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>GP – RN: A Personalised Example Of Ukip’s Endemic Corruption

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/12/2014

>GP – RN: A Personalised Example Of Ukip’s Endemic Corruption
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>GP – RN: Richard North gives A Personalised Example Of Ukip’s Endemic Corruption and shows just how long and how widely the corruption has existed in Ukip.

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Hi,
further to m,y post regarding this widely covered presentation of Ukip’s endemic corruption CLICK HERE, which was in both the blogosphere and the legacy media,
Richard North has shown there is nothing new about this Ukip corruption of basic democratic principles and their unethical rigging of selection processes and elections, both internally as a party and thus corrupting UK elections, North has given details of his own direct experience and then the desperate and dishonest efforts of Ukip to try to belittle and denigrate his factual reporting of such matters.
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Wednesday 3 December 2014

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The trouble with doing reviews of Times pieces is that they are behind the paywall, so you can’t just link to them and rely on the reader to click-through to get the details, thereby only having to publish the bare bones of the story. You have to post virtually the whole thing, which sometimes means giving more emphasis to a story than it merits.

This would have been the case with this not very important story, albeit on the front page (above). It’s about UKIP rigging their own selection procedures for MEP candidates. Fortunately, though, the Independent has run it, which means I don’t have to go into the detail.

The reason I needed to mention it at all is to make a quick point, as part of a more general piece about Ukip, correcting what appears to be a standard attack briefing that party supporters use to libel me on comment threads, in a usually forlorn attempt at character assassination.

The claim is made that I resigned the party “before I was pushed”, after the election of Godfrey Bloom as Yorkshire Region MEP in 2004. To stop this falsehood spreading it, I have to rebut it. In fact, I resigned in 2003, in protest at the way the selection procedure had been rigged, and the way Farage, with the complicity of David Lott, then party chairman, quite deliberately blocked the appeal which could have set aside this selection and put me in pole position.

It is the case, therefore, that Ukip has been rigging its selection processes for many years, which partly explains why so many of the current batch of MEPs are such dross. Any such assertion from me, though, brings forward the accusation that I hold a “grudge” against The Dear Leader – so it is useful to have the legacy media detail other examples of rigged selection – doubtless because it too has a “grudge”.

Actually, no one who knows me would ever suggest that I had such a base relationship with a man with whom I shared a desk for four years, and for whom I wrote speeches. Life is far too short. And even if I had become a Ukip MEP, I would almost certainly have resigned over the embarrassing Kilroy debacle, so the past hasn’t been changed that much. Right now, I would still be out on my own.

Rather than a grudge, what I do have is the most profound contempt for Farage – the calm, icy sort. Any passion has long gone. And that’s actually a very different thing. Outside the cult, his incompetence, dishonesty and other less than savoury personal attributes do not really support any other view, but above all else, his attempts actively to block policy development have to be the most important reasons for regarding him in such an unfavourable light.

Overall, this “rolling dysfunction” is holding back the party and threatens to bring down the entire anti-EU movement. An example of the immediate effects are picked up by Dr Eric Edmund, a perceptive critic of Ukip and its leader. He links to yet another train-wreck interview, this one with current chairman, Steve Crowther, graphically illustrating the policy chaos that exists within the party.

This is chaos which intensifies by the hour, after Farage disowned a policy on camera, despite it having been minted by deputy leader Nutall at the Doncaster conference in September – of which Farage was apparently unaware. That left him to admit he had “misspoken“, after being forced to acknowledge that the policy on sex education remained party policy.

However, frequenting – as one does – the occasional comment thread, I recently had my own personal epiphany, coming to the realisation that Ukip’s root problem is that its people don’t even understand what policy is. Even with the benefit of a thoroughly-grounded seminar in the principles of policy-making, I asserted, they wouldn’t understand what they were being told, much less be able to put it into practice.

What, in essence, the party is producing is a list of aspirations rather than policies. The core failure is the lack of any connection between what they want to happen, and the means of making those things happen, in such a way that one can be assured that the outcomes are deliverable. This confusion between aspiration and policy means that the party can never progress to a state of coherence.

Party supporters, on the other hand (and not entirely unreasonably), point to the similar inadequacies of the established parties. But this simply highlights the further failure to understand the nature of politics. It is for the challengers, with no track record, to demonstrate their capabilities. Conventionally, this is done through the mechanism of policy statements – something which Ukip has so far failed to do.

Over the months to come, this failing will become increasingly evident, as Mr Cameron unveils his “play”, with which he seeks to undermine and eventually destroy the upstart. Putting together a series of technical measures, complete with some theatrical contrast provided by apparently obstructive Poles, he will attempt to do this by delivering a policy which shows that he has the potential to control immigration from within the EU.

On the other hand, Ukip – despite making immigration its core issue, eliding it with its anti-EU sentiment – has failed yet to deliver a credible (or any) policy on how it would control immigration from outwith the EU.

It has failed in this context to realise that “controlling our borders” is not a policy, per se, but an aspiration – and a wholly unrealistic one at that. As long as the UK admits 34 million visitors to this country each year – the majority without visas – it has effectively ceded perimeter control, the system then relying on other layers and stratagems.

The party might be better off calling for control over immigration policy. That is an altogether more realistic and focused aspiration than “controlling and managing our borders”, which it currently tells us it would seek to do. The act or process of “controlling and managing” is exactly that – an act or process – a means to an end. In policy terms, it is meaningless without declared objective and then the detail of how the controlling and managing would be done.

Nor indeed does it help having Ukip telling us that: “We will extend to EU citizens the existing points-based system for time-limited work permits”. That does not begin to constitute a policy. Nor even is it, in itself, a component of a policy.

To have the makings of a policy, the putative policy would have to be directed to, and linked with, a specific objective or outcome. It would then have to be couched in such terms as to make it clear that it could contribute to the declared objective – whatever that might be. Any system or process, as such, is blind – and has as much a capability to obstruct as support any particular policy line.

But where the real policy wonks play is in co-ordination – the thing known more commonly as “joined up policy”. The “perfect” policy is one thing, but can get a little bit raggy when you have to take other considerations into account. For instance, you might well come up with the best in highly-polished defence policies, only to have it fall apart when your foreign policy delivers you enemies you didn’t want, didn’t expect and can’t fight – a bit like UK policy really.

Here, the rank amateurism of Ukip comes to the fore, best evident when one reads that: “UKIP would not seek to remain in the European Free Trade Area (EFTA) or European Economic Area (EEA) while those treaties maintain a principle of free movement of labour, which prevents the UK managing its own borders”.

Now here one must recall that Ukip hasn’t actually declared what it is trying to achieve, and we also know that “managing” borders is not a policy as such, but a process. So we end up with a political party that is prepared to ditch a proven and workable trade relationship because it interrupts an indeterminate process aimed at an undefined effect, with no specified outcome.

In this event, we are open to the suggestion that Ukip may be well-motivated and be seeking a desirable outcome. But since the party has neither defined its preferred outcome nor any credible means by which it might achieve it, we can be excused from accepting that it has any policies.

Meanwhile, we can see Mr Cameron’s policy being rolled out, the overall objective undeclared but loosely translated as “stuff Ukip”. Helping in this noble endeavour are his allies who are talking down immigration. They are also rubbishing the “Norway option”, something they have in common with Ukip – which must tell you something.

Meanwhile, we have the entertaining prospect of theatrical Poles, providing the backcloth for Mr Cameron’s stunning victory to come. The harder he has to battle, the better and more convincing he will look.

If Ukip had policies, of course, it would be easier to assess Mr Cameron’s games, by reference to what Ukip had on offer. One would simply compare what is with what could be. That’s the way politics is supposed to work. Poor Ukip, though, hasn’t discovered this yet – and Farage never will. If his party grows up, things might be different but, for the moment, contempt seems in order for the Peter Pan of politics.

Richard North 03/12/2014

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Ukip’s Corruption Is Endemic & Hardly News!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/12/2014

Ukip’s Corruption Is Endemic & Hardly News!
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Hi,
you will note details of corruption in Ukip and of internal rigging and dishonesty in Ukip’s internal selection and election processes that show it is endemic – you may remember the detailed example shown by the Ukip returning Officer that exposed the corruption of the process and the involvement of officers of the party, including Christopher Gill and others CLICK HERE.
Then of course there are many resignation letters of well informed elected officers of the party such as:
Richard Suchorzewski CLICK HERE
John West CLICK HERE
Niall Warry CLICK HERE
Douglas Denny CLICK HERE
etc.
You will note from Douglas Denny’s letter of resignation he boasts of having detailed evidence of the criminality in Nigel Farage’s party, which as we all know is managed by Nigel Farage on a very hands on basis using his personal appointees, such as Douglas Denny, to corrupt processes to obtain the results he personally required!
I always believed that it was a criminal offence to fail to report crime and thus I wonder when Douglas Denny will be called to account on criminal charges.
 TIMES - Ukip Rig Elections 01TIMES - Ukip Rig Elections 02-Dec-2014 - 02
Then again we know that Nigel Farage’s doxy Annabelle Fuller acted on his behalf to rig elections whether in her corrupt move to belittle John West as a candidate by breech of data protection laws posting a confidential video on You Tube, a matter about which she lied, lies which led to lies from Nigel Farage and the resignation of John Wittaker MEP’s resignation as chairman.
Or as portrayed in Julia Langmaid’s letter:
LANGMAID, Julia 01 - Letter 31-07-2010
 Also seek out the details, all of which are covered on this web site, of John Wittacker MEP’s depature as Chairman or that of Chris Pain, Mike Nattrass MEP, or the lies of Ukip surrounding the departure of Jasna Badzak or Nikki Sinclaire MEP, Dr. David Abbott, Dr. Eric Edmonds, Roger Knappman MEP & Leader, Martin Hasslam, Petrina Holdsworth Chairman, Marta Andreasen MEP, David Bannerman MEP, John Petley (unless it paid!) and many many more who quit in disgust at the corruption in Nigel Farage’s party, which he has operated over many years as a one man fiefdom with absolute control. A control which with the help of Douglas Denny and other ‘placemen’ he  enshrined in the corruption of the party constitution and rule book.
The media has also covered details of positions on MEP selection lists purchased by candidates in some detail previously!
Nigel Farage’s mask – the affable chappy in the pub act is clearly slipping
FARAGE, Nigel  104one can hear him already either blaming everyone else and accepting no responsibility for the actions of the party he has controlled, in every aspect, since Alan Sked left in disgust, or taking a leaf out of the book of his chums in the BNP, who are I note now openly backing him as do the EDL and other extremists, racists and the self serving!
He is more than likely to try to claim this is just a Government smear or the establishment trying to damage the party because, he will claim, it is doing so well.
This is of course just the dishonest spin of politics, as one can tell by even a glance at the facts and a small amount of research of the many key people in Ukip that Farage has fallen out with and just how implacable are their enemies who their dishonesty, corruption and offensive behaviour has done so much to earn.

Ukip ‘massaging’ selection process

Ukip’s selection process has been manipulated to allow the leadership to install favoured candidates, it has been claimed.

Leaked emails reveal a raft of concerns about the way the system in Nigel Farage’s party has been operated, including suggestions it has been “massaged by an internal clique to suit pre-determined outcomes”.

Psychometric tests, interviews and assessments were used by the party to weed out potential problem candidates ahead of the campaign for the May’s elections to the European parliament.

 
Ukip's leadership manipulated the party's selection process, it is claimed

Ukip’s leadership manipulated the party’s selection process, it is claimed

According to emails seen by The Times, Andrew Moncrieff, a member of the party’s governing committee, claimed it had turned into “another classic Ukip behind closed doors selection”.

He wrote last year: “There is the question of whether the final scores were massaged by an internal clique to suit pre-determined outcomes.

“What started out as an attempt to produce a transparent, equitable system has turned into another classic Ukip behind closed doors selection.”

Mr Moncrieff asked why “paid party lackeys have done surprisingly well” and raised the prospect of the involvement of “Nigel’s henchmen”.

Ukip deputy chairman Neil Hamilton claimed the list of candidates contained “manifest absurdities” in a private email, according to the newspaper.

“As you can imagine, I’m not pleased with the MEP selection process,” Mr Hamilton wrote. “Yet again, things have not been thought through properly and badly executed.”

In one email exchange, Will Gilpin, the party’s former chief executive, wrote: “When I saw the (MEP selection) list I concluded that the party doesn’t really want to change, that the same sycophancy will be the driving force.”

Mr Moncrieff and Mr Hamilton did not make the party’s shortlist for the European elections.

Douglas Denny, who was selected in an open hustings to be the Portsmouth South parliamentary candidate but was later dropped by the leadership, accused the party of being “immoral, undemocratic and deeply corrupt”, according to The Times.

Ukip said that its selection systems were fair and insisted Mr Farage had “no hand” in the process.

A spokesman said: “The results were not manipulated, and Nigel Farage had no hand whatsoever in the selection process, finding out the assessment results only at the NEC at which they were unveiled.

“The fairness of the process was, in fact, tested in court. The regional lists were not altered, except in Scotland where several candidates resigned, or where one or two candidates resigned in other regions.

“The process was not designed to ensure that anybody specific did not make the shortlist; it was designed, using external consultants, to ensure that comparatively unsuitable people did not make the shortlist, and worked well in that respect.”

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The Times in splendid isolation behind its pay wall has worked up the story with further details and would seem to have sourced much of the information via Alexi talking with the embittered scoundrel and imaginitive fantasist Douglas Denny, who is slowly spilling ther beans as his revenge for being demoted from being one of Nigel Farage’s more corrupt fixers!
Whether Alexi will manage to gain access to the hard evidence that will put Farage in prison, as boasted of by Denny, before Denny has his collar felt for colluding in criminal activity and failing to supply the facts with the evidence to the rightfull authorities is a moot question!

Ukip ‘fixing’ selection of candidates, emails claim

To view the originaldo buy a copy of today’s Times, where you will find the full text rather more decorously laid out!

Ukip ‘fixing’ selection of candidates, emails claim

 Nigel Farage

Nigel Farage has gained support by pitching Ukip as an ‘anti-establishment’ party Carl Court/Getty Images

Alexi Mostrous and Billy Kenber

Ukip has manipulated the selection of prospective parliamentary candidates and is run by Nigel Farage as an “undemocratic” cabal, according to claims in a leaked cache of documents seen by The Times.

 

More than a dozen activists previously loyal to the Eurosceptic party have resigned over perceived efforts by Mr Farage and his allies to remove long-serving Ukip members from standing as MPs and MEPs in winnable seats.

 

As Mr Farage attempts to broaden Ukip’s appeal and to capitalise on its recent successes, some of his most longstanding foot-soldiers have accused the party of ignoring its own rules on selection procedures to the benefit of favoured candidates.

 

Neil Hamilton, now Ukip’s deputy chairman, warned in a private email that its list of MEP candidates for May’s European elections contained “manifest absurdities”.

 

“As you can imagine, I’m not pleased with the MEP selection process,” Mr Hamilton wrote. “Yet again, things have not been thought through properly and badly executed.”

 

In another leaked email, Will Gilpin, Ukip’s former chief executive, wrote: “When I saw the [MEP selection] list I concluded that the party doesn’t really want to change, that the same sycophancy will be the driving force.”

 

Mr Farage has gained support by pitching Ukip as an “anti-establishment” party seeking to shake up the old boys’ club in Westminster. Internal documents reveal, though, that senior figures questioned whether party leaders had tailored interview questions to discriminate against certain MEP candidates or had altered some candidates’ ratings to suit their own preferences.

 

Instead of allowing local branches to choose candidates for the European elections in May this year, Ukip required potential MEPs to undergo psychometric testing and a series of formal interviews and assessments. They were given a rating out of 100 based on their performance and placed on a shortlist that was voted on by every party member.

 

“There is the question of whether the final scores were ‘massaged’ by an internal clique to suit pre-determined outcomes,” Andrew Moncrieff, who remains on Ukip’s governing committee, wrote last year. “What started out as an attempt to produce a transparent, equitable system has turned into another classic Ukip ‘behind closed doors’ selection.”

 

Last night, a party spokesman said: “What we see are a series of claims by disappointed candidates. The system was fair and rigorous, and the quality of candidates continues to improve. As Ukip grows there are those who have been around a long time who feel that by dint of long service they are entitled to jobs and roles. The opposite is true, as today there is far greater competition. This can only be a good thing for the party and the country as a whole.”

 

Steve Crowther, the party chairman, had to reassure the party’s national executive committee last year that Mr Farage had “never at any stage given me even the slightest indication of who should and should not be on the list. Not once.”

 

Mr Moncrieff, who like Mr Hamilton did not make the European shortlist, questioned the involvement of “Nigel’s henchmen” in the process and asked why “paid party lackeys have done surprisingly well”. He suggested that a likely reason was “that it suits the party hierarchy to get people paid by the party elected as MEPs so they can be paid for by the EU”.

 

Two Ukip insiders have suggested that at least one candidate’s scores may have been downgraded.

 

“The candidate got his results [from the firm which carried out tests o/n behalf of Ukip],” one source said. “They told him he was one of the highest. His scores were higher than his position on the list, that was for sure.”

 

The insider said that members of the party’s governing committee were not shown the candidates’ scores and were simply presented with a ranked list of 60 candidates at the same time as it was published to members.

 

David Gale, Ukip’s former candidate for the police and crime commissioner role in Derbyshire, resigned last year after suggesting that one party official had justified the omission of an MEP candidate on the basis that “all the members would vote for him and we can’t have that”. Ukip strongly denied the claims at the time.

 

Rifts in the party over selection look set to continue into next year. Douglas Denny, a former Farage loyalist who joined Ukip in 1999, accused the party of being “immoral, undemocratic and deeply corrupt” after he was deselected as the party’s parliamentary candidate for Portsmouth South.

 

Mr Denny was selected 18 months ago after winning an open hustings but was dropped by Ukip’s leadership after it asserted the right to change candidates in so-called “key seats”. In a resignation note he said that Ukip had “demonstrated conclusively that they are willing to manipulate the MP candidates’ selection process . . . and have changed the rules recently to allow this to be done. Those choosing will be under the shadow of Nigel Farage.”

 

Andrew MacDowell, Portsmouth’s chairman, also resigned from the party in protest. Roger Bird, a Ukip member, told a local newspaper that Mr Denny’s deselection was a “routine event”.

 

More recently, the entire local party branch in South Hereford voted to dissolve itself in support of the prospective parliamentary candidate, Kip Waistell, who resigned after a Ukip MEP allegedly threatened to have him “deselected”.

 

Mr Waistell claimed in his resignation letter that “there are those within Ukip who have sought from day one to manipulate people against each other in this constituency”. Ukip’s response was that a “lacklustre” Mr Waistell “jumped before he was pushed”.

 

Last year, about 200 Ukip members paid £500 each to enter the process to become an MEP candidate in the European elections. Some 77 shortlisted names paid a further £360 for screening tests, bringing the party more than £125,000 in income.

 

Mr Crowther told NEC members in an email that the selection process was “calculated to be self-liquidating”. However, Ukip’s 2013 accounts listed the costs of MEP selection as £32,671, suggesting it made a profit of more than £95,000.

 

Caroline Gent, a Ukip councillor, wrote to the party’s NEC last year to express her “total dismay” after candidates she considered to be superior were passed over. “The whole thing stinks,” she said. “I thought UKIP were supposed to be honest.”

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Yet More Ukip Corruption In Lincolnshire

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/12/2014

Yet More Ukip Corruption In Lincolnshire
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 Yet More Ukip Corruption In Lincolnshire, yet another rigging of selection process – this time in Ukip’s No. 2 target Westminster Seat!

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Hi,
yet further provenance of the total corruption of the process of democracy within Ukip – a circumstance repeated time and time again making a total mokery of the much vaunted principles of democracy in Ukip.
There is absolutely no doubt that there has been constant and continuous rigging of Ukip selection and election processes. Ukip has been utterly dishonest in its due process and has not only rigged selections and elections but has used them to steal money from their members – offering democracy and votes to members who had put their names forward with various payments required to obtain the right to stand for el;ection!
Corruption in Ukip and overt fraud has been endemic, whether as when Douglas Denny dishonestly acted for Nigel Farage to do all he could to ensure Farage was elected leader – a stunning act of corruption and dishonesty from someone supposedly empowered as the Returning Officer for the election with the duty to ensure ‘fair play’ and adherence to the rules yet himself cheating for Nigel Farage directly!
Douglas Denny was caught out, in no small part by this blog which exposed the corruption, subsequently he was removed as Returning Officer by the NEC, regardless of his hissy fit and lies to try to cover his tracks. Douglas Denny’s removal however (which is fully documented despite intervention dishonestly to try to remove all the evidence given by my blogs) However unfortunately by that time the damage was done and the election of Farage was nothing more than a corrupt coronation.
There are many more examples of the corruption of Ukip which have beenconclusively proven – below is just yet another example:

Nigel Farage with Robin Hunter-Clarke

UKIP’s oft-burnished reputation as a democratic grassroots party is set to take a battering with its own members — after the party’s top committee intervened to install one of their own number as the candidate for their #2 target seat.

With polling from Survation giving the party a massive 20-point lead, 22 year-old councillor and National Executive Committee (NEC) member Robin Hunter-Clarke is set to become the youngest MP in more than 30 years if he prevails in the Lincolnshire seat of Boston and Skegness, which is second only to Clacton in its demographic receptiveness to UKIP.

But emails leaked to Scrapbook lay bare a conspiracy amongst party top brass to install Hunter-Clarke as candidate. The day before the selection hustings was to take place, shortlisted candidates received a message from a local party official notifying them of “an anomalous situation”:

“I greatly regret that this situation has arisen and I hope that you will appreciate that it has done so solely as a result of the intervention of the NEC.

Apparently they’d decided to unilaterally install Hunter-Clarke on the shortlist, with corrupt former Tory minister Neil Hamilton withdrawing his name:

“The shortlist was duly drawn up and was submitted to the NEC. Unusually, they made adjustments to the list and one name was withdrawn and was replaced by another.

And it gets even more stinky. It turns out that Hunter-Clarke was not only on the NEC, which nobbled proceedings in his favour, but also the local committee which drew up the original shortlist in August — meaning he had seen his opponents’ CVs and had the inside track on their strengths and weaknesses.

The local party proposed sharing CVs amongst the other hopefuls — but UKIP’s head of candidates David Soutter didn’t respond until, errrr, the day before the selection meeting:

“Clearly, this was an undesirable situation and the only remedy seemed to be for all of you to have sight of each others’ CVs in order to create a level playing field.

“I wrote to [David Soutter] setting out the situation and suggesting the above remedy. That was 2½ weeks ago and I have just today received Mr. Soutter’s agreement as to this proposed course of action.

Hilariously, Soutter then refused to tell locals which candidate had prevailed at the meeting until a week later:

We’re currently awaiting a statement from ‘Kipper HQ, who insist the whole process has been above board.

UPDATE: UKIP statement: “Steps were taken to ensure that the selection in Boston and Skegness was a fair and balanced one. Robin Hunter-Clarke was selected by to fight the seat by an overriding and overwhelming vote by the Branch.”​

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Further comments ‘e’Mailed to me adds further details to this story of typical Ukip corruption:
Robin Hunter-Clarke was not only on the NEC, which nobbled proceedings in his favour, but also the local committee which drew up the original short-list in August — meaning he had seen his opponents’ CVs and had the inside track on their strengths and weaknesses.

Hunter Clarke is of course a Farage sycophant, and he makes much of being a local lad.  The problem is that he in fact lives in Chester where he is a law student.  Quite how he is going to manage to keep up with his studies is anyone’s guess, let alone fulfil his responsibilities as a councillor in Lincolnshire!
Hunter Clarke faces 260 mile round trips to attend council meetings in Lincoln, and be fully available to his constituents on local matters.  This appears not only to be exhausting for the young chap but potentially very expensive for the public.

He has been parachuted into the Boston & Skegness parliamentary seat – without a bye or leave to the local party.  Even though he has precious little experience of life (he’s still a student) he already sits on the UKIP NEC and is Chairman of a UKIP branch, and he’s a p/t councillor.  Now he’s set to be a PPC for UKIP, and possibly an MP!  What skills does he have to achieve such a rapid rise to prominence, apart from being a sycophant?  If elected will he continue to ‘read law’ and be a p/t MP as he is a p/t councillor?  Or will he become yet another career politico who will never have any first hand experience of the real world?

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Cameron Ducking To Avoid The Misunderstood Ukip Issue!

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Hi,
reading my way around the blogs and papers as regular ports of call I found the article below of particular resonance and believe you will find it a worthwhile read, wherein I incline to agree with both the main thrust of the article and the detail.
Though I must say I do feel that both Cameron and the author are over estimating the likely threat of Ukip holding and serious level of power even as a balnce at Westminster.
Although it is possible that Farage’s party could get as many as 10 seats in the Commons it is very unlikely and a more probable outcome will be none or just one or two, which at this stage does not include a seat for the showman Farage, who has not made any serious appearance in his chosen seat of Thanet for 3 months and when last there appearing on a panel it seems he got bored and lefty early for more pressing matters:

It is of course not unreasonable to assume he merely left to indulge himself as that is how he is most frequently portrayed by his own press office who know him best:

FARAGE, Nigel 103 + Victoria Ayling, Jo Bateman, Alexandra Swann, Sanya-Jeet Thandi

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The threat of Nigel Farage’s party

FARAGE, Nigel 94 ORCHESTRATING A DEFECTION 01

Is not in the next parliament but how they will disrupt the election where they are likely to take more votes from the incumbent governing party than the opposition leading to the calamitous possibility of Ed Milliband and Ed Balls in Downing Street with a minority Government propped up by the self serving SNP – a situation from which Britain may well never recover which would lock us into The EU until its inevitable collapse.

Also be minded that the SNP have 6 MPs in the present Government, a number Nigel Farage’s antics can only aspire to, and they have proved to be a total irrelevance at Westminster and it has been their home territory in Scotland where they have proved so damaging to Scotland, the Scots and the Union.

Sadly, like the SNP, Ukip has only an ability to do damage as it rakes through the gutter of politics aided by a self serving claque and the failures of society – pandering, as it does, to any form of populism however unpleasant, just to gain places on the gravy train when clearly they have no real interest in any issue other than their own income stream as they so clearly damage the honest desire of a huge tranche of the British electorate who seek to overturn our membership of the EU’s political engineering, with a new relationship in association with the EU as an economic common market rather than vassals of the new political Empirate.

I am firmly of the belief that the responsible and honourable way forward for these United Kingdoms has been laid out in detail HERE and HERE

However for some further thoughts, as it pertains to Cameron and the future of the Tory Party:

Saturday, 29 November 2014

The EU Game Cameron Plays

It is a truth universally acknowledged that when it comes to all matters EU, Cameron – the cast iron Prime Minister – is not to be trusted.

Yet he is also a man under political pressure not only from his own party but what he perceives as the UKIP threat for his general election chances. This is evident with his 2017 referendum promise which was made under duress while he had previously been anxious to avoid one at all costs.

So as we enter the final straight leading up to May 2015 we had a much-hyped speech on immigration yesterday. Its purpose not only to try to win the election but form the basis of winning an EU referendum in 2017.

In his speech we had the typical Cameron flourishes which were a rehash of his “commitments” over the Lisbon Treaty. With Lisbon he was repeatedly asked what would happen if it was ratified by all member states before he came to power. “We won’t let matters rest there” was his response, which as we all know, letting matters rest there was precisely what he did. A U-turn that almost certainly cost him the 2010 election.

Yesterday we had a variation of the same theme.

If our concerns fall on deaf ears and we cannot put our relationship with the EU on a better footing, then of course I rule nothing out.

Cameron repeated the “I rule nothing out” during the questions and answers session which followed his speech. Cameron hinting he would consider exit but not actually specifying it and we think it’s fair to assume that he won’t.

However the more interesting point concerned how Cameron was going to attempt to wriggle himself out of the hole which he has very firmly plonked himself in, namely that any reforms to satisfy eurosceptics needs treaty change and that can’t be done in the two years he proposed, if at all.

Cameron acknowledged during the Q&A session following his speech that his whole package required treaty change (my transcript):

Guardian: Patrick Wintour from the Guardian. You’ve cited Open Europe in your speech. Open Europe’s figures show that even if you’re on the minimum wage and you lose your tax credits a Pole or a Bulgarian will still have a financial incentive to come to the UK. Why are you sure that these measures will repel people from coming to the UK and secondly does this require Treaty change in your mind

Cameron: The answer to the second question is yes. These changes taken together they will require some Treaty changes. There’s a debate in Europe about exactly which bits of legislation which bits of the Treaty you’ll need to change but there’s no doubt this package as a whole will require some Treaty change. And I’m confident we can negotiate that.

Such arguments have been made often on the internet so it’s refreshing to see Cameron finally and publicly coming to the same conclusion. It’s also interesting that his numerous references to Open Europe effectively outs it as the europhile organistion that it is and that its own purpose is to keep the UK in the EU.

So…how to remove himself from a hole? Well we get a very clear indication of how he is attempting to do it from the superb analysis by Richard North of Cameron’s speech:

What the Prime Minister has done is narrow down the “reform” spectrum to cover one subject, and one subject only – immigration. To be more specific, it has been narrowed down to freedom of movement.

This has a number of positives for Cameron. By linking the freedom of movement to the issue of benefits, has made Cameron try to look somewhat tougher on both. Then by concentrating largely on immigration he’s turning his fire on UKIP.

With UKIP exiting the EU arena and going for the anti-immigrant vote as its sole purpose, topped off by an all round aggressive undertone that by Farage’s admission alienates half the electorate, it’s an understandable strategy from Cameron. It’s not the definite “ins” or the definite “outs” which matter, it’s the more sensitive “don’t knows”, “couldn’t care less”, and “could be persuaded either way” votes which win a referendum.

Thus by proposing what “appears” to be more a moderate sensible solutions to a concerned electorate rather than one of a more robust and alienating policy of repatriation (nevermind confusion) it would leave UKIP with nowhere else to go. It’s a similar scenario to countries such as Cuba whose economy used to rely mainly on one export- sugar. Any failure for whatever reason in the product and you’re buggered.

Another positive for Cameron is that there are mechanisms within EU membership which are “already possible without treaty change, or even additional EU legislation“. Those which do require treaty change conveniently can be achieved via Article 48 without the need for an IGC (Intergovernmental Conference):

…Article 48 – which deals with treaty change – also allows for a “simplified procedure”. Potentially, this would allow the procedure to be completed on a rainy afternoon in Brussels, perhaps on the margins of a European Council. There is, though, a small condition. The changes permissible are confined to Part Three of the Treaty of the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) which, just as it happens, include freedom of movement. Against all the odds, therefore, Cameron could pull off a quickie treaty and come home in triumph, waving a piece of paper.

What we can see here therefore is Cameron relying on the rather misleadingly named “self-amending” parts of the Lisbon Treaty. He will attempt to return from ‘negotiations’ claiming he’s reformed the EU via Article 48, in this Cameron is attempting to do “a Chamberlain“. It’s as transparent as it’s dishonest.

However there are also some significant negatives with Cameron’s strategy. The hurdles for Cameron are not over. Article 48 is limited to what it can and can’t do and it cannot just change the Treaty of the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) on a whim as and when, despite some of the eurosceptic rhetoric.

While Article 48 by-passes the need for a complex full-blown EU treaty and an IGC, any amendments still require the UK Parliament’s permission (along with the other 27 member states):

The amendments shall enter into force after being ratified by all the Member States in accordance with their respective constitutional requirements.

And under Article 48.7 we can see an implicit approval clause

Any initiative taken by the European Council on the basis of the first or the second subparagraph shall be notified to the national Parliaments. If a national Parliament makes known its opposition within six months of the date of such notification, the decision referred to in the first or the second subparagraph shall not be adopted. In the absence of opposition, the European Council may adopt the decision. 

In short it means Parliament always agrees to amendments unless it specifically objects within a certain time period. Therefore as we can see from Article 48 the key point is that Parliament still has a say in any potential amendments to the Lisbon Treaty.

Thus we could be in an interesting position where Cameron’s much fabled “piece of paper” is rejected by Parliament. Realistically this is unlikely. With all main parties supporting EU membership, the likelihood is Parliament will support it, but with lots of pantomime – Labour and the Lib Dems complaining it didn’t go far enough. Here would be a repeat of ERM membership – all parties supported it, for example Labour as represented by a future Chancellor known as Gordon Brown in 1990 although their criticisim was that membership didn’t go far enough:

We needed an investment Budget to deal with the problems of training in industry, a Budget that would pave the way for negotiations to enter the European monetary system [ERM], a Budget that would do something about the problems that industry now faces, with investment flat and falling away.

While permission from the UK parliament maybe assured, Cameron also requires unanimity within the European Council as this Parliamentary document makes clear in its conclusions; “…any Treaty revision by means of simplified procedures, and any changes to decision procedures by means of passerelles, will be subject to veto by the Government in the European Council or Council of Ministers.”

Thus initially Cameron has to have the approval of the other 27 member states, via the European Council and then via their own respective individual parliaments as well. Here we can probably expect likely objections to Cameron’s proposal to limit immigration to come from countries such as Poland or Romania both of which have a veto (a proper one unlike a phantom one).

Another difficulty for Cameron is, and one that has always been present, if the UK requests too much then it leads to other countries demanding concessions as well. And has always been the way through the horse trading (and consensus) which typifies EU politics the UK will give up more than it achieves.

So it is more than likely that Cameron’s package will be whittled down to non committal “declarations”, “protocols” and “technicalities”. All accompanied by theatre, marching bands and cheerleaders…but no substance. Wilson’s “New Zealand butter” writ large. All helpfully promoted by our europhile media.

Encouragingly, and somewhat revealingly, while Cameron acknowledged Norway was a part of the single market he did not specifically mention during his speech that it was “governed by fax” which he has been prone to do in the past. This is possibly a new development. And so we wonder if Witterings from Witney’s meeting with Cameron in August on this and other matters (coupled with Owen Paterson’s recent speech) had a far more reaching resonance than we might have fully appreciated. Certainly Cameron has not used the phrase since. Instead he noted:

Those who argue that Norway or Switzerland offer a better model for Britain ignore one crucial fact: they have each had to sign up to the principle of freedom of movement in order to access the single market and both countries actually have far higher per capita immigration than the UK.

Which seems to suggest the Prime Minister knows full well (or has been informed by one of his constituents) that we can have single market access without being members of the EU, thus removing ourselves from the political union baggage which he claims he wants to do. It appears that we are beginning to establish the Norway option within the public debate.

Rather incoherently he then argues that EEA membership is not an acceptable option because it has to sign up to the principle of freedom of movement, but at the same time argues that within the EU and the single market he can negotiate restrictions. A claim that becomes even more absurd when the EEA agreement, under Articles 112-3, allows greater scope to place restrictions on immigration.

And further danger emerges for Cameron that by narrowing his reforms down to one issue he risks alienating those who wish “further and deeper reforms” such as big business represented by the likes of the CBI or members of his own side. It’s also a tacit admission from the Prime Minister that he has somewhat painted himself into a corner – he has nowhere else to go either.

With this in mind we increasingly wonder if Cameron has simply just changed the hooks on which he has impaled himself and in this he is entirely beatable.

 

7 comments:

  1. Being that 2017 in mental terms is now ‘the near future’ it’s reasonable to theorise beyond the Referendum in the case that the contrived terms are sufficient to convince the UK electorate to endorse continued membership.

    Even by voting to remain in, the contradictions and inadequacies of the EU will remain, and the institutions and justifications behind them will continue to decay. Just by voting to stay in won’t make the EU any more coherent or workable – as far as I’m concerned, it will still fall apart in chaos. Those observers who actually know what they’re talking about will highlight that EU membership is still the ultimate resort of the politically insane and the logic to that is to continue the campaign to withdraw.

    I’m sure Cameron thinks he’s being jolly clever by evading the points at hand. After an ‘In’ result, the anti-EU campaign will therefore continue, business as usual.

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  2. Agreed…the EU isn’t finished in terms of its final destination so it is a moving target. This means that issue cannot remain settled while the EU keeps on integrating, especially when we consider the “referendum lock”.

    We can see another example with the Scottish referendum which has failed to silence the debate

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/give-us-a-new-referendum-by-2024-say-two-thirds-of-scots.25747131

     

     
     
  3. Sorry – should really declare identities under ‘Anonymous’ – Douglas Carter as previous post.

    I can’t blame the Scots for taking the opportunistic route – it was a literal insanity freelancing Gordon Brown to change the terms of the referendum half-way through voting – the people sending in a postal vote in advance of Brown’s intervention were voting in a Referendum which no longer existed on the final day. Some observers noted at the time there was no evidence his panicked reaction had any influence on the eventual outcome. Scots Nationalists are entitled to draw exactly the opposite conclusion since an intervention is made quite specifically to influence an outcome.

    I get no self-awareness from the Cameron\Brown\Murphy axis (if you take my point there) that the fault that the Nats’ campaign has not been stalled is entirely down to their own stupidity immediately in front of the finish line.

    That ought to be a lesson for the custodians of the EU Referendum – the whole thing needs to be crystal-clear well in advance of the poll itself – and changing the terms of the debate half way through the Campaign will simply guarantee they settle nothing on a permanent basis.

     

     
     
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  5. Thank you for the mention and link.

    To think that I may have ‘educated’ David Cameron, or made him change his mind – I wish I could be that famous! 🙂

    Cameron’s basic error in all this is that he forgot an old adage: when in hole stop digging.

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  6. You’ve no need to be famous if you’re the power behind the throne 🙂

    On a serious note, it’s obviously hard to quantify influential impact, but it seems to me to be more than coincidence that Cameron has refrained from specifying the “Norway fax” meme ever since.

    In addition he is clearly in league with Open Europe who have ‘tightened’ up their rhetoric on Norway particularly after a press complaint from this blog…

    My observation thus is that your meeting in August had a significant impact.

    And agreed completely on digging holes.

     

     
     
  7. On a notional academic point –

    ‘Cameron has refrained from specifying the “Norway fax” meme’

    …if he has indeed accepted that the myth that Norway has no influence, would it not be the case that any representative of a Government led by him would also need to be slapped down if they themselves continued to make that erroneous claim?

    For example, imagine if his own Deputy Prime Minister carried on using the claim – you’d think Cameron would want to bring him in for a re-briefing, wouldn’t you?

     

     
     
  8. Hi,

    I think not, Cameron has clearly lost control over the lies, distortions and misrepresentations Clegg is now using in the run up to the General Election, as he desperately fights for the life of his party which has been so conclusively trashed by his leadership and the incompetence and dishonesty of his MPs and MEPs.

    We all saw what Clegg’s legacy was in the EU election and we can expect the same whipeout in the General Election as his voters return to their natyural homes as either Tory or Labour.

    Norway’s position has been misrepresented consistently by the main parties and also by the racist claims of Ukip in relation to immigration, where not being in the EU but with the benefit of EEA membership has left Norway and for that matter Switzerland with around twice the levels of immigration that Britain has experienced, despite our Commonwealth affiliations!

    Facts and due dilligence have never been the forte of Ukip and Clegg & Farage would both seem to be willing to make any claim for publicity and self aggrandisement.

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Aspects Of Ukip Racism

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it is articles like the one below and the fact that time and time again it becomes apparent that at its very core Ukip is managed and staffed by those with racist views and aims.

We note that the period of rapid growth of membership of Ukip coincides with the collapse of the BNP and despite the claims of a ban on ex BNP members joining Ukip many have been condoned and encouraged and in the last few days a fair amount of publicity has been given to the fact that Nick Griffin who led the BNP for a number of years and was one of their first two MEPs has advocated voting for Ukip and made it clear he will be voting Ukip CLICK HERE

David Coburn one of Ukip’s present MEPs is far from the only one supporting those with racist views and many will be aware that one of Nigel Farage’s election agent was a BNP regional organiser.
A brief read of Ukip’s Immigration policy pamphlet
IMMIGRATION POLICY - EUkip 01
it shows clearly just how racist Ukip’s policies are especially when one reads some of the other published material, particularly by one of their longest serving MEPs Gerard Batten, some of whose pamphlets can clearly be shown to be likely to incite racial violence particularly on the issue of religion!
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Top Ukip aide linked to race hate groups and has BOASTED of taking part in far-right demonstrations

Arthur Thackeray, the taxpayer-funded chief of staff for the party’s Euro MP David Coburn, claims to have marched with the English and Scottish Defence Leagues

 
David Coburn
Far right: Arthur Misty Thackeray (right) has links to far-right groups

A top Ukip aide boasted of taking part in far-right demonstrations.

Arthur Thackeray, the taxpayer-funded chief of staff for the party’s Euro MP David Coburn, told of marching with the English and Scottish Defence Leagues.

The revelations will hugely embarrass UKIP leader Nigel Farage, who has ­repeatedly insisted his party is not racist.

Thackeray, 53, from Glasgow, was put on the public payroll by Mr Coburn, one of 24 Ukip candidates elected to the ­European Parliament in May this year.

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Embarrassing: Nigel Farage

 But just two years ago Thackeray boasted on Facebook about taking part in an SDL demo in Glasgow on February 25, 2012.

Months earlier he told how he joined the EDL at a protest in Blackpool on October 15, 2011, with “patriots old and new”.

He spelt out his support for the far-right groups in a post on September 3, 2011, writing: “I personally support the aims and objectives of the Defence Leagues. Ukip has no official party line on this issue.”

A day earlier, on the eve of an EDL demo in east London, he wrote: “To all London-bound patriots… stand proud and stay safe NS (no surrender).”

When another activist urged people to join EDL to stop “Muslim paedophile gangs”, Thackeray replied: “Good post.”

Birmingham Mail EDL in Walsall: Protests by the English Defence League
Backing: EDL protest

On the day of a highly contentious protest in Luton, Beds, he wrote: “Luton 05/02/11. For all the patriots, infidels, angels and belles… stand proud and stay safe… NS!”

After a 2010 Armed Forces Day event in Blackpool he wrote: “Thanx to the UKIPers, EDLers, RAFers and Infusers I met.”

He is on first-name terms with former National Front chief Patrick Harrington, who sent him an online Christmas card.

And in October 2012 he plugged a book in favour of far-right soccer thugs group Casuals United, writing: “Forget lefty media lies and be informed from inside the patriot protest movement.”

Last year Ukip leader Mr Farage suspended Leicester Parliamentary ­candidate Chris Scotton, 24, after he “liked” a Facebook page supporting EDL.

Ukip did not respond to our request for a comment last night

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Nigel Farage Confused In His Opposition To Ukip Views On Homosexuals

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Nigel Farage Confused iIn His Opposition To Ukip Views On Homosexuals, trying to distance himself from one of his battier ex Deputy Leaders yet defending his current leader in The EU the arcane Roger Helmer.

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Nigel Farage condemns former Ukip deputy Monckton’s comments that gay men have ‘20,000 sexual partners’ in their ‘miserable lives’

 

Farage is the same man who defended rampantly homophobic Newark candidate Roger Helmer earlier this year, who likened gay marriage to incest

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Nigel Farage has come to the aid of Ukip’s ever-dwindling reputation for tolerance by condemning homophobic comments made by the party’s former deputy leader this week.

Lord Christopher Monckton, who is also a former Conservative advisor, claimed that AIDS was the “wages” of gay promiscuity and dismissively referred to LGBT people as “QWERTYs”.

Lord Monckton speaks at UKIP's Young Independence party Lord Monckton speaks at UKIP’s Young Independence party Writing for WorldNetDaily, he asserted that some gay men “had as many as 20,000” in their “short, miserable lives” and declared HIV a “gay disease”.

In a column for The Independent, Farage said there was “no place for men like Monckton”, the Glaswegian politician lwho eft the party in December 2013, in Ukip.

Read Nigel Farage’s Column In Full Here

“Now, I’m not sure where Viscount Monckton is getting his statistics, but to frame these comments as he has is both deeply offensive and fundamentally wrong,” Farage commented.

“This sort of disruptive, crass and insensitive work serves to underscore why people with views such as these, openly mocking while seeming oddly threatened  by homosexuals, should get no support from Ukippers.”

He went on to highlight the existence of an “LGBTQ in Ukip” Facebook page for gay Ukip supporters, which has notched up over 1,200 followers thus far.

He then added: “How many other parties have an MEP who describes himself as ‘spectacularly homosexual’ and a ‘great big screaming poof’? David Coburn MEP’s words – not mine!”

Farage concluded by writing that Ukip wasn’t “a place for division or malice” and pointing out that “the word ‘United’ is in our name”.He didn’t, however, mention his tireless defence of Ukip’s rampantly homophobic Newark by-election candidate Roger Helmer earlier this year.

Helmer provoked anger after he said some people find homosexuality “distasteful if not viscerally repugnant”. He has also likened same-sex marriage to incest.

Farage spoke in support of his views, saying that many people of Helmer’s generation, who grew up in a period of time in which homosexuality was illegal, would  have harboured similar opinions.

“Actually if we asked the 70s and over in this country how they felt about it, most of them still feel uncomfortable. He has said the world has moved on, he now accepts there’s been a big social change in Britain and he’s relaxed about it.”

Spinning tolerance on its head, he further told the BBC that if modern society was as accepting as it believes itself to be, it would also find a space for that of Helmner’s off-kilter assertions.

Henley-upon-Thames Ukip councillor David Silvester was, however, suspended from the party, after he blamed Britain’s extensive floods on the passage of the gay marriage bill in January.

On the subject of gay marriage himself, Farage told LBC in March: “We are opening up a very big can of worms here, with many very big risks.

“I think the Church of England is going to go through a very difficult and miserable time as it is dragged through the courts of Strasbourg. I can’t prejudge what will happen there, but possibly forced to conduct gay marriages in those churches against the will of vast majority of churchgoers.”

Asked to further explain his position on gay marriage, were Britain not part of the EU, he said: “I do not support same sex marriages all the while we’re under the auspices of the European court of human rights.”

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Thoughts & Suggestions On Ukip & Tory Future

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 28/11/2014

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for your information I have published below, without any editing or alteration a suggestion which is being widely circulated in Ukip at branch level.
It has, in my opinion, some merit but unfortunately I do not believe it is likely to go anywhere as it requires an element of surrender of personal greeds and ambitions that political aspirations are unlikely to accomodate.
That said it is pleasing to note that there are some outthere trying to improve or system of governance, though my support lies firmly with The Harrogate agenda and FleXcit.

Procedure By Which conservatives Could Control  Parliament

If Ukip is Lucky, Ukip could, perhaps, get five to ten seats in Parliament. Do not forget, the public still regards Ukip  as a one issue  party. To gain control of Parliament Ukip  and (and friends) should form a new conservative party with a platform that is close to that of the existing Conservative party, omitting, of course, policies that are objectionable to conservatives.

The purpose would be to make a bed that would be easy for conservatives to slide into, including the eighty  percent of the Conservatives who left Conservative  associations. Ukip and the conservatives should then  form a  political  association  in  each  parliamentary  district. Ukip could merge with the new party, thus getting rid of the one issue problem. 

Every one who would have worked to form the new, conservative, party should be prevented from joining the new party for a period of time to prevent the impression that Ukip controls it.

The two or three conservative parties should hold a primary election to determine who runs as the Parliamentary candidate, with the losers to help the winner. The cost of forming new associations can be raised by local contributors. It is suggested that the  new   conservative associations and the political party be controlled by the lowest level of conservatives, such as teachers, small businessmen, solicitors, professionals etc.

If the above procedure can not be completed in time to get candidates elected to Parliament, the new party must wait until after the  election  and  hold  a  petition demanding that the elected MP resign.

Note: an MP represents every person in his district, not just members and supporters of his party. When the petition reaches fifty percent of those who voted in the prior election, the conservatives will be morally justified in demanding their MP’s resignation. Then the new party could run their candidates in the following by elections. 

To select a candidate, a local  association should advertise for applicants or the position of candidate for  Parliament, then select the best applicant by using rigorous tests, including, most importantly, psychological
evaluation. psychological evaluation is an absolute necessity as the psychological evaluation is the only way to tell who is honest and who is a conartist; members of the public  cannot.

Testing could be required of the association officers, committee members and delegates, etc.

The platform, selected by new party associations, should be some what vague in order to facilitate integration  the platforms of the new associations into one platform. It is suggested that self forming cliques of those who are honest and trust worthy be formed; then form self forming cliques of those who have  political skills and capabilities,  within  the first described clique.

The Iron Law of Organisations states that “Unless specifically excluded, all organisations with power, audience or capital will be controlled, dominated, ruled or ruined by the following quad: opportunists, neurotics, the partisan and the hostile” achieving such through some of multiple dirty tricks developed through the centuries.

All political  parties are formed out of lobbying groups, the equivalent of think tanks, etc, going back  decades  before the party’s formation. Thus  everybody forming the party had a pretty good idea of the other formers’ character and could exclude  dangerous individuals who  might  destroy or  hinder  the  party.

Ukip is an exception to the rule. A bonanza suddenly appeared in form  of  opposition to The European Union and to immigration. Numerous opportunists jumped in to form Ukip; the first became the leadership and secured their power with their true character being known. Thus people with unknown personalities became leaders. Should Ukip gain control of  Parliament you can expect scandals with precedent.

In addition, Ukip has no expertise in anything except immigration.

I find the above suggestion rather clouded by a rather naive understanding of Ukip which over eggs their ability with comments like:
In addition, Ukip has no expertise in anything except immigration.
clearly Ukip, in the field of immigration, either has little knowledge of the facts pertaining to immigration or it does know and is misrepresenting the facts dishonestly for their own personal gain playing on the fear and ignorance of the public.
Ukip grossly oversimplifies the issues and tries to pretend that if we Leave_The_EU the problem would be solved when clearly, even with minimal understanding, the EU is in the same invidious position as Britain believes itself to be in – immigration is a global issue and a global problem as shown by the fact that Britain’s immigrant percentage is low relative to may of the EU’s other vassal regions and has the same level of immigrants as the USA but far less than Norway, Switzerland, Australia and even Germany.
It is this sort of sloppy and dishonest behaviour in Ukip with its leadership team publicly contradicting eachother on core policy and some of its overtly racist publications that ensures that in thwe long run they are going nowhere!
I believe it is optimistic of Ukip to believe they will have any MPs elected at the general election as they overlook the probability of a collapse of the party either in internal squabbles or in disgrace over its apparent industrial level corruption.
That is not to say they will be lucky and not be exposed in time for it to effect the outcome of the election but as one wit put it with Labour:
‘Vote Labour and get Milliband’!
One might consider
‘Vote Ukip and get inept corruption’.
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Winston McKenzie Exposes Ukip To Ridicule Again!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/11/2014

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this is not, as Ukip followers will be all too well aware, Winston McKenzie’s only recent brush with ordure and making Ukip look almost as foolish as he has consistently proved to be!
Frankly I can’t be bothered publishing the all the serial stupidities and spectacular ‘FAILS’ of this ridiculous little self publicist, but a quick search on the internet will provide more than enough evidence of his antics!

UKIP’s McKenzie takes revenge against local whistleblower

Winston McKenzie: don't get the wrong side of "The Avenger"

Do not, whatever you do, get the wrong side of Winston McKenzie, UKIP’s parliamentary candidate for Croydon North at next year’s General Election.

Because if you do, then he might drum you out of his little club.

The ex-boxer likes to describe himself as “Champ”, despite having never won a title or a public election. He may soon be nicknaming himself “The Avenger”, after the whistleblower who reported strange goings-ons with a large cash donation to his party was this morning kicked off McKenzie’s committee and out of UKIP’s Lambeth and Croydon North branch.

McKenzie characterised the outcome of the meeting this morning as “being kind to the old boy”. Not so much “The Avenger”, perhaps then, as “The Smiling Assassin”.

McKenzie, Nigel Farage’s chosen party spokesman on “Commonwealth issues”, was exposed as having failed to properly handle and account for a £1,000 donation to party campaign funds earlier this year.

As Inside Croydon reported, McKenzie claims to have used a large chunk of the cash – which never saw the inside of a bank – to pay a few of his mates for “security” at his chaotic Croydon Carnival in May (for more details CLICK HERE). Not that McKenzie ever bothered getting any receipts or invoices for the expenditure, which was apparently made on behalf of UKIP.

Beyond a slapped wrist and instructions to the branch treasurer, Lady Bowness (she is the former wife of Tory peer Lord Bowness), to take more care with the party’s money in future, a report into the matter conducted by Mick McGough, a member of UKIP’s national executive, recommended no further action against McKenzie.

Inside Croydon was leaked McGough’s report, which you can read by clicking here. It is all pretty basic stuff.

Why was there no further action taken by UKIP? “Nigel feels that Winston is useful to the party,” said a senior figure within UKIP nationally, without expanding on what that “usefulness” might be. “That’s despite the lorry-loads of baggage that Winston brings with him.”

UKIP leader, Nigel Farage: seems to think "Chump" McKenzie offers something to UKIP

Given such a free pass, McKenzie appears to believe he can run his branch of UKIP as his own fiefdom.

So this morning, McKenzie chaired a meeting of UKIP’s Lambeth and Croydon North branch committee, called to expel from the branch the member who had highlighted the irregularities over the handling of the large sum of money.

The committee meeting was held at the “branch headquarters” on Station Road in South Norwood. “In attendance will be the Committee, myself, Marianne Bowness, Barry Slayford and Peter Kirby,” McKenzie wrote in his meeting summons.

It seems that McKenzie’s Lambeth North and Croydon branch has a committee of just five people.

Only two of those actually live in the branch area of which they are members. UKIP’s own rules on “migration” between membership areas appears a good deal more relaxed than the party’s policies on migration between EU member states.

Three of McKenzie’s branch committee do not live Lambeth and Croydon North: Marianne Bowness is a Waddon resident (in the Croydon South parliamentary constituency, and therefore under a different UKIP branch), Peter Kirby comes from Heathfield (ditto), and Peter Morgan lives in Coulsdon (same again).

And then there were four: Morgan’s UKIP membership is suspended at the moment, because of his penchant for running multiple Twitter accounts without any accountability. So he was not on the five-person committee meeting invitation list.

And McKenzie’s committee is now just three-strong, because Kirby, UKIP Lambeth and Croydon North’s membership secretary, has now been removed. Kirby was the person who raised the matter of McKenzie and treasurer Bowness’s somewhat lax financial accounting.

Today’s meeting – which was due to start at 11am on a weekday, when most hard-working people are at work – was to consider just two motions: one to accept the resignation of Kirby as a signatory to the branch bank account (Kirby tendered this resignation at the extraordinary meeting to discuss the financial irregularities on November 19), and second “To vote on the removal of Peter Kirby as a Member of the Lambeth & Croydon North Branch”.

Until today, Inside Croydon had heard nothing further from “Chump” McKenzie since he somewhat rashly threatened to employ Messrs Sue, Grabbit & Runne to sue us (though he omitted to say on what grounds).

So we phoned his mobile shortly after the meeting was due to finish. A somewhat harassed-sounding woman answered. It was Marianne Bowness. We asked to speak to Winston, and whether they’d had their meeting.

“I’m on the bus,” said her ladyship. “I’ll get Winston to call you when I am back in the office.”

Nearly two hours later, McKenzie called to say, “Peter’s a lovely bloke, but he’s getting on, he’s 83 I think.

“This has been coming for some time, and it’s affected my health, but things have changed since the local and European elections. He’s said that he’s tired and old and that he’s got to go. I begged him not to go.

“But I’ve got to accept his resignation and be kind to the old boy.”

By time of publication, Peter Kirby has not responded to our request for a comment.

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Are #Ukip & Their #Met Chums Closer To Prison Now?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/11/2014

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Judging by #Justice4Jasna it is not just the weight of evidence but the calliber of their ‘critics’ that damns them!
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it does look as if members of Ukip leadership team and what seem all too clearly to be corrupt police officers working for them are inexorably moving closer to exposure and resolution of their crimes in the courts.

The gravity of their position is increasingly irrevocable as Boris Johnson has managed to confirm. Here is the answer to one of the two questions on the subject of Jasna Badzak, which he was asked last week!

The answer is without doubt damning for the corrupt police! Proof of the corruption will in my opinion lead to the resignation of head of the Met. Hogan-Hunt and probable prison for the officers concerned and as the members of Ukip heirarchy are in elected office & public servants their fate can hardly be less than prison, if justice is to be seen to be done:

Mayor's QT 1 Answer 01

The following comments include allusion to various evidence and clear reference to facts on Twitter under the #tags #Justice4Jasna & #JusticeForJasna – there are of course many many more comments on the subject, each more or less informative and damning to the corrupt police as they seem to be in their co-operation with the abusive Ukip officials!

1. Irie and 2 others follow
Women Defy UKIP ‏@WomenDefyUKIP 15m15 minutes ago
@MarkLewisLawyer has taken on #Justice4Jasna

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Women Defy UKIP ‏@WomenDefyUKIP 32m32 minutes ago
Now #Justice4Jasna can get moving with @MarkLewisLawyer onboard
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Kathrina Visitkarte ‏@Visitkarte 40m40 minutes ago
Mark Lewis is a brilliant lawyer, fighting for #Justice4Jasna fighting against #UKIP
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Mouth of Sauron ‏@simon_lindsell 42m42 minutes ago
#Justice4Jasna Tick tock, #Ukip
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Sam hussain ‏@Samsoprano30 1h1 hour ago Middlesbrough, North East
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#Justice4Jasna get it trending today, SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists 2h2 hours ago
• Just heard that the brilliant @MarkLewislawyer has joined the fight for #Justice4Jasna. #UKIP #UKIPCorruption
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Lee Jasper ‏@LeeJasper 2h2 hours ago
A big thank you to @MarkLewislawyer a committed lawyer fighting for #Justice4Jasna @JasnaBadzak
Trial date Wed 24/11 9.30 West Ldn Mags
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Lee Jasper ‏@LeeJasper 2h2 hours ago
• The political trial of @JasnaBadzak @UKIP critic West London Mag’s Court Tollgarth Rd 9.30 Wed 26th Nov #Justice4Jasna RT I wouldn’t miss it
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Southend Marxist ‏@p1966k 3h3 hours ago
Come on: Please RT: Stop #UKIP criminal behaviour. Please support @MarkLewislawyer who is a brilliant lawyer fighting for #Justice4Jasna
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Harry Stephenson ‏@HS_feed 3h3 hours ago
Would like to thank @MarkLewisLawyer for helping @JasnaBadzak with her case. #Justice4Jasna
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Chemical Punnage ‏@Uncleskinny 4h4 hours ago
I hope #UKIP take note that @MarkLewisLawyer is fighting for @JasnaBadzak. #Justice4Jasna
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Chemical Punnage ‏@Uncleskinny 4h4 hours ago
Brilliant to hear that the superb @MarkLewisLawyer is fighting for @JasnaBadzak . Good luck to both. #Justice4Jasna
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Irie ‏@Dubdanu 6h6 hours ago
@TamoorT alleged corruption in ukip and @metpoliceuk >>http://unfashionista.com/2014/11/05/why-was-jasna-badzak-arrested-for-rting-a-critical-blog-about-ukip/ … #Justice4Jasna RT. In court tomorrow!
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Harry Stephenson ‏@HS_feed 9h9 hours ago
Can you really be arrested for RT blogs? Can you be silenced for being a critic of a political party? http://youtu.be/Yy6t1cYuWfg #Justice4Jasna
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Harry Stephenson ‏@HS_feed 9h9 hours ago
Jasna Badzak at West London Mag’s Court Tollgarth Rd Wednesday 9.30am for RTing a blog by MET Police #Justice4Jasna http://youtu.be/Yy6t1cYuWfg
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Women Defy UKIP ‏@WomenDefyUKIP Nov 24
The day after tomorrow @JasnaBadzak is in court for RT’ing a blog by @LeeJasper #Justice4Jasna http://leejasper.blogspot.co.uk/2014/09/ukip-metropolitan-police-service-and.html?m=1
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Irie ‏@Dubdanu Nov 24
@LouiseMensch Have you an update on this please?http://unfashionista.com/2014/11/05/why-was-jasna-badzak-arrested-for-rting-a-critical-blog-about-ukip/ … @LeeJasper @JasnaBadzak @WomenDefyUKIP #Justice4Jasna
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Bob From Brockley ‏@bobfrombrockley Nov 23
Am only just catching up with this appalling story of #UKIP/cop collusion to crush a whistleblower http://unfashionista.com/2014/11/05/why-was-jasna-badzak-arrested-for-rting-a-critical-blog-about-ukip/ … #Justice4Jasna
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NorseFired ‏@NorseFired Nov 21
A few reasons why a UKIP govt is a terrifying thought > http://unfashionista.com/2014/11/05/why-was-jasna-badzak-arrested-for-rting-a-critical-blog-about-ukip/https://twitter.com/NorseFired/status/529425022700380160 … #Justice4Jasna
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Louise Mensch ‏@LouiseMensch Nov 19 Manhattan, NY
This will be a bit of a problem for @MetPolice in #Justice4Jasna case https://twitter.com/DannyShawBBC/status/534666376443875328
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Mortimer Nutleg™ ‏@martasaurus_rex Nov 17
Joshua Bonehill’s latest wibble on the bale is mindnumbingly gobsmacking in its ignorance, malice & utter lack of insight. #JusticeforJasna
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TG ‏@TelepathicGoat Nov 16
@LouiseMensch The non existent James Galvin questioned a suspect earlier this year. http://dailym.ai/1uhenAS via @MailOnline #JusticeForJasna
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John O’Connell ‏@jdpoc Nov 15
Hearing Jasna Badzac, ex-#UKIP, harassed by ‘Police’ again tonight. On @GerardBattenMEP orders? Or another UKIP official? #JusticeForJasna
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Morrigan ‏@Morrigan_Roars Nov 11
FFS! Leave Jasna & her child alone you vile cowards!! #JusticeForJasna
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Morrigan ‏@Morrigan_Roars Nov 10
If you’re not outraged, you’re NOT paying attention! #JusticeForJasna

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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 9
Gerard Batten on #WMHour saying he wants to be tough on crime. Good. #PervertingCourseOfJustice #JusticeForJasna
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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 7
Tweet of the day by @RutlandNed, and it’s not even 10 AM yet. https://twitter.com/RutlandNed/status/530640423497523201 … #JusticeForJasna
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Exposing UKIP ‏@Exposing_UKIP Nov 6
#BBCQT : Whose asking the question of #UKIP and @metpoliceuk illegal intimidation of UKIP Critics ? #JusticeForJasna
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#BBCQT : Whose asking the question of #UKIP and @metpoliceuk illegal intimidation of UKIP Critics ? #JusticeForJasna
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RT @Exposing_UKIP: #BBCQT in 5 minutes. Whose asking the question of #UKIP and @metpoliceuk intimidation ? #JusticeForJasna Please RT
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Exposing UKIP ‏@Exposing_UKIP Nov 6
#BBCQT in 5 minutes. Whose asking the question of #UKIP and @metpoliceuk intimidation ? #JusticeForJasna
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Women Defy UKIP ‏@WomenDefyUKIP Nov 6
When is Batten going to call off his henchmen? http://unfashionista.com/2014/11/05/why-was-jasna-badzak-arrested-for-rting-a-critical-blog-about-ukip/ … #JusticeForJasna
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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 6
Oh, and @JasnaBadzak, it was great to speak to you, and glad to hear that my tweets make you smile! 🙂 Get well soon. #JusticeForJasna
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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 6
Just had a phone chat with @JasnaBadzak, and @LouiseMensch is correct – there is much more to come. #JusticeForJasna
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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 6
@LouiseMensch I don’t agree with you on much, Louise, but would like to heartily thank you for publicising Jasna’s story. #JusticeForJasna
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SLATFascists ‏@SLATFascists Nov 6
@Exposing_UKIP Surely not! That sounds like an awfully fascist thing to do. #JusticeForJasna
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Exposing UKIP ‏@Exposing_UKIP Nov 6
RT @DevilLucifer29: “What more lies.” > Unlike most #UKIP rubbish, our info is sourced and documented. #JusticeForJasna
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John O’Connell ‏@jdpoc Nov 6
No #UKIP on #BBCQT tonight ? Looks like we’ll have to raise the issue of #UKIP and @metpoliceuk links ourselves, then. #JusticeForJasna
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Issy Respect Party ‏@IsyRespectParty Nov 5
http://leejasper.blogspot.co.uk/ #JusticeForJasna I’m ex Ukip and I know how they work, I here where Jasna is coming from. @LeeJasper @Exposing_UKIP
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Michael Shrimpton Faces Jail For Bomb Hoax

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Sometime speaker for Ukip & conspiracy theorist Michael Shrimpton Faces Jail For Bomb Hoax and fantasy of DVD sinking the Kursk & planning a nuclear bomb at 2012 Olympics!!!

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having first met Michael around 15 years ago when he was the speaker at a Ukip supporters meeting I attended and having worked with him in the Ukip metric martyrs case, where he defended Steve Thoburn and having had him as a house guest for over a month on one occasion I have little doubt that he needs help rather than punishment and I hope he gets it.
I believe that if he receives a prison sentence it could make his obvious problems even more acute.
Good luck to Michael on the 6-Feb-2015 when he comes up for sentencing as I do not believe that Michael meant any harm and his over active imagination and general detachment from reality has been steadily building towards this problem over many years.
Amusing as Michael can be as a speaker his theories have made him a figure of fun and ridicule in the main though he has something of a cult following amongst some of the more gullible conspiracy theorists as with his risible theories regarding the McCann  case!

Fantasist barrister faces jail for sparking security scare with claim that German spies were planning ’24-style’ nuclear attack on the Queen at London Olympics

  • Michael Shrimpton, 57, called Parliament over nuclear threat in April 2012
  • Said German spies had weapon in London and were going to attack Queen
  • Is facing jail after being found guilty of communicating false information
  • But sentencing delayed until next year while psychiatric test carried out 
Michael Shrimpton, 57, is facing jail after being found guilty of phoning Parliament in April 2012 to say the Queen was the target of a nuclear attack

Michael Shrimpton, 57, is facing jail after being found guilty of phoning Parliament in April 2012 to say the Queen was the target of a nuclear attack

A barrister who claimed that German spies were plotting to attack the Queen with a nuclear weapon at the London Olympics has been found guilty of communicating false information.

Michael Shrimpton, 57, called a close colleague of former Defence Secretary Philip Hammond in April 2012 to say that a nuclear warhead had been stashed in an east London hospital and was going to be used to attack either the Queen, the Olympic Stadium, or the opening ceremony.

He also claimed his house in Wendover, Buckinghamshire, was a ‘bona fide’ HQ for an international intelligence network – but he is today facing jail after being found guilty at Southwark Crown Court.

A jury of nine men and three women found Shrimpton guilty of two counts of communicating false information after more than six hours of deliberation, with majority 11-1 verdicts.

Sentencing will take place in February of next year after Judge Alistair McCreath QC ordered that Shrimpton be sent for psychiatric evaluation.

Judge McCreath said: ‘The sentence that I pass upon you will have to reflect that gravity of the conduct of which you have been convicted.

‘But if, as may be the case, there is some underlying reason for it, then it seems to me important that I be informed of that underlying reason and I am therefore minded to order that you undergo psychiatric examination.’

Shrimpton, author of ‘Spyhunter: The Secret History of German Intelligence’, replied he had ‘no objection’ to the order.

In April 2012, just as preparations for the London Olympics were entering their final phase, Shrimpton contacted Barry Burton, the principal private secretary to Philip Hammond.

He told Mr Burton that spies from ‘a covert and rather sinister’ Germany agency had sabotaged Russian submarine Kursk, which sank in 2000, and stole four nuclear warheads.

The lawyer boasted of ‘credible European sources’, name-dropped members of parliament, and said intelligence had been blocked through official channels because the Germans had infiltrated MI5, MI6 and GCHQ.

During the 20-minute call Shrimpton said he had gathered intelligence from his own network of volunteers that one warhead was being stored in a hospital in London to avoid detection.

Mr Burton suspected that the call had been a hoax, but was forced to pass the information over to the Olympic security team and the police.

The following day Shrimpton phoned the Aylesbury Conservative Association and asked to speak with MP David Lidington about the threat, which he described as being in the style of American TV show ’24’.

The call was reported to a colleague at Parliament, and Shrimpton was arrested the same day.

Shrimpton called a close colleague of then Defence Secretary Philip Hammond to say German spies had looted four nuclear warheads from a sunken Russia sub and were hiding one in London for the attack

Shrimpton called a close colleague of then Defence Secretary Philip Hammond to say German spies had looted four nuclear warheads from a sunken Russia sub and were hiding one in London for the attack

Shrimpton claimed his arrest was a ‘colossal cock-up’, blamed the Germans and demanded a ‘nice lunch with MI5’.

In interview at Aylesbury police station he boasted he was a ‘national security specialist’ with hundreds of intelligence contacts who acted as a back channel between governments.

Representing himself at his two-week trial, he told jurors he worked on the investigation into Madeleine McCann’s disappearance and the case of Chilean dictator General Augusto Pinochet.

He read extracts from his address book with a number of ‘contacts’ in the CIA, FBI, MI6, the Pentagon, Chinese intelligence and Parliament.

Shrimpton said: ‘I admit that the stuff I deal with is bound to sound strange, high falutin, incredible and fantastic.It’s my world, welcome to my world.’

Shrimpton claimed he has rubbed shoulders with royalty, former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and listed a number of famous names including Richard Branson and Steven Forbes.

Giving evidence he boasted of meeting Prince Philip twice in a social context and claimed to have to Royal’s phone number.

Shrimpton said the information had been blocked through official channels because the Germans had infiltrated MI5, MI6, and GCHQ (pictured, the Queen at the London 2012 opening ceremony)

Shrimpton said the information had been blocked through official channels because the Germans had infiltrated MI5, MI6, and GCHQ (pictured, the Queen at the London 2012 opening ceremony)

Among his other claims were that he was consulted by the makers of TV show Spooks on his specialist knowledge, that the CIA had allowed him to enter the U.S. carrying a weapon, and that the LA Sheriff’s Department had discussed terror attacks with him over a cup of coffee.

He also insisted he has the authority to issue a Defence Advisory Notice on behalf of the government to stop British media from publishing stories that could compromise national security.

He said he wanted to prevent the News of the World from blowing his intelligence, and added they were ‘very cooperative’.

Shrimpton told jurors that there had been an assassination attempt against him by the Chinese authorities who wanted to ‘whack’ him. 

In response, prosecutor Alan Blake said: ‘The information was extraordinary and dramatic, in essence Mr Shrimpton announced that a nuclear weapon stolen from the sunken Russian submarine the Kursk a number of years ago, that such a nuclear weapon had been smuggled into the UK and was being stored in a London hospital in preparation to be used during the Olympic games.

‘With the benefit of hindsight the information may seem outlandish, perhaps even laughable.

‘Before being too dismissive do recall the position in 2012 when those calls were made.’

Sitting at Southwark Crown Court, Judge Alistair McCreath QC delayed sentencing for Shrimpton until February next year while the lawyer has psychiatric tests

Sitting at Southwark Crown Court, Judge Alistair McCreath QC delayed sentencing for Shrimpton until February next year while the lawyer has psychiatric tests

At that stage, surface to air missiles had just been installed on the tops of a number of blocks of flats and it was feared terrorists could infiltrate G4S staff after the security company began frantically hiring after announcing a staff shortage, the court heard.

Mr Blake said Shrimpton was a ‘respected professional man’ who has ‘superficial plausibility’.

He added: ‘It is the prosecution’s case that the information provided by Mr Shrimpton was false and that when he communicated those threats he didn’t honestly or genuinely believe that they were true or rather knew or believed that they were false.’

Shrimpton was granted conditional bail ahead of sentencing on February 6

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