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Gulleford Fails To Convince re: Tory Policy Statement.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/04/2013

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UKIP’s oleaginous Stuart Gulleford Fails To Convince in his effort to belittle Chris Hudson’s Tory Policy Statement.!!

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Suffolk: Tories’ EU argument infuriates poll rivals

Wednesday, April 24, 20138:46 AM

Christopher Hudson
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TORIES in Central Suffolk and North Ipswich have called for the Government to bring forward a referendum on the future of Britain’s position in the EU to before the 2015 general election

The move comes as parties step up their campaign for the 75 seats on the county council – with some Tories fearing that a strong UKIP performance could cost them votes and seats.

Constituency chairman Christopher Hudson, who is seeking re-election as county councillor for Kesgrave, said: “We Conservatives in this constituency are assuring voters in our area that we are committed to give voters a clear choice on our country’s membership of the EU.

“It is vital that we connect with the people on this central issue ASAP. This matter will not be determined by the county council but by the sovereign will of Parliament.

“Our pledge to voters in this area is genuine, serious, democratic and will indicate grass-roots reaction to this EU membership issue.”

UKIP spokesman Stuart Gulleford was not impressed by the Tories’ move. He said: “This is a blatant attempt at trying to get votes from UKIP supporters.

“We haven’t raised the EU or the referendum because it is not relevant to these elections – but we’re getting a lot of support. Sometimes it’s difficult to find people who aren’t voting UKIP.”

His party is fighting the county council elections with a specific local election manifesto – and is hoping to build on the one seat it won in the 2009 poll which was held on the same day as the European elections.

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I do appreciate that the odious & self serving Gulleford was all too obviously annoyed at being exposed as a cheat when he was rigging meetings to try to become a leading candidate on UKIP’s MEP selection list alonside the liar and cheat Mick McGough and the untrustworthy scoundrel Andrew Smith aided by Annabelle Fuller’s corruption and abuse of data protection laws and betrayal of UKIP trust!
Perhaps the foolish and untrustworthy little man should have stuck with Labour where such ineptitude is seemingly a merit or indulged his obsessive hatred of cats!
When he was willing to use any trick in the book and act dishonestly for his own prefferment it ill becomes him to try to criticise others for making honest efforts to promote their policies.
As for the concept of a Referendum being some sort of unique UKIP policy that is risible – UKIP would seem to have done almost everything they could including outright lies to endeavour to hinder Nikki Sinclaire’s team effort to get sufficient signatures to force a debate in The House of Commons which she achieved despite UKIP’s efforts at sabotage.
Let us not forget that it was UKIP that made much pretence at collecting signatures for a petition and in the event merely syphoned off £1/4Million from the public purse plus donations of an unknown amount and failed to deliver a single solitary signature nor account for one Penny of the money.
It is believed that the money which was unaccounted for was syphoned off into the bank accounts of David Lott, Nigel Farage & Mark Croucher who were supposedly organising what seems to have been little more than a scam.
Meanwhile Nikki Sinclaire’s team received not one Penny from the public purse, over and above her basic personal allowances as an MEP, and have delivered over 250,000 signatures from across the Country and have now founded a Political Party to promote the rights of British citizens to self determination and a straightforward IN/OUT Referendum relative to The EU.
Yet the unpleasant little Gulleford hold forth about stealing policies!
On the subject of UKIP dishonesty in the Eastern Region I note the inquiry by Olaf into the fraudulent use of money by the UKIP MEPs Stuart Agnew and David Bannerma as boasted of to The Sunday Times article by Daniel Foggo drags on, having not yet, it seems, reached their verdict.

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Marta Andreasen MEP Quits Farage’s UKIP & EFD

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/02/2013

Marta Andreasen MEP Quits Farage’s UKIP & EFD
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Marta Andreasen MEP Quits Nigel Farage’s UKIP & their racist, xenophobic, anti Jewish, anti homosexual EFD Pan EU Political Group!!

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Let us not forget that Marta Andreasen was the protege of Niogel Farage, Malcolm Lord Pearson & Huw Williams – 3 utter fools in any political terms, without a shred of leadership skills, competent judgement or reliability let alone loyalty to others between them.

Marta Andreasen was foist on the UKIP members as something of a ‘Bill of Goods’ her status was lied about and her achievements and CV were equally corrupt. Likewise the manner of the dishonesty of her ‘placement‘ by Farage as she stood in more than one Region so as to ensure her appointment and her identity as a resident of these United Kingdoms eligible for election based on a pack of lies from UKIP’s leadership scoundrels.

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22 February 2013 Last updated at 22:52

UKIP MEP Marta Andreasen defects to Conservatives

UKIP leader Nigel Farage and MEP Marta Andreasen Relations between UKIP leader Nigel Farage and MEP Marta Andreasen had become strained.

A senior member of the UK Independence Party has said she is leaving the party to join the Conservatives.

Marta Andreasen, a South East region MEP, sent her resignation letter to UKIP leader Nigel Farage on Friday.

It comes two weeks after she accused the UKIP leader of bullying and being “anti-women” and “a Stalinist” and threatened to leave the party.

In response, Mr Farage said the Tories “deserve what is coming to them” and added: “The woman is impossible.”

Marta Andreasen, 58, said resigning from UKIP to join the Conservatives was not a decision that she took lightly.

In an open letter expressing her dissatisfaction with UKIP, she accused Mr Farage of treating any views other than his own with contempt.

Ms Andreasen said she did not believe the party could offer “real leadership”.

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The woman is impossible”

Nigel Farage UKIP leader

She said Mr Farage surrounded himself with “an old boys club of like-minded sycophants”, whereas Conservative leader David Cameron had shown “he can listen, adapt and do what is right for the country, not just for personal gain”.

The MEP said the prime minster’s speech on Britain’s relationship with the EU last month had convinced her the Conservatives were the “true referendum party”.

Conservative Party Chairman Grant Shapps said he was “delighted” to welcome her to his party.

“She brings a wealth of experience – and a dedication to fight for what’s best for the British people in Europe,” he said.

Meanwhile, in a statement issued on Friday, the UKIP leader said: “Having left the OECD, the European Commission and UKIP in unpleasant circumstances, the Conservative Party deserve what is coming to them.

“The woman is impossible.”

Sole femaleRelations between Ms Andreasen and Mr Farage had been strained for some time, with Ms Andreasen calling for Mr Farage to quit after the party’s poor performance in council elections in 2011.

Since then, UKIP’s fortunes have improved and it recorded its best performance in a parliamentary by-election in Rotherham in December.

Ms Andreasen, who is Spanish but was born in Argentina, worked as an auditor and financial director for various companies before working as an accountant for the European Commission in 2002.

She later joined UKIP and was elected in 2009. She currently sits on six committees in the European Parliament.

Ms Andreasen had been UKIP’s sole remaining female MEP, after Nikki Sinclaire was expelled from the party in 2010.

Ms Sinclaire later brought a sexual discrimination case against the party which was subsequently dropped.

At the time, UKIP issued a statement affirming its “opposition to discrimination on all grounds as prescribed by law and otherwise” and stressed that sexuality was “no bar to involvement or advancement” within the party.

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The Tories may well make show of welcoming Marta Andreasen, par5ticularly at such a propitious time, as an endorsement of David Campbell’s duplicitous fudged promise of a referendum on The EU and his pretence that he can renegotiate the terms of Britain’s entrapment in The EU scam – the date of the betrayal of UKIP by Marta Andreasen is also of value in exposing the irrelevance of UKIP in the Eastleigh by election.

I believe the Tories will live to regret their involvement with this duplicitous foreigner just as they do with regard to the previous betrayal of UKIP by the dishonest and duplicitous scoundrel David Bannerman.

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A BOOK Scheduled To Publish Details of UKIP corruption for 2014!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/10/2012

A BOOK Scheduled To Publish Details of UKIP corruption for 2014!
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A BOOK Scheduled To Publish Details of UKIP corruption for 2014 in time for the election – by a former Tory who considers her defection to UKIP to have been a gross error – despite being selected as a UKIP PPC and joining the payroll working for the clearly untrustworthy and odious self serving and corrupt low life Gerard Batten!!!

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Tell-all book by UKIP staffer to expose ‘party corruption and racism’

3:48pm Fri October 12th

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A former UKIP staffer and parliamentary candidate at the last general election claims to be writing a book revealing dodgy goings-on at the core of the party having branded her defection from the Conservativesthe biggest mistake of my life“.

Jasna Badzak defected to UKIP in 2008, along with a swathe of Tories from Westminster, and stood in the Westminster North constituency in the 2010 elections. She then worked for six months as a press officer in the London office of MEP Gerard Batten.

In a series of messages on Twitter, Badzak has claimed that she will be making revelations about the alleged racism and corruption of top UKIP figures.

Great to see so many @ConsFuture members supporting Christine Emmett’s campaign in Corby and East Northants. Follow @byelection for updates.

I was prominent Tory, stood for Tories, defected to ,stood in GE2010 for UKIP the biggest mistake of my life @ConsFuture @Conservatives

As a former Parliamentary Candidate I know are racist party, wanting ‘rights for indigenous white Anglo-Saxons’ and nobody else

She also alleges misuse of EU parliament expenses by old Scrapbook favourite and UKIP candidate for Humberside Police & Crime Commissioner, Godfrey Bloom:

Just for you @johnprescott will Police CC Bloom reveal why he uses his parliamentary expenses to pay his private company staff @labour

And her claims don’t stop with Bloom, and threaten to plunge the party back into the same kind of controversy experienced when former MEP Ashley Mote was convicted of benefit fraud:

I will also be providing all detailed account of all MEP abusing their parliamentary expenses @bopanc @johnprescott @DavidPrescott

Speaking to Political Scrapbook this afternoon, Ms Badzak said:

 ”UKIP solely exists to put a few people in the position of MEP to steal as much money as possible for themselves.”

Apparently her book will be out before the 2014 EU Parliament elections, in which Nigel Farage’s party hopes to improve on its second place coup in the 2009 poll. When contacted, UKIP refused to comment.

Scrapbook looks forward to reading.

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  1. Gawain Towler
    Posted October 12, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    You didn’t contact this office. Not that we would have commented. But don’t make it up

  2. Posted October 12, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    No one is making anything up. I called the UKIP press twice, and both times they said they didn’t want to comment.

    When I called Gerard Batten’s office I didn’t even get an answer.

  3. Lawrence
    Posted October 12, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    Hmmm, given that every human being on the planet has racist thoughts, can someone please tell me what is to be gained by policing human nature?

    LEft-wingers……they never learn.

  4. Daniel Henry
    Posted October 12, 2012 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think Jasna is complaining about “racist thoughts” Lawrence. The accusation seems to be of a racist agenda that would marginalise non-whites and non-British. I hope that’s not something you’re trying to defend!

    While we might all have racist thoughts, just as we all have have horrible thoughts of purge types (e.g. Hate and violence) to allow these horrible thoughts to set an agenda is completely unacceptable. No one’s talking about “policing thoughts”, we’re talking about actions that discriminate and marginalise people simply because of their race or background.

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UKIP continues to crash and burn!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/09/2012

UKIP continues to crash and burn!

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UKIP continues to crash and burn!
So it seems from the facts and actual election results!

Looking beyond the spin & media puff!

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UKIP continues to crash and burn!

Forget all the spin about UKIP replacing the Lib Dems! Forget all Farage’s bluster about how well UKIP is doing!

Forget the opinion polls and just check out the latest election results. See the reality for what it really is!

The media are even presenting the pretence that UKIP is doing well to generate a story and with the left wing press using it to embarrass The Tories and LibDims.

Farage is even talking of ‘pacts’ as he stated on BBC News he would form an alliance with either Labour or Tory if they offered an In / Out Referendum – why he believes any party would wish to enter suchg an alliance Farage has been unable to explain when one realises his party is nowhere near likely to get a single MP.

The much vaunted claim that they have damaged the Tories and cost them seats as the justifying spin when one remembers that Farage and others in his clique claim they recruit as many Tories as they do Labour! This totally sabotages the myth that UKIP can make a valid partner for anyone – hence we hear UKIP talking a big game but one that proves unfounded when their potential partners are questioned!

UKIP is going nowhere under Farage. UKIP is now a total irrelevance in British politics. Just look at recent by election results:

Canterbury City – Blean Forest ward:

C 342,
Lab 185,
Lib Dem 121,
Green 64,
Ukip 38,
Ind 24.
(May 2011 Two seats:
C 626, 568, Green 400, 300, Lib Dem 184, 173).
THUS:
C hold. Swing 4.2% C to Lib Dem.
Cornwall County – St Keverne and Meneage ward:
C 585,
Lib Dem 279,
Ukip 141,
Lab 52.
(June 2009:
Ind 673, C 657, Ind 356, Lib Dem 127, Ind 67, Lab 33).
THUS:
C gain from Ind. Swing 0.5% Lib Dem to C.

Lincolnshire County – Nettleham and Saxilby ward:

C 1026,
Lib Dem 600,
Ukip 266,
Lab 257,
Lincolnshire Ind 196,
English Democrats 21.
(June 2009:
Lib Dem 2012, C 1129, Lab 184).
THUS:
C gain from Lib Dem. Swing 22.2% Lib Dem to C.

Nottinghamshire County – Rufford ward:

Lab 1557,
C 660,
Notts Ind 346,
Ukip 123.
(June 2009:
Ind 1309, C 1259, Lab 1109).
THUS:
Lab gain from Ind. Swing 18.7% C to Lab.

Scarborough Borough – Esk Valley ward:

C 606,
Ind 151,
Lab 87,
Ukip 35,
English Democrats 18.
(May 2011 – Two seats:
C 1183, 928, Ind 417, Lab 379). C hold. Swing 10.7% Lab to C.

South Gloucestershire Council – Dodington ward:

Lib Dem 787,
Lab 243,
Ukip 213,
C 139.
(May 2011 – Two seats:
Lib Dem 1340, 1324,
C 452, 429,
Lab 294, 285).
THUS:
Lib Dem hold. Swing 5.6% Lib Dem to Lab.

West Lindsey District – Nettleham ward:

C 565,
Lib Dem 513,
Ukip 177.
(May 2011 – Two seats:
Lib Dem 1238, 1108,
C 804, 559).
THUS:
C gain from Lib Dem. Swing 15.3% Lib Dem to C.

You will note that UKIP couldn’t even field a candidate in some constituencies!
eg.:

Herefordshire County – St Nicholas ward:

It’s Our County 608,
Lib Dem 222,
C 204,
Lab 104.
(May 2011 – Two seats:
It’s Our County 821, 607,
C 423, 279,
Lib Dem 320, 312, Lab 273). THUS:
It’s Our County hold. Swing 1.8% C to Lib Dem.
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‘Prober’ is likely to be defamed by UKIP’s Toxic Claque

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/08/2012

‘Prober’ is likely to be defamed by UKIP’s Toxic Claque

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

‘Prober’ is likely to be defamed by UKIP’s Toxic Claque!
I expect he works for MI5 or MI6 or is funded by The EU or The Tory Party & how much is he being paid – We should be told!

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such a pity that ‘Prober’ lacked the conviction or perhaps self confidence to put his name to the very clear and largely spot on accurate posting he has made, on Anthony Butcher’s corrupt little UKIP controlled forum – where any lie is accepted from the UKIP gutter snipes with their faux pretence of manners as they sneer and snipe, whilst themselves all too often too cowardly and ashamed to put their names to their vile comments and duplicitous distortions.
You can hear it all lined up:
He works for MI5 or The CIA or The EU and no one would tell the truth unless they were paid, and any other vile distortion from the underbelly of politics that we have heard time and again, so damagingly for UKIP, from its odious claque.
No – whatever the pond life from UKIP comes out with it is clear they can not reasonably with any intelligent presentation or intellectual gravitas refute or even put a sound point of view to counter ‘Prober’s’ statements of irrefutable fact.
UKIP has a broad “out ” aim but seems to have no strategy or pathway or campaign aims and no real strategic measures of success of stepping stones to achieving “out”.
For example it rates gaining more MEPs as a major success achievement but has never had any plan to focus the time resources and £ of MEPs to actually do anything to further ” out” ( Hence most MEPs being engaged in irrelevant displacement activity and Marta fiddling on committees in Brussels, with UKIP’s Brussels success ticked off as achieved by winding up Gollum in Brussels) .
So getting more MEPs doesnt necessarily mean ANY advance in success in achieving “out” ( even if UKIP won all MEP seats and the mega £ that goes with it )

Winning local authority seats is rated as success but UKIP has no idea what it wants to do in those seats either to advance “out” or advance a domestic political aim.

Getting a higher % vote is rated as success and the publicity that goes with it but that is only a success if it puts fear in other parties to stop them doing things to advance the EU cause .

UKIP has no MP failure targetted pressure/publicity strategy focussed on key stages ( eg EU budget or parliament nodding through more EU legislation ) to install such fear.
Is there any evidence that UKIP has influenced ANY of Cameron’s Europhile decisions ? If so UKIPs web site would be crowing about it not just moaning about whats going on.

Scoring higher % potentially puts fear into Europhile MPs that UKIP will target and embarrass them for their remaining term in office and install realisation in Tory branches that UKIP is going to lose them their seat at the next election unless they select a EU sceptic Tory candidate .

UKIP has no such “make life miserable” targeting .

Very small parties like SWP achieve influence by infiltration into other other parties .

UKIP has no infiltration strategy.

A success aim would be a high level of public understanding and approval of

a) What EU does and why EU is bad for their pockets and health
b) the legal pathway to a referendum on out and legislation to achieve out
c) A vision for and how UK would operate successfully politically economically and in trade after achieving out
d) A vision of what a new “progressive” EU would look like after return of powers to national democracy
e) What UKIP’s role would be after “out”. UKIP does none of these education things ( and historically says public education is not its job even to the extent it cant be bothered to design it own schools pack to replace the EU one )

At present press talk is of Farage offering not to put up candidates to oppose EU sceptic candidates but except for very few, Tory EU sceptic MPs have always rolled over when the whips say “jump” so having neutralised itself how does this strategically advance UKIP’s aim of “out” ? (Cameron wont allow joint candidates)

The effect of UKIP standing in all seats at a general election under its classic hand off statement of  “all other parties are just the same ” will be Labour winning the general election with its Europhile candidates not exposed or threatened by UKIP.

Fair enough but whats the strategic plan in all this to further the cause of “out” with Labour winning ?
How will it make more likely Labour will commit to a referendum ?
For example there is major opportunity to challenge the anti democracy position of the Europhile anti UKIP bigoted far left in Labour and make the case of national democracy being consistent with patriotic democratic socialist principles and work and family based values.

UKIP seems more a lazy sham party with members as lemmings following the leader wherever he points, with phony yardsticks of success , riding on macro events in its favour which give it a phony approval rating as the only protest vote party of significance , and actually deliberately detached from what is really needed to make a political impact .

So whats UKIP’s real aim ?

To destroy and replace the Tory Party ?
To that UKIP will really have to get serious .
To keep NF as leader doing his thing and having a wonderful time unchallenged as long as poss ?
To get the Tory party to offer NF a safe seat as MP to neutralise UKIP ?
To put enough fear and pressure on the Tory Party to ditch Cameron turn round and do the right thing …. again UKIP will really have to start to get serious … especially on infiltration.

An alternative out route would be to build a Pan Europe “out” movement electing “out” MEPs to achieve change from within .

NF seems to want this but cant carry his party with him.

UKIP, whilst claiming “most people agree with us” has never tried to connect with the public as a domestic party ( hence disastrous results at Buckingham and in London) or as a Respect route protest vote party, and thus has no prospect of winning an MP seat.

Hence the route to “success” will be achieving like minded MPs being elected in Labour & Tory parties. ( Lib Dems being totally opposed to national sovereign democracy )

In summary therefore other than ” existing because it exists” and congratulating itself on “success” whats UKIP for ? and what is its pathway and strategic plan to achieve it ?

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All on a thread titled ‘What Do UKIP Stand For’ I submit one only needs to read the postings of the UKIP leadership supporters on that very thread to realise!
UKIP stands for the very worst form of gutter politics, playground level bullying, corruption and dishonesty – based largely upon the self interests of a small clique of self serving, self enriching low lifes who are defended by a claque of cowardly, dishonest wannabes funded from  or encouraged by the riches of The Gravy Train, which are in the gift of Nigel Farage.
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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians,  and Snivil Cervants having conveniently forgotten that they are our servants and not our masters as taxation has inexorably climbed to fund their ambitions and the value of money has diminished as the publish ever more to cover-up their incompetences all enforced by the new style self serving and politicised enforcers The Police aided by increasingly corrupted Courts.

Astonishingly this odious betrayal of OUR Country and its values is aided and colluded in by the MSM as entertainment so readily plunges ever further to the gutter creating people who become famous for the size of their rewards and their notoriety as ‘celebs’!.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, as even if ALL Britain’s MEPs agreed and were of one party they amount to less than 8% of the input and a miniscule proportion of decision making!

Clearly The EU is set up to ensure its very size and diversity ensures democracy is self cancelling and ever more power falls into the hands of the unelected self styled and utterly corrup elite – None of whom have one iota of democratic mandate to back their corrupt social engineering and EUgenics.

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Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In over 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that goal, despite their claimed unanimity of aim!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country, Anglosphere and indeed planet which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Self evidently ‘The Harrogate Agenda‘ may not be the answer but that men and women are responsibly striving to create a better system for a better world deserves all the help we can give it whether with ideas, participation or merely our support.

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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

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Not just Cameron who is faced by a Challenge!

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It seems Nigel Farage who controls UKIP & the pan EU political group of The EFD would seem to be faced by his very own challenge!!

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with the resignation of Louise Mensch from the Tory Party in Corby & East Northants just a few hours ago comes a clear challenge for UKIP’s leadership
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One is forced to wonder whether Nigel Farage will be as lax in responding to the challenge this has given rise to, as Cameron has been in responding to the challenge from The Farage Party over a debate and possibly for the very same reasons – Farage probably believes that Alan Hardy is irrelevant and going nowhere.
Here is Alan Hardy’s not unreasonable and clear challenge – which I might add is not without fairly general support, in loose terms and principle, amongst the more active and brighter supporters of UKIP – though the small army in the UKIP leadership claque, funded by the largess in the gift of Farage as many are, may well see their route to the gravy train challenged!

Dear Mr Farage,
 
You will by now have heard that the above member of parliament has applied for the Stewardship of the Chiltern Hundreds. This, of course, paves the way for a by-election.
 
We have all heard your recent boast that UKIP has overtaken the Lib-Dems to become the third most popular political party. According to you, it seems, UKIP is riding high in the polls and, presumably, it is just a matter of time before we have representation in the House of Commons under your leadership. No doubt UKIP will be fielding a candidate in the forthcoming by-election with high expectation of, at long last, make its presence felt and, in so doing, vindicating you.
 
Now it is no secret that you and your sycophants (Crowther, Greaves, Duffy, Parkin to name but a few) would, inter alia, dance a jig if I left the UKIP. I, on the other hand, am remaining a member against the day when it has leadership worthy of support and respect. Well I have a proposition for you: If the UKIP candidate in the above by-election comes within 5,000 votes of the winner then I will resign my membership. If, however, he/she does not, then you resign your post as party leader. 
 
I look forward to your reply.
 
REGARDS
 
ALAN HARDY

Indeed the Corby & East Northants seat could well be the perfect proving ground to judge by the lies and duplicity of the low life traitor UKIP has for an MEP in the region – Derek Clark!Let us also remember they have a very highly paid Regional Organiser who boasted of his net salary of £800 a week when hauled before the Courts for utter irresponsibility as a drunk driver – one would think a taxi driver would know better than to behave thus!

At least organisation would be no problem! It is also in one of UKIP’s star regions as it was, almost electing 3 MEPs in 2004, though with Derek Clark & Ron Ransom milking the gravy train for all it was worth the membership has somewhat collapsed, and of course Clark was found guilty of defrauding the public purse and ordered to repay the money he had taken which may well not help.
Ransome will have course have all the time in the world on his hands to Organise Regionally and in Corby & Northants specifically with Derek Clark currently away on one of his long holidays and no longer being on The Regional Committee having stompped off in a huff with both his wife and Derek Clark in contempt of UKIP electorate and belief in democracy being unable to explain their corruption, dishonesty, lies and defamatory comments it seems!
However am I not right that there is a worthy contender for the seat in the guise of a chap who lays claim to being ex Military, a barrister by training, though I understand his bankruptcy precludes him from plying his trade! His connections are, I am reliably informed, impeccable with a Baronett for a son in law and a thriving bed and breakfast business on his estate!
With all these choices open for UKIP to clearly see Farage put our money where his mouth is we can but hope he rises to the challenge.
This could possibly be the springboard to Government for Nigel Farage – not licking the boots of the Tories as some makeweight junior partner bought off with an easy seat, but in his own right, via contesting Chris Huhne’s seat in Eastleigh – for many will remember the speed and alacrity with which Farage stepped up to the plate to denounce Huhne in the first place!
At least Alan Hardy delivers his own challenges on ground he prepared, unlike Farage following in the footsteps of Nikki Sinclaire’s challenge to Downing Street with 100,000+ signatures, that forced a full scale debate in Parliament, on the issue of Leaving-The-EU – she even attended the delivery in her own ‘Ad-van’ a style emulated by Farage though Farage failed to present with cross party support and various MPs!
The Corby & East Northants by election could just be the springboard to turn UKIP fortunes around from being utterly irrelevant to being of some significance for let’s face it a vaulte face would not be out of character when you consider how clearly the Farage Party denounced The Olympics yet how vociferously they now ride on the coattails of success – Will we shortly see Farage selling out UKIP for his own rewards and actively campaigning for Boris Johnson as his new leader!!
We understand that Paul Nuttall is standing in the wings ready to do a knife job on Farage the second he feels he could get away with it and it is for this reason he has been criss crossing the country willing to attend the opening of an envelope to garner popularity with the mass of dullards and politically infantile new supporters of The Farage Party – Particularly if the testament of Jasna Badzak exposing Gerard Batten is, as it seems, founded in veracity as she attests.
Batten might at one time have hoodwinked some that he might have been a contender but his association with criminals, the extremists and his efforts to incite racial hatred as shown by his anti Islamic tracts indicate must surely preclude anyone of any moral fiber supporting his though he can count on support of those without morality or ethics, particularly amongst UKIP MEPs and leadership clique and its claque.
Let us see if Farage will respond positively & rapidly to the challenge or lay himself open to the sneering and posturing we have seen him mete out to David Cameron for not jumping when he clicks his fingers!It is interesting to see The Guardian treading its usual billious line for the left, and rubbing salt in the Tory wounds at the loss of Louise Mensch – when they were giving it large a day or two ago, selectively promoting UKIP as a popular partner for the Tories!

Hardly, when one sees their risible results in British domestic elections, as they are hardly relevant, with less than 30 seats of any consequence, elected out of some 19,500 available and let us accept that many of those elected are more of a liability than a benefit to UKIP!

Realistically they are of no meaningful consequence politically other than an EU protest vote where they achived their route to corruption by the orchestration of the farce of Nigel Farage’ own personal Reichstag Fire moment followed by a faux Crystel Nacht aided by the odious Mark Thatcher and others of similar ilk as they built up The BNP to two seats in The EU and defamed and denigrated to gain stature at the expense of decent men and women – including Tories of some note.

As it is realised that the route ahead to Leave-The-EU is via Article 50 UKIP’s role will become less and less significant and more obviously so as even after 20 years UKIP has no clear exit and survival strategy and clearly little understanding of the complexities of revoking The ECA or 1972 and the subsequent difficulties – Their only defence being to defame and denigrate those who have some understanding of the matter – not to enhance UKIP’s position towards a concept of Leave-The-EU but in some idiotic self interest sold to their willing dupes to ensure Farage and his cliques well being and self enrichment it would seem..

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UKIP gets a somewhat dubious result in The FoD!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/08/2012

UKIP gets a somewhat dubious result in The FoD!
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UKIP gets a somewhat dubious result in The FoD!

It is hard to see how the achievement of 16% of the electorate voting a man with Alan Preest’s track record onto even a council as irrelevant as he has gained can help UKIP!

Surely UKIP should seek to improve its record of honesty at all cost, not link its reputation with such a man for so paltry and insignificant a post!

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it seems that despite a relatively high profile PPC in The FoD and the long term home of UKIP’s full time umbrella salesman who has for many years held a well paid UKIP job the best they seem to have managed is a largely irrelevant TOWN councillor!
To be fair Alan Preest obtained a VERY good percentage, with 74% of the 22% who turned out to vote giving 16% of the electorate (which would tend to reflect the irrelevance of town & parish councils where frequently for lack of interest town clerks tend to try to fill the seats by co-option).
The result was even more interesting when you note Alan Preest had been a COUNTY councillor but was seemingly forced out over controversy and would seem to have been forced to resign from The Tory Party due to his inability to clear his name as a common thief.
Of course he fits right in with a certain sector of UKIP leadership and its odious and dishonest claque.
HOW can UKIP be taken seriously if time and time again it opts to aid and promote liars, cheats, thieves and low calliber wannabes?
You may recal the idiotic comment of the proven liar and cheat Mick McGough CLICK HERE who asked on the dishonest and squalid UKIP controlled public forum owned by Anthony Butcher:

Do MEP staffers write for the Junius/GLW axis

With both sites carrying a piece from a MEP staffer do they write for them or are the articles pillaged?

I think we should be told

Firstly since when are Junius blog and those who post to it and myself an ‘axis’ – there are many supporters of the principle of Leave-The-EU who would like to see UKIP cleaned up and the low lifes and scoundrels who have hitched a ride on the gravy train removed to make UKIP fit for purpose with basic ethics that would justify the votes of decent, moral, informed individuals to turn UKIP into a force for leadership of the Leave-The-EU movement – honesty and probity, transparency and duty may be alien concepts to Mick McGough and his self seeking ilk currently aiding The EU’s control of these United Kingdoms.
Whether the all too obvious assistance these odious UKIPpers give the EU is deliberate or through dishonesty and stupidity is a moot point, though the track record would seem to indicate it is done out of self interest and with no thought of others and in betrayal of these United Kingdoms.
I appreciate this silly little man is, in this instance, only mischief making and dishonestly setting up a piece to try to defame myself and those who contribute to ‘Junius’ based on his lies, distortions and general lack of understanding of ethics, morality or common decency – a trait followed by many of UKIP’s leadership and its cowardly claque of internet liars and stalkers.
Just as with the article Mick McGough queried it was clearly stated the origins of the article and fully sourced by me. It was also pointed out that it was first published on an EU originated blog written by an EU employee Gary Cartwright who is employed by the EU in an official capacity working for the non ‘escrit’ aligned group of MEPs and happens to be assigned to work for Mike Nattrass, Trevor Colman and Nikki Sinclaire.
Just as I have shown in virtually every factual case I have published both the origins of the facts published and why I incline to believe them, as I believe truthfulness and accuracy are important both in blogging and life.
In the instance below regarding UKIP’s newly elected town councillor his track record of seemingly being forced to resign both as a county councillor and as a Tory member anmd councillor would clearly seem to be because he is a thief – and the source of the information is clearly shown – this being my practice to seek to ensure accuracy despite the lies of Mick McGough which are clearly proven and well documented snd hid desperate attempts to dishonestly defame.
Challenged to substantiate his lies about my blog and that of Junius; Mick McGough has proved beyond doubt his claims were dishonest.
The very best he can come up with in 1,000s of postings on my blogs is that I ‘may’ have misused technical jargon/information relative to his work experiemce as a bean counter, relative to accountants/auditors overseeing accounts etc., as is their job as hirelings for people and companies!!
Would anyone of any probity wish to have a low life liar like Mick McGough (an NEC placeman for UKIP) anywhere near their accounts when he is well documented as untrustworthy and dishonest CLICK HERE
With the undeniable track record of dishonesty, corruption, lies and theft of UKIP MEPs, leadership and senior figures Alan Preest will be in suitable company as anb unrehabilitated thief it seems yet with the claim:
More recently, he played a key role in digging up financial irregularities at Lydney Town Council which led to a rebuke for the authority from the Audit Commission’.
Alan Preest could find both fellow travellers and if he has in fact decided to go straight he would have a long term and full time job exposing the financial irregularities of UKIP – perhaps he would be well advised to hire a team and take on apprentices to keep up as clearly with the length of time the police take investigating the dishonesty of the likes of Tom Wise, David Bannerman, Stuart Agnew, John Ison, Derek Clark and others and failing to understand ‘Justice delayed is justice denied’ perhaps he could help clean up UKIP.

Alan’s comeback

Saturday, August 04, 2012

ALAN Preest will make a return to local government after being elected back onto Lydney Town Council.

Mr Preest, a former Conservative councillor who joined UKIP last year, won the by-election for the council’s Lydney North ward with 73.9 per cent of the vote this week.

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He returns to the council from which he resigned in July last year.

Mr Preest said: “I’d like to thank the people of Lydney North for putting their trust in me and I look forward to re-joining the council, where I will continue where I left off, by leaving no stone unturned as I seek to ensure that the council works in the best interests of our community.”

Mr Preest is a former district and county councillor but has been embroiled in controversy before.

In 2008, he resigned from the Conservative Party after failing to clear his name for shoplifting.

He continued as an independent councillor but was then suspended from Forest of Dean District Council in 2009 for “totally unacceptable behaviour” at a public meeting in Lydney. He was reinstated but lost his seat by just seven votes in last year’s local elections.

More recently, he played a key role in digging up financial irregularities at Lydney Town Council which led to a rebuke for the authority from the Audit Commission.

Professor Tim Congdon CBE, from Huntley, UKIP Forest of Dean’s Parliamentary spokesman, said: “This is an excellent result, well deserving of the effort and hard work that has been put in by Alan and his team.

“UKIP Forest of Dean look forward to future local elections, and giving the people of the Forest area the chance to vote for a fresh political party, whose message is becoming increasingly popular, at a time that public faith in the mainstream parties continues to diminish.”

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Trying to make UKIP Sound Relevant

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 28/06/2012

Trying to make UKIP Sound Relevant
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Trying to make UKIP Sound Relevant!
All that is achieved is showing them to be a shoddy, naff & undeniable failure, even accepting the results shown in just one loaded poll UKIP is so far short of votes in domestic politics, even with the claimed 13% that provides not a single seat!
It is increasingly clear UKIP is just a rich gamblers attempt at personal relevance & a self enriching seat on the EU gravy train for a clique of unprincipled rascals!

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The UK Independence Party is a serious threat to the Conservatives

Nigel Farage, “an exceptional anecdotalist and very good company,” has made UKIP a political force

For Peter Kellner’s YouGov charts and analysis, click here


The man who is bankrolling the United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP) lives and works at a penthouse in the heart of Mayfair, next to the famous Italian restaurant Cipriani. Etched into the building are the words “Too many laws, too few examples.” Inside, the lift ascends to a top floor sitting room with French windows opening onto a balcony overlooking central London. A maid prepares coffee with chocolate Bourbon biscuits. Then, up some steps, in sea-blue shirtsleeves, comes the unassuming figure of Stuart Wheeler, the 76-year-old multi-millionaire who a decade ago gave generously to the Conservatives and is now donating funds to UKIP.

Led by the telegenic Nigel Farage, UKIP is a now a serious political party. This year, it has doubled its support to 8 per cent, according to YouGov figures, on the back of dislike of Europe and immigration. In April, three polls showed UKIP as Britain’s “third party,” above the Lib Dems and peaking at 11 per cent. In the May local elections, UKIP averaged 13 per cent of the vote in the seats it contested. The party appears to have clinched a place as the acceptable face of nationalism, with its rival on the right, the BNP, seen by many as racist (a charge the BNP denies).

Commentators expect UKIP to perform very well at the European elections in June 2014. Farage claims that UKIP will replace the Lib Dems as Britain’s third party—a goal that is not impossible as the Lib Dems face potential devastation at the next general election, the penalty for their coalition with the Tories. But the Conservative party, divided over Europe, has most to fear. Polls regularly show a small majority of voters in favour of withdrawal from the EU. Yet Cameron is known not to want a referendum because of the priority of the Eurozone crisis, and the likelihood that a referendum would further split the Tory party.

There are two men who count in UKIP: Farage, leader from 2006-2009 and again since 2010, and Stuart Wheeler, generous donor since 2009. They are very different characters, but both show that UKIP can no longer be dismissed in British politics.

Farage acknowledges privately that his job is made easier with the Tories in power, as the compromises of office inevitably let down some Eurosceptic Conservative voters (Peter Kellner, p35). Wheeler’s sights are firmly set on his former Conservative allies. In his gentlemanly and soft-spoken way, Wheeler attacks the “Europhile” David Cameron. Wheeler gave UKIP “about £90,000” last year. In a move that will worry senior Conservatives, he is actively wooing disillusioned Eurosceptic Tory MPs to defect to UKIP.

“I have written to five different Eurosceptic Conservative MPs inviting each of them to have lunch with me, alone, without knowing who the others were,” he says. “All five accepted.” These lunches were “all very friendly. Whether anything will come of it is another matter. I mean I didn’t actually invite them necessarily to come over [to UKIP] but… It’s a hell of a thing of course for an MP to come over because, unlike an MEP who can more or less be guaranteed a seat in the European parliament as UKIP rather than Conservatives, your chance of being elected to the Commons as UKIP is very remote, because of the first-past-the-post system.”

However, some Tory MPs face problems with changes to the boundaries of their constituencies. These include Nadine Dorries, the outspoken backbencher who has described Cameron and George Osborne as “arrogant posh boys.” Wheeler will “neither confirm nor deny” any names of his lunch guests, but does agree that those with boundary problems are potential targets. “That’s true, and those who are near retirement and don’t want to be reselected or anything—they might be possibles, yes.”

“We’d be delighted for anyone to come over but I’m not going into who I have seen and haven’t seen,” he adds. Asked about Dorries he does say: “Well I suppose she has somewhat, I don’t know, well, from what I read, she may have rather burnt her boat with the Conservative party.”

Wheeler, whose background is Eton, Oxford and the Welsh Guards, is credited with inventing “spread betting” on financial markets (allowing people to place wagers on movements in asset prices without actually owning them). He made £90m, as widely reported, in 2000 after floating IG Index, the company he founded in 1974, on the stock market. He sold his final holdings in 2003, and says that “my income is way below my outgoings.” But he is a huge asset for any party, especially in a system which has no caps on individual donations or state funding. In the run-up to the 2001 general election, Wheeler gave £5m to the Conservative party under William Hague’s leadership, becoming the party’s biggest ever donor. But by 2009, he was disillusioned with Cameron’s leadership and announced he would be voting UKIP in the European elections. Wanting to back a party that seeks withdrawal from the EU, Wheeler donated £100,000 to UKIP that year, prompting his expulsion from the Tory party. The incident has left bitterness, with Wheeler claiming that Eric Pickles, then party chairman, “lied” about the way in which he was expelled. Pickles said he called Wheeler; Wheeler says he was sent an email.

Wheeler does not give money only to political causes. “The thing I hate most in life is torture, so 90 per cent of what I give to charities as opposed to political parties does go to the human rights organisations [such as Amnesty International] and it’s torture rather than any other human right that I’m concerned about.” He got involved in Tory politics under the leadership of Hague, who fought the 2001 general election with the slogan “24 hours to save the pound.” “I really didn’t get much interested in politics at all until I was invited to dinner with William Hague at White’s.” Now, however, he is scathing about Hague, Osborne and Cameron, primarily but not only over Europe. “I just think [the Tories] got it very very wrong, and they were not doing anything to protect our interests in the EU, for all they said they were going to. I just thought they were being useless about it and it was much better to support UKIP.”

Cameron is too pro-European for Wheeler. “I’m not being sarcastic when I say I don’t know why he is so Europhile. I literally don’t know.” Does he really think Cameron is “Europhile”? “I do really. Before the last election, people were saying ‘I know that Cameron’s not making very Eurosceptic noises but once he’s in power you’ll see’—well we haven’t seen, absolutely not.”

I put it to Wheeler that Cameron could be said to be one of the most Eurosceptic of Tory leaders, the only one to withdraw from the European People’s Party, the mainstream centre-right group. “Well, he took years to fulfil his promise to do so.” In any case, for Wheeler, the goal is more fundamental: exit and the reclaiming of sovereignty. “I strongly feel we should be out of Europe. But while we’re in it Cameron has made no effort on several important matters, most importantly the regulation of the City of London which is our biggest single earner and produces tax money.”

On the wider domestic agenda, does Wheeler agree with Norman Tebbit and David Davis who have written in Prospect and elsewhere of the Cabinet’s “cronyish” style? “From what I can make out, that does seem to be the case. But also Cameron’s judgement is fantastically bad. How could he have appointed [Andy] Coulson [the former News of the World editor who became Cameron’s head of communications]? And then—what’s he called—Jeremy Hunt [the culture secretary]? Hunt may or may not have done some things he shouldn’t have done, but he had made his [pro-Murdoch] position clear before he took that post, and so it was absolutely obvious that he shouldn’t have been appointed to it. It is obvious Cameron made a gigantic blunder.”

His wider problem with the government is “its pure incompetence. I mean this business—shaming as a British citizen—that people should have to wait three or four hours at British airports to get in; completely foreseeable, very nasty for the people and very bad for our reputation. How on earth did it happen?”

On the coalition, Wheeler echoes the view expressed by Tories on the right: that the Liberal Democrats are too influential. The Lib Dems, he says, “would be destroyed if there was an election. So, I think either he is just frightened when he shouldn’t be, or it’s a convenient excuse for doing what he wants anyway.”

Wheeler would consider giving money to the Tories again only “if they gave us a definite in or out [referendum]. But they would have to be much more gutsy on other things. They really are lacking in determination and a vision of where they want to go.” I ask whether he has had any approaches to return to his former party. “No, they just say, ‘Oh Stuart, we’ve got to get you back in the fold one of these days.’ But not so much recently because of things I’ve said.”

Wheeler says he is committed to UKIP, and he expects his party to do better than ever. “I mean it’s fantastic… Outside London we got 13.8 per cent where we stood. One interesting point is that the polls put us at 8 or 9 per cent on that morning, and so there may be something like not wanting to admit that you’re voting UKIP.” He adds that some polls still do not include UKIP as a separate option, offering only the three main parties and “others.” Wheeler believes that the polls “underestimate our support.”

UKIP’s short-term strategy is to force the government into holding a referendum on EU membership. “I’m sure Cameron would absolutely hate it—but the stronger rumour is that Labour is going to back it,” Wheeler says. It is true that Ed Miliband is being lobbied by Ed Balls and others to outflank the Tories and back a referendum. Miliband has yet to make up his mind, but his new head of policy, Jon Cruddas, also backs an in-or-out vote. “It would be a vote-winner I think,” Wheeler says, “because irrespective of which way you vote, most people do want a referendum on it, so I think if Labour does it, the Conservatives may be forced to.” However, on 6th June the Labour leader indicated he was minded not to call for a referendum soon.

The debate about whether to back a referendum cuts across political divides. David Owen, the former leader of the Social Democratic Party (which in 1988 merged with the Liberal Party to form the Liberal Democrats), has proposed a two-question poll, on whether or not to remain in an integrating EU with a view to eventually joining the euro, and whether instead voters would prefer to be “part of the single market in a wider European community.”

Wheeler agrees that the eurozone turmoil would help the “No” cause. But he points out that in the UK’s last Europe referendum in 1975, “the polls showed 6-4 for coming out and the result was 2-1 for staying in.” Though Europe is his great cause, Wheeler emphasises that UKIP projects a wider agenda. “We’re very strong on immigration—we’ll have people who want to work if we need them but not otherwise. The country’s full for the moment. We’d cap it for five years, and so I think we’re much better than the Conservatives on that. Grammar schools we are in favour of. Low taxes we are in favour of. We are sceptical about global warming, and I think that the amount of money that is being spent on that is absolutely astronomical, for a country that can’t afford it.”

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This wider platform is emphasised by Nigel Farage, UKIP’s leader. Farage, who once built his own brokerage firm, believes small businesses and manufacturing are the keys to rebuilding the economy. He dismisses Osborne as having “never had a job” and says the country is being run “by a bunch of college kids.”

I meet Farage at “Europe House,” the headquarters of the EU Commission in London, which also happens to be the site of the old Tory HQ in Smith Square where Margaret Thatcher waved triumphantly from the windows on election nights. Here, Farage and his two press officers have their London base along with other MEPs from rival parties. Before long, we retire to the local pub, the Marquis of Granby, frequented by Tories.

A regular on Question Time, Farage is well known as a campaigner on Europe. Like other outsiders in politics, such as George Galloway and Tommy Sheridan, he has a perma-tan (which is real, from travelling around Europe) and an easy way with ordinary people. But Farage is also an exceptional anecdotalist and very good company, full of insights and gossip about senior politicians. As he sips a pint of real ale (“like a good Burgundy, you never know how it will taste”) and smokes Benson & Hedges cigarettes outside the pub, Farage receives messages from his family about the garden benefiting from the early summer rain. He is a fishing enthusiast and reads widely in military history and politics. When I ask whether he favours proportional representation he says that, having read Roy Jenkins’s report into “AV plus,” that is the system he prefers.

A one-time Tory, Farage was a founding member of UKIP when it was first created in 1993. In 1999, he was elected to the European parliament as MEP for the southeast of England, a position he retains. UKIP was still seen by many as a joke, however, never more so than in 2004 when the Yorkshire and the Humber UKIP MEP Godfrey Bloom declared memorably: “I want to deal with women’s issues, because I just don’t think they clean behind the fridge enough.” That same year, Farage recruited the TV presenter Robert Kilroy-Silk, who was the party’s MEP for the east Midlands. This looked like a masterstroke, but a year later Kilroy, who sought the leadership, resigned, claiming the party was a “joke” and “sitting on its backsides in Brussels.” The then UKIP leader Roger Knapman said he would “break open the champagne,” adding, “It was nice knowing him, now ‘goodbye’.”

It was not until 2006 that Farage took on what proved to be a turbulent leadership, with the aim of changing the perception of UKIP as a “far-right” party. He may not have succeeded fully, but he has dispelled the widespread perception that it is racist. I last spoke to him in 2008, when his party and his own leadership were in crisis, riven with plotting. An unlikely moderniser, Farage was having his own “Clause IV moment”: a battle to expel British National Party infiltrators and broaden the party’s appeal. The battle was bruising, but helpful. Farage had conducted private polling to find out what put people off voting UKIP. He found that he needed to reach out to those who felt they might be “isolationist,” or a closet racist party.  Farage’s UKIP calls for a five year halt to immigration, but has no policy towards those already here. The BNP on the other hand has gone from a policy of “repatriation” of ethnic minorities in the UK to “voluntary repatriation.”

Farage’s breakthrough came in 2009, the year he now says marked the “real beginning” of UKIP. Following the expenses scandal and public alienation from all three main parties, UKIP began soaring in the polls. In May that year, a YouGov poll for The Sun showed UKIP on 15 per cent, only 5 per cent behind the governing Labour Party.

At the European elections in June, UKIP’s seats in the European parliament went up by one to 13. The party beat Labour to second place, winning 16.5 per cent, or 2.5 million votes. Despite this, Farage stepped down as leader, ostensibly to fight the Buckingham seat against the Speaker, John Bercow, at the 2010 general election. He says now that “it was not really about Bercow,” and that he needed a break from the  infighting and management.

In what he tells me was a life-changing experience, Farage was in a light-aircraft crash during the campaign. He walked away from the upturned plane, badly injured and with blood pouring down his face. Farage reveals that “the accident has changed me a bit.” He says he had a short fuse, that he was “the kind of guy” who had shouting matches with other drivers. And now “I don’t let the little things worry me any more.”

In August 2010, while still recovering from his injuries, Farage got a call from his successor as leader, Lord Pearson of Rannoch, who announced he was standing down. Farage urged him to stay, but knew the decision had been made. He stayed up all night smoking before the deadline for deciding whether to stand again. Even at breakfast he had doubts, he says, but he did stand, and won by a huge margin—60 per cent to the runner up’s 20 per cent. Farage, whose decision was influenced by Alex Salmond’s example in serving as SNP leader for a second time, says that this time he has the mandate to lead the party in his own way.

This means more public meetings, at which Farage excels. Every month, he conducts talks around the UK, with jokes, banter and arguing. He is not short on invitations from around Europe and says that “I could spend my whole time travelling.” Social media has been of great use. His appearances inside the European parliament are a hit on YouTube, including the time that he accused Herman Van Rompuy, EU council president, of having “all the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk.” Under the best clips, Farage, who has 35,000 followers on Twitter, receives hundreds of messages of support, some from people in other EU countries, including Greece.

Farage may be on his way to fulfilling his ambition to be an MP—with the help of Wheeler, who plans to target key marginal seats. Pollsters suggest most UKIP voters will “return” to the Conservatives come the general election. It remains doubtful that UKIP will overtake the Lib Dems in the Commons.

At times in our conversation, Farage appears rueful, frustrated and even disdainful about his party. In the past, UKIP has had a toxic element. But through reform, popular public appearances and by broadening its base, Farage has made it a serious force. The next big challenge is the European elections in June 2014. Asked how UKIP will do, Farage says: “We aim to win. We aim to win and cause an earthquake in British politics.”

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It is astonishing just how You Gov has stayed in business when its polls so consistently fail to be representative in the ballot box – clearly we have come no closer to prediction than the ‘Swingometer’ of Bernard Braden .

After almost 20 years even with the ridiculously inflated poll claims of 13% NOTE that does not include the seats where UKIP achieved ZERO% so is an utterly meaningless example of how to lie with statistics!.
UKIP would have to double this 5 to stand ANY chance of winning a Westminster seat and the reality is that out of around 19,500 seats UKIP has achieved less than 30 of any relevance and that includes their near irrelevant MEPs who have become the joke of The EU parliament and are not just largely ignored but have ZERO relevance in decision making!

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UKIP & Mental Health Failures!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 26/05/2012

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UKIP & Mental Health Failures!

UKIP Candidate fails to fill the seat John West was elected to, but has recently vacated due to time commitments!!
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you may remember just how corrupt UKIP leadership and those who were willing to lie, cheat and defame for their own personal enhancement such as the now Tory researcher working for David Bannerman for money, as ever, clearly as long as he can be paid by the EU it seems Peter Reeve has no ethics and less principles!

Or the likes of the low life and serial stalker Mick McGough who is so clearly obsessed with me one wonders if he is in command of any of his mental faculties! He is happy to lie on many subjects for his personal gain but his fantasies and groundless ill informed defamatory comments about me are not only criminal but hugely damage UKIP as a credible Party as he is a member of their executive and also his lies do little to help either The CBI or The Freedom Association.

One has to wonder if he is in fact in the employ of The EU or just a massive fan of the scam as he does so very much to damage the EUroSceptic cause and UKIP in particular.
Many will remember how he lied to promote himself on the UKIP MEP lists and then wandered around at the electoral count trying to intimidate John West & making a complete fool of himself and as ever demeaning UKIP!
Then the idiotic Mick McGough, not content with making a fool of himself tried desperately to get a photo of John West with a BNP member in fram – he did achieve that and made much of it – though the fact was that at the count the BNP member had his back to John West and each was talking to separate individuals!

The poor man is a liability to the EUroSceptic movement as when he was trying desperately to demean John West because he worked as a librarian, completely overlooking the fact that West has written and had published several books!

Much mokery was also made of the fact that in his own right John West was elected to the executive of his local mental health trust!

I note now that West has stood down as he can not afford the time, as he is taking a key role in setting up an Independent Radio Station and has been involved in the acquisition of equipment, studios and the training of new staff & devising schedules etc. I gather his own programmes will start sometime next month.

It should be an interesting series of programmes as he has a wealth of knowledge in several fields – not least of which is politics and political history! Such in fact that UKIP’s leader Malcolm Pearson personally asked him to rejoin UKIP!
Interestingly UKIP put forward a candidate for the mental health position, whether in an attempt to embarrass John West or merely to claim they had been elected to something!

You will note their candidate was not elected, despite the claims of UKIP’s great surge forward when 5% of the electorate and 9 seats out of 4,987 was presented as a huge achievement when clearly it was an embarrassing failure.

UKIP’s candidate in this election also failed to be elected t5o the seat John West had vacated!

Eyes wide shut this UKIP candidate failed to get elected to the job John West had vacated:

‘Eyes Wide Shut’
Cllr. Leon Stedman wants to be noted in UKIP!

So yet again UKIP has befouled its own image having so belittled John West when their own candidate bombed!

I’m sure Mick McGough could have given many tips to Leon Stedman on mental health, from his own personal experiences, delusions, criminality and obsessive fantasies!

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Cleaning-Up UKIP for Electability

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/04/2012

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an interesting article in an ostensibly pro EU paper today which could well be construed as friendly advice:

UKIP leader Nigel Farage tells Radio 4’s Sarah Montague we would be better off ‘by 50million quid a day’ if we quit the EU. Farage is on the up but isn’t it time for him to have a clear-out of extinct Tory volcanoes from the UKIP ranks? Languid old booby Lord Hesketh did them no good on BBC2 recently, drivelling about campaigning as a  seven-year-old with Harold Macmillan, Tory premier from 1957 to 1963. Please!
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To which one could of course add many from the ranks of UKIP with whom UKIP just might become fit for purpose.

Who would you remove or replace to make UKIP electable and credible and remove the all pervasive structure of extremism, racism, anti homosexuality and risible irrelevance?

Perhaps on the grounds of sleaze you might consider:
Niel Hamilton
Derek Clark MEP
Ron Ransome RO
Stuart Agnew MEP
Peter Reeve RO
Annabelle Fuller
Godfrey Bloom MEP
Nigel Farage MEP
Gawain Towler
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?
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Then of course for outright dishonesty and lies:
Annabelle Fuller
Lisa Duffy
Marta Andreassen MEP
Mick McGough NEC
Malcolm Lord Pearson
Nigel Farage MEP
Stuart Parr
Douglas Denny NEC
Derek Clark MEP
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Then consider those who should go for outright stupidity & unprofessionalism (including those who have publicly stated extremist & idiotic views):
Gerard Batten MEP
Tom Bursnall
Alexandra Swann
Malcolm Lord Pearson
Mick McGough NEC
Lord Hesketh
Douglas Denny NEC
Christopher Monkton
Steve Crowther Chairman
Godfrey Bloom MEP
Nigel Farage MEP
Alexandra Swann
Annabelle Fuller
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There are obviously many more and when they are gone it MIGHT go some way to redress the damage they have done and here is a potential list of those of consequence who MIGHT flood back rather than those who get appointed regardless of competence and background on the grounds they will act as praise singers for the clearly unprofessional leadership clique surrounding Nigel Farage, which largely contains those with personal ambitions of self enrichment and the puppets & muppets seeking crumbs from the table in return for their lack of judgement such as:
Jonathan Arnott
Harry Aldridge
Toby Mickelthwaite
Steve Wolff
Heavers, Oakley, Webb, Nuttall, Bufton, Mahoney, Legge, Carver and many more –
many of whom lack even the integrity to put their names to many of their vituperative and dishonest comments as they seek to defame those with views and opinions that support UKIP rather than their cosy climb to glory as The Claque of the current unprofessional, dishonest and corrupt leadership clique.
Clearly UKIP’s domestic political prospects would be greatly enhanced if ALL of these individuals were removed from the party – except perhaps Nigel Farage if he was prepared to behave in an adult and responsible manner with less transparent Hooray Henry idiocy as a servant of the EUroSceptic cause under a stong, credible and competent leader with an understanding of the need for professionalism and gravitas.

Unless changes of this order and style are carried out clearly UKIP has absolutely no chance of any realistic success in domestic politics and without the needed professionalism and leadership they will NEVER lead these United Kingdoms out of the EU.It can clearly be argued that for all their stunts, frippery and fantasies UKIP has infact, at great cost, achieved the sum total of nothing of consequence in the struggle for self determination, sovereignty and independence in these United Kingdoms.

Many even claim that they have proved a gross hinderance to EUroScepticism and a tremendous aid to The EU making the EUroRealist movement (which in fact represents the views of the majority in Britain – since UKIP so loves quoting polls!) where over 50% and some say approaching 90% of the population want an entirely different relationship with the EU.

Do consider the fact that even now the opinion poll support for UKIP varies from 4 or 5% to at best 11% when actual ballot box results reflect at less than 5% and in many constituencies they can not even find a credible candidate!
Changes MUST be made if UKIP is ever to have a meaningful part in representing Britain to Leave-The-EU
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