so demeaned UKIP!

I note that the Tory defector and UKIP turncoat David Bannerman was present, presumably having quit the Tories due to his failure and having been put in place in Farage’s party as an MEP in the apparent realisation that he was singularly unlikely to be re-elected having seen through the corruption of UKIP he defected back to the Tories and now having realised the Tories select their prospective MEP lists rather more fairly and with considerably more integrity than UKIP he stood little chance of being above 4th. or 5th. on the list and thus not a hope of being re-elected.

It seems probable that David Bannerman was looking for a new place to hang his hat and some prospect of getting back on the gravy train with his snout in the troughs that are The EU.

It was interesting to see Tony Schofield there but as yet he still seems not to have been fully weened of his love affair with UKIP which though it has turned sour leaves him in hope over experience.

I do endorse the decision and commend to you the fact that liars and low lifes Mick McGough and John Moran were made unwelcome and asked not to enter the meeting – they have shown in much detail their lack of ethics and dishonesty and clearly had nothing to offer the new organisation and would have proved a distraction and an embarrassment as they do in UKIP.

I gather McGough is not in favour at the moment having opposed the decision of Nigel Farage and Lisa Duffy to place the idiotic and discreditted self seeker Winston McKenzie in the key role – a more obvious political prostitute and self seeker would be hard to find anywhere but in the ranks of UKIP leadership’s claque.

Imagine if UKIP ever gained any position of authority how odious it would be – the centralised denial of any sense of democratic ethics, the McCarthy style infiltration of other people’s organisations, the keeping and making of lists of attendees, the odious bigots given status in UKIP, the prostitutes, the drunken yobbery, the corruption, the controlling nature, the centralised dictatorship and so many more anti democratic actions and controlling beliefs – They call it Libertarian!!!

Let us hope that the We Demand A Referendum moves forward from this limited success to greater things, which as the polls show are both populist and popular.
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