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>GP – RN: A Personalised Example Of Ukip’s Endemic Corruption

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/12/2014

>GP – RN: A Personalised Example Of Ukip’s Endemic Corruption
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>GP – RN: Richard North gives A Personalised Example Of Ukip’s Endemic Corruption and shows just how long and how widely the corruption has existed in Ukip.

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Hi,
further to m,y post regarding this widely covered presentation of Ukip’s endemic corruption CLICK HERE, which was in both the blogosphere and the legacy media,
Richard North has shown there is nothing new about this Ukip corruption of basic democratic principles and their unethical rigging of selection processes and elections, both internally as a party and thus corrupting UK elections, North has given details of his own direct experience and then the desperate and dishonest efforts of Ukip to try to belittle and denigrate his factual reporting of such matters.
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Wednesday 3 December 2014

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The trouble with doing reviews of Times pieces is that they are behind the paywall, so you can’t just link to them and rely on the reader to click-through to get the details, thereby only having to publish the bare bones of the story. You have to post virtually the whole thing, which sometimes means giving more emphasis to a story than it merits.

This would have been the case with this not very important story, albeit on the front page (above). It’s about UKIP rigging their own selection procedures for MEP candidates. Fortunately, though, the Independent has run it, which means I don’t have to go into the detail.

The reason I needed to mention it at all is to make a quick point, as part of a more general piece about Ukip, correcting what appears to be a standard attack briefing that party supporters use to libel me on comment threads, in a usually forlorn attempt at character assassination.

The claim is made that I resigned the party “before I was pushed”, after the election of Godfrey Bloom as Yorkshire Region MEP in 2004. To stop this falsehood spreading it, I have to rebut it. In fact, I resigned in 2003, in protest at the way the selection procedure had been rigged, and the way Farage, with the complicity of David Lott, then party chairman, quite deliberately blocked the appeal which could have set aside this selection and put me in pole position.

It is the case, therefore, that Ukip has been rigging its selection processes for many years, which partly explains why so many of the current batch of MEPs are such dross. Any such assertion from me, though, brings forward the accusation that I hold a “grudge” against The Dear Leader – so it is useful to have the legacy media detail other examples of rigged selection – doubtless because it too has a “grudge”.

Actually, no one who knows me would ever suggest that I had such a base relationship with a man with whom I shared a desk for four years, and for whom I wrote speeches. Life is far too short. And even if I had become a Ukip MEP, I would almost certainly have resigned over the embarrassing Kilroy debacle, so the past hasn’t been changed that much. Right now, I would still be out on my own.

Rather than a grudge, what I do have is the most profound contempt for Farage – the calm, icy sort. Any passion has long gone. And that’s actually a very different thing. Outside the cult, his incompetence, dishonesty and other less than savoury personal attributes do not really support any other view, but above all else, his attempts actively to block policy development have to be the most important reasons for regarding him in such an unfavourable light.

Overall, this “rolling dysfunction” is holding back the party and threatens to bring down the entire anti-EU movement. An example of the immediate effects are picked up by Dr Eric Edmund, a perceptive critic of Ukip and its leader. He links to yet another train-wreck interview, this one with current chairman, Steve Crowther, graphically illustrating the policy chaos that exists within the party.

This is chaos which intensifies by the hour, after Farage disowned a policy on camera, despite it having been minted by deputy leader Nutall at the Doncaster conference in September – of which Farage was apparently unaware. That left him to admit he had “misspoken“, after being forced to acknowledge that the policy on sex education remained party policy.

However, frequenting – as one does – the occasional comment thread, I recently had my own personal epiphany, coming to the realisation that Ukip’s root problem is that its people don’t even understand what policy is. Even with the benefit of a thoroughly-grounded seminar in the principles of policy-making, I asserted, they wouldn’t understand what they were being told, much less be able to put it into practice.

What, in essence, the party is producing is a list of aspirations rather than policies. The core failure is the lack of any connection between what they want to happen, and the means of making those things happen, in such a way that one can be assured that the outcomes are deliverable. This confusion between aspiration and policy means that the party can never progress to a state of coherence.

Party supporters, on the other hand (and not entirely unreasonably), point to the similar inadequacies of the established parties. But this simply highlights the further failure to understand the nature of politics. It is for the challengers, with no track record, to demonstrate their capabilities. Conventionally, this is done through the mechanism of policy statements – something which Ukip has so far failed to do.

Over the months to come, this failing will become increasingly evident, as Mr Cameron unveils his “play”, with which he seeks to undermine and eventually destroy the upstart. Putting together a series of technical measures, complete with some theatrical contrast provided by apparently obstructive Poles, he will attempt to do this by delivering a policy which shows that he has the potential to control immigration from within the EU.

On the other hand, Ukip – despite making immigration its core issue, eliding it with its anti-EU sentiment – has failed yet to deliver a credible (or any) policy on how it would control immigration from outwith the EU.

It has failed in this context to realise that “controlling our borders” is not a policy, per se, but an aspiration – and a wholly unrealistic one at that. As long as the UK admits 34 million visitors to this country each year – the majority without visas – it has effectively ceded perimeter control, the system then relying on other layers and stratagems.

The party might be better off calling for control over immigration policy. That is an altogether more realistic and focused aspiration than “controlling and managing our borders”, which it currently tells us it would seek to do. The act or process of “controlling and managing” is exactly that – an act or process – a means to an end. In policy terms, it is meaningless without declared objective and then the detail of how the controlling and managing would be done.

Nor indeed does it help having Ukip telling us that: “We will extend to EU citizens the existing points-based system for time-limited work permits”. That does not begin to constitute a policy. Nor even is it, in itself, a component of a policy.

To have the makings of a policy, the putative policy would have to be directed to, and linked with, a specific objective or outcome. It would then have to be couched in such terms as to make it clear that it could contribute to the declared objective – whatever that might be. Any system or process, as such, is blind – and has as much a capability to obstruct as support any particular policy line.

But where the real policy wonks play is in co-ordination – the thing known more commonly as “joined up policy”. The “perfect” policy is one thing, but can get a little bit raggy when you have to take other considerations into account. For instance, you might well come up with the best in highly-polished defence policies, only to have it fall apart when your foreign policy delivers you enemies you didn’t want, didn’t expect and can’t fight – a bit like UK policy really.

Here, the rank amateurism of Ukip comes to the fore, best evident when one reads that: “UKIP would not seek to remain in the European Free Trade Area (EFTA) or European Economic Area (EEA) while those treaties maintain a principle of free movement of labour, which prevents the UK managing its own borders”.

Now here one must recall that Ukip hasn’t actually declared what it is trying to achieve, and we also know that “managing” borders is not a policy as such, but a process. So we end up with a political party that is prepared to ditch a proven and workable trade relationship because it interrupts an indeterminate process aimed at an undefined effect, with no specified outcome.

In this event, we are open to the suggestion that Ukip may be well-motivated and be seeking a desirable outcome. But since the party has neither defined its preferred outcome nor any credible means by which it might achieve it, we can be excused from accepting that it has any policies.

Meanwhile, we can see Mr Cameron’s policy being rolled out, the overall objective undeclared but loosely translated as “stuff Ukip”. Helping in this noble endeavour are his allies who are talking down immigration. They are also rubbishing the “Norway option”, something they have in common with Ukip – which must tell you something.

Meanwhile, we have the entertaining prospect of theatrical Poles, providing the backcloth for Mr Cameron’s stunning victory to come. The harder he has to battle, the better and more convincing he will look.

If Ukip had policies, of course, it would be easier to assess Mr Cameron’s games, by reference to what Ukip had on offer. One would simply compare what is with what could be. That’s the way politics is supposed to work. Poor Ukip, though, hasn’t discovered this yet – and Farage never will. If his party grows up, things might be different but, for the moment, contempt seems in order for the Peter Pan of politics.

Richard North 03/12/2014

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Ukip’s Corruption Is Endemic & Hardly News!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/12/2014

Ukip’s Corruption Is Endemic & Hardly News!
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Hi,
you will note details of corruption in Ukip and of internal rigging and dishonesty in Ukip’s internal selection and election processes that show it is endemic – you may remember the detailed example shown by the Ukip returning Officer that exposed the corruption of the process and the involvement of officers of the party, including Christopher Gill and others CLICK HERE.
Then of course there are many resignation letters of well informed elected officers of the party such as:
Richard Suchorzewski CLICK HERE
John West CLICK HERE
Niall Warry CLICK HERE
Douglas Denny CLICK HERE
etc.
You will note from Douglas Denny’s letter of resignation he boasts of having detailed evidence of the criminality in Nigel Farage’s party, which as we all know is managed by Nigel Farage on a very hands on basis using his personal appointees, such as Douglas Denny, to corrupt processes to obtain the results he personally required!
I always believed that it was a criminal offence to fail to report crime and thus I wonder when Douglas Denny will be called to account on criminal charges.
 TIMES - Ukip Rig Elections 01TIMES - Ukip Rig Elections 02-Dec-2014 - 02
Then again we know that Nigel Farage’s doxy Annabelle Fuller acted on his behalf to rig elections whether in her corrupt move to belittle John West as a candidate by breech of data protection laws posting a confidential video on You Tube, a matter about which she lied, lies which led to lies from Nigel Farage and the resignation of John Wittaker MEP’s resignation as chairman.
Or as portrayed in Julia Langmaid’s letter:
LANGMAID, Julia 01 - Letter 31-07-2010
 Also seek out the details, all of which are covered on this web site, of John Wittacker MEP’s depature as Chairman or that of Chris Pain, Mike Nattrass MEP, or the lies of Ukip surrounding the departure of Jasna Badzak or Nikki Sinclaire MEP, Dr. David Abbott, Dr. Eric Edmonds, Roger Knappman MEP & Leader, Martin Hasslam, Petrina Holdsworth Chairman, Marta Andreasen MEP, David Bannerman MEP, John Petley (unless it paid!) and many many more who quit in disgust at the corruption in Nigel Farage’s party, which he has operated over many years as a one man fiefdom with absolute control. A control which with the help of Douglas Denny and other ‘placemen’ he  enshrined in the corruption of the party constitution and rule book.
The media has also covered details of positions on MEP selection lists purchased by candidates in some detail previously!
Nigel Farage’s mask – the affable chappy in the pub act is clearly slipping
FARAGE, Nigel  104one can hear him already either blaming everyone else and accepting no responsibility for the actions of the party he has controlled, in every aspect, since Alan Sked left in disgust, or taking a leaf out of the book of his chums in the BNP, who are I note now openly backing him as do the EDL and other extremists, racists and the self serving!
He is more than likely to try to claim this is just a Government smear or the establishment trying to damage the party because, he will claim, it is doing so well.
This is of course just the dishonest spin of politics, as one can tell by even a glance at the facts and a small amount of research of the many key people in Ukip that Farage has fallen out with and just how implacable are their enemies who their dishonesty, corruption and offensive behaviour has done so much to earn.

Ukip ‘massaging’ selection process

Ukip’s selection process has been manipulated to allow the leadership to install favoured candidates, it has been claimed.

Leaked emails reveal a raft of concerns about the way the system in Nigel Farage’s party has been operated, including suggestions it has been “massaged by an internal clique to suit pre-determined outcomes”.

Psychometric tests, interviews and assessments were used by the party to weed out potential problem candidates ahead of the campaign for the May’s elections to the European parliament.

 
Ukip's leadership manipulated the party's selection process, it is claimed

Ukip’s leadership manipulated the party’s selection process, it is claimed

According to emails seen by The Times, Andrew Moncrieff, a member of the party’s governing committee, claimed it had turned into “another classic Ukip behind closed doors selection”.

He wrote last year: “There is the question of whether the final scores were massaged by an internal clique to suit pre-determined outcomes.

“What started out as an attempt to produce a transparent, equitable system has turned into another classic Ukip behind closed doors selection.”

Mr Moncrieff asked why “paid party lackeys have done surprisingly well” and raised the prospect of the involvement of “Nigel’s henchmen”.

Ukip deputy chairman Neil Hamilton claimed the list of candidates contained “manifest absurdities” in a private email, according to the newspaper.

“As you can imagine, I’m not pleased with the MEP selection process,” Mr Hamilton wrote. “Yet again, things have not been thought through properly and badly executed.”

In one email exchange, Will Gilpin, the party’s former chief executive, wrote: “When I saw the (MEP selection) list I concluded that the party doesn’t really want to change, that the same sycophancy will be the driving force.”

Mr Moncrieff and Mr Hamilton did not make the party’s shortlist for the European elections.

Douglas Denny, who was selected in an open hustings to be the Portsmouth South parliamentary candidate but was later dropped by the leadership, accused the party of being “immoral, undemocratic and deeply corrupt”, according to The Times.

Ukip said that its selection systems were fair and insisted Mr Farage had “no hand” in the process.

A spokesman said: “The results were not manipulated, and Nigel Farage had no hand whatsoever in the selection process, finding out the assessment results only at the NEC at which they were unveiled.

“The fairness of the process was, in fact, tested in court. The regional lists were not altered, except in Scotland where several candidates resigned, or where one or two candidates resigned in other regions.

“The process was not designed to ensure that anybody specific did not make the shortlist; it was designed, using external consultants, to ensure that comparatively unsuitable people did not make the shortlist, and worked well in that respect.”

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The Times in splendid isolation behind its pay wall has worked up the story with further details and would seem to have sourced much of the information via Alexi talking with the embittered scoundrel and imaginitive fantasist Douglas Denny, who is slowly spilling ther beans as his revenge for being demoted from being one of Nigel Farage’s more corrupt fixers!
Whether Alexi will manage to gain access to the hard evidence that will put Farage in prison, as boasted of by Denny, before Denny has his collar felt for colluding in criminal activity and failing to supply the facts with the evidence to the rightfull authorities is a moot question!

Ukip ‘fixing’ selection of candidates, emails claim

To view the originaldo buy a copy of today’s Times, where you will find the full text rather more decorously laid out!

Ukip ‘fixing’ selection of candidates, emails claim

 Nigel Farage

Nigel Farage has gained support by pitching Ukip as an ‘anti-establishment’ party Carl Court/Getty Images

Alexi Mostrous and Billy Kenber

Ukip has manipulated the selection of prospective parliamentary candidates and is run by Nigel Farage as an “undemocratic” cabal, according to claims in a leaked cache of documents seen by The Times.

 

More than a dozen activists previously loyal to the Eurosceptic party have resigned over perceived efforts by Mr Farage and his allies to remove long-serving Ukip members from standing as MPs and MEPs in winnable seats.

 

As Mr Farage attempts to broaden Ukip’s appeal and to capitalise on its recent successes, some of his most longstanding foot-soldiers have accused the party of ignoring its own rules on selection procedures to the benefit of favoured candidates.

 

Neil Hamilton, now Ukip’s deputy chairman, warned in a private email that its list of MEP candidates for May’s European elections contained “manifest absurdities”.

 

“As you can imagine, I’m not pleased with the MEP selection process,” Mr Hamilton wrote. “Yet again, things have not been thought through properly and badly executed.”

 

In another leaked email, Will Gilpin, Ukip’s former chief executive, wrote: “When I saw the [MEP selection] list I concluded that the party doesn’t really want to change, that the same sycophancy will be the driving force.”

 

Mr Farage has gained support by pitching Ukip as an “anti-establishment” party seeking to shake up the old boys’ club in Westminster. Internal documents reveal, though, that senior figures questioned whether party leaders had tailored interview questions to discriminate against certain MEP candidates or had altered some candidates’ ratings to suit their own preferences.

 

Instead of allowing local branches to choose candidates for the European elections in May this year, Ukip required potential MEPs to undergo psychometric testing and a series of formal interviews and assessments. They were given a rating out of 100 based on their performance and placed on a shortlist that was voted on by every party member.

 

“There is the question of whether the final scores were ‘massaged’ by an internal clique to suit pre-determined outcomes,” Andrew Moncrieff, who remains on Ukip’s governing committee, wrote last year. “What started out as an attempt to produce a transparent, equitable system has turned into another classic Ukip ‘behind closed doors’ selection.”

 

Last night, a party spokesman said: “What we see are a series of claims by disappointed candidates. The system was fair and rigorous, and the quality of candidates continues to improve. As Ukip grows there are those who have been around a long time who feel that by dint of long service they are entitled to jobs and roles. The opposite is true, as today there is far greater competition. This can only be a good thing for the party and the country as a whole.”

 

Steve Crowther, the party chairman, had to reassure the party’s national executive committee last year that Mr Farage had “never at any stage given me even the slightest indication of who should and should not be on the list. Not once.”

 

Mr Moncrieff, who like Mr Hamilton did not make the European shortlist, questioned the involvement of “Nigel’s henchmen” in the process and asked why “paid party lackeys have done surprisingly well”. He suggested that a likely reason was “that it suits the party hierarchy to get people paid by the party elected as MEPs so they can be paid for by the EU”.

 

Two Ukip insiders have suggested that at least one candidate’s scores may have been downgraded.

 

“The candidate got his results [from the firm which carried out tests o/n behalf of Ukip],” one source said. “They told him he was one of the highest. His scores were higher than his position on the list, that was for sure.”

 

The insider said that members of the party’s governing committee were not shown the candidates’ scores and were simply presented with a ranked list of 60 candidates at the same time as it was published to members.

 

David Gale, Ukip’s former candidate for the police and crime commissioner role in Derbyshire, resigned last year after suggesting that one party official had justified the omission of an MEP candidate on the basis that “all the members would vote for him and we can’t have that”. Ukip strongly denied the claims at the time.

 

Rifts in the party over selection look set to continue into next year. Douglas Denny, a former Farage loyalist who joined Ukip in 1999, accused the party of being “immoral, undemocratic and deeply corrupt” after he was deselected as the party’s parliamentary candidate for Portsmouth South.

 

Mr Denny was selected 18 months ago after winning an open hustings but was dropped by Ukip’s leadership after it asserted the right to change candidates in so-called “key seats”. In a resignation note he said that Ukip had “demonstrated conclusively that they are willing to manipulate the MP candidates’ selection process . . . and have changed the rules recently to allow this to be done. Those choosing will be under the shadow of Nigel Farage.”

 

Andrew MacDowell, Portsmouth’s chairman, also resigned from the party in protest. Roger Bird, a Ukip member, told a local newspaper that Mr Denny’s deselection was a “routine event”.

 

More recently, the entire local party branch in South Hereford voted to dissolve itself in support of the prospective parliamentary candidate, Kip Waistell, who resigned after a Ukip MEP allegedly threatened to have him “deselected”.

 

Mr Waistell claimed in his resignation letter that “there are those within Ukip who have sought from day one to manipulate people against each other in this constituency”. Ukip’s response was that a “lacklustre” Mr Waistell “jumped before he was pushed”.

 

Last year, about 200 Ukip members paid £500 each to enter the process to become an MEP candidate in the European elections. Some 77 shortlisted names paid a further £360 for screening tests, bringing the party more than £125,000 in income.

 

Mr Crowther told NEC members in an email that the selection process was “calculated to be self-liquidating”. However, Ukip’s 2013 accounts listed the costs of MEP selection as £32,671, suggesting it made a profit of more than £95,000.

 

Caroline Gent, a Ukip councillor, wrote to the party’s NEC last year to express her “total dismay” after candidates she considered to be superior were passed over. “The whole thing stinks,” she said. “I thought UKIP were supposed to be honest.”

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Yet More Ukip Corruption In Lincolnshire

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/12/2014

Yet More Ukip Corruption In Lincolnshire
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 Yet More Ukip Corruption In Lincolnshire, yet another rigging of selection process – this time in Ukip’s No. 2 target Westminster Seat!

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Hi,
yet further provenance of the total corruption of the process of democracy within Ukip – a circumstance repeated time and time again making a total mokery of the much vaunted principles of democracy in Ukip.
There is absolutely no doubt that there has been constant and continuous rigging of Ukip selection and election processes. Ukip has been utterly dishonest in its due process and has not only rigged selections and elections but has used them to steal money from their members – offering democracy and votes to members who had put their names forward with various payments required to obtain the right to stand for el;ection!
Corruption in Ukip and overt fraud has been endemic, whether as when Douglas Denny dishonestly acted for Nigel Farage to do all he could to ensure Farage was elected leader – a stunning act of corruption and dishonesty from someone supposedly empowered as the Returning Officer for the election with the duty to ensure ‘fair play’ and adherence to the rules yet himself cheating for Nigel Farage directly!
Douglas Denny was caught out, in no small part by this blog which exposed the corruption, subsequently he was removed as Returning Officer by the NEC, regardless of his hissy fit and lies to try to cover his tracks. Douglas Denny’s removal however (which is fully documented despite intervention dishonestly to try to remove all the evidence given by my blogs) However unfortunately by that time the damage was done and the election of Farage was nothing more than a corrupt coronation.
There are many more examples of the corruption of Ukip which have beenconclusively proven – below is just yet another example:

Nigel Farage with Robin Hunter-Clarke

UKIP’s oft-burnished reputation as a democratic grassroots party is set to take a battering with its own members — after the party’s top committee intervened to install one of their own number as the candidate for their #2 target seat.

With polling from Survation giving the party a massive 20-point lead, 22 year-old councillor and National Executive Committee (NEC) member Robin Hunter-Clarke is set to become the youngest MP in more than 30 years if he prevails in the Lincolnshire seat of Boston and Skegness, which is second only to Clacton in its demographic receptiveness to UKIP.

But emails leaked to Scrapbook lay bare a conspiracy amongst party top brass to install Hunter-Clarke as candidate. The day before the selection hustings was to take place, shortlisted candidates received a message from a local party official notifying them of “an anomalous situation”:

“I greatly regret that this situation has arisen and I hope that you will appreciate that it has done so solely as a result of the intervention of the NEC.

Apparently they’d decided to unilaterally install Hunter-Clarke on the shortlist, with corrupt former Tory minister Neil Hamilton withdrawing his name:

“The shortlist was duly drawn up and was submitted to the NEC. Unusually, they made adjustments to the list and one name was withdrawn and was replaced by another.

And it gets even more stinky. It turns out that Hunter-Clarke was not only on the NEC, which nobbled proceedings in his favour, but also the local committee which drew up the original shortlist in August — meaning he had seen his opponents’ CVs and had the inside track on their strengths and weaknesses.

The local party proposed sharing CVs amongst the other hopefuls — but UKIP’s head of candidates David Soutter didn’t respond until, errrr, the day before the selection meeting:

“Clearly, this was an undesirable situation and the only remedy seemed to be for all of you to have sight of each others’ CVs in order to create a level playing field.

“I wrote to [David Soutter] setting out the situation and suggesting the above remedy. That was 2½ weeks ago and I have just today received Mr. Soutter’s agreement as to this proposed course of action.

Hilariously, Soutter then refused to tell locals which candidate had prevailed at the meeting until a week later:

We’re currently awaiting a statement from ‘Kipper HQ, who insist the whole process has been above board.

UPDATE: UKIP statement: “Steps were taken to ensure that the selection in Boston and Skegness was a fair and balanced one. Robin Hunter-Clarke was selected by to fight the seat by an overriding and overwhelming vote by the Branch.”​

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Further comments ‘e’Mailed to me adds further details to this story of typical Ukip corruption:
Robin Hunter-Clarke was not only on the NEC, which nobbled proceedings in his favour, but also the local committee which drew up the original short-list in August — meaning he had seen his opponents’ CVs and had the inside track on their strengths and weaknesses.

Hunter Clarke is of course a Farage sycophant, and he makes much of being a local lad.  The problem is that he in fact lives in Chester where he is a law student.  Quite how he is going to manage to keep up with his studies is anyone’s guess, let alone fulfil his responsibilities as a councillor in Lincolnshire!
Hunter Clarke faces 260 mile round trips to attend council meetings in Lincoln, and be fully available to his constituents on local matters.  This appears not only to be exhausting for the young chap but potentially very expensive for the public.

He has been parachuted into the Boston & Skegness parliamentary seat – without a bye or leave to the local party.  Even though he has precious little experience of life (he’s still a student) he already sits on the UKIP NEC and is Chairman of a UKIP branch, and he’s a p/t councillor.  Now he’s set to be a PPC for UKIP, and possibly an MP!  What skills does he have to achieve such a rapid rise to prominence, apart from being a sycophant?  If elected will he continue to ‘read law’ and be a p/t MP as he is a p/t councillor?  Or will he become yet another career politico who will never have any first hand experience of the real world?

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Cameron Ducking To Avoid The Misunderstood Ukip Issue!

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Hi,
reading my way around the blogs and papers as regular ports of call I found the article below of particular resonance and believe you will find it a worthwhile read, wherein I incline to agree with both the main thrust of the article and the detail.
Though I must say I do feel that both Cameron and the author are over estimating the likely threat of Ukip holding and serious level of power even as a balnce at Westminster.
Although it is possible that Farage’s party could get as many as 10 seats in the Commons it is very unlikely and a more probable outcome will be none or just one or two, which at this stage does not include a seat for the showman Farage, who has not made any serious appearance in his chosen seat of Thanet for 3 months and when last there appearing on a panel it seems he got bored and lefty early for more pressing matters:

It is of course not unreasonable to assume he merely left to indulge himself as that is how he is most frequently portrayed by his own press office who know him best:

FARAGE, Nigel 103 + Victoria Ayling, Jo Bateman, Alexandra Swann, Sanya-Jeet Thandi

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The threat of Nigel Farage’s party

FARAGE, Nigel 94 ORCHESTRATING A DEFECTION 01

Is not in the next parliament but how they will disrupt the election where they are likely to take more votes from the incumbent governing party than the opposition leading to the calamitous possibility of Ed Milliband and Ed Balls in Downing Street with a minority Government propped up by the self serving SNP – a situation from which Britain may well never recover which would lock us into The EU until its inevitable collapse.

Also be minded that the SNP have 6 MPs in the present Government, a number Nigel Farage’s antics can only aspire to, and they have proved to be a total irrelevance at Westminster and it has been their home territory in Scotland where they have proved so damaging to Scotland, the Scots and the Union.

Sadly, like the SNP, Ukip has only an ability to do damage as it rakes through the gutter of politics aided by a self serving claque and the failures of society – pandering, as it does, to any form of populism however unpleasant, just to gain places on the gravy train when clearly they have no real interest in any issue other than their own income stream as they so clearly damage the honest desire of a huge tranche of the British electorate who seek to overturn our membership of the EU’s political engineering, with a new relationship in association with the EU as an economic common market rather than vassals of the new political Empirate.

I am firmly of the belief that the responsible and honourable way forward for these United Kingdoms has been laid out in detail HERE and HERE

However for some further thoughts, as it pertains to Cameron and the future of the Tory Party:

Saturday, 29 November 2014

The EU Game Cameron Plays

It is a truth universally acknowledged that when it comes to all matters EU, Cameron – the cast iron Prime Minister – is not to be trusted.

Yet he is also a man under political pressure not only from his own party but what he perceives as the UKIP threat for his general election chances. This is evident with his 2017 referendum promise which was made under duress while he had previously been anxious to avoid one at all costs.

So as we enter the final straight leading up to May 2015 we had a much-hyped speech on immigration yesterday. Its purpose not only to try to win the election but form the basis of winning an EU referendum in 2017.

In his speech we had the typical Cameron flourishes which were a rehash of his “commitments” over the Lisbon Treaty. With Lisbon he was repeatedly asked what would happen if it was ratified by all member states before he came to power. “We won’t let matters rest there” was his response, which as we all know, letting matters rest there was precisely what he did. A U-turn that almost certainly cost him the 2010 election.

Yesterday we had a variation of the same theme.

If our concerns fall on deaf ears and we cannot put our relationship with the EU on a better footing, then of course I rule nothing out.

Cameron repeated the “I rule nothing out” during the questions and answers session which followed his speech. Cameron hinting he would consider exit but not actually specifying it and we think it’s fair to assume that he won’t.

However the more interesting point concerned how Cameron was going to attempt to wriggle himself out of the hole which he has very firmly plonked himself in, namely that any reforms to satisfy eurosceptics needs treaty change and that can’t be done in the two years he proposed, if at all.

Cameron acknowledged during the Q&A session following his speech that his whole package required treaty change (my transcript):

Guardian: Patrick Wintour from the Guardian. You’ve cited Open Europe in your speech. Open Europe’s figures show that even if you’re on the minimum wage and you lose your tax credits a Pole or a Bulgarian will still have a financial incentive to come to the UK. Why are you sure that these measures will repel people from coming to the UK and secondly does this require Treaty change in your mind

Cameron: The answer to the second question is yes. These changes taken together they will require some Treaty changes. There’s a debate in Europe about exactly which bits of legislation which bits of the Treaty you’ll need to change but there’s no doubt this package as a whole will require some Treaty change. And I’m confident we can negotiate that.

Such arguments have been made often on the internet so it’s refreshing to see Cameron finally and publicly coming to the same conclusion. It’s also interesting that his numerous references to Open Europe effectively outs it as the europhile organistion that it is and that its own purpose is to keep the UK in the EU.

So…how to remove himself from a hole? Well we get a very clear indication of how he is attempting to do it from the superb analysis by Richard North of Cameron’s speech:

What the Prime Minister has done is narrow down the “reform” spectrum to cover one subject, and one subject only – immigration. To be more specific, it has been narrowed down to freedom of movement.

This has a number of positives for Cameron. By linking the freedom of movement to the issue of benefits, has made Cameron try to look somewhat tougher on both. Then by concentrating largely on immigration he’s turning his fire on UKIP.

With UKIP exiting the EU arena and going for the anti-immigrant vote as its sole purpose, topped off by an all round aggressive undertone that by Farage’s admission alienates half the electorate, it’s an understandable strategy from Cameron. It’s not the definite “ins” or the definite “outs” which matter, it’s the more sensitive “don’t knows”, “couldn’t care less”, and “could be persuaded either way” votes which win a referendum.

Thus by proposing what “appears” to be more a moderate sensible solutions to a concerned electorate rather than one of a more robust and alienating policy of repatriation (nevermind confusion) it would leave UKIP with nowhere else to go. It’s a similar scenario to countries such as Cuba whose economy used to rely mainly on one export- sugar. Any failure for whatever reason in the product and you’re buggered.

Another positive for Cameron is that there are mechanisms within EU membership which are “already possible without treaty change, or even additional EU legislation“. Those which do require treaty change conveniently can be achieved via Article 48 without the need for an IGC (Intergovernmental Conference):

…Article 48 – which deals with treaty change – also allows for a “simplified procedure”. Potentially, this would allow the procedure to be completed on a rainy afternoon in Brussels, perhaps on the margins of a European Council. There is, though, a small condition. The changes permissible are confined to Part Three of the Treaty of the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) which, just as it happens, include freedom of movement. Against all the odds, therefore, Cameron could pull off a quickie treaty and come home in triumph, waving a piece of paper.

What we can see here therefore is Cameron relying on the rather misleadingly named “self-amending” parts of the Lisbon Treaty. He will attempt to return from ‘negotiations’ claiming he’s reformed the EU via Article 48, in this Cameron is attempting to do “a Chamberlain“. It’s as transparent as it’s dishonest.

However there are also some significant negatives with Cameron’s strategy. The hurdles for Cameron are not over. Article 48 is limited to what it can and can’t do and it cannot just change the Treaty of the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) on a whim as and when, despite some of the eurosceptic rhetoric.

While Article 48 by-passes the need for a complex full-blown EU treaty and an IGC, any amendments still require the UK Parliament’s permission (along with the other 27 member states):

The amendments shall enter into force after being ratified by all the Member States in accordance with their respective constitutional requirements.

And under Article 48.7 we can see an implicit approval clause

Any initiative taken by the European Council on the basis of the first or the second subparagraph shall be notified to the national Parliaments. If a national Parliament makes known its opposition within six months of the date of such notification, the decision referred to in the first or the second subparagraph shall not be adopted. In the absence of opposition, the European Council may adopt the decision. 

In short it means Parliament always agrees to amendments unless it specifically objects within a certain time period. Therefore as we can see from Article 48 the key point is that Parliament still has a say in any potential amendments to the Lisbon Treaty.

Thus we could be in an interesting position where Cameron’s much fabled “piece of paper” is rejected by Parliament. Realistically this is unlikely. With all main parties supporting EU membership, the likelihood is Parliament will support it, but with lots of pantomime – Labour and the Lib Dems complaining it didn’t go far enough. Here would be a repeat of ERM membership – all parties supported it, for example Labour as represented by a future Chancellor known as Gordon Brown in 1990 although their criticisim was that membership didn’t go far enough:

We needed an investment Budget to deal with the problems of training in industry, a Budget that would pave the way for negotiations to enter the European monetary system [ERM], a Budget that would do something about the problems that industry now faces, with investment flat and falling away.

While permission from the UK parliament maybe assured, Cameron also requires unanimity within the European Council as this Parliamentary document makes clear in its conclusions; “…any Treaty revision by means of simplified procedures, and any changes to decision procedures by means of passerelles, will be subject to veto by the Government in the European Council or Council of Ministers.”

Thus initially Cameron has to have the approval of the other 27 member states, via the European Council and then via their own respective individual parliaments as well. Here we can probably expect likely objections to Cameron’s proposal to limit immigration to come from countries such as Poland or Romania both of which have a veto (a proper one unlike a phantom one).

Another difficulty for Cameron is, and one that has always been present, if the UK requests too much then it leads to other countries demanding concessions as well. And has always been the way through the horse trading (and consensus) which typifies EU politics the UK will give up more than it achieves.

So it is more than likely that Cameron’s package will be whittled down to non committal “declarations”, “protocols” and “technicalities”. All accompanied by theatre, marching bands and cheerleaders…but no substance. Wilson’s “New Zealand butter” writ large. All helpfully promoted by our europhile media.

Encouragingly, and somewhat revealingly, while Cameron acknowledged Norway was a part of the single market he did not specifically mention during his speech that it was “governed by fax” which he has been prone to do in the past. This is possibly a new development. And so we wonder if Witterings from Witney’s meeting with Cameron in August on this and other matters (coupled with Owen Paterson’s recent speech) had a far more reaching resonance than we might have fully appreciated. Certainly Cameron has not used the phrase since. Instead he noted:

Those who argue that Norway or Switzerland offer a better model for Britain ignore one crucial fact: they have each had to sign up to the principle of freedom of movement in order to access the single market and both countries actually have far higher per capita immigration than the UK.

Which seems to suggest the Prime Minister knows full well (or has been informed by one of his constituents) that we can have single market access without being members of the EU, thus removing ourselves from the political union baggage which he claims he wants to do. It appears that we are beginning to establish the Norway option within the public debate.

Rather incoherently he then argues that EEA membership is not an acceptable option because it has to sign up to the principle of freedom of movement, but at the same time argues that within the EU and the single market he can negotiate restrictions. A claim that becomes even more absurd when the EEA agreement, under Articles 112-3, allows greater scope to place restrictions on immigration.

And further danger emerges for Cameron that by narrowing his reforms down to one issue he risks alienating those who wish “further and deeper reforms” such as big business represented by the likes of the CBI or members of his own side. It’s also a tacit admission from the Prime Minister that he has somewhat painted himself into a corner – he has nowhere else to go either.

With this in mind we increasingly wonder if Cameron has simply just changed the hooks on which he has impaled himself and in this he is entirely beatable.

 

7 comments:

  1. Being that 2017 in mental terms is now ‘the near future’ it’s reasonable to theorise beyond the Referendum in the case that the contrived terms are sufficient to convince the UK electorate to endorse continued membership.

    Even by voting to remain in, the contradictions and inadequacies of the EU will remain, and the institutions and justifications behind them will continue to decay. Just by voting to stay in won’t make the EU any more coherent or workable – as far as I’m concerned, it will still fall apart in chaos. Those observers who actually know what they’re talking about will highlight that EU membership is still the ultimate resort of the politically insane and the logic to that is to continue the campaign to withdraw.

    I’m sure Cameron thinks he’s being jolly clever by evading the points at hand. After an ‘In’ result, the anti-EU campaign will therefore continue, business as usual.

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  2. Agreed…the EU isn’t finished in terms of its final destination so it is a moving target. This means that issue cannot remain settled while the EU keeps on integrating, especially when we consider the “referendum lock”.

    We can see another example with the Scottish referendum which has failed to silence the debate

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/give-us-a-new-referendum-by-2024-say-two-thirds-of-scots.25747131

     

     
     
  3. Sorry – should really declare identities under ‘Anonymous’ – Douglas Carter as previous post.

    I can’t blame the Scots for taking the opportunistic route – it was a literal insanity freelancing Gordon Brown to change the terms of the referendum half-way through voting – the people sending in a postal vote in advance of Brown’s intervention were voting in a Referendum which no longer existed on the final day. Some observers noted at the time there was no evidence his panicked reaction had any influence on the eventual outcome. Scots Nationalists are entitled to draw exactly the opposite conclusion since an intervention is made quite specifically to influence an outcome.

    I get no self-awareness from the Cameron\Brown\Murphy axis (if you take my point there) that the fault that the Nats’ campaign has not been stalled is entirely down to their own stupidity immediately in front of the finish line.

    That ought to be a lesson for the custodians of the EU Referendum – the whole thing needs to be crystal-clear well in advance of the poll itself – and changing the terms of the debate half way through the Campaign will simply guarantee they settle nothing on a permanent basis.

     

     
     
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  5. Thank you for the mention and link.

    To think that I may have ‘educated’ David Cameron, or made him change his mind – I wish I could be that famous! 🙂

    Cameron’s basic error in all this is that he forgot an old adage: when in hole stop digging.

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  6. You’ve no need to be famous if you’re the power behind the throne 🙂

    On a serious note, it’s obviously hard to quantify influential impact, but it seems to me to be more than coincidence that Cameron has refrained from specifying the “Norway fax” meme ever since.

    In addition he is clearly in league with Open Europe who have ‘tightened’ up their rhetoric on Norway particularly after a press complaint from this blog…

    My observation thus is that your meeting in August had a significant impact.

    And agreed completely on digging holes.

     

     
     
  7. On a notional academic point –

    ‘Cameron has refrained from specifying the “Norway fax” meme’

    …if he has indeed accepted that the myth that Norway has no influence, would it not be the case that any representative of a Government led by him would also need to be slapped down if they themselves continued to make that erroneous claim?

    For example, imagine if his own Deputy Prime Minister carried on using the claim – you’d think Cameron would want to bring him in for a re-briefing, wouldn’t you?

     

     
     
  8. Hi,

    I think not, Cameron has clearly lost control over the lies, distortions and misrepresentations Clegg is now using in the run up to the General Election, as he desperately fights for the life of his party which has been so conclusively trashed by his leadership and the incompetence and dishonesty of his MPs and MEPs.

    We all saw what Clegg’s legacy was in the EU election and we can expect the same whipeout in the General Election as his voters return to their natyural homes as either Tory or Labour.

    Norway’s position has been misrepresented consistently by the main parties and also by the racist claims of Ukip in relation to immigration, where not being in the EU but with the benefit of EEA membership has left Norway and for that matter Switzerland with around twice the levels of immigration that Britain has experienced, despite our Commonwealth affiliations!

    Facts and due dilligence have never been the forte of Ukip and Clegg & Farage would both seem to be willing to make any claim for publicity and self aggrandisement.

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Aspects Of Ukip Racism

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it is articles like the one below and the fact that time and time again it becomes apparent that at its very core Ukip is managed and staffed by those with racist views and aims.

We note that the period of rapid growth of membership of Ukip coincides with the collapse of the BNP and despite the claims of a ban on ex BNP members joining Ukip many have been condoned and encouraged and in the last few days a fair amount of publicity has been given to the fact that Nick Griffin who led the BNP for a number of years and was one of their first two MEPs has advocated voting for Ukip and made it clear he will be voting Ukip CLICK HERE

David Coburn one of Ukip’s present MEPs is far from the only one supporting those with racist views and many will be aware that one of Nigel Farage’s election agent was a BNP regional organiser.
A brief read of Ukip’s Immigration policy pamphlet
IMMIGRATION POLICY - EUkip 01
it shows clearly just how racist Ukip’s policies are especially when one reads some of the other published material, particularly by one of their longest serving MEPs Gerard Batten, some of whose pamphlets can clearly be shown to be likely to incite racial violence particularly on the issue of religion!
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Top Ukip aide linked to race hate groups and has BOASTED of taking part in far-right demonstrations

Arthur Thackeray, the taxpayer-funded chief of staff for the party’s Euro MP David Coburn, claims to have marched with the English and Scottish Defence Leagues

 
David Coburn
Far right: Arthur Misty Thackeray (right) has links to far-right groups

A top Ukip aide boasted of taking part in far-right demonstrations.

Arthur Thackeray, the taxpayer-funded chief of staff for the party’s Euro MP David Coburn, told of marching with the English and Scottish Defence Leagues.

The revelations will hugely embarrass UKIP leader Nigel Farage, who has ­repeatedly insisted his party is not racist.

Thackeray, 53, from Glasgow, was put on the public payroll by Mr Coburn, one of 24 Ukip candidates elected to the ­European Parliament in May this year.

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Embarrassing: Nigel Farage

 But just two years ago Thackeray boasted on Facebook about taking part in an SDL demo in Glasgow on February 25, 2012.

Months earlier he told how he joined the EDL at a protest in Blackpool on October 15, 2011, with “patriots old and new”.

He spelt out his support for the far-right groups in a post on September 3, 2011, writing: “I personally support the aims and objectives of the Defence Leagues. Ukip has no official party line on this issue.”

A day earlier, on the eve of an EDL demo in east London, he wrote: “To all London-bound patriots… stand proud and stay safe NS (no surrender).”

When another activist urged people to join EDL to stop “Muslim paedophile gangs”, Thackeray replied: “Good post.”

Birmingham Mail EDL in Walsall: Protests by the English Defence League
Backing: EDL protest

On the day of a highly contentious protest in Luton, Beds, he wrote: “Luton 05/02/11. For all the patriots, infidels, angels and belles… stand proud and stay safe… NS!”

After a 2010 Armed Forces Day event in Blackpool he wrote: “Thanx to the UKIPers, EDLers, RAFers and Infusers I met.”

He is on first-name terms with former National Front chief Patrick Harrington, who sent him an online Christmas card.

And in October 2012 he plugged a book in favour of far-right soccer thugs group Casuals United, writing: “Forget lefty media lies and be informed from inside the patriot protest movement.”

Last year Ukip leader Mr Farage suspended Leicester Parliamentary ­candidate Chris Scotton, 24, after he “liked” a Facebook page supporting EDL.

Ukip did not respond to our request for a comment last night

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Nigel Farage Confused In His Opposition To Ukip Views On Homosexuals

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 30/11/2014

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Nigel Farage condemns former Ukip deputy Monckton’s comments that gay men have ‘20,000 sexual partners’ in their ‘miserable lives’

 

Farage is the same man who defended rampantly homophobic Newark candidate Roger Helmer earlier this year, who likened gay marriage to incest

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Nigel Farage has come to the aid of Ukip’s ever-dwindling reputation for tolerance by condemning homophobic comments made by the party’s former deputy leader this week.

Lord Christopher Monckton, who is also a former Conservative advisor, claimed that AIDS was the “wages” of gay promiscuity and dismissively referred to LGBT people as “QWERTYs”.

Lord Monckton speaks at UKIP's Young Independence party Lord Monckton speaks at UKIP’s Young Independence party Writing for WorldNetDaily, he asserted that some gay men “had as many as 20,000” in their “short, miserable lives” and declared HIV a “gay disease”.

In a column for The Independent, Farage said there was “no place for men like Monckton”, the Glaswegian politician lwho eft the party in December 2013, in Ukip.

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“Now, I’m not sure where Viscount Monckton is getting his statistics, but to frame these comments as he has is both deeply offensive and fundamentally wrong,” Farage commented.

“This sort of disruptive, crass and insensitive work serves to underscore why people with views such as these, openly mocking while seeming oddly threatened  by homosexuals, should get no support from Ukippers.”

He went on to highlight the existence of an “LGBTQ in Ukip” Facebook page for gay Ukip supporters, which has notched up over 1,200 followers thus far.

He then added: “How many other parties have an MEP who describes himself as ‘spectacularly homosexual’ and a ‘great big screaming poof’? David Coburn MEP’s words – not mine!”

Farage concluded by writing that Ukip wasn’t “a place for division or malice” and pointing out that “the word ‘United’ is in our name”.He didn’t, however, mention his tireless defence of Ukip’s rampantly homophobic Newark by-election candidate Roger Helmer earlier this year.

Helmer provoked anger after he said some people find homosexuality “distasteful if not viscerally repugnant”. He has also likened same-sex marriage to incest.

Farage spoke in support of his views, saying that many people of Helmer’s generation, who grew up in a period of time in which homosexuality was illegal, would  have harboured similar opinions.

“Actually if we asked the 70s and over in this country how they felt about it, most of them still feel uncomfortable. He has said the world has moved on, he now accepts there’s been a big social change in Britain and he’s relaxed about it.”

Spinning tolerance on its head, he further told the BBC that if modern society was as accepting as it believes itself to be, it would also find a space for that of Helmner’s off-kilter assertions.

Henley-upon-Thames Ukip councillor David Silvester was, however, suspended from the party, after he blamed Britain’s extensive floods on the passage of the gay marriage bill in January.

On the subject of gay marriage himself, Farage told LBC in March: “We are opening up a very big can of worms here, with many very big risks.

“I think the Church of England is going to go through a very difficult and miserable time as it is dragged through the courts of Strasbourg. I can’t prejudge what will happen there, but possibly forced to conduct gay marriages in those churches against the will of vast majority of churchgoers.”

Asked to further explain his position on gay marriage, were Britain not part of the EU, he said: “I do not support same sex marriages all the while we’re under the auspices of the European court of human rights.”

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Are #Ukip & Their #Met Chums Closer To Prison Now?

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it does look as if members of Ukip leadership team and what seem all too clearly to be corrupt police officers working for them are inexorably moving closer to exposure and resolution of their crimes in the courts.

The gravity of their position is increasingly irrevocable as Boris Johnson has managed to confirm. Here is the answer to one of the two questions on the subject of Jasna Badzak, which he was asked last week!

The answer is without doubt damning for the corrupt police! Proof of the corruption will in my opinion lead to the resignation of head of the Met. Hogan-Hunt and probable prison for the officers concerned and as the members of Ukip heirarchy are in elected office & public servants their fate can hardly be less than prison, if justice is to be seen to be done:

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The following comments include allusion to various evidence and clear reference to facts on Twitter under the #tags #Justice4Jasna & #JusticeForJasna – there are of course many many more comments on the subject, each more or less informative and damning to the corrupt police as they seem to be in their co-operation with the abusive Ukip officials!

1. Irie and 2 others follow
Women Defy UKIP ‏@WomenDefyUKIP 15m15 minutes ago
@MarkLewisLawyer has taken on #Justice4Jasna

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• Irie and 2 others follow
Women Defy UKIP ‏@WomenDefyUKIP 32m32 minutes ago
Now #Justice4Jasna can get moving with @MarkLewisLawyer onboard
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• Jasna Badzak and 1 other follow
Kathrina Visitkarte ‏@Visitkarte 40m40 minutes ago
Mark Lewis is a brilliant lawyer, fighting for #Justice4Jasna fighting against #UKIP
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Mouth of Sauron ‏@simon_lindsell 42m42 minutes ago
#Justice4Jasna Tick tock, #Ukip
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Sam hussain ‏@Samsoprano30 1h1 hour ago Middlesbrough, North East
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#Justice4Jasna get it trending today, SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists 2h2 hours ago
• Just heard that the brilliant @MarkLewislawyer has joined the fight for #Justice4Jasna. #UKIP #UKIPCorruption
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Lee Jasper ‏@LeeJasper 2h2 hours ago
A big thank you to @MarkLewislawyer a committed lawyer fighting for #Justice4Jasna @JasnaBadzak
Trial date Wed 24/11 9.30 West Ldn Mags
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Lee Jasper ‏@LeeJasper 2h2 hours ago
• The political trial of @JasnaBadzak @UKIP critic West London Mag’s Court Tollgarth Rd 9.30 Wed 26th Nov #Justice4Jasna RT I wouldn’t miss it
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Southend Marxist ‏@p1966k 3h3 hours ago
Come on: Please RT: Stop #UKIP criminal behaviour. Please support @MarkLewislawyer who is a brilliant lawyer fighting for #Justice4Jasna
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Harry Stephenson ‏@HS_feed 3h3 hours ago
Would like to thank @MarkLewisLawyer for helping @JasnaBadzak with her case. #Justice4Jasna
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Chemical Punnage ‏@Uncleskinny 4h4 hours ago
I hope #UKIP take note that @MarkLewisLawyer is fighting for @JasnaBadzak. #Justice4Jasna
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Chemical Punnage ‏@Uncleskinny 4h4 hours ago
Brilliant to hear that the superb @MarkLewisLawyer is fighting for @JasnaBadzak . Good luck to both. #Justice4Jasna
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Irie ‏@Dubdanu 6h6 hours ago
@TamoorT alleged corruption in ukip and @metpoliceuk >>http://unfashionista.com/2014/11/05/why-was-jasna-badzak-arrested-for-rting-a-critical-blog-about-ukip/ … #Justice4Jasna RT. In court tomorrow!
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Harry Stephenson ‏@HS_feed 9h9 hours ago
Can you really be arrested for RT blogs? Can you be silenced for being a critic of a political party? http://youtu.be/Yy6t1cYuWfg #Justice4Jasna
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Harry Stephenson ‏@HS_feed 9h9 hours ago
Jasna Badzak at West London Mag’s Court Tollgarth Rd Wednesday 9.30am for RTing a blog by MET Police #Justice4Jasna http://youtu.be/Yy6t1cYuWfg
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Women Defy UKIP ‏@WomenDefyUKIP Nov 24
The day after tomorrow @JasnaBadzak is in court for RT’ing a blog by @LeeJasper #Justice4Jasna http://leejasper.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/ukip-metropolitan-police-service-and.html?m=1
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Irie ‏@Dubdanu Nov 24
@LouiseMensch Have you an update on this please?http://unfashionista.com/2014/11/05/why-was-jasna-badzak-arrested-for-rting-a-critical-blog-about-ukip/ … @LeeJasper @JasnaBadzak @WomenDefyUKIP #Justice4Jasna
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Bob From Brockley ‏@bobfrombrockley Nov 23
Am only just catching up with this appalling story of #UKIP/cop collusion to crush a whistleblower http://unfashionista.com/2014/11/05/why-was-jasna-badzak-arrested-for-rting-a-critical-blog-about-ukip/ … #Justice4Jasna
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NorseFired ‏@NorseFired Nov 21
A few reasons why a UKIP govt is a terrifying thought > http://unfashionista.com/2014/11/05/why-was-jasna-badzak-arrested-for-rting-a-critical-blog-about-ukip/https://twitter.com/NorseFired/status/529425022700380160 … #Justice4Jasna
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Louise Mensch ‏@LouiseMensch Nov 19 Manhattan, NY
This will be a bit of a problem for @MetPolice in #Justice4Jasna case https://twitter.com/DannyShawBBC/status/534666376443875328
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Mortimer Nutleg™ ‏@martasaurus_rex Nov 17
Joshua Bonehill’s latest wibble on the bale is mindnumbingly gobsmacking in its ignorance, malice & utter lack of insight. #JusticeforJasna
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@LouiseMensch The non existent James Galvin questioned a suspect earlier this year. http://dailym.ai/1uhenAS via @MailOnline #JusticeForJasna
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John O’Connell ‏@jdpoc Nov 15
Hearing Jasna Badzac, ex-#UKIP, harassed by ‘Police’ again tonight. On @GerardBattenMEP orders? Or another UKIP official? #JusticeForJasna
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Morrigan ‏@Morrigan_Roars Nov 11
FFS! Leave Jasna & her child alone you vile cowards!! #JusticeForJasna
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Morrigan ‏@Morrigan_Roars Nov 10
If you’re not outraged, you’re NOT paying attention! #JusticeForJasna

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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 9
Gerard Batten on #WMHour saying he wants to be tough on crime. Good. #PervertingCourseOfJustice #JusticeForJasna
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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 7
Tweet of the day by @RutlandNed, and it’s not even 10 AM yet. https://twitter.com/RutlandNed/status/530640423497523201 … #JusticeForJasna
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Exposing UKIP ‏@Exposing_UKIP Nov 6
#BBCQT : Whose asking the question of #UKIP and @metpoliceuk illegal intimidation of UKIP Critics ? #JusticeForJasna
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John O’Connell ‏@jdpoc Nov 6
#BBCQT : Whose asking the question of #UKIP and @metpoliceuk illegal intimidation of UKIP Critics ? #JusticeForJasna
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RT @Exposing_UKIP: #BBCQT in 5 minutes. Whose asking the question of #UKIP and @metpoliceuk intimidation ? #JusticeForJasna Please RT
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Exposing UKIP ‏@Exposing_UKIP Nov 6
#BBCQT in 5 minutes. Whose asking the question of #UKIP and @metpoliceuk intimidation ? #JusticeForJasna
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Women Defy UKIP ‏@WomenDefyUKIP Nov 6
When is Batten going to call off his henchmen? http://unfashionista.com/2014/11/05/why-was-jasna-badzak-arrested-for-rting-a-critical-blog-about-ukip/ … #JusticeForJasna
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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 6
Oh, and @JasnaBadzak, it was great to speak to you, and glad to hear that my tweets make you smile! 🙂 Get well soon. #JusticeForJasna
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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 6
Just had a phone chat with @JasnaBadzak, and @LouiseMensch is correct – there is much more to come. #JusticeForJasna
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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 6
@LouiseMensch I don’t agree with you on much, Louise, but would like to heartily thank you for publicising Jasna’s story. #JusticeForJasna
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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 6
@Exposing_UKIP Surely not! That sounds like an awfully fascist thing to do. #JusticeForJasna
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Exposing UKIP ‏@Exposing_UKIP Nov 6
RT @DevilLucifer29: “What more lies.” > Unlike most #UKIP rubbish, our info is sourced and documented. #JusticeForJasna
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John O’Connell ‏@jdpoc Nov 6
No #UKIP on #BBCQT tonight ? Looks like we’ll have to raise the issue of #UKIP and @metpoliceuk links ourselves, then. #JusticeForJasna
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Issy Respect Party ‏@IsyRespectParty Nov 5
http://leejasper.blogspot.co.uk/ #JusticeForJasna I’m ex Ukip and I know how they work, I here where Jasna is coming from. @LeeJasper @Exposing_UKIP
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>GP – RN: EU exit: the Paterson speech

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/11/2014

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Monday 24 November 2014

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The actual speech text is here, delivered at 11am this moning. It is reviewed in The Times, in the Telegraph, the BBC, the New Statesman and elsewhere (140 reports and counting).

The essence of speech is that, instead of pussy-footing around, Cameron should cut to the chase and commit to invoking Article 50 the moment a Conservative government takes office after the election. With an electoral mandate, there is no need for a referendum.

Negotiations on a exit settlement should then proceed, using the “Norway option” as the base, involving joining EFTA and adopting the EEA agreement. Additionally, the entire EU body of law should be repatriated, to ensure legislative continuity, allowing for selective repeal and amendment as appropriate and necessary.

The loss of influence in leaving the EU is more than made up for by the restoration of our standing in international organisations such as Codex, UNECE, OECD, and many others, where we would be negotiating in our own right, determining standards which, under WTO rules, the EU is obliged to adopt.

In this, there would be no “fax democracy” as such. We would be sending laws down to Brussels – not the other way around.

The issue of “freedom of movement” is dealt with by dropping out of the ECHR and the EU treaties, so that we would only be obliged to grant freedom to workers, and not their dependents unless we chose to do so – plus restoring the ability to deport illegal immigrants.

Also, there would be continued measures to address “push” and “pull” factors, making the UK unattractive for unskilled migrants seeking low-paid work

However, Paterson reminds us that it took 40 years to progress to this stage of integration and we are not going to resolve all the issues in one stage. For the longer term, therefore, he argues that we would need to progress from the EEA to ensure a genuine Europe-wide Single Market, working on a truly intergovernmental basis.

One possible alternative, he suggests, is to strengthen the regional UNECE, so that it can administer the Single Market as an economic project rather than a political construct. Using that body, we would be able to negotiating directly across the board, cutting out the EU as the middle man, and substantially enhance the transparency of the system.

With a more durable European solution in place, we would be better able to promote our economic interests and we would also be able to take a lead in revitalising international trade. Free from the EU, says Paterson, we would have real influence on shaping the global regulatory models where true power lies.

The UK would have a key role in building transparency with enormous benefits to tackling organised crime, such as human trafficking, addressing issues of migration constructively.

In conclusion, Paterson adds, the Eurozone has already embarked upon a path that we can never follow. We are simply recognising that reality. We must either be fully committed to “Le Projet” or we must build an entirely new relationship.

The British people must be allowed to make that decision. Article 50 is the best method of making this happen. By this means we would forge ahead and resume our rightful place as a global leader. With our own independent status, working closely with our many allies, we would massively increase our influence.

As Churchill said, “We have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe but not of it. We are linked but not comprised. We are interested and associated but not absorbed”. He was right then and he is right now. Get this message across and the UK has a spectacular future as a flourishing world power.

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>GP – RN: Rochester: of causes and effects

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/11/2014

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>GP – RN: Rochester: of causes and effects

“The practice of sport is a human right!. Every individual must have the possibility of practicing sport, without discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit, which requires mutual understanding with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play.” –Olympic Charter
There are times when it is reasonable to believe ‘Sport’ is not so much a right but an obligation by diktat!
However boring you may find sport: there are many who derive great vicarious pleasure from watching it – Particularly Women’s Beach Volleyball & Women’s Gymnastics; some even enjoy being a part of a baying mob at football games!

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A weary few days and some miracle-working by North Jr and friends has got us back online (with the forum and other tweaks to follow when we can), after a series of massive DDOS attacks. So focussed and relentless were the attacks that we conclude that they were directed specifically at EUReferendum, with a view to taking us out of circulation.

Against that and the added stress of extremely arduous day jobbing, the election of a second-rate politician seemed very minor. And, in the grander scheme of things, it was indeed a minor event. In six months, it will be distant memory, as indeed will Reckless the Repatriater, who will have faded into the obscurity he justly deserves.

Of current interest, though, is the fallout, which has the Daily Mail reporting that Conservative MPs are calling for David Cameron to toughen his stance on the EU.

The newspaper is asserting that the way to “take the legs from under Farage” is for the prime minister to campaign for an “out” vote. That is an obvious line to take except that it suffers the obvious flaw. Those unwilling to believe Mr Cameron’s promise for a referendum are just as likely to disbelieve any commitment to fight against EU membership.

What might deal a death blow to Farage’s ambitions, however, is the double whammy of explaining to the voting public that his party has no idea of how to manage our departure from the EU (and no capability in that respect) while simultaneously demonstrating that a workable plan does exist and can be implemented quickly and easily, to the very great advantage of the UK.

This, in my view, is what is needed to transform the debate. Having long accepted the need to leave the EU – for any number of reasons – I no longer wish to endure the tedium of the continuous tales of woe on how badly we are treated by the Barons of Brussels.

Rather, I am in the market for some “sunlit uplands”, the very thing Mr Farage and his dysfunctional acolytes have no means of bringing us. His shambolic party is set to deliver the only thing of which Ukip is capable –  its own brand of discordant negativity. It will never achieve anything but chaos and disruption.

In order to defeat Ukip, what the Conservatives need to realise is you don’t fight a negative with a negative. The only thing that cancels out a negative is a positive. All Farage’s party can do is tell us how bad it is inside the EU. The Conservatives need to tell us how good it is on the outside.

That, in fact, is quite difficult to do. Any fool can tell us that we need to leave – very few people can come of with a credible, structured plan for making it happen. And as this is a task quite beyond the capabilities of Ukip, and neither Labour nor the Lib-Dems have any intentions of filling the void, this leaves the field wide open to the Conservatives.

This is why the next few days and weeks are going to be increasingly interesting. Gradually, there is a realisation emerging that the need to get out of the EU is only a tiny part of the equation – the easy bit that even the febrile minds of Ukip supporters can grasp. It is how we get out that matters more. Unless a safe exit can be assured, it is never going to happen.

Once it is evident that the feat can be done, though, it is much more likely that it will then happen. Thus, the realisation that we need an exit plan may be one of the most enduring effects of this period. Knowledgeable commentators will then see the pressure to withdraw as a child of the time. Others will try to link unrelated events, and argue cause and effect.

What we are seeing, though, are effects with common causes. Some have taken the cul-de-sac towards Ukip while the more enlightened are looking for the way to the sunlit uplands. The reasons for those actions are deep-rooted and do not lie in recent events. But the outcome is not to be denied – it was going to happen sooner of later. And even if later, that is better than not at all.

Richard North
22/11/2014

I am inclined to totally agree with this post of Richard’s which concurs with all that I have learned over many years and in very many countries around the world – any fool can knock the status quo and find support amongst the struggling lower middle classes (used to be working class until the invention of Mr. Biro replaced the pick and the shovel of yester year for many!), and also the support of the failed amongst the working classes (those not gainfully employed or who have outbred their capacity for self support!).

 

Indeed Nigel Farage’s clique and its claque have tapped into this very successfully as did Alex Salmond in Scotland, Francisco Franco in Spain, Adolf Hitler in Germany and many others in their respective times and countries.

You will note all made an issue of simplistic denigration of the existing Governance, highlighted problems and built on them without workable remedies and found a sector of the community to blame be that the Jews in Nazi Germany, the bankers for the Labour party and EU or immigrants for Farage’s ill informed supporters.

NONE of the examples I have quoted had any exampes of HOW to move forward being far too rooted in destructive nihilism as they tried to tear down structures that showed how small was their intellectual structure and vision rather than building an intellectual power base that rose above the present situation, showing why the alternative they offered was better and more importantly how to achieve their promised ‘Nirvana’.

Allthough it seems Richard North feels constrained by modesty (not too typical of him 😉 – I note he fails to put forward his methodology for obtaining those sunny uplands) may I therefore suggest all who read this will find a detailed study of >FleXcit< of great value – you will find a link to >FleXcit< in the right sidebar of this web site.

I regret it would seem that in Britain The Tories, divorced as they would seem to be from either the ethics or the patriotism they formwerly represented, are the only party that shows ANY possibility of moving forward all be it haltingly as they recognise increasingly before a referendum AS PROMISE, unlike relative to the New EU Constitution which morphed into the name change to The Lisbon Treaty!

As I started to say – as they start to realise that the EU Treaties are now tablets of stone that can not be viably improved due to the requirement for unanimity of opinion amongst approaching 30 very different regions (formerly Nation States) who are both its vassals and its members! SDome seeking to reduce the subsidies they fund the scam with whilst the majority seek to survive on the malign handouts generated by those self same subsidies.

The EU is like a family with over 20 children where regardless of the needs and incomes of the parents and few viable working members  has surrende3red control of how much pocket money the majority of the least responsible children get is defined by those very children that would benefit – all too like the Labour Party economic illiteracy we saw in the 13 unlucky years of their catastrophic rule, where the Governance was controlled by a collection of criminal scoundrels seeking their own enrichment and aggrandisement all be it by bankrupting the country and undeniable war crimes and crimes against humanity!

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FARAGE & BADZAK, Jasna 01

The strange case of Jasna Badzak, Lee Jasper, Louise Mensch, UKIP and possible police corruption.

Jasna Badzak is a former UKIP press officer. She’s the last person who you’d expect would have anti-facist campaigners, MP’s, former colleagues of Ken Livingstone and people from the left and right coming out in defence of her.

Best to start at the beginning with Lee Jasper and this is from his blog explaining how he and Badzak first met.

Jasna Badzak is a former press officer for UKIP. She started work for Nigel Farage and Gerard Batten MEP in November 2010 and around a year ago; she was convicted of defrauding UKIP of some two thousand five hundred pounds in October 2013.  Around a year ago Jasna rang me seeking support for what she claimed, was a miscarriage of justice. I was intrigued and decided to meet Jasna.

 

It’s best to read Jasper’s first hand account of what he and Badzak were discussing as it’s quite complex, but the short version is that Badzak was convicted of fraud in October 2013 which was quite heavily covered in the right wing press. Badzak has claimed this was a miscarriage of justice which is where she contacts Jasper in order to get someone to hear her story which is she is the subject of a possible criminal conspiracy by members of the Metropolitan Police (who may have links to UKIP, the BNP and the EDL) and Gerard Batten, a UKIP MEP.

It’s fairly outlandish but I can understand why Badzak went to Jasper, than say, the likes of The Sun, as if she could get a left wing campaigner for equality to believe her, then she’d have an unlikely ally in taking on what at first seems like a fairly simple case of fraud, but when delved into deeper is much, much more worrying and affects freedom of speech for all of us.

If however she’s been framed because she was repulsed by Gerard Battens UKIPs Charter for Muslim Understanding, Dismantling Multiculturalism and that as claimed, she’s being targeted by officers in the Met with links to UKIP/EDL then that’s incredibly worrying. The allegations if the blog by Lee Jasper are extraordinary but this is only the start of it as the case has now been taken up by of all people, Louise Mensch who picked it up after Badzak was arrested for ReTweeting the Lee Jasper blog.

At this point it’s essential to read this blog from Mensch and take the implications of it in entirely. If this is true then not only has the Met lied to the Prime Minister and the Mayor of London, but is suppressing critics of UKIP and is acting on behalf of MEP’s to ensure that Badzak is silenced, and in terms of her fraud conviction, wrongfully have her convicted. Sadly, due to the fact that Badzak is a cardiac patient and is undergoing astonishing amounts of stress, she’s been left paralysed from the waist down thanks to this.

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What I find astonishing is that Badzak and her supporters (which I fully admit to being one of) aren’t being nicked for posting the Lee Jasper blog, or harassed by police because of posting the Mensch blog. It’s as far as I know, it’s just the woman who may have proof that would show what UKIP are which is very clearly a party of the far right using corrupt police officers to enforce what they want which is suppressing debate.

I find it extraordinary that journalists who monitor Louise Mensch’s Twitter feed for every single fuck up (and I’ve made my opinion on Mensch clear in the past) haven’t picked up what she’s been Tweeting about, especially as it relates to UKIP and the media love stories about UKIP. This however could be one which has massive implications about the party, who it has connections with on the far right and the police and how they’re conducting themselves. Either it’s a case where journalists aren’t interested (which would be astonishing) or there’s something else holding them back from even mentioning this story. Whatever the reason I find it suspicious there’s nothing in the press.

This is a constantly updating story so I suggesting following Jasna Badzak and Louise Mensch on Twitter to see where this goes because if true, then some Met Officers and a UKIP MEP should be the one feeling the stress, not Jadna Badzak.

UPDATE 9th November

Mensch has updated her blog today which can be read here but essentially she has screenshots which show that one of the Met Officers, a James Galvin, supports UKIP on his Facebook page which isn’t enough to show he’s in the pocket of UKIP MEP’s, but it’s certainly enough to show a probably conflict of interest that at the very least should result in a public inquiry.

Also, I’ve now had it made clear to me that the story was offered to Channel 4 News and  other media organisations but nobody bothered to touch it. Considering that an effigy of Alex Salmond being burned made headline news while this massive miscarriage of justice has been left to flounder online I can only think that there’s people who don’t want to dig into something which frankly, could well bring UKIP down as well as further expose the Met for being a corrupt force open to abuse by its officers.

I need to also bring to light an anonymous comment left on this blog and highlight the implications made in it.

The implications are as follows: UKIP seems to have infiltrated the police. Further still, specialist officers in the financial crimes, serious crime and anti-terror sections have been involved in framing Jasna Badzak. There are many others who claim to be harassed by these specialist and elite police units including hounding by the Air Support Unit and CID from the Homicide and Major Crimes directorate. Many of these individuals are professional people who have not been involved in any criminal activities what so ever. They are in the construction industry, unionists or simply are targeted over personal matters as with Ian Puddick.

http://www.theduckshoot.com/ian-puddick-and-police-corruption-debated-in-the-uk-parliament/

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ad1_1407946597&comments=1

 

The implication is that the Met are targeting people, including a number of activists, who they see as a ‘threat’ to whatever they’re trying to protect.Then I remembered this blog I stuck up back in May which mentions how a Green Party member by the name of Michael Abberton had a knock on the door for posting this image on his social media.

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In that case it was Cambridgeshire police but as much as I don’t like conspiracy theories or the nutters they attract, there’s something about all of what’s happening with UKIP and the police that screams of a genuine attempt to suppress debate and of course, the fact the party is now very firmly a far right party who clearly have authoritarian undertones.

In the case of Badzak, it seems that as Louise Mensch has said (and I find it astonishing I agree with her) that all of James Galvin’s convictions are unsafe, and that he should also be investigated for corruption which should include his links to UKIP and the far right. If the police have people working within it essentially working for the far right (which I include UKIP as firmly being of the far right) then it’s down to the Fourth Estate to pull their head out their arses and expose this because if it’s dismissed, or forgotten about there’s going to be irreparable damage to the joke that is democracy within the UK.

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For more info. on this apparent abuse of public office by Gerard Batten and collusion with corrupt police officers and corrupted Judiciary CLICK HERE and HERE to start with.
We published our doubts about this case with extensive details at the time of Jasna Badzak’s original trial.
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We also published details of Ukip’s agents corrupt efforts to silence/bankrupt me by claiming over £100,000 for using a well circulated Ukip publicity photo of Nigel Farage standing in a large puddle at a building site which they tried to pass of as a fishing photo:
FARAGE, Nigel awash 01 publicity pic co CROUCHERLooks all too like a display of the degree of corruption in Ukip.
The Courts found in my favour and ordered Ukip’s agent to pay my costs. To date Ukip have shown nothing but contempt for British justice defaulting on payment of around £13,500 + years of interest!
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It was also myself that exposed the embezzeling of public funds by Tom Wise on my web site. We now know that Tom Wise assisted Nigel Farage by giving him £Thousands, which he KNEW was part of the fraudellently obtained money – was this why Farage NEVER threw Tom Wise out of Ukip?
It was my blog and postings on the corrupt Anthony Butcher’s forum which repeatedly published details of Tom Wise and Ukip’s corruption that eventually ensured Wise was sentenced to 2 years in jail!
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It has been this blog that has publicly kept alive the desire for open transparency over the Ukip corrupt Ashford scam and exposed the dishonesty and corrupting of Ukip internal elections for Farage by Douglas Denny.
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It was this blog that exposed the corruption of Ukip MEP Derek Clark which eventually led to him having to refund somewhere between £30 & 100,000 of tax payers money he had missapropriated. It is understood the only reason he was never prosecuted was bnecause of his advanced years!
HOLDSWORTH, Petrina 01It was also my blogs which brought you the lies and deceit of Roger Knappman and the obscenities of Nattrass and corrupt bullying by others that led to the resignation of the tyhen chairman of Ukip Petrina Holdsworth.
It was this blog which first published the fact that Nigel Farage had lied on media to get elected and had broken his promise by employing his wife doing very little for £30Kpa.
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It was this blog that published the fact that Nigel Farage had set up a tax dodging Isle of Man bank account and also gave details of his undeclared income relative to the Electoral Commission some £200,000 in donations from the owners of his constituency office.
It was also my blog which published that the £11,000 unlawfully claimed from the EU and allegedly paid to The Metric Martyrs vanished on route, as they never received a penny of it from Ukip.
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There was also the report of the Ukip Returning Officer in their candidate selection process a Barrister and former Tory MP, which exposed the corruption of the process and the dishonesty of a fellow former Tory MP’s involvement in the scam, which were exposed on my blog CLICK HERE
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ALL of these items appeared on this blog and others I control long before they were ever made public in the Legacy Media.
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Do not forget it was this blog that published the lies of Annabelle Fuller and her theft of confidential data pertaining to John West which she published on You Tube and details of the collusion with Nigel Farage4 to stay on his payroll which has been achieved to date regardless of the pretence and subterfuge Nigel Farage has been involved in to achieve it.
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You may recall Ukip’s then chairman John Wittaker MEP who resigned in disgust over Nigel Farage’s corrupt behaviour!
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It was also this blog which published the fact that Annabelle Fuller had stolen Andrew Bridgen’s Blackberry phone device, House of Commons Pass and correspondence whilst at his flat in the early hours with his political advisor – we also published tyhe fact that she had twice phoned Nigel Farage from the flat at the time!
Despite these facts being reported to the police at the time it would seem there was a cover up of Ukip’s invbolvement in Annabelle Fuller’s criminality due to repeated embarrassment of the police eventually
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(too late to save Andrew Bridgen’s marriage) instigated an enquiry only about a month ago see CLICK HERE and then ask yourself just how long it takes the police to investigate the theft of a Blackberry, a House of Commons Pass and correspondence, which not only has been admitted by the thief but since it was theft from an MP was clearly a Security Issue
Clearly it is legitimate to ask ‘Are the police still acting to cover up the crimes for Ukip whilst seemingly fabricating cases for Ukip’?.
It would seem Ukip has privileged links with various Police Officers and have corrupted the judicial system on more than one occasion. Last week we noted that Police Officers were destroying evidence which may well have proved damaging to their various cases on behalf of Ukip, Gerard Batten and possibly others.
The similarities involved in these cases, including the involvement of Simon Orme from the CPS and various police officers named on this blog site with what seems to be a ‘fit up’ case being brought against the then Ukip MEP Nikki Sinclaire,
who fell out with Ukip over their racist, anti homosexual, anti Jewish low life associates in the EFD Group.
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Clearly the claimed case against Nikki Sinclaire which so closely follows the case brought against Ukip as to obviously be unsound – not least in the fact that it has taken over 2 years of police harrassment and public villification of Nikki Sinclaire to even bring this febrile stack of nonsense to Court – clearly costing her the possibility of re-election and together with
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the lies of the utterly corrupt extremist Zionist racist Lord Pearson of Rannock’s lies about her has made her position untenable.
A clear case of justice delayed is justice denied.
Like so much else related to the dealings of the Ukip leadership clique aided by their nere do well claque this is deeply unreliable and would seem to be a very clear case of corruption of justice in collusion with other public servants.
I believe that there is more than enough evidence in the public domain and readily available to call for an enquiry into the ethics of Ukip and consider as unsound various, if not all cases, involving those officers who have seemingly colluded with Ukip. If they have been willing to ‘sit on’ some cases, ‘cover-up’ others and pursue seemingly fabricated cases then they are clearly unfit and ALL their work must be considered suspect.
An investigation of the ‘establishment’ by the ‘establishment’ is clearly no more fit for purpose than Ukip as representatives of British values nor the Police of Police corruption!
Ukip has made much of being different from other politicians and parties and it seems they surely are – they would seem to have industrialised corruption. Perhaps it is time for a complete change in the style of British politics so let us change by having an independent and trustworthy enquiry – unlike such stitch ups as Chilcott and Leverson’s various stunningly inept reports (deliberate?) – or the mealie mouthed efforts to sweep the various paedophile reports back under the carpet!
It is time for A Royal Commission on Police, Policing and the Justice System which so readily abuses its position of trust with utilising false laws just ‘Because they can’.
Also we should strive to restructure our system of Governance along the lines of ‘The Harrogate Agenda‘ once we have implemented ‘FleXcit‘ to Leave_The_EU, minded of ‘The House of Commons document‘.
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