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Ukip Is Clearly Too Corrupt To Risk Transparency & The Truth!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/12/2015

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Which engende red the following response from one long serving former Ukip County Councillor, who now sits Independent of Ukip:

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Subject: Re: Nigel Farage’s latest speech in the European Parliament
Date: 16 December 2015 13:22:28 GMT
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Dear UKIP HO,
I feel that suitable donations should be made to the fighting fund from the EU ( UK tax payers funded ) salaries of both Kirsten Farage and Annabelle Fuller. 
In the past UKIP appear to have been eager to grab donations from people who could barely afford to pay any monies, so let’s have some transparency and donations from certain UKIP officials with the following information:
1)  A complete break down of all donations/ office costs/ commissions paid and any cash transfers from the Ashford Call Centre which was controlled by Nigel Farage and John Moran out side of the UKIP NEC and the local area committee. This should include a full list of all proceeds and bank transfers ! After all this money was donated for the UKIP campaign over the whole country.
2) A full break down of all MEP’s monies / services donated to the party, including that of Nigel Farage over the years.
3) The financial accounts and breakdown of all EU monies that are given to UKIP because it belonged to an EU group in the parliament.
4) Financial records of EU monies by UKIP MEP’s belonging to a Pan European Party.
5) Donations made to UKIP by its high ranking officials. I have enclosed a sample below, but please supply a full list.
A) Steve Crowther salary was estimated at £100,000 per year
B) Will Gilpin  salary was estimated at £85,000 per year
C) Lisa Duffy  salary was estimated at £65,000 per year plus partner Pete Reeve salary combined with their council salaries.
UKIP is supposed to be a honest, transparent and Democratic Party which detests the corrupt hidden transactions of the EU and so should be open with the above information.
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To provide some background to Ukip’s style of corruption and dishonesty with its rigged internal elections, lack of ethics and integrity, dishonesty and obfusscation in handling other people’s money and donations and more:

Do you know why I was expelled from UKIP? – Statement from Cllr Chris Pain

April 23, 2014

I was a long standing party member for 8 years and a hard working loyal activist, achieving some of the best results for UKIP in any General Election. These efforts were instrumental in getting 16 County Councillors elected, thus becoming the official opposition on the Council, after beating the Tories in 9 out of 11 seats in the Boston/Skegness constituency. The prospect of this being UKIP’s first parliamentary seat was very high. Why would the leadership throw this away?

 

Everything enclosed in this email is backed up by evidence. I have been silent until now, but I believe it is time that all UKIP members were made aware of the real reason that I was expelled, rather than the ‘spin’ and lies that have come from certain persons within the party. When you consider the entire evidence, take into consideration that Nigel Farage has now stated different versions why I was thrown out of the party: for racialism which he did on prime TV, because of the Derek Clark incident. At no time did any of the panel read the evidence that Nigel Farage, Steve Crowther were involved in removing me from the party as early as May 2013, because it incriminated the top people in the party.

 

Matthew Richardson has also played a part in driving me out of the party. He is the UKIP Party Secretary and Director whilst also being the YBF Executive Director. If you look at their website you will find the following information, quote “YBF is a British conservative not-for-profit training, YBF enjoys close links with the British Conservative Party.”

 

HOW THINGS HAPPENED IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER

 

 

1.  THE FIRST THING
 

Nigel Farage refused to attend the East Midland Training Conference at Skegness in 2013

 

 

2.  BOSTON/SKEGNESS PARTY POLITICAL CANDIDATE (PPC)
 

Lisa Duffy, Party Director, tried to take away my PPC for Boston/Skegness at the NEC meeting on the 6th May, 2013. She stated that she and Steve Crowther hadn’t been notified of the hustings. I proved that I had been adopted by producing copy emails which had been sent to them both, by Don Ransome Regional Organiser, giving them the required notice. It was discovered that Don Ransome, UKIP’s paid Regional Organiser, had wiped the emails from his computer. (The Regional Organiser and his wife have had a legal letter to stop them spreading lies and defaming my character.) The NEC voted unanimously in favour of my adoption.

 

 

3.  RACIST COMMENTS

 

At the end of May last year my Facebook was cloned and was posted to ‘Hope Not Hate,’ who immediately forwarded it to the Sunday Mirror.

 

Monday 3rd June, 2013 at the NEC monthly meeting, I was questioned about the posting. I produced several hundred Facebook members’ statements, confirming that they had never seen anything racist or untoward on my site, or elsewhere attributed towards me. These people were linked to me personally so that any post I made was automatically posted to their computers. I had letters from friends of all nationalities stating that they had known me for years and that I was not racist.

 

Steve Crowther presented a case that these posts had been on my Facebook page and been deleted. I stated quite categorically that the posts had never been on my site at anytime.

 

The following week, I explained to Steve Crowther that I had evidence, produced by an IT expert, which confirmed that the racialist comments were never on my Facebook.

 

Steve Crowther maintained that it would not make a difference. I told him of course it did, as obviously, if they were never there in the first place, then how could I have deleted them.

 

In addition Steve Crowther advised that I had never reported the incident to the police. This was reported to the Skegness Police Force and ultimately passed on to Action Fraud – Crime Reference Number NFRC130500251709 that refers. There was also a full CID investigation into the incident. Mr Crowther, with his ulterior motivies, persuaded the NEC that I was a liar, with his own spin on the situation, without any actual evidence. I was suspended from the NEC for three months pending the outcome of the police investigation of which I was cleared.

 

 

4.  BEHIND THE SCENES

 

Steve Crowther sent an email instructing Pete Reeves to remove me as leader of the UKIP Lincolnshire County Councillors, despite which four attempts were made and failed before Steve Crowther finally suspended me from the party. Two ex Conservatives, Victoria Ayling and Robin Hunter-Clarke, were allowed into the party and became elected councillors for UKIP in Lincolnshire, being pushed to the forefront by the leadership. These persons subsequently received an email from Steve Crowther advising them of my suspension. No other UKIP Councillor has received such an email. Victoria Ayling and Robin Hunter Clark then approached the Chief Executive of Lincolnshire County Council to persuade him to remove me from my UKIP Group, at the same time disrupting the Group, making constant attempts to remove me as Leader. They had already been removed as Deputy Leaders, by unanimous vote, because of their continuous disruption and none attendance. They went on to break our groups constitution by organising a separate meeting in respect of which only Councillors of their choosing were notified. All this time false information was being leaked to the press.

 

In June 2013, all elected Councillors were invited to Brussels. John Beaver was directly involved in a conversation with Nigel Farage during which Nigel stated that Chris Pain was no longer in favour with the party and would soon be excluded.

 

5.  FLAWED MEP SELECTION PROCESS

 

On the 18th August 2013, I forwarded an email which had been sent to UKIP MEP Mike Nattrass.

 

In this email Steve Crowther states:-

“This NEC notes the technical procedural failure in relation to the appointment of the selection panels for the selection of MEPs. Further notes that the process was carried out by the following people acting as a de facto selection panel.”

 

(De Facto means as a fact authority being exercised or an entity acting as if it had authority, even though the legal requirements have not been met.)

 

Doug Denny stated:

“The appointment of independent persons was to be by the delegated, by an independent sub-committee of the NEC, not by the full NEC, nor by any individual.

 

At no time was Steve Crowther given delegated powers by the NEC to appoint these people. There is nowhere in the minutes to show he had these delegated powers conferred. The selection procedure using delegated people for the personal assessments is, I believe, seriously flawed, probably fatally so.

 

The people for the selection / assessment panel were appointed by Steve Crowther without approval of the NEC members in a vote. The whole procedure is therefore flawed if this is correct. The MEP selection process was changed by Steve Crowther against the wishes of the Regional Chairmen and party Activists.”

  

6.  CONSPIRACY – WILL GILPIN, EX CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF UKIP
 

The intention to take me out of the party was confirmed in a (recorded) conversation with Will Gillpin, UKIP Chief Executive Officer and also several other senior UKIP members. See verbatim conversation below:-

 

Chris Pain: “Well did Steve have any conversations with you or anything separately or?”

 

Will Gilpin: “I’ll give you an honest answer which is I can’t remember the details, but I was well aware that Steve Crowther had a lot of activity towards you and had made it very clear that he would like to get you out of the party, and would do whatever he could to achieve that.”

 

Will Gilpin: “Do you remember when you arranged your conference; you invited me and Katie to speak at it, or me to speak at it. I turned you down because Steve Crowther gave me a direct order that I wasn’t to attend, and that I wasn’t to have anything to do with you, and given that he was paying my pay cheque went along. Just because, Steve Crowther’s argument to me was basically that the conference was a project designed to get you elected, and as we didn’t want to get you elected, we had to do our best to not support it”

 

Chris Pain: “ I mean was it ever said why he wanted me out the party, has he ever dropped that reason out, or…? Is it down to Nigel or…?

 

Will Gillpin: “Yeah, it’s all been partly down to Nigel. I think it’s because you’re pushy and Nigel doesn’t like anyone pushy because they might go for the leadership at some point.”

 

*The lack of attendance of UKIP speakers caused the Gala Night, Sunday training and PPC assessment day to be cancelled. We were also fined for late cancellation. Although Steve Crowther’s actions hampered the weekend, the Conference day was a success.

 

7.  MY RESIGNATION FROM THE NEC

 

2nd September 2013

I resigned from the NEC. I decided I could no longer rubber stamp what I deemed to be a flawed MEP selection process. I could not condone the way the NEC business is conducted i.e. in total secrecy, not informing the members of its actions, or how people vote. I believe this to be totally undemocratic and with this in mind I typed out my resignation from the NEC.

 

I also on this date registered my disapproval re Steve Crowther’s lack of integrity and the flawed MEP selection process. I presented the transcript of Will Gilpin’s recording to the NEC. Despite this Matthew Richardson and Jonathan Arnott refused to allow the recording be played, stating that I could forward the recording to NEC members, advising that my complaint against Steve Crowther, re the flawed MEP selection process and the email that I sent to Mike Nattrass, would be looked at during the NEC meeting in October as it was classed as not urgent.

 

8.  SUSPENSION

 

Friday the 6th September

After producing this information I was suspended from the party on the following by Steve Crowther using his emergency disciplinary powers, and referring to the Will Gilpin recorded conversation. At this stage I must point out that as an NEC Member, (which means I was a Director of UKIP Ltd), I was entitled to record any evidence of wrong-doing within the party/company. In addition it is not illegal to record a conversation in one’s own home.

 

 

9.  EXPULSION

 

11th September
I was expelled from the group of Councillors. 5 UKIP long standing members supported me as they were aware of previous events, which had lead to the expulsion.

 

12th September

Notice of a disciplinary hearing to be held on the 18th September. My solicitor chased for case documents from UKIP and this appeared over the weekend. This left only 48 hours which to avail myself of all the allegations. My legal representation and I questioned the makeup of the panel, which could hardly have been classed as impartial.

 

 

10. THE HEARING

 

I was able to prove at the hearing that all the statements and accusations made against me were false. The only query involved an apparent difference in the structure of emails, surrounding the attachments, which appeared to the amateur, to have been presented in different ways. Being untrained in IT myself, I was unable at the time to produce an answer. (After, consulting with an experienced technician later, it appears that these differences relate solely to the type of systems in operation in each case.)

 

Apart from the computer issue I answered all accusations truthfully and with a clear conscience, despite which I was still expelled from the party. The primary issue at the hearing was the forwarding of the email and recording. I produced evidence that Mrs Pain Senior sent the recording and email’s, whilst I was not in the office and was on site at a Planning meeting.

 

Matthew Richardson stated at the end of the hearing:

 

“well we’ve explained in the sense that we agree with the Chairman’s reasoning, that the dissemination of this material is damaging to the party and erm, as a result we have no choice but to expel you”.

 

At the hearing it was stated by Matthew Richardson that he would be recording the hearing and provide a copy of the recording and the transcript. No recording was provided and the transcript was eventually sent. I can prove the transcript is both inaccurate and has been altered.

 

 

11.  UKIP CONFERENCE

 

At the UKIP conference, three UKIP Lincolnshire Councillors were discussing the situation regarding me when Nigel Farage walked into the room. He said nothing for a while then said see verbatim conversation below:-

 

Nigel Farage: “Pain had caused trouble for the party for a long time” Alan Jesson: “What do you mean by that” Nigel Farage: “He had made allegations against Derek Clark MEP, and that he, Pain, was a troublemaker and not to be trusted.”

Alan Jesson: “What about all the good work Chris has done and Lincolnshire needed Chris.”

Nigel Farage: “UKIP is bigger than Pain, and Pain was not coming back into the party.”

Alan Jesson: “Chris will be appealing”Nigel Farage got mad and started banging his fists on the table

Nigel Farage: “I have no influence over the appeal, but I tell you now that Pain is not coming back into the party”

 

I need to clarify, at this stage, that the East Midlands Committee asked Derek Clark to stand down as chairman. I have EMCC minutes to prove that Charles Swaby had raised the issue of Derek Clark, as per NEC rules that he wasn’t entitled to be Chairman. There were several discrepancies over Derek Clark’s OLAF investigation where he was found guilty. He had to repay over £30,000.00 back to the EU because of misuse of his allowances. He lied to the committee regarding this fact. There was also his involvement in the Leicester by election and flawed Mayoral candidate. The vote was unanimous by the East Midlands Committee to remove Derek. Derek’s response was to disband the EMCC committee at the start of the meeting, without the committee’s prior knowledge.

 

 

12.  SUPPORTING COUNCILLORS EXPELLED

 

The 5 Councillors that supported me had an email confirming that they had done nothing wrong and were ‘in good standing with the party’. Matthew Richardson stated he would come to Lincolnshire to resolve the issue, he never came. These Councillors were subsequently expelled from UKIP for supposedly forming a political party, which was proved at their hearing, not to be the case and confirmed by Lincolnshire County Council and Lincolnshire Echo. They were promised notification by December after my appeal had been heard, about their situation. To date they have heard nothing from the party.

 

 

13.  APPEAL HEARING

 

The panel at my Appeal hearing should have been unbiased but two out of the three who sat on the panel were EFD employees, paid and controlled by Nigel Farage.

 

Unable to attend the hearing due to Council commitments, I had asked for 3 alternative dates to be set, once the Data information that I had requested had been received. Jonathan Arnott stated if I couldn’t attend on the date they had set, the hearing would go ahead without me. This breaks UKIP’s constitution that states that the ‘appellant’ should be present, and also breaks the case of natural justice in the court of law. Data Request information has still not been forth coming to date.

 

After reading the Appeals panel conclusion I once more discovered that Steve Crowther had lied to the panel. The panel stated that I was expelled because of the email that was sent to Mike Nattrass, which means I was thrown out of UKIP for whistle blowing on the flawed MEP selection process.

 

I have evidence which shows that Matthew Richardson has instructed the NEC to alter previous NEC minutes to suit Steve Crowthers actions.

 

 

One thing for consideration is that I was anti any pre election packs between UKIP and the Conservative party. This is where UKIP members would stand down in safe Tory seats. Nine regional chairmen had supported me in favour of regional MEP selections. I would not betray members or the British public.

 

If you need any proof of all of the above please ask.

To view the original of the statement above CLICK HERE

There are clearly many many more examples of self serving dishonesty and corruption within Ukip particularly in the upper management and leaderrship group – such as:

Ukip still haven’t given any kind of cogent or responsible response to the facts surrounding their fraud and corruption reported with links CLICK HERE

Then there is the abiding issue of Racism in Ukip CLICK HERE

Here are a few other issues mostly concerning Gawain Towler, which Ukip has failed to sort out CLICK HERE

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Yet More Ukip Corruption In Lincolnshire

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Yet More Ukip Corruption In Lincolnshire
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 Yet More Ukip Corruption In Lincolnshire, yet another rigging of selection process – this time in Ukip’s No. 2 target Westminster Seat!

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yet further provenance of the total corruption of the process of democracy within Ukip – a circumstance repeated time and time again making a total mokery of the much vaunted principles of democracy in Ukip.
There is absolutely no doubt that there has been constant and continuous rigging of Ukip selection and election processes. Ukip has been utterly dishonest in its due process and has not only rigged selections and elections but has used them to steal money from their members – offering democracy and votes to members who had put their names forward with various payments required to obtain the right to stand for el;ection!
Corruption in Ukip and overt fraud has been endemic, whether as when Douglas Denny dishonestly acted for Nigel Farage to do all he could to ensure Farage was elected leader – a stunning act of corruption and dishonesty from someone supposedly empowered as the Returning Officer for the election with the duty to ensure ‘fair play’ and adherence to the rules yet himself cheating for Nigel Farage directly!
Douglas Denny was caught out, in no small part by this blog which exposed the corruption, subsequently he was removed as Returning Officer by the NEC, regardless of his hissy fit and lies to try to cover his tracks. Douglas Denny’s removal however (which is fully documented despite intervention dishonestly to try to remove all the evidence given by my blogs) However unfortunately by that time the damage was done and the election of Farage was nothing more than a corrupt coronation.
There are many more examples of the corruption of Ukip which have beenconclusively proven – below is just yet another example:

Nigel Farage with Robin Hunter-Clarke

UKIP’s oft-burnished reputation as a democratic grassroots party is set to take a battering with its own members — after the party’s top committee intervened to install one of their own number as the candidate for their #2 target seat.

With polling from Survation giving the party a massive 20-point lead, 22 year-old councillor and National Executive Committee (NEC) member Robin Hunter-Clarke is set to become the youngest MP in more than 30 years if he prevails in the Lincolnshire seat of Boston and Skegness, which is second only to Clacton in its demographic receptiveness to UKIP.

But emails leaked to Scrapbook lay bare a conspiracy amongst party top brass to install Hunter-Clarke as candidate. The day before the selection hustings was to take place, shortlisted candidates received a message from a local party official notifying them of “an anomalous situation”:

“I greatly regret that this situation has arisen and I hope that you will appreciate that it has done so solely as a result of the intervention of the NEC.

Apparently they’d decided to unilaterally install Hunter-Clarke on the shortlist, with corrupt former Tory minister Neil Hamilton withdrawing his name:

“The shortlist was duly drawn up and was submitted to the NEC. Unusually, they made adjustments to the list and one name was withdrawn and was replaced by another.

And it gets even more stinky. It turns out that Hunter-Clarke was not only on the NEC, which nobbled proceedings in his favour, but also the local committee which drew up the original shortlist in August — meaning he had seen his opponents’ CVs and had the inside track on their strengths and weaknesses.

The local party proposed sharing CVs amongst the other hopefuls — but UKIP’s head of candidates David Soutter didn’t respond until, errrr, the day before the selection meeting:

“Clearly, this was an undesirable situation and the only remedy seemed to be for all of you to have sight of each others’ CVs in order to create a level playing field.

“I wrote to [David Soutter] setting out the situation and suggesting the above remedy. That was 2½ weeks ago and I have just today received Mr. Soutter’s agreement as to this proposed course of action.

Hilariously, Soutter then refused to tell locals which candidate had prevailed at the meeting until a week later:

We’re currently awaiting a statement from ‘Kipper HQ, who insist the whole process has been above board.

UPDATE: UKIP statement: “Steps were taken to ensure that the selection in Boston and Skegness was a fair and balanced one. Robin Hunter-Clarke was selected by to fight the seat by an overriding and overwhelming vote by the Branch.”​

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Further comments ‘e’Mailed to me adds further details to this story of typical Ukip corruption:
Robin Hunter-Clarke was not only on the NEC, which nobbled proceedings in his favour, but also the local committee which drew up the original short-list in August — meaning he had seen his opponents’ CVs and had the inside track on their strengths and weaknesses.

Hunter Clarke is of course a Farage sycophant, and he makes much of being a local lad.  The problem is that he in fact lives in Chester where he is a law student.  Quite how he is going to manage to keep up with his studies is anyone’s guess, let alone fulfil his responsibilities as a councillor in Lincolnshire!
Hunter Clarke faces 260 mile round trips to attend council meetings in Lincoln, and be fully available to his constituents on local matters.  This appears not only to be exhausting for the young chap but potentially very expensive for the public.

He has been parachuted into the Boston & Skegness parliamentary seat – without a bye or leave to the local party.  Even though he has precious little experience of life (he’s still a student) he already sits on the UKIP NEC and is Chairman of a UKIP branch, and he’s a p/t councillor.  Now he’s set to be a PPC for UKIP, and possibly an MP!  What skills does he have to achieve such a rapid rise to prominence, apart from being a sycophant?  If elected will he continue to ‘read law’ and be a p/t MP as he is a p/t councillor?  Or will he become yet another career politico who will never have any first hand experience of the real world?

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Ongoing War In UKIP Scotland & other areas

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Ukip at war in Scotland

UKIP in Scotland is in “turmoil” after six of its nine European candidates quit amid allegations of dirty tricks and claims an ally of UK leader Nigel Farage was unfairly helped in the contest.

Ukip's Scottish leader Christopher Monckton and David Coburn, 'ally' of Nigel Farage, right

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The six, who include Scottish leader Lord Christopher Monckton and chair Mike Scott-Hayward, stood down as ballot papers were about to be sent out.

But the party pushed ahead with the selection and David Coburn, who is Ukip’s London chair, was the controversial winner. A party source described the process as a “shambles” and evidence of London “parachuting in” a candidate.

Ukip in Scotland has failed to replicate the party’s success south of the Border, where Farage and his team have elected representatives in town halls and Brussels. At recent Holyrood by-elections, Otto Inglis polled 4.83% in Aberdeen Donside and Peter Adams got 3.75% in Dunfermline.

But Ukip in England is tipped to do well in next year’s European election, with the Scottish party in the hunt to take one of Scotland’s six MEP seats.

The prospect of a breakthrough prompted some of the Scottish wing’s biggest hitters to stand in the contest.

Nine candidates were shortlisted: Monckton; Scott-Hayward; Inglis; Coburn; Paul Henke; Ross Durance; Malcolm Macaskill; Steven McKeane; and Kevin Newton.

The selection was aimed at whittling down the nine hopefuls to six.

Whoever came top of the internal ballot had, in the words of one insider, a “decent” chance of becoming an MEP next year. But the selection has prompted an extraordinary bout of infighting and a civil war between the UK party and its Scottish branch. On the eve of ballot papers being sent out to Scottish members in September, some candidates became concerned about the alleged tactics being used by Inglis.

There was also suspicion about the presence in the race of Coburn, who was believed to be an ally of Farage.

Fears were aggravated when Ukip’s Lanarkshire branch sent an email saying it endorsed Coburn and Inglis as “preferred lead and second candidates”. The statement added: “Lanarkshire branch office bearers and members are thereby requested to canvass and cast votes on behalf of David Coburn and Otto Inglis alone.”

The grievances came to a head at a candidates’ summit in Edinburgh in September. Seven of the nine – the exceptions being Inglis and Coburn – resigned as candidates in an email to Ukip chair Steve Crowther. They stated: “We withdraw as candidates for European parliamentary seats.”

In a clear dig at Coburn, they claimed that “Ukip’s leader had invited a London friend to stand”, adding a senior figure in the contest had “unfairly advantaged him”.

The letter complained about the alleged tactics of another candidate, which a source confirmed as Inglis.

They said of the Lanarkshire email: “A branch broke the rules by widely endorsing these two candidates.”

The candidates claimed that Ukip in London “twice refused” to suspend the ballot pending an investigation.

It is understood Newton reversed his decision to quit.

Despite this meltdown, Ukip sent ballot papers to Scottish members with all nine candidates on it.

With more than half of the contenders no longer competing, it left the relatively unknown Coburn with a huge opportunity, which he took, as he topped the poll.

One source said Ukip has presided over a “shambles” in Scotland: “It would appear they think parachuting in a London-based Scot is the answer. You cannot invite candidates to join a fair election fight when in reality the whole ballot appears to have been fixed from the start.”

The source added: “We have blown any prospects of electoral success in next year’s European elections.”

Ukip recently published the results of the list rankings for Wales, Northern Ireland and regions in England, but not Scotland.

Coburn describes himself as “Lead Ukip Scotland MEP Candidate” on his Twitter feed.

The mass resignation is the latest setback for Farage’s party in Scotland. Earlier this year, Farage had to abandon a press conference in an Edinburgh pub after being heckled.

He said: “The anger, the hatred, the shouting, the snarling, the swearing was all linked in to a desire for the Union Jack to be burnt.”

Asked about the resignations, Lord Monckton said: “I just want to confirm where we’ve got to with London. Once that’s been sorted out, the position will become clear.”

Asked why he resigned, he said: “We will go into all of that after London has come up with its answer.”

Henke said of his decision to withdraw: “It was about fairness. I took my name off the list.”

Inglis said: “Speak to someone further up the tree.”

Coburn said that he had won the internal contest, but denied Farage had asked him to stand. Asked about the six resignations, he said: “I can’t really discuss the list. I’m just a candidate like everyone else.”

He added: “There is no civil war in Ukip Scotland. There are always disgruntled people everywhere.”

Macaskill, Durance and Scott-Hayward did not return calls.

McKeane declined to comment, while Newton could not be contacted.

SNP MEP Alyn Smith said: “Ukip in Scotland are clearly in turmoil, and the reality is that people are not buying the prejudice they are selling.”

A Ukip spokesman said: “Ukip’s candidate list for the European Elections in Scotland has not yet been announced because of a dispute within Ukip Scotland, which has seen some candidates, including the Scottish Leader Lord Monckton, at odds with others.

“Several of the candidates, including Lord Monckton, withdrew from the list in September shortly before the ballot papers were despatched. The Party’s National Executive Committee decided that it would nonetheless proceed with the ballot, which was won by David Coburn.

“The NEC has subsequently reviewed the situation and, with the withdrawn candidates declining its requests to return to the list, has resolved to move forward.

“David Coburn will be the lead candidate, supported by a full list of nationally approved candidates which will be announced shortly.”

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Predictable as this shambles is it is far from new as a quick glance at UKIP’s own returning officer’s report for a previously rigged election controlled by Farage’s grubby little clique shows CLICK HEREAlso consider the unprofessional incompetence in the London Region 2012 elections CLICK HERE
UKIP may have managed to sell a ‘man of the people’ image for its leader but if this is how ‘the man of the people’ and his people behave little wonder that in 20 years they have failed to even come realistically close to having an MP elected, they have a mere 147 Councillors elected and several have quit or been duplicitously dumped leaving around 120 I believe and as for MEPs Farage can only really claim the support of about 4 out of his original 13 elected.The party is clearly appealing to an extremist racist, anti homosexual, anti Jewish agenda despite its claims. It can not be denied that Nigel Farage’s cheeky chappy facade has strong pulling power amongst a rather unappealing sector of the electorate and he has been able to capitalise on the collapse of the BNP, dissaray of the EDL and ineptitude of the Robin Tillbrook party.Scotland is clearly not the only area in UKIP in a shambles as the briefest of Google searches will show with a full on war in the Press Office that has seen the unprincipled Gawain Towler ousted and saving face by having been given a less relevant job as a researcher in Brussels and third place in the UKIP SW Regional MEP bid for the gravy train.It would be no surprise if he found himself replaced by the scoundrel and serial failure Mark Croucher who has been proven to be only too willing to default on his debts and lie on Farage’s behalf in the past.

You may wish to investigate the debacle and bullying by UKIP in the Lincolnshire region, which shows beyond doubt UKIP’s inability to act ethically or with any decorum as clearly they are unprofessional and without any vestige of competent leadership.

This has given rise to widespread bad publicity in the media and the latest round in the chaos is exemplified by this round robin eMail:

From: Christopher Pain <chris.ukip@btinternet.com>

Subject: Save the Lincolnshire UKIP Six | Campaigns by You

Date: 16 November 2013 00:17:47 GMT

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Dear All, 

Please connect on the link below, this is an online petition to help six Lincolnshire county councillors, including myself regain our positions within the party.This will allow natural justice to be allowed and a full investigation into the circumstances surrounding it.

 Regards,

 Cllr Chris Pain

http://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/save-the-lincolnshire-ukip-six

I have set up a petition please sign and share

You will all have noted the dishonesty and lies of Derek Clark MEP & the fact that he was found guilty of defrauding the public purse and ordered to pay back a large sum of money by OLAF though it is unlikely he will go to prison for his offences in view of his advanced age, unlike Tom Wise MEP who was sent6enced to 2 years in prison over a similar sum of money he obtained fraudulently.You will of course have seen the exposure of the Farage cult by the disgruntled West Midlands MEP Mike Nattrass, when he failed to be selected to ride on the gravy train for UKIP again.Or Godfrey Bloom MEP who has been summarily & publicly dumped by Farage, though to be fair he still sits as a member of Farage’s extremist, racist and anti homosexual EFD Group in the EU parliament.Then we have the odious and ignorant Gerard Batten MEP who has clearly betrayed his electorate and the party to follow his personal agenda dabbling in Russian/Chechen politics (note the nationality of his staff!) and pursuing a clear policy of publishing and speaking to an agenda likely to incite racial hatred and unrest in support of his personal superstitions. All causes he is all too willing to lie to defend!

FARAGE, Nigel 77
In the midst of this debacle the cult leader is scheduled to have surgical attention to his spine as it is clearly damaged and causing notable pain CLICK HERE 

Obviously it would be all too easy to continue but perhaps you might care to read the 2.1/2 thousand postings on this web site where I have laid bare the facts with cross reference & supportive links in an effort to try to clean-up UKIP in the vain hope it can be made fit for purpose to perform its role as the natural leader of the Leave-The-EU movement – which sadly it has at this stage clearly betrayed.

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We are not alone in realising Farage’s UKIP is corrupted

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    From winning their first ever 16 seats on Lincolnshire County Council in May, UKIP in Lincolnshire had to deal with racism allegations and suspensions, leading up to the party losing its official opposition status after six councillors split from the party in September. How did it get to this point? May 3, 2013: UKIP win their first 16 seats for councillors on Lincolnshire County Council in the local elections, as Conservatives lost overall control after winning just 36 seats and Labour won 12 seats. The turnout was just 29% county-wide. In Lincoln the turnout was even lower at 26%.

    May 9, 2013: Conservative County Council leader Martin Hill agrees on a coalition to maintain control with Liberal Democrats Reg Shore, John Marriot and Pat O’Connor, and Independents Chris Brewis, Bill Aron and Angela Newton.

    May 10, 2013: Chris Pain, UKIP’s East Midlands regional chairman and Wainfleet and Burgh councillor, is voted by fellow party members as the leader of UKIP on Lincolnshire County Council. He nominates Robin Hunter-Clarke and Victoria Ayling as his deputy leaders. UKIP become the second largest group on the council, the majority opposition.
    UKIP Councillor Chris Pain. Photo: Steve Smailes for The LincolniteUKIP Councillor Chris Pain. Photo: Steve Smailes for The Lincolnite

    May 11, 2013: Chris Pain confidently says he will stand for MP at the next general election for Boston and Skegness against Conservative MP Mark Simmonds, squashing rumours that UKIP leader Nigel Farage will stand there given the party’s success in the area.

    May 17, 2013: All 16 UKIP councillors refuse to sign an anti-racism declaration at the County Council annual meeting. The document is meant to ensure all Lincolnshire residents are treated equality and have access to the same services. The motion is passed by 60 other councillors.

    May 23, 2013: Lincolnshire Police begin investigating claims that racist comments were posted on the Facebook pages of UKIP Lincolnshire leader Chris Pain and two other UKIP councillors, Alan Jesson and Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright. All three strongly denied making the comments and Chris Pain said his account had been hacked. The issue was brought to police attention by someone from the County Council.

    June 4, 2013: Chris Pain is forced to step down from his East Midlands regional chairman role over the alleged racist comments posted on Facebook. UKIP’s National Executive Committee (NEC) said it was holding its judgement on until police complete their investigation. Chris Pain remains leader of the UKIP group on the County Council.

    June 12, 2013: Chris Pain insists sanctions imposed on him by UKIP are just a formality while he clears his name and says he submitted an application to stand as an MEP representing the party in next year’s European election.

    July 31, 2013: Chris Pain confirms his deputies Victoria Ayling and Robin Hunter-Clarke have been stripped of their roles in the party on the County Council. Councillor Ayling says “There are question marks over the process taken with this,” and that UKIP are investigating the matter. Tattershall Castle Councillor Colin Mair becomes the new deputy.
    UKIP Councillor Tiggs Keywood-WainwrightUKIP Councillor Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright

    September 5, 2013: Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright gains the Fenside seat for UKIP on Boston Borough Council with 162 votes. The by-election was called after English Democrats Councillor Eliott Fountain was ousted for not attending any council meetings for over six months.

    http://thelincolnite.co.uk/2013/09/t…olnshire-ukip/

    The bit in bold is where the trouble starts. I presume it is because the fascists that are the real power behind this country took a disliking to the UKIP taking a disliking to their “anti-racism” offensive (May 17). They tried to set Chris Pain up (May 23), but we can deduce that he managed to clear his name due to the allegations failing to stick. This must have been an embarrassment for the fascists so they presumably called on their man within the UKIP to deal with it. That man was Steve Crowther. The reason for the trouble in the first place was because the UKIP went against the grain.

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    This is also worth bearing in mind:

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    I was one of those that UKIP clearly “didn’t like” and “didn’t fit the mold” when i ran as a candidate in the CC elections in East Sussex last May… UKIP management’s cronies hacked in to my Facebook account (allegedly), created a ghost or clone account using my name, photograph and my email to access my main account… wrote a whole load of anti semitic rubbish in my name which no thanks to their useless press department, resulted in a nationwide indeed, world wide negative press campaign against me which has carried on over many months. The last publication that i am aware of, with negative comments related to myself was just a month ago in The Sunday Times! They deliberately tried to wreck my reputation and standing in the community and possibly make me a target of extremists who assumed (wrongly) that i am anti semitic and a crazed conspiracy theorist… they then, suspended me. It was a vicious, nasty, reckless and dangerous attempt to discredit me. It was a difficult time but, i weathered it and held my head high. I still ran in the CC Elections and indeed my colleague and i did incredibly well. Why? Because the local community and indeed UKIP branch members didn’t for one minute believe the negative publicity cooked up by these vicious but incredibly ambitious thugs within UKIP… Shameful. I have since resigned from UKIP and am convinced that UKIPs upper management were behind this witch hunt. There is no way that UKIP are committed to free speech or democracy. I believe they are just another right wing controlled opposition party who are supporting and abetting the establishment’s agenda. Some of grassroots remain in denial but, when the truth comes out and it will, they are in for an unpleasant awakening when they realise they have all been well and truly used.. and conned. There is no loyalty within UKIP, no respect and no thanks for hard work or loyal support by its members, candidates and councillors… in fact, from what i have witnessed first hand, grassroots are lucky to receive so much as the crumbs from management’s table.

    http://thelincolnite.co.uk/2013/09/t…olnshire-ukip/

    That’s not too “cool” either!

    It seems to me that the party is being hacked. We know that the fascists play dirty if they can’t win legitimately, and they must have seen that Chris Pain could have ended up as the UKIP MP for Lincolnshire. The fascists seem to use Facebook as their method of choice in their sting operations. They must have some sort of control in this. At a guess I would say it looks like some rogue elements within the British intelligence agency, which are obviously linked to the higher echelons of the British government. You see in a way this has come about by the UKIP being a victim of its success. It now represents a credible threat to the establishment. Unless the UKIP take this seriously they will end up like the BNP and become extinguished. You UKIPPers have the big boys on to you now. Good luck, as I think you will need it.

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    REDACTED as being gratuitously damaging to UKIP, without being constructive or contributory by one of the regular anonimised trolls on the site whose contributions are mostly sneering efforts to demean UKIP and undermine any efforts to accentuate its problems with the aim of cleaning-up the Farage controlled party to make it in any way fit for purpose and electable to principled people of integrity as the flagship of EUroScepticism.

    In my opinion.
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    REDACTED as being gratuitously damaging to UKIP, without being constructive or contributory by one of the regular anonimised trolls on the site whose contributions are mostly sneering efforts to demean UKIP and undermine any efforts to accentuate its problems with the aim of cleaning-up the Farage controlled party to make it in any way fit for purpose and electable to principled people of integrity as the flagship of EUroScepticism.

    In my opinion.
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    REDACTED as being gratuitously damaging to UKIP, without being constructive or contributory by one of the regular anonimised trolls on the site whose contributions are mostly sneering efforts to demean UKIP and undermine any efforts to accentuate its problems with the aim of cleaning-up the Farage controlled party to make it in any way fit for purpose and electable to principled people of integrity as the flagship of EUroScepticism.

    In my opinion.
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    The destruction of Ukip from within is following a similar pattern to the destruction of the BNP from within. Even the personal smears are similar – faked Nazi salutes and anti-Semitic comments. This has a far reaching effect beyond just that on members and supporters as it discredits nationalists and patriots to the wider public and strengthens the state in their battle against the British people.

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    Here’s a bit more news from up that way.

    THE UK Independence Party is in meltdown in Worcestershire – with an entire group of activists sensationally quitting to form a breakaway group. West Midlands MEP Mike Nattras and Carl Humphries, UKIP’s best known organiser in Worcester, have teamed up to launch a new political party.

    Mr Humphries is a former Worcester city councillor and UKIP election candidate who has been working behind the scenes for years recruiting new party members.

    Mr Nattras, who quit UKIP last month after being deselected from next year’s European elections following rows with leader Nigel Farage, has launched ‘An Independence Party’.

    To add to the drama, two other UKIP activists resigned yesterday to join the new party – saying they were fed up with being “dictated to”.

    http://www.droitwichadvertiser.co.uk…y_is_launched/

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Saturday, 12 October 2013

EXCLUSIVE: UKIP Hit Back at Breakaway Councillors.

A national spokesperson for UKIP has today sensationally hit back at being accused of favouring former Conservatives.

In an exclusive sensationally revealing interview with tbg a UKIP source says that the breakaway “UKIP Lincolnshire is not a name the party will permit for a breakaway group, led by a man (Chris Pain) who has been booted out of the party.”

The source says – “Chris Pain says that he is a man of ‘honesty and integrity’ and then publicly announces that Ukip is in meltdown.”

“If his intent is to launch his own political party he should surely resign from every advantaged position bestowed upon him and which he has achieved under the national Ukip banner.”

“Whatever the dispute is between Chris Pain and the national party, Chris’ Ukip position is untenable and therefore he should stop talking and start writing his resignations instead.”

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Hi,

presumably Chris Pain is expected to follow the example of the Tory MEP Roger Helmer who announced he was about to retire but when his party rejected his ultimatum to replace him with his chosen successor he dishonourably withdrew his resignation and announced his support for UKIP and now sits as a UKIP supporting MEP, as a member of the racist, anti homosexual, Holocaust dennying, xenophobic and extremist EFD Group!

That those who have worked closest to Chris Pain, namely his co elected Councilors and others have chosen NOT to remain in support of Farage’s centralised, authoritarian, racist and clearly corrupt party – may just provide an indication of just how corrupted UKIP has become.

I freely admit that I did not believe Chris Pain would have the required clout and guile nor the cash or clout to achieve his aim to clean-up UKIP from within.

We should all be aware just how many UKIP executives, staff and claque have records for repeated dishonesty and convictions for defrauding the public purse or are under investigation for their frauds.

That UKIP’s selection processes are suspect is hardly surprising based o n their proven track record of rigging elections.

Chris Pain & his fellow supportive Councillors and supporters can fulfill THEIR elected term and we will see at the next election just how they have acquitted their duty to their electorate – Though I doubt their ability to acquit their core duty towards the policy of Leave-The-EU.

In real terms UKIP has consistently failed in domestic politics despite the surge in popularity of the aim to Leave-The-EU – a message UKIP has diluted with idiotic obsession with drink, fags and internal squabbling.

There is no denial that Farage is a competent opponent of EU membership but clearly he surrounds himself with weak and self serving low lifes unfit for purpose without gravitas or ability.

UKIP can not achieve anything long term with merely the one performing monkey – no leader of ability, no strategy, no tactics and not even a clear EU exit & survival plan – Just personal ambition and a thirst for seats on the gravy train.

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Anonymous said…
I know that Chris Pain has never wanted his own party, he has built up the UKIP presence in Boston/Skengess over 8 years, and was very successful. He is staunch UKIP, so are the other Councillors in question staunch UKIP. The want to stay UKIP. Please when you receive this sort of information, maybe you should contact the other side and print their side of things, so everybody can see what is happening and what is right.

Anonymous said…
Chris pain and the Lincolnshire 6 are just the sort of people for ukip. He and 2 others have had disgusting racist posts atributed to them. They should resign because they will not represent everyone.

Greg_L-W. said…

Hi,

attribution is NOT proof!

We do know and it is provable fact that UKIP leadership team will willingly lie to protect their income stream.

I understand the police have been unable to prove racist postings on the internet in this instance – however there is no doubt that Gerard Batten a UKIP MEP has published and promoted material which is likely to cause racial hatred and UKIP’s EFD Group are beyond doubt inclusive of known racists, anti homosexuality, violence, Holocaust denial and anti Judaism this is the group of EU politicians which Nigel Farage chairs!

Perhaps some balance would help and though I hold no brief for Chris Pain or his supporters likewise I do believe in justice and honesty.

Please note the claims made against Chris Pain and others who seek to clean-up UKIP are all too often made by cowards sheltering behind anonimity and without honour, integrity or credibility.

I have no reason to believe that Chris Pain posted racist material or acted in a racist manner other than via UKIP contacts and we KNOW UKIP is not to be trusted.

That is not to say Pain did not post such material.

Perhaps the dictum of innocent until proven guilty should be given greater credence!

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UKIP’s Determination to Self Destruct

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Hi,this story or parts of it is replicated not only through UKIP’s history as its leadership clique and its claque fight like ferrets in a sack, but also it is replicated across Britain – ensuring UKIP is seen to be unfit for purpose and may account for the catastrophic and consistent failure of the party in domestic elections.

Timeline: The rise and troubles of Lincolnshire UKIP

From winning their first ever 16 seats on Lincolnshire County Council in May, UKIP in Lincolnshire had to deal with racism allegations and suspensions, leading up to the party losing its official opposition status after six councillors split from the party in September. How did it get to this point?

May 3, 2013: UKIP win their first 16 seats for councillors on Lincolnshire County Council in the local elections, as Conservatives lost overall control after winning just 36 seats and Labour won 12 seats. The turnout was just 29% county-wide. In Lincoln the turnout was even lower at 26%.

May 9, 2013: Conservative County Council leader Martin Hill agrees on a coalition to maintain control with Liberal Democrats Reg Shore, John Marriot and Pat O’Connor, and Independents Chris Brewis, Bill Aron and Angela Newton.

May 10, 2013: Chris Pain, UKIP’s East Midlands regional chairman and Wainfleet and Burgh councillor, is voted by fellow party members as the leader of UKIP on Lincolnshire County Council. He nominates Robin Hunter-Clarke and Victoria Ayling as his deputy leaders. UKIP become the second largest group on the council, the majority opposition.

UKIP Councillor Chris Pain. Photo: Steve Smailes for The Lincolnite
UKIP Councillor Chris Pain. Photo: Steve Smailes for The Lincolnite

May 11, 2013: Chris Pain confidently says he will stand for MP at the next general election for Boston and Skegness against Conservative MP Mark Simmonds, squashing rumours that UKIP leader Nigel Farage will stand there given the party’s success in the area.

May 17, 2013: All 16 UKIP councillors refuse to sign an anti-racism declaration at the County Council annual meeting. The document is meant to ensure all Lincolnshire residents are treated equality and have access to the same services. The motion is passed by 60 other councillors.

May 23, 2013: Lincolnshire Police begin investigating claims that racist comments were posted on the Facebook pages of UKIP Lincolnshire leader Chris Pain and two other UKIP councillors, Alan Jesson and Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright. All three strongly denied making the comments and Chris Pain said his account had been hacked. The issue was brought to police attention by someone from the County Council.

June 4, 2013: Chris Pain is forced to step down from his East Midlands regional chairman role over the alleged racist comments posted on Facebook. UKIP’s National Executive Committee (NEC) said it was holding its judgement on until police complete their investigation. Chris Pain remains leader of the UKIP group on the County Council.

June 12, 2013: Chris Pain insists sanctions imposed on him by UKIP are just a formality while he clears his name and says he submitted an application to stand as an MEP representing the party in next year’s European election.

July 31, 2013: Chris Pain confirms his deputies Victoria Ayling and Robin Hunter-Clarke have been stripped of their roles in the party on the County Council. Councillor Ayling says “There are question marks over the process taken with this,” and that UKIP are investigating the matter. Tattershall Castle Councillor Colin Mair becomes the new deputy.

UKIP Councillor Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright
UKIP Councillor Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright

September 5, 2013: Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright gains the Fenside seat for UKIP on Boston Borough Council with 162 votes. The by-election was called after English Democrats Councillor Eliott Fountain was ousted for not attending any council meetings for over six months.

September 6, 2013: Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright, and Bob McAuley, elected at a by-election in May, form a UKIP group on Boston Borough Council. Former Independent McAuley stood as a UKIP candidate in a by-election in the Staniland South ward following the death of Conservative councillor Paul Mould. He is leader of the new UKIP group with Keywood-Wainwright as deputy leader. These are the first two UKIP seats on Boston Borough Council.

September 9, 2013: Lincolnshire Police drop their investigation into the alleged racist comments from Chris Pain and two other UKIP Lincolnshire councillors. Police say there is a possibility the councillors’ Facebook accounts were hacked, but there was not enough evidence to trace whoever posted the comments. “Fictional police and CSI shows often depict investigations where information in cyberspace can be traced instantly, but the reality is very different,” the force says.

September 10, 2013: Chris Pain is suspended as UKIP leader on the County Council under the emergency powers of the chairman of UKIP, after he wrote a complaint against UKIP national chairman Steve Crowther, which might be subject of legal action. A disciplinary committee will be sitting within the next 10 days for Chris Pain. Deputy Colin Mair is appointed as acting UKIP leader in Lincolnshire.

September 11, 2013: A majority of Lincolnshire UKIP councillors sign a letter of no confidence to County Council chief executive Tony McArdle. With majority written support from his group, Colin Mair takes over as UKIP leader on the council on a temporary basis until a formal election is held. Pain remains a councillor for Wainfleet and Burgh.

September 12, 2013: Chris Pain forms a breakaway group from UKIP, called UKIP Lincolnshire, along with councillor Alan Jesson.

September 13, 2013: Councillors Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright, Richard Fairman, Bob McAuley and John Beaver also join the breakaway UKIP Lincolnshire group, which has in total six seats. UKIP are demoted from the majority opposition on Lincolnshire County Council with only 10 seats left. Labour form the official opposition with 12 of 77 seats in total.

September 18, 2013: Chris Pain is removed from UKIP following a meeting of the party’s emergency disciplinary committee.

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“Yet more signs of the stranglehold the current “management” and their appointed cronies are imploding the party from within. UAF reigns supreme. The current “leadership” – and I don’t necessarily mean Farage – is engaged in creating positions for its like minded cronies who make the jibes about UKIP being “far right” look ridiculous.Democracy no longer exists within UKIP. If these people don’t like you, they get rid or make your life a nightmare by using their UAF pals who infest Facebook and Twitter to hack and clone your account – then make up vicious lies about you. There are uneasy allegiances with a group of nutters who go by the name of “EDLnews” – and they are not EDL, they are solely engaged with “outing” people they THINK are ex EDL and BNP, currently proscribed under the party’s constitution. Of course these numpties usually get it all wrong but it just suits their purpose anyway.Wait till the REAL truth comes out soon. Some much less than squeaky clean types – and they are definitely NOT right wingers. Worse still, THEY are the ones making up lies about everyone else to cover their own tracks.”
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    I was one of those that UKIP clearly “didn’t like” and “didn’t fit the mold” when i ran as a candidate in the CC elections in East Sussex last May…

UKIP management’s cronies hacked in to my Facebook account (allegedly), created a ghost or clone account using my name, photograph and my email to access my main account…
wrote a whole load of anti semitic rubbish in my name which no thanks to their useless press department, resulted in a nationwide indeed, world wide negative press campaign against me which has carried on over many months.

The last publication that i am aware of, with negative comments related to myself was just a month ago in The Sunday Times!

They deliberately tried to wreck my reputation and standing in the community and possibly make me a target of extremists who assumed (wrongly) that i am anti semitic and a crazed conspiracy theorist…
they then, suspended me.

It was a vicious, nasty, reckless and dangerous attempt to discredit me. It was a difficult time but, i weathered it and held my head high.

I still ran in the CC Elections and indeed my colleague and i did incredibly well. Why?
Because the local community and indeed UKIP branch members didn’t for one minute believe the negative publicity cooked up by these vicious but incredibly ambitious thugs within UKIP… Shameful.

I have since resigned from UKIP and am convinced that UKIPs upper management were behind this witch hunt.
There is no way that UKIP are committed to free speech or democracy.
I believe they are just another right wing controlled opposition party who are supporting and abetting the establishment’s agenda.

Some of grassroots remain in denial but, when the truth comes out and it will, they are in for an unpleasant awakening when they realise they have all been well and truly used.. and conned.

There is no loyalty within UKIP, no respect and no thanks for hard work or loyal support by its members, candidates and councillors… in fact, from what i have witnessed first hand, grassroots are lucky to receive so much as the crumbs from management’s table.
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    Claire Khaw · Top Commenter · Satirist at Political Entertainment
    Anna-Marie Crampton The trouble is that all members of all parties are routinely exploited and abused.
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Good luck to Chris, always hard working, upfront and instantly likeable.
Much to his credit..it’s also helped in his downfall.
His only handicap as far as I see it is that he was too popular!
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The story told, of her experiences, by Anna-Marie Crampton seems to be replicated by that of Gabi Coleman, whose story is,, told elsewhere on this web blog!

The incompetence of UKIP leadership and the internicine squabbling amongst the claque is further displayed by the fact that their misshandling of the squabbling has now spilled into all areas of the press & media as with this article from The BBC:

Lincolnshire UKIP councillor Chris Pain expelled from party

Councillor Chris Pain Chris Pain was elected to Lincolnshire County Council in May along with 15 other UKIP councillors

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The former leader of UKIP on Lincolnshire County Council has been expelled from the party.

Councillor Chris Pain was removed following a hearing in front of a UKIP: disciplinary panel in London.

Details of the reasons for his expulsion have not been disclosed, but Mr Pain said he was in dispute with party chairman Steve Crowther.

Mr Pain said he “feels sickened” at the way he has been treated and planned to appeal against the decision.

‘Dynamite to crack walnut’ Mr Pain, a councillor for Wainfleet and Burgh, said: “After nine years of hard work, and achieving some of the best results in the history of the party, they are throwing me out.

“It seems like they’ve used a stick of dynamite to crack a walnut.”

He added: “I’ve always thought the party was just and fair – but this raises some grave concerns about the leadership.”

UKIP is yet to comment on the decision to remove Mr Pain.

The party gained 16 seats on Lincolnshire County Council in May, causing the Conservatives to lose overall control and form a coalition with the Liberal Democrats and several independents.

Earlier this month, following suspension by the party, Mr Pain was removed as leader of the group on the county council.

He then formed a breakaway group with five other members under the banner of “UKIP Lincolnshire”.

Councillor Colin Mair, who represents Tattershall Castle, was appointed acting leader in the county.

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What Excuse Will UKIP Use Next to Suspend Chris Pain?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/09/2013

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itg is interesting to note that only aday or so after this website informed readers that C hris pain was no longer under investigation by the police with regard to racist comments on his facebook site that having been suspended whilst the investigation was underway he was now being suspended for an entirely different reason!

This does seem to add much credibility to the MP3 recording of the conversation between the resigned CEO of UKIP Will Gilpin & Chris Pain, the text of which was published on this blog CLICK HERE.

So it seems that UKIP’s leadership have changed their story and original excuse for suspending Chris Pain from his web comments to the later version, which endorses the MP3 comments of Will Gil;pin, and cites a fall out with Nigel Farage’s placeman Steve Crowther!

Can you imagine what a ghastly place britain would be to live in if UKIP ever gained real power – endless posturing and witch hunts as its various petty luminaries vied for attention and status on the gravy train, at the expense of democracy and morality and in denial of ethics and principles!

Little wonder so many of their more odious supporters are too ashamed to use their real names and hide behind anonimity and foolish names to peddle their filth, their racism, their anti homosexuality and their vile prejudices.

In fact although UKIP is more of a centralised cult than a party and Nigel Farage is their only perfgormer of any merit, as shown by his efforts in the EU Parliament where he sings most ably in return for his luxury seat on the gravy tyrain as shown by:
CLICK HERE and also HERE

It is unfortunate that so very very few ever watch or listen to Nigel Farage;s more competent speeches and it is clear that UKIP, for all its huff and puff is little more than a one man band when it comes to decision making the centralisation of authoritarian control and the delivery of anything passing for a competent speech.

Imagine how much UKIP could have achieved if it had put a fraction of its energy into silencing its odious and self serving staff and the claque who make such fools of themselves and the party on the internet so damagingly and had for the last 20 years concentrated on training a team of well informed spokesmen to show the benefits for Britain when we Leave-The-EU and seeking to show in every town, city and county council just how every item of consequential policy and expenditure and every petty fogging bit of regulation was a matter controlled without democratic imput of any meaningful degree in the centralised EU bureaucracy!

As it is, due to apauling leadership and a total lack of training, gravitas, a plan, strategy, tactics or even a clear Exit & Survival Strategy to Leave-The_EU – they have due to this a 20 year track record of abject failure in domestic politics and even now as they pander to the lowest common denominator of populism exploiting racism, immigration, xenophobia and anti homosexuality they have still failed to get anywhere near getting an MP elected and have a risible 140 or so elected Councillors out of some 8,000 available seats!

UKIP under its p[resent leadership and structure is beyond any doubt amongst the informed – UNFIT FOR PURPOSE to lead Britain to Leave-The-EU.

One performing monkey, performing mostly in obscurity clearly does little to Leave-The-EU without a competent organ grinder the organ itself lies trashed in the gutter as tyhe higher up the tree the monkey climbs the more you see its @rse – as has been shown by the welter of bad publicity the cult itself has received!

Lincolnshire UKIP councillor Chris Pain removed as group leader

Councillor Chris Pain
Chris Pain was elected to Lincolnshire County Council in May along with 15 other UKIP councillors

A councillor suspended by UKIP has been removed as leader of the party’s group on Lincolnshire County Council.

Chris Pain said he had been suspended from UKIP because of a “serious issue” between himself and national chairman Steve Crowther.

Nine of Lincolnshire’s UKIP councillors have now signed a letter to the county council’s chief executive saying Mr Pain has been removed from their group.

A national UKIP spokesman would not comment on why he had been suspended.

He said: “Chris Pain has been suspended under the emergency powers of the chairman of UKIP.

“It would be wrong and unfair to say anything more about the case before the committee has heard the evidence against Mr Pain and his defence.”

UKIP gained 16 seats on Lincolnshire County Council in May, causing the Conservatives to lose overall control and form a coalition with the Liberal Democrats and several Independents.

Racism allegations Mr Pain continues to be a councillor for Wainfleet and Burgh, and he told BBC Radio Lincolnshire “there is no way I would desert the voters”.

“I put a complaint against UKIP national chairman Steve Crowther which might be subject of legal action and I can’t discuss that any further at the moment,” he said.

“It’s just a serious issue between myself and Steve Crowther.”

Councillor Colin Mair, who represents Tattershall Castle, has been appointed acting UKIP leader in Lincolnshire.

Mr Pain was investigated by Lincolnshire Police for alleged racist remarks posted on Facebook, but police said on Monday no action would be taken against him.

Tony McArdle, chief executive of Lincolnshire County Council, said: “We have today received notification from a majority of the members of the UKIP group to the effect that Councillor Chris Pain is not now a member of that group and consequently not its leader.

“As from today, Councillor Colin Mair will be acting as leader of the UKIP group.”

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Chris Pain Cleared by Police, what now for UKIP?

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Chris Pain Cleared by Police of racism, what now for UKIP and particularly the centralised power of their risible claims to be Libertarian? This should leave Steve Crowther & Nigel Farage in some embarrassment at their rapid willingness to exploit the situation to suit their own ends!!

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in the light of the MP3 phone recording of facts relative to UKIP leadership’s actions in blocking & barring Chris Pain, as reported on this web log, this police outcome would seem to leave UKIP leadership in some difficulty particularly Steve Crowther and his puppet master Nigel Farage.

This exacerbates the very real cause for embarrassment surrounding the rigging of selection processes!

Police to take ‘no further action’ over UKIP racism allegations

Chris Pain

Chris Pain

Lincolnshire Police say there will be ‘no further action’ taken against members of UKIP that were accused of making racist posts on the internet.

Officers have been carrying out investigations in the past few months into members of UKIP, including county leader Chris Pain.

The allegations included complaints that they posted comments, including those of a racist nature, on to social media sites, such as Facebook, and ‘caused or reinforced racial hatred’.

Coun Pain won the Wainfleet and Burgh ward at May’s Lincolnshire County Council elections and leads the UKIP opposition group. He will stand to try to become Boston and Skegness MP at the 2015 General Election.

He and Boston North councillor Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright were accused by campaign group Hope Not Hate of posting ‘racist rants’.

Although the investigation largely centred on alleged posts made by Coun Pain, The Standard understands material from Coun Keywood-Wainwright – who won a by-election in Fenside last week – was also looked at.

A senior detective has reviewed the evidence and decided that no further action will be taken by police against either Mr Pain or the other UKIP members accused.

A spokesman said: “Lincolnshire Police take all allegations of hate crime extremely seriously and, where appropriate, will refer these matters to the Crown Prosecution Service, who, in our experience, take an equally serious stance.

“Police are reliant on there being a sufficient amount of evidence, of a quality which would support a decision to prosecute anyone suspected of carrying out crimes of this nature.

“When dealing with internet based activity there has to be an audit trail which enables us to prove the person who is suspected of displaying information on the Web is actually the person pressing the computer keys.

“There are many factors which make such an investigation very complex. Officers must work with the powers granted under specific legislation and, where the servers and the administration of the sites falls outside the United Kingdom, the police and other enforcement agencies are often unable to obtain the relevant information needed to prove who placed comments or information on one of the sites. This is particularly the case with the main social media sites, such as Twitter and Facebook.

“In the world of increasingly technical equipment and expertise, it is always possible for false profiles to be created and information to be posted on a user’s account without their knowledge.

“In such cases, it is very difficult for police to trace the origins of the information and to be sufficiently certaint that the person alleged to be displaying some comment or information actually did so.”

Lincolnshire Police DI Andy Wardell said: “This problem is exacerbated when the social network account is closed by an individual who has either become aware or is directly made aware by someone that comments have been seen and the informant is going to contact the police.

“Fictional police and CSI shows often depict investigations where information in cyber space can be traced instantly but the reality is very different.

“Therefore, if any person discovers information displayed or comments posted to social networking sites which they feel are racist ,or made with the intent of stirring up racism, they should inform the police immediately and not post responses or enter into dialect with the individual believed to have made such racist comments.

“Doing so will inevitably result in the comments being removed and the account closed making it impossible to achieve a satisfactory result with any investigation.”

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Chris PAIN & UKIP’s Dilema Based on Racist Track Record!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 23/05/2013

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Chris PAIN & UKIP’s Dilema Based on Both His & UKIP’s Apparent Racist Track Record!
That UKIP Chooses to be allied and support racist bigots and extremists as partners leaves them absolutely no plausible way to deny their racist extremism!!

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having started a thread on a Forum regarding UKIP NEC member and recently elected Councillor Chris PainBarbara Booker’s comments:

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Under the headline ‘Racist rants of the UKIP councillors’, the Sunday Mirror writes:

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Ukip’s Chris Pain, leader of the opposition at Lincs Council and the party’s East Midlands regional chairman, wrote: “Have you noticed that if you *rearrange the letters in ‘illegal *immigrants’, and add just a few more letters, it spells, ‘Go home you free-loading, benefit-grabbing, resource-sucking, baby-making, non-English-speaking ********* and take those other hairy-faced, sandal-wearing, bomb-making, camel-riding, goat-********, raghead ******** with you.’”

Mr Pain said the comments on his Facebook pages were “not my original posts or writings”, claiming his *account had been hacked.

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What exactly is Chris Pain saying? The so-called joke about rearranging the letters of the words ‘illegal immigrants’ has been around for several years, so the question is not whether it originated from him but whether he has ever posted it to Facebook? Or is he claiming that someone else, having “hacked” his account, posted it to his Facebook page without his knowledge or consent?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news…s-more-1897414


This gave rise to the following response from ex UKIP NEC member Ian Gillman who resigned from the NEC as her was unwilling to be party to the corruption, oaffish behaviour and risk of joint and several liability in the risk of stolen public money and abuse, foul language, lies and bullying!:

22-May-2013
Yesterday, 10:59 AM #42

Ian Gillman

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Barboo in # 1 above kindly draws to our attention to alledged writings by UKIP Councillor, Mr Chris Pain of Skegness who also appears to be the East Midlands Regional Chairman and an N.E.C. member.

Mr Pain, it appears; claims that it is ” not my original posts or writings “.

Certain very nasty e-mails written by Mr Pain with numerous contact details for him provided, are in circulation, wherein he denigrates a range of persons. They are all destined for ‘Junius’ as explained and urged by Mr Pain.
There does appear to be a parallel here.

Interestingly a Mr Gwain Towler who is a UKIP paid official I think put out a public statement about certain matters ,appears within one of those nasty e-mails written by Chris Pain. He was certainly given the special Pain treatment, as was Derek Clark MEP, whilst Mr Nigel Farage was described as watching Mr Pain and his activities very closely as Mr Pain describes his intent to deceive.

It does appear that a discliplinary case file that has already been prepared for Mr Pain will have even more to consider now.

Or, would Mr Pain like to deny herein writing nasty e-mails and circulating them ?

Mr Pain sought legal advice from a Mr Don Ransome, the East Midlands Regional Organiser/Press Officer.
Mr Ransome is not qualified to offer legal advice , but never mind that, he offered it.

Would it not be best for Mr Pain to resign as a County Councillor, Regional Chairman , NEC member and from UKIP itself ?
Then, he should write a sincerely apologetic letter to Mr Anthony Ellwood the 15 year serving treasurer ( including a short spell as national treasurer during an interregnum) who during an attempt to reconcile the national accounts uncovered 95% and perhaps even more movements from the account as conversions into cash that went to unknown places. ?
Mr Pain has ( along with his friend Mr Ransome) treated Mr Ellwood shoddily, denigrating him . For what reason we can but ask ?

Gillman’s somewhat obsessive and tediouson the public forum were I gather, seen as libellous as he could not supply the provenance he claimed he had and would not retract his claims relative to Chris Pain!

This led, I had believed, to a lifetime ban for Gillman, though it seems he is still posting as at 22-May!

Also having made a perfectly civil and proper posting in a Private Message to on of the moderators which read as follows:

Quote Originally Posted by Geoffrey Collier
Dear Mr Allen,

You told me originally that my request would be forwarded to Anthony Butcher, while now you seem to have decided the matter yourself. I have just finished a telephone conversation with a barrister who knows much about UKIP, and she said that you cannot deliberately destroy published information, or deny a harmed party access to it for their legal purposes. You are certainly doing the latter of those things. Are you saying quite categorically that Mr Butcher has made this decison, and you are merely communicationg it to me?

If you believe that I have lied on the thread, which I certainly dispute, would you like to identify those lies, and confirm that you are permitted to punish me in the way that you have decided? Mr Fear made a statement on the thread which was wholly false. He seems unable to identify any supporting evidence on Junius. Your claim that I have a history of obfuscation, dishonesty and lying, yet I claim that is untrue, and I have not even a ‘parking ticket’ to blemish my good name. Yours is not a fair description of my reputation. You are protecting Mr Pain, an NEC member, who has used information gleaned by two UKIP employees in the course of their employment, to harm others. There can be no doubt about that.

I get the impression that you are deliberatlely protecting Mr Pain for reasons which have little to do with the interests of BDF. I would like the precise name of the person who finally decides to obstruct my request, if that is what they choose to do. Could I also have the legal status of the BDF; private limited company, etc.
Should it make things easier for you, can we ignore Mr Gillman’s postings, and confine ourselves to those affecting me, and my other witness Mr Ellwood? (1) Mr Fear’s original statement. (2) Mr Pain’s #373 and the ones involving the UKIP HQ manager. (3) Mr Ransome’s statement. If protecting named persons from libellous statements is important to you, I am sure that you will welcome my request.

Geoffrey Collier.


It is self evident that this eMail is at no stage any kind of threat against the Forum but rather a friendly warning from a long term and trustworthy member of both UKIP and the Forum, which UKIP has from time to time had totally dishonest co0ntrol over through, amongst others, the weak, self serving, dishonest and dublicitous Anthony Butcher who has proved time and again to be untrustworthy and only too willing to provide a platform for dishonesty and lies, abuse and libellous fantasies, as long as it suits UKIP and himself.

It is, in my opinion, dishonestly claimed that Geoffrey Collier, in giving friendly advice privately to a moderator has in some way threatened the forum and this has been at best misguidedly but based upon the Forum track record, more likely, dishonestly used to gag a critic of the corruption in UKIP – Geoffrey Collier has been dishonestly banned from posting on the forum for life (as was I( for having made a statement of FACT and provided provenance of the fact!).

Barbara Booker has gone on helpfully to plead Geoffrey’s case as has Niall Warry, another unstinting campaigner for probity, transparency and an end to corruption in UKIP to make it fit for purpose – not just as a one man band being exploited for the benefit of a small clique and supported by their corrupt claque!

Barbara Booker has summarised various facts, pertaining to Chris Pain and his apparent racist outbursts, as follows:

Be careful what you wish for!

The Skegness Standard reported on 20 May:

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UKIP has said it will be forced to eject the party’s newly elected Lincolnshire group leader if allegations he has made ‘racist rants’ on Facebook prove true. Party spokesman Gawain Towler said: “They are serious allegations and if proven true there is no way Chris Pain could remain a councillor with UKIP. However we don’t hang a man until he’s proven guilty and at the moment Chris is saying that his account was hacked.”
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http://www.skegnessstandard.co.uk/ne…ions-1-5108055

If UKIP decides that Chris Pain’s Facebook account was indeed hacked as he says (and it’s now also being claimed on the ‘Lincoln immigration issues’ site that it too has been hacked), then someone will have to explain why he allowed potentially damaging posts that he didn’t make to remain in place for so many months. If, on the other hand, UKIP decides that he did make the posts himself, and takes action against him as suggested by Gawain Towler, then it will only succeed in making UKIP a political laughing stock. Consider these facts:

Despite the impression created by the Sunday Mirror, which described the ‘illegal immigrants’ post as being among “racist rants of the UKIP councillors”, and Hope not Hate which calls it “the most disgusting racist outburst”, Chris Pain was not the author of the piece. It’s a supposed joke which seems to have originated in America in about 2009 and turns up, with slight variations, on numerous websites in the USA, Australia and here. The Chris Pain version is similar to that found on:
http://myrightwingdad.blogspot.co.uk…-lesson-i.html

‘Asylum’, which also appeared on Chris Pain’s Facebook in August 2012, dates back to at least 2001:
http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/1140…cil-house.html

So, if UKIP decides that Chris Pain did post these items, he will be guilty not of having written them himself but of having forwarded them from elsewhere on the internet.

Those with long enough memories may recall an almost identical case in 2006 when a town councillor from Calne in Wiltshire, Conservative Ellie Bland, was suspended by her party for circulating an email containing the ‘Illegal Immigrants Poem’. She told the Wiltshire Gazette & Herald: “The e-mail is a joke email . . . . I didn’t write it I just forwarded it”, though later claiming that “someone else” had sent the email from her address.
http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/ne…racist_e_mail/

Contrast Gawain Towler’s statement above about Chris Pain, with UKIP’s reaction to Cllr Bland and her ‘racist email’. Two months after the story broke, Bland resigned from the Conservatives and was welcomed into UKIP, visited by Nigel Farage, and selected as UKIP candidate for the district council elections. “The support I’m getting is absolutely wonderful”, she gushed, “It’s heart-warming to know a leader will come and visit. If I ring him he answers the phone, talks to me. With David Cameron you could go to a meeting and be lucky to get him to shake your hand.”
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/n…fects_to_UKIP/

UKIP put out an enthusiastic statement, ‘Then there were four’ (26.1.07): “Graham Booth the local MEP said, This is brilliant news”, and even Nigel Farage’s assistant, Annabelle Fuller, had a dig at the LibDems over it on her blog (29.4.2007): “This is the party who caused a huge lot of bother for Councillor Ellie Bland when her husband forwarded an e-mail which was, I think, rather amusing, and accused her of being a ‘racist’.”
http://more-to-life-than-shoes.blogs…1_archive.html

UKIP cannot, in all seriousness, now turn against Chris Pain for exactly the same behaviour as resulted in Ellie Bland’s joining them and receiving such a joyful welcome!

Chris Pain does little to help himself and continue wityh outspoken racist views and values that lead one to believe he is just the sort of individual who would have made the comments on Facebook etc but has actually invoked not just the name of UKIP but his position of responsibility on behalf of UKIP and particularly its electorate in Lincolnshire, as the following article shows:

UKIP members of Lincolnshire County Council refuse to back anti-racism pledge

Friday, May 17, 2013

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All 16 UKIP councillors on Lincolnshire County Council have refused to sign an anti-racism declaration.

Labour’s Rob Parker presented the document to ensure all Lincolnshire residents are treated equality and have access to the same services.

But Chris Pain, leader of the county council’s UKIP group, the official opposition, told today’s annual meeting of the council: “I cannot support this document.

“It actually pushes forward the chance of multiculturalism, one of the fundamental things that’s wrong with our society.

“UKIP’s stance is not racist.

“Our stance is on space and space alone.”

The motion was passed by 60 councillors who voted for it, with 16 abstentions from UKIP.

The party’s own motion to reduce the council newspaper County News to a single yearly issue to cut costsfailed.

Cllr Pain had earlier pressed the council to reduce the amount of money spent on translators in Lincolnshire.

Saxilby ward member Councillor Jackie Brockway, Conservative, said: “I’m very concerned that there’s a theme developing that seems to be attacking the vulnerable and we need to careful about that.”

Cllr Hill said costs had already reduced from £54,000 to £43,000 and that translators performimportant roles in schools and law courts.

Liberal Democrat John Marriott said: “I would hope our colleagues from UKIP come up with some more practical solutionsas to how local government will survive.”

The meeting officially saw council leader Cllr Hill, his executive and committee heads appointed.

After last month’s election, the Conservatives lost overall control. Thirty-six Tories are now in a coalition with three independents and three Lib Dems.

UKIP has 16 seats, there are seven independents in opposition and 12 Labour councilors.

To view the original article CLICK HERE

Barbara Booker recently also pointed out:
Chris Pain has told the Boston Standard (20.5.13): 

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Coun Pain told The Standard that his account had been hacked and that he had not made the post himself. He said he does not agree with the words written and would never use them himself.
He told The Standard: “At the moment I am changing passwords like crazy and putting locks on.”

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http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/news…cist-1-5109070


What I do not at all understand is, since the post in question was apparently made on 4 November 2012, see http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013…?utm_hp_ref=uk , why Chris Pain didn’t remove it and take action to safeguard his facebook account straight away? Why wait until now, when a post made in his name by someone else has been splashed all over the Sunday Mirror, before changing passwords and putting locks on?

Likewise with the earlier ‘asylum’ post, made 13 August 2012. 

Was he the victim of yet another hacker with that one?
I trust that helps to pull together some of the strands in this ongoing saga regarding UKIP Racism and the part in it which UKIP NEC member and former assistant to UKIP PPC Dick Horsnell from the Isle of Man, who laid the groundwork for much of UKIP’s achievements in the area with his substantial capital injection and committed campaigning via market stalls and carrier bags etc.
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