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UKIP, CIB, TFA etc. are so befouled by association

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 30/07/2012

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UKIP, CIB, TFA etc. are so befouled by association with liars, cheats & low lifes like of Mick McGough!
UKIP is demeaned by such people & by association with The EFD & failure to root out the corrupt in its own leadership clique and its claque of corrupt self seekers!

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Hi,
with at least 25% of the topics & conversation on one of the UKIP controlled Forums being desperate attempts to defame both Junius & this blog for daring to be patriotic, principled supporters of the ideals of the bulk of those, who like us, who support UKIP’s aim to Leave-The-EU which has quite clearly been subsumed by greed, corruption and self interest of its embarrassment in the leadership clique and its claque of self serving wannabes hovering around the honey pot seeking crumbs from the tables on the EU gravy train.
We now have one of the fools in this claque too ashamed to put his name to his naive comment:
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Mick, do you realise how few people read or even know of Junius/GLW?
In fact you probably help their readership by keeping threads like this going.
Just ignore them.
If you think they are writing lies, then who cares.
How very true – but how staggeringly silly in its political naivity – politicians seek numbers as shown by the crass who gather around The Farage Party, which offers no meaningful hope having been a spectacular failure with less than 30 people elected to office out of the 19,500 or so seats available by election in British politics and it has taken 20 years to achieve that!
What the foolish little chap hasn’t understood is that it couldn’t matter less how many of the several 100,000 people who read our blogs actually do know of us, with Junius running at approaching 1/4 Million hits a year and my blogs well into 100s of 1,000s, it is a matter of the quality of those opinion formers who read them.
It is also worth noting how many sites mirror our blogs and howmany on post them or quote them. On one of the UKIP controlled Forums our blogs and ourselves feature in at least 1/3rd of all UKIP postings!
But yet again – who cares how many read our blogs or Twitters it is a matter of calliber and relevance and that would seem to be a good percentage of the total.
As with Twitter where the irrelevancy of followers is matched by the general stupidity of most tweets – hence I TRY to keep those I follow to under 50 so that I can read their posts (unlike the idiotic who obviously read very little following 1,000s) similarly as my Tweets are published on the side bar of my blogs and web sites they are read by many more than those willing to risk the attacks of UKIP leadership claque and the nutters from the Hollie Greig hoax or the McCann publicity machine who do not want to be on the list but clearly read the entries.
Take for instance someone like stephen Fry – who cares what he Tweets? or who is interested in what Nigel Farage’s staff Tweet for him and obviously his Twitter account is dishonest as who on earth has the time to read all those incoming Tweets he merely lets people be on his list to flatter them for political gain. One wonders what percentage of his followers either read his staff’s output or are even in Britain!
Better to be read by one individual of influence and consequence than 10,000 fools!
Ill informed as he is this cowardly poster sheltering in anonymity has not twigged the value of a searchable archive of facts and related views. Nor it seems has he any awareness of the number of mainstream media stories that have been in the media as a result of these two blogs.
No doubt the foolish little fellow is unaware that it was as a direct result of my postings and relentless exposure of corruption that Tom Wise UKIP MEP was eventually put in prison and consider the number of facts regarding corruption that first surfaced in the public domain on these two blogs.
It is our clearly avowed aim to expose the corruption, lies, self enrichment, self interest and utter incompetence of UKIP leadership and its claque of corrupt fools that is at the core of our postings – the aim is to CLEAN-UP UKIP to hopefully make it electable to lead & champion the cause of Leave-The-EU, which it has clearly failed to do.
UKIP had some great (if slow in coming) achievements in the early days reaching its zenith with Roger Knapman at the helm in 2004 – it had effectively, through use of such campaigning as was advocated by Dick Morris – And yes of course what he said was obvious and as with any simple principles nothing he said was new or even his own ideas BUT he put it together for UKIP members in a form they were able to take on board.
WHAT has UKIP achieved since 2004? It had 12 MEPs and all that potential and went on to become a total embarrassment currently up to its neck in half baked policies and pretence to be a political party (we need another political party like a hole in the head) when what we need is leadership to Leave-The-EU.
All that UKIP has achieved since 2004 is a series of thefts by its MEPs and their staff and the rise to control of half wits and political idiots like Mick McGough, Malcolm Pearson, Stuart Agnew, Derek Clark, Gerard Batten, Stuart Parr, Steve Crowther and the list goes on!
Results at the polls in British politics speak volumes with UKIP bumping along averaging out at between 3 & 6% of the actual votes at the ballot box after 20 years!
For trying to CLEAN-UP the party we support to make it electable it is little wonder the clique does not wish to be exposed and their claque are in overdrive with lies, defamatory comments and serial desperation to silence the steady flow of information from Junius and my blogs.
Predictably the response of the proven liar who has stooped to criminality to silence the truth Mick McGough was not long in coming to the quote of the anonymous half wit which I posted above!
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I just want it clearly stated they are liers however small the readership

It would be funny if it were not so sad that this liar McGough has licence as an NEC member in UKIP and part of the hangers on with CIB & bean counter at TFA to keep dragging thes organisations into the gutters he inhabits.
Grovelling when Brahms & Liszt?
For details and cross referenced fact regarding the odious little man CLICK HERE a search of this blog (Search Bar: Top of Right side column or CLICK HERE)
OK it is irrefutably proven that this low life pest Mick McGough is a liar, a cheat and willing to demean himself and his associates with his comments and behaviour and to think he has conned his way onto UKIP’s NEC and uis seemingly respected by the illinformed and less intelligent UKIP members who are clearly unaware of the damage he does.
Lets face it this odious little man is exposed and banged to rights with substantive, corroborated, cross referenced facts as a liar, a cheat, corrupt, dishonest and happy to act criminally to gain his self interested ambitions.
This is not a dredge through half informed ancient history and missquotes, this is not smears and innuendo, this is not dishonest implications, nor idiotic fantasies presented as fact but actual fact backed by hard evidence – yet in the name of UKIP this odious excrecence of a man comes out with this comment:
‘I just want it clearly stated they are liers however small the readership’
OK McGough please identify a single solitary lie of any deliberate nature or material consequence that has appeared on either my blog or that of Junius – minded of the facts CLICK HERE
Mick McGough you are a contemptible serial liar and/or a natural low life as you have shown and has been proven – sadly you are not the only one in UKIP’s claque or its leadership clique with the likes of Derek Clark, David Bannerman, Marta Andreasen, Gawain Towler, Godfrey Bloom, Douglas Denny, Lisa Duffy, Gerard Batten, Peter Reeve, Mark Croucher, Tom Wise and so many more.
Little wonder UKIP in its present state has shown itself to be no part of the solution with consistently low support at the ballot box for British politics and is in fact a very major part of the problem related to our membership of The EU and public desire to Leave-The-EU.
UKIP has lost all credibility in British politics as the ballot box shows. Yet it is noted these low lifes are welcome with open arms by the extremists, racists, anti Jewish, anti Muslim, anti homosexual, advocates of membership of the EU with reform & improvement of control over vassal regions, advocates of violent xenophobia and the utter scum of EUropean politics – what an embarrassment for Britain that UKIP are in cahoots with such trash in The Pan EU Political EFD Group!
But McGough clearly has some pretty questionable friends
I note Paul Weston of the British Freedom Party seen by many as extremist & racist:  http://t.co/e55TLcSK read their material & judge for yourself: CLICK HERE
And then people wonder what I mean by CLEAN-UP UKIP to make it fit for decent informed individuals to vote for to lead or at least parade the values of Leave-The-EU.
Rather than listen to the low lifes of UKIP leadership clique and its odious claque why not take me up on my offer of many years standing – either phone me or arrange to meet me and check THE FACTS.
I am firmly on record as offering to be cross examined regarding the facts I publish on my blogs at any public meeting I can reasonably attend where I will be all too happy to contribute to my aims to work for the cause of Leave-The-EU and towards that aim to seek to Clean-Up UKIP and expose corruption, dishonesty and deceit in public office towards better Governance of Britain and the peoples of these United Kingdoms by the peoples of these United Kingdoms in Britain as a sovereign and independent nation.
The likes of proven liars and self serving low lifes like Mick McGough are clearly bringing UKIP, CIB, TFA etc. into disrepute and hugely assisting The EU by undermining the credibility of the EUroSceptic Movement.
UKIP leadership and the perception it is The Farage Party and the dictatorial controls held by Farage and his clique similarly give a clear air of corruption to add to the already obvious corruption of UKIP as it now is with the incredibly low calliber of its officers, staff and claque does absolutely nothing to help the EUroSceptic cause and it is an undeniable fact that UKIP is of great help to The EU in providing the semblance and pretence of democracy in that they can claim there is an opposition in the EU yet when that opposition jumps through every EU hoop to enrich its leadership and is seen at best as a bunch of inept clowns and at worst as a self serving clique of corrupt fools it does nothing for the aspirations of others to Leave-The-EU.
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Gary Cartwright on UKIP’s Incompetence +?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 26/07/2012

Gary Cartwright on UKIP’s Incompetence +?
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Gary Cartwright on UKIP’s Incompetence +?!

Minded that Gary Cartwright was a long term UKIP supporter & staff member – now working for The EU on behalf of non attached MEPs including Mike Nattrass, Trevor Coleman & Nikkie Sinclaire who have all refused to follow the corrupt diktat & incompetent leadership of Nigel Farage!

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Thursday, 26 July 2012

UKIP: Lack of Joined up Thinking, or Something Else?

 

UKIP never showed much of a propensity for joined up thinking. I well remember: the much vaunted policy paper launches which were embarrassing, with content being so controlled (and redacted) from above, and with the suggestion of unseen hands in the background that I eventually came to agree with Roger Knapman – architect of the 2004 Euro election success – that UKIP should have remained a one issue party.

I note an article on their party website complaining that a recently announced cut in wind energy subsidies is not enough – (complaining about wind energy is the party’s stock in trade). But I also note that in UKIP’s aged and out of date environment and energy policy, the party calls for 50% of Britain’s power to come from nuclear generation. I have no problem with that per se, in fact I contributed to that paper, but does the party not realise the extent to which nuclear energy is subsidised in the UK?

Subsidies for nuclear energy are largely disguised, a matter recently brought up with ministers by backbenchers in the Commons. For example: limitation of liabilities, underwriting of insurance costs, subsidising waste disposal, and most importantly providing institutional support for the concept of nuclear energy. Other areas of concern have been identified.

UKIP states in the article I refer to above that “The whole wind farm industry is a con and is not viable without subsidies. It is wrong that the taxpayer should be paying to keep afloat private businesses, often based abroad,…”

British energy, which operates nuclear plants, came close to bankruptcy in 2004, and was saved by, guess what, a government subsidy of £3billion. France’s EDF now owns 80% of British Energy.

Do you see what I mean about lack of joined up thinking?

But as regards UKIP’s position, we have to ask if it is indeed lack of joined up thinking, or is it those aforementioned unseen hands in the backgroung that are responsible for the lack of consistency, at least in this policy area? I personally suspect the latter.

 
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Hi,

isn’t it possibly just The Farage Party jumping on yet another shodily researched & crassly amateurly presented ‘Band Wagon’?

It becomes ever clearer that UKIP has become part of the problem – sustained by a claque of self interested hopefulls, willing to bully, abuse and lie to advance their own chances of enrichment & glory.

UKIP can not cite a single achievement of any consequence towards the aim of Leave-The-EU since 2004 & before that its only real achievement was Roger Knapman leading the party to 12 MEPs (helped by Nigel Farage having lied to Killroy Silk to get him on board & dumped David Lott to ride on the popularity & achievements of Ashley Mote with whom he arbitrarily replaced him – both of whom he stabbed in the back at the first opportunity, standing by his other protege the criminal Tom Wise who gave him some of the stolen money to settle his debts!).

12 MEPs, huge opportunities & huge amounts of money squandered to turn it into The Farage Party, with Farage given near dictatorial powers & falling out with 1/3rd of his own MEPs as he put in place staff who were indebted to him personally for their jobs, thereby ensuring a cabal of protection from willing nebishes!

IF Farage Quit has he so damaged the brand as to ensure it would wither & die, as clearly there is no one of consequence to take over nor any staff or officers of integrity with any morality or integrity. The MEPs collude in silence over the undeniable corruption either in fear of Farage or pure self interested greed – mostly happy to feed on the bribes tolerating or in some cases actively promoting race hatred, religious bigotry, anti homosexuality, nepotism and the trappings of delusional importance.

Farage built the party, helping others who were leaders, in turning it into The Farage Party for lack of ANYONE of probity, competence, gravitas or ability; has he destroyed the very vehicle that has enriched him, after his catastrophic failure in The City before he became a career politician?

It does seem that part of UKIP’s lack of joined up thinking has led to it being a one man band & irrelevant in the cause of Leave-The-EU moving between ‘BandWagon’ jumping, foolish stunts & crassly amateur low grade or even bad publicity!

It is sad to see the party & ideals I supported destroyed & as Gary Cartright implies, there is still an outside chance it could be ‘cleaned-up’ and made Fit for Purpose.

As to this latest ‘Band Wagon’ it is self evident that ONLY via Nuclear energy can Britain ever hope to supply its energy needs and surely it is better to subsidise success than the profits of the con artists with their ugly and ultimately effectively useless windmills. 

I have no problem with subsidy of British supplied British needs – currently we grossly subsidise The EU scam at the rate of £50Billion a day at a current cost of £750 each per annum! How can it be sensible to fund and or subsidise call centers in India & The Phillipines and French suppliers of energy and water whilst subsidies to continental farmers put our bovine interests out of business our pig farmers under Danish ownership and our egg producers at a disadvantage.

Perhaps The Farage Party could be tempted to ‘clean-up’ and start to deliver having achieved absolutely nothing since 2004 save ride the ‘Band Wagon’ of the public’s increasing awareness of the catastrophic nature of membership of The EU – no part of that increase in awareness can UKIP claim as The Farage Party did not even oppose The Lisbon Treaty nor provide literature or trained people to deliver the message – they just don’t do ‘joined up thinking’.

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Hi,

I also thought this posting of Gary Cartwright’s was interesting minded that he WAS a long term supporter of UKIP and WAS employed by UKIP:
http://gary-brusselsblog.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/whats-in-word.html

Obviously he has made many other comments on UKIP!

I understand that Gary Cartwright is currently NOT employed by UKIP or any UKIP MEP past or present but is directly employed by The EU on behalf of The Non Assigned Independent MEPs and has been assigned, no doubt for convenience of language and association with their aims to Leave-The-EU to Trevor Colman & Mike Nattrass who have rejected the leadership of Farage and membership of his squalid money making machine The EFD and also is assigned to Nikki Sinclaire MEP who rejected working with Farage’s racist, xenophobic, anti Jewish, anti homosexual, anti Muslim Reformist Nationalist self interest group in The EU.

There are some who claim she was thrown out of UKIP subsequently as she is both openly homosexual and also a patriotic withdrawalist with ideas (viz: her Referendum Petition with which she forced Parliament to hold a full debate on Leave-The-EU).

There is no doubt Nikki Sinclaire’s determination to be transparent and act with integrity & probity investing a substantial amount of her own money in the Leave-The-EU cause has proved embarrassing for the corrupt self serving MEPs in UKIP’s Group.

We note for instance David Bannerman who consistently lies and misleads has been only too willing to hop from party to party out of self interest and can be trusted as far as one could kick him, having openly stated that if he could get a script adopted (read) in Hollywood he would leave politics AND Britain immediately!

OR Gerard Batten who besides enriching his family uses UKIP to produce and distribute his vile overt racists incitements, particularly regarding Islam, in defence of his own chosen superstitions and religious cult.

OR Nigel Farage who pays his wife £30K a year for her services and banks beyond the reach of the British tax man ‘little people’ have to fund with complex trusts, such as The Farage Educational Trust in The Isle of Man etc.

OR Gerard Batten with his employment of family members and apparent failure to clearly differentiate between his other money making enterprises and his duties as an MEP. OR his abuse of elected office when arrested copulating with a black prostitute on the bonnet of a car in a public street using his elected office as shelter claiming diplomatic imunity etc. etc.

Read the rest of my blogs for many many more examples and the factual evidence to back them.

IF you foolishly believe I am ion any way paid to acquit what I consider to be my patriotic duty in exposing corruption on the public purse – please do not judge me by your values! As to the veracity of my blogs see CLICK HERE

Let us not forget it was Sinclaire who first published her full accounts auditted on line; it would seem as a result all sorts of false allegations have been made against her – leading at this stage to a West Midlands Police investigation which seems to center on John Ison, her very much ex manager who had responsibility for her accounts when Nigel Farage controlled them and whether he set out to corrupt them deliberately to mislead the police and whether he acted in collusion with Nigel Farage or his agents.

It does seem farcical to claim or believe that an MEP might be guilty of fraud yet invested considerably more of their own money than the ‘claimed’ fraud.

Sadly I incline to agree with Gary Cartwright in his implications that UKIP is so befouled and corrupted it is unlikely to be fixable with Farage in situe and I incline to believe his destruction of the party for his own gain has reduced it to an irrelevance as clearly there is no one of stature or competence in the leadership team or on the staff – There can not be as without exception they have colluded in the corruption as not one can claim to have spoken out against it.

Read Gary Cartwright’s blog – check out the FACTS on The Junius Blog and at:
htt://UKIP-vs-EUkip.com
see what a huge array of talent has been driven away:

UKIP Members – QUIT

Then read the comments of people like Dr. Eric Edmond, Dr Richard North and juxtaposition that with the dishonesty, outright lies and criminal behaviour of the likes of Mick McGough, Gerard Batten, Derek Clark, David Bannerman, Stuart Parr, Godfrey Bloom, Stuart Agnew and their ilk – not to mention a host of Farage sock puppets on and off of his staff with silly names to hide their lies behind.

It would be nice to think that the party people like Gary Cartwright, Niall Warry, the Junius posters, myself, Nikki Sinclaire, Petrina Holdsworth, Dr. Edmond, Dr. Abbott, myself and so many others once supported could be revivified but sadly the greed and personal agendas & ambition of the sordid clique leading UKIP and its claque will fight tooth and nail to hang onto their bloated income stream.

But we can but try – until an organisation of probity, vision, competence and gravitas is able to step up to the plate to lead Britain to Leave-The-EU – preferably before its collapse as then it can be done in an orderly manner unlike the rout in Iran and the idiocy and failure in Afghanistan that reflects British political elite of today!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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A Roundup & A Bit More ;-)

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/07/2012

A Roundup & A Bit More 😉
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I note that the long past mainstream DJ Mike Read is being hugely promoted as some achievement as a convert for UKIP – Is it imagination or does UKIP only catch the spent shells rather than command the respect of the full round!

I remember Mike Read from the days of Radio Caroline where he broadcast but I presume he never moved on and remained in either children’s entertainment or as the oldest swinger in town with some obscure kids programme as I had not heard of him since unlike a number of the successes from those days like Tony Blackburn.

Just a quick check on Wiki & clearly I am wrong as he did not start as a broadcaster until much later & was on Radio Luxembourg so NOT with iconic names like DLT, Simon Dee, Tony Blackburn & the like on Caroline!
I was right in my assumtion of his obscurity as I was out of Britain in the ’70s and his manstream carreer seems brief as he left the BBC in 1991 but hung on in the business in local radio so perhaps I can be forgiven for not having heard of him.
However I did think the juxtaposition on the UKIP controlled forum which was a little unkind to this elderly DJ!
What he is expected to bring to UKIP in political competence, gravitas, vision or even cash they fail to mention!
I guess when one has no one of any probity or gravitas I guess that means you have to make the most of such as he.
To be fair UKIP do have a genuine economist on board but like most economists he tends not to say the right things at the right time letting his theories overide political expediency rather frequently in his attacks on UKIP & denounciation of its leadership from time to time!
I do note – as I Twittered previously – he has taken up on the idea that we launched on EUroRealist several years ago when Harry Randall kindly produced a costing of EU membership updating it every 1/4; as he assured me, not so very complex as it was based upon the Government Pink Book produced 1/4ly.
The concept was later taken up using public money, by Gerard Batten and I believe his brother was in some way involved with the printing – for Gerard Batten to claim his brother is retired, as he has recently, was of course bunkum unless he made so much out of his nepotistic relationship with Batten he decided to retire!
Anyway – to continue you will find Tim Congdon’s more recent developement of our idea very helpfull I’m sure as he does have his own economic think tank to back his theories and it will be interesting to compare his version of the cost of EU membership with William Hague’s planned assessment!
You will be pleased to note that Tim Congdon has generously made his information readily available and has also badged a version for UKIP’s benefit see CLICK HERE for the early drafts he has made available.
You may well find some of his papers at IMR Ltd of help in understanding the global economic problems and particularly those of The UK as a result of EU membership.
I believe that William Hague’s planned assessment will be all too prone to presenting the costs of membership of the EU from the corrupt self serving position of the political elite, who do so well out of it, at the expense of the British peoples who are paying £50Million a day or a sum equivalent to £750 per annum per citizen!
I note the efforts of Dr. Richard North, Niall Warry and others to draw up, via their ‘Harrogate Agenda’, a Chartist style 6 points or key resolutions to seek better Governance. Sadly a thankless task as it runs counter the ambitions of self serving groups like the political elites including UKIP, CIB and Better Off Out who all have their personal ambitions far before the needs of these United Kingdoms and our peoples.
That which does not threaten such ambitions would seem to fall foul of the egos of the many inadequates in their entorage!

I stress again my support for the stated original values, principles and aims of UKIP, still espoused by some of its members but clearly not just suffused but rejected by its leadership who know no vile act of false witness, dishonesty and bullying too low to stoop to to defend their personal ambitions – So very redollent of the political elite relative to The EU of which UKIP leadership have become a very real part now seemingly enemies of liberty seeking by defamation to suppress free speech, honest beliefs and even criticism be it constructive or not.

UKIP have clearly, in becoming the antithesis of Libertarian or even for that matter probity, intergrity and ethicality, it has become very much a part of the problem increasingly clearly with no part in the solution.
To listen to those rewarded from the public purse preaching and persecuting others whilst trousering huge sums of money relative to the incomes of many who contribute to their well being and then banking beyond the reach of British tax authorities as does Nigel Farage with his sophisticated trusts in The Isle of Man and his Belgian bank accounts perks exploited by many amongst the political elite particularly those exploiting their positions in The EU.
We then have their ambitious claque with the timmerity to lie and dissemble in their attempts to defame dedicated EUroRealists who dare to point out the corruption!
Mouth Wide Open – Eyes Shut
More Lies Due Any Second!!
Consider the constant childish name calling of buffoons like Mick McGough who do The EU’s work for them and seek to defame critics of the corruption of UKIP which so undermines The EUroSceptic cause – unlike his puppet masters, whose coat tails he hangs onto, people like myself, Niall Warry, Richard North, Junius and many more are motivated by our honest beliefs, honestly held so astonishing to one with his ‘morality’ who can not understand duty or belief and is insistence we all act as he would ‘for money’!
The comments and chatterings of such as Mick McGough and an army of cowards bullying on the internet to seek to intimidate to suppress the truth speaks volumes of the calliber of those who have risen to destroy UKIP as a principled and honourable organisation.
Consider this idiotic comment from Mick McGough and do remember this is the odious little man who colluded with Andrew Smith in the corruption of the accounts of UKIP and for which Andrew Smith as treasurer quit and ran from the post when challenged even having circulated eMails advocating and advising how UKIP senior members as to how to cheat The Electoral Commission. An eMail published in full by me some ages ago!
It was that eMail which was a strong part of The Electoral Commissions case against6 UKIP – which as many will remember UKIP lost hands down, only protecting themselves from even greater sentence by invoking and sheltering from British Justice by the device of EU protection!
Do remember it was after all Mick McGough who was so clearly exposed and displayed as a liar who had set out to cheat his colleagues and the electorate – set out in UKIP’s Returning Officer’s own report on corruption in UKIP’s own corrupt methods – that minded note his comment:
Allegedly ?
Being cautious are we Niall? So unlike your lying puppet master who posts without corroboration or due diligence.

Rather than smoke with fire I think you’ll find they’re the remarks of a foreign woman scorned;another example of what we’ve had to endure from unlimited uncontrolled immigration from the EU.

Strange isn’t it that you ,Junius and GLW support the likes of the benefit fraudster Mote and another under investigation .
What a perverse world you inhabit;thank God you are in the minority

Let us fisk this item by item as a matter of record:
Allegedly ?
A device which has no validity under law as shelter from dishonesty.
Being cautious are we Niall?
Clearly not as it would seem that since he has not seen the wealth of documentary provenance and may not have witnesses of Gertard Batten’s racist statements and behaviour he has warned that in his case he is speaking to allegations made.
So very redollent of the standard of integrity of Mick McGough that he tries to smear by distortion!
So unlike your lying puppet master who posts without corroboration or due diligence.
Mick McGough seems to be only too willing to oiverlook his own libellous comments as he is completely unaware of the dilligence taken, nor the corroboration accrued nor even the documentary support of the facts published – yet he is all too willing to lie to support his claims and invent material to make his case.
Those who know Niall Warry or anything of him will appreciate just what fools they make of themselves in the pretence that he acts as ANYONE’s puppet!
Niall Warry is no McGough and acts out of duty, patriotism and principle.

Rather than smoke with fire I think you’ll find they’re the remarks of a foreign woman scorned;another example of what we’ve had to endure from unlimited uncontrolled immigration from the EU.

Yet another very typical example of UKIP’s insidious racism and xenophobia – What evidence does McGough have that Jasna Badzak, a victim of the largely EU created war in The Balkans I understand is now a legitimate resident in The UK married and if not actually  an assylum seeker clearly justified in her presence on those grounds.

Even the undeniably racist Gerard Batten with his vile rants about Islam and foreigners willingly employed this particular ‘foreigner’ Mick McGough defames as an ‘alien’ in one post and a perfidious and dishonest ‘foreigner’ in another. Might this be a case of an Irishman by origin seeking inclusivity one wonders just as the trustees in the death camps of The EU of Germany were as Jews willing to curry favour by abusing other Jews for their Nazi masters!

Strange isn’t it that you ,Junius and GLW support the likes of the benefit fraudster Mote

Perhaps Mick McGough – rather than seek to defame could identify where those at Junius, Niall Warry or I have EVER endorsed criminality – Whether in respect of Ashley Mote or any other, yet I well remember the vile attacks and criminality of those in UKIP which I endured, by way of both harrassment, cyber bullying and defamatory lies and distortion, as they set aout to protect Tom Wise who I denounced as a criminal yet UKIP took no action of any consequence save in seeking to defame me!

You may recall the list of dishonest and corrupt UKIP leadership and those in its claque who set out to cover-up the criminality of Tom Wise and who lied and distorted, bore false witness and sought to defame me for having the timerity to denounce his corruption that led to his prison sentence for two years:

and another under investigation .
I doubt somehow that Mick McGough is alluding to Stuart Agnew or David Bannerman who are under investigation by OLAF, nor of Gerard Batten who is I umnderstand under investigation, nor even Derek Clark who was found guilty of theft from the public purse and ordered top repay a considerable amount of money and is I believe still subject of investigation by The British Police having had the OLAF file passed to them – let us not forget when I denounced Dererk Clark for his fraud as boasted of in public and his dishonesty and corruption how UKIP claque in efforts to curry favour attacked me.
Even now Derek Clark lies to the regional committee and has regularly lied about me and made efforts to defame me – Yet again the facts have proved me right and Derek Clark has been exposed as a liar and a cheat, a low life beneath contempt who abuses his office for gain – let us not forget that it was I who published the details when he carried outNigel Farage’s bidding to obtain new members in his grubby little EU Group which would earn him more money and control of wehat was then the 400 budeget now renamed  to obfuscate yet still under Farage’s control, as with the budget for international travel which seem to be used, not for travel which he has denied UKIP MEPs but actually seems to use as bribes to buy extremist MEPs from other countries at UKIP expense!
Similarly I doubt Mick McGough is alluding to Graham Booth who was found guilty of fraudulent abuse of the public purse and ordered to repay the money or Jeffrey Titford or Nigel Farage who have similarly been found guilty of defrauding the public purse and ordered to repay monies.
Similarly I doubt he is referring to the fact that Nigel Farage was recently called in by the British Police and questioned regarding allegations of fraud against another that would seem to be in themselves dishonest and we gather the aim was to establish just how close to the corruption Nigel Farage’s position is and whether it was an act instigated on his instruction.
Nor I presume is Mick McGough alluding to the potential for follow up action in the High Courts against Nigel Farage, Godfrey Blook and UKIP which has been temporarily set aside by Nikki Sinclaire who received an unequivocal apology subsequent to the guilty verdict against Farage, Bloom and UKIP and there are those who believe that in an effort to avoid High Court action the ambitions of a gullible and stupid dupe John Ison was exploited to try to defame Nikki Sinclaire with falsified accounts which John Ison was paid to keep in order!
What a perverse world you inhabit;thank God you are in the minority
I fully understand why the likes of Mick McGough ‘thank their Gods’ that the likes of Junius, Niall Warry and myself are in a minority – it is a sad reflection that he perceives the honest who risk the wrath of the corrupt by exposing the truth are in a minority.
Again and again the odious claque of UKIP befoul the aims of the majority of their members by their desperate attempts to suppress the truth.
What party finds the obscene racist behaviour as covered on You Tube and in a double page spread in The News of The World not only acceptable but permitted Malcolm Lord Pearson to be their leader and never once denounced his behaviour.
Just what party of duty as an elected representative of the peoples of London are the vile attacks on Islam by Gerard Batten and his seeming efforts to incite racial hatred (seems to work noting Mick McGough’s veiled racism!).
What censure of UKIP’s present leader was ever made for his childish insecurity and drunken exploits with a prostitute that found UKIP with a double page spread in the same Sunday Paper.
The good folk of UKIP do not even have the courage to denounce the vile behaviour of the drunken clown Godfrey Bloom – no doubt to scared of the odious UKIP attack dogs in the harrassment claque who they know would round on them if they dared to denounce his childish and irresponsibility urinating in the corridors of Expensive Hotels he stays in as a rep[resentative of UKIP and OUR Country.
They do not even comment or censure when he is arrested copulating with a black prostitute on  the bonnet of a car in a public street in Brussels and subsequently pleading ‘diplomatic immunity’ to avoid charges or was that when he was arrested for absconding from a bordello in an effort to avoid paying for the affections and services he had bought!

Just as now it is noted that many in UKIP are harrassing me and dishonestly defaming me for having the timerity to publish material that is in the public domain already regarding Gerard Batten – material which would seem largely if not totally to be true.

May I remind readers that Gerard Batten has publicly lied about me, corrupted justice and colluded with Derek Clark & Douglas Denny to prevent justice in the case of the Kangeroo Cort held against Peter Baker.
Gerard Batten has further sought to intimidate and suppress the truth and wasted police time in abuse of his office very deliberately to dishonestly harrass me bearing false witness to seek to have the police act unlawfully on his behalf.
It is the very many proven instances of corruption on the part of Gerard Batten and his criminal associates and extemist chums that leads me to believe that in substance the material received from Jasna Badzak which has been published is in fact true.
Perhaps it is her intention that Gerard Batten acts against her for providing the material so that she can lay out the full documentary evidence and evidence she holds – frankluy I do NOT know and obviously I shall not publish further material I hold without it either being presented elsewhere in the public domain or should I receive further corroboration and substantiation.
As I have stated Gerard Batten is perfectly at liberty to request a right of reply or if he is able to present evidence that the facts provided are untrue I will obviously publish the full details and a detailed apology for having presumed that alt6hough I inclined to believe the evidence of Jasna Badzak I had not published until it was in the public domain and have only published that which is to date.
I stress again CLICK HERE clearly the aim is to publish the truth not sink to the level of falsehood, name calling and childish defamatory comments of UKIP so as to Clean-Up UKIP and try to make it electable to represent the cause of Leave-The-EU for decent honourable and informed individuals not just see it as a rather unpleasant clique of self serving low lifes kept in place by the ambitions of the claque of fools and charlattans mostly on the make an the take!
To be fair Mick McGough is not the only slime in the pack here are the comments of some coward passing themselves off as Arthur Fonzarelli to lie and dissemble:
I nearly choked on a latte when I read that Mr Warry. That’s because here you are, doing the dirty work of Mr Lance-Watkins and the Junius owners (all of whom are banned from here for refusing to substantiate allegations made) and I’m sure if push came to shove, they would drop you like a hot coal. Indeed, there are a number of people who have over the years had every last bit of use squeezed from them by Mr Lance-Watkins and then thrown aside as if they were yesterday’s newspaper. So yet again, you amuse me with your short-sightedness
Let us consider this self serving drivel:
I nearly choked on a latte when I read that Mr Warry.
Pretentious and rather silly – who cares?
That’s because here you are, doing the dirty work of Mr Lance-Watkins and the Junius owners
Perhaps it has not occurred to AF as a result of their motivation by money or the normality of doing the bidding of others that someone like Niall Warry carries out his own beliefs in his own right with honesty and integrity to try to clean-up UKIP as a long term supporter and even longer term EuroSceptic.
A EUroSceptic with varied success but a 100% track record of making such efforts as he can and at his own expense – unlike so many of his critics in UKIP!
(all of whom are banned from here for refusing to substantiate allegations made)
A LIE I was NOT banned for making false allegations I was banned for consistently repeating the truth and every single posting I ever made on the UKIP controlled forum in question is and was 100% verifiable and verified but one can hardly expect an apology from someone who lacks the integrity and ethics to put their name to their defamatory lies!
and I’m sure if push came to shove, they would drop you like a hot coal.
I can not speak for those at Junius though I have no reason to believe these claims to be one iota more accurate about Junius than they are lies with regard to me!
Indeed, there are a number of people who have over the years had every last bit of use squeezed from them by Mr Lance-Watkins and then thrown aside as if they were yesterday’s newspaper.
Another defamatory lie from the dishonest coward – NAME ONE!
So yet again, you amuse me with your short-sightedness
Sadly there is absolutely nothing about the damage done to The EUroSceptic movement by liars and cowards like this odious little creep, who unfortunately is representative of so many who debase and befoul UKIP, making it unfit for purpose as reflected by its abysmal track record at the ballot box of British Politics with less than 30 seats held through election out of some 19,500 available – clearly after nearly 20 years they can only be seen as an abject failure.
UKIP due to the likes of its leadership, staff, candidates and officers is not only unfit for purpose but contemptible in its racism, anti homosexuality, indifference to democratic principles, self seeking, self enriching, anti Judaism, fear of Islam and sordid associates be they British criminals like Gregory Lauder-Frost seen by most respomnsible individuals as an extremist or the gutter extremists of EU politics in their contemptible EFD Group which 1/3rd of UKIP’s own MEPs refuse to sit with despite the money it makes Nigel Farage!
To quote Nigel Farage:
The UK is no closer to a referendum

One has to concede he is probably right on this point but lets face it he and UKIP seem to have done almost everything possible to block the very successfull efforts of Nikki Sinclaire in this direction and when she and she alone led a campaign which UKIP refused to participate in she managed to gather a team and invest both her expenses and her own income in gaining well over 100,000 signatures and forcing Parliament at Westminster to have a full blown debate on the matter.

Yet we had the odious spectacle of Farage acting the charlatan and turning up to TRY to steal the praise for Nikki Sinclaire’s achievements.
Many will remember when UKIP allegedly organised a petition when it did seem that well over £1/4Million of tax payers money wound up in the pockets of David Lott, Nigel Farage and Mark Croucher as the so called organiser of a petition that never took place and can only have been so crassly and incompetently organised deliberately!
Indeed we are no closer to a referendum and it would noty be unreasonable to say – largely due to Nigel Farage’s Party – whether by incompetence, dishonesty or design I leave it to you to weigh the evidence!
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That UKIP has a liar and low life like McGough on its NEC as a spokesman & The CIB & The Freedom Association associate with such an odious fantasist speaks volumes of their current ability to represent EUroScepticism!

Obviously IF there is EVER an In/Out Referendum the likes of McGough will preclude any possibility such organisations will have of being taken seriously – Sadly he is not the only fool in UKIP leadership clique and its claque in fact they seem without one iota of gravitas or credibility!

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Nigel Farage MEP and Michael McGough (Photo credit: The Freedom Association)

Mick McGough is a proven liar and a cheat who was exposed as a liar and cheat by the report of UKIP’s returning officer having lied to deceive the electorate in selection as an MEP to fulfil his personal ambitions & no doubt for personal gain!

His desperate distortions and utterly irresponsible and repetitive misrepresentations are, one is forced to assume, deliberately damaging to the EUroSceptic movement  – for it is hard to conjecture any other reason he makes such a fool of himself with his lies and criminally obsessive behaviour under law.

You will note this odious excrecence’s foolish fantasies and dishonesties below in starting a thread on Anthony Butcher’s UKIP controlled public forum when he is, rather embarrassingly, on UKIP’s NEC!!
Here is his foolish thread and the responses so far – I have commented clearly prefixed G.L-W>> & ended <<
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    Is it because they are paid to do so?

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    G.L-W>> An interesting speculation which he makes time and again without a shred of evidence in an attempt to dishonestly defame despite clear statements from myself and others as to EXACTLY why as a dedicated EUroRealist I have supported UKIP as founded, for many years and seek to expose the corruption and lies of the likes of Mick McGough and those like him who use it as a vehicle for their own dishonesties and those using it to fulfil personal ambitions and self enrichment!

     

    Please be assured that I have not, am not and never have been paid in any shape manner or form for my totslly consistent track record of opposition to Britain’s membership of The EU.<<

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    It amazes me that no one seems to know who ‘Junius’ is (?).
    I can’t think anyone pays GLW, as his writing style is so off-putting.

    G.L-W>> It is hardly surprising that those who post under the name of Junius retain their anonimity, as if their identities were known it is unlikely that they would be able to obtain much of the information of corruption, dishonesty, racism, bullying and abuse that are prevalent in UKIP’s heirarchy – not to mention the utter incompetence that makes them unfit for purpose as any kind of standard bearer for EUroScepticism.

    As to my writing style I can respect the opinion given and just as some may find the style ‘off putting’ the reade4rship figures of the material I have written over the years would indicate others may find it of interest – Each to his own!

    Just rather a pity this individual lacks the conviction of his comments to put his name to them – a cowards option which demeans the value of tyhe comments!<<

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    Splendid question Mr McGough.

    G.L-W>> some indication of the motivation and stupidity of this cowardly poster! <<

    If only we had an idea because I personally do not believe that they want to ‘clean up UKIP’ as they claim, rather they wish to destroy it.

    G.L-W>> Further proof that this poster is without doubt wrong with regard to myself and also I believe with regard to those who post at Junius – there is clear proof that I have consistently worked to try to ‘Clean-up’ UKIP from exposing the frauds of Tom Wise aided by Lindsay Jenkins and the attempts of Nigel Farage, Mike Nattrass, Roger Helmer, Bob Feel Martinis, Mick McGough, Anthony Butcher and others to protect this criminal who was eventually sentenced to 2 years in prison for his false accounting, fraud, embezelling and theft from the public purse in abuse of his elected office of trust!

     

    Perhaps this idiot presenting with the fake name would have the integrity to be identified or as I suspect are they merely protecting their position and that of others exploiting UKIP & EUroScepticism for personal gain.

     

    His comments are clearly fantasies without a shred of substantive provenance – no wonder they are too ashamed to put their name to their dishonesty.<<

    The latest claims against Mr Batten should indeed prove to be their undoing and I dearly hope Mr Batten will be consulting his lawyers in due course.

    G.L-W>> Gerard Batten has a track record proven and in the public domain of association with those reasonable individuals would consider to be racist, extremist and criminal. Further Gerard Batten has provably acted in a manner that is indubitably dishonest, corrupt and holding Justice in contempt.

    Gerard Batten has beyond any doubt acted in a manner likely to be considered an incitement to racial hatred based on his personal superstitions, fears and beliefs.

     

    That known about Gerard Batten and the duplicitous exploitation of his position to seek to suppress the truth and waste Police time by bearing false witness is beyond doubt – Thus the publication of Jasna Badzak was I believe made in good faith by those at Junius – in an effort to expose corruption within UKIP leadership as Junius have so many times before.

     

    To date I am not aware of a single solitary item posted of any material fact that is consequentially wrong or in any way untrue on their blog.

     

    Just as to date NEVER has it been shown that a single fact of any consequence published on my blog was untrue, false or dishonest, or even designed to mislead.<<

    It is very interesting to see the lack of honour among the chief protagonists with Mr Edwards now claiming that Junius may have been set up into publishing false information, a charge that is rejected by both Mr Lance-Watkins and (given their links to Mr Lance-Watkins’ rebuttal) the Junius team.

    G.L-W>> Perhaps the dishonourable coward making these allegations could identify with evidence how Junius or myself have in any way acted dishonourably – unlike himself! <<

    It would appear that the net is closing on the Junius team and this may have been one lie too many

    G.L-W>> Perhaps rather than fantasise the cowardly and dishonouarble poster could identify a single solitary ‘lie’ that Junius has written in many 100s of postings.

    Rather than dishonestly imply that somewhere Junius has ‘lied’ an example would add credibility to this cowardly low life’s anonimous postings and inuendo.<<

    – my personal belief is tht the Junius team have shown an almost Mr Warry like speed to publish the claims without seeking to verify them

    G.L-W>> I note this cowardly excrecence is seeking to defame with a broad brush demeaning themselves by so doing as clearly Mr. Warry has like Junius and I merely acted in good faith as a EUroRealist of long standing, in efforts to ‘clean-up’ UKIP seeking an organisation fit for purpose to represent or lead the EUroSceptic movement. <<

    – the headline is, for them on this occasion, to good to resist. Big mistake

    G.L-W>> So even underhand cowards have opinions though clearly he is not adequately convinced to put his name to his malicious self serving fantasies.<<

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    Its a falling out among thieves.

    G.L-W>> I resent and reject the implication in the attempt to smear and defame that I am or have ever been a thief or have ever acted dishonestly or dishonourably.

    I note even the poster is insufficiently convinced of his fantasy to put his name to his dishonesty.<<

    GLW used to get party inside information from Nigel Farage

    G.L-W>> May I ask what evidence the cowardly poster can present to support his claim and as there is none perhaps they will have the integrity to withdraw the allegation and apologise having the integrity to put his or her name to the correction. <<

    and used it to denigrate persons such as Mike Nattrass, Damian Hockney,etc.

    G.L-W>> Another dishonest and duplicitous effort to defame without a shred of evidence. <<

    Farage and he then fell out.

    G.L-W>> An outright lie – my opinion of Farage has not changed since I first became aware of him and I have NEVER fallen out with Farage – his insecurities are for him to deal with! <<

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    Trying to make mischief again I see mick!

    Let’s just assume for a second that this was a ‘set up’ then they have published a ‘set up lie’ not a direct lie.

    Also in years of publishing ‘stuff’ on the true nature of EUKIP I’d say Junius and GLW have been very accurate.

    And despite I’m sure Nigel and Co wishing to silence them only one court case over the copyright of a photograph which they LOST and have still to settle the costs.

    So they obviously are prepared to go to court so why not endless court cases against Junius and GLW?

    I’ll tell you why because Junius and GLW tell you how it is in EUKIP and don’t lie in what they report.

    Oh and BTW thanks mick for giving me the opportunity to explain the above to the viewing public to this forum.

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    G.L-W>> My thanks to Niall warry for his honourable effort to present the truth which is in virtually every aspect correct. <<
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    As you probably know Niall the coward GLW has in the past stopped posting about individuals because of threats of violence.

    G.L-W>> Yet another outright lie from Mick McGough in a desperate effort to defame and to save face for his consistent dishonesty.

    I have NEVER ceased to openly state the truth on any subject by threat of any kind from any source.

    Michael McGough your consistent dishonesty and outright misrepresentations and lies consistently bring EUroScepticism into disrepute and greatly aids the EU in discreditting the movement – Your actions are cowardly, contemptible and at times criminal.<<

    Trouble is most of those he attacks are too civilised and resorting to law is costly .

    G.L-W>> I have ALWAYS offered a right of reply, ALWAYS offered the right of correction of any point I have accidentally got wrong CLICK HERE and have consistently been willing to be cross examined in any public meeting on my statements and the exposure of corruption of those seeking to lead for gain at the expense of the public purse.

    Those who I have exposed are NOT gentlemen they are duplicitous low lifes and have clearly not resorted to law as a defence of ‘Veritas’ suffices in civilisation, despite the contemptible efforts to mislead by the likes of Mick mcGough and those in the UKIP claque.<<

    As a failed grubby second hand bookseller whose assets if any will be in his partner’s name is just not worth sueing.

    G.L-W>> Mick McGough demeans himself with this standard of childish and offensive comment which is so provably wrong, having founded the business and built it over the years never once seeking the assistance of any other party or any kind of public subsidies – Mick McGough was of corse an employed bean counter just another occupation as was mine.

    Rather satisfyingly, for me, was that from 1981 I was able to be self employed, with no boss, employing others and doing something I thoroughly enjoyed and despite health challenges was able to close our business with no debts as owner of the entire stock  which was extensive and support myself and my partner for some 7 years without recourse to benefits or the help of others.

    As for ‘grubby books’ one wonder what Mick McGough knows of books, clearly little if anything. Our most valuable stock item was some £20,000 and never once did we buy or sell any item of pornography as ALL our stock was on public display in 8 rooms and we were dependent on both families and parents for our livelihood.

     

    Mick McGough makes a fool of himself with his ill informed efforts to defame akin to his childish comments about pony tails and his efforts to defame based upon CLICK HERE & HERE<<

    But now he has gone too far by repeating the fantasies of an alien.

    Make sure you have clean nightwear Greg as the knock could come early one morning

    Where else will the knock come?

    Brussels,Bermondsey,Birmingham ? We must wait and see

    G.L-W>> Sadly UKIP leadership clique and its claque can hang their heads in shame as Mick McGough is by no means the only liar, criminal bully and fantasist in their ranks, which probably explains why UKIP in 20 years has been found guilty of fraud on so many occasions, has been proven to be liars, racists and damaging to the cause of Leave-The-EU with their contemptible behaviour.

    Not only was Tom Wise their MEP sent to prison for his theft but Mike Nattrass is well documented as having sought to protect him on the grounds that ALL UKIP MEPs were on the fiddle – as we have subsequently had proved to us with Derek Clark, despite his lies and dishonesty and contemptible efforts to dishonestly defame, had to repay a sizeable amount of money he had obtained fraudulently.

    Other UKIP MEPs who have been proven to fraudulently obtain money and have been forced to repay the money include, Graham Booth, Jeffrey Titford, Nigel Farage meanwhile I understand allegations have been made that are being investigated regarding Gerard Batten as with the investigation of David Bannerman and Stuart Agnew by OLAF which is ongoing.

    UKIP a party of increasingly little relevance, largely due to the incompetence of its leadership, the incredibly low calliber of its MEPs, the staggering ineptitude of its officers and staff and its fractured squabbling nature as they all seem all too willing to parade their differences and stab eachother in the back to jockey for position.

    It would seem that so much money has been stolen and misappropriated by those in positions of supposed trust in UKIP they are clearly not to be trusted, and clearly aren’t trusted by the public, with less than 30 elected seats in British politics out of some 19,500 available, after 20 years!<<

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Andrew Edwards stirs the pot re: Gerard Batten & Junius!

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Much additional factual information on Gerard Batten can be found if you CLICK HERE 
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further to the posting regarding Gerard Batten published by JUNIUS and subsequently at CLICK HERE I have received an eMail from Andrew Edwards which I gather he has also widely circulated – I therefore take the liberty of commenting in text to clarify some of his inaccuracies and false assumptions.
.Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:53:26 +0100
From: andrew.edwards1@blueyonder.co.uk
To:
Subject: Fwd: Re: http://juniusonukip.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/gerard-batten-former-member-of-ukips.htmlI think this ‘Junius’ article is more than a little fishy!

Can someone here pass these comments on to ‘Junius’, please, ASAP?

I understand Junius has been made aware of Andrew Edwards’ comments and his rather ‘fishy’ effort to capitalise on the blog posted, by circulating it to his usual mailing list!

Junius needs to beware of a possibly sting operation

This is an omni present risk for those posting at Junius and one I am also exposed to – deliberately on some occasions by UKIP I believe, so that they can, by providing false information, dupe me to publish material that is false and they can be then use that to try to prove I deliberately lied or libeled them.

It is for this very reason that I tend only to publish when I have corroboration – fortunately I have clearly not fallen for such a ruse in the last 15 or 16 years of commenting as a UKIP supporter, laterly seeking to clean-up the party in an effort to try to make it fit for purpose and fit to represent decent British citizens, which it clearly is not currently.
Clearly I publish in good faith and have made it VERY clear that I only publish that which I have checked, received first hand or know to be fact – To cover for the ‘possibility’ that I may at some stage be duped by UKIP or a member of its clique or claque I have made it VERY CLEAR that I will always correct any posting and appologise should I unwittingly publish an error of fact or accidentaly, thereby, libel someone.
I tend also when posting to reserve judgement and NOT publish material I am unable to substantiate however should material surface published in the public domain I incline to believe this is substantiation.
Fortunately I have never ONCE been asked to make a correction relative to any inaccuracy of any material substance, nor have I been asked to publish either a correction an apology or a ‘right to reply’.
I am morally certain that had I EVER made an error of material fact and been shown to be wrong those I seek to expose for their corruption, dishonesty, criminality or abuse of privilege would make much of the fact.
For further clarity please view CLICK HERE you will be well aware that various odious proven liars like Mick McGough, Douglas denny, Bob Feel Martinis, Matt Quinn, David Icke and similar low lifes lie and distort for their own gain regarding me – there are also numerous cowards posting distortions and lies about me whilst sheltering their vile behaviour behind anonymity or false names – as with those on UKIP staff and its claque.
IF anyone can identify a material factual inaccuracy please contact me and I WILL make suitable correction and apology as promised – should I fail to do so in a reasonable time by all means publish the fact widely and if I make no correction I would expect at very least a legal letter from your solicitor demanding published correction and apology by way of a cease and desist letter.
1 If this person is Batten’s ex press officer, why does he hide his name? His identity must be known, not least from the industrial tribunal.
I understand the person in question was titled ‘Press Officer’ buy Gerard Batten either as a shorthand or as an official title under EU employment regulations, as a staff member.
The individual did NOT hide their name – Junius chose to redact it.
Of course the identity is known and is a matter of public record, easily ascertained from the text of the correspondence and the allegations therein – it being Jasna Balzak who originates from the former Yugoslavia currently domicile in Britain and I believe is possibly a Muslim with a Jewish husband. 2 Batten does not have Parliamentary immunity.

Indeed the ‘immunities’ of an MEP are somewhat limited – though there are clearly some instances of immunity as shown when Godfrey Bloom, another UKIP MEP, was, I am reliably informed, not charged having been arrested for his conduct having sex with a black prostitute on the bonnet of a car in a public highway – I gather he claimed ‘immunity’ on the grounds that he was a UKIP / British MEP.
This only exists in those nations were MPs from such countries enjoy this privilege.
Certain immunities/privileges do pertain for British MEPs in line with the British MPs.
The UK does not provide immunity to its MPs so it does not do so to its MEPs. This demonstrates that the information supplied is erroneous.
Edwards would seem to be in error and may I also point out that the claim he seeks to make much of was in fact an alleged statement of Gerard Batten’s NOT of Jasna Balzak, where she has made the comment it would be relative to claims by Gerard Batten. 3 The English is flawed and illiterate, imho. Would Batten use an illiterate ASA press officer?

I wonder howmany languages Edwards is capable of coherency in! 4 Batten is married to an Eastern Asian. Would he therefore say the things attributed to him?

Sadly, having a wife of Phillipino origin, I have spoken with several people who can confirm the aspects of racist language are NOT unusual relative to Gerard Batten and perhaps you would care to follow the records in the public domain of organisations and publications which any decent person would consider racist and likely to invoke or incite race hatred if for no other reason than religion / superstition with which Gerard Batten is clearly associated.
5 Batten’s solicitors/advisor’s Solomon and Diamond are, in probability, Jewish – given the names. That suggests Batten would not have made such remarks.
Edwards’ racist stereotyping speaks volumes – I know of individuals with such names who are of no chosen denomination belief or superstition.
Should edward’s be correct then it might go some way to explain the apparent phobic fear of Muslims! 6 There are Parliamentary requirements regarding the printing of stationary, etc, and competing quotes must be obtained. I therefore do not believe these statements about Batten’s brother’s printing activities.

7 Junius should be advised of these points, above. Junius is being led up a garden path, in my view.

Clearly Edwards’ knowledge is limited, if not deliberately biased, this blog and I believe Junius have published copies of documentary proof that Gerard Batten has used family members to provide printing which it has been claimed was over priced to the advantage of the supplier. EU regulations on such matters are lax in the extreme with much regulation ‘made on the hoof’ by The EU payments officers.
Similar laxity is exploited by UKIP MEPs such as over payment of travel expenses, employment of family as proven relative also to Godfrey Bloom and in the case of Nigel Farage let us not forget he employs his wife @ £30,000 a year and despite his promises not only claimed the money but made a secret of it until exposed by The Sunday Times.
Let us not get too carried away in the pretence that UKIP MEPs are other than an untrusted and untrustworthy shower! Consider the publicity Nigel Farage has attracted, the lies and consistent dishonesty of Derek Clark MEP, the fact that Farage, Titford, Clark, Booth, Wise and possibly other UKIP MEPs have been found guilty of fraudulently claiming expenses and ordered to repay the sum,s stolen.
The question is why? I suspect, in answer to this, that a little truth (to provide credibility) has been mixed in with barrow loads of lies and exaggerations.
How right Edwards may be but the matter is clearly sourced and it is undeniable that Gerard Batten has a track record of duplicitously seeking to suppress the truth related to him and his activities! The logical reason is that the Euro elections are due in a little less than two years. Farage wants Batten out, and I suspect he or one of his supporters is using Junius to spread rumours as the start of a campaign against Batten. Naturally, to hide the trail, a few snippets about Farage have been added but these are all well-known anyway, and there is certainly no additional damaging news about Farage in this!

Though Edwards makes a not unreasonable comment in line with the expectations of many his deliberate smear, without evidence or source, of Nigel Farage is in itself transparently self serving! I’m fearful that ‘Juniu’s may also have exposed itself to legal action from Batten.

I doubt that Gerard Batten would have any reasonable grounds to take court actions against Junius as the material is clearly plausible in outline even if minor details, mostly linguistic, may not be 100% correct.
The comment ‘F*** out’ is clearly a linguistic error in reporting by Jasna Balzak as is the claim that the self styled ‘Christian’ organisation alluded to is provably NOT ‘Proscribed’ it may well be a linguistic misunderstanding but it may also be a claim made by Batten in Balsak’s presence.
If so, then Farage, and/or supporter, accomplishes two goals: he disparages Batten and he potentially knocks out Junius with legal action.
I do question whether Farage’s interests are served in the removal of Batten, firstly as his claimed replacement is of singularly little competence being  unemployed having been a clerical functionary as a ‘compliance officer’ for a London financial company (I hope he has managed to find another job).
Farage may well find it of help to have someone of so little credibility criticising him and drawing fire relative to critics of his party!
Clearly Gerard Batten’s open bigotry and fear of Islam is well documented as is his willingness to participate in the corruption of justice and abuse of his elected office.
I trust this helps clarify some of the misunderstandings that have arisen as a result of the publication of this small amount of the correspondence received recently by myself and Junius and no doubt others.
AGAIN I REPEAT – IF anyone can show any part of my posting is materially factually wrong they need only mail me their evidence to substantiate their claim and the relevant correction will be made as promised and should they wish they have a right of reply.
Fortunately NEVER have I been asked to correct any posting on a materially wrong fact that I have made on my blog. Therefore I do NOT believe that I have made any m,aterial errors of fact and obviously have not published any fact that I have ANY reason to believe was untrue.
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UKIP, The EFD, The EAF ALL have links to the EDL

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/07/2012

UKIP, The EFD, The EAF ALL have links to The EDL
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Hi,
ignore the protestations made so often by Nigel Farage & his puppets and muppets, whether using their own names or too ashamed to put their name to their behaviour and acting in cowardly anonymity.
There is absolutely no way UKIP can with any credibility claim moral high ground by standing on the political dung heap and crowing – They have a provable track record of dishonesty, bullying, cyber stalking, racism, anti homosexuality and outright lies which reaches the highest levels of their clique and its claque.
Although public opinion has always been little more than tolerant of membership of The EU by a tiny majority, having been duped and lied to by leaders like Geoffrey Rippon, Ted Heath, Harold MacMillan, douglas hurd, Geoffrey Howe and subsequent to the catastrophic ECA 72 and the referendum to endorse The Treaty of Rome we have had rascals like Ken Clark, Tony Blair, Neil Kinnock, Graham Watson, Francis Maude, Denis McShane and many more energetically betraying these United Kingdoms for their own gain as they advocate National suicide and direct rule by the centralised and largely undemocratic EU.
Yet we note that whether deliberately set up to discredit the EUrosceptic movement as many believe or by accident of utter incompetence which I find more plausible, the ONLY credible political group that claims to advocate withdrawal seem s to be UKIP.
Sadly however their conviction to Leave-The-EU seems to be more words than reality as their so called leader is also a leader of The EFD Pan EU Political Group which is largely pro membership of the EU and much like The Tories claims to wish to see revision.
The EFD is a Group espousing continued membership of The EU and renegotiation in some areas – Astonishingly UKIP’s leader and its MEPs are members of this group with the honourable exception of Nikki Sinclaire who was forced out of UKIP largely for being homosexual but for the quoted reason that she refused to sit with The EFD in The EU and comply with Nigel Farage’s political corruption of UKIP.
Fortunately for Mike Nattrass & Trevor Colman neither are homosexual so although they too resigned from Farage’s group in The EU they have been allowed to remain in Farage’s Party!

The European Parliament has been scandalised by an incident in which ‘Tommy Robinson’ of the English Defence League (EDL) has personally issued a threatening letter to a British MEP inside the parliament.
Robinson and other neo-nazis had accessed the Parliament, on Monday 9th July, to attend a conference organised by the Belgian far-right Vlaams Belang, with whom various members of UKIP leadership claque are associated.
Robinson acted under the guise of the ‘International Civil Liberties Alliance’, these extremists had gathered to discuss their mutual fear of Islam.
The organiser, Phillip Claeys, is a board member, along with UKIP’s Godfrey Bloom, of the Pan-European party, the EAF.
One of the speakers at the conference was Magdi Allam, an Italian MEP who is as obsessed with Islam as Gerard Batten a UKIP MEP would seem to be. Allam is a member of Nigel Farage’s EFD group in the European Parliament as is the odious extremist Gerard Batten who is closely associated with various extremist groups and known criminals see CLICK HERE.
As if it could not get any worse, several of the ‘delegates’ have been described by the press as ‘mentors’ of the Norwegian gunman Anders Breivik.
The EAF is one of two pan-European parties to be denied further EU funding on the grounds of far-right extremist agendas.
This latest incident clearly shows the cross-over between UKIP and the far-right.
At his recent tribunal in London, UKIP MEP Gerard Batten was represented by a barrister, Paul Diamond, who I gather has been censured in Court by a presiding Judge for his unprofessional behaviour and appears to have a history of defending in court people accused of ‘anti-Islamic’ behaviour.
Paul Diamond also represented Batten at the trial of Julian Assange (though what that has to do with Gerard Batten‘s duty as an elected MEP elected to campaign to Leave-The-EU is questionable and one would trust his fees were paid from Batten‘s personal pocket and not from the public purse via Batten‘s expenses!).
Paul Diamond also defended Mrs Batten when she appeared in court charged non-payment of her TV licence.
Through Sam Soloman, Diamond has links to the EDL.
Soloman was an ‘expert witness’ at Batten‘s recent Court hearings.
The UKIP website openly admits the links between Batten and Soloman though it would seem not to note Batten’s association with Gregory Lauder-Frost who was sentenced to two years in prison for defrauding his employers of around £100K,  nor various extremist groups, nor of Batten‘s efforts to gag the press to hide the fact that he was in Court, which was a matter of public record and openly confirmed by the Court itself!
So much for Gerard Batten‘s posturings about free speech and the rights of Julian Assange, who is neither British nor a constituent of Gerard Batten‘s and Batten‘s seeming incitment to racial hatred of those precticing Islam, based on his own personal superstitions and religious bigotry. Gerard Batten was perfectly willing to abuse his elected office to defame and to restrict the freedom to publish facts and the truth when it suited his dishonest ends!
Never in recent history has there been such antipathy for the malign influence of The EU in Britain nor abhorrence at the damage done to Britain, democracy, freedom and the future resultant from our membership of The EU and sadly the only political grouping that should be representing those who wish to Leave-The-EU are unfit for purpose and have clearly befouled the image of EUroScepticism with their own squalid behaviour and self interest.
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UKIP’s Nigel Farage has an article in The Sun..

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UKIP has a good article in The Sun today over the by-line of Nigel Farage.
It is such a pity that with some sound comment coming from UKIP and being published, at last – it is so damaged as a result of UKIP association with racism, anti judaism, anti homosexuality, extremism, bullying and the dishonest & corrupt use of a small army of low lifes and sock puppets willing to lie and defame from their cowardly stance.

Without responsible behaviour UKIP does more harm than good to the wish of the majority of the British peoples to Leave-The-EU – without some gravitas and a clear exit & survival strategy UKIP can talk and publish all it likes but it will continue to bump along the bottom of British politics with an average vote when it can find a candidate of around 5-7% which is inadequate to be of any real significance in the struggle for Independence.

The constant reports of defamatory lies, corruption, back stabbing & lack of vision & political nouse guarantees UKIP’s long term irrelevance.

That said here is their latest little flurry of activity:
The Sun

We won’t get fooled again, PM

By NIGEL FARAGE
UK Independence Party leader

Nigel Farage

Poll call … Nigel Farage
Published: 16 minutes ago

THE public is running out of patience with David Cameron over his dawdling on Europe – and UK Independence Party chief Nigel Farage is backing The Sun’s call for a referendum.

A Sun on Sunday survey found 67 per cent want a vote on whether the UK stays in the European Union.
Here, UKIP leader Mr Farage explains why that referendum cannot come soon enough.

BACK in 1971, a couple of years before we joined the Common Market (as the EU was called then), The Who wrote that great song Won’t Get Fooled Again.

But in the past 40 years we’ve been fooled time and time again.

We were told our membership of Europe was about trade and opening up markets to British goods.

Instead we got political interference, endless rules and regulations, our fish stocks plundered, and foreign criminals claiming the “right to a family life” in Britain.
Sound like a free trade agreement to you? No, me neither.

EU flag and handcuffs

Locked in … UK vote on EU is vital, says Nigel Farage

Now David Cameron is trying to do it again. His “cast-iron guarantee” on an EU referendum, made in the pages of The Sun, soon rusted. His next con trick will be telling you he needs a chance to renegotiate with Europe and make a deal. 

This newspaper is right to look at the possibility of recalibrating our relationship with Brussels but I am sceptical as to whether we would ever get the best deal for Britain.
Any agreement needs to get the go-ahead from all the other countries in the EU.

It would be like trying to have an amicable divorce with 26 ex-partners who all blame you for their problems — partners who cost you £50million a day, by the way.

They are not going to send us home with a box of Belgian chocolates and a bottle of French red.

At the very best, Mr Cameron will arrive back from Brussels, cheeks flushed with victory, telling us we’re just in the “single market” now and that means trade — nothing more, nothing less.

The single market cripples British businesses.

The single market is responsible for all those health and safety regulations and environmental directives that this newspaper has campaigned against for years.

More than that, if we remain a part of it, we still won’t be able to strike trade deals with the rest of the world. While China, Brazil, India and the rest of the Commonwealth flourish, we will be handcuffed to the EU, with their sky-high unemployment rates, doomed single currency and economies set to stagnate for the next ten to 20 years.

Every year, the EU sells us £52billion more in goods than we buy from them.

 

We have more of a taste for German cars than they do for Scotch whisky, and it is nonsense to suggest they‘d refuse to sell us another Merc if we left the EU.

Renegotiation is an option but not a solution.

EU have to fight now, PM

EU and cry … our report 
 

The British people deserve a true choice in a straight in/out referendum. Mr Cameron does not want you to have that poll, in case you don’t give him the answer he wants — which is to stay in the EU. But only after a NO vote could we get that free-trade deal. You know, the one we thought we’d originally signed up to.

Sixty-two per cent of Sun readers do not trust the PM. This gives me hope.

 

Do me a favour, David, and have a listen to that song by The Who, on iTunes, and don’t get fooled again.

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Farage gets some political coverage of value!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/07/2012

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The time will never be right for David Cameron to hold a referendum on the EU

The Prime Minister should explain why Britain can’t vote on continued membership of the failing European Union

Nigel Farage: 'Once again, I challenge the Prime Minister to have an open debate with me on why he believes we must stay part of this failing, corrupt EU. The future of our nation is at stake. Mr Cameron, you have my phone number'

Nigel Farage: ‘I challenge the Prime Minister to have an open debate with me on why he believes we must stay part of this failing, corrupt EU. The future of our nation is at stake. Mr Cameron, you have my phone number’ Photo: Eddie Mulholland

By Nigel Farage

8:10PM BST 05 Jul 2012

I have had enough of being told that we will have an EU referendum “when the time is right”. The time has come for a real debate: I challenge the Prime Minister to debate with me why he will not give us a say on our relationship with the European Union.

Anyone following David Cameron’s recent twists and turns on the EU could be forgiven for feeling dizzy. At one time, there was a “cast-iron guarantee” of a referendum. Then, last year, he three-line-whipped Conservative MPs to oppose the idea of holding one. Events last week did nothing to add clarity. On Friday in Brussels, with Angela Merkel looming over him, we were told that there would be no referendum. But 48 hours later, in an article in The Sunday Telegraph, he suggested that a referendum might be a possibility, though not just yet.

There is one note of total consistency. On at least half a dozen occasions, the Prime Minister has been clear that there will not be – must not be – a choice of whether we stay in or leave the EU.

The explanation is that it is in our interests to remain a member, so it does not matter what voters think. It’s a case of “I, David Cameron, have made up my mind.” This assertion, shared by almost the entire political class, must be questioned in an open debate. Those of us who have dared to challenge the consensus have been mocked and derided, but opinion polls now show that the British people do not want to be part of a political union.

The Prime Minister overstates the benefits of EU membership. I believe we would be better off out. My parents’ generation voted to remain a part of a Common Market which they believed to be a free-trade agreement that would not impinge on our rights of self-government. We were conned in 1975 and we must not allow that to be repeated today.

Mr Cameron claims that 3.5 million British jobs depend on us remaining part of the European Union. This comment always goes undisputed. It is based on the number of jobs dependent on exports to the EU and assumes that leaving the union would mean no further business between us and the EU – an incredibly weak, illogical argument. In 2010, the EU sold us £50 billion worth of goods more than we sold them. In short, they need us more than we need them. There is no chance of Mercedes, for example, refusing to sell us cars if we amicably divorce ourselves from political union.

The EU is a Seventies solution to a Fifties problem. The world has moved on since the “Common Market”, with World Trade Organisation agreements guaranteeing trading terms. Countries like Norway, Switzerland and even Mexico have free trade deals with the EU. Trade will continue as it does now with consumers making their choices in the marketplace. We are the world’s fifth-largest trading nation and yet, incredibly, we are banned from negotiating our own trade deals around the world. Ukip believes the Commonwealth is a good place to start, with its shared ties, common law, common language and a growth rate that outstrips our European neighbours.

But the benefits of leaving do not stop there. One of the most contentious issues in UK politics is immigration. With new arrivals running at 600,000 a year, the public demands that something must be done. But there is a problem. EU membership means that we have an open-door policy for our poorer European neighbours and a benefits system that encourages people to come here.

I was asked last week what I thought about new figures showing that Britain was the favoured destination for asylum seekers. I replied that 14,000 asylum seekers make up a small percentage of the total number of immigrants. Only by leaving the EU can we control our borders and apply a sensible and fair work permit scheme. My party is often accused of being anti-immigration. We are not. Work permits would allow talented, qualified people from all over the world a chance to contribute to the future of this country. Australia does it and so should we.

The other thing I am often asked about is human rights. Whether the issue is votes for prisoners or the failure to deport criminals on the spurious grounds of a “right to a family life”, our Government and courts are impotent. Highly paid, politicised lawyers will tell you that the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg is separate to the EU. That is no longer true. EU membership demands acceptance of all ECHR judgments and the EU intends to become a signatory in its own right, as part of the Lisbon Treaty. While we remain part of the EU, the chances of us wrestling back British judicial powers are slim.

I am pessimistic, however, that any of these serious issues will be addressed. My prediction is that Mr Cameron will be given one small, paltry concession from the EU over workers’ rights and will then present this as a victory of renegotiation. A referendum promise in the next Tory election manifesto on any “new package” would leave us exactly where we are now, still governed by Brussels, still unable to make our own laws and still paying £50 million a day for the “privilege” of belonging to this undemocratic club.

Once again, I challenge the Prime Minister to have an open debate with me on why he believes we must stay part of this failing, corrupt EU. The future of our nation is at stake. Mr Cameron, you have my phone number.

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The article is somewhat sabotaged, whether deliberately or not is hard to tell when at one moment members are told Steve Crowther has quit as an executive of UKIP having accepted the blame for the total debacle that was UKIP’s Local Election campaign and the risible results last May when out of 4,796 seats were up for election and UKIP were such a spectacular failure after 20 years only winning 9!
Yet consider this ‘e’Mail:
Steve Crowther
A Farage makeweight Placeman!

Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:11:12 +0100

Subject: Comment on Nigel’s article
From: Steve Crowther <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>
To: UKIP ROs 2011 <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>,
  UKIP Regional Chairmen 2011 <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>,
  UKIP NEC 2012 <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>,
  UKIP MEPs 2011 <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>
Thread-Topic: Comment on Nigel’s article

Dear All

PLEASE ADD A COMMENT BELOW NIGEL’S ARTICLE IN THE D TEL TODAY: THE MORE THEY GET, THE MORE THEY ARE LIKELY TO ASK FOR MORE ARTICLES FROM HIM.

Farage challenges Cameron to a debate on Europe

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/9378567/The-time-will-never-be-right-for-David-Cameron-to-hold-a-referendum-on-the-EU.html

Regards, Steve

Stephen Crowther, Chairman, UK Independence Party
Eastacombe House, Heanton, Barnstaple, N. Devon EX31 4DG
Phone 01271 813844 Mobile 07775 787579

Such rank amateurism is staggering and surely can not be for real!
Even for UKIP this is just naff – don’t forget the letter writting campaign and pressure brought on the media by Edward Heath in his betrayal of Britain campaign to surrender to vassal status in The EU (EEC at the time) at least he ensured that did not become common knowledge for many years out of simple professionalism!
Yes of course it was good to see an article of this length on this subject on The Telegraph web site earlier this morning but to see it undermined by UKIP leadership themselves within just a matter of hours speaks volumes of UKIP’s complete ineptitude, incompetence and clear lack of fitness for the task of leading Britain to Leave-The-EU – UKIP is unfit for purpose in its present form with its present incompetent leadership and extremist associates!
To be fair it covers various points but like many of my own articles uses too many words!It is unfortunate that Nigel Farage lacks the leadership qualities to attract and retain the staff of sufficient callier to work for him as researchers and speech writers and thus much of what he writes and says is off the cuff and just doesn’t hit the spot.
That Farage is leader of a pro EU membership reformist Pan EU group of the extreme righ wing, with criminal associates with convictions for child abuse, fraud, theft, assault, racism, anti Judaism, anti Islamism, anti homosexual and that his own party fails to follow his lead in many instances deeply undermines what little credibility he can still muster having fallen out with even his own placements amongst his MEPs and on his NEC.
Yes of course this is much better than his normal material, as all too often that is just reportage by others of the most noticeable aspects of Farage and his party, their louche and crass behaviour, their idiotic posturing, their complete lack of gravitas or political nouse or failing all else Farage’s testicles – It is almost unheard of to find a serious article espousing the principles of Leave-The-EU emanating from Farage or UKIP but then again in 20 years they have failed to debate, design and demand an exit and survival strategy for when we do Leave-The-EU, as we surely will if for no other reason than it will continue to fail and eventually collapse most probably dragging Britain into the vile morass it is working towards!
The article in todays Telegraph, as ever, fails to reasure the timerous or show WHY Britain will be Better-Off-Out and it is clear tyhere is no individual of stature, gravitas and competence to lead the Leave-The-EU side of the referendum, currently in the public eye.
There is also no visible way shown as to how the ‘Political Elte’ and the others who betray these United Kingdoms for their own gain can be prevented from cheating to ensure they can claim a victory and leave Britain in bonded status as vassals of the malign self serving self enriching mechanism of The EU as a supra national state bereft of democracy of any meaningful standards deserving of the name4 or even the fundamental human right of ‘self determination’ as enshrined in The UN Charter!
The article published in Farage’s name fails to show WHY we will be Better-Off-Out nor the exit and survival strategy to Leave-The-EU. Due to this sadly it merely comes across as a showman seeking attention and yet again lacks gravitas or plausibility.
That is not to gainsay it is better than having not been published – Let us hope a better calliber of script writer can be found to write his next article for him.
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Seems UKIP can find NO ONE of Gravitas!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 05/07/2012

Seems UKIP can find NO ONE of Gravitas!
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Seems UKIP can find NO ONE of Gravitas!
Having to fall back on the discredited Spanish MEP Marta Andreasen who we all know obtained her seat by dishonest means!!

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the content of this video clip is very sound but it is such a shame that UKIP has no one of credible gravitas to deliver the facts
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 There can be few who are unaware that Marta Andreasen, with her invented credentials and fantasy claims of being a whistle blower, was parachuted in by a series of fiddles by Nigel Farage to be a UKIP MEP – Unfortunately damaging any trust UKIP supporters may have had in Farage’s integrity and belief in democracy and British values!
That UKIP could not attract a British candidate of any calliber and resorted to rigging the selection to take advantage of EU rules permitting one to open any drain in EUrope to select those seeking to climb on the gravy train speaks volumes of UKIP and its lack of leadership skills or candidates of probity and integrity.
That all the other approaches to climb on the gravy train by Andreasen had met with rejection it seems UKIP was her last resort or would she have teamed up with The BNP to get a place as consorting with extremists and distorting facts would seem to be her stock in trade!
Do look up Marta Andreassen’s profile on the >UKIP Its ASSOCIATES & DETAILS< Page below the header of this web site or just CLICK HERE
That Marta Andreasen has it seems a history of biting the hand that feeds her apears apparent from her track record and it was not so long ago that she was calling for Farage’s resignation having realised his utter incompetence as a leader.
Now we see her on YOU Tubemaking sound points but due to her status as an untrustworthy carpet bagger they are of little note and I see that after 2 days this particular clip delivered to a near empty EU pretend parliament it has only attracted 700+ viewings! Considering the cost of this woman, both in cash and credibility terms, it is all rather a farce!
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Nigel Farage Strange Bedfellows and implications for UKIP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 29/06/2012

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EFD Leader Nigel Farage MEP’s Strange Bedfellows and the damaging implications and outcome for Farage’s Party – UKIP!!

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before republishing a posting by Junius, which I believe should be widely circulated as a matter which the public at large should be aware of I would like to point out a fe4w facts of my own 😉

Indeed as Junius states: ‘Strange bedfellows’ and as a Party Leader representing others it is unwise to let ones own morality dominate, for I understand Nigel Farage is politically willing to consort with anyone who will pay him, as with The EFD members of whom he is a leader comprising racists, bigots, anti homosexuals, xenophobes, Holocaust deniers, anti Jewish and all manner of sordid low lifes.

It is also abundantly clear that Farage’s immaturity and personal insecurity is very much a driving force in his leadership of UKIP and for that matter his sexual inadequacy that leads to his sexual incontinence and dependence of drink, as widely publicised!

It is widely published Farage is indeed a good performing monkey and so attested by a prostitute with whom he consorted, who used her body to gain and subsequently sell her story to The News of The World.

As to Prof. Anthony Coughlan I have always found him to be erudite, informed, urbane, charming, and excellent company, with something of a golden tongue in composing his discussion, when I have dined with him.

I also found him an incredibly well informed opponent of EU membership and he was immensly helpful to me in our attempts to oppose The EU’s required devolution of Wales.

That I have co-operated with and received assistance from a Professor at an Irish University gives me little concern, and to have risen within Eire it is clear he would have had some sympathy with the IRA position.

I am happy to be quoted as having received assistance in my opposition to EU membership from one of, if not the leading EUroSceptics in Eire.

That he was associated with the IRA comes as no surprise, but as I have made clear I violently (and I use the term specifically) oppose organised terrorism that targets the innocent in the cowardly manner espoused by The IRA, and for that matter certain other factions in Ireland, both North and South.

Assuming the information regarding Prof. Coughlan’s IRA leanings is true, and he and others took great risks to liberate their homeland from association with Westminster, it is astonishing they have permitted their homeland to fall under the thrall of as malign and centralised a scam as The EU, which has no interest in Ireland beyond as a lure to hook Britain, ever more damagingly.

The rest of the seedy associates of Farage give greater concern than that so prominent a EUroSceptic as Anthony C. was at the same table.

Imagine for a moment just how badly it reflects on UKIP to have some of Farage’s other garbage in tow – the likes of the liar and fraud Marta Andreasen, Gerard Batten with his bigoted religious stances and un-British obsessions, the serial drunk Godfrey Bloom with his odious personal life and standards, in Farage’s party there is not a single MEP of any merit, integrity or ethics. No not ONE!

Consider the various rejects Farage has placed in his Press Office from Croucher, Page, Fuller, Towler, Kelly and similar trash – Just what likelihood is there that UKIP under its present leadership will EVER make any meaningful progress in British domestic politics represented by the likes of these!

Just look at the garbage being dredged up as candidates for elections little wonder only 9 out of 4,987 seats were won by UKIP! In the light of those elected perhaps UKIP would have been better off with ZERO albeit considered a gain to have the likes of Kevin Mahoney and his ilk as representation amongst the claque that pays homage to The Farage Party!

Now there is the prospect of serial rejects like Hamilton, Helmer, Swann, Woolfe, McGough, Crowther (temporarily carrying the can for the risible results Farage’s tactics gained in London & the Local Elections in May!), and a host of others being the new golden wonders for Farage’s party, easily put in place as Farage has concentrated all powers of selection in his own control and as is well documented has declared UKIP NEC will do what he tells them!.

As I have often said ‘On a good day there is no doubt Farage is a good performing monkey, but he sure to hell is no organ grinder and can not even be trusted to collect the money from the audience’!

I look forward to the continued support of Prof. Anthony Coughlan and his intellectual input in Britain’s struggle for liberty, as with his superlative expose of The Lisbon Treaty (aka. EU Constitution).

However I represent my own views and values and my own revulsion of both The EU and The IRA, unlike Farage who surrendered his independence as soon as he drew his income from the public purse as a representative of others.

Yet again I am unimpressed by Farage’s choice of bedfellows – though to be fair I have NEVER respected any of his ‘bedfellows’, just like the majority of the electorate – hence constant catastrophic domestic election results are the mark of his party.
A few soundbites and performance antics on obscure political programs watched by few do not a leader make!
Minded of those points and limitations do read the opinions and details offered by that on The Junius blog:

Thursday, 28 June 2012

UKIP: Strange bedfellows!

The UKIP website contains some reference to the recent Irish referendum on the Fiscal Treaty. Paul Nuttall makes some comments. The website of the far-right EFD group in the European Parliament, to which UKIP belongs, and of which Nigel Farage is co-president, does likewise.

 
But UKIP’s involvement in that referendum campaign runs deeper. Much deeper.
 
What Nigel Farage does not want you to know is that he has used this campaign to forge links with Irish Republicans.
 
Our photograph, which does not appear on UKIP’s website for obvious reasons, shows Farage with some rather obnoxious characters.
 
Here we have Anthony Coughlan. He is certainly a vocal, and highly articulate, eurosceptic. But let us look deeper. Coughlan was a key figure in the Provisional IRA front group, the Connolly Association. He was also involved with the Wolfe Tone Society, which campaigned for the ‘rights’ of IRA prisoners. Those are the very people that murdered British soldiers, and innocent women and children in pursuit of their Marxist aims. Wolfe Tone himself was a convicted traitor, who died of illness before the just sentence of execution could be carried out. He once stated that his hatred of England had always been “rather an instinct than a principle”.
 
We also note the presence in this picture of Hermann Kelly, UKIP/EFD press officer, who once wrote of Coughlan that he is “a good friend of mine”.
 
Some interesting stuff here:
 
 
 
No wonder that Farage has remained silent on the matter of HM meeting the verminous murderer Martin McGuiness, he has himself been breaking bread with the same people. Look at the picture, and see how Farage is leaning forward to get his face in front of the camera. It is all about him, as far as he is concerned.
 
Farage, whilst he has never served himself, and whilst his father left the TA under a cloud of alcoholism, and tainted by his League of Empire Loyalist/National Front connections, likes to be associated with the troops. We wonder how his ‘friends’ in the mob will react to his closeness to the IRA!
 
Also present in the picture is Morten Messerchmidt (or Harry Heinkel, as Farage calls him behind his back). Messerschmidt personifies the EFD group. With his conviction for incitement to racial hatred, and the fact that he was forced to resign his government job after being seen “Heiling Hitler” in a Copenhagen bar, he really sums up this vile little group of violent extremists.
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As an interesting aside you may well note that the original political commentator ‘Junius’ of 1769 >1772 who commenced his postings but mysteriously stopped having never had his, her or their identity exposed – no doubt such a day will come for the current commentator on UKIP’s vagiaries, corruption and idiocies, who posts from within The EU on a well informed basis and for whom there have been so many authors both speculated and attributed by the ill informed 😉

That the current Junius has continued to post for so much longer and with both greater insight and information and also frequency would seem to occupy a great deal of both time and effort on the part of EUkip Leadership and its low life claque, many of whom too ashamed of the dishonesty of their lies, defamatory claims and general behaviour to put their name to their comments!

The list of those attributed to be Junius must be most flattering to the actual authors but all too clearly UKIP leadership have as little knowledge of who are the authors as they have ‘Exit and Survival Plans’ for these United Kingdoms relative to the odious, undemocratic and obscenely costly EU sca,!
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