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UKIP changes so very little in its self interests!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 15/07/2013

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UKIP changes so very little in its leadership’s self interests and the dishonesty & cowardly supporters it attracts!!!


Hi,it is surprising just how little changes in UKIP world – I was reminded of this when I received a comment on my blog to a posting I made in 2009 – all that seems to have changed is the addition of other low lifes in support of UKIP be they criminals who perverted our Parliamentary democracy like Neil Hamilton or failed alcoholics who brought shame on their party and the Government itself like Rod Richards or the caliber of cowards sheltering behind anonymity too ashamed to put their name to their sneering, insulting and demeaning style of defending UKIP’s behaviour be they ‘Skeptyk’, ‘Independent UKIP’, ‘FKEU’, ‘Baron von Lotsov’ ‘SteveUK’, all of whom have in their own way deeply damaged UKIP amongst those who read their squalid postings on the odious Anthony Butcher’s UKIP controlled Forum.

Just see just how little has changed in the style of UKIP leadership and its unpleasant followers and self seekers:



Saturday morning – chucking it with rain & Lee & I missed out on Ruth’s birthday bash last night having been let down by builders YET AGAIN!!

Dealing with a long conversation related to CLICK HERE I decided to read Anthony Butcher’s squalid Forum and see what he, Brendan Padmore & Richard Allen had been told to do to maintain the lies and deceptions of EUkip.

Many of you will remember the pack of lies from Farage’s unelected puppet Paul Nuttall i now note on a glance through the membership lists that Paul NuttAll can’t even remember how to spell his own name and has registered twice – once spelling it Nutall and then as Nuttall!! Clearly his memory is as deeply flawed as his honesty, morality and legal advice! To save the ghastly bullying and dishonest little parasite further embarrassment it seems Butcher has deleted some of his lies.

I note also they have deleted the postings where I proved beyond all shadow of doubt that Paul Nuttall or if he would rather Nutall was a bully and a liar on numerous counts – it does rather call into question the entire structure of Anthony Butcher’s dishonest and corrupt Forum making it ever clearer that he and several of his moderators like Brendan Padmore are totally untrustworthy and undeniably dishonest complicit in the lies and corruption of EUkip and its dishonest bag carriers and fixers like Nuttall, Mark Croucher, Douglas Denny, Joshua Onion, Annabelle Fuller, Michael McGough and their grubby ilk.

It speaks volumes of EUkip that they permit Mark Croucher to vomit forth his distortions and bile on the Forum as their official spokesman in Brussels – whatever devious methods they have used and in whatever underhand way they have found to make it possible to deny employment in that capacity. Do not forget Farage has structured deniable employment for his ‘chosen ones’ in the past – remember when there was the pack of lies from Farage endorsing the drivel from Annabelle Fuller in The Independent and The Daily Mail – both stories having been dishonest and totally unsubstantiated in any independent way – just sloppy lazy journalism.

That Annabelle Fuller continued in the indirect and deniable employ of EUkip is undeniable and the reason why John Wittaker resigned as chairman, playing straight into Farage’s hands as he appointed his puppet Nuttall. Farage then tried to get Fuller a job with his chums at The Tax Players’ Alliance but I gather they were just a little too bright however The Royal British Legion were not and kept her on until they discovered from one of their branch chairmen just what a sordid individual Annabelle Fuller is I hear. It is probable that The The Army Benevolent Fund CLICK HERE
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will find employing her as embarrassing as did The Royal British Legion!

It does rather looks like Butcher & Padmore have found their level in life – cleaning up the excrement left befouling the tracks of EUkip and providing a platform for it to be used to smear and befoul honest decent people.

It does look rather as if John West has become sickened at the vile behaviour of Croucher and finally has published some home truths on the risibly titled British Democracy Forum – I expect it won’t be long before Butcher, Oadmore, Allen or one of the other corrupt fixers remove this posting to protect EUkip and Croucher – something they never do to protect Eric Edmond, Niall Warry, John West, David Abbott or myself.

You will note that I was banned for LIFE for stating the irrefutable FACT, for which corroborative evidence was provided, that Peter Reeve, EUkip’s Regional Organiser, was under investigation by the Police for assault. Subsequently I hear he actually has a conviction for GBH some 18 months ago, however I concede this is only hearsay evidence though provided from 3 separate sources in written form and by two people verbally. Perhaps this is why he is so reticent in supplying a CRB to the school where he is a governor or the Council where he was recently elected. I wonder what his extended CRB would reveal!

I must say I am surprised he was so foolish as to have assaulted someone and had a conviction for GBH – I believe a caution would be much more likely when the truth comes out – unless of course he has a string of similar previous convictions. I doubt the assault was in a fight with Duffy as to who used the soap! I gather Detol would be a better place to start!

I gather there are rudimentary plans afoot for Bannerman to use his allowances to acquire a large house in the Cambridge area where there are a lot of students and for him to move in and live with Peter – I prersume EUkip will employ Peter in a more apposite role as janitor and give Duffy and the team of EUkip yoooof she is breeding accomodation as housekeeper. I wonder if Tom Wise will be employed as cleaner once his delaying tactics with Courts are over! Well for sure Duffy wouldn’t be keen on the job. Gollom could be used to kill and eat the cats in the grounds! If there is spare accomodation I expect Stuart Agnew could fill it with migrant labour as a way to undercut British wages. If it needs doing up Knapman can fill the attics with imigrant builders but I hear the family people traffiking business is not doing well – perhaps this could kick start it!
Well lets see what The British Democracy Forum has to say about John West’s statement – I’ve gone through it and at a glance I can not see anthing out of step as he is merely seeking to defend himself against the vile personalised attacks made on him on the platform Butcher and his corrupt cronies provide at The British Democracy Forum:

Today, 11:43 AM #1 (permalink)
Senior Member

Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 1,480
Party: None

Croucher’s dishonest claim – in answer


That you are able to fabricate a so-called screen print is of total disinterest to me as you have a track record as a serial liar with a record of dishonesty from lies to the media, lies to the Press complaints Commission, lies to radio, lies to members, lies to readers of The Independence – lies about candidates, lies about supporters and lies about members live and dead. An odious and untrustworthy individual who has deliberately lied by omission and commission to mislead people.

You even see fit to repeat the lie that my small claims was thrown out as an abuse of the court process going so far as to claim dishonestly to quote a Judge who was not even present and fabricating a quote never made.

You are a past master of abuse, smears, misrepresentation and half-truths. You have a track record of tampering with computer records hence your lies about Piers Merchant when you knew, as a terminally ill man, he would not expose your vile behaviour and obvious dishonesty.

That B. Padmore can justify your latest insults as ‘banter’ speaks volumes for his impartiality and integrity, not to mention the gutter level he finds acceptable for this forum a standard which clearly suits you Fuller and other staff and supporters of EUkip.

Croucher’s behaviour has been consistently distasteful and the way he has abused this forum in order to smear and lie about good people has been disgraceful.

You have repeatedly brought the eurosceptic cause into disrepute with your constant lies. That this has been done for your own self-interest is clear.

You are a low grade fixer for a collection of self-centred, self serving, fifth rate, pretend politicians. The recent £¾ million Elcom fiasco confirms their utter incompetence and third rate status.

You even went as far to smear a man dying of cancer. You are beneath contempt and belong in the gutter with the other EUKIP vermin who have done so much damage to UKIP and euroscepticism. Clearly dedicating your energies and malign talents to attacking anyone who tried to expose the corruption and bring integrity to the fight to get Britain out of the EU.

Mr. Croucher you are a liar, a cheat and a disgrace to euroscepticism even stooping to fabricate false evidence as you try to smear people who have tried their best to clean up UKIP. Tried their best to introduce decent values, tried their best to expose the corruption.

The statement you claim as your proof falls on the first count as a fabrication – on the date you used it is no more than proof of the fact that on that date I had received no money from anyone relating to any defence fund or similar.

Let me state one more time for the dishonest and the corrupt: What money or monies were or were not received and who from in a private manner is absolutely none of your business or anyone else save those who are directly involved. However what happened to possibly as much as £10 million which seems to have been all but industrially stolen by a small cabal of crooks who have lied, cheated, dissembled, misled and squirmed to cover-up their crimes endlessly attacking the messengers to hide their own involvement.

These thefts and frauds and serial dishonesties, in abuse of trust and public office, are a matter for each and every one of us both as members, past and present, and as tax payers, supporters and donors. I can understand as the errand boy of the corrupt they need someone more vile to front their cover-up and it does seem that Croucher, McGough and their cronies are ideal for such serial bullying and dishonesty.

What a mad day – endless phone calls! I started this at about 12:00hrs. and finally post it at almost 16:00hrs. but tomorrows story in The Sunday Times will be interesting when you think just how many enemies EUkip has made there is clearly nothing simple – I wonder if it was Croucher, he supplies data about EUkip members to outside organisations and we know there is nothing he would not stoop to! There is clearly no honour amongst these political low lifes.

EDITED 17:20hrs.

Why am I not surprised!

vBulletin Message

You have been banned for the following reason:

Started another attack thread, attacked another forum member, attacked a moderator and accused UKIP of stealing £10 million without providing any proof.

Date the ban will be lifted: 07-11-2009, 12:00 PM

Well won’t EUkip be pleased with their obedient servants – though I notice that the particular goffer lacked the integrity to put his name to this latest shamefull action.

It is a very happy coincidence that I was on line and spotted the posting before it was taken down – Butcher and his corrupt cronies can not thus hide their duplicity as a result.

It is staggeringly dishonest to try to pretend that this squalid little Forum reflects ANYTHING British represents ANY Democracy or is in any meaningfull way a Forum!

Let us look at the actual dishonesty of their pretence at justice EUkip style:

You have been banned for the following reason:

Reason clearly doesn’t enter into this as Croucher published and kept going a thread specifically set up to dishonestly smear John West myself and others – aided by the other running dogs of EUkip dirty squad.

That no ‘Reason’ pertains is clear as the entire thread remains including the smears yet John West has not only been unable to clear his name he has not been able to respons with facts.

Started another attack thread, attacked another forum member,

Clearly this is NOT true – John West has clearly found he was denied the right to defend himsel against more unpleasant lies and innuendo from EUkip’s OFFICIAL spokesman Mark Croucher (I do accept the employer may not be EUkip themselves but his employ is the DIRECT result of his hold over Farage and his vile personality being of use to defend the vile behaviour of EUkip – he would not hold the job had EUkip failed to get anyone on the gravy train).

John West CLEARLY was merely defending himself against endless personalised and derogatory claims.
No attack on a moderator was made – a series of opinions were stated just as when moderators have upheld attacks on John West claiming they were opinions. That these vile moderators have refused to uphold complaints and have provided a platform for lies, abuse, dishonesty and foul language actual and implied is a fact – herein John West has merely acted WITHIN the spirit of moderation used against him in support of EUkip’s goffers and spokesmen.

and accused UKIP of stealing £10 million without providing any proof.

Another dishonest claim by the EUkip staff – I do hope they pay you well for your dishonesty. John West made no such accusation. Firstly UKIP is a registered political party which is now largely defuncy having been hijacked by a small band of apparent crooks and low lifes and more accurately badged EUkip who are in alliance in a new Pan EU Political Party group in association with violent outspoken racists, xenophobes and sexually intollerant anti Jewish bigotts.

That those who have subverted UKIP for their own gain have to a man failed to speak out in protest at their allegiance speaks volumes of their utter lack of decency and morality and that Searchlight’s agent Croucher is working with these undeniable racists speaks volumes of Searchlight and UAF also!

It is utterly reasonable to state therefore that EUkip is a racist, violent, xenophobic, sexually intollerant, anti Jewish party in the light of its known associates.

Further it is a known fact that EUkip has failed to provide transparent accounts, that its present leader is a proven liar and that seemingly huge amounts of money have gone missing unaccountably including the present leader being involved in £250,000 of tax payers’ money having vanished on a petition which never took place; £211,000 being over 50% of the income of Farage’s South East office being listed as ‘other expenses’ in the accounts in such a manner as to seem the money was ‘trousered’, huge amounts of money would seem to have vanished via Ashford, also £250,000 paid into a private bank account and another sum of £200>250,000 paid into Farage’s off shore account, large amounts of money seemingly laundered through private credit card machines, lotteries, wine scams and the like – Farage even boasted of having made over £2M on expenses and huge amounts are under investigation by OLAG we understand.

I would contend that it was entirely reasonable of John West to opine:

However what happened to possibly as much as £10 million which seems to have been all but industrially stolen by a small cabal of crooks

Clearly a perfectly legitimate opinion based upon the known facts. This is an opinion subject of course to refutation by the alleged miscreants and IF they are able to prove John West’s opinion to be an exageration then clearly it is up to him to either appologise and openly state his opinion was wrong or take the consequences.

I believe that EUkip’s MEPs and staff have trousered well in excess of £10Million either by way of theft, fraud, overclaims or diversion and I include monies trousered in dishonest but legitimised expenses paid.

Date the ban will be lifted: 07-11-2009, 12:00 PM

With no name put to the ban, no contact available, no ability to use PM no right of reply and no acceptable honesty or Justice from Butcher and his corrupt crew of EUkip goffers.


What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

The comment and my response that prompted this posting were as follows:

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midsummer said

Great post however , I was wanting to know if you could write a litte more on this
subject? I’d be very grateful if you could elaborate a little bit further. Thank you!



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let us not forget that when you made this comment and asked this question in July-2013 the post in question of Oct-2009 had received many, many additional details in subsequent postings and that this blog/website has well over 2,000 separate postings, all adding small details to the facts of the posting of 2009!

You may find the posting of 14-Jul-2013 is of some help!

If you wish by all means call me directly but you will appreciate that my phone will not receive calls from witheld numbers and for me to respond to your questions you will of course be expected to establish your real identity as I do not deal with cowards who shelter behind anonymity as do many of UKIP’s staff and aspirants.






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