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Nigel Farage Has Yet More Trouble With His Nut(s)

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January has notoriously been a slow news month for Farage, as all who have followed him over the years will have noted!

Minded that Nigel Farage, like all other MEPs, has secure parking designated under the EU Parliament building, which rather damages the credibility of this story!

Parking with full security and camera surveillance in central Brussels, one is forced to wonder why the matter was not immediately reported to the relevant authorities, in a responsible manner – so that any alleged criminal miscreant could be apprehended.

It is also interesting that even the press report points out that if wheel nuts are slackened, driving at speed will rapidly loosen them – the last time it happened to me, when my garage failed to tighten the nuts on the front nearside wheel I had driven some 6 miles at 50 or below when the wheel flew off and the vehicle came to a rapid halt.

Fortunately losing a rear wheel does not effect the steering and when it comes off it is just as if you have dropped anchor as the vehicle rapidly halts as the brake drum/Disk gouges into the tarmac. The vehicle does not ‘fishtail’ leaving the only fishy tales those in print!

The last time the nuts on all 4 wheels were left loose, on a vehicle I picked up from the garage, I was aware of it after about 4 miles and I stopped the vehicle rather than risk losing a wheel or injuring anyone – I blocked the main road out of Inverness to Dingwall for about an hour!

I also note the media quote a Police Officer regarding the fact that it was deliberate loosening on all 4 wheels – is this hearsay or did they contact the officer at the scene and if so why did he not act responsibly and acquit his duty by investigating, what he believed to be a crime!!

The journey from Brussels to the tunnel is approximately 125 miles where the first 85 are in Belgium, before crossing into France – almost all the way it is on high speed motorways, where EU MEPs are exempt from speeding fines!

I believe there is much more to this ‘story’ than meets the eye!

That said may I hasten to add that I can vouch for the fact that neither I nor John West, Jasna Badzak, Nikki Sinclaire, Richard Suchorzewski, David Noakes nor Niall Warry were in either Belgium or France during October!

I expect all those listed at CLICK HERE can provide more than edequate alibis for any date Farage wishes to claim!

Nigel Farage’s car wheels ‘were sabotaged in an assassination attempt’:
Ukip leader lost control of Volvo when wheel fell off on motorway… and police confirm foul play

  • Ukip leader careered off French road after a wheel on his Volvo came loose
  • Police told Farage all the vehicle’s wheels had been deliberately unscrewed
  • He was forced to jump over the road barrier to escape the speeding lorries
  • Farage has received death threats during his tumultuous time as Ukip head

By GLEN OWEN POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT

22:00, 2 January 2016

UPDATED: 00:13, 3 January 2016

Nigel Farage fears he has been the victim of an assassination attempt after his car was sabotaged, causing a terrifying motorway crash.
The Ukip leader careered off a French road after a wheel on his Volvo came loose while he was driving from Brussels back to his home in Kent.
When the police arrived at the scene, they told him that the nuts on all of the wheels had been deliberately unscrewed, The Mail on Sunday has established.

'Target': Nigel Farage claims he was the victim of an assassination attempt, after he careered off a French road when a wheel on his Volvo came loose while he was driving back to his home in Kent (pictured)
‘Target’: Nigel Farage claims he was the victim of an assassination attempt, after he careered off a French road when a wheel on his Volvo came loose while he was driving back to his home in Kent (pictured)

‘Target’: Nigel Farage claims he was the victim of an assassination attempt, after he careered off a French road when a wheel on his Volvo came loose while he was driving back to his home in Kent (pictured)
Mr Farage, who has received death threats during his tumultuous time as leader, last night spoke about the ‘frightening’ incident, which took place near Dunkirk.
‘It was the middle of bloody nowhere, and I was caught in a very bad position,’ he said. ‘There was a huge section of roadworks with cars going back and forth on the same side of the carriageway. I suddenly realised I was losing steering but there was no hard shoulder to pull on to. I slowed down, put the hazards on and then one of the wheels came off. I jumped over the wall as quickly as I bloody well could to get away from lorries and everything.’

When the emergency services arrived, they told a shaken Mr Farage that he had been the victim of a malicious act. ‘The French police looked at it and said that sometimes nuts on one wheel can come a bit loose – but not on all four,’ Mr Farage said.
When he was asked who he thought might have been responsible, Mr Farage replied: ‘I haven’t got a clue. Quite frankly, the way my life’s been over the past two-and-a-half years, nothing surprises me.’
Quite frankly, the way my life’s been over the past two-and-a-half years, nothing surprises me.
Ukip leader Nigel Farage
The crash, which took place in daylight at the end of October, has been kept under wraps by Mr Farage until now. He agreed to talk about it this weekend after being contacted by this newspaper.
Mr Farage’s Volvo V70 comes with a single locking nut on each wheel, which should be immune from interference. But if the other four nuts are loosened, then the remaining one is likely to sheer off as soon as the car is travelling at speed.
The Ukip leader has been embroiled in a series of poisonous feuds within his party over recent years, both in London and in the European Parliament, where he sits as an MEP.
The Parliament splits its operations between the Belgian capital Brussels and the French city of Strasbourg. Mr Farage frequently drives himself to his offices in the parliament buildings from Kent because he says it is the easiest way to juggle his ‘mad’ schedule. For security reasons, Mr Farage would not say where he parks his vehicle in Brussels.


Getaway: Mr Farage was forced to leap over the barrier of the motorway near Dunkirk to escape from speeding lorries, as pictured in this reconstruction

Malicious: The Ukip leader has received previous death threats during his time at the head of the party
Malicious: The Ukip leader has received previous death threats during his time at the head of the party

Malicious: The Ukip leader has received previous death threats during his time at the head of the party
UKIP’s Farage slams Hollande & Merkel in EU Parliament speech
>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3382294/Nigel-Farage-s-car-wheels-sabotaged-assassination-attempt-Ukip-leader-lost-control-Volvo-wheel-fell-motorway-police-confirm-foul-play.html#v-2738344123642393072<&lt;
Mr Farage said he had not asked police to pursue the investigation because he didn’t want to ‘make anything of it’. When asked if he had received death threats, Mr Farage said: ‘Of course. It’s not a particularly easy game, this.’
He added: ‘The French police and mechanics looked at it but I have made no formal report in this country. The mechanics were absolutely certain of [foul play] but I have decided to take no further action.’
Mr Farage has endured a torrid time recently, with senior Ukip figures expressing concern that the party is losing momentum in the wake of its disappointing Election result, when it won only Douglas Carswell’s Clacton seat. Last month, Mr Carswell said the party needed a ‘fresh face’ as leader – only to be told to ‘put up or shut up’ by Mr Farage.
Last night, Eric Fouard, the prosecutor for Dunkirk, said he was not aware of any investigation into the accident involving Mr Farage.

 

No wonder he’s considering a TV career move…

The Ukip leader is considering a new career as a television presenter if he leaves politics after the EU referendum.

Mr Farage has been involved in discussions with production companies about fronting a three-part series on military strategy, including a history of the First World War. News of Mr Farage’s talks has been spread with glee by his growing number of critics in the party, who argue that Ukip needs a fresh leader to reinvigorate it.
Last night, a spokesman for Mr Farage said that the idea of him fronting programmes had been ‘bubbling away’ since early last year – when the TV companies were first contacted – but no deals had yet been struck.
Last night, ex-Ukip MEP Godfrey Bloom, who once shared a flat with Mr Farage in Brussels, said he could see why the party leader would be interested in presenting a military history series.
Mr Bloom said: ‘We have done military tours together. Nigel is a very good raconteur, “Corporal Snoops manning the machine-gun at the bridge… here’s the spot he won his VC”, that sort of thing.’
A spokesman for Mr Farage said: ‘The TV thing is an idea that has been bubbling away for a while. He’d be bloody good at it – and it was discussed last year. But no deal has been done.’

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I note with interest that when I wrote about this ‘story’ I had read no other article or opinion yet made it abundantly clear that I found it implausible – I understand the Dunkirk police have now issued a statement that effectively there was no such incident to investigate.

 

Remember what happened to Vikki Price and her husband when they colluded to invent a ‘story’ regarding a motoring incident!

May I also remind readers that Nigel Farage ‘Claims’ he was in a contra flow system due to roadworks!
This would have meant that firstly he was driving a right hand drive Volvo V70 therefore at no time was there a need to cross the path of other vehicles as he waz\s driving on the rigjht and would have got out of his vehicle right door ajoining the barrier and merely hopped over it to safety.
Secondly his vehicle would have brought traffic to a complete standstill, until a recovery vehicle could remove the vehicle.

 

Last time this accident happened to me the front wheel ended up over 100 yards away although I was only travelling at about 40mph. and the vehicle came to a halt in a straight line although it was the front nearside wheel that flew off!

I appreciate after the many years I have followed Nigel Farage’s antics and those of his cult followers that his followers are VERY gullible – Just who would wish to see Nigel Farage dead and what motive would they have to risk issuing a death threat. Of course I appreciate that he and other Ukip MEPs would love to have body guards to gain publicity and elivate their status, but it would be a total waste of public money. It held up traffic near my house on the A48 for almost an hour before it was recovered by ny garage about one mile away!

I know Farage has claimed that he has received death threats but from whom? The EU would most clearly not wish to see him or his little group vanish as without them the EU would have to invent and establish a similar organisation of castratti to prolongue the pretence that the EU permits an opposition and is thus, in some way, democratic.

I am fairly sure that even with some of the nuts and back stabbing fantasists in Ukip, with their lies spin and lack of achievement none would be daft enough to actually contract Farage out and as for Batten’s ‘story’, in his desperation to elevate his insignificance, bouncing bricks and drug dealers chassing him was utterly without credibility – as with so much else he does!

Who for heaven’s sake would go to the lengths of removing Farage, terminally, to gain control of Ukip or the space they fill/waste.

That leaves us with just three options which are more plausible:

  • Kirsten – but that seems very unlikely as if nothing else he is a good meal ticket, is away a fair amount of the time and has for some years ensured she is well paid in a convenient non job – so let us count that out!
  • An irate or jealous male who is overly excited by his extra marital activities and other drunken antics – or for that matter a thwarted/scorned suitor.
  • Finally the only likely example of someone, with perhaps some justification, would be an over zealous patriot, who is well enough informed, to realise just how much harm his prominent presence in the Leave-The-EU campaign is likely to be to the chances of these United Kingdoms leaving the EU!
    Though I do not believe that it is anyone in the Leave-The-EU movement.

I really do not believe that Farage is remotely important enough or significant to be a target for any kind of realistic ‘Death Threat’, and as for Batten or any of the other even more insignificant Ukip MEPs to be worthy of such threats that really is too laughable for words!

UKIP ‘Furious’ After Details Of ‘Assassination Attempt’ Against Farage Leaked

UKIP leader Nigel Farage was involved in a crash on a French motorway in October after a wheel on his Volvo estate fell off, the nuts holding it in place having been deliberately loosened.

Details of a potentially fatal car crash involving Mr. Farage became public this weekend after they were leaked to the press. A UKIP insider told Breitbart London Mr. Farage is “furious” at the news of his ordeal entering the public domain, while party officials are angry at Kent police for having failed to offer him protection in line with his high profile status and the number of death threats he receives.

Mr. Farage was driving along a French motorway near Dunkirk while he was returning home from Brussels in October when a wheel came off his car, causing the vehicle to crash. Mr Farage was forced to leap over a safety barrier to avoid oncoming traffic, reports the Daily Mail. He said:

“‘It was the middle of bloody nowhere, and I was caught in a very bad position.

“There was a huge section of roadworks with cars going back and forth on the same side of the carriageway. I suddenly realised I was losing steering but there was no hard shoulder to pull on to. I slowed down, put the hazards on and then one of the wheels came off. I jumped over the wall as quickly as I bloody well could to get away from lorries and everything”.

When emergency services arrived to assist Mr. Farage, he was told by a police officer his wheel nuts had been deliberately unscrewed, suggesting the intention was to kill the UKIP leader by causing him to lose control while at high speed. Mr. Farage remarked that while police officers were used to single wheel nuts working themselves free without being noticed, for all four to do so at the same time was unheard of.

Mr. Farage would not be drawn on a likely culprit: “I haven’t got a clue. Quite frankly, the way my life’s been over the past two-and-a-half years, nothing surprises me”.

The UKIP leader had declined to speak about the incident until he was contacted by the Daily Mail newspaper after they received news of the crash from an unnamed source.

A UKIP source told Breitbart London the core UKIP leadership team who knew about the crash had “kept quiet” and the fact the incident had been leaked did nothing more but “rub salt in the wounds”.

To view the original of this article CLICK HERE

Could Nigel Farage’s fantasy spin all boil down to the fact that he never pays attention to detail and largely discounts facts and thus he completely overlooked this detail:

There is a strong possibility this pertained to Farage’s V70 and shows that this type of acccident is not uncommon – as I have shown I have had this problem, giving two instances of the 3 times it has happened to me; once when ALL the nuts were shown to be loose – accidents do happen hence the word accident and there is absolutely no reason to try to spin them to be assassination attempts, beyond of course delusion and self aggrandisement.

 

For these and other reasons I incline to the belief that Nigel Farage has spun this ‘story’ beyond plausibility, and the most likely official protection he or Batten are likely to receive are warders!

The ice is very thin around them!

That this fantasy piece was published atall reflects very badly not only on Nigel Farage, making him and his cult followers in Ukip and their obvious gullibility on Twitter look foolish – but also it was clearly utterly irresponsible of the various journalists to publish such palpable and easily checked dross!

If I can smell a rat where were the journalistic skills in the media, particularly when I was able to check my belief and show the ‘story’ just didn’t stand up on multiple counts!

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Ukip’s Near Bankruptcy All Too Understandable

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/11/2015

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Ukip’s Near Bankruptcy is All Too Understandable, when huge tranches of donor’s money goes to pay off past accrued debts and ‘indulgences’ & £Millions seemingly go missing in an atmosphere lacking in transparency and all too apparently corrupt!

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one of the most damaging problems Ukip has is its own dishonesty with comments like:
‘but our members know that without Ukip there would have been no referendum for Leave.EU to campaign in’
lies like this have cost them dearly, in terms of credibility, support and membership. It is of course a palpable distortion of facts as it was Ukip who actively campaigned against Nikki Sinclaire and supported the lies and false witness against her in a campaign of harassment supported and led by Nigel Farage, and he and Ukip senior members sought to undermine and destroy the petition which she led for an IN/OUT Referendum on membership of The EU.
Despite Ukip’s efforts and by ploughing some £60,000 of her own money into the campaign, Nikki Sinclaire and her team obtained over 220,000 signatures petitioning for a debate in Parliament – the debate which when it took place led to the largest defeat/rebellion David Cameron had experienced in The House of Commons – thus forcing him to promise an EU IN/OUT Referendum by the end of 2017.
Ukip did absolutely nothing to support the petition and thus absolutely nothing to bring about the referendum – therefore to lie so blatantly shows, together with the inept leadership that failed to understand the British First Past The Post voting system which led to a near total wipeout in the General Election and the internal wrangling and squabbling ever since.
The dishonesty of Ukip, its continued harassment of, and lies about, individuals like Nikki Sinclaire, Jasna Badzac, Dr. Richard North, Major Niall Warry rtd., Dr. Eric Edmonds, Dr. David Abbott, Richard Suchorzewski, myself and many more have not only been hugely damaging for Ukip but is likely to damage the Leave-The-EU campaign, if associated with it directly.
Ukip have created with Nigel Farage a dangerous cult in British politics and like most cults they have a minority following of blinkered and easily duped & gullible followers and the vast majority who will do all they can not to be associated with the organisation – especially with an organisation like Ukip with its palpable fear of foreigners and the inevitable hatred of muslims, as typified by their publication, their writings and their comments of the likes of Gerard Batten, one of their longest serving MEPs – comments made and published that are all too likely to incite misplaced racial hatred and intolerant prejudice.

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GP-NW: The Harrogate Agenda Feb-2015

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The Harrogate Agenda Feb-2015.

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I am republishing this on this web site as it is increasingly clear that Nigel Farage’s Ukip cult is seemingly bereft of vision, management, organisation, gravitas, intellect or even the most rudimentary of policies that are plausible, workable or retionally costed.Further let us remember that after 22 years of Ukip ‘claiming’ to wish to Leave_The_EU they still have absolutely zero ethical, honourable, workable and costed EU eXit & survival strategy and even less signs of a worked out schedule of tactics!

GP-NW: The Harrogate Agenda Feb-2015

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Guest Post – Niall Warry:
The Harrogate Agenda Feb-2015.

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The Harrogate Agenda – progress report February 2015.

Thomas Pain believed many things and high on the list was that ‘The People’ must be sovereign and that revolutions have to be led by them. This is as true now as it was in the 1700s.

So The Harrogate Agenda needs a ‘People’s Revolution’ in order for its Six Demands, for the better governance of this country, to gain traction.  It will only be when our politicians feel the pressure from the grass roots that they will start to endorse, promote and eventually, as the pressure grows, enact them.

Fortunately many of the foundations are in place, for willing people to start the work of steadily spreading our message, including our pamphlet which clearly sets out our Six Demands, and appropriate supporting DVDs and film clips.  Importantly one of the clips includes the edited film of Richard North’s Flexcit presentation, which sets out the ‘How and Why’ we should leave the EU.  It is to date the only honourable and workable exit and survival plan form the EU yet produced.

The Harrogate Agenda has always recognised that our demands can never be implemented while we are members of the political EU while accepting we should remain, for some time yet, as members of the Single Market.  Flexcit, when published, will contain a chapter on The Harrogate Agenda highlighting its real value which is that on leaving the EU and restoring our self government we will then be in a position to improve and reform our governance in line with our six demands.

Understanding that it is the system that is broken, and that no amount of effort to reform the old parties or indeed invent new ones, is going to change a thing, is something that individuals need to work out for themselves.  Sadly the evidence is that it does take time for this particular penny to drop and even when it does the next hurdle to overcome is an understanding that political change, of the sort we are advocating, takes time and a different approach from anything thus far seen or experienced.

Shortly after producing our pamphlet, (there are still some from the initial stock available to purchase) I drafted a simple plan to carry our message to the public, which involved a few early key players running regional workshops from which we would recruit ‘Ambassadors’ who would in turn run other workshops, working to a set programme which is duplicable, thus enabling the rolling stone to slowly gather more and more moss.

In truth Ambassadors have been hard to find and this is dictating the rate of our progress.  In addition to this there is currently a delay as we await the results of the General Election, to see which way the political wind is blowing in respect of the vital issue of a potential EU referendum.  If a referendum is on the cards for 2017 then our workshops will lead on Flexcit backed up by THA as a key advantage to us leaving the political EU. If not, we will reverse the order. The presentations for our workshops have already been successfully trialled so all we need now is to continue the roll out.

If this e-mail prompts anyone to considering taking our message to the grass roots then please get in touch.  However, rest assured we are not going away and will continue to make steady progress on the journey we have embarked on.  It is just that with a little more help we could go just a little bit faster.  If you can lend some assistance we will be immensely grateful.

Niall Warry

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Ukip’s Corruption Is Endemic & Hardly News!

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you will note details of corruption in Ukip and of internal rigging and dishonesty in Ukip’s internal selection and election processes that show it is endemic – you may remember the detailed example shown by the Ukip returning Officer that exposed the corruption of the process and the involvement of officers of the party, including Christopher Gill and others CLICK HERE.
Then of course there are many resignation letters of well informed elected officers of the party such as:
Richard Suchorzewski CLICK HERE
John West CLICK HERE
Niall Warry CLICK HERE
Douglas Denny CLICK HERE
etc.
You will note from Douglas Denny’s letter of resignation he boasts of having detailed evidence of the criminality in Nigel Farage’s party, which as we all know is managed by Nigel Farage on a very hands on basis using his personal appointees, such as Douglas Denny, to corrupt processes to obtain the results he personally required!
I always believed that it was a criminal offence to fail to report crime and thus I wonder when Douglas Denny will be called to account on criminal charges.
 TIMES - Ukip Rig Elections 01TIMES - Ukip Rig Elections 02-Dec-2014 - 02
Then again we know that Nigel Farage’s doxy Annabelle Fuller acted on his behalf to rig elections whether in her corrupt move to belittle John West as a candidate by breech of data protection laws posting a confidential video on You Tube, a matter about which she lied, lies which led to lies from Nigel Farage and the resignation of John Wittaker MEP’s resignation as chairman.
Or as portrayed in Julia Langmaid’s letter:
LANGMAID, Julia 01 - Letter 31-07-2010
 Also seek out the details, all of which are covered on this web site, of John Wittacker MEP’s depature as Chairman or that of Chris Pain, Mike Nattrass MEP, or the lies of Ukip surrounding the departure of Jasna Badzak or Nikki Sinclaire MEP, Dr. David Abbott, Dr. Eric Edmonds, Roger Knappman MEP & Leader, Martin Hasslam, Petrina Holdsworth Chairman, Marta Andreasen MEP, David Bannerman MEP, John Petley (unless it paid!) and many many more who quit in disgust at the corruption in Nigel Farage’s party, which he has operated over many years as a one man fiefdom with absolute control. A control which with the help of Douglas Denny and other ‘placemen’ he  enshrined in the corruption of the party constitution and rule book.
The media has also covered details of positions on MEP selection lists purchased by candidates in some detail previously!
Nigel Farage’s mask – the affable chappy in the pub act is clearly slipping
FARAGE, Nigel  104one can hear him already either blaming everyone else and accepting no responsibility for the actions of the party he has controlled, in every aspect, since Alan Sked left in disgust, or taking a leaf out of the book of his chums in the BNP, who are I note now openly backing him as do the EDL and other extremists, racists and the self serving!
He is more than likely to try to claim this is just a Government smear or the establishment trying to damage the party because, he will claim, it is doing so well.
This is of course just the dishonest spin of politics, as one can tell by even a glance at the facts and a small amount of research of the many key people in Ukip that Farage has fallen out with and just how implacable are their enemies who their dishonesty, corruption and offensive behaviour has done so much to earn.

Ukip ‘massaging’ selection process

Ukip’s selection process has been manipulated to allow the leadership to install favoured candidates, it has been claimed.

Leaked emails reveal a raft of concerns about the way the system in Nigel Farage’s party has been operated, including suggestions it has been “massaged by an internal clique to suit pre-determined outcomes”.

Psychometric tests, interviews and assessments were used by the party to weed out potential problem candidates ahead of the campaign for the May’s elections to the European parliament.

 
Ukip's leadership manipulated the party's selection process, it is claimed

Ukip’s leadership manipulated the party’s selection process, it is claimed

According to emails seen by The Times, Andrew Moncrieff, a member of the party’s governing committee, claimed it had turned into “another classic Ukip behind closed doors selection”.

He wrote last year: “There is the question of whether the final scores were massaged by an internal clique to suit pre-determined outcomes.

“What started out as an attempt to produce a transparent, equitable system has turned into another classic Ukip behind closed doors selection.”

Mr Moncrieff asked why “paid party lackeys have done surprisingly well” and raised the prospect of the involvement of “Nigel’s henchmen”.

Ukip deputy chairman Neil Hamilton claimed the list of candidates contained “manifest absurdities” in a private email, according to the newspaper.

“As you can imagine, I’m not pleased with the MEP selection process,” Mr Hamilton wrote. “Yet again, things have not been thought through properly and badly executed.”

In one email exchange, Will Gilpin, the party’s former chief executive, wrote: “When I saw the (MEP selection) list I concluded that the party doesn’t really want to change, that the same sycophancy will be the driving force.”

Mr Moncrieff and Mr Hamilton did not make the party’s shortlist for the European elections.

Douglas Denny, who was selected in an open hustings to be the Portsmouth South parliamentary candidate but was later dropped by the leadership, accused the party of being “immoral, undemocratic and deeply corrupt”, according to The Times.

Ukip said that its selection systems were fair and insisted Mr Farage had “no hand” in the process.

A spokesman said: “The results were not manipulated, and Nigel Farage had no hand whatsoever in the selection process, finding out the assessment results only at the NEC at which they were unveiled.

“The fairness of the process was, in fact, tested in court. The regional lists were not altered, except in Scotland where several candidates resigned, or where one or two candidates resigned in other regions.

“The process was not designed to ensure that anybody specific did not make the shortlist; it was designed, using external consultants, to ensure that comparatively unsuitable people did not make the shortlist, and worked well in that respect.”

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The Times in splendid isolation behind its pay wall has worked up the story with further details and would seem to have sourced much of the information via Alexi talking with the embittered scoundrel and imaginitive fantasist Douglas Denny, who is slowly spilling ther beans as his revenge for being demoted from being one of Nigel Farage’s more corrupt fixers!
Whether Alexi will manage to gain access to the hard evidence that will put Farage in prison, as boasted of by Denny, before Denny has his collar felt for colluding in criminal activity and failing to supply the facts with the evidence to the rightfull authorities is a moot question!

Ukip ‘fixing’ selection of candidates, emails claim

To view the originaldo buy a copy of today’s Times, where you will find the full text rather more decorously laid out!

Ukip ‘fixing’ selection of candidates, emails claim

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Nigel Farage has gained support by pitching Ukip as an ‘anti-establishment’ party Carl Court/Getty Images

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Ukip has manipulated the selection of prospective parliamentary candidates and is run by Nigel Farage as an “undemocratic” cabal, according to claims in a leaked cache of documents seen by The Times.

 

More than a dozen activists previously loyal to the Eurosceptic party have resigned over perceived efforts by Mr Farage and his allies to remove long-serving Ukip members from standing as MPs and MEPs in winnable seats.

 

As Mr Farage attempts to broaden Ukip’s appeal and to capitalise on its recent successes, some of his most longstanding foot-soldiers have accused the party of ignoring its own rules on selection procedures to the benefit of favoured candidates.

 

Neil Hamilton, now Ukip’s deputy chairman, warned in a private email that its list of MEP candidates for May’s European elections contained “manifest absurdities”.

 

“As you can imagine, I’m not pleased with the MEP selection process,” Mr Hamilton wrote. “Yet again, things have not been thought through properly and badly executed.”

 

In another leaked email, Will Gilpin, Ukip’s former chief executive, wrote: “When I saw the [MEP selection] list I concluded that the party doesn’t really want to change, that the same sycophancy will be the driving force.”

 

Mr Farage has gained support by pitching Ukip as an “anti-establishment” party seeking to shake up the old boys’ club in Westminster. Internal documents reveal, though, that senior figures questioned whether party leaders had tailored interview questions to discriminate against certain MEP candidates or had altered some candidates’ ratings to suit their own preferences.

 

Instead of allowing local branches to choose candidates for the European elections in May this year, Ukip required potential MEPs to undergo psychometric testing and a series of formal interviews and assessments. They were given a rating out of 100 based on their performance and placed on a shortlist that was voted on by every party member.

 

“There is the question of whether the final scores were ‘massaged’ by an internal clique to suit pre-determined outcomes,” Andrew Moncrieff, who remains on Ukip’s governing committee, wrote last year. “What started out as an attempt to produce a transparent, equitable system has turned into another classic Ukip ‘behind closed doors’ selection.”

 

Last night, a party spokesman said: “What we see are a series of claims by disappointed candidates. The system was fair and rigorous, and the quality of candidates continues to improve. As Ukip grows there are those who have been around a long time who feel that by dint of long service they are entitled to jobs and roles. The opposite is true, as today there is far greater competition. This can only be a good thing for the party and the country as a whole.”

 

Steve Crowther, the party chairman, had to reassure the party’s national executive committee last year that Mr Farage had “never at any stage given me even the slightest indication of who should and should not be on the list. Not once.”

 

Mr Moncrieff, who like Mr Hamilton did not make the European shortlist, questioned the involvement of “Nigel’s henchmen” in the process and asked why “paid party lackeys have done surprisingly well”. He suggested that a likely reason was “that it suits the party hierarchy to get people paid by the party elected as MEPs so they can be paid for by the EU”.

 

Two Ukip insiders have suggested that at least one candidate’s scores may have been downgraded.

 

“The candidate got his results [from the firm which carried out tests o/n behalf of Ukip],” one source said. “They told him he was one of the highest. His scores were higher than his position on the list, that was for sure.”

 

The insider said that members of the party’s governing committee were not shown the candidates’ scores and were simply presented with a ranked list of 60 candidates at the same time as it was published to members.

 

David Gale, Ukip’s former candidate for the police and crime commissioner role in Derbyshire, resigned last year after suggesting that one party official had justified the omission of an MEP candidate on the basis that “all the members would vote for him and we can’t have that”. Ukip strongly denied the claims at the time.

 

Rifts in the party over selection look set to continue into next year. Douglas Denny, a former Farage loyalist who joined Ukip in 1999, accused the party of being “immoral, undemocratic and deeply corrupt” after he was deselected as the party’s parliamentary candidate for Portsmouth South.

 

Mr Denny was selected 18 months ago after winning an open hustings but was dropped by Ukip’s leadership after it asserted the right to change candidates in so-called “key seats”. In a resignation note he said that Ukip had “demonstrated conclusively that they are willing to manipulate the MP candidates’ selection process . . . and have changed the rules recently to allow this to be done. Those choosing will be under the shadow of Nigel Farage.”

 

Andrew MacDowell, Portsmouth’s chairman, also resigned from the party in protest. Roger Bird, a Ukip member, told a local newspaper that Mr Denny’s deselection was a “routine event”.

 

More recently, the entire local party branch in South Hereford voted to dissolve itself in support of the prospective parliamentary candidate, Kip Waistell, who resigned after a Ukip MEP allegedly threatened to have him “deselected”.

 

Mr Waistell claimed in his resignation letter that “there are those within Ukip who have sought from day one to manipulate people against each other in this constituency”. Ukip’s response was that a “lacklustre” Mr Waistell “jumped before he was pushed”.

 

Last year, about 200 Ukip members paid £500 each to enter the process to become an MEP candidate in the European elections. Some 77 shortlisted names paid a further £360 for screening tests, bringing the party more than £125,000 in income.

 

Mr Crowther told NEC members in an email that the selection process was “calculated to be self-liquidating”. However, Ukip’s 2013 accounts listed the costs of MEP selection as £32,671, suggesting it made a profit of more than £95,000.

 

Caroline Gent, a Ukip councillor, wrote to the party’s NEC last year to express her “total dismay” after candidates she considered to be superior were passed over. “The whole thing stinks,” she said. “I thought UKIP were supposed to be honest.”

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UKIP vs EUkip – FlexCit offers the UK an EU Exit and Survival strategy

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UKIP vs EUkip – FleXcit offers the UK an EU Exit and Survival strategy.

I make no apology for the length of this post as it is aimed for those who are seriously interested in leaving the EU and realise the need for a workable and ethical eXit and Survival strategy.
I believe the time is now right, with the passing of the Euro Elections, to refocus this thread, by adding to the title, to thus change the emphasis from the exploits of Nigel’s EUkip to the challenge of getting UKIP and others to adopt a workable eXit and Survival Strategy.

My thanks to the moderators for facilitating this.

The reason for adding to the original title instead of a starting a new thread is to keep the post’s history, context and development as we refocus on the ‘HOW’ best we will actually be able to leave the EU without which I maintain we will never win the battle to leave the EU.

The important consideration now is to win any In/Out referendum ‘if’ and ‘when’ held and not forgetting the all important task of ensuring the outcome, assuming we win, is binding.

Currently I believe the only VIABLE ‘eXit and Survival Plan’ in the public domain is FleXcit as written by Dr Richard North, with contributions from many of those who read his blog EU Referendum blog. Even a recent review of the six finalists in the IEA’s BreXit competition acknowledged that they did NOT provide the definitive solution and another may well be needed.

What is abundantly clear is that without the ‘Outers’ mustering behind a WORKABLE plan the field will be left open to the Establishment and Europhiles to use Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD) to maintain the status quo. The history of the 1975 referendum proves this point extensively and I highly recommend the well researched and authoritive book on the subject by two fellows of Nuffield College Oxford, David Butler and Uwe Kitzinger unsurprisingly called, ‘The 1975 Referendum’!

This thread was of course started on the 27th February 2011 with the intent of pointing out the differences between where UKIP should be heading and where I and others felt Nigel Farage was leading the party which, to differentiate, I called EUKip. As I asked within days of starting the thread ‘What is UKIP for’?

Despite the new title to this thread, it is still my contention, supported by many others who can see beyond his anti EU rhetoric, that Nigel’s EUkip is not fit for the purpose of helping navigate the UK safely out of the EU. In 21 years EUkip has NEVER put forward an ’eXit & Survival Strategy’ in support of their claim to be seeking an amicable divorce form the EU. Claiming you want something is the easy part but tackling the how and having the power to implement your plans is of course an entirely separate matters both of which Nigel’s EUkip doesn’t come close to – in terms of gravitas, competence or ability –  as proved over the last 21 years.

Since the beginning of this thread I have learned a great deal and been able to hone my arguments over the whole EU debate and after a few faltering early comments and remarks, which I have acknowledged, my aim has been to see UKIP reformed but not destroyed. I have tried endlessly to explain and persuade others that UKIP will never be reformed under Nigel Farage’s divisive cult style leadership and as the apparent Eurosceptic brand leader we need UKIP to appeal beyond its relatively small core vote, shown recently to be a mere 9% of the electorate, to over 50% of the electorate, a level of support obviously needed to win that referendum when called.

Another point I have brought up over and over again is that Nigel Farage has never invested the intellectual effort and time to produce an eXit and Survival plan preferring to concentrate his efforts to achieve electoral success at the Euro and General Elections. However as I have also frequently pointed out UKIP MEPs are about as much good as an ashtray on a motorbike and Nigel’s plans, to concentrate on elections, currently shows no signs of getting an MP to Westminster, especially after the Newark result where they could not have been better placed to win. They were still on the crest of the wave, after their success at the Euro elections, the candidate was the ex-Tory Roger Helmer who was well known in the area, Cameron’s Tories are unpopular with many core Conservatives and finally the out going MP Patrick Mercer was exposed for corruption.

Despite all these factors in UKIP’s favour the Tories won handsomely with 17,431 to UKIP’s 10,020. By any serious analysis this result bodes ill for any prospect UKIP has of gaining a single MP let alone a workable number at the 2015 General Election.

As I have often said Nigel and his cabal have all gone native in Brussels and his latest ‘freebie’ escapade in Malta before the Newark bye election provides all the evidence you need that he always puts his own self interests above those of HIS party.

So how can FleXcit help us leave the EU and what does it advocate?

The FleXcit paper, which I recommend is the sort of document you need to read several times to really start to understand it, is due to be published in the Autumn but you can still read the latest version as it is developed at :-
http://www.flexcit.org/

In summary the plan, which is a play on the words FleXible, eXit and Continuous Development, is just that a FleXible and Continuous Plan to help us Exit safely from the EU, after 40 years of integration, whilst upholding all our international treaty obligations which we are legally and morally obliged to honour, under the terms of the Vienna Treaty on International Treaties. This will allow us once again to gradually take our own seat at the global top table rather than, as we currently are, being represented by an unelected EU official. As we negotiate ourselves out of the EU we will be free to act directly, on the world stage, for our own interests, unfettered by membership of the EU. It is a given, as advocated by any serious commentator and even the recent IEA Brexit competition, that the start point for beginning the process of Britain’s withdrawal from the EU will result from us implementing Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty.

The absolutely vital fact to grasp is that FleXcit advances a flexible continuous process that will crucially neutralise the Establishment’s use of FUD and their promotion of the false safety of remaining with the status quo, which can be seen, has not been successful especially in the EU! In the initial stages this is what has become known as the Norway Option, involving joining EFTA to retain our membership of the EEA, but it is only the start of the flexible and continuous process we will be on until we regain our complete independence from the EU. FlexCit will help fight classic FUD like the scare that ‘3 million jobs will be lost if we leave the EU’, which is simply NOT the case as we have no intention of leaving the Single Market (SM) made up of 28 countries until, further down the line, something better can be negotiated between the other 22 countries in Europe that are not members of the EU’s SM.

So FleXcit is a multi layer solution where the Norway Option is only an interim step along the way to establishing something much larger which will be achieved via the eight point plan explained in it.

Interestingly there is no strong economic case that can be made for leaving the EU and we will always struggle to argue for withdrawal on those grounds just as conversely there is equally no economic case for staying in the EU. However there are strong democratic and humanitarian reasons for leaving the EU related to the advantages of Self Determination and taking back control of our own destiny from undemocratic and unrepresentative Euro politicians and the unelected bureaucrats and of course, as already mentioned, the benefits of representing our own self interests on the world stage.

It is after leaving the EU that we would be free to concentrate on pushing forward with the introduction of The Harrogate Agenda’s (THA) six demands, which are based on the principles of Direct Democracy, as while leaving the undemocratic EU is a start we would still be faced by a corrupted and undemocratic Westminster. THA aims to give ‘Real Power to the People’.

Having left the EU an integral part of the FleXcit plan is the realisation that the democracy at Westminster must not only be greater and more responsible but more closely responsive to the peoples of Britain, to avoid them ever again being duped, as they were over the Common Market, by the MPs they have elected to serve them. Our political elite are increasingly a law unto themselves and only by the people being recognised as sovereign over our Parliament will things change. As a reminder THA’s six demands are:-

1. Recognition of our sovereignty:
The peoples of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland comprise the ultimate authority of their nations and are the source of all political power. That fact shall be recognised by the Crown and the Governments of our nations, and our Parliaments and Assemblies;
2. Real local democracy:
The foundation of our democracy shall be the counties (or other local units as may be defined), which shall become constitutional bodies exercising under the control of their peoples all powers of legislation, taxation and administration not specifically granted by the people to the national government;
3. Separation of powers:
The executive shall be separated from the legislature. To that effect, prime ministers shall be elected by popular vote; they shall appoint their own ministers, with the approval of parliament, to assist in the exercise of such powers as may be granted to them by the sovereign people of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland; no prime ministers or their ministers shall be members of parliament or any legislative assembly;
4. The people’s consent:
No law, treaty or government decision shall take effect without the consent of the majority of the people, by positive vote if so demanded, and that none shall continue to have effect when that consent is withdrawn by the majority of the people;
5. No taxation or spending without consent:
No tax, charge or levy shall be imposed, nor any public spending authorised, nor any sum borrowed by any national or local government except with the express approval the majority of the people, renewed annually on presentation of a budget which shall first have been approved by their respective legislatures;
6. A constitutional convention:
Parliament, once members of the executive are excluded, must host a constitutional convention to draw up a definitive codified constitution for the peoples of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. It shall recognise their sovereign status and their inherent, inalienable rights and which shall be subject to their approval.

For more on THA see:

http://HarrogateAgenda.org.uk

I still believe it will be important, in this thread, to continue to link to what others are saying about UKIP, as I originally set out to do, and generally comment on such links while adding my own thoughts as necessary and applicable. This of course helps to expose the incompetence at the heart of Nigel’s EUkip and of some of his supporters as demonstrated on this forum.

So by adding to my original aim, of highlighting EUkip’s need to reform, I will now use this thread to seek to explain the importance to UKIP of the FleXcit plan as currently the only workable and honourable ‘eXit and Survival plan’ from the EU which helps neutralise the Establishments use of FUD and will thus help us to win the referendum.

That UKIP members and branches still potentially have some clout, with their county coverage, is not in doubt but they will need to start to think for themselves and therefore must look beyond Nigel Farage and his cabal’s poor leadership and to push and promote the FlexCit plan. Nigel’s current focus on anti EU rhetoric and attempts to win seats next year will NOT on its own help us to win the all important referendum. I don’t hold out much hope that Nigel is capable of changing his ways and the behaviour and quality of output of his 24 MEPs will, in a relatively short time, give us all the evidence we need to see if they are really serious about wanting to leave the EU.

I hope you will join constructively in this new phase of this thread, working to assist in supporting and improving the FleXcit plan, in the spirit of continuous development, between now and the referendum ‘if’ and ‘when’ held. Also I hope you will do all you can to spread the word that the FleXcit plan helps counter the Establishments use of FUD to maintain the status quo by answering the all important question as to ‘HOW’ we can safely leave the EU. This is a plan that does NOT get in the way of party allegiances and so should provide no barrier to any real ’Outer’ supporting it.

Don’t forget that no political party is permitted to lead on either the Yes or the No side in any referendum so those who are really serious about seeking a safe and honourable exit from the EU should be able to gather around this plan.

So FleXcit it has to be if UKIP or anyone else for that matter really wants to win the battle to successfully leave the EU.

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Clearly UKIP Sees Itself As ‘A ONE MAN BAND’

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Clearly UKIP Sees Itself As ‘A ONE MAN BAND’ & cancels the morning session of its business conference as without Nigel Farage it would be irelevant!!

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Hi,nothing shows more clearly than the article below that Farage sees UKIP as a ‘One Man Band’ clearly he feels that not only would no one be likely to attend were he not there but after the ridiculous mess he made of last years party conference where he so lacked leadership skills that he could not cope with his drinking buddy & personally appointed MEP Godfrey Bloom’s antics he clearly does not dare risk the possibility of anyone stealing his lime light!Clearly with only two complete non entities largely unknown to the British public as his warm up act without him the entire event would fail, or so it seems.

UKIP leader cuts business summit in East Lancashire to a half-day

Lancashire Telegraph: UKIP leader cuts business summit in East Lancashire to a half-day UKIP leader cuts business summit in East Lancashire to a half-day

UKIP leader Nigel Farage has cut a planned day-long business conference in East Lancashire to a half-day.

Final preparations are now being made for the event, at the Mercure Dunkenhalgh Hotel, in Blackburn Road, Clayton-le-Moors, on January 24.

It is open to all from the business world interested in hearing about the party’s views.

Mr Farage will be available for questions after the session, with UKIP’s deputy leader and North West MEP Paul Nuttall, and Amjad Bashir, party spokesman on small and medium-sized business.

It had been initially planned that the event would span the day, but it is now to begin in the afternoon, with registration at 1.30pm.

Entry is by £10 ticket, and those wishing to attend should email ukipsouthribble@gmail.com A UKIP spokeswoman said: “Nigel has such a whirlwind life he could only make it in the afternoon.

“He just never stops and his feet rarely touch the ground with all the demands on his time.”

To view the original article CLICK HERE

Or to follow the lighter hearted lead of Petrina Holdsworth, formerly Chairman of UKIP, who posted on a largely UKIP controlled public Forum:

Default Farage`s One Man Show

Roll up !Roll up ! The amazing Nigel Farage will amuse and enchant you with his wild stories of terrifying and amusing encounters of the political kind with such well known personages as Tony Blair ,Robert Kilroy-Silk.Barroso and others .He will then sign copies of his book in front of your very eyes.
Do not miss this exciting moment,the never to be repeated (or is it just the start) “one man show.”

Go on folks – 10th Feb tickets £21 at the Assembly Hall Theatre T.Wells Kent.
All profits to the Nigel Farage Benevolent Fund no doubt.

To meet with a rapid riposte from Eric Edmund a for5mer elected member of UKIP NEC who was dishonestly forced off of the NEC by Nigel Farage and cronies he controls based on a pack of lies who said, possibly more in hope than expectation:

‘If you sit on the benches of the Bailey long enough you may see whole Cabal in the dock. The legal process grinds exceeding slow but exceeding fine. ‘
Followed up shortly after by a comment from Niall Warry who was UKIP Chairman of Wales later serving as Branch Chairman of Cheltenham’s UKIP Branch during which time he also served as UKIP’s Head Office manager – his comments are similarly condemnatory:

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That UKIP is a one man show is beyond doubt.

Nigel keeps coming up with catchy populist rhetoric on immigration and much else but on detail and how to actually extract us for the EU there is sadly deafening silence.

Yes he will do well in the euro elections but even if he was to achieve all 70 odd MEPs what on earthly good would that do to getting us out of the EU? It would of course make his sycophants all wealthy beyond their abilities but then that is all that really matters to Nigel.

What existing UKIP MEP has actually achieved anything of consequence?

Nikki, an ex -UKIP MEP, works hard but on a project, for an early referendum, which would be a disaster for our causeas we would lose.

Nigel runs his cult EUkip for his own self and financial advancement and to deny this is to be blind to the bleeding obvious.

The extraordinary part of this story is that UKIP has managed to dupe so many gullible people that they stand every possibility of being THE party to act as the dustbin into which the majority of protest votes will go during the EU elections this coming May – However it is unlikely they will be able to follow that with any similar result in the elections of 2015 for Westminster and Local Government.Mided of just how untrustworthy and useless the politicians of  the two other parties are sadly we can not count on the low grade scoundrels in UKIP not having a major impact in 2015 – but clearly they are unfit for purpose in their present state and structure lurching from idiocy to idiocy without any signs of consistent competence or acceptable gravitas for the task of leading Britain to Leave-The-EU.
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Past UKIP Chairman’s Excoriating Comment on UKIP

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Past UKIP Chairman’s Excoriating Comment on UKIP! By no means the first such denunciation of UKIP by past executives of Farage’s Party!

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Hi,you may well find the comments of a past Chairman of UKIP of interest:

Niall is absolutely correct in stating that UKIP should have produced an entry for the Brexit competition.

UKIP let every member down when it failed to do anything of note to fight the Lisbon Treaty.Indeed Farage is on record as stating in the NEC meeting that the Conservatives should be left to deal with it ! Neither did it produce a competent petition to trigger a debate in Parliament on a referendum,that was left to Nikki Sincalir and others and to the Express.

So sadly this lack of action by the party is par for the course.It cannot simply leave action to party members on an ad hoc basis .The whole point of a party is to organise the membership,provide leadership ,produce useful ideas and strategies and accurate written work.Doesn`t seem to be happening does it?

To view the original as posted on the internet CLICK HERE

& to quote from the same thread on the UKIP controlled thread the comments of a past UKIP Wales Chairman, Chairman of UKIP’s Cheltenham branch and ex UKIP Head Office manager:

Finishing most posts with ‘UKIP is not fit for purpose’ is a strapline that is worth repeating until it sinks in.

I do paste other’s articles and the substance and questions that need addressing are in them.

UKIP is at best standing still, by any serious analysis, and what little it is said to be achieving, on the edges of our politics, would have been achieved back in 2007 when UKIP had the same membership as today.

Now take the absolute failure of UKIP MEPs. Of 13 elected in 2009 we have only 8 left which is now 9 with the addition of the Tory Helmer.

So 5 have left or been ‘got rid of’ so if that is your definition of success it sums you up!

Then of the 8 UKIP MEP’s left who ever hears of Dartmouth,Bufton,Clark or Colman?

Finally add NO official UKIP Brexit entry and you know FKEU I’m absolutely right – UKIP is NOT fit for purpose!

For those who have had the pleasure of not noting FKEU you will find he is one of the more unpleasant and damaging, to UKIP, trolls, who shelter their sneering and dishonest misrepresentations in a false identity; similar to such as SteveUKIP, Hartlepool and others who are too ashamed to put their name to their sabotage of UKIP’s efforts to appear principled, responsible and ethical (they are not alone!)
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An Incisive Analysis of UKIP by AutonomousMinds

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An Incisive Analysis of UKIP by AutonomousMinds featuring the meeting at Telford to promote the MEP candidacy of Jill Seymore, who has in the past made it very clear that she would be far out of her depth as an MEP which is almost impossible to disagree with but then again there is no one on the list for the West Midlands who offers any hope or signs of competence – largely in keeping with the rest of The Farage cult’s candidates!!

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I found this article a well presented summary of many views which I share:

This should be of concern to every person who wants the UK to leave the EU

On 5th September, UKIP held what it described as its biggest ever rally as 900 people gathered to listen to Nigel Farage and others speak.

The event received a write up in the Shropshire Star, which covered the key points made by the speakers.  Those people who have looked or will look at the report in the expectation of seeing some red meat on the subject of withdrawal from the EU and plans for how such an exit can be delivered, can be forgiven for feeling some disappointment.  The report shows the EU barely warranted a mention, and when it did it wasn’t Farage talking about it.

Being a curious sort, this prompted me to have a discussion about it with a highly placed source in the party.  They confirmed that EU matters were only mentioned in passing, but more revealingly explained that after the event Farage was delighted that the focus on the biggest political issue affecting the UK – membership of the EU and its consequences – was minimal.  It wasn’t an accident, it was by design.

While David Cameron talked the talk in imploring his Conservative members to stop ‘banging on about Europe’, Farage is walking the walk by doing just that.

Previous insights provided to me by well placed UKIP sources, one of whom has just landed on the party’s MEP candidate list for next year’s elections, asserted that Farage is more interested in building a rival to the Conservatives in the hope of splitting that party and capturing a segment of it, than pushing for an exit from the EU.  The new focus on emulating the targeted campaign approach used by the Liberal Democrats, in order to win a few seats rather than putting resources into all constituencies, confirms their assessments.

But what should cause even more concern for withdrawal realists – who understand leaving the EU while preserving the UK’s commercial interests requires a structured approach where Article 50 is invoked and agreement is reached on the relationship the UK will have with the EU after departure, before the European Communities Act (ECA) is repealed – is my source’s confirmation that Farage sees such a negotation as time consuming and an opportunity for EU meddling.  Farage, who has carefully straddled the fence in public by not siding for or against the Article 50 route despite a clear split in his party on the matter, in private advocated the scorched earth approach of leaving first and trying to negotiate something after, which would leave UK commercial interests at serious risk of damage.

This represents a serious threat to an ‘out’ campaign in any future referendum on EU membership.  The withdrawalists would come under incessant attack from the business community which would only look kindly on withdrawal if they could be assured their interests would be protected after the UK leaves the EU.  The Farage approach does not and cannot give that assurance.  In the meantime, Farage will not let UKIP announce its policy and approach for fear it will alienate a substantial number of UKIP members and will see the party exposed to (justified) attack from the Europhiles who will seize on such naive stupidity with alacrity.

What this demonstrates is that, once again, a political party created to achieve a particular end has compromised itself to service internal party maintenance and management.  As Norway showed during its referendum campaign on EU membership, a non party political campaign is the only way of ensuring the objectives are not watered down or jettisoned in favour of a party’s interests.

By way of a closing thought, if you think it is ridiculous that an anti EU party such as UKIP could be pulled off to focus on other things at the whim of its leader in this way, then consider for yourself the evidence that Farage is reversing from EU matters as part of his dream of being a British MP and leading a party in Parliament.  In the Evening Standard we see Tony Blair getting substantial space to set out yet another FUD-laden argument against withdrawing from the EU.  You would think the UKIP leader and by definition the supposed leader of the Eurosceptic movement would be all over this, exposing the misrepresentation, falsehoods and errors in Blair’s and numerous others that have been published in recent weeks and months.

You would think Farage would be demanding a right of reply to set the record straight – or at the very least shotuing loudly that he is being denied a platform.  There is still no counter to this prolonged Europhile line of attack in the media, and certainly nothing rebutting it on the UKIP website.  But Farage did somehow find time to be quoted at length in the Daily Express on High Speed Rail 2… he didn’t even mention the EU origins of the project in order to create a high speed rail network across the union.  I’ll leave it to Farage’s vocal band of supporters to explain how this focus does anything to develop public support for withdrawal from the EU or move us foward on the journey to successfully leaving the union at a time the Europhiles are working the public and winning them over to supporting continued membership.

The implications of this are clear.  The Eurosceptic movement is not being helped by UKIP because Farage’s agenda means he has other fish to fry.  The campaign is weaker as a result.  UKIP should be a standard bearer, it should be the flag ship of the ‘out’ campaign.  But under Farage it has relegated itself to the position of day-tripping passenger on a support vessel.  Do UKIP’s members realise what’s happening, or do they even care?

16 Responses to “This should be of concern to every person who wants the UK to leave the EU”

  1. Richard North 10/09/2013 at 10:55 am

    That really turns UKIP into a bed-blocker. Far from educating the voting public at large, Farage isn’t even reaching his own members. This is the response of a branch chairman to a question on UKIP’s policy to Art 50:

    “My understanding is that Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty is designed to prevent the sheep leaving the fold. We must leave on our own terms, even though we know the technocrats will try to make it as difficult as they can”.

    I suppose, though, that if this is the level of ignorance in the party, it is better if UKIP keep away from EU issues and leaves them to the grown-ups.

  2. Sackerson 10/09/2013 at 11:17 am

    It’s a fork – bank on about the EU and stay on the outside, quieten down on that subject in order to increase your vote and get accused of abandoning your principles. The question is, do you really think Farage has given up Brexit as a goal?

  3. Autonomous Mind 10/09/2013 at 11:55 am

    A couple of points. Where is the sense in going quiet on the EU just as the ‘in’ campaign is dominating the debate? And surely the question to ask is if Farage has Brexit as a goal, what is he doing to bring it about? Finding evidence to support his exit credentials is getting harder all the time. I believe he is leaving EU withdrawal behind for personal reasons.

    In answer to your question, I think Farage will do anything that helps him realise his ambition. If that means turning UKIP into just another mainstream party to help him into Westminster, then I have no doubt he would do whatever suits him.

  4. LeoSavantt 10/09/2013 at 2:20 pm

    The reality of the hustings may have been overlooked in this piece. Connecting with the voter and backing up the EU withdrawal case with other policies that appeal is important and probably necessary to attract votes.

    It works like this, “That Nigel Farage who wants the UK to leave the EU, well he talks a lot of sense on HS2 (etc. etc. etc.), so maybe he’s onto something when it comes to Europe”.

    Furthermore the complexities of withdrawal, via Article 50 or indeed any other means, will remain opaque until the process of withdrawal begins. No one in Brussels or London ever imagined Article 50 would ever be used in anger. Nobody, whether that be the Commission, Council or indeed UKIP can second guess this one. It is simply uncharted territory.

    This is not to say that this issue should not be discussed, and that the possible options, mechanisms and pitfall analysed; but I suggest that for Mr. Farage to publicly raise this issue, at the present juncture, would be both foolish, unnecessary and counter productive.

    First we ideally need the settled will of the people to be firmly in favour of withdrawal and for that to be demonstrated democratically and unequivocally. At this point the UK will presumably play its hand (badly or otherwise).

    However, today we are not even sure if Lisbon will be politically or even legally the most important Treaty. Indeed if Cameron’s timetable is followed, it does seem possible that by 2018 a fully federalised Eurozone could be in-place (assuming that insolvency and civil unrest hasn’t put paid to the centralist agenda). This may well change the dynamic in Europe so that it is a new Treaty, not Lisbon, that federalists will rally around.

    The criticism of Mr. Farage’s strategy is rather harsh, his job is to attract voters and at this stage not to inform them about the technicalities of the possible mechanisms of withdrawal. This is made especially so at this time when even the most prescient would be hard pressed to offer a credible forecast as to how things might actually pan out.

    In light of that Farage, and UKIP’s over all approach of weakening the Conservative Party in its Europhile form at least (and of course to a lesser extent the others) and raising UKIP’s profile on EU and non-EU policy areas is working. So much so that even the President of the United States (whilst remaining philosophically a Europhile) raised the Referendum issue on the steps of the White House. It is UKIP’s rise that has forced the issue onto the agenda. So far their strategy not only looks relatively successful, it is also the only democratic game in town.

    That does not mean those with more in-depth knowledge should not continue to debate, explore, and advise on the consequences, mechanisms and possible outcomes. Or that UKIp’s approach should not be criticised, as it has been consistently done on this site and at both a credible and intellectually coherent level .

    Never-the-less there comes a time, especially as support and electoral success increase, when the politics of analysis and election separate.

    The most important thing is votes cast in the direction of the UK’s withdrawal. With those votes comes moral authority, a force that may prove to be more powerful than Article 50, or indeed any other piece of ill thought out EU legislation (for in reality Lisbon was never designed to be a Treaty but a law within which the powers and functions of the EU were re-codified and increased).

    It seems not unlikely that if, when and indeed how the UK leaves the EU, will be most influenced by the number of votes UKIP can attract in 2014 and the threat to repeat any success in 2015 and then ultimately on the size of any majority in favour of exit, should an IN/OUT be held and won.

    It would seem that without UKIP none of this would be even a faint possibility. I might add that I am not a UKIP member, but it seems to me that you are asking them to jump a relatively distant fence when the electorate are still undecided at the water jump.

  5. Duyfken 10/09/2013 at 3:03 pm

    I am sure AT is right in all that he (and Richard North similarly) says about and criticises UKIP/Farage. For me, Farage has provided a valuable service in promoting EUscepticism and having brought it or helped to bring it to public attention. The success of UKIP now gives concern to the Conservatives and others and it was Farage with his tub-thumping who largely achieved this. For this I am appreciative.

    But that, I know, does not mean he has the ability to lead a mainstream parliamentary party. The difficulty is that we have no alternative at this stage. Just for whom do I vote in the coming European elections and in the subsequent UK GE? None of the main 3 parties is worth considering so it just leaves UKIP or my not voting at all.

    If AT or others have any helpful suggestions. my thanks in advance.

  6. Duyfken 10/09/2013 at 3:04 pm

    Sorry, I meant “AM”.

  7. cosmic 10/09/2013 at 3:20 pm

    LeoSavantt,

    Things can be seen that way.

    However, the view you take depends on how much faith you have in Farage’s initial intent and then steadfastness to remain true to UKIPs primary purpose of leaving he EU.

  8. Autonomous Mind 10/09/2013 at 3:30 pm

    I think Leo has put more strategic thought into one post than Farage has into one year of UKIP activity.

    People don’t seem to grasp that Farage’s priorities are Nigel Farage and money.

    Leo’s argument reminds me of the hundreds of comments on Conservative Home arguing Cameron was only pretending to be a social democrat Europhile and that once in power he would suddenly reveal his inner conservative. We all know what happened there. Why suppose Farage has any more depth than Cameron?

  9. cosmic 10/09/2013 at 4:52 pm

    AM,

    Yes, I was thinking about Cameron the supposed eurosceptic wolf in europhile sheep’s clothing, playing his cards close to his chest. He turned out to be a sheep and a lot of us thought he was nothing else from the outset.

    Being a political party carries temptations and compromises.

    In UKIP’s case it was argued that if they got MEPs they’d ‘go native’ and there’s certainly an argument to be made for that.

    In the case of representation at Westminster, especially with no immediate prospect of power, there has to be the temptation to fit in with the social-democratic consensus and occupy the LibDem niche of being a general protest party – and letting the question of leaving the EU fade into the background.

  10. Niall Warry 10/09/2013 at 8:14 pm

    Most UKIP supporters are I fear politically naive so it is not that they don’t care it is that they just simply don’t know or haven’t worked out what makes Nigel tick.

  11. Nailer 10/09/2013 at 8:32 pm

    @Dufyken

    “…For me, Farage has provided a valuable service in promoting EUscepticism and having brought it or helped to bring it to public attention. The success of UKIP now gives concern to the Conservatives and others and it was Farage with his tub-thumping who largely achieved this…..”

    Well, you’re not wrong. Farage has, to an extent {promoted] EU-scepticism, but what has he done to advance it?

    Can you name a single crowning achievement of any UKIP MEP since 2009?

    No, neither can I.

    No MPs, some county councillors (unless disgraced and resigned), sabotaged mayoral and London Assembly elections… at what point do you wake up and realise it’s a personality cult?

  12. Duyfken 10/09/2013 at 8:59 pm

    @Nailer

    Thanks for the response. I do not take issue with anything you have said but I still have no answer as to how I should vote in forthcoming elections – who else but UKIP?

  13. cosmic 10/09/2013 at 10:22 pm

    @ Dufken

    I vote for them as by far the least worst remotely credible option, but I don’t believe in them as it were. They’re a political party and while we’re stuck with electing one team or another of dictators, there’s no reason to believe UKIP are immune to the forces which made LibLabCon what they are.

    Actually, I don’t even see LibLabCon as elected dictators, more like the current suit worn by the permanent government of civil service, local government, the EU, NGOs, QUANGOs etc., all untouched by elections every five years. The answer I’d say, is some measure of direct democracy where political parties are much reduced in their role, and we’d be far less likely to have the likes of Blair and Cameron taking very unpopular and far-reaching actions on a whim or for completely self-serving reasons.

    The other problem we have is the major players in the political party game having a gentlemens’ agreement not to address certain issues of wide concern, and then fighting over a middle-ground which they feel comfortable with. Is it heretical to suggest that UKIP could be drawn into this if they had enough tribal support?

  14. cosmic 10/09/2013 at 10:30 pm

    @Nial Warry

    Most (enter political party) supporters are I fear politically naive so it is not that they don’t care it is that they just simply don’t know or haven’t worked out what makes (enter first name of leader) tick.

    Admittedly, we do expect far higher standards of UKIP, notionally the outsiders seeking radical change.

  15. Niall Warry 10/09/2013 at 10:34 pm

    Dufyken don’t vote for any of them it only encourages them!!

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UKIP Election Results Catastrophic – Independents 12 : UKIP 0

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UKIP Election Results in PCC Debacle AND by elections of 15-Nov-2012 were undeniably Catastrophic – Even Independents gained 12 seats whilst UKIP lived down to pragmatic expectaion and scored ZERO losing the majority of their 44 deposits!

A cruel blow for those who have been so unprofessionally misled by the self serving Farage cult, unaware of the damage they do to the credibility of EUroScepticism!!

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Hi,
by way of reflection on the catasrophic UKIP results in the various elections held on Thursday 15-Nov-2012 you may find this comment posted on Dr. Eric Edmond’s blog of interest:
for those of us supporting the core principles of UKIP we were again let down by unprofessional leadership, incompetent planning, undemocratic selection of candidates & the normal crass stupidity.

In Corby the result was a risible 14% getting nowhere near being elected despite all the money spent and the idiotic over egging of expectations.

Just how did UKIP think they would get a candidate elected when foisting on the electorate who only vote UKIP as a dustbin for their protest votes and a few willing to hold their noses as they vote to Leave-The-EU.

Just how were they likely to gain votes with an EU lobbyist lately from another party who quite clearly is a political prostitute seeking a way onto the gravy train by raising her profile to be an acceptable Farage placement on the MEP candidate list in 18 months time.

Farage’s placements to be announced at the last minute to ensure democratic choice of members can’t creep in!

Similarly we note Godfrey Blooms wife’s sometime business partner Jane Collins peddling that historic picture of herself (a stunt best known in UKIP as having been used by Janet Girsman and copied by Marion Mason – Derek Clark also uses a similar stunt by using a picture in which he is awake!)

UKIP’s results in the PCC farce were even worse!

Out of 193 candidates for 41 places of over paid & irrelevant party hacks the people spoke loud and clear!

The turnout was the people speaking louder than ever since WWII with 84% totally rejecting the concept of PCCs – Politicians said PCCs would be the voice of the people and what a shock when they heard that voice!

UKIP did particularly badly with not a single candidate rising above the voter rejection in an election where there was every hope they might do well but they failed to field a single solitary credible candidate.

In an election where exposure would seem to have been the key one would have expected Godfrey Bloom to do better than being beaten into 4th. place as I would hazard a guess he has exposed himself more than most – even being banned from hotel chains for exposing himself to urinate in plant pots and arrested for exposing himself copulating with a black prostitute on the bonnet of a car on the public highway we are informed!

A few of us were attacked and ridiculed for our belief that Independent candidates were the future when we set up ‘Independent Leave-The-EU Alliance’ – though clearly we were ahead of our time and under funded our point is made.

In the PCC elections the score was, out of 41, Independents 12 UKIP ZERO.

The abject failure of leadership, risible lack of professionalism, odious corruption and endless pandering to cronies and squabbling with the racist and anti homosexual stance that has led to so much in fighting and back stabbing UKIP has totally let down its core electors and has very clearly failed as a concept.

20 years and they have achieved so very little with less than 30 elected seats of ANY note out of the 19,500 seats available by election!

UKIP keeps making complete fools of themselves with its blow hard clowns pronouncing how well they will do (we heard it in the last election, Barnsley, Corby, PCC, Buckingham elections etc. etc.)

UKIP even make the risible claim they ARE the 3rd. party in British politics when councillors & overseas seats included they have ZERO MPs and less than 30 total whilst even the increasingly unpopular and utterly odious LibDims have over 50 MPs – Whast planet do UKIP leadership live on or are they always drunk!

I know Farage especially employs fools to make him look competent and to praise him but surely he can not believe the drivel he has paid these low grade ingrates to feed him! Next he will have Praise Singers and Jesters (woops I forgot Annabelle Fuller, Mark Croucher, Gawain Towler, Gerard Batten, Derek Clark, Michael Heaver, Douglas Denny, Mick McGough etc. all queued up in their chicken costumes with their inflatable bulldozers and museum military toys, all willing to lie, defame, cheat and dissemble to enhance their rewards!)

Yes Farage as leader of the cult was quite good on Question Time having had 20 years practice as UKIP’s sole spokesman – though clearly he & his hirelings have failed to convince, even when they tell the truth, being slapped down with ease when pointing out that when the EU makes over 75% of our laws & has a bigger bureaucracy than China clearly they ARE responsible for the ills of this country and much else beyond our borders.

UKIP as a Farage cult have proved beyond all doubt the British public don’t trust them with their vote.

I remind you when even the Greens have an MP and the treacherous LibDims have some 50 UKIP has ZERO.

Do not forget in the PCC election UKIP ZERO Independents 12.

Do remember that out of 19,500 seats available by election UKIP after 20 years of utterly incompetent leadership and crass unprofessionalism has failed to get 30 seats of any meaning.

UKIP have become also rans competing with other non entities amongst which are Greens, LibDims, Robin Tilbrook, Plaid and the BNP!

The betrayal by UKIP has been near total! A fact I greatly regret as had they been competent, honest and professionalised they just might have been leading us out of the EU by now – sadly there is no hope of them having a place of any note when we Leave-The-EU with UKIP running along behind desperately trying to jump on the band wagon.

Clearly there are merits to the concept of Independent candidates and IF democracy is to survive, and I dearly hope it does in some form representing people’s wishes and not just politicians ambitions, Independents will and must inevitably rise.

With greater ability for electronic participation the arcane concept of a clique of self serving political party hacks gathering in some foetid chamber are all but over.

With video linking, video conferencing and the added advantage of electronic briefing papers a far greater number of participants and scrutiny can take place and more detailed and immediate voting.

The days of a self serving political elite being free to travel and milk their expenses and libidos in distant cities are near over!

Independents with rated input will present the outlines, facts, details and summaries for debate amongst Independent participants for eventual mass voting.

 

The political parties of today and yesteryear will be no more than a smudge in history books noted for the arcane and unpleasant manner of their life styles and their corruption.

There will be no Tory or Labour Party and LibDims will be long gone (following their present trend) where UKIP never arrived and the odious nature of the lies and distortions of Greens, SNP, Plaid and socialism with its State Broadcasting for perceived central propaganda – ALL swept away.

I am proud that with Niall Warry, Peter Underwood and the support of others I was in the vanguard of the Independent movement which is starting to emerge – I am only sad that some of the hard working supporters of UKIP lacked the foresight and courage to join with us to Leave-The-EU and were too bound up in the unarguably corrupt and unprofessional Farage cult of yesteryear and that so much energy has been wasted supporting the careers of the self serving political elite.

 

Energy that could have been put into building a better tomorrow.

Energy that is being well used by such as Team Sinclair of ‘We Demand A Referendum Party’ and Dr. Richard North, Niall Warry and their Harrogate Agenda movement which meets again in Leamington today – would that I had the health to attend but unfortunately a spin off of the massive treatments and cancer I have had over the last 14+years is insomnia and a tendency to narcolepsy making travel non viable!

I am however only too happy to debate the issues with anyone who cares to and present the issues at any meeting within about a 30 > 40 mile radius of home!

I am also happy to put my case and defend my opinions and statements which would help to add to the assurance that my blogs are open to comment and founded on clear efforts to ensure accuracy and honesty see CLICK HERE

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GUEST POST by: Niall WARRY re: EUro & Harrogate .

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 28/07/2012

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Niall Warry

Niall Warry

 

Niall with a career interspersed between service in the British Army in Britain, including Northern Ireland seeking to try to keep the peace  by control of the power struggles of the criminal gangs, and in Canada, with The Royal Green Jackets and The Welsh Regiment retired after 10 years as a regular and went on to 14 years of service in The TA as a Major.

Some of his service was concurrent with 25 years experience in corporate management, as a Regional Manager for Bass.

The first serious political involvement was with Jimmy Goldsmith‘s Referendum Party as a candidate in 1997.

Since then Niall has stood as a candidate in General Elections and became Chairman of what was UKIP Wales for a period. Due to his wife’s death and relocation to Gloucestershire Niall resigned as Chairman of UKIP Wales handing it on having laid the groundwork and formed the structure that led subsequently to the election of John Bufton as a UKIP MEP.

Relocation led to becoming became Branch Chairman of Cheltenham. In this position he organised UKIP’s annual summer party & open day at Jamie Needpath’s (now Lord Kneedpath) – a hugely successful event during the time when UKIP seemed to have some relevance or at least some hope!

Sadly since 2004 UKIP would seem to have achieved absolutely nothing of any consequence in terms of Leave-The-EU.

It was during this period that Niall Warry was appointed to a general managership in UKIP Head Office in Birmingham, but in seeking to structure sound and transparent procedures and finances he fell foul of the corruption in UKIP leadership and did not have his contract confirmed when the probationary period was over.

Hence even now, years later, he is attacked by the corrupt whom he upset – The institutionalised corruption of UKIP became all too apparent when the Treasure Andrew Smith blocked meetings with him though Andrew Smith resigned in opprobrium a little later leaving his bag man the liar Mick McGough to try to cover his flight!

Niall Warry was dishonestly suspended from Farage’s Party for seeking integrity in the party and even this had to be reversed for fear of High Court action which UKIP would almost certainly have lost!

It is sad that since 2004 UKIP has achieved so very little of consequence, with such great opportunities, but much in terms of bad publicity, self enrichment for the leadership claque, placement of some particularly inept and unpleasant staff and numerous cases of Fraud.

Frauds and other odious behaviour which has all too often been denied with the only defence being to attack those who publish the facts!

The frauds etc. have been or are being investigated by OLAF & or The British Police – several orders to repay money fraudulently obtained and used, a prison sentence for one MEP who abused his position of trust and lied to try to wriggle out of his theft ending up in prison so far and of course liars like Derek Clark who tried to con his regional committee into the belief that first of all he was not under investigation and then that Junius & I had lied and made it up and then when proven guilty lied to pretend he was not found guilty.

It is this sort of corrupt behaviour that Niall Warry decided to disassociate himself from so that he could, like myself and others, carry on the patriotic fight  to Leave-The-EU untramelled and unassociated with the pro EU membership reformist stance of Farage’s squalid little clique and its claque.

As a dedicated EUroRealist of many years standing Niall Warry, with no realistic expectation of success at such short notice but with the aim of raising the EU issue stood as an INDEPENDENT Leave-the-EU Alliance PPC in Somerton & Frome in the General Election and was supported by his partner Angela.

 

A fortunate decision in the long run as the bufoon leading UKIP whilst Farage ‘showed off & came a dismal 3rd. in Buckinghamshire, betrayed the party by waiting until the last minute and calling on UKIP’s candidate to withdraw and support The Tories!
Organisational skills and propensity for listing the work we all have to do makes Niall a natural Leader, bringing his military organisational skills to bear and those of a regional manager for Bass over 25 years!

It is not just that I have known Niall Warry well for almost 15 years that I have offered him a ‘Guest Posting’ but that he has proved to be consistently honest and a dedicated and patriotic EUroReal;ist for so very many years.

I also largely agree with the stance he takes on most issues:

Hi,
When the German papers start to question the Euro you know there is no doubt it is doomed ( see link below).
Sadly if you are relying on our National media for the REAL stories on the Euro crisis you are I’m afraid going to be disappointed.
Apart from the Express the rest editorially still believe we should remain in the EU and renegotiate our terms of membership.
What they fail to understand is that the existing EU treaties especially The Lisbon Constitution Treaty makes it impossible to renegotiate our terms without invoking Article 50 which declares you want to leave.
Only then will a country be able to negotiate with the EU about its terms of membership. No Article 50 no negotiations it really is that simple.
The truth is if you want to really understand what is happening in the EU you need to follow REAL experts like Richard North who along with Christopher Booker of the Daily Telegraph co-wrote the must read book ‘The Great Deception’.
Here is latest contribution from his blog today.   http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=82964
Although Richard’s blog is called EU Referendum it covers ALL the major items of news which concern us including the EU, Defence, Climate Change and British politics etc.
With regards to British politics Richard was the main speaker at a conference I organised on his behalf in Harrogate on the July 14th. There were 33 of us who all shared a belief that before things can be really be improved in our country then our current Parliamentary system of governance needs to be reformed.
As the Chartist had before in 1834 we produced a draft 6 demands in what became our ‘Harrogate Agenda’ and when fully developed and refined will become our ‘Harrogate Declaration’ for better governance.
Richard’s blog is being used as the vehicle for debate and hopefully we will have our Declaration finalised by this  Autumn.
If you are interested to follow the debate and indeed  read news analysis that is REAL then I highly recommend you read Richard North’s blog each day.
Niall Warry.
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It is sad to realise just howmany individuals and activists of value, vision, integrity & patriotism have left UKIP since 2004 CLICK HERE and just how low grade has been both the achievements and the integrity of their replacements and how since 2004 they have moved from being so very many peoples’ hopes to lead the cause of Leave-The-EU to increasingly turn from torch bearer to damp squib as part of the problem rather than any realistic hope of leading to a solution.
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