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with the defection to being an Independent MP it can clearly be shown that Ukip has lost its most valuable asset as it now has no voice at Westminster!

Further – can you think of a single solitary individual of stature or credibility, competence or integrity – they not only lack a leader of any credible standing, Paul Nuttall having been shown to be a liar, a fantasist who is both integrity and charisma bereft and like his predecessor Nigel Farage Paul Nuttall has yet again been resoundingly rejected for a role in Domestic Politics!

The manner in which Douglas Carswell joined the party was, as I explained at the time CLICK HERE, a very questionable process! It was widely believed at the time of Carswell’s defection from the Tories that the defection had much more to do with a temper tantrum, having failed, despite seeing himself to be very important, to be allocated a room in the main hotel, for the Tory conference.

Being cast into the wilderness of a mere annex was thought to be the reason he organised a rapid dinner date with Stuart Wheeler the professional gambler who made his money spread betting and subsequently lost much of it due to commercial ineptitude and poor investments, you will recall that at the time Wheeler was another defector from the Tories and Ukip’s only backer of any note, though he didn’t trust Ukip or its Farage manipulated NEC, with any of his money, insisting that as their backer he must also be in control of their finances as their Financial Director!

It is understood that at the dinner Wheeler offered Carswell the leadership of Ukip, conveniently overlooking the fact that Nigel Farage was leader. Wheeler and Carswell were of course not the only ones who realised that Nigel Farage, although seen as a great asset to the Leave-The-EU cause by his devotees he alienated far more people than he could consider supporters and with the low grade of appointees he permitted around him his leadership of the Leave-The-EU movement and the BreXit cause would do infinitely more harm than good.

Ego won the day and Carswell, who was on the verge of leaving the Tories, having had his ego severely bruised by being bannished to the annex succumbed to Wheeler’s massaging of his ego by promising him the leadership which was in fact not in Wheeler’s gift!

That Carswell has put the spin on his joining that claims he joined Ukip to make the party more electable than with Nigel Farage orchestrating the band is a proof of the value of hindsight:

though it is reasonable to point out that Douglas Carswell did not just add a new string to Farage’s bow but an entirely new instrument – plausibility and electability.

You will note from Douglas Carswell’s statement/appologia that he makes some very valid points but there is more than a hint, in his self justification, that he has jumped before he was pushed and reading the vitriolic comments of Ukip’s now ex backer, who has left the party, Arron Banks and the needless vindictiveness of Nigel Farage, who is no longer leader of Ukip on the domestic front, Carswell was clearly right to leave before it became apparent he was dumped – in the true flavour of democratic behaviour that is well founded in EU style politics, where Ukip has honed its skills of treachery and back stabbing.

Ukip has always been a party of dubious morality and a tendency to fight and squabble like ferrets in a sack!

You will note from the other articles that I have posted from Douglas Carswell’s web site that he has voiced a number of sound concepts put forward in a reasoned and electable manner that is very out of keeping with the self aggrandising and sneering denigration style of most Ukip web sites, I trust you find this insight of the practices of Ukip and its style of some help in your decision making for the future as it becomes ever more obvious that Ukip’s role is now over.

Clearly Ukip has no role in the future BreXit negotiations as it is clear from their efforts and comments to date that they have little or no understanding of tyhe complexities of international law, the WTO, CODEX, WHO, UN, OPEC and the like. Ukip can not even seem to understand, let alone agree, as to whether they seek the votes of the left wing so called socialists, the center left of the hopelessly lost Libdems or the right of center Tory and capatalist supporters of free trade and international competition.

Further: Ukip would seem to be bereft of a funding policy with Nigel Farage in control of the EFDD Group funding the unlikely scenario of a Ukip MEP putting his hand in his pocket for the benefit of the party and no clear backer of stature it would seem t6hey are likely to be forced to return to the ‘caroussel’ methodology as they lurch along, as they did prior to Stuart Wheeler’s intervention and Arron Banks’ control.

At this moment I see little hope for Ukip, which is on the verge of insolvency, if not bankruptcy, near leaderless, in any real terms, when you consider the implausibility of Paul Nuttall’s claims and his recent abject failure when presented to the public in a by election on the most winnable occasion in Ukip’s entire history!

Consider Douglas Carswell’s statement and other suggestions and then consider which of Ukip’s MEPs have ever been able to string together as plausible or electable a role particularly since Nikki Sinclaire left the party to set up the petition which forced the debate in the House of Commons that gave rise to the promise of a Referendum in tyhe Tory Manifesto that led to the demise of the LibDems and fractured sqabbling in what was the Labour Party, which is so clearly torn in half and likely to be a political irrelevance organising fatuous anti democratic marches and counter productive demonstrations for at least a decade – particularly if it tries to remain as one party!

Job done – thank UKIP!

It has been an extraordinary achievement. UKIP, my party, which was founded in 1993 in order to get Britain out of the European Union, has now achieved what we were established to do.

On Wednesday, the Prime Minister is going to trigger Article 50, beginning the formal process of withdrawing our country from the EU. By April 2019, Britain will no longer be a member of the EU. After twenty-four years, we have done it. Brexit is in good hands.

UKIP might not have managed to win many seats in Parliament, but in a way we are the most successful political party in Britain ever. We have achieved what we were established to do – and in doing so we have changed the course of our country’s history for the better. Make no mistake; we would not be leaving the EU if it was not for UKIP – and for those remarkable people who founded, supported and sustained our party over that period.

Our party has prevailed thanks to the heroic efforts of UKIP party members and supporters. You ensured we got a referendum. With your street stalls and leafleting, you helped Vote Leave win the referendum. You should all be given medals for what you helped make happen – and face the future with optimism.

Like many of you, I switched to UKIP because I desperately wanted us to leave the EU. Now we can be certain that that is going to happen, I have decided that I will be leaving UKIP.

I will not be switching parties, nor crossing the floor to the Conservatives, so do not need to call a by election, as I did when switching from the Conservatives to UKIP. I will simply be the Member of Parliament for Clacton, sitting as an independent.

I will leave UKIP amicably, cheerfully and in the knowledge that we won.

At the hundreds of meetings and action days I have attended as a UKIP activist across the country since I joined in August 2014, I have met some truly remarkable people. You are heroes! Thank you and well done. I wish you all well.

When first elected to represent Clacton in 2005, I promised to do all I could to help ensure that Britain left the EU. To the consternation of my then party whips (some of who, I’m delighted to see, are now ministers helping make Brexit happen), I made my intentions on that front plain in my maiden speech. Job done.

I will be putting all of my effort into tackling some of the local problems affecting the NHS in our part of Essex, including GP shortages and the threat to our local Minor Injuries Unit. In that spirit, I called a Westminster Hall debate last week about the future of primary care in our part of Essex. Local comes first.

Cheer up! The days when small elites can try to arrange human social and economic affairs by grand design are coming to an end. Change is coming – Brexit is just the beginning.

24 MAR 2017
Secrecy in family courts must stop
New research on the family courts documents that, despite transparency guidance, only a tiny minority of proceedings are published. That’s deeply concerning – because secrecy promotes injustice.
Sadly, children do sometimes need to be taken into care. Most of the time, I’m sure, family courts make the right call.
However, some families are broken up unnecessarily. In 2008, Camilla Cavendish wrote a number of articles for The Times, documenting serious mistakes by social services. In several cases, expert witnesses gave testimony without ever having met the families involved.
The problem is that we don’t know how widespread these errors are, because the courts sit in secret. Adoption order proceedings are closed to the public and the press, and rarely published. Moreover, the identities of expert witnesses are protected. Secrecy allows injustice to be covered up.
It has long been recognised – by both ministers and judges – that more transparency is required. Yet efforts to increase it have fallen short.
Sir James Munby’s transparency guidance, for example, left the decision as to whether to publish to judges’ discretion. The new research by academics at Cardiff University reveals that very few judges have opted to do so – as a paper published by the UKIP PRU predicted.
The system needs much bolder reform. In our paper, we called for the publication of judgments to be mandatory, greater media access to both proceedings and case documents, and expert witnesses to be identified.
We also advocated greater use of Special Guardianship Orders, so that, if children do have to be taken from their families, they are placed at least temporarily with grandparents or other relatives, rather than total strangers.
Transparency helps ensure justice. It shouldn’t be resisted.
22 MAR 2017

Monetary policy is hurting productivity

 

Andy Haldane, the Bank of England’s chief economist, has admitted that ultra-loose monetary policy is a drag on productivity. So why won’t the Bank change course?

Productivity is the key to prosperity. Increased wealth comes from producing more using less effort, time, and resources. If productivity stagnates – as it has in the UK – prosperity will follow suit.

One of the drivers of low productivity growth is cheap credit. Inefficient companies that would otherwise have failed, and replaced by better competitors, have been sustained by artificially low borrowing costs.

Haldane’s case for record-low interest rates is that they prevented mass unemployment. Perpetuating zombie companies was worth it, he claims, to safeguard jobs.

That argument had some force in the immediate aftermath of the financial crisis. Less so nearly a decade later. Keeping interest rates at record lows indefinitely means making low productivity growth the norm, while at the same time creating the conditions for another job-destroying financial crisis.

Cheap money is not the only reason for poor productivity. Another, which Haldane neglected to mention, is corporate welfare. Tax credits incentivise employers to use cheap (often imported) labour, rather than invest in new technology – as UKIP’s Economy Spokesman, Mark Reckless, explains in a recent paper.

But the economic effects of artificially manipulating the price of capital shouldn’t be underestimated. Experience has shown that official price controls create either gluts or shortages. Market prices always allocate resources better.

Capital is no different. Lower productivity is one of many dangerous imbalances caused by ultra-loose monetary policy. They need to be corrected, not excused.

21 MAR 2017

Give voters the right to sack MPs

 

Like so much of what the House of Commons does these days, yesterday’s debate on MPs double-jobbing was mostly virtue signalling. That’s because MPs don’t like the real solution: recall elections.

In the United States, representatives can be recalled by their electorate. If enough local people sign a petition, they trigger a by-election. Voters then decide whether or not to renew their representative’s mandate at the ballot box.

We could have had the same system here. In 2014, a Recall of MPs Bill was announced in the Queen’s Speech.

But the title was misleading. Under the final legislation, voters can only trigger a by-election if a committee of grandees – or a court of law – has first found an MP guilty of wrongdoing. Rather than put voters in charge, the Bill let MPs act as a self-serving cartel.

Indeed, the government made sure Zac Goldsmith’s amendments to the Bill – which would have led to a real right of recall – were rejected.

Now we see why. Would the former Chancellor would have taken on so many roles outside Parliament if a recall election in Tatton were a possibility?

The debate about MPs taking jobs outside Westminster in any case misses the point. The most common form of double-jobbing is the appointment of MPs as ministers. Voters should have a say on that too.

Until a century ago, they did. Prior to the Re-Election of Ministers Acts (1919 & 1926), MPs had to face ministerial by-elections to join the Cabinet. They could only become ministers with their constituents’ consent.

Consent wasn’t always given. Between 1895 and 1926, there were 127 ministerial by-elections. On eight occasions, the ministers-designate lost.

The way to keep MPs in check isn’t to empower a toothless regulator. It’s to let their constituents hold them to account.

20 MAR 2017

Politicians and press have become indistinguishable

 

George Osborne’s appointment as Evening Standard editor says a lot about the state of the press. It ought to be perverse for a politician to be a journalist. But, when many so-called journalists do little more than push a political agenda, what’s the difference?

The idea of journalists as brave, independent scrutineers of politics may be appealing, but it’s not accurate. The relationship between the Fourth Estate and the political class is actually far too cosy.

Because politicians trade access for positive coverage, many journalists end up going native. Instead of exposing the governing elite, they act as its cheerleaders.

“That’s nothing new,” you might think. “Newspapers have always had a clear bias.”

Of course, there has always been an editorial point of view. The difference now is that there is little but opinion. Subjective analysis now masquerades as news.

During the referendum campaign, for example, it was striking how both print and broadcast media reported George Osborne’s Project Fear narrative as objective fact. No matter that none of it has turned out to be true.

Pundits frequently make out that established media are losing market share because consumers are now more interested in fake news than truth. The people, we’re told, are at fault.

The reality is the opposite. People are losing faith in established media because they see through the false pretence to objectivity. There’s a market for truth which the press is failing to deliver. Rather than cater to the public, pundits have joined the oligarchy.

Osborne will no doubt use his perch at the Standard to push the same spin he did as Chancellor. Far from being unqualified, he’s taking up an all too familiar role. That’s the problem.

17 MAR 2017

The Bank of England should follow the Fed’s lead

 

Ultra-loose monetary policy is one of the biggest risks to the global economy. Belatedly, the Federal Reserve raised interest rates this week. The Bank of England should follow suit.

There is no justification for record low interest rates. They were supposed to be temporary measure, in the wake of the financial crisis. Instead, they have become permanent. Indeed, the Bank cut them even further last August.

The consequences of artificially cheap credit are disastrous. It encourages consumers to borrow too much, banks to take excessive risks, and companies to buy back shares rather than invest in improving productivity.

Moreover, it transfers wealth from the asset poor to the asset rich. It is stoking a housing bubble that is preventing a generation from buying their own homes. 

Central banks are reluctant to raise interests because they fear the only thing keeping the global economy afloat is consumer borrowing and spending. Yet they must know that is an unsustainable model.

Eventually, borrowers will default, and contagion will spread to the entire system – just as it did a decade ago. Compounding the problem with more debt will only make the ultimate correction all the more painful. (For more on this, see my paper After Osbrown.)

Yesterday, Kristin Forbes, one of the nine members of the Bank of England’s Monetary Policy Committee, dissented from the majority decision to leave rates unchanged, and voted to raise them. Let’s hope she persuades the rest of her colleagues next month.

16 MAR 2017

Forcing U-turns is Parliament’s job

 

Pundits see the government’s decision to scrap its planned rise in NI contributions for the self-employed as the Chancellor’s failure. Perhaps it should just be seen as Parliament doing its job.

Politicos have become so used to budgets being nodded through by MPs that they have come to believe Parliament is supposed to work like this. But it’s not.

Prior to the 1930s, backbench MPs could table amendments to the budget resolutions. The national government changed the rules to prevent it. Since then, Parliament has tended just to rubber stamp hundreds of billions of pounds’ worth of spending and taxation.

Yet opposition from MPs has now forced a volte face on the centrepiece of the budget after only a week. Perhaps Parliament isn’t quite so powerless after all.

It will be interesting to see how the Chancellor now replaces the ditched measures.

In autumn 2015, George Osborne backtracked over tax-credit reductions without replacing them with alternative cuts. Instead, he conjured up an extra £27 billion from nowhere – based on conveniently revised borrowing projections. In effect, he simply borrowed more money.

By contrast, Hammond has hinted at a broader rethink of the treatment of the self-employed in the tax system – so as to achieve the same ends by different means. That suggests self-employed people shouldn’t celebrate just yet. Alternative tax rises may be coming in the autumn.

That’s the wrong approach. Rather than tax – or borrow – more, government needs to spend less.

Parliament has demonstrated that cross-party opposition can block tax rises. Now we need cross-party support for spending cuts.

15 MAR 2017

We need a Bloggers Freedom Bill

 

Five years ago, I crowdsourced a Private Members’ Bill on Guido Fawkes. From five options, the people picked a Bill to repeal the European Communities Act. How prescient they were. Now I’d like to revive another of my suggestions: a Bloggers Freedom Bill.

Britain’s libel laws are out of date. They were developed at a time when very few people published anything. Those who did were affiliated to large organisations with the financial resources to defend themselves in court.

Yet they are now applied in a world where millions of individuals – without financial backing – publish constantly, both online and on social media.

The law needs to be updated for the digital age.

People do need protection from libel, and their intellectual property should be safeguarded. But, at the same time, those posting on social media should have some security against being sued.

The Bloggers Freedom Bill I suggested would be a compromise. It would give bloggers and tweeters a 48-hour period of grace – to remove content – before legal action could be taken.

The status quo skews the law in the interests of big media, rich claimants, and lawyers. It restricts the democratisation of media made possible by the digital revolution.

Let’s make libel law reflect today’s reality – and the public interest.

14 MAR 2017

WTO terms are an asset – not a foe

 

The UK should be able to strike a free-trade agreement with the EU. It is in our mutual interests to do so. However, if we cannot reach a good deal, the World Trade Organisation helps us ensure workable terms of trade even if we walk away.

Some MPs seem to think that trading under WTO terms is tantamount to isolation or protectionism. It appears to escape their notice that the precise purpose of the WTO is to facilitate trade.

Under the most-favoured-nation principle, the EU would not be able to discriminate against UK goods with extortionate tariffs even if it wanted to.

As to non-tariff barriers, remember all British companies already comply with single-market regulations and standards by default – unlike those of any other country that trades with the EU on WTO terms.

Imports, meanwhile, would be entirely at our discretion. We could not only set tariffs as low as we want, but also unilaterally allow any product manufactured to EU standards to be sold here – thereby keeping the compliance costs passed on to UK consumers as low as possible.

Those MPs who claim any deal with the EU is better than no deal are being disingenuous about what a bad deal would mean.

An agreement that failed to restore our sovereignty, or our control over our borders and fishing waters, or our freedom to determine our own regulatory environment, or our ability to sign free-trade deals with other – growing – economies beyond Europe is an agreement we cannot accept. Acquiescence would be not only counter to our economic interest, but anti-democratic.

Those who want the government to rule out trading with the EU on WTO terms are, in effect, attempting to rule out Brexit. They are seeking to give the EU sole discretion over our terms of exit – which would mean never leaving.

But Brexit is happening. Parliament has – finally – voted for it. There is every reason to believe we will sign mutually beneficial trading deal with the EU. Yet, whatever the outcome of negotiations, we must all now adapt to a new reality.

13 MAR 2017

Brexit begins

 

264 days since the referendum, Article 50 could be triggered this week. Finally, Brexit is becoming a reality.

Assuming the House of Commons votes down the Lords’ amendments to the Article 50 Bill today, the Lords will be unlikely to obstruct the Bill again. The PM could then trigger Article 50 as soon as tomorrow morning.

Of course, there will be other big Parliamentary votes on the Brexit process – both on the final deal and on the Great Repeal Bill.

But the nature of the debate will now change. There will be no going back.

Ideally, from now on, Parliament would play a constructive – rather than obstructive – role. We can now have substantive discussions about vast areas of policy that were delegated to the EU.

Taking back control shouldn’t be thought of as the end of the process, but the beginning. Power should be spread outwards and downwards: not just from Brussels to Westminster, but from Westminster to local communities, and ultimately to individuals.

But, as the budget debate testifies, the instincts of both the government and the opposition are fundamentally statist. There is a gap in the political marketplace for a localist, classically liberal domestic agenda.

I set out some ideas for what that agenda could look like in my new book, Rebel – published April 6th. No time to lose.

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Wall To Wall Misinformed Hysteria re France

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Wall To Wall Misinformed Hysteria re France
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Wall To Wall Misinformed Hysteria re France’s largely self inflicted deaths, to which Nigel Farage & other irresponsible cults & individuals have added fuel in return for damaging propagandist’s populism; I happily include Francoise Hollande, Marine Le Pen, Benjamin Netenyahoo, David Cameron & many others amongst those seeking populist votes in their misinterpretations, be they based on ignorance or venality.

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I have added little in the last few days as there is little or no point in trying to guide a whipped up crowd in a political firestorm fed by a grossly irresponsible media.

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o-OVERWHELMED-570are offensive to others, particularly those of a very frail and waring belief structure which sets factions and cults within its collective superstition at odds, and being a largely unmodernised bronze age culture which underlies the ‘faith’, why is anyone surprised when they react against such violent images – consider the obscene and violent behaviour of the Westboro Baptists, and the Mormons who have killed numerous book dealers for daring to provide proof their chosen superstition is pure hokum or the so called christians who kill doctors and blow up clinics because they disagree or the christian cult which denies help to children whose lives can be saved with modern medicine.Need I continue?

Well sadly yes!There is a saying that to give a child the encouragement of one adult they will take on the world – you will note that the encouragement of a few million has given the weak minded the encouragement to continue with their childish French version of Viz, which only ever published 60,000 copies, all in French, to supply the bigotted and racist peoples of France and a few commentators!The magazine has over many issues risked closure on a regular basis by its propensity for stimulating racial hatred, yet with encouragement it continues its offensive behaviour:
CHARLIE HEBDO Cover 13-Jan-2015To understand something of the background to the hypocrisy that is portrayed as French Patriotism though more accurately can be shown to be Nationalism thinly masking their overt racism.I do not believe that this extrapolation of the torrid little cartoon is coincidental:

 

CHARLIE HEBDO Cover 14-Jan-2015 02I like Volaire unequivocally defend the right of freedom of speech and people’s right to say what they believe, that I may have utter contempt for such an individual, who abuses this fundamental right, is also true and doubly so when it is done for commercial or personal gain, as with Charlie Hebdon.

Never does the ill manners and ignorance of the inadequate who exploits this privilege, to the detriment of others, justify ANY form of physical or violent reprisal – their was a lapse of ethic and is best rebutted by ethical reprisal and censure.

With the privilege of freedom of speech comes responsibility – sadly a value widely abused as with comedians who push their right to freedom of speech with obscenities and abuse as a substitute for competence in the field of humour.

It is clearly an abuse of freedom of speech to deliberately and gratuitously insult and abuse the beliefs of others and the greater the offence cause the greater that abuse.

Little wonder that Charlie Hebdo was teetering on the verge of bankrupcy and closure with its tasteless and mature abuse of others in the name of satire – gratuitous offence is not satire it is the defence of a charlatan for inability.

I understand that Charlie Hebdo was not only failing to increase circulation but was in fact non viable with a maximum of 60,000 copies an issue and had recently launched a fund raising appeal and effort to raise €1,000,000 to stave off closure failing rightly to raise even 10%. It is hard to consider it a satirical magazine when in reality it was a failed and rather noxious publication pandering to racism and anti establishment values or lack thereof.

Perhaps further consideration of a posting I made previously on another of my blogs is worthy of republication:

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How France Treats It’s Citizens – To their eternal shame.

Posted by Greg Lance-Watkins on 22/10/2011

How France Treats It’s Citizens – To their eternal shame.
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Posted by: Greg Lance-Watkins – Greg_L-W.

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Hi,

much is made of British mistreatment of Muslims.

let me be very clear here, before I start – I do not buy into any belief in any god or gods and tend to believe there has been no greater source of evil, or cover for evil, than mankind’s determination to invent gods to worship/blame and then seek to force these superstitions on others.

In todays world we are in the main saddled with the evils of a triumverate of rival bronze age superstitions, invented with the purposes of control, a back up for tribal laws drawn up by elders and an answer for questions that could not be left for ever in the too difficult column!

Science has moved on, as has the thinking and recording abilities of mankind in the intervening years since Judaism, Christianity and Islam were invented and formed their many cults and schisms as rivals within the doctrines battle for power.

These master plans have to varying degrees moved on to capture new audiences as with adding spare god like beings (prophets, angels and the like) to entrap the multi theists. Meanwhile new rituals and depictions were apposite to capture other followers, as with those who worshipped women to who the sop of ‘Mary’ in some quaint form of deity was added or ‘hallos’ to depict the sun and be a symbol of the sun god worshippers be they amongst those worshipping Ra in Egypt or the rising sun of Wicker and the Celtic Druidic cultures or even the sun worship amongst the Incas and Aztecs.

Now of course so called Christianity is a host of different factions be they Catholic, Baptist, Anglican, Orthodox, liberal, WeeFree, Presbyterian, evangelical, Morman, born again, Mixed Presbyterian, New Life Ministry, Alpha Group, Emmanuel Baptist, Westboro baptist, church in Wales, high church, low church, Cathar, trapist, Russian orthodox, Greek orthodox, Quaker, franciscan, Fallmouth New Life Church, United Reform Church, dominican, Scottish Presbyterian, Dutch reformed, house, reformed, methodist, Jehova’s Witness, Later Day Saints,  and a host of other rival factions in christianity alone!

For a few 100 more factions in christianity alone CLICK HERE
Each with their own leaders, prophets, founders, customs and singular certainty making a mockery of the entire concept of so called ‘religion’.

The jews, the zionists, the khazara, the ashkenazi, the frummers, the muslims, the wahabe, sunni, shiite and their ilk are all broken into yet more fragments and possibly the only man who had the measure of them can be understood more clearly if you CLICK HERE

To add perspective realising VY Masses Majoris at 62.5 AU is 1,000s of times the size of our sun at 1.2GM which is 1,000s of time the size of our weeny planet at 5.5MGM which itself is almost 3 times the size of Mars and much larger than Ceres, Iris Pluto and our own moon!

Minded of, in my opinion, the utter irrelevance of mankind and our incredible insignificance in terms of our planet let alone our solar system and more significantly our universe as we understand it I find it completely implausible to believe in gods, let alone a supreme being overseeing us.

It seems that gods are little more than a bronze age superstition dreamed up on the back of earlier superstitions; superstitions that are and have remained arcane.

I do not deny that there are many people, indeed peoples, who have a need to believe in some all powerful being, both to answer to in their aspirations and to blame for their own failures. It is when these rather bizarre and disparate rival views are used to inculcate rivalry, hatred and a need to protheletise that the concept becomes a force for evil and the more strident the belief is the more damaging that evil becomes.

I have no desire to force those who need a prop in their lives to kick over that prop but just as they might believe it unkind of me, were I to show their views to be false and force that view on them I find it deeply offensive that they seek to force their superstitions upon me.

I have lost more good friends as a result of their desperate insecurity and wish to force their views on me than for any other reason, force which is often initially displayed in the odious manner of patronising attitudes of we know better – when clearly they know nothing but seek to substitute knowledge as a terminology for their various beliefs.

I am happy for my friends, and others, that they have a prop for their lives and the goals that their superstition provides for them and do not seek to dominate their view with mine. However please do not expect me to silently stand by and be insulted and abused when they display the desire to convert me or promote their, to me, risible superstition – particularly when in the whole of human history they can not offer a shred of evidence nor a body of proof of their opinion.

It is for these reasons that I believe that a State religion is no more than a display of the desperate insecurity of that would be State and where better to display this than the obscenity of the behaviour of zionism and zionists in Palestine and the manner in which, in the name of judaism, the peoples of Palestine have been dispossessed, abused, hounded, persecuted and imprisoned behind walls and wire, in the world’s largest open prison in the name of the evil that judaism has permitted zionism to carry out in their name – to their eternal shame.

Indubitably the closes relation of the zionists are the followers of islam and it is easy to identify a number of States that are founded on the evil of enforcwement of their chosen supertition upon its peoples be that the oppresive wahabe followers of the kingdom of the Sauds, the extremism of the Yemen, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria, Oman, TAS and more where the barbarism of their laws and customs is endorsed and practiced by their rulers in the name of some twisted and evil interpretation of the bronze age writings of a self styled cleric and prophet sponsored by the wealth of his considerably older wife!

Mohammed clearly drew up the tennets of belief in support of a largely rural peoples in a harsh desert region, short of water, where many of the peoples were nomadic – a codex designed to display hospitality, generosity, tollerance and other common values amongst the numerous family tribes, a codex by which they could live alongside each other in some harmony, a step forward from endless inter tribal rivalries.

It was not long before the doctrine and its codex of civilising laws fell into the hands of men of evil seeking to interpret it to their own gain be they sunni, shiite, wahabe or a mriad of factions following false prophets and their so called martyrs; many martyred in the name of one display of jealosy or greed or another between the factions.

Let us in the context of these facts consider France, which may seem something of a leap – but is it!

France, which lays claim to ‘the enlightenment’ yet through its history has resorted to barbarism, brutality and acts of cruel indifference and arrogance with the cloak of ‘patriotism’ being misrepresented as that of ‘nationalism’ as a particularly febrile cover for unbridled racism.

Consider the barbarism of the 1,000s of women burned at the stake in France in the Middle Ages and the cruielty of the great war lords of France where in massive oppulence the likes of the Dukes of Corsay starved their peasant farmers and massacred their rivals – behaviour so redollent of the regime of the Sun King and the palaces and life style of Versailles.

When in 1830 the French invaded Algeria confronting muslims and their heritage they devised, over the next century their codex of law for the conquered peoples of Algeria an ‘Indigenous Code’ that not only denied the indigenous peoples any right or opportunity to access education for their children, self respect or positions of any responsibility in governance. A codex that justified French brutality and maswsacres of literally 1,000s of the indigenous peoples.

The barbarity of the French was akin to the brutality of the Spanish & Italian Conquistadores in central and south America of a previous era.

The French claim of civilisation is only surface deep only as displayed by the fact that when eventually in 1954 the Algerians rose against this bestial behaviour, seeking independence and the dignity of self determination.

The efforts to repress the Algerians were obscene in their brutality with the French Government tacitly authorising torture, beatings and killings and never holding anyone to account as they spirited away the criminals acting on the State’s behalf, be they police, French paras or Legion Etranger.

Little wonder that the Algerians increasingly retaliated more violently with the FLN, CRUA, APP & MNA when General Massu instituted concentration camps for some 2 million rural Algerians and punitive strikes against villages that were thought to perhaps harbour dissidents from the FLN which he ruthlessly destroyed on the orders of Charles de Gaulle in 1956 forming the groundwork of ‘apartheid’ as practiced by the boers in South Africa.

Then in 1958 General Salan implemented a policy of division enforced by the injustice of collective responsibility in the style of the Nazis in the conquest of such areas of France that did not succumb.

Finally the vote for independence was forced upon the French and was almost unanimous in its opposition to French rule.

Some 4-6 million French citizens living in ghettos in France are of Algerian descent to this day, where due to the racist nature of the French and the brutality of their management of minorities the hatreds have continued and they are treated disgracefully, building a future of unresolved problems, where those of Algerian descent have difficulty in finding education for their children, health care, housing and work, leaving them bereft of hope and with increasing, and dangerous, resentment wherwe the French seek to blame the results on Islam when clearly it is only the evil lunatic fringe of Islamism thaty exploits this in terms of criminality – similar to the criminal exploitation in Ireland by the IRA!

Consider the reporting of the French massacre of those of Algerian descent in France of 1961, as featured below and consider what problems such brutality is storing up for the France of the future in its racist nationalism and it would seem deservedly so!

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The modern massacre that shames the French: The police slaughter of Algerian immigrants (just 50 years ago) that’s been airbrushed from history

A solid phalanx of French riot police in blue and black uniforms held their ground at one end of the bridge over the River Seine that connects the western suburb of Neuilly to the centre of Paris.

They were a terrifying sight, fully kitted out for battle and raring to go. At the other end stood another line of police, also armed with batons and rifles.

In between them stood around 100 unarmed and very frightened Algerians. Carrying banners and placards, they had come onto the streets of the French capital with 30,000 others that day to protest at official curbs on their freedom to move about the city.

The date was October 17, 1961 – 50 years ago this month – and the bloodbath that was to unfold that autumn day was to be one of the most barbaric and shaming events in ‘civilised’ Europe’s post-war history.

 
Violence: Algerian protesters were slaughtered by French police on the streets of Paris on October 17, 1961

Violence: Algerian protesters were slaughtered by French police on the streets of Paris on October 17, 1961

It still casts an uneasy shadow over France’s large population of North African immigrants. For decades, the truth about October 17 was suppressed. Even today, to a certain extent, France is deluded about what it reveals about the dark racist streak in the country’s psyche.

Under the presidency of General Charles de Gaulle, France was the land of liberty, equality and fraternity, yet what lay just beneath the surface was about to be revealed — repression, racism and violence.

The police began to advance, slowly, from either side, but this was no ‘kettling’ exercise designed to contain and disperse the demonstrators. The intention was to beat, maim and kill.

The trapped Algerians — citizens of France, in fact, because Algeria was at that point still a French colony — had nowhere to run.

As the two police lines met, batons were swung, shots were fired, panicking men, women and even children were cut down. Some were hurled, dead or alive, into the waters of  the Seine.

All over Paris, similar fatal clashes were taking place as the police used indiscriminate and unfettered force to break up the demonstration.

 
Under the presidency of General Charles de Gaulle, France was the land of liberty, equality and fraternity, yet what lay just beneath the surface was revealed that night - repression, racism and violence

Under the presidency of General Charles de Gaulle, France was the land of liberty, equality and fraternity, yet what lay just beneath the surface was revealed that night – repression, racism and violence

Algerians arriving from the shanty towns on the city outskirts where they lived were ambushed at Metro stations, herded together and beaten with truncheons. Eye-witnesses saw police cornering Algerians in side streets and clubbing them at will.

At some of Paris’s most famous tourist landmarks — from the Arc de Triomphe to the Place de la Concorde, the Champs Elysees and the Latin Quarter — there were vicious and utterly one-sided street battles.

Hadj Abdel Aziz was organising demonstrators in the Place de la Nation, the same square where, in the French Revolution 200 years earlier, the guillotine had operated.  It was now the scene of a new kind  of terror.

‘The police shot at people, who fell down wounded or dead,’ he says. ‘Everyone scattered, and I ran to  the entrance to the Metro where I was kicked and crushed. I got  home covered in blood and broken by my wounds.’

How many Algerians did not make it home is still a matter of conjecture and dispute. The official police figure that day was an impossible three dead — two Algerians shot and one, they said, who had died from a heart attack. Algerian sources went to the other extreme, claiming 300 deaths.

The exact number has never been pinned down. In so far as there is any consensus even now on the October 17 death toll, it is only that anywhere between 32 and 200 were killed.

 
Disgrace: The event still casts an uneasy shadow over France's large population of North African immigrants - and for decades, the truth about October 17 was suppressed

Disgrace: The event still casts an uneasy shadow over France’s large population of North African immigrants – and for decades, the truth about October 17 was suppressed

What is certain is that for weeks after, bodies were washed up on the banks of the river. According to the Left-wing writer Simone de Beauvoir: ‘Corpses were found hanging in  the Bois de Boulogne and others, disfigured and mutilated, in the Seine.’

Some of the police involved were so disgusted at their own actions that, many years later, they confessed to taking part in a hate crime.

‘For two hours we hunted and shot anything that moved,’ says one, named Raoul Letard. ‘We were waging a war and our adversary was the Algerians.’

So what precisely was it that sparked off events that left the streets of Paris and the river Seine running with blood?

In Algeria, France’s North African colony since 1830, separatists had been fighting a bloody terrorist war for independence for seven years, and were on the verge of winning.

The 200,000-strong Algerian community living and working in France at that time were considered by the security forces to be a suspicious and dangerous fifth column.

 

Some of the police involved were so disgusted at their own actions that, many years later, they confessed to taking part in a hate crime.

The violence of the fighting in Africa had spread on to the streets of France as supporters of the two rival factions vying for power in Algeria clashed openly in Paris.

When they weren’t killing each other, they targeted policemen with bullets and bombs.

Onto the scene came one of the most controversial figures in modern French politics — Maurice Papon.

He had been a leading figure in the French police force that collaborated with the Germans in World War II. (In 1998 he would be convicted of having rounded up Jews to send to Auschwitz, jailed for ten years and disgraced.)

But in the aftermath of the war,  he and many other collaborators  like him had been accepted back into the fold.

He became a police chief in Algeria, and in dealing with the guerrilla forces of the Algerian National Liberation Front, the FLN, he built a fearsome reputation for brutality, summary executions and torture.

And then he was appointed prefect of police in Paris to crack down on any trouble from Algerians in the city.

The lugubrious Papon — the sort of man who never used a nutcracker when a sledgehammer would do — immediately set out his stall by recruiting a special police force of former soldiers who had fought for France in Algeria and had no love for its people.

He gave them free rein to stop and search, detain without charge and torture French-based members of the FLN.

 
De Gaulle dismissed the killings as 'a matter of secondary importance', and in 1968 issued an amnesty to all police personnel  for crimes committed during  the war with Algeria

De Gaulle dismissed the killings as ‘a matter of secondary importance’, and in 1968 issued an amnesty to all police personnel for crimes committed during the war with Algeria

In essence, he unleashed a dirty  war against the entire Algerian community, all of whom he considered to be suspects.

But the FLN was not about to be cowed. With diplomatic negotiations underway to bring the war in Algeria to an end and give the country its independence, it attempted to hurry things along by stepping up terror attacks on the streets of Paris.

Twenty policemen were killed, half of them in the first two weeks of October 1961.

At one emotion-charged funeral, Papon promised retaliation. ‘For each blow received, we’ll respond with 10,’ he told them. He then announced a curfew on the so-called ‘French Muslims of Algeria’. They were banned from the streets between 8.30pm and 5.30am.

The FLN hit back with mass demonstration, ruthlessly using death threats to coerce some of  its more reluctant supporters to join in.

Cannily it gave the order that they were to go on to the streets totally unarmed, with not even a penknife that might be seen as an offensive weapon and invite retaliation. Organisers even frisked those taking part to make sure they weren’t carrying hidden weapons.

Some demonstrators were arrested and taken to police headquarters near Notre Dame, where they were confined in a courtyard and battered to death. Police handing out the beatings first removed the identification numbers from their uniforms.

Papon flooded Paris with 7,000 police, possibly more. He wound them up to a pitch of fury and then unleashed them with the promise they would never be called to account for anything they did that day.

‘I give you my word that you will be covered,’ he told them.

The stage was set for a vindictive act of vengeance that would quickly descend into mass murder.

Nor was it just in the streets that violence took place. Some demonstrators were arrested and taken to police headquarters near Notre Dame, where they were confined in a courtyard and battered to death.

Police handing out the beatings first removed the identification numbers from their uniforms.

Senior officers — quite possibly even Papon himself — watched the brutality, ignoring pleas by shocked officers to halt the killing.

Meanwhile, as many as 14,000 other Algerians were being rounded up and detained in internment centres. There, more harsh treatment was meted out with rifle butts and pick handles.

‘They tortured us with hot iron rods to learn the names of our leaders. At night they woke us with jets of water,’ says one man.

He recalled having to go through a gauntlet of baton-wielding riot police to get to the toilets. ‘We preferred to pee in our pants.’

A cover-up began as soon as the mayhem on the streets subsided, with Papon maintaining his men had fired only after they themselves had been shot at. He claimed that any bodies in the street were  the result of in-fighting among Algerians themselves. The Paris newspapers generally accepted this explanation and dug no deeper.

The Communist Party spoke out against what had happened, as did isolated groups and some individuals in the Paris council and the national government.

 
It was not until the Eighties suspicions about what happened on the terrible day rose to the surface and investigations began

It was not until the Eighties suspicions about what happened on the terrible day rose to the surface and investigations began

But since cameras had been confiscated from photographers who filmed incidents that did not fit the official story and newspaper accounts were censored, there was no hard evidence to go on.

There was no wave of revulsion that could disturb the French government’s position. The waters closed over the entire incident.

Then, when the Algerian war ended in a truce just months later in March 1962 and Algeria won its independence, the hate-filled events of October 17, 1961, seemed redundant — best glossed over by all sides in the spirit of co-operation between France and the new Algerian government.

De Gaulle dismissed the killings as ‘a matter of secondary importance’, and in 1968 issued an amnesty to all police personnel  for crimes committed during  the war with Algeria. No one was ever brought to account,  and silence about what had happened remained unbroken for two decades.

Now, 50 years on, it is finally clear that the French police force inflicted grotesque, racially-motivated violence on a community whose actions in no way merited the extreme punishment handed out to them.

It was not until the Eighties that suspicions about what happened on that terrible day rose to the surface and investigations began.

In 1991, a book reconstructing the day in detail put the number of Algerian deaths at 200 and used the word ‘massacre’.

Papon sued the author for libel, but lost the case after being forced to admit the body count he had put at three was at least ten times  that figure.

France and the world finally opened their eyes to what had happened on the Neuilly Bridge, the Place de la Nation and all the other dark spots in the so-called City of Light.

Now, 50 years on, it is finally clear that the French police force inflicted grotesque, racially- motivated violence on a community whose actions in no way merited the extreme punishment handed out to them.

Some believe that the massacre was the result of confused government policies towards North Africans in French society, which simultaneously tried to promote integration by offering them special assistance in health, education and jobs — while actively stoking up resentment against them.

The result of these mixed messages was an eruption of killing and a rift between the communities that has not healed to this day. Racism is rife in France and attacks on North Africans remain sickeningly commonplace.

They tend to live on blighted housing estates, the successors of the earlier shanty towns. Even today, these estates are regularly subjected to curfews, and paramilitary forces move in to deal with  any disturbances.

French Algerians report they are made to feel unwelcome in the city centre and Paris’s tourist spots.

France seems at last to be coming to terms with the shameful events of October 17, which is an official day of remembrance. But whether it has really learned any lessons from the brutal attacks on the Neuilly Bridge is another matter.

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Probably the sadest part of this story is that it is far from a single event and was the backbone of French north African policy over 130 years, a policy that has changed little to this day, when time and time again France is castigated by Amnesty International’s annual reports for the high level of deaths in custody of French citizens of Algerian descent and constant reports of brutality by the forces of the French Government.

One need look no further than the history of Mali, Chad, Niger, CAR and the like for further examples of such exorable colonial behaviour and brutality towards the indiginous peoples and Rwanda was a French colony where the French did such damage that it led to genocide where the French aided the Hutu and became complicit in the genocide.

Consider the manner in which the French fled Viet-Nam at Dien Bien Fu not only abandoning such allies as they had amongst the people leaving all records to incriminate them but using the Legion Etranger to cover their backs as they fled, resulting in abandoning the Legion to torture and death as the city fell.

For all its protestations of civilisation France has a long record of duplicity as displayed by the acquiescence to Nazi Germany of its Vicchy Government and in a nation of some 60 million many are surprised to note that the much vaunted Maquis amounted to a mere 2,000 at best whilst the likes of Francoise Mitterand and his cronies colluded with the Nazis and together with Klaus Barbie deported 1,000s of French jews in an act of ethnic cleansing to the Nazi run slaughter institutes of Auschwitz, Bergen Belsen, Treblinka and the like.

It is hard to consider that any form of uprising of those of Algerian descent in France, even as French citizens, is other than well earned!
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I also find the thoughts of Dr. Richard North of complimentary value:

Saturday 10 January 2015

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No one with any just claim to understanding the events of the last few days can be unaware of the uneasy relationship between French society and the estimated four million people of Algerian descent in the country. They are, in the words of Dr Martin Evans, writing in 2011, disproportionately poor and discriminated against; at times their young, caught between two different cultures.

Only a few years later, that is as true now as it was then but, in 2004, we saw written that the Algerian immigrants in France were “poor and ghettoised – and are a standing challenge to France’s traditional image of itself and its cultural identity”.

A year later, we see written this, a narrative about the fate of the descendants of the north Africans who had been drafted in to help with the reconstruction of France after the Second World War. They were housed in what the French call Les cites, and we are told:

The[se] “ghettos” are specially built for excluded and disfranchised migrants from France’s former North African colonies – mostly Arabs and Muslims – and other parts of the world. Clustered on the peripheries of France’s big cities, Les cités proved to be laboratories for dissent and resistance against oppression. The children of the immigrants who built France after World War II are being pushed further outside the French society.

It is important to emphasise that the French youth who are protesting against police violence and the policy of the French political establishment, are French citizens. They were born into first and second generation immigrants communities from France’s former colonies. They are not motivated by religion, and the protest has nothing to do with Islam and Western cliché of “Islamic fundamentalism”. It is a protest against oppression and racism. This is the only way the youth can express their anger and frustration at French political establishment which deny immigrants to be integrated in their diversity. Successive French governments failed to come up with a fair and successful integration policy.

The “second class citizens” have been pushed further out of the centres into France’s larger suburbs of Paris, Nice, and Lyon Toulouse, Marseille, Strasbourg and other big cities where their parents once provided cheap labour for France’s factories. The youth are excluded from the French society, and subjected to brutal and Nazi-like police harassments, encouraged by racist policies. In its annual report in April 2005, Amnesty International have criticised the “impunity” provided to police and police violent treatments of youth from North African origins during the provocative identity checks. In fact, an Arab or an African man has no right to look a policeman in the face during this deliberate and daily racism faced by young people of colour.

Interestingly, the Amnesty International report for 2013 shows how little things have changed.  Two years before that report, though, an unlikely source, the Daily Mail published an article describing how in 1961, during the war with Algeria, French police had slaughtered upwards of 200 protesting Algerians – some thrown into the Seine to drown.

Some demonstrators had been arrested and taken to police headquarters near Notre Dame, where they had been confined in a courtyard and battered to death. Police handing out the beatings first removed the identification numbers from their uniforms. Senior officers watched the brutality, ignoring pleas by shocked officers to halt the killing.

On this, the freedom-loving French press were completely silent, paving the way for an official cover-up, whence in 1968 De Gaulle dismissed the killings as “a matter of secondary importance” and issued an amnesty to all police personnel for crimes committed during the war with Algeria. In 2011, the Mail wrote:

Some believe that the massacre was the result of confused government policies towards North Africans in French society, which simultaneously tried to promote integration by offering them special assistance in health, education and jobs — while actively stoking up resentment against them.

The result of these mixed messages was an eruption of killing and a rift between the communities that has not healed to this day. Racism is rife in France and attacks on North Africans remain sickeningly commonplace. They tend to live on blighted housing estates, the successors of the earlier shanty towns. Even today, these estates are regularly subjected to curfews, and paramilitary forces move in to deal with any disturbances.

French Algerians report they are made to feel unwelcome in the city centre and Paris’s tourist spots.

Also covering the same events was the Observer, which concluded that few would argue that the tribal murders committed by Paris police half a century ago are likely to be repeated today. However, it added, “nor would anyone pretend that the discriminatory policies which gave rise to such horrors have disappeared from modern France”.

Four years later, the same author makes a plea for people not to blame the current bloodshed on France’s Moslems. Writer Nabila Ramdani argues:

The three French-Algerian men believed responsible for the 12 deaths in Paris on Wednesday would have been steeped in a recent history of this conflict which, in the 1960s, was exported from the battlefields of Algeria to Paris itself. During one notorious atrocity in 1961, up to 200 Algerians were slaughtered around national monuments, including the Eiffel Tower and Notre Dame cathedral. Many were tossed into the Seine from some of the most beautiful bridges in the world and left to drown.

Half a century on, the violence has subsided but there is still a strong sense of resentment among alienated communities living in housing estates on the outskirts of the capital. Many are Muslims of north African origin who complain that discrimination against them extends to every field of life, from housing and employment to the right to religious expression. This is particularly so as politicians of the left and right regularly blame Islam for these social problems, which in fact have nothing to do with spiritual faith.

To add to this narrative we even get Robert Fisk, with plausible arguments which say that “Paris attack brothers’ campaign of terror can be traced back to Algeria in 1954”.

That much and much more is indeed arguable, and plausibly so, but not according to the self-appointed “experts” on the comment thread of my 366 Comments. A significant number will have it that Islam is the primary or even sole motivator for the killing, insisting that alternatives are “not up for debate”.

This is alongside those who rashly and irrationally argue in support of Farage that the killings are a consequence of multiculturalism. Yet, by even the most basic of definitions, multiculturalism is a celebration of diversity, manifest in an official policy where cultures other than the host culture are maintained and supported.

Underpinning multiculturalism, of course, is tolerance of other cultures, and there is nothing whatsoever in the French treatment of the Algerians that can be called tolerant, or in any respect be identified with multiculturalism. Those that argue otherwise are demonstrably wrong, and by reference to easily verifiable facts.

Furthermore, all this is very far from academic, and comprehension is not assisted by ill-informed prattle. As I have argued many times, the greater part of any solution to an ill is correctly to identify the problems. The often bigoted and always blinkered insistence of some on reducing complex problems to a series of formulaic mantras is misguided and damaging.

Not least, as I have argued elsewhere, we are dealing with the effects of tribalism – and the breakdown of tribal disciplines – and the relationship with Islam, which is probably a powerful, if scarcely recognised phenomenon.

Whatever the actual causal factors, they are bound to be many, with complex interactions. Thus, those with the ability to influence the debate should keep their minds open to a range of possibilities. The issues we are dealing with are too important for polemics, political posturing and the blind certainties that we have seen over the past few days.

By that measure, then, I stand by my view that Farage – and those who support him – are both wrong and dangerous in promoting their superficial mantras. We need better than this, and if people such as Farage can’t shape the debate responsibly and with more understanding than they have shown, they are best keeping quiet.

 

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The date of the Guardian piece (illustrated above) is rather significant – it was published in 2012. The theme is rather familiar, a litany of woes of the French-Algerian community of 4 million, and the way they are so very badly treated by the French, “second-class citizens” being a rather optimistic description.

Franco-Algerian history, of course, goes way back, but includes a savage war of independence, where state-sanctioned torture and reprisals were widely used by the French military, in an inglorious episode in its history.

Given then there current way that those of Algerian descent are treated, and by comparison with, say, the number of mass shootings you get in the United States, one could venture a cautious option that it is remarkable that there have not been more such episodes such as the Charlie Hebdo shooting.

In the context, therefore, the very last thing one might be comfortable saying that is that “uncontrolled immigration” was in any way a contributory factor in the shooting, that it was a function of “multi-culturalism” or that there was any aspect of the shooting which could be attributable to a “fifth column living within our own countries … out to destroy our whole civilisation and our way of life”.

On a purely factual level, therefore, Farage is wrong in his comments, and even if he had a point to make, his timing was execrable. Offering a political analysis not a full day after the shooting was poor judgement, and especially as the full facts are very far from being known.

Political rivals, therefore, are quite right to condemn Farage. Once again he has shown poor judgement and a lamentably superficial understanding of complex issues.

What is terrifying, though, is the comments on the likes of the Breitbart site – and even – it would appear – the bulk of the Daily Mail comments, which appear to support the Ukip leader.

We know full well that newspaper web comments do not reflect majority public opinion (or we would probably have a Ukip government in power), but they do demonstrate that there is a very large number of people who cannot think straight, and allow themselves to support Farage’s ill-founded comments.

In the fullness of time, there will be lessons to learn from this shooting, and it is going to take careful thought and evaluation to come up with the right lessons. But political leaders who are prone to jump to the wrong conclusions, on the basis of flawed analysis, and incomplete information, are not to be trusted.

By that measure, Farage, once again, has shown that he is entirely unfit to lead a political party. But some of his followers and supporters are also showing that they are not people whose judgement can be trusted either. They may deserve Farage – but we don’t.

 

Peter North’s comments on the issue are also unequivocal:
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Or HERE also HERE and HERE & HERE plus HERE & HERE
There is a great deal more factually supported opinion on his blog worthy of reading, when you can find the time.

The great danger we in Britain face as a result of what has happened in France as a result of French racism over many years is that in this year, facing a general election, particularly and with the light weight ill informed populism of Nigel Farage and his cult of irresponsible followers that the two British parties of stature and standing may try to exploit the situation to fend off Ukip’s crass challenge.

A challenge that has done great harm to the EUroSceptic and particularly the EUroRealist cause by conflating it with scraping the gutters of politics for the easy & populist voters who as Oswald Mosley, Adolf Hitler and others before and since realised by pandering to racism they would gain traction for as long as it was cloaked in claims of Nationalism; as you will recall Mosley was voted man of the year in 1934 and Hitler in 1938 for the influence and exploitation of democracy as was Nigel Farage in 2014!

The great danger is that the Police will set about Empire building and both the Tories & Labour will seek the unthinking and ill informed votes from the populist pool by clamouring for greater arming of the police!

Before considering arming more police do be minded that in France, with a similar population to that of Britain they failed to save lives having 17 people killed by 3 armed hooligans despite deploying 90,000 armed police of a total of 220,000 French police who are armed.

In Britain we have on the mainland handled many years of active murder by the IRA and subsequently by dishonest individuals exploiting the simple minded failures in their social group in the name but not the spirit of Islam. This we have done with currently just under 5,000 armed police officers and a reticence to deploy our military forces in a civil role in the country.

In any civilised nation where a death penalty for any crime it is clearly a mark of failure accrued by every single lethal weapon deployed. Let us not forget the fact that the British police can not name a single uninvolved life saved by the use of lethal force in the hands of the police yet it is not difficult to construct a list of individuals thus murdered by armed police (with a hat tip to Wiki):

We must do all we can to resist such an irresponsible act of seeking votes by our politicians in their efforts to pander to the unthinking garnered from such a populist clamour for greater powers; clearly greater powers invested in the state are by deffinition a loss of freedoms for the peoples for who that state are but servants!

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further to my posting at CLICK HERE it would seem that David Cameron is not the only one who is poorly briefed or telling lies! it does look as if The EU Commission themselves are muddled by the complexity of their own rules!
A careful read of this Press Release below, would SEEM to contradict al else that has been published and earlier understanding by both the British Government (aka David Cameron) and The EU itself – not to mention myself who had found myself going down exactly the same line as the professional blogger and political researcher Dr. Richard North!
Further with care in your reading of the Press Release it would SEEM to contradict itself within its own text!
European Commission
MEMO

Brussels, 24 October 2014

REVISION OF MEMBER STATES’ GNI CONTRIBUTION – Q&A

1. Who decides to increase Member states’ GNI contribution to the EU budget and why?

The different types of own resources of the EU budget and the method for calculating them are set out in a Council Decision on own resources and its implementing regulation. Thus the rules relating to the calculation of Member states’ contribution based on their respective Gross National Income are established in the own resources legislation.

In May of each year the Commission and representatives of each Member state meet to establish the estimated GNI of every member state for the year to come. That specific source of income for the EU budget is then adopted in agreement with the Member states.

Each autumn, the Commission and representatives of each Member state meet a second time, this time to check whether there are differences between the original GNI estimates and the “real” GNI for the previous year, and whether there any further adjustment to older GNI data, still based on the figures provided by each Member state.

Member states’ individual GNI contribution is then adjusted upwards or downwards to compensate for the adjustments. This is a purely mathematical, technical process. So much so, that member states agreed that the Commission can implement the adjusted figures by 1 December every year without any need to submit a proposal to the Council and/or to the European Parliament.

2. Does this year’s technical adjustment take into account the new method to calculate member states’ GDP (ESA 2010)?

No. This new method to calculate member states’ GDP will have no impact on their GNI contribution to the EU budget until the new own resources decision comes into effect, which is probably 2016.

3. Why does this year’s technical adjustment see such big increases of contributions to the EU budget for some member states?

This year’s adjustment includes GNI re-calculation dating back to 2002 for most member states and to 1995 for one, as there were a number of unresolved issues that had accumulated over the last years. The decision to resolve these historic issues now results from a joint effort of member states in cooperation with Eurostat. With all these issues now cleared, future such corrections will again be rather minor, as they were in recent years.

Some member states have consistently reported too low values for their GNI over the last years, this obviously explain the size of some adjustments upwards.

4. Why has the Commission decided to act just now?

As explained earlier, the adjusted GNI contributions must come into force by 1 December at the latest. However, the earlier in the year you calculate the real GNI for that given year the less accurate you are. The Commission must therefore find a compromise between announcing the revised GNI figures as late as possible in order to be as accurate as possible, and as early as possible in order to give member states enough time to adapt to the new figures. This year, member States were informed of the budgetary impact of the new data on 17 October.

5. Do those adjustments always increase member states’ GNI contributions?

Not at all; it mostly depends on member states themselves as the basis for such revision is the figures provided by the member states. If your recorded GNI for any given year is lower than what was estimated at the beginning of the year, your GNI contribution will go down.

The original of this Press Release fom the EU Commission can be seen at:
The one thing of which we can all be certain is that the central bureaucracy has NOT, as some would like you to believe, carried out some gratuitous act of enbittered bullying as the present Commission leaves office, in order to vivtimise these United Kingdoms and slap down David Camerons efforts to ‘re-negotiate’ and hold an IN / OUT Referendum when re-elected after May 2015, as promised.
What we can be certain of is the unpalatable, for David Cameron and part of the Tory party, is that unilateral re-negotiation just is not on the cards. EU Treaty after EU Treaty to which the British Government has freely, if duplicitously much of the time, signed up clearly states that there is no possibility of an substantial or substantive re-negotiation and that ALL decisions must be on the basis of either QMV or unanimous vote of the EU’s vassal states!
This of course places David Cameron and his Government when re-elected, assuming that Ukip has not garnered enough votes to destroy Britain by so consequentially damaging the Tories as to place the utterly incompetent, economic idiots and extremist Fabians etc., in the Labour party, in a controlling position!
The problem for David Cameron will be that he will be honour bound to actively campaign, with his Government for Britain to leaver the EU, which is counter to his aims to subjugate Britain yet further to the globalist control of the arcane and outdated EU, which merely acts as obfuscation and a rubber stamp for the issuance of International law by the likes of UN, CODEX, WTO, IMF, WHO and the like. He will have proved that Britain’s 8% influence and voting control of our destiny, whilst still in the EU, is of absolutely no material consequence!
You will find the article below by Richard goes into further detail regarding the ‘Budget Confusion’  first here is the article in The Telegraph which Richard wrote with Tim Ross:

George Osborne under pressure over EU budget row

European Union officials warned Britain in January that new bills were coming, and produced figures showing that the UK was likely to have to pay higher fees this autumn

David Cameron in Brussels for the European Council. Photo: REX
 

The European Union warned Britain months ago that it was facing a massive increase in its EU membership fee, according to documents seen by The Telegraph.

A furious David Cameron vowed on Friday that he would not pay an “appalling” and unexpected demand for an extra £1.7 billion in British contributions to the EU budget by the December 1 deadline.

However, The Telegraph can disclose that EU officials warned member states in January that new bills were coming, and produced figures showing that Britain was likely to have to pay higher fees this autumn.

The disclosure cast doubt on Mr Cameron’s claims that he had been ambushed out of the blue by the demand for more money on the eve of the Brussels summit on Thursday.

The development will intensify pressure on the Prime Minister and George Osborne, the Chancellor, over why Britain was apparently so unprepared for the extra surcharge.

In other developments as the row grew:

:: Treasury ministers are to be hauled before MPs this week to explain why Mr Cameron was not informed of the impending£1.7 billion charge from the European Union;

:: Mr Osborne is preparing to launch talks with other European finance ministers, ahead of a meeting on November 7 at which the dispute is expected to be discussed. The Chancellor will raise Britain’s concerns with the German Finance Minister, Wolfgang Schaeuble, and others, when they meet in Berlin this week at a global forum on tax transparency;

:: Senior Treasury officials are meeting this weekend, and will be speaking to their counterparts in the Netherlands, Italy, and Greece to build an alliance of countries to fight the extra demands for money.

:: Labour’s Treasury spokesman, Chris Leslie, wrote to Mr Osborne demanding that the Chancellor set out what he knew, when about the demand for more money. Mr Leslie told Mr Osborne he had “serious questions to answer”about how long the government had known about the potential for Britain to be hit with such a massive surcharge;

:: A senior Member of the European Parliament warned that Mr Cameron would have to pay the £1.7 billion, saying the confusion was “an entirely British affair” and that the rest of Europe “expects” the UK to pay up;

:: It emerged that Britain would face EU fines worth more than £1.3 million a day for every day the country refuses to pay the extra bill.

The call for the extra cash, which followed a review of member states’ economic performance since 1995, was described by Mr Cameron as “completely unacceptable”.

The detailed demand for £1.7 billion was first sent to EU member state governments on October 17, several days before the information reached the Chancellor.

The Chancellor has said he learnt about the bill “earlier this week”, but it appeared to catch the Prime Minister off guard.

On Saturday, Sir Bill Cash, chair of the Commons European scrutiny select committee, announced that ministers from the Treasury would be summoned to explain the apparent lack of action over the bill which left Mr Cameron exposed at the summit.

Sir Bill said: “I’m calling in Treasury ministers next week to my committee so that we can go through how this happened in addition to what they have to say about the way in which they intend to handle it from now on.”

“So we’ll have a proper examination which will obviously include looking at the system itself which I’ve already described as crazy.”

The extra £1.7billion bill is a result of changes in the way national accounts are calculated across the world, which have had the effect of increasing Britain’s GDP by more than the European average. This meant Britain’s required contribution to the overall EU budget would also increase by more than the EU average.

Different EU member states make different contributions to the EU budget, depending on their national incomes.

On January 16, European statisticians said the EU-wide average increase resulting from the change in the way national accounts are calculated was a rise of 2.4 per cent in GDP. For Britain, the projected figure was higher, between 3 per cent and 4 per cent.

A prominent MEP warned Mr Cameron yesterday that Europe “expects” Britain to pay the surcharge by the December 1 deadline.

“It appears the Prime Minister was surprised by this in Brussels,” said Alexander Graf Lambsdorff, vice-president of the European Parliament.

“And that I can understand, because a bill of €2bn, £1.7bn, is significant enough to be informed about before you go to a summit and then are confronted with it in a surprising way. But that is an entirely British affair. The rest of Europe expects you to pay and that’s that.”

On Saturday, The Telegraph reported that Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, had told Mr Cameron he should have anticipated the European Union’s demand.

According to a diplomatic record of talks between European leaders seen by the paper, the German Chancellor told the Prime Minister the call “did not come out of the blue”.

“I understand that it is difficult to come up with €2 billion [£1.7billion] David, but this should have been expected,” Ms Merkel said.

The European Commission president, Jean Claude Juncker, also told Mr Cameron to “show some political courage” over the call.

 The article can be found at CLICK HERE
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Monday 27 October 2014

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Something of the story behind the story on Mr Cameron’s £1.7bn began to emerge in the Sunday Telegraph yesterday, with lead writer Tim Ross kindly adding my by-line to the copy. The Mail on Sunday, however, went for a fictional version of events, going for Mr Gove’s incredible theory that the Barroso personally dumped a £1.7 bill on the UK as an act of revenge.

The Financial Times though, is coming up with a completely different version of events. The £1.7bn figure, it tells us, is a one-off payment which accounts for less than 0.1 percent of UK GNI, representing a top-up to UK contributions covering 11 years. Thus, the paper says, Britain is being asked to pay a “modest” adjustment of an extra £150m a year over the period, a sum that would barely deserve a footnote in the UK’s annual accounts.

Now, the Mail is saying much the same thing, that “the European Commission issued the demand to the UK after using rules dating back to 1995 and finding Britain’s economy has grown faster than expected, so must pay a greater share to Brussels”.

This, one assumes, is based on the Commission Q&A on the revision of Member States’s GNI, which I only saw last night. Contradicting completely my report on the application of ESA 2010, it states that this year’s technical adjustment does NOT take into account the new method of calculating member states’ GNIs. This new method, it says, will have no impact on their GNI contributions to the EU budget until the new own resources decision comes into effect, which is probably 2016.

To the question of why this year’s technical adjustment sees such big increases of contributions to the EU budget for some member states, the Commission tells us that this year’s adjustment includes GNI re-calculation dating back to 2002 for most member states and to 1995 for one.

There were, we are told, a number of unresolved issues that had accumulated over the last years. The decision to resolve these historic issues now results from a joint effort of member states in cooperation with Eurostat. With all these issues now cleared, future such corrections will again be rather minor, as they were in recent years. This seems to be borne out by sight of an (undated) information note to member states, which sets out the sums involved, on which much of the media publicity has been based.

As to the legal authority to apply retrospective adjustments, the Commission cites Council Regulation No 1150/2000 of 22 May 2000 implementing Decision 94/728/EC on the system of the Communities’ own resources. It would seem that Article 10(8) applies, referring to Article 3(2) of Directive 89/130/EEC on the harmonization of the compilation of gross national product at market prices.

There is nevertheless something very odd about the Commission Q&A, because it cites Council Decision 2007/436/EC on the system of the European Communities’ own resources, as being the basis for calculating the Members’ contributions. Yet, as we see here, that Decision has been repealed and replaced by Council Decision 2014/335/EU on the system of own resources of the European Union. It takes effect from 1 January of this year.

The crucial thing about this updated Decsion is that it tells us that Member States’ GNIs “shall mean an annual GNI at market price, as provided by the Commission in application of Regulation (EU) No 549/2013 (ESA 2010)” – thereby installing the new European System of Accounts, except that pro temp contributions were to be based on ESA 95 because ESA 2010 had not been available at the time of the adoption of this Decision.

But, the Decision went on, “the contributions should be adapted as soon as all Member States have transmitted their data on the basis of ESA 2010”. “In the event that there are any amendments to ESA 2010 which entail a significant change in the level of GNI”, it then said, “the ceilings for own resources and for commitment appropriations should be adapted again”.

On this basis, it would appear that the Commission is wrong in claiming that ESA 2010 does not apply. Its own legislation says it does, and unless there is an unknown factor here, the new standard applies to the current figures and the adjustments.

Therefore, what I think has happened is that, guided by Directive 89/130/EEC, the UK and other Member States have revised their GNIs retrospectively using ESA 2010, which has given rise to the adjustments recorded. But it must also be remembered that the procedure requires Member States to calculate their own GNIs, and send the results to the Commission. This is not something the Commission does for us – we do it for ourselves.

Thus, as far as the awareness and the advance notice goes, my previous report would seem to be accurate (unless or until we see further developments).  The UK was informed that changes were in progress. It is unlikely that Mr Cameron can claim that the Commissions was not entitled to the money it is claiming, as the sum is based on data provided by the UK – presumably calculated by the ONS – in accordance with well-established procedures.

Since the ESA 2010 changes have been flagged up continuously, the UK government – and therefore Mr Cameron – can have no justification for saying they didn’t know what was coming.

Seldom though have I met a more complex scenario – where the Commission also seems to be getting it wrong. Even Mr Barroso didn’t seem to know what was going on. And that may just provide a small window of opportunity for Mr Cameron. It the Commission itself is all at sea, he could claim that it is unfair to expect him to know better.

Of course, his “Rolls-Royce” civil service could have told him, except that Rolls-Royce cars is now owned by the Germans. That is perhaps why Mrs Merkel was in the know and Mr Cameron wasn’t.

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What Goes Around Comes Around with UKIP Lies, Bullying & Distortion

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The Farage Cult clearly don’t like it when others behave just like them!

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just like the many blogs, Forums, web sites and the like that UKIP its agents or supporters of the Farage Cult have set up that harbour lies, distortions, fantasies and desperate efforts to defame people like me who relentlessly expose the undeniable racism, corruption, dishonesty, self interest, anti homosexuality of UKIP and those in the cult who have so resoundingly betrayed the electorate and stolen from the public purse on a near industrial level as they so befoul the name and aims of EUroScepticism.

Consider the endless lies and defamatory claims made regarding Nikki Sinclaire, Dr. Eric Edmonds, Junius, Dr. Richard North, John West, Alastaire McConnachie, Robin Page, Nikki Sinclaire, Petrina Holdsworth, Heather Connyngham, Niall Warry, Alan Hardy, Peter Troye, Steve Morson, Dr. David Abbott, Richard Suchorzevski, and many others who have tried to clean-up UKIP to make it fit for purpose.

To seek out many more they have defamed, abused and bullied CLICK HERE

Also check out the lies and distortions of low lifes and self serving scoundrels like Douglas Denny, Gerard Batten, Derek Clark, Mark Croucher, Mick McGough, Paul Nuttall, Anthony Butcher, John Ison, Annabelle Fuller, Peter Reeve, Tom Wise, Gawain Towler, Christopher Gill, Chris Mounsey, David Bannerman, Lord Pearson and their ilk.

I guess that is what one can expect from the scum that are attracted, in many cases, to the honey pots and gravy trains of politics where there is so much unaccountable money to access!

Just look at the pond life attracted to UKIP to ride on the gravy train just by following and applauding the Farage Cult – individuals who have been proven time and again to be liars, cheats, thieves and fantasists.

The one sure fact is that with this web site my name, telephone number, eMail address and home address are all well known and readily available and you can be absolutely certain that there is not a single solitary consequential error of fact on the entire site, as we all know how litigious UKIP can be, regardless of their undeniable dishonesty and distortion of facts to suit their pockets.

IF you have any doubts regarding the veracity of material on this site do not hesitate to check CLICK HERE and contact me directly if you identify any error and I will immediately make any consequential correction needed.

But clearly they don’t like it when people set out to treat them as they treat others!

Labour in Brussels behind ‘anonymous’ UKIP smear site.

A few years ago, an anonymous website called UKIP Watch sprung up, claiming to be ‘exposing’ UKIP. With a (very little) bit of digging, UKIPLiverpool was able to discover that the website had in fact been set up by a Labour party member in Brussels:

In the last few days it has begun to be shared around Facebook again, as a reminder of what we will come up against in the next few months.

With UKIP membership on the rise, and now that we regularly poll third place in the polls, we must look out for, and expose the lows that our opponents will stoop to to discredit us.

Labour and the Conservatives both know that they can’t attack us on our policies, as their attacks only serve to alienate the electorate more and more. They’re too stubborn to realise that the reason we are popular is because only we are in line with public opinion, so they won’t change their policies.

These under-the-radar attacks are going to look more appealing to those parties in the run up to the European elections, as we continue to make in-roads into areas that they consider ‘theirs’.

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Ever More See Farage’s Star as Fading & UKIP near its Zenith

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it will no doubt be hard for followers of Nigel Farage’s cult and the politically gullible to accept the veracity of the following article as clearly does not sing from the same hymn sheet as their great, and staggeringly isolated, great guru would lead them to believe.

One only has to look at just howmany people said guru has fallen out with and just what hold he has over many in his clique, similarly when we speak of isolation just how vulnerable he is to certain members of his inner retinue the moment he stopy holding the strings and is unable to use tax payers money to hand out inflated salaries and the prowess of over paid positions.

Nigel Farage is particularly poorly advised but then again those around him he has hand selected to ensure they only praise him and are no challenge to him, thus there is no one of sufficient caliber to be of any real use to him as due to his ruthless and unethical style they walk in fear of his ego centric temper and devious nature.

He gives himself away, even to the most naive, by his haste in defaming those who have broken free from his control or those who date to be either critical or ethical.

Rubbish though I may find much of what passes for journalism in the MSM and particularly in The Independent, The Guardian and the gutter press, it is hard to fault the conclusions drawn by Felicity Morse in the article that follows:

Ukip as much chance of winning
European elections as finding alien life on Mars,
say British public

Felicity Morse – MONDAY 27 JANUARY 2014

FARAGE, Nigel 83

Despite Nigel Farage’s prediction that the UK Independence party will cause an “earthquake” in British politics at the European Parliament elections, Britons give Ukip as much chance of winning as finding life on Mars.

Ipsos MORI’s research reveals what the British public think is likely to happen in 2014  compared with the odds offered by Ladbrokes.

Only three in ten think it is likely that they will be the largest party, the same as think the NASA Mars Rover will find evidence of life on Mars, according to the pollsters’ representative sample of 954 adults.

The research company note that the odds from Ladbrokes suggest people are way out on UKIP’s chances as despite this, Ukip are still the most popular bet by far to win the European elections.

According to Ladbrokes, 56 per cent of punters are putting their pounds on the party’s success.

Earlier in January, a YouGov poll showed Labour were in first place and the Tories in third.

However YouGov noted at the time that this didn’t mean Ukip wouldn’t win the European Elections, writing:  “In past euro-elections, Ukip’s support has increased as the election approaches.

If this pattern is repeated, Ukip is likely to overtake Labour by polling day.” Bobby Duffy, Managing Director of Ipsos MORI Social Research Institute said: “Predictions are very tricky – as we’ve seen recently, economists and government struggle with forecasting how the economy will do, and are often surprised by better or worse figures than expected. 

It’s therefore a bit tough to expect the public to have a clearer picture of the future on these sorts of issues – the “wisdom of crowds” clearly has limits.”

“But it also suggests big gaps in knowledge of some key issues… the lack of awareness of how possible UKIP being the largest party at the European elections is important, as it will be a greater surprise to people if it does happen.”
Nigel Farage disowned his entire 2010 election manifesto last week, saying it was “drivel” and that Ukip would release new ones after the Europeans Elections. He described David Campbell Bannerman, the man who wrote the policy discussion papers as an “idiot”.

Mr Bannerman, who has since defected to the Conservative Party to be a Tory MEP for Cambridge told the  BBC Radio 4’s The World Tonight: “It was a very serious paper but Nigel could not be bothered to read it, anything to do with policy and I’m afraid it’s not good enough for someone who’s trying to be or claims to be a serious political leader.

“It’s not a political party, it’s a pressure group. Because Nigel’s on the ropes, he’s lashing out in all directions.”

Mr Farage dismisses these claims, instead writing in The Independent:”Incidentally, the most contested seat in the eastern region is currently between these two candidates.

I know who I think will make the better MEP.”

 

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UKIP Flip Flop Policies in Cover-Up

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/11/2013

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UKIP Flip Flop Policies in Cover-Up as they take a leaf out of their extremist forbears with an episode of the modern day equivalent of book burning, to hide their band wagon jumping and vault face policy making!!

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Farage channels his inner Pol Pot

UKIP, the party keeps telling us, is not like all the other political parties.

Yet as the Conservative and Labour parties are coming in for justified criticism for trying to conceal their broken promises and ridicule-worthy releases by removing significant chunks of content from their websites and YouTube channels, UKIP has joined in the party political airbrushing of history with a Year Zero moment worthy of Pol Pot.

The party has, according to Bloomberg, wiped everything from its web archive prior to January this year and there is not a single Farage speech pre-dating March.  The story highlights a topical, apparent change of policy that has been erased as part of the disappeared UKIP 2010 election manifesto:

While the party now opposes the planned high-speed north-south rail line, the 2010 document advocated building three new routes. “We’re in the process of updating everything,” Heaver said by telephone. “We’re going through a policy review.”

We can but imagine on what other subjects UKIP is going to change tack now it thinks it has hidden its previous positions from scrutiny in an effort to avoid allegations of flip-flopping on policy.  It is becoming increasingly difficult to identify differences between the cynical mainstream party approach and the way Farage runs UKIP.  The long journey from idealistic mould-breaking party to full member of the establishment continues apace.

How long are UKIP members going to continue kidding themselves their party isn’t run in every bit as cynical a manner as the ones they profess to be so different from?

To view the original of this article CLICK HERE

To take just one simple to follow act of UKIP hypocrisy just follow how they set out with a clearly defined policy in their manifesto and note how that was quietly dropped to pander to the populist view to seek publicity and no doubt supporters riding on the back of a policy they were directly opposed to – without so much as a publicised debate or official announcement of their hypocritical and self serving vault face CLICK HERE.

It is not just disingenuous but downright dishonest and corrupt of UKIP to claim it is a libertarian party and non racist, when it is clearly authoritarian and controlled from the center by one man, mostly through his small clique of bullied and abused placements to ensure the absence of his finger prints on what is often criminal behaviour.

Do not forget the ever present mantra ‘UKIP is not a racist party’ which is patently untrue as one need only look at those Nigel Farage has allied his party with in the EU EFD Group, who are a rag tag of extremist racists, anti homosexuals, anti Jewish gutter sweepings of EU politics amongst whom are several convicted criminals found guilty in courts for their extreme political views, actions and comments.

Remember Farage not only founded the Pan EU EFD Political Group but also committed his party to supporting these low lifes – thereby prostituting UKIP for personal gain!

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Beneath that thin veneer of cheeky chappy, man of the people, with pint in hand is a drunkard, a bully and a ruthlessly devious hedonist – with his off shore tax haven bank accounts and team of foreign staff and unpleasant low lifes and deviants all controlled and bullied into compliance in return for bloated salaries from the public purse and positions and aspirations way beyond their abilities.

One need only note the standards of research of UKIP & its published lies and abuse of anyone who dares suggest they clean up their act. Their use of pseudonyms and false identities across the internet to lie and defame their critics is proof positive of just how unfit for public office UKIP is in general and their obvious support of theser low lifes and cowards is plain to see with its most senior executives giving them aid and from time to time joining in the lies and defamatory abuse.

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Farage & His Party Lurch From UKIP Disaster AGAIN

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Hi,I’m no fan of the modern unions and believe they are largely to blame for the rot of British society and its industries, stiffling entrepenuerial efforts and sponsoring the obscene excesses of the Labour Party. Labour like the unions would seem to be largely a scam for rather unpleasant people to exploit the gullible and enrich themselves, in a largely unprincipled manner5.

One only has to look at the vaste wealth Tony Blair created for himself by exploiting political privilege and opportunities or Arthur Scargill who took over a huge union whilst living in a small house with a modest car and exploited the system to create a much smaller and all but irelevant union whilst chauffer driven in an expensive car and living in a large house!

Such a common patern!

I also resent the corruption of the democratic process which has been achieved by unions just as with the various superstition groups in our country be tyhey the bronze age cults & constructs like Islam or christianity or the modern fashionable scams like Greens, Warmists and their odious ilk!

I declined to publish the article below when I first read it on the 13-Jul-2013 as I do not value the opinions of union leaders any more than I value those of prattling priests of whatever superstition! However the article thaty follows this first article adds rather more weright to the comments on UKIP, with which in isolation I largely disagree!

Secret Unite report calls UKIP a ‘pre-fascist’ party: McCluskey’s union says Miliband ‘panders’ to the Right – and plots more control over Labour

  • Scathing report written by former Unite political director Steve Hart
  • Says Labour is not doing enough to oppose ‘austerity’ cuts
  • Criticises Miliband for intervening in Falkirk selection row

By Simon Walters, Mail on Sunday Political Editor

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Warning: Steve Hart, a recent Unite political director, wrote the key report

Warning: Steve Hart, a recent Unite political director, wrote the key report

Nigel Farage’s anti-EU UKIP party has been condemned as ‘pre-fascist’ and ‘xenophobic’ in a secret report by Len McCluskey’s Unite union.

The report accuses Ed Miliband of ‘pandering’ to Right-wingers, calls Ed Balls ‘deeply disappointing’, says Labour is not doing  enough to oppose the Government’s ‘austerity’ spending cuts and ‘prevaricated’ over fighting the so-called ‘bedroom tax.’

It praises ‘brave’ rebel Labour MPs who defied Mr Miliband by voting against new laws to force the unemployed to take jobs.

It is scathing about the Labour leader’s decision to intervene in the row over claims that Unite tried to rig a Parliamentary selection contest in Falkirk, Scotland.

And it reveals how Unite is to spend £10,000 on up to 100 Labour target seats, focusing on union- backed candidates – with the campaigns run by Unite ‘constituency captains’ – to try to gain more influence over Labour policies after the next Election.

The document, seen by The Mail on Sunday, was written by Steve Hart, who has close links with the Labour leadership and was Unite’s political director until he left last month after a power struggle.

Mr Hart is a former aide to Ken Livingstone and the son of the late Judith Hart, a Left-wing Cabinet Minister who served in Labour governments in the 1960s and 1970s. The confidential report, submitted to a meeting of Unite’s political committee, launches a highly provocative attack on UKIP leader Nigel Farage, warning Mr Miliband not to ‘chase’ his party’s votes.

‘The UKIP vote represents a dangerous, populist Right-wing vote which is swayed by anti-immigrant and anti-European rhetoric – and nostalgia for a comfortable world that never really existed,’ it states.

‘These are all the hallmarks of pre-fascist movements – which is not to say that UKIP is fascist, because it isn’t, but to point to the dangers of ignoring them and the issues or attempting to chase them.’

General Secretary of Unite union Len McCluskey is in the midst of a bitter dispute with Labour leader Ed Miliband over the Falkirk selection battle

General Secretary of Unite union Len McCluskey is in the midst of a bitter dispute with Labour leader Ed Miliband over the Falkirk selection battle

Mr Hart adds: ‘The threat of xenophobic UKIP remains very real – in common with Right-wing populism and indeed fascism, which is growing dangerously across Europe.’

 

In the strongly-worded section on ‘anti-fascism’, the report deplores the ‘outpouring of racism’ over the murder of soldier Lee Rigby in Woolwich, adding: ‘Far too many, in the thrall of Islamophobia, sought to blame Islam. Yet rightly, no one blames Christianity for Jimmy Savile’s crimes.’

The disclosure of the report comes in the middle of a bitter dispute between Mr Miliband and Unite General Secretary Mr McCluskey over the Falkirk selection battle. The Unite-backed candidate, Karie Murphy, a close friend and ally of Mr McCluskey, was suspended from the Labour Party after claims that the union tried to rig the contest, a claim the union denies.

It prompted Mr Miliband to order major changes in Labour’s links with the unions. Defiantly, the union’s ‘General Election plan’ says that ‘in spite of current frustrations and anger’ in the wake of the Falkirk row, its ‘strategic purpose and direction remain clear’.

Slur: Nigel Farage's UKIP party supporters are described as dangerous

Slur: Nigel Farage’s UKIP party supporters are described as dangerous

It makes no attempt to conceal its lukewarm support for Mr Miliband, stating: ‘The worst Labour government is better than the best Tory government.’

It gives details of Unite plans to run its own campaign ‘cells’ in 100 Labour target seats, which will provide supporters with resources, including clothes.

‘Unite will build a structure based on one Constituency Captain and field organisers. The Constituency 10 will have responsibility for organising 10 contacts with each Unite member in the seat 20 months before the Election.’

The document makes it clear that despite its setback in Falkirk,  it remains determined to get as many pro-Unite Labour candidates as possible, and in secrecy,  if necessary.

‘Our work in selections is a bit like a swan, all that can be seen is indication of support here or there, while below the water, activity is furious.’

It says the activities of Unite’s political department is ‘dominated currently by candidate selection matters’, and it adds: ‘We  have had to park some areas of  work temporarily – selections wait for no one.’

To read the original article CLICK HEREIt is sad that UKIP with so sound a policy when they espoused Leave-The-EU has become so befouled and corrupt and utterly beredt of competent leadership, ethical standards and any gravitas with the unfortunate Nigel Farage, for all his talents as an entertainer, portrayed as something of a clown by the party he controls to promote him!

Populism may provide ‘shock’ results and publicity but showing ones leader as beset with his various doxies with an omni present, nay even mandatory, pint in hand as some sort of degenerate louthario is hardly meat for long term respect and results, compounded by promotion of his addiction to cigarettes and glee at breaking the law and like a small boy who tells juvenile toilet jokes Farage may get publicity being rude and offensive but he demeans democracy and undermines his own long term credibility.

That UKIP Press Office has a long list of liars, degenerates and criminals as its staff perhaps points the way to the source of his inept PR.

Just how inept the PR is is shown by the vile behaviour of its many faces with a few like Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher, Annabelle Fuller, Gawain Towler, Clive Page, Gulliford, Batten, Bloom and their ilk and the serial use of the corrupt influence of those who shelter their shame at their dishonesty and unpleasant efforts to denigrate & defame those who seek to expose the corruption and have adult conversations to try to make UKIP fit for purpose, by anonimising their output or using pseudonyms in their embarrassment.

Consider this article below where the Farage Party can not even agree on what excuses to use for their odious behaviour:

I was booted out of UKIP for my links to trade unions


Friday, July 19, 2013

A former UK Independence Party (UKIP) candidate in Devon, who followed Nigel Farage on his infamous tour of Scotland, claims to have been expelled for being a trade unionist.

David Smith, a retired teacher and bus driver who was in line to stand as an MEP, has branded his local Exeter branch a “renegade” operation and appealed to the colourful leader to “sort it out”.

Mr Smith, 64, who braved what Mr Farage branded as anti-English protests in Aberdeen and Edinburgh, said he was told his continued membership of the National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers (RMT) was a case of “mixed loyalties”.

The party has angrily rejected the accusations as “fictional” and “ludicrous” – claiming it has growing support among disgruntled former Labour voters – and said Mr Smith’s membership was simply not renewed because he was “not a team player”.

UKIP has become a political force to be reckoned with this year, taking a 23.2% share of the overall vote to gain four seats on Devon County Council for the first time in May. But in Exeter, where Labour won two seats, taking their tally to seven, the party failed to make an impact on Labour or the Tories, who hold the remaining two seats.

Mr Smith was hoping to be selected to become a candidate for the European Parliament in 2015 until he received a letter dated June 17, from Devon-based party chairman Steve Crowther, declining his application to renew his membership and refunding his subscription.

Mr Crowther blamed the refusal on “repeated and sustained round-robin e-mails” making “all kinds of allegations”. “These allegations have been fully investigated and found to have no basis, yet the e-mails have continued,” he wrote.

Mr Smith claims the decision to exclude him should be taken by the National Executive Committee. He said there was an “unofficial policy” against union members, adding: “I want to stay in UKIP to fight EU domination but I have been pushed out – my question to Nigel is are you going to sort it out?”

In a reply to Mr Crowther’s letter, he added: “After travelling to the other end of the UK, canvassing and delivering leaflets in the housing estates of Aberdeen in the run up to the Don by-election where I actively supported our candidate Otto Inglis and Party leader against vociferous demonstrators, some of which were anti-fascists – this was some reward.”

UKIP South West spokesman James Carver said: “Mr Smith’s membership application was not renewed due to circumstances surrounding a breach of electoral law, and his failure to address that important issue to the satisfaction of the local branch committee, when challenged.

“The allegations in his letter are clearly misplaced and inaccurate – UKIP has many trade unionists as members, and at no time whatsoever was he censured for any trade union activity or membership. This is just sour grapes from a former member, who would not work as part of a team, at a time when UKIP is going from strength to strength.”

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‘Prober’ is likely to be defamed by UKIP’s Toxic Claque

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/08/2012

‘Prober’ is likely to be defamed by UKIP’s Toxic Claque

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

‘Prober’ is likely to be defamed by UKIP’s Toxic Claque!
I expect he works for MI5 or MI6 or is funded by The EU or The Tory Party & how much is he being paid – We should be told!

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such a pity that ‘Prober’ lacked the conviction or perhaps self confidence to put his name to the very clear and largely spot on accurate posting he has made, on Anthony Butcher’s corrupt little UKIP controlled forum – where any lie is accepted from the UKIP gutter snipes with their faux pretence of manners as they sneer and snipe, whilst themselves all too often too cowardly and ashamed to put their names to their vile comments and duplicitous distortions.
You can hear it all lined up:
He works for MI5 or The CIA or The EU and no one would tell the truth unless they were paid, and any other vile distortion from the underbelly of politics that we have heard time and again, so damagingly for UKIP, from its odious claque.
No – whatever the pond life from UKIP comes out with it is clear they can not reasonably with any intelligent presentation or intellectual gravitas refute or even put a sound point of view to counter ‘Prober’s’ statements of irrefutable fact.
UKIP has a broad “out ” aim but seems to have no strategy or pathway or campaign aims and no real strategic measures of success of stepping stones to achieving “out”.
For example it rates gaining more MEPs as a major success achievement but has never had any plan to focus the time resources and £ of MEPs to actually do anything to further ” out” ( Hence most MEPs being engaged in irrelevant displacement activity and Marta fiddling on committees in Brussels, with UKIP’s Brussels success ticked off as achieved by winding up Gollum in Brussels) .
So getting more MEPs doesnt necessarily mean ANY advance in success in achieving “out” ( even if UKIP won all MEP seats and the mega £ that goes with it )

Winning local authority seats is rated as success but UKIP has no idea what it wants to do in those seats either to advance “out” or advance a domestic political aim.

Getting a higher % vote is rated as success and the publicity that goes with it but that is only a success if it puts fear in other parties to stop them doing things to advance the EU cause .

UKIP has no MP failure targetted pressure/publicity strategy focussed on key stages ( eg EU budget or parliament nodding through more EU legislation ) to install such fear.
Is there any evidence that UKIP has influenced ANY of Cameron’s Europhile decisions ? If so UKIPs web site would be crowing about it not just moaning about whats going on.

Scoring higher % potentially puts fear into Europhile MPs that UKIP will target and embarrass them for their remaining term in office and install realisation in Tory branches that UKIP is going to lose them their seat at the next election unless they select a EU sceptic Tory candidate .

UKIP has no such “make life miserable” targeting .

Very small parties like SWP achieve influence by infiltration into other other parties .

UKIP has no infiltration strategy.

A success aim would be a high level of public understanding and approval of

a) What EU does and why EU is bad for their pockets and health
b) the legal pathway to a referendum on out and legislation to achieve out
c) A vision for and how UK would operate successfully politically economically and in trade after achieving out
d) A vision of what a new “progressive” EU would look like after return of powers to national democracy
e) What UKIP’s role would be after “out”. UKIP does none of these education things ( and historically says public education is not its job even to the extent it cant be bothered to design it own schools pack to replace the EU one )

At present press talk is of Farage offering not to put up candidates to oppose EU sceptic candidates but except for very few, Tory EU sceptic MPs have always rolled over when the whips say “jump” so having neutralised itself how does this strategically advance UKIP’s aim of “out” ? (Cameron wont allow joint candidates)

The effect of UKIP standing in all seats at a general election under its classic hand off statement of  “all other parties are just the same ” will be Labour winning the general election with its Europhile candidates not exposed or threatened by UKIP.

Fair enough but whats the strategic plan in all this to further the cause of “out” with Labour winning ?
How will it make more likely Labour will commit to a referendum ?
For example there is major opportunity to challenge the anti democracy position of the Europhile anti UKIP bigoted far left in Labour and make the case of national democracy being consistent with patriotic democratic socialist principles and work and family based values.

UKIP seems more a lazy sham party with members as lemmings following the leader wherever he points, with phony yardsticks of success , riding on macro events in its favour which give it a phony approval rating as the only protest vote party of significance , and actually deliberately detached from what is really needed to make a political impact .

So whats UKIP’s real aim ?

To destroy and replace the Tory Party ?
To that UKIP will really have to get serious .
To keep NF as leader doing his thing and having a wonderful time unchallenged as long as poss ?
To get the Tory party to offer NF a safe seat as MP to neutralise UKIP ?
To put enough fear and pressure on the Tory Party to ditch Cameron turn round and do the right thing …. again UKIP will really have to start to get serious … especially on infiltration.

An alternative out route would be to build a Pan Europe “out” movement electing “out” MEPs to achieve change from within .

NF seems to want this but cant carry his party with him.

UKIP, whilst claiming “most people agree with us” has never tried to connect with the public as a domestic party ( hence disastrous results at Buckingham and in London) or as a Respect route protest vote party, and thus has no prospect of winning an MP seat.

Hence the route to “success” will be achieving like minded MPs being elected in Labour & Tory parties. ( Lib Dems being totally opposed to national sovereign democracy )

In summary therefore other than ” existing because it exists” and congratulating itself on “success” whats UKIP for ? and what is its pathway and strategic plan to achieve it ?

To view the original article CLICK HERE
All on a thread titled ‘What Do UKIP Stand For’ I submit one only needs to read the postings of the UKIP leadership supporters on that very thread to realise!
UKIP stands for the very worst form of gutter politics, playground level bullying, corruption and dishonesty – based largely upon the self interests of a small clique of self serving, self enriching low lifes who are defended by a claque of cowardly, dishonest wannabes funded from  or encouraged by the riches of The Gravy Train, which are in the gift of Nigel Farage.
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What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians,  and Snivil Cervants having conveniently forgotten that they are our servants and not our masters as taxation has inexorably climbed to fund their ambitions and the value of money has diminished as the publish ever more to cover-up their incompetences all enforced by the new style self serving and politicised enforcers The Police aided by increasingly corrupted Courts.

Astonishingly this odious betrayal of OUR Country and its values is aided and colluded in by the MSM as entertainment so readily plunges ever further to the gutter creating people who become famous for the size of their rewards and their notoriety as ‘celebs’!.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, as even if ALL Britain’s MEPs agreed and were of one party they amount to less than 8% of the input and a miniscule proportion of decision making!

Clearly The EU is set up to ensure its very size and diversity ensures democracy is self cancelling and ever more power falls into the hands of the unelected self styled and utterly corrup elite – None of whom have one iota of democratic mandate to back their corrupt social engineering and EUgenics.

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Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In over 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that goal, despite their claimed unanimity of aim!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country, Anglosphere and indeed planet which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Self evidently ‘The Harrogate Agenda‘ may not be the answer but that men and women are responsibly striving to create a better system for a better world deserves all the help we can give it whether with ideas, participation or merely our support.

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Greg L-W.
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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

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