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Ukip MEP Trevor Colman on Riding The EU Gravy Train

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/01/2014

Ukip MEP Trevor Colman on Riding The EU Gravy Train
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here is a motivation for clever Trevor Ukip’s nonentity MEP in the West Country with his outdated belief in his abilities in the field of advertising with his costly talking heads CD’s that get watched by seemingly almost no one yet are funded by the Tax payers!
Colman’s two claims to fame seem to have been that he was, in the 1960’s, a member of the largely failed Countryman Inquiry into police corruption in The Met and that when he retired from the police that he acted as an advisor on old style policing for the TV series Wycliffe!

I go to Brussels to claim £200,000 in allowances, admits UKIP MEP who has done NOTHING in Parliament in the last year

  • Trevor Colman admits allowances is a ‘factor’ for clocking into Parliament
  • Insists there is no point giving a speech to an all but empty chamber
  • Lib Dems question why UKIP member stood for election in the first place
UKIP MEP Trevor Colman has defended claiming tens of thousands of pounds in allowances while barely speaking in Brussels

UKIP MEP Trevor Colman has defended claiming tens of thousands of pounds in allowances while barely speaking in Brussels

A UKIP MEP has admitted one of the only reasons he turns up in Brussels is to claim £200,000 in allowances.

Trevor Colman has not done anything in the European Parliament in the last year, and has only taken part in half of votes since 2009.

The South West MEP insisted he could not see the point in making speeches in the Parliament, and instead claimed the taxpayers’ money to fund an anti-EU website.

All MEPs receive a salary of £78,000 but must ‘clock in’ to the Parliament building in order to receive various allowances.

However, Mr Colman has only made speeches or asked questions just 19 times, well behind the average of the five other MEPs in the South West.

Asked whether allowances were a factor influencing his decision, Mr Colman: ‘I wouldn’t say getting the allowances is one of the main motivations, I’m trying to be fair about it, it is a factor, of course it is.’

He was confronted about his expenses during an interview on BBC’s Sunday Politics West show.

Mr Colman said: ‘Why make a speech when you know that it is totally ineffective? That you are there talking to a gallery of about six people, I don’t quite see the point of me doing that.

‘It’s not that I’m not doing anything, I am trying to get us out of this mess and that can only be achieved over here.’

Last year a study found that cosseted MEPs now have incomes up to 20 times higher than the people they represent.

While millions of families across Europe have had their incomes squeezed, most MEPs have enjoyed large increases in their salaries – while continuing to vote through ever-higher budgets for the EU.

The study found that MEPs enjoy an average income of £182,826, including allowances for attendance and travel.

 
Mr Colman said there was no point in giving a speech to the European Parliament which was often all but emtpy

Mr Colman said there was no point in giving a speech to the European Parliament which was often all but emtpy

Mr Colman admitted turning up at the European Parliament to ensure he receives his huge allowances, most of which he spends on a website aimed at removing the UK from the European Union.

He added: ‘The European Parliament has no power, it can’t make or change legislation, it has little or no power, we are in fact just a pantomime taking players to make the illusion of giving democracy where none exists.

The BBC found Mr Colman – who is standing down in May – employs five full time staff, who mainly work on the website, another woman who covers Brussels and Strasbourg, and a part time employee.

Graham Watson, a Lib Dem MEP, said: ‘There is a massive amount that goes on in the European parliament and that’s why most of the members are there full-time doing their jobs,

‘I’m sorry if Trevor Colman finds it so boring, but I would have to ask the question why did he stand in the first place.’

However UKIP chairman Steve Crowther defended Mr Colman’s conduct.

‘We have a specific job to do and we are elected to do it, that is to campaign and work for Britain to come out of the European Parliament,’ he said.

FORMER POLICE CHIEF WHO BOASTS OF BRUSSELS EXPENSES GRAVY TRAIN AND IS CONSISTENTLY GROUP AMONG THE WORST MEPS

Mr Colman is no stranger to criticism of his behaviour as an MEP – and has been blasted for wasting taxpayers’ money before.

The UKIP member, who stood unsuccessfully in 2004 but won a seat in 2009, said last year that he goes to Brussels just twice a month, for ‘about three days’.

He told the Journal of European Integration: ‘If I don’t come and put my card in the slot to vote, I don’t get my money to give to the party.’

While in December 2010 an investigation by the Sunday Telegraph ranked him in the bottom half of UK MEPS. It calculated that he cost taxpayers £156,415 per year, attended around 83 per cent of parliamentary sessions, and made just 12 speeches, questions or motions.

The figures would seem to suggest that his activity dropped dramatically after he had spent more than a year as an MEP.

He was also criticised by a 2009 report designed to expose MEPs who voted against making Brussels more transparent. He was given the fourth-worst ranking in this category.

Before being elected, Mr Colman had served in Devon & Cornwall police, rising to the rank of superintendent.

He left the force in 1995, and then spent four years advising the ITV detective series Wycliffe

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Chris Pain Refutes Nigel Farage’s Racism Claims

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/12/2013

Chris Pain Refutes Nigel Farage’s Racism Claims
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Cllr. Chris Pain Refutes Nigel Farage’s Racism Claims made on behalf of his party!!

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Hi,

it has been clear for some time to those who are aware of what is going on in UKIP that the party is bereft of competent leadership and managed by bullying, back stabbing and bullsh*t.

It is sad to realise just how out of touch with common decency the leadership now is and how singularly incompetent they have become as they are too busy in fighting, like ferrets in a sack, to consider their duty to the electorate or the facts at grass roots level!

Clearly UKIP in its present state is unfit for purpose and utterly incapable of their patriotic duty in defence of these United Kingdoms in leading Britain to Leave-The-EU – as proven by their abject failure to achieve anything of value much beyond pranks and self serving schemes for self enrichment over 20 years!

Still UKIP has absolutely zero strategy and little understanding of tactics having failed to devise any concept of an exit and survival strategy with no clear plan for either exit or action thereafter.

UKIP is still peddling the outworn ‘isn’t the EU horrid’ mantras and failing to lay out the benefits and advantages of Britain Leaving-The-EU, having failed to realise the simple marketing fact that it is all but impossible and self defeating to try and sell a negative!

Yet again and again we see the UKIP clique placing proven inadequates with tired old failed ideas like Mark Croucher, Gawain Towler, Annabelle Fuller and their like merely for their ability to lie and reliable support of the inadequate leadership.

Chris Pain’s Letter:

My reply to Nigel Farage on ‘racism’ claim

In my right to reply concerning the accusations made against me by Nigel Farage following Question Time last week in Boston, please find attached my factual response to his allegations.This internal UKIP posting on the forum from Jonathan Arnott, general secretary of UKIP, reads: “the suspension isn’t anything to do with the ‘racism’ issue… The suspension is on two unrelated matters, both considered extremely serious by the party.” Unquote. Obviously Nigel Farage does not know why I have been expelled.

Firstly, the racist posts were proved never to be on my Facebook site. As you are aware this has been confirmed by the police.

Secondly, the two reasons I was suspended and ultimately expelled from the party was for forwarding an email to a UKIP MEP, who was entitled to the information, about the flawed MEP selection process.

The other reason was for recording a perfectly legal telephone conversation with the chief executive officer of UKIP which raised some serious issues about the MEP selection process and Steve Crowther’s (party chairman) integrity within the party.

I put an official complaint to the NEC on September 2 giving the information about Steve Crowther and I resigned from the NEC on September 3 stating I could not rubber stamp a flawed MEP selection process which did not represent the UKIP members. On Friday, September 6, Steve Crowther suspended me.

The five councillors have a written confirmation from the party secretary that they had done nothing wrong and were of good standing within the party. The action against these five raises further issues within UKIP.

Coun Chris Pain

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Documentary Proof of UKIP Corruption

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Documentary Proof of UKIP Corruption
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Documentary Proof of seemingly Criminal UKIP Corruption in perverting any meaningful democratic process in selection of candidates and officers!!

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earlier today, after a brief phonecall I was mailed the following copy of postings related to the corruption of UKIP and the apparent rigging the selection processes and internal elections in UKIP!

I have been unable to perform my usual checks on this material, however I do believe that it is an accurate report of that which it claims to expose and those shown to have been a part of the corruption, such as John Moran, Steve Crowther, Lisa Duffy, Peter Reeve and others have a track record where they have lied, cheated and corrupted UKIP.

I do believe the document I have been sent to be accurate and a sound report.

CROWTHER, Steve 02Steve CrowtherMORAN, John RU4OUT 01-08-12 02John Moran
at The Huntsman Hotel
at a meeting he lied about & denied attending

Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013
From: REDACTED
To:
Subject: Fwd: More on the MEP selection process – the maladministration of Steve Crowther

 

——– Original Message ——–

Subject:

 More on the MEP selection process – the maladministration of Steve Crowther

Date:

 Sun, 01 Dec 2013 15:24:26 +0000

As ever more evidence appears regarding the maladministration taking place under the auspices of Steve Crowther, one has to wonder how he’s able to get away with it.  It can be taken as read that Crowther is a bully, but bullies are inherently cowardly.  Clearly, therefore, at least in my humble opinion, he is not acting in this way without the clear consent of A.N. Other(s).

Nothing shows this more clearly than in the debacle known as the UKIP MEP candidate selection process! Below you will find extracts from a statement made by a member of the NEC, as well as direct quotes from relevant NEC minutes.

A.
PS: The full statement is attached. In large part it deals with the removal of Mike Nattrass as a candidate, but what happened in the West Mids will be recognised in other regions!!!

 

NOTES REGARDING SUBMISSION OF STEVE CROWTHER

 
Mr. Crowther states an “independent panel”  was used.

The panel finally used (and it was not appointed by the NEC when actioned) has at least six people who, in my opinion and personal knowledge of people within UKIP,  I would NOT select for such a panel on the grounds of them having either potential self interest (as employees for example whose salary is dependent on the patronage of the Leadership), and/or,  of being potentially subject to undue influence from the Leadership by being close friends (like John Moran and Mr Crowther);  or very close to the Leader’s organisation for his European election campaign (such as Roger Bird).

I believe the pre-selection part of the process to be flawed,  and fatally so from a democratic point of view for UKIP members.

The pre-selection process over which you have presided which you freely admit was carried out without proper resolutions obtained is, in my opinion, seriously flawed.

I believe the results are so anomalous, and have caused such widespread dissent in the party with those affected,  as to indicate that one of two things has happened, or both:-

1) either that part of the process of selection has been seriously deficient in how it was developed and/or applied;
or
2) there has been maladministration in some form or another applied by one or more persons involved.

I  disassociate myself from it  as being the exact opposite of what was intended.

I believe it allows the possibility of, and certainly allows the accusation of, potential gerrymandering,  and I believe is fatally flawed as a democratic process by not conforming properly in its development to the Party Constitution and Rules, also by potential maladministration and/or misapplication of the rules by the party chairman Mr. Crowther.

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Ref Minutes of NEC 13th May discussion of MEP Selection.

NEC Minutes of 13th May clearly state certain people who are well known in the party, of good repute, and of good standing were to be used for that panel.

There was no dissent of these people in the NEC and an amendment to T.3.2  was proposed and carried.

Those people listed were:-

George Curtis (NEC member);
Sebastian Fairweather (NEC member);
Jeffrey Titford (Ex Party Leader);
Rachel Oxley (Ex-NEC member and head of an Independent school);
Roger Bird (Chairman of the SE selection committee and Nigel Farage’s organiser for the European elections);
Steve Crowther (chairman of the NEC);
Peter Reeve (Party Nominations Officer).

The selection panel actually used however,  was considerably different and was NOT approved by the NEC at that time,   and contained people who would in my opinion, most certainly have caused considerable debate in the NEC as to their suitability.

…… with near 100% certainty one in particular,  who was associated in one previous UKIP EU election in assisting the present Leader,  as manager and director of a Telephone Call Centre for donations, which had a bank account set-up for the Leader’s region without the knowledge of the then Party Treasurer.{Refers to John Moran}

On the 17th Aug Steve Crowther requested a vote by e-mail of all the NEC,  to make a resolution for the acceptance of a selection panel of three including himself, as he had not finished the process. This is after I had questioned the legality of the selection panels vis a vis UKIP constitution and rules,  and is a tacit admission that the selection panels were indeed deficient by not having NEC approval.

The Party Secretary {Jonathan Arnott?} first claimed he had carefully examined all the papers regarding the MEP selection process,  and said the whole of the selection process was legally sound in all respects {assuming this is Arnott speaking, his ability to make a ‘legal judgement’ is somewhat limited}.

He then later changed this opinion to an acceptance of what he called a “technicality” whereby the selection panel was deemed to be ultra vires because it had not been approved by the NEC.

On the 18th August,   Steve Crowther then called for a retrospective vote of the NEC by e-mail to regularise the deficiency.

He wanted a rapid resolution within 24 hours.

The Party Secretary claimed this was legally acceptable {see above},  and claimed it would have made no difference to the acceptance of these people if it had been put to the NEC properly earlier.

This is an incredible statement.
As a long-standing NEC member I dispute this vociferously.

The selection panel contains a significant proportion of people who were NOT on the original list put to the NEC on the 13th May and would certainly have caused considerable debate and some dissent in the NEC with some of the newly introduced people.

It was discussed briefly at NEC that party employees should not be a part of the selection process because they might be considered to have a interest in that their salary is dependent upon the patronage of the party leadership; but that was never resolved one way or another with a vote.

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Further to Ref:  Paragraph 10

Para 13 states:-

“In this iteration of elections UKIP has worked especially hard to ensure that the process for selection of candidates has been as fair and transparent as possible”.

This is an incredible statement.

As an NEC member I do not feel this process has been transparent regarding the selection process at all.

In fact it is completely opaque to me as an NEC member representing the UKIP membership.

I cannot possibly say to the UKIP members “I know the process was undertaken with complete transparency and think it to be fair and equitable”.

I do not think that at all.

A sub-committee was formed but its required  functions were never satisfactorily carried out, nor its deliberations presented properly to the NEC for ratification.

This resolution for the formation of a sub-committee is contained in the following:

Document:
MEP Candidate Selection Process 2013  Revised 29.04.13
provided by Steve Crowther says:-
The sub-committee will establish a Selection Panel comprising five members selected for their experience, judgement and availability who will oversee and manage the process.

This sub-committee and its formation is mentioned in document to the NEC from Steve Crowther:
marked:

NEC 7 January 2013   MEP SELECTION

which says:-
An NEC sub-committee was set-up in October, comprising members of the NEC who are not intending to stand for MEP selection.

NEC sub-committee:-
Steve Crowther,
George Curtis,
Douglas Denny,
Toby Micklethwait,
Alan Bown,
Lisa Duffy (a),
Peter Reeve (a),
Michael Greaves (a)
(a=Advisory)

That sub-committee only sat for two sessions only  that I remember, (possibly three),  but no minutes were taken, though they should have been,  (which is why I cannot remember if two or three meetings occurred),  and not even the sub-committee’s outline decisions were given as written presentation to the NEC;  and no specific criteria for selection/assessment were ever discussed by that committee or the NEC.

As a committee it might as well have not existed.

Correct due process of the sub-committee, required by the NEC in a resolution (as above) was NOT carried out.
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Another example of maladministration of the process used for MEP selection by Mr. Crowther, is that at the NEC discussion on the process, it was agreed that no member of UKIP of less than one year’s good standing would be eligible to stand as a candidate, ……

I am given to understand this NEC requirement in the selection rules of at least one year’s membership in good-standing for eligibility appears to have been ignored completely.
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I have tried to ameliorate the problems by suggesting modifications to the process which could be easily implemented by resolution(s) of the NEC (obtained within the 24-hour format that Mr Crowther has already done in this case to retrospectively obtain correct due process),   and for an extraordinary meeting of the NEC to be called rapidly (within the week) when I first raised my concerns with the party chairman; but all these protestations have been turned down by the Party chairman and NEC chairman Mr. Crowther.

Note: The author of the above, Doug Denny, was removed from the NEC for submitting these statements to the Party. 

If you truly value democracy you must demand that Crowther is dismissed forthwith and that the whole selection process be revisited.

To do otherwise is akin to approving the aforesaid maladministration of Steve Crowther.

Make of this document what you will, but I for one find it to be further conclusive and irrefutable evidence of the corruption of any sort of acceptable democratic due process.That it is these same people who seek positions of Governance and the style of their corruption could well metastasise like a cancer to being a method of Governance in these United Kingdoms if they are allowed to continue their obscene self serving and self enriching behaviour shows them clearly to be unfit for purpose, unfit for public office and arguably to be criminally corrupt.

The following is a more comprehensive exposee of the abuse of authority and criminal style behaviour of UKIP leadership clique and its appointed claque:

NOTES REGARDING SUBMISSION OF STEVE CROWTHER

 

Ref Claim 3BM30448

Exhibit SJC1

 

Statement.

DENNY, Douglas 01

Douglas Denny.

NEC member.

 

Ref para 10. Mr. Crowther states an “independent panel” was used.

As the longest serving continuous elected member of the NEC I dispute this vociferously.

The panel could not be said to be “independent” in my opinon. There were people who could be said to have self-interest, or the Leader’s interests on the panel used.

 

The panel finally used (and it was not appointed by the NEC when actioned) has at least six people who, in my opinion and personal knowledge of people within UKIP, I would NOT select for such a panel on the grounds of them having

either potential self interest (as employees for example whose salary is dependent on the patronage of the Leadership),

 

and/or, of being potentially subject to undue influence from the Leadership by being close friends (like John Moran and Mr Crowther); or very close to the Leader’s organisation for his European election campaign (such as Roger Bird).

It is well known within the party, that the Leader Mr. Nigel Farage harbours grudges, and does not wish Mr. Nattrass to

be on the listing for MEP election because of the latter’s independent frame of mind and previous clashes of personality

with him over UKIP’s political directions.

Mr. Nattrass, however, is one of the longest serving members of UKIP with the greatest contribution to the party next to

the Leader Nigel Farage. His record of loyalty to the party is exemplary, he has spend a large amount of his time in his

life promoting and assisting the party; put literally many thousands of pounds of his own money into the party, and been

in most of the top positions serving the party eg: Deputy Party Leader; Party Chairman and Chairman of the NEC (the

position now held by Mr. Crowther).

That he has not been selected for the shortlist because, as Mr Crowther says: ” he simply came below the list of sixty

selected (because he is not good enough being implied)” is patently ridiculous in the extreme.

I wrote to Mr. Crowther:

I believe the pre-selection part of the process to be flawed, and fatally so from a democratic point of view for UKIP

members.

The pre-selection process over which you have presided which you freely admit was carried out without proper

resolutions obtained is, in my opinon, seriously flawed.

I believe the results are so anomalous, and have caused such widespread dissent in the party with those affected, as to

indicate that one of two things has happened, or both:-

1) either that part of the process of selection has been seriously deficient in how it was developed and/or applied; or

2) there has been maladministration in some form or another applied by one or more persons involved.

Had there been a selection of candidates by the previous process which was Regional selection by the membership;

almost certainly in my opinion, Mr. Nattrass would have come to the top of the listing for that region. To suggest he is

not good enough compared to some of those on the list accepted now is wrongful, highly anomalous and indicates there

is a severe breakdown somwhere in the process used. It is literally incredible.

This present process I helped to develop, but it has apparently become born as an abortion of that intended, which was to

allow the UKIP members a fair and clearly tranparent election of the best potential canidates to become UKIP MEPs. I

disassociate myself from it as being the exact opposite of what was intended.

I believe it allows the possibility of, and certainly allows the accusation of, potential gerrymandering, and I believe is

fatally flawed as a democratic process by not conforming properly in its development to the Party Constitution and

Rules, also by potential maladministration and/or misapplication of the rules by the party chairman Mr. Crowther.

——————————–

Ref Minutes of NEC 13th May discussion of MEP Selection.

NEC Minutes of 13th May clearly state certain people who are well know in the party, of good repute, and of good

standing were to be used for that panel.

There was no dissent of these people in the NEC and an amendment to T.3.2 was proposed and carried.

Those people listed were:-

George Curtis (NEC member);

Sebastian Fairweather (NEC member);

Jeffrey Titford (Ex Party Leader);

Rachel Oxley (Ex-NEC member and head of an Independent school);

Roger Bird (Chairman of the SE selection committee and Nigel Farage’s organiser for the European elections);

Steve Crowther (chairman of the NEC);

Peter Reeve (Party Nominations Officer).

The selection panel actually used however, was considerably different and was NOT approved by the NEC at that time,

and contained people who would in my opinon, most certainly have caused considerable debate in the NEC as to their

suitability.

Had those names been put to the NEC prior to the retrospective call for their appointment, and before they were used, I

would say some would most certainly have caused dissent, and with near 100% certainty one in particular, who was

associated in one previous UKIP EU election in assisting the present Leader, as manager and director of a Telephone

Call Centre for donations, which had a bank account set-up for the Leader’s region without the knowledge of the then

Party Treasurer.

On the 17th Aug Steve Crowther requested a vote by e-mail of all the NEC, to make a resolution for the acceptance of a

selection panel of three including himself, as he had not finished the process. This is after I had questioned the legality of

the selection panels vis a vis UKIP constituion and rules, and is a tacit admission that the selection panels were indeed

deficient by not having NEC approval.

The Party Secretary first claimed he had carefully examined all the papers regarding the MEP selection process, and

said the whole of the selection process was legally sound in all respects. He then later changed this opinon to an

acceptance of what he called a “technicality” whereby the selection panel was deemed to be ultra vires because it had not

been approved by the NEC.

On the 18th August, Steve Crowther then called for a retrospective vote of the NEC by e-mail to regularise the

deficiency. He wanted a rapid resolution within 24 hours. The Party Secretary claimed this was legally acceptable,

and claimed it would have made no difference to the acceptance of these people if it had been put to the NEC properly

earlier.

This is an incredible statement. As a long-standing NEC member I dispute this vociferously.

The selection panel contains a significant proportion of people who were NOT on the original list put to the NEC on the

13th May and would certainly have caused considerable debate and some dissent in the NEC with some of the newly

introduced people.

The ‘new’ listing of people was:-

Steve Crowther

Chairman of the Party and NEC. Designated chairman of the Selection Panel.

Peter Reeve

National Nominating Officer, and party employee.

George Curtis

NEC member of long standing,

Sebastian Fairweather

NEC member

Jeffrey Titford

Former MEP, former Party Leader, current Party President.

John Harvey

Former NEC member

Rachel Oxley

DID NOT PARTICIPATE. Former NEC member and Party Vice-Chairman.

Steph McWilliam

Chairman of Cornwall

Harry Aldridge

Former Chairman of Young Independence

John Moran

Long-term activist and donor. Founder director of the Ashford call centre.

Chris Cassidy

Treasurer of Young Independence.

Recently appointed National Database Manager at Lexdrum House. Party employee.

Derek Clark

Retiring MEP, long-term former NEC member.

Will Gilpin (stand in)

Party Chief Executive. Used once as a stand-in when John Moran was unable to attend a London meeting. Party

employee.

Roger Bird

Surrey County Chairman. SE Regional commmittee and likely organiser of Nigel Farage’s European election campaign.

Of these; Steve Crowther; Wil Gilpin; Chris Cassidy; Peter Reeve are party employees. It was discussed briefly at

NEC that party employees should not be a part of the selection process because they might be considered to have a

interest in that their salary is dependent upon the patronage of the party leadership; but that was never resolved one way

or another with a vote.

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Further to Ref: Paragraph 10

Para 13 states:-

“In this iteration of elections UKIP has worked especially hard to ensire that the process for selection of candidates has

been as fair and transparent as possible”.

This is an incredible statement.

As an NEC member I do not feel this process has been transparent regarding the selection process at all. In fact it is

completely opaque to me as an NEC member representing the UKIP membership. I cannot possibly say to the UKIP

members “I know the process was undertaken with complete transparency and think it to be fair and equitable”. I do not

think that at all.

All that was achieved by NEC resolutions was an agreement for outline process stategy, such as the change from

Regional to a National ballot of members; of a selection process where all candidates would be ranked by a points

system; and to use an outside agency for “psychometric testing” as part of and only as an additional assistance to the

points system testing/assessment.

The most important and crucial part of the whole process however, i.e. the deciding of the actual criteria for

discrimination of the MEP candidates in the selection process was to be delegated to a sub-committee of which I was a

member; of non-interested persons i.e. not taking part in the MEP election.

In fact, to ensure ‘transparency’ and equitability, the NEC decided that all aspects of the MEP selection process was to

be decided by a delegated sub-committee specifically for the purpose, and this was decided by the NEC months before.

A sub-committee was formed but its required functions were never satisfactorily carried out, nor its deliberations

presented properly to the NEC for ratification.

This resolution for the formation of a sub-committee is contained in the following:

Document: MEP Candidate Selection Process 2013 Revised 29.04.13

provided by Steve Crowther says:-

The sub-committee will establish a Selection Panel comprising five members selected for their experience, judgement

and availability who will oversee and manage the process.

This sub-committee and its formation is mentioned in document to the NEC from Steve Crowther: marked:

NEC 7 January 2013 MEP SELECTION

which says:-

An NEC sub-committee was set-up in October, comprising members of the NEC who are not intending to stand for MEP

selection.

NEC sub-committee:-

Steve Crowther, George Curtis, Douglas Denny, Toby Micklethwait, Alan Bown, Lisa Duffy (a), Peter Reeve (a),

Michael Greaves (a)

(a=Advisory)

That sub-committee only sat for two sessions only that I remember, (possibly three), but no minutes were taken, though

they should have been, (which is why I cannot remember if two or three meetings occured), and not even the subcommittee’s

outline decisions were given as written presentation to the NEC; and no specific criteria for

selection/assessment were ever discussed by that committee or the NEC. As a committee it might as well have not

existed. Correct due process of the sub-committee, required by the NEC in a resolution (as above) was NOT carried out.

To this day I have no idea what criteria were decided upon for discrimination between candidates – that ended up entirely

under the jurisdiction of one person and of his devising – that is Steve Crowther chairman of the NEC. Mr. Crowther

never never put any of those crucial criteria forward for acceptance or discussion by the sub-committee (as should have

been done) – nor even to the the full NEC.

He took it upon himself to go ahead regardless.

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Another example of maladministratoin of the process used for MEP selection by Mr. Crowther, is that at the NEC

discussion on teh process, it was agreed that no member of UKIP of less than one year’s good standing would be eligible

to stand as a candidate, but that an appeal panel would be formed to consider special cases on appeal if, for instance, a

high profile candidate appeared.

I am given to understand this NEC requirement in teh selection rules of at least one year’s membership in good-standing

for eligibility appears to have been ignored completely. There are some on the short list with less than one year’s

membership I am told, whereas Mr. Nattrass has been an active member from shortly after the inception of the party.

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It is my honest belief that due process has not been carried out properly by the Party under the remit of the Party

Chairman to the detriment of a number of potential candidates including Mr. M. Nattrass. That Mr. Nattrass has a just

case for complaint; and that the process as applied was deficient in transparency and fairness to all.

I have tried to ameliorate the problems by suggesting modifications to the process which could be easily implemented by

resolution(s) of the NEC (obtained within the 24-hour format that Mr Crowther has already done in this case to

retrospectively obtain correct due process), and for an extraordinary meeting of the NEC to be called rapidly (within

the week) when I first raised my concerns with the party chairman; but all these protestations have been turned down by

the Party chairman and NEC chairman Mr. Crowther.

Douglas Denny.


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David Gale’s resignation Letter & Critique

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Gale resigns from UKIP

David Gale and Nigel Farage

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thursday 28th November 2013 – OPEN LETTER TO NIGEL FARAGE

In an open letter to UKIP leader Nigel Farage, David Gale, one of UKIP’s top performing Police & Crime Commissioner candidates, has today announced his resignation from the party.

In a damning indictment of its leadership, Gale accuses UKIP of betraying its supporters in its shift to the right. Gale said, “In many areas of the country, UKIP has been taking more votes from Labour than from the Conservatives, with the UKIP membership in the north focused on a common sense view of policy that is not shared by an ever-increasing number of  ex-Tory UKIP candidates. What we’re seeing is yet another crony elite riding a wave of public expectation for something different. It’s a deception and it’s a betrayal.”

Click to see David Gale's letter to Nigel Farage

Going on to list issues with the party’s MEP candidate selection process, as well as its failure to alert members to a middle-aged, convicted paedophile actively engaged with the party’s younger membership, Gale questions the leadership’s professional competence in its running of the party, “Whilst I doubt that it was your intention to model your public persona on Lord Percy, UKIP is beginning to resemble an episode of Blackadder, with candidates presenting as an association of Elizabethan dandies.”

Gale’s announcement comes after a sitting MEP and a number of Lincolnshire councillors were forced out of the party, all citing procedural irregularities by the

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leadership. Reports suggest that a large proportion of the UKIP Worcester branch in the West Midlands has resigned en masse, again citing the party’s leadership as being out of touch with its membership.

Gale said, ” I remain deeply respectful of the many genuine grass roots members who aspire to something better for our country but I feel that UKIP’s leadership is deceiving them. I wish the membership all the best.”

-ENDS-

 

 

The resignation letter in full:

N Farage
UKIP – Party Leader
Newton Abbot
Devon
TQ12 9BG
28th. November 2013
Dear Nigel,

 

You will be aware that, for some time, I have been flagging up matters of concern about the management and political direction of UKIP. On many of the issues that I’ve raised,
you have been copied in to my communications and in some cases emails have been marked for your personal attention. Let me start by reiterating my areas of concern:
1. There is a lack of transparency over matters relating to the party’s National Executive
Committee (NEC). Party rules are routinely flouted by the leadership. When held to account, party chairman Steve Crowther almost gleefully points at a revised party constitution that allows the NEC to retrospectively approve breaches of the rules by the leadership.
There are numerous examples of this but the three at the forefront of my mind are:
a) the expulsion of Robert Hamling
b) the expulsion of Chris Pain
c) the MEP selection process
In the matter of the MEP selection process, as a participant, I raised my concerns direct to Steve Crowther on the lack of transparency within the process. In fact, I refused to pay the £500 application fee, since it had become apparent that the fee represented a conspiracy by the partyto defraud applicants who were never going to be allowed on
to the candidate list.
Evidence gathered since the selection process has confirmed my deepest fears that the
process was rigged in such a way as to give you plausible deniability of personal involvement.
It would have been easier to swallow had you stated openly those candidates whom
you wished to be on the list.
In the cases listed above, there is clear evidence of significant rule breaches by the party’s leadership. In all of those cases, allegations of wrong-doing by the leadership have not been adequately pursued.
Interestingly, my own local branch chairman has refused in writing to allow the subject to be discussed.
2. UKIP has shifted noticeably to the right. However attractive the proposition of having a handful of converted Tory MPs, allowing UKIP to become a refuge for the Tories in exile is alienating UKIP voters, particularly north of the Watford Gap. In my own region, the lurch to the right leaves Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Lincolnshire and Rutland without any MEP candidate representation within UKIP’s candidate list. The situation in the East Midlands reflects the general trend across the country in that UKIP MEP candidates do not represent the politics of the vast majority of UKIP members and voters in the region.
Aligned to that shift to the right has been an evidenced intent to play to the populist gallery whilst concealing the real agenda.
Increasingly, UKIP public appearances are becoming a sound bite driven public relations exercise, lacking in both substance and depth.
At best, there is a mismatch between the leadership and much of the voting public. At worst, it’s a cynical manipulation of populist opinion to meet the agenda of yet another
crony elite.
Whilst I doubt that it was your intention to model your public persona on Lord Percy, UKIP is beginning to resemble an episode of Blackadder, with candidates presenting as an
association of Elizabethan dandies.
Throw in a pomander and a trailing kerchief and the picture will be complete.
3. It is becoming increasingly clear that there is a core faction associated with the party that is being used as a ‘Black Ops’ dirty tricks team against targets that include party members.
I believe that your own deep insecurity and paranoia have played a significant part in the
party’s Night of the Long Knives.
Much of the recent press coverage of alleged hacked social  media sites has been deliberately misleading. There is increasing evidence that points to UKIP members close to the party’s headquarters being involved in the creation of cloned Facebook pages which have featured damaging fake posts falsely attributed to UKIP members. Screen grabs of these posts have been fed to the press, third hand, in an attempt to smear the targeted individuals and as a precursor to removing them from the party.
These are potentially criminal acts.
The involved young party activists claim a close association with the party Chairman.
Disturbingly, documentary evidence demonstrates that the Chief Executive Officer, Will Gilpin, was removed from post by the Chairman a matter of days after committing in writing to party members to investigate these allegations.
The evidence that I and others have collated has now been passed to the police who tell me that a Special Branch investigation is underway.
4. For nearly two years, I have been raising the issue of the lack of scrutiny and governance within the party’s management. The common error is to look at a relatively small head office and staff and assume that the party is a small organisation.
That is not the case.
It is clear that UKIP’s professional officers are devoid of the skills and experience required to run a complex, networked national organisation, including the delivery of
scrutiny and governance over both operational and political policies and strategy.
One of the starkest examples of this lack of governance has been the tolerance of the
party’s continued association with a convicted paedophile who, whilst no longer being a member, has continued to attend party functions and provide strategic UKIP documentation from his personal website.
Party members with children, who have been asked for lifts to UKIP events by the paedophile, have been left unaware of the background of an individual who is on the sex offenders register for life.
When warned about this individual, Chairman Steve Crowther has quite extraordinarily
contrived means to remove the reporting individuals from the party.
Through its lack of risk mitigating processes and actions, the party has knowingly exposed its members to undue risk.
My own efforts to raise the alarm have been ignored by the leadership, it being left to me to contact branches to alert them to the potential risks to members and to have photographs of the paedophile campaigning for UKIP removed from branch websites.
More recently, I have gathered evidence that I understand has previously been in Steve
Crowther’s possession that demonstrates the paedophile grooming a vulnerable young
UKIP member on Twitter, in violation of his probationary licence, yet Crowther has encouraged the individual to maintain his party activism.
If this is UKIP’s response, how many more paedophiles remain within the membership?
On the first couple of points, I am mindful that my written offers to provide you with professional management skills have been ignored. The candidate list’s swing to the right is a betrayal of the membership and our voters.
On the third item, conclusions around alleged criminality within the party must await the outcome of ongoing police investigations.
On the fourth item, the issue of the party leadership’s response to the activities of a convicted paedophile within its midst is not something that I can overlook. My work as Interim Chief Executive for Kids for Cash UK leaves me no room for association with a party that cannot deliver the requisite level of organisational rigour and competence required to protect its brand and its members.
I am left with no alternative but to resign my membership of UKIP forthwith. I remain
deeply respectful of the many genuine grass roots members who aspire to something better for our country but I feel that UKIP’s leadership is deceiving them. The focus is
clearly on leveraging the goodwill of the membership and the British people in pursuit of
a narrowly focussed personal agenda.
I wish the membership all the best.
Yours sincerely

 David Gale

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION PLEASE CONTACT:

David Gale | Interim Chief Executive | Kids for Cash UK | w: http://www.KidsForCashUK.org

Kids for Cash UK – protecting vulnerable children by exposing paedophiles and investigating criminal corruption in the family justice and social care systems

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We are not alone in realising Farage’s UKIP is corrupted

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We are not alone in realising Farage’s UKIP is corrupted
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    From winning their first ever 16 seats on Lincolnshire County Council in May, UKIP in Lincolnshire had to deal with racism allegations and suspensions, leading up to the party losing its official opposition status after six councillors split from the party in September. How did it get to this point? May 3, 2013: UKIP win their first 16 seats for councillors on Lincolnshire County Council in the local elections, as Conservatives lost overall control after winning just 36 seats and Labour won 12 seats. The turnout was just 29% county-wide. In Lincoln the turnout was even lower at 26%.

    May 9, 2013: Conservative County Council leader Martin Hill agrees on a coalition to maintain control with Liberal Democrats Reg Shore, John Marriot and Pat O’Connor, and Independents Chris Brewis, Bill Aron and Angela Newton.

    May 10, 2013: Chris Pain, UKIP’s East Midlands regional chairman and Wainfleet and Burgh councillor, is voted by fellow party members as the leader of UKIP on Lincolnshire County Council. He nominates Robin Hunter-Clarke and Victoria Ayling as his deputy leaders. UKIP become the second largest group on the council, the majority opposition.
    UKIP Councillor Chris Pain. Photo: Steve Smailes for The LincolniteUKIP Councillor Chris Pain. Photo: Steve Smailes for The Lincolnite

    May 11, 2013: Chris Pain confidently says he will stand for MP at the next general election for Boston and Skegness against Conservative MP Mark Simmonds, squashing rumours that UKIP leader Nigel Farage will stand there given the party’s success in the area.

    May 17, 2013: All 16 UKIP councillors refuse to sign an anti-racism declaration at the County Council annual meeting. The document is meant to ensure all Lincolnshire residents are treated equality and have access to the same services. The motion is passed by 60 other councillors.

    May 23, 2013: Lincolnshire Police begin investigating claims that racist comments were posted on the Facebook pages of UKIP Lincolnshire leader Chris Pain and two other UKIP councillors, Alan Jesson and Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright. All three strongly denied making the comments and Chris Pain said his account had been hacked. The issue was brought to police attention by someone from the County Council.

    June 4, 2013: Chris Pain is forced to step down from his East Midlands regional chairman role over the alleged racist comments posted on Facebook. UKIP’s National Executive Committee (NEC) said it was holding its judgement on until police complete their investigation. Chris Pain remains leader of the UKIP group on the County Council.

    June 12, 2013: Chris Pain insists sanctions imposed on him by UKIP are just a formality while he clears his name and says he submitted an application to stand as an MEP representing the party in next year’s European election.

    July 31, 2013: Chris Pain confirms his deputies Victoria Ayling and Robin Hunter-Clarke have been stripped of their roles in the party on the County Council. Councillor Ayling says “There are question marks over the process taken with this,” and that UKIP are investigating the matter. Tattershall Castle Councillor Colin Mair becomes the new deputy.
    UKIP Councillor Tiggs Keywood-WainwrightUKIP Councillor Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright

    September 5, 2013: Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright gains the Fenside seat for UKIP on Boston Borough Council with 162 votes. The by-election was called after English Democrats Councillor Eliott Fountain was ousted for not attending any council meetings for over six months.

    http://thelincolnite.co.uk/2013/09/t…olnshire-ukip/

    The bit in bold is where the trouble starts. I presume it is because the fascists that are the real power behind this country took a disliking to the UKIP taking a disliking to their “anti-racism” offensive (May 17). They tried to set Chris Pain up (May 23), but we can deduce that he managed to clear his name due to the allegations failing to stick. This must have been an embarrassment for the fascists so they presumably called on their man within the UKIP to deal with it. That man was Steve Crowther. The reason for the trouble in the first place was because the UKIP went against the grain.

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    This is also worth bearing in mind:

    Anna-Marie Crampton · Top Commenter
    I was one of those that UKIP clearly “didn’t like” and “didn’t fit the mold” when i ran as a candidate in the CC elections in East Sussex last May… UKIP management’s cronies hacked in to my Facebook account (allegedly), created a ghost or clone account using my name, photograph and my email to access my main account… wrote a whole load of anti semitic rubbish in my name which no thanks to their useless press department, resulted in a nationwide indeed, world wide negative press campaign against me which has carried on over many months. The last publication that i am aware of, with negative comments related to myself was just a month ago in The Sunday Times! They deliberately tried to wreck my reputation and standing in the community and possibly make me a target of extremists who assumed (wrongly) that i am anti semitic and a crazed conspiracy theorist… they then, suspended me. It was a vicious, nasty, reckless and dangerous attempt to discredit me. It was a difficult time but, i weathered it and held my head high. I still ran in the CC Elections and indeed my colleague and i did incredibly well. Why? Because the local community and indeed UKIP branch members didn’t for one minute believe the negative publicity cooked up by these vicious but incredibly ambitious thugs within UKIP… Shameful. I have since resigned from UKIP and am convinced that UKIPs upper management were behind this witch hunt. There is no way that UKIP are committed to free speech or democracy. I believe they are just another right wing controlled opposition party who are supporting and abetting the establishment’s agenda. Some of grassroots remain in denial but, when the truth comes out and it will, they are in for an unpleasant awakening when they realise they have all been well and truly used.. and conned. There is no loyalty within UKIP, no respect and no thanks for hard work or loyal support by its members, candidates and councillors… in fact, from what i have witnessed first hand, grassroots are lucky to receive so much as the crumbs from management’s table.

    http://thelincolnite.co.uk/2013/09/t…olnshire-ukip/

    That’s not too “cool” either!

    It seems to me that the party is being hacked. We know that the fascists play dirty if they can’t win legitimately, and they must have seen that Chris Pain could have ended up as the UKIP MP for Lincolnshire. The fascists seem to use Facebook as their method of choice in their sting operations. They must have some sort of control in this. At a guess I would say it looks like some rogue elements within the British intelligence agency, which are obviously linked to the higher echelons of the British government. You see in a way this has come about by the UKIP being a victim of its success. It now represents a credible threat to the establishment. Unless the UKIP take this seriously they will end up like the BNP and become extinguished. You UKIPPers have the big boys on to you now. Good luck, as I think you will need it.

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    REDACTED as being gratuitously damaging to UKIP, without being constructive or contributory by one of the regular anonimised trolls on the site whose contributions are mostly sneering efforts to demean UKIP and undermine any efforts to accentuate its problems with the aim of cleaning-up the Farage controlled party to make it in any way fit for purpose and electable to principled people of integrity as the flagship of EUroScepticism.

    In my opinion.
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    REDACTED as being gratuitously damaging to UKIP, without being constructive or contributory by one of the regular anonimised trolls on the site whose contributions are mostly sneering efforts to demean UKIP and undermine any efforts to accentuate its problems with the aim of cleaning-up the Farage controlled party to make it in any way fit for purpose and electable to principled people of integrity as the flagship of EUroScepticism.

    In my opinion.
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    REDACTED as being gratuitously damaging to UKIP, without being constructive or contributory by one of the regular anonimised trolls on the site whose contributions are mostly sneering efforts to demean UKIP and undermine any efforts to accentuate its problems with the aim of cleaning-up the Farage controlled party to make it in any way fit for purpose and electable to principled people of integrity as the flagship of EUroScepticism.

    In my opinion.
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    The destruction of Ukip from within is following a similar pattern to the destruction of the BNP from within. Even the personal smears are similar – faked Nazi salutes and anti-Semitic comments. This has a far reaching effect beyond just that on members and supporters as it discredits nationalists and patriots to the wider public and strengthens the state in their battle against the British people.

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    Here’s a bit more news from up that way.

    THE UK Independence Party is in meltdown in Worcestershire – with an entire group of activists sensationally quitting to form a breakaway group. West Midlands MEP Mike Nattras and Carl Humphries, UKIP’s best known organiser in Worcester, have teamed up to launch a new political party.

    Mr Humphries is a former Worcester city councillor and UKIP election candidate who has been working behind the scenes for years recruiting new party members.

    Mr Nattras, who quit UKIP last month after being deselected from next year’s European elections following rows with leader Nigel Farage, has launched ‘An Independence Party’.

    To add to the drama, two other UKIP activists resigned yesterday to join the new party – saying they were fed up with being “dictated to”.

    http://www.droitwichadvertiser.co.uk…y_is_launched/

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Steve Crowther Should ‘Count the Paperclips’, as for Bloom!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 23/10/2013

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Steve Crowther Should ‘Count the Paperclips’, as for Bloom! 

In the political context, UKIP often refer to the issue of the EU as ‘The elephant in the room’.

Now, in the context of UKIP, its constant internal strife, and litany of incompetence, an MEP has raised the matter of another elephant in the room. Disgraced (at least for the moment) Godfrey Bloom has turned his fire on Party Secretary Steve Crowther.

The independent MEP, who is still a UKIP member, and who contrary to what the press were told here in the UK is still a member of the far-right EFD group in the European Parliament, said he felt there was “no future for me” in Ukip after the party chairman, Steve Crowther, publicly criticised him for advocating “radical” policies.

“Clearly there’s no future for me in the party when the chairman, an ex-LibDem who believes he should have an interest in policy and not count the paperclips which is what he was employed to do, now feels he is entitled to criticise me when I talk about radical or libertarian policies, it’s something I simply don’t tolerate.”

Crowther has repeatedly demonstrated his total lack of political acumen, and an absence of any ability in the field of policy. Some might argue that this makes him perfect for the job, as he will fit in alongside so many others posessing similar ineptitude.

Described by one MEP recently as a “nauseating little shit”, Crowther has one quality that ensures that he has at least a temporary future in UKIP – a brown nose.

Read the original here.

Whilst checking the full volumes of Hart’s full listing of British military personel, which I own, I was unable to find any record of Godfrey Bloom’s claimed Queen’s Commission – I incline therefore to personally endorse the facts led on Sir Michael Bibby’s blog!

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UKIP’s Determination to Self Destruct

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/09/2013

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Hi,this story or parts of it is replicated not only through UKIP’s history as its leadership clique and its claque fight like ferrets in a sack, but also it is replicated across Britain – ensuring UKIP is seen to be unfit for purpose and may account for the catastrophic and consistent failure of the party in domestic elections.

Timeline: The rise and troubles of Lincolnshire UKIP

From winning their first ever 16 seats on Lincolnshire County Council in May, UKIP in Lincolnshire had to deal with racism allegations and suspensions, leading up to the party losing its official opposition status after six councillors split from the party in September. How did it get to this point?

May 3, 2013: UKIP win their first 16 seats for councillors on Lincolnshire County Council in the local elections, as Conservatives lost overall control after winning just 36 seats and Labour won 12 seats. The turnout was just 29% county-wide. In Lincoln the turnout was even lower at 26%.

May 9, 2013: Conservative County Council leader Martin Hill agrees on a coalition to maintain control with Liberal Democrats Reg Shore, John Marriot and Pat O’Connor, and Independents Chris Brewis, Bill Aron and Angela Newton.

May 10, 2013: Chris Pain, UKIP’s East Midlands regional chairman and Wainfleet and Burgh councillor, is voted by fellow party members as the leader of UKIP on Lincolnshire County Council. He nominates Robin Hunter-Clarke and Victoria Ayling as his deputy leaders. UKIP become the second largest group on the council, the majority opposition.

UKIP Councillor Chris Pain. Photo: Steve Smailes for The Lincolnite
UKIP Councillor Chris Pain. Photo: Steve Smailes for The Lincolnite

May 11, 2013: Chris Pain confidently says he will stand for MP at the next general election for Boston and Skegness against Conservative MP Mark Simmonds, squashing rumours that UKIP leader Nigel Farage will stand there given the party’s success in the area.

May 17, 2013: All 16 UKIP councillors refuse to sign an anti-racism declaration at the County Council annual meeting. The document is meant to ensure all Lincolnshire residents are treated equality and have access to the same services. The motion is passed by 60 other councillors.

May 23, 2013: Lincolnshire Police begin investigating claims that racist comments were posted on the Facebook pages of UKIP Lincolnshire leader Chris Pain and two other UKIP councillors, Alan Jesson and Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright. All three strongly denied making the comments and Chris Pain said his account had been hacked. The issue was brought to police attention by someone from the County Council.

June 4, 2013: Chris Pain is forced to step down from his East Midlands regional chairman role over the alleged racist comments posted on Facebook. UKIP’s National Executive Committee (NEC) said it was holding its judgement on until police complete their investigation. Chris Pain remains leader of the UKIP group on the County Council.

June 12, 2013: Chris Pain insists sanctions imposed on him by UKIP are just a formality while he clears his name and says he submitted an application to stand as an MEP representing the party in next year’s European election.

July 31, 2013: Chris Pain confirms his deputies Victoria Ayling and Robin Hunter-Clarke have been stripped of their roles in the party on the County Council. Councillor Ayling says “There are question marks over the process taken with this,” and that UKIP are investigating the matter. Tattershall Castle Councillor Colin Mair becomes the new deputy.

UKIP Councillor Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright
UKIP Councillor Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright

September 5, 2013: Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright gains the Fenside seat for UKIP on Boston Borough Council with 162 votes. The by-election was called after English Democrats Councillor Eliott Fountain was ousted for not attending any council meetings for over six months.

September 6, 2013: Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright, and Bob McAuley, elected at a by-election in May, form a UKIP group on Boston Borough Council. Former Independent McAuley stood as a UKIP candidate in a by-election in the Staniland South ward following the death of Conservative councillor Paul Mould. He is leader of the new UKIP group with Keywood-Wainwright as deputy leader. These are the first two UKIP seats on Boston Borough Council.

September 9, 2013: Lincolnshire Police drop their investigation into the alleged racist comments from Chris Pain and two other UKIP Lincolnshire councillors. Police say there is a possibility the councillors’ Facebook accounts were hacked, but there was not enough evidence to trace whoever posted the comments. “Fictional police and CSI shows often depict investigations where information in cyberspace can be traced instantly, but the reality is very different,” the force says.

September 10, 2013: Chris Pain is suspended as UKIP leader on the County Council under the emergency powers of the chairman of UKIP, after he wrote a complaint against UKIP national chairman Steve Crowther, which might be subject of legal action. A disciplinary committee will be sitting within the next 10 days for Chris Pain. Deputy Colin Mair is appointed as acting UKIP leader in Lincolnshire.

September 11, 2013: A majority of Lincolnshire UKIP councillors sign a letter of no confidence to County Council chief executive Tony McArdle. With majority written support from his group, Colin Mair takes over as UKIP leader on the council on a temporary basis until a formal election is held. Pain remains a councillor for Wainfleet and Burgh.

September 12, 2013: Chris Pain forms a breakaway group from UKIP, called UKIP Lincolnshire, along with councillor Alan Jesson.

September 13, 2013: Councillors Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright, Richard Fairman, Bob McAuley and John Beaver also join the breakaway UKIP Lincolnshire group, which has in total six seats. UKIP are demoted from the majority opposition on Lincolnshire County Council with only 10 seats left. Labour form the official opposition with 12 of 77 seats in total.

September 18, 2013: Chris Pain is removed from UKIP following a meeting of the party’s emergency disciplinary committee.

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“Yet more signs of the stranglehold the current “management” and their appointed cronies are imploding the party from within. UAF reigns supreme. The current “leadership” – and I don’t necessarily mean Farage – is engaged in creating positions for its like minded cronies who make the jibes about UKIP being “far right” look ridiculous.Democracy no longer exists within UKIP. If these people don’t like you, they get rid or make your life a nightmare by using their UAF pals who infest Facebook and Twitter to hack and clone your account – then make up vicious lies about you. There are uneasy allegiances with a group of nutters who go by the name of “EDLnews” – and they are not EDL, they are solely engaged with “outing” people they THINK are ex EDL and BNP, currently proscribed under the party’s constitution. Of course these numpties usually get it all wrong but it just suits their purpose anyway.Wait till the REAL truth comes out soon. Some much less than squeaky clean types – and they are definitely NOT right wingers. Worse still, THEY are the ones making up lies about everyone else to cover their own tracks.”
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    I was one of those that UKIP clearly “didn’t like” and “didn’t fit the mold” when i ran as a candidate in the CC elections in East Sussex last May…

UKIP management’s cronies hacked in to my Facebook account (allegedly), created a ghost or clone account using my name, photograph and my email to access my main account…
wrote a whole load of anti semitic rubbish in my name which no thanks to their useless press department, resulted in a nationwide indeed, world wide negative press campaign against me which has carried on over many months.

The last publication that i am aware of, with negative comments related to myself was just a month ago in The Sunday Times!

They deliberately tried to wreck my reputation and standing in the community and possibly make me a target of extremists who assumed (wrongly) that i am anti semitic and a crazed conspiracy theorist…
they then, suspended me.

It was a vicious, nasty, reckless and dangerous attempt to discredit me. It was a difficult time but, i weathered it and held my head high.

I still ran in the CC Elections and indeed my colleague and i did incredibly well. Why?
Because the local community and indeed UKIP branch members didn’t for one minute believe the negative publicity cooked up by these vicious but incredibly ambitious thugs within UKIP… Shameful.

I have since resigned from UKIP and am convinced that UKIPs upper management were behind this witch hunt.
There is no way that UKIP are committed to free speech or democracy.
I believe they are just another right wing controlled opposition party who are supporting and abetting the establishment’s agenda.

Some of grassroots remain in denial but, when the truth comes out and it will, they are in for an unpleasant awakening when they realise they have all been well and truly used.. and conned.

There is no loyalty within UKIP, no respect and no thanks for hard work or loyal support by its members, candidates and councillors… in fact, from what i have witnessed first hand, grassroots are lucky to receive so much as the crumbs from management’s table.
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    Claire Khaw · Top Commenter · Satirist at Political Entertainment
    Anna-Marie Crampton The trouble is that all members of all parties are routinely exploited and abused.
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Susan Lockwood · Top Commenter · Co founder at Buzzy Bees Cleaning Services
Good luck to Chris, always hard working, upfront and instantly likeable.
Much to his credit..it’s also helped in his downfall.
His only handicap as far as I see it is that he was too popular!
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The story told, of her experiences, by Anna-Marie Crampton seems to be replicated by that of Gabi Coleman, whose story is,, told elsewhere on this web blog!

The incompetence of UKIP leadership and the internicine squabbling amongst the claque is further displayed by the fact that their misshandling of the squabbling has now spilled into all areas of the press & media as with this article from The BBC:

Lincolnshire UKIP councillor Chris Pain expelled from party

Councillor Chris Pain Chris Pain was elected to Lincolnshire County Council in May along with 15 other UKIP councillors

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The former leader of UKIP on Lincolnshire County Council has been expelled from the party.

Councillor Chris Pain was removed following a hearing in front of a UKIP: disciplinary panel in London.

Details of the reasons for his expulsion have not been disclosed, but Mr Pain said he was in dispute with party chairman Steve Crowther.

Mr Pain said he “feels sickened” at the way he has been treated and planned to appeal against the decision.

‘Dynamite to crack walnut’ Mr Pain, a councillor for Wainfleet and Burgh, said: “After nine years of hard work, and achieving some of the best results in the history of the party, they are throwing me out.

“It seems like they’ve used a stick of dynamite to crack a walnut.”

He added: “I’ve always thought the party was just and fair – but this raises some grave concerns about the leadership.”

UKIP is yet to comment on the decision to remove Mr Pain.

The party gained 16 seats on Lincolnshire County Council in May, causing the Conservatives to lose overall control and form a coalition with the Liberal Democrats and several independents.

Earlier this month, following suspension by the party, Mr Pain was removed as leader of the group on the county council.

He then formed a breakaway group with five other members under the banner of “UKIP Lincolnshire”.

Councillor Colin Mair, who represents Tattershall Castle, was appointed acting leader in the county.

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What Excuse Will UKIP Use Next to Suspend Chris Pain?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/09/2013

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itg is interesting to note that only aday or so after this website informed readers that C hris pain was no longer under investigation by the police with regard to racist comments on his facebook site that having been suspended whilst the investigation was underway he was now being suspended for an entirely different reason!

This does seem to add much credibility to the MP3 recording of the conversation between the resigned CEO of UKIP Will Gilpin & Chris Pain, the text of which was published on this blog CLICK HERE.

So it seems that UKIP’s leadership have changed their story and original excuse for suspending Chris Pain from his web comments to the later version, which endorses the MP3 comments of Will Gil;pin, and cites a fall out with Nigel Farage’s placeman Steve Crowther!

Can you imagine what a ghastly place britain would be to live in if UKIP ever gained real power – endless posturing and witch hunts as its various petty luminaries vied for attention and status on the gravy train, at the expense of democracy and morality and in denial of ethics and principles!

Little wonder so many of their more odious supporters are too ashamed to use their real names and hide behind anonimity and foolish names to peddle their filth, their racism, their anti homosexuality and their vile prejudices.

In fact although UKIP is more of a centralised cult than a party and Nigel Farage is their only perfgormer of any merit, as shown by his efforts in the EU Parliament where he sings most ably in return for his luxury seat on the gravy tyrain as shown by:
CLICK HERE and also HERE

It is unfortunate that so very very few ever watch or listen to Nigel Farage;s more competent speeches and it is clear that UKIP, for all its huff and puff is little more than a one man band when it comes to decision making the centralisation of authoritarian control and the delivery of anything passing for a competent speech.

Imagine how much UKIP could have achieved if it had put a fraction of its energy into silencing its odious and self serving staff and the claque who make such fools of themselves and the party on the internet so damagingly and had for the last 20 years concentrated on training a team of well informed spokesmen to show the benefits for Britain when we Leave-The-EU and seeking to show in every town, city and county council just how every item of consequential policy and expenditure and every petty fogging bit of regulation was a matter controlled without democratic imput of any meaningful degree in the centralised EU bureaucracy!

As it is, due to apauling leadership and a total lack of training, gravitas, a plan, strategy, tactics or even a clear Exit & Survival Strategy to Leave-The_EU – they have due to this a 20 year track record of abject failure in domestic politics and even now as they pander to the lowest common denominator of populism exploiting racism, immigration, xenophobia and anti homosexuality they have still failed to get anywhere near getting an MP elected and have a risible 140 or so elected Councillors out of some 8,000 available seats!

UKIP under its p[resent leadership and structure is beyond any doubt amongst the informed – UNFIT FOR PURPOSE to lead Britain to Leave-The-EU.

One performing monkey, performing mostly in obscurity clearly does little to Leave-The-EU without a competent organ grinder the organ itself lies trashed in the gutter as tyhe higher up the tree the monkey climbs the more you see its @rse – as has been shown by the welter of bad publicity the cult itself has received!

Lincolnshire UKIP councillor Chris Pain removed as group leader

Councillor Chris Pain
Chris Pain was elected to Lincolnshire County Council in May along with 15 other UKIP councillors

A councillor suspended by UKIP has been removed as leader of the party’s group on Lincolnshire County Council.

Chris Pain said he had been suspended from UKIP because of a “serious issue” between himself and national chairman Steve Crowther.

Nine of Lincolnshire’s UKIP councillors have now signed a letter to the county council’s chief executive saying Mr Pain has been removed from their group.

A national UKIP spokesman would not comment on why he had been suspended.

He said: “Chris Pain has been suspended under the emergency powers of the chairman of UKIP.

“It would be wrong and unfair to say anything more about the case before the committee has heard the evidence against Mr Pain and his defence.”

UKIP gained 16 seats on Lincolnshire County Council in May, causing the Conservatives to lose overall control and form a coalition with the Liberal Democrats and several Independents.

Racism allegations Mr Pain continues to be a councillor for Wainfleet and Burgh, and he told BBC Radio Lincolnshire “there is no way I would desert the voters”.

“I put a complaint against UKIP national chairman Steve Crowther which might be subject of legal action and I can’t discuss that any further at the moment,” he said.

“It’s just a serious issue between myself and Steve Crowther.”

Councillor Colin Mair, who represents Tattershall Castle, has been appointed acting UKIP leader in Lincolnshire.

Mr Pain was investigated by Lincolnshire Police for alleged racist remarks posted on Facebook, but police said on Monday no action would be taken against him.

Tony McArdle, chief executive of Lincolnshire County Council, said: “We have today received notification from a majority of the members of the UKIP group to the effect that Councillor Chris Pain is not now a member of that group and consequently not its leader.

“As from today, Councillor Colin Mair will be acting as leader of the UKIP group.”

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Keeping Up With The UKIP Ferrets & The Sack!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 10/09/2013

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From: mike nattrass [mailto:ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk]
Sent: 10 September 2013 09:42
Subject: FW: Chris PainSorry everyone,

Now we have Total Totalitarianism in UKIP.
TWO NEC MEMBERS THROWN OUT BY STEVE CROWTHER

Already Doug Denny has been thrown out of the NEC by Steve Crowther because he told the truth about the Gerrymandering of the selection process and flagged up at least 4 UKIP rules which were broken to distort the selection process …. but the UKIP Constitution (which I opposed) allows for “retrospective voting” so there can be no court challenge…… unless you like nailing jelly to the ceiling….. Yes I tried!

Here (see below) we have the next NEC member who refuses to stay silent. There are more keeping their heads down and away from Nigels hit squad ..Crowther/Reeve/Fairweather.

Why do we elect NEC members?….. to be threatened by Crowther/Farage or to represent member’s concerns?

You are being told how to vote for MEP candidates by a system that excludes any distraction away from “The Chosen Ones” … the ones who comply without question. Totally excluding in all regions those who have worked hardest for this party.

Kindly and well respected member Alan Sheath a long time UKIP member and over 80 wanted to make his point at the conference in Telford, he asked permission to hand out information, and was threatened by Jill Seymour with the police! (you can see the emails)

I suggest you look further down your voting list of candidates …e.g. Michael Wrench who has done so much work for UKIP, he has a good heart and gets little credit because he is loyal to freedom of thought. Those who submit to one man’s domination are clearly listed at the top of the papers, they are cronies and cronies of cronies.

If you read what Crowther says in the magazine it means he could have saved most candidates the £500… because he already knew who he would choose.

I will be making a more comprehensive report of the hidden issues, bullying and fiddles made in the name of UKIP later.

Obviously I will be standing at the 2014 MEP elections ….. but I am barred by Crowther/Farage from standing for UKIP to defend my own seat.
Yet the UKIP members did not vote against me.

Mike

MIKE NATTRASS MEP

PS I realise that Nigel is the best speaker and a fantastic front man a fantantist performer but not a Leader. I support UKIP policy and as a previous Party Chairman, Deputy Leader and Transport Spokesman I have made some of it. I will however not see UKIP ruined by Totalitarianism, without speaking up…….we beleave in the votes of members, freedom to speak our minds and democracy … the obvious facts now point in a different bullying direction.

WHO INTERVIEWED me? CROWTHER (employee of a fellow candidate) CASSIDY (aged 22 who reports to Crowther as a UKIP employee) and FAIRWEATHER (Nigel’s person and new NEC member) Oh by the way, the NEC thought they agreed that employees would not be interviewing… but we can soon fix that!


Subject: Fwd: Chris Pain
From: chris.ukip@icloud.com
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 22:21:19 +0100
To: alanbown@btinternet.com
Dear NEC members,
I have just received this email after having sent a comprehensive letter covering all of the aspects of my issue earlier today. My deputy leader on the council, was informed by Pete Reeves that I had been thrown out of the party and he was to take over. Has my case been reviewed since my email was sent and a different decision taken.
As this will cause serious damage to our party locally and more importantly effect our vote at the ballot box, can you all please address this as a matter of urgency.
Regards,
Chris Pain
Councillor Chris Pain
Lincolnshire County Council
UKIP Group Leader & Leader of the Opposition
07771 980477 or 07876 505055
cllrc.pain@lincolnshire.gov.uk
chris.ukip@btinternet.com
www.chrispain.com


From: Steve Crowther <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 20:53:34 +0100
To: Victoria Ayling<victoria.ayling@gmail.com>; Paul Oakden<pauloakden@aol.com>; Peter Reeve<reeve@ukip.org>; Robin Hunter-Clarke<robinhunter-clarke@live.co.uk>; Don Ransome<ukip@dransome.plus.com>
Cc: Gawain Towler<gawain@gmail.com>; Alexandra Phillips<a.phillips@ukip.org>
Subject: Chris Pain

Dear All

I can confirm that Chris Pain has been suspended from membership of UKIP, for two months, as of Friday 6 September, under the UKIP Constitution clause 11.9. The suspension will be confirmed or rescinded at an emergency disciplinary hearing now being arranged by the Party Secretary.

Regards, Steve

Stephen Crowther, Chairman, UK Independence Party
Eastacombe House, Heanton, Barnstaple, N. Devon EX31 4DG
Phone 01271 813844 Mobile 07775 787579

The contents of this email are confidential

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Chris Pain Cleared by Police, what now for UKIP?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 10/09/2013

Chris Pain Cleared by Police, what now for UKIP?
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Chris Pain Cleared by Police of racism, what now for UKIP and particularly the centralised power of their risible claims to be Libertarian? This should leave Steve Crowther & Nigel Farage in some embarrassment at their rapid willingness to exploit the situation to suit their own ends!!

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in the light of the MP3 phone recording of facts relative to UKIP leadership’s actions in blocking & barring Chris Pain, as reported on this web log, this police outcome would seem to leave UKIP leadership in some difficulty particularly Steve Crowther and his puppet master Nigel Farage.

This exacerbates the very real cause for embarrassment surrounding the rigging of selection processes!

Police to take ‘no further action’ over UKIP racism allegations

Chris Pain

Chris Pain

Lincolnshire Police say there will be ‘no further action’ taken against members of UKIP that were accused of making racist posts on the internet.

Officers have been carrying out investigations in the past few months into members of UKIP, including county leader Chris Pain.

The allegations included complaints that they posted comments, including those of a racist nature, on to social media sites, such as Facebook, and ‘caused or reinforced racial hatred’.

Coun Pain won the Wainfleet and Burgh ward at May’s Lincolnshire County Council elections and leads the UKIP opposition group. He will stand to try to become Boston and Skegness MP at the 2015 General Election.

He and Boston North councillor Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright were accused by campaign group Hope Not Hate of posting ‘racist rants’.

Although the investigation largely centred on alleged posts made by Coun Pain, The Standard understands material from Coun Keywood-Wainwright – who won a by-election in Fenside last week – was also looked at.

A senior detective has reviewed the evidence and decided that no further action will be taken by police against either Mr Pain or the other UKIP members accused.

A spokesman said: “Lincolnshire Police take all allegations of hate crime extremely seriously and, where appropriate, will refer these matters to the Crown Prosecution Service, who, in our experience, take an equally serious stance.

“Police are reliant on there being a sufficient amount of evidence, of a quality which would support a decision to prosecute anyone suspected of carrying out crimes of this nature.

“When dealing with internet based activity there has to be an audit trail which enables us to prove the person who is suspected of displaying information on the Web is actually the person pressing the computer keys.

“There are many factors which make such an investigation very complex. Officers must work with the powers granted under specific legislation and, where the servers and the administration of the sites falls outside the United Kingdom, the police and other enforcement agencies are often unable to obtain the relevant information needed to prove who placed comments or information on one of the sites. This is particularly the case with the main social media sites, such as Twitter and Facebook.

“In the world of increasingly technical equipment and expertise, it is always possible for false profiles to be created and information to be posted on a user’s account without their knowledge.

“In such cases, it is very difficult for police to trace the origins of the information and to be sufficiently certaint that the person alleged to be displaying some comment or information actually did so.”

Lincolnshire Police DI Andy Wardell said: “This problem is exacerbated when the social network account is closed by an individual who has either become aware or is directly made aware by someone that comments have been seen and the informant is going to contact the police.

“Fictional police and CSI shows often depict investigations where information in cyber space can be traced instantly but the reality is very different.

“Therefore, if any person discovers information displayed or comments posted to social networking sites which they feel are racist ,or made with the intent of stirring up racism, they should inform the police immediately and not post responses or enter into dialect with the individual believed to have made such racist comments.

“Doing so will inevitably result in the comments being removed and the account closed making it impossible to achieve a satisfactory result with any investigation.”

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