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UKIP, CIB, TFA etc. are so befouled by association

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 30/07/2012

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UKIP, CIB, TFA etc. are so befouled by association with liars, cheats & low lifes like of Mick McGough!
UKIP is demeaned by such people & by association with The EFD & failure to root out the corrupt in its own leadership clique and its claque of corrupt self seekers!

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with at least 25% of the topics & conversation on one of the UKIP controlled Forums being desperate attempts to defame both Junius & this blog for daring to be patriotic, principled supporters of the ideals of the bulk of those, who like us, who support UKIP’s aim to Leave-The-EU which has quite clearly been subsumed by greed, corruption and self interest of its embarrassment in the leadership clique and its claque of self serving wannabes hovering around the honey pot seeking crumbs from the tables on the EU gravy train.
We now have one of the fools in this claque too ashamed to put his name to his naive comment:
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Mick, do you realise how few people read or even know of Junius/GLW?
In fact you probably help their readership by keeping threads like this going.
Just ignore them.
If you think they are writing lies, then who cares.
How very true – but how staggeringly silly in its political naivity – politicians seek numbers as shown by the crass who gather around The Farage Party, which offers no meaningful hope having been a spectacular failure with less than 30 people elected to office out of the 19,500 or so seats available by election in British politics and it has taken 20 years to achieve that!
What the foolish little chap hasn’t understood is that it couldn’t matter less how many of the several 100,000 people who read our blogs actually do know of us, with Junius running at approaching 1/4 Million hits a year and my blogs well into 100s of 1,000s, it is a matter of the quality of those opinion formers who read them.
It is also worth noting how many sites mirror our blogs and howmany on post them or quote them. On one of the UKIP controlled Forums our blogs and ourselves feature in at least 1/3rd of all UKIP postings!
But yet again – who cares how many read our blogs or Twitters it is a matter of calliber and relevance and that would seem to be a good percentage of the total.
As with Twitter where the irrelevancy of followers is matched by the general stupidity of most tweets – hence I TRY to keep those I follow to under 50 so that I can read their posts (unlike the idiotic who obviously read very little following 1,000s) similarly as my Tweets are published on the side bar of my blogs and web sites they are read by many more than those willing to risk the attacks of UKIP leadership claque and the nutters from the Hollie Greig hoax or the McCann publicity machine who do not want to be on the list but clearly read the entries.
Take for instance someone like stephen Fry – who cares what he Tweets? or who is interested in what Nigel Farage’s staff Tweet for him and obviously his Twitter account is dishonest as who on earth has the time to read all those incoming Tweets he merely lets people be on his list to flatter them for political gain. One wonders what percentage of his followers either read his staff’s output or are even in Britain!
Better to be read by one individual of influence and consequence than 10,000 fools!
Ill informed as he is this cowardly poster sheltering in anonymity has not twigged the value of a searchable archive of facts and related views. Nor it seems has he any awareness of the number of mainstream media stories that have been in the media as a result of these two blogs.
No doubt the foolish little fellow is unaware that it was as a direct result of my postings and relentless exposure of corruption that Tom Wise UKIP MEP was eventually put in prison and consider the number of facts regarding corruption that first surfaced in the public domain on these two blogs.
It is our clearly avowed aim to expose the corruption, lies, self enrichment, self interest and utter incompetence of UKIP leadership and its claque of corrupt fools that is at the core of our postings – the aim is to CLEAN-UP UKIP to hopefully make it electable to lead & champion the cause of Leave-The-EU, which it has clearly failed to do.
UKIP had some great (if slow in coming) achievements in the early days reaching its zenith with Roger Knapman at the helm in 2004 – it had effectively, through use of such campaigning as was advocated by Dick Morris – And yes of course what he said was obvious and as with any simple principles nothing he said was new or even his own ideas BUT he put it together for UKIP members in a form they were able to take on board.
WHAT has UKIP achieved since 2004? It had 12 MEPs and all that potential and went on to become a total embarrassment currently up to its neck in half baked policies and pretence to be a political party (we need another political party like a hole in the head) when what we need is leadership to Leave-The-EU.
All that UKIP has achieved since 2004 is a series of thefts by its MEPs and their staff and the rise to control of half wits and political idiots like Mick McGough, Malcolm Pearson, Stuart Agnew, Derek Clark, Gerard Batten, Stuart Parr, Steve Crowther and the list goes on!
Results at the polls in British politics speak volumes with UKIP bumping along averaging out at between 3 & 6% of the actual votes at the ballot box after 20 years!
For trying to CLEAN-UP the party we support to make it electable it is little wonder the clique does not wish to be exposed and their claque are in overdrive with lies, defamatory comments and serial desperation to silence the steady flow of information from Junius and my blogs.
Predictably the response of the proven liar who has stooped to criminality to silence the truth Mick McGough was not long in coming to the quote of the anonymous half wit which I posted above!
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I just want it clearly stated they are liers however small the readership

It would be funny if it were not so sad that this liar McGough has licence as an NEC member in UKIP and part of the hangers on with CIB & bean counter at TFA to keep dragging thes organisations into the gutters he inhabits.
Grovelling when Brahms & Liszt?
For details and cross referenced fact regarding the odious little man CLICK HERE a search of this blog (Search Bar: Top of Right side column or CLICK HERE)
OK it is irrefutably proven that this low life pest Mick McGough is a liar, a cheat and willing to demean himself and his associates with his comments and behaviour and to think he has conned his way onto UKIP’s NEC and uis seemingly respected by the illinformed and less intelligent UKIP members who are clearly unaware of the damage he does.
Lets face it this odious little man is exposed and banged to rights with substantive, corroborated, cross referenced facts as a liar, a cheat, corrupt, dishonest and happy to act criminally to gain his self interested ambitions.
This is not a dredge through half informed ancient history and missquotes, this is not smears and innuendo, this is not dishonest implications, nor idiotic fantasies presented as fact but actual fact backed by hard evidence – yet in the name of UKIP this odious excrecence of a man comes out with this comment:
‘I just want it clearly stated they are liers however small the readership’
OK McGough please identify a single solitary lie of any deliberate nature or material consequence that has appeared on either my blog or that of Junius – minded of the facts CLICK HERE
Mick McGough you are a contemptible serial liar and/or a natural low life as you have shown and has been proven – sadly you are not the only one in UKIP’s claque or its leadership clique with the likes of Derek Clark, David Bannerman, Marta Andreasen, Gawain Towler, Godfrey Bloom, Douglas Denny, Lisa Duffy, Gerard Batten, Peter Reeve, Mark Croucher, Tom Wise and so many more.
Little wonder UKIP in its present state has shown itself to be no part of the solution with consistently low support at the ballot box for British politics and is in fact a very major part of the problem related to our membership of The EU and public desire to Leave-The-EU.
UKIP has lost all credibility in British politics as the ballot box shows. Yet it is noted these low lifes are welcome with open arms by the extremists, racists, anti Jewish, anti Muslim, anti homosexual, advocates of membership of the EU with reform & improvement of control over vassal regions, advocates of violent xenophobia and the utter scum of EUropean politics – what an embarrassment for Britain that UKIP are in cahoots with such trash in The Pan EU Political EFD Group!
But McGough clearly has some pretty questionable friends
I note Paul Weston of the British Freedom Party seen by many as extremist & racist:  http://t.co/e55TLcSK read their material & judge for yourself: CLICK HERE
And then people wonder what I mean by CLEAN-UP UKIP to make it fit for decent informed individuals to vote for to lead or at least parade the values of Leave-The-EU.
Rather than listen to the low lifes of UKIP leadership clique and its odious claque why not take me up on my offer of many years standing – either phone me or arrange to meet me and check THE FACTS.
I am firmly on record as offering to be cross examined regarding the facts I publish on my blogs at any public meeting I can reasonably attend where I will be all too happy to contribute to my aims to work for the cause of Leave-The-EU and towards that aim to seek to Clean-Up UKIP and expose corruption, dishonesty and deceit in public office towards better Governance of Britain and the peoples of these United Kingdoms by the peoples of these United Kingdoms in Britain as a sovereign and independent nation.
The likes of proven liars and self serving low lifes like Mick McGough are clearly bringing UKIP, CIB, TFA etc. into disrepute and hugely assisting The EU by undermining the credibility of the EUroSceptic Movement.
UKIP leadership and the perception it is The Farage Party and the dictatorial controls held by Farage and his clique similarly give a clear air of corruption to add to the already obvious corruption of UKIP as it now is with the incredibly low calliber of its officers, staff and claque does absolutely nothing to help the EUroSceptic cause and it is an undeniable fact that UKIP is of great help to The EU in providing the semblance and pretence of democracy in that they can claim there is an opposition in the EU yet when that opposition jumps through every EU hoop to enrich its leadership and is seen at best as a bunch of inept clowns and at worst as a self serving clique of corrupt fools it does nothing for the aspirations of others to Leave-The-EU.
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A Roundup & A Bit More ;-)

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/07/2012

A Roundup & A Bit More 😉
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I note that the long past mainstream DJ Mike Read is being hugely promoted as some achievement as a convert for UKIP – Is it imagination or does UKIP only catch the spent shells rather than command the respect of the full round!

I remember Mike Read from the days of Radio Caroline where he broadcast but I presume he never moved on and remained in either children’s entertainment or as the oldest swinger in town with some obscure kids programme as I had not heard of him since unlike a number of the successes from those days like Tony Blackburn.

Just a quick check on Wiki & clearly I am wrong as he did not start as a broadcaster until much later & was on Radio Luxembourg so NOT with iconic names like DLT, Simon Dee, Tony Blackburn & the like on Caroline!
I was right in my assumtion of his obscurity as I was out of Britain in the ’70s and his manstream carreer seems brief as he left the BBC in 1991 but hung on in the business in local radio so perhaps I can be forgiven for not having heard of him.
However I did think the juxtaposition on the UKIP controlled forum which was a little unkind to this elderly DJ!
What he is expected to bring to UKIP in political competence, gravitas, vision or even cash they fail to mention!
I guess when one has no one of any probity or gravitas I guess that means you have to make the most of such as he.
To be fair UKIP do have a genuine economist on board but like most economists he tends not to say the right things at the right time letting his theories overide political expediency rather frequently in his attacks on UKIP & denounciation of its leadership from time to time!
I do note – as I Twittered previously – he has taken up on the idea that we launched on EUroRealist several years ago when Harry Randall kindly produced a costing of EU membership updating it every 1/4; as he assured me, not so very complex as it was based upon the Government Pink Book produced 1/4ly.
The concept was later taken up using public money, by Gerard Batten and I believe his brother was in some way involved with the printing – for Gerard Batten to claim his brother is retired, as he has recently, was of course bunkum unless he made so much out of his nepotistic relationship with Batten he decided to retire!
Anyway – to continue you will find Tim Congdon’s more recent developement of our idea very helpfull I’m sure as he does have his own economic think tank to back his theories and it will be interesting to compare his version of the cost of EU membership with William Hague’s planned assessment!
You will be pleased to note that Tim Congdon has generously made his information readily available and has also badged a version for UKIP’s benefit see CLICK HERE for the early drafts he has made available.
You may well find some of his papers at IMR Ltd of help in understanding the global economic problems and particularly those of The UK as a result of EU membership.
I believe that William Hague’s planned assessment will be all too prone to presenting the costs of membership of the EU from the corrupt self serving position of the political elite, who do so well out of it, at the expense of the British peoples who are paying £50Million a day or a sum equivalent to £750 per annum per citizen!
I note the efforts of Dr. Richard North, Niall Warry and others to draw up, via their ‘Harrogate Agenda’, a Chartist style 6 points or key resolutions to seek better Governance. Sadly a thankless task as it runs counter the ambitions of self serving groups like the political elites including UKIP, CIB and Better Off Out who all have their personal ambitions far before the needs of these United Kingdoms and our peoples.
That which does not threaten such ambitions would seem to fall foul of the egos of the many inadequates in their entorage!

I stress again my support for the stated original values, principles and aims of UKIP, still espoused by some of its members but clearly not just suffused but rejected by its leadership who know no vile act of false witness, dishonesty and bullying too low to stoop to to defend their personal ambitions – So very redollent of the political elite relative to The EU of which UKIP leadership have become a very real part now seemingly enemies of liberty seeking by defamation to suppress free speech, honest beliefs and even criticism be it constructive or not.

UKIP have clearly, in becoming the antithesis of Libertarian or even for that matter probity, intergrity and ethicality, it has become very much a part of the problem increasingly clearly with no part in the solution.
To listen to those rewarded from the public purse preaching and persecuting others whilst trousering huge sums of money relative to the incomes of many who contribute to their well being and then banking beyond the reach of British tax authorities as does Nigel Farage with his sophisticated trusts in The Isle of Man and his Belgian bank accounts perks exploited by many amongst the political elite particularly those exploiting their positions in The EU.
We then have their ambitious claque with the timmerity to lie and dissemble in their attempts to defame dedicated EUroRealists who dare to point out the corruption!
Mouth Wide Open – Eyes Shut
More Lies Due Any Second!!
Consider the constant childish name calling of buffoons like Mick McGough who do The EU’s work for them and seek to defame critics of the corruption of UKIP which so undermines The EUroSceptic cause – unlike his puppet masters, whose coat tails he hangs onto, people like myself, Niall Warry, Richard North, Junius and many more are motivated by our honest beliefs, honestly held so astonishing to one with his ‘morality’ who can not understand duty or belief and is insistence we all act as he would ‘for money’!
The comments and chatterings of such as Mick McGough and an army of cowards bullying on the internet to seek to intimidate to suppress the truth speaks volumes of the calliber of those who have risen to destroy UKIP as a principled and honourable organisation.
Consider this idiotic comment from Mick McGough and do remember this is the odious little man who colluded with Andrew Smith in the corruption of the accounts of UKIP and for which Andrew Smith as treasurer quit and ran from the post when challenged even having circulated eMails advocating and advising how UKIP senior members as to how to cheat The Electoral Commission. An eMail published in full by me some ages ago!
It was that eMail which was a strong part of The Electoral Commissions case against6 UKIP – which as many will remember UKIP lost hands down, only protecting themselves from even greater sentence by invoking and sheltering from British Justice by the device of EU protection!
Do remember it was after all Mick McGough who was so clearly exposed and displayed as a liar who had set out to cheat his colleagues and the electorate – set out in UKIP’s Returning Officer’s own report on corruption in UKIP’s own corrupt methods – that minded note his comment:
Allegedly ?
Being cautious are we Niall? So unlike your lying puppet master who posts without corroboration or due diligence.

Rather than smoke with fire I think you’ll find they’re the remarks of a foreign woman scorned;another example of what we’ve had to endure from unlimited uncontrolled immigration from the EU.

Strange isn’t it that you ,Junius and GLW support the likes of the benefit fraudster Mote and another under investigation .
What a perverse world you inhabit;thank God you are in the minority

Let us fisk this item by item as a matter of record:
Allegedly ?
A device which has no validity under law as shelter from dishonesty.
Being cautious are we Niall?
Clearly not as it would seem that since he has not seen the wealth of documentary provenance and may not have witnesses of Gertard Batten’s racist statements and behaviour he has warned that in his case he is speaking to allegations made.
So very redollent of the standard of integrity of Mick McGough that he tries to smear by distortion!
So unlike your lying puppet master who posts without corroboration or due diligence.
Mick McGough seems to be only too willing to oiverlook his own libellous comments as he is completely unaware of the dilligence taken, nor the corroboration accrued nor even the documentary support of the facts published – yet he is all too willing to lie to support his claims and invent material to make his case.
Those who know Niall Warry or anything of him will appreciate just what fools they make of themselves in the pretence that he acts as ANYONE’s puppet!
Niall Warry is no McGough and acts out of duty, patriotism and principle.

Rather than smoke with fire I think you’ll find they’re the remarks of a foreign woman scorned;another example of what we’ve had to endure from unlimited uncontrolled immigration from the EU.

Yet another very typical example of UKIP’s insidious racism and xenophobia – What evidence does McGough have that Jasna Badzak, a victim of the largely EU created war in The Balkans I understand is now a legitimate resident in The UK married and if not actually  an assylum seeker clearly justified in her presence on those grounds.

Even the undeniably racist Gerard Batten with his vile rants about Islam and foreigners willingly employed this particular ‘foreigner’ Mick McGough defames as an ‘alien’ in one post and a perfidious and dishonest ‘foreigner’ in another. Might this be a case of an Irishman by origin seeking inclusivity one wonders just as the trustees in the death camps of The EU of Germany were as Jews willing to curry favour by abusing other Jews for their Nazi masters!

Strange isn’t it that you ,Junius and GLW support the likes of the benefit fraudster Mote

Perhaps Mick McGough – rather than seek to defame could identify where those at Junius, Niall Warry or I have EVER endorsed criminality – Whether in respect of Ashley Mote or any other, yet I well remember the vile attacks and criminality of those in UKIP which I endured, by way of both harrassment, cyber bullying and defamatory lies and distortion, as they set aout to protect Tom Wise who I denounced as a criminal yet UKIP took no action of any consequence save in seeking to defame me!

You may recall the list of dishonest and corrupt UKIP leadership and those in its claque who set out to cover-up the criminality of Tom Wise and who lied and distorted, bore false witness and sought to defame me for having the timerity to denounce his corruption that led to his prison sentence for two years:

and another under investigation .
I doubt somehow that Mick McGough is alluding to Stuart Agnew or David Bannerman who are under investigation by OLAF, nor of Gerard Batten who is I umnderstand under investigation, nor even Derek Clark who was found guilty of theft from the public purse and ordered top repay a considerable amount of money and is I believe still subject of investigation by The British Police having had the OLAF file passed to them – let us not forget when I denounced Dererk Clark for his fraud as boasted of in public and his dishonesty and corruption how UKIP claque in efforts to curry favour attacked me.
Even now Derek Clark lies to the regional committee and has regularly lied about me and made efforts to defame me – Yet again the facts have proved me right and Derek Clark has been exposed as a liar and a cheat, a low life beneath contempt who abuses his office for gain – let us not forget that it was I who published the details when he carried outNigel Farage’s bidding to obtain new members in his grubby little EU Group which would earn him more money and control of wehat was then the 400 budeget now renamed  to obfuscate yet still under Farage’s control, as with the budget for international travel which seem to be used, not for travel which he has denied UKIP MEPs but actually seems to use as bribes to buy extremist MEPs from other countries at UKIP expense!
Similarly I doubt Mick McGough is alluding to Graham Booth who was found guilty of fraudulent abuse of the public purse and ordered to repay the money or Jeffrey Titford or Nigel Farage who have similarly been found guilty of defrauding the public purse and ordered to repay monies.
Similarly I doubt he is referring to the fact that Nigel Farage was recently called in by the British Police and questioned regarding allegations of fraud against another that would seem to be in themselves dishonest and we gather the aim was to establish just how close to the corruption Nigel Farage’s position is and whether it was an act instigated on his instruction.
Nor I presume is Mick McGough alluding to the potential for follow up action in the High Courts against Nigel Farage, Godfrey Blook and UKIP which has been temporarily set aside by Nikki Sinclaire who received an unequivocal apology subsequent to the guilty verdict against Farage, Bloom and UKIP and there are those who believe that in an effort to avoid High Court action the ambitions of a gullible and stupid dupe John Ison was exploited to try to defame Nikki Sinclaire with falsified accounts which John Ison was paid to keep in order!
What a perverse world you inhabit;thank God you are in the minority
I fully understand why the likes of Mick McGough ‘thank their Gods’ that the likes of Junius, Niall Warry and myself are in a minority – it is a sad reflection that he perceives the honest who risk the wrath of the corrupt by exposing the truth are in a minority.
Again and again the odious claque of UKIP befoul the aims of the majority of their members by their desperate attempts to suppress the truth.
What party finds the obscene racist behaviour as covered on You Tube and in a double page spread in The News of The World not only acceptable but permitted Malcolm Lord Pearson to be their leader and never once denounced his behaviour.
Just what party of duty as an elected representative of the peoples of London are the vile attacks on Islam by Gerard Batten and his seeming efforts to incite racial hatred (seems to work noting Mick McGough’s veiled racism!).
What censure of UKIP’s present leader was ever made for his childish insecurity and drunken exploits with a prostitute that found UKIP with a double page spread in the same Sunday Paper.
The good folk of UKIP do not even have the courage to denounce the vile behaviour of the drunken clown Godfrey Bloom – no doubt to scared of the odious UKIP attack dogs in the harrassment claque who they know would round on them if they dared to denounce his childish and irresponsibility urinating in the corridors of Expensive Hotels he stays in as a rep[resentative of UKIP and OUR Country.
They do not even comment or censure when he is arrested copulating with a black prostitute on  the bonnet of a car in a public street in Brussels and subsequently pleading ‘diplomatic immunity’ to avoid charges or was that when he was arrested for absconding from a bordello in an effort to avoid paying for the affections and services he had bought!

Just as now it is noted that many in UKIP are harrassing me and dishonestly defaming me for having the timerity to publish material that is in the public domain already regarding Gerard Batten – material which would seem largely if not totally to be true.

May I remind readers that Gerard Batten has publicly lied about me, corrupted justice and colluded with Derek Clark & Douglas Denny to prevent justice in the case of the Kangeroo Cort held against Peter Baker.
Gerard Batten has further sought to intimidate and suppress the truth and wasted police time in abuse of his office very deliberately to dishonestly harrass me bearing false witness to seek to have the police act unlawfully on his behalf.
It is the very many proven instances of corruption on the part of Gerard Batten and his criminal associates and extemist chums that leads me to believe that in substance the material received from Jasna Badzak which has been published is in fact true.
Perhaps it is her intention that Gerard Batten acts against her for providing the material so that she can lay out the full documentary evidence and evidence she holds – frankluy I do NOT know and obviously I shall not publish further material I hold without it either being presented elsewhere in the public domain or should I receive further corroboration and substantiation.
As I have stated Gerard Batten is perfectly at liberty to request a right of reply or if he is able to present evidence that the facts provided are untrue I will obviously publish the full details and a detailed apology for having presumed that alt6hough I inclined to believe the evidence of Jasna Badzak I had not published until it was in the public domain and have only published that which is to date.
I stress again CLICK HERE clearly the aim is to publish the truth not sink to the level of falsehood, name calling and childish defamatory comments of UKIP so as to Clean-Up UKIP and try to make it electable to represent the cause of Leave-The-EU for decent honourable and informed individuals not just see it as a rather unpleasant clique of self serving low lifes kept in place by the ambitions of the claque of fools and charlattans mostly on the make an the take!
To be fair Mick McGough is not the only slime in the pack here are the comments of some coward passing themselves off as Arthur Fonzarelli to lie and dissemble:
I nearly choked on a latte when I read that Mr Warry. That’s because here you are, doing the dirty work of Mr Lance-Watkins and the Junius owners (all of whom are banned from here for refusing to substantiate allegations made) and I’m sure if push came to shove, they would drop you like a hot coal. Indeed, there are a number of people who have over the years had every last bit of use squeezed from them by Mr Lance-Watkins and then thrown aside as if they were yesterday’s newspaper. So yet again, you amuse me with your short-sightedness
Let us consider this self serving drivel:
I nearly choked on a latte when I read that Mr Warry.
Pretentious and rather silly – who cares?
That’s because here you are, doing the dirty work of Mr Lance-Watkins and the Junius owners
Perhaps it has not occurred to AF as a result of their motivation by money or the normality of doing the bidding of others that someone like Niall Warry carries out his own beliefs in his own right with honesty and integrity to try to clean-up UKIP as a long term supporter and even longer term EuroSceptic.
A EUroSceptic with varied success but a 100% track record of making such efforts as he can and at his own expense – unlike so many of his critics in UKIP!
(all of whom are banned from here for refusing to substantiate allegations made)
A LIE I was NOT banned for making false allegations I was banned for consistently repeating the truth and every single posting I ever made on the UKIP controlled forum in question is and was 100% verifiable and verified but one can hardly expect an apology from someone who lacks the integrity and ethics to put their name to their defamatory lies!
and I’m sure if push came to shove, they would drop you like a hot coal.
I can not speak for those at Junius though I have no reason to believe these claims to be one iota more accurate about Junius than they are lies with regard to me!
Indeed, there are a number of people who have over the years had every last bit of use squeezed from them by Mr Lance-Watkins and then thrown aside as if they were yesterday’s newspaper.
Another defamatory lie from the dishonest coward – NAME ONE!
So yet again, you amuse me with your short-sightedness
Sadly there is absolutely nothing about the damage done to The EUroSceptic movement by liars and cowards like this odious little creep, who unfortunately is representative of so many who debase and befoul UKIP, making it unfit for purpose as reflected by its abysmal track record at the ballot box of British Politics with less than 30 seats held through election out of some 19,500 available – clearly after nearly 20 years they can only be seen as an abject failure.
UKIP due to the likes of its leadership, staff, candidates and officers is not only unfit for purpose but contemptible in its racism, anti homosexuality, indifference to democratic principles, self seeking, self enriching, anti Judaism, fear of Islam and sordid associates be they British criminals like Gregory Lauder-Frost seen by most respomnsible individuals as an extremist or the gutter extremists of EU politics in their contemptible EFD Group which 1/3rd of UKIP’s own MEPs refuse to sit with despite the money it makes Nigel Farage!
To quote Nigel Farage:
The UK is no closer to a referendum

One has to concede he is probably right on this point but lets face it he and UKIP seem to have done almost everything possible to block the very successfull efforts of Nikki Sinclaire in this direction and when she and she alone led a campaign which UKIP refused to participate in she managed to gather a team and invest both her expenses and her own income in gaining well over 100,000 signatures and forcing Parliament at Westminster to have a full blown debate on the matter.

Yet we had the odious spectacle of Farage acting the charlatan and turning up to TRY to steal the praise for Nikki Sinclaire’s achievements.
Many will remember when UKIP allegedly organised a petition when it did seem that well over £1/4Million of tax payers money wound up in the pockets of David Lott, Nigel Farage and Mark Croucher as the so called organiser of a petition that never took place and can only have been so crassly and incompetently organised deliberately!
Indeed we are no closer to a referendum and it would noty be unreasonable to say – largely due to Nigel Farage’s Party – whether by incompetence, dishonesty or design I leave it to you to weigh the evidence!
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That UKIP has a liar and low life like McGough on its NEC as a spokesman & The CIB & The Freedom Association associate with such an odious fantasist speaks volumes of their current ability to represent EUroScepticism!

Obviously IF there is EVER an In/Out Referendum the likes of McGough will preclude any possibility such organisations will have of being taken seriously – Sadly he is not the only fool in UKIP leadership clique and its claque in fact they seem without one iota of gravitas or credibility!

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Nigel Farage MEP and Michael McGough (Photo credit: The Freedom Association)

Mick McGough is a proven liar and a cheat who was exposed as a liar and cheat by the report of UKIP’s returning officer having lied to deceive the electorate in selection as an MEP to fulfil his personal ambitions & no doubt for personal gain!

His desperate distortions and utterly irresponsible and repetitive misrepresentations are, one is forced to assume, deliberately damaging to the EUroSceptic movement  – for it is hard to conjecture any other reason he makes such a fool of himself with his lies and criminally obsessive behaviour under law.

You will note this odious excrecence’s foolish fantasies and dishonesties below in starting a thread on Anthony Butcher’s UKIP controlled public forum when he is, rather embarrassingly, on UKIP’s NEC!!
Here is his foolish thread and the responses so far – I have commented clearly prefixed G.L-W>> & ended <<
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    G.L-W>> An interesting speculation which he makes time and again without a shred of evidence in an attempt to dishonestly defame despite clear statements from myself and others as to EXACTLY why as a dedicated EUroRealist I have supported UKIP as founded, for many years and seek to expose the corruption and lies of the likes of Mick McGough and those like him who use it as a vehicle for their own dishonesties and those using it to fulfil personal ambitions and self enrichment!

     

    Please be assured that I have not, am not and never have been paid in any shape manner or form for my totslly consistent track record of opposition to Britain’s membership of The EU.<<

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    It amazes me that no one seems to know who ‘Junius’ is (?).
    I can’t think anyone pays GLW, as his writing style is so off-putting.

    G.L-W>> It is hardly surprising that those who post under the name of Junius retain their anonimity, as if their identities were known it is unlikely that they would be able to obtain much of the information of corruption, dishonesty, racism, bullying and abuse that are prevalent in UKIP’s heirarchy – not to mention the utter incompetence that makes them unfit for purpose as any kind of standard bearer for EUroScepticism.

    As to my writing style I can respect the opinion given and just as some may find the style ‘off putting’ the reade4rship figures of the material I have written over the years would indicate others may find it of interest – Each to his own!

    Just rather a pity this individual lacks the conviction of his comments to put his name to them – a cowards option which demeans the value of tyhe comments!<<

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    Splendid question Mr McGough.

    G.L-W>> some indication of the motivation and stupidity of this cowardly poster! <<

    If only we had an idea because I personally do not believe that they want to ‘clean up UKIP’ as they claim, rather they wish to destroy it.

    G.L-W>> Further proof that this poster is without doubt wrong with regard to myself and also I believe with regard to those who post at Junius – there is clear proof that I have consistently worked to try to ‘Clean-up’ UKIP from exposing the frauds of Tom Wise aided by Lindsay Jenkins and the attempts of Nigel Farage, Mike Nattrass, Roger Helmer, Bob Feel Martinis, Mick McGough, Anthony Butcher and others to protect this criminal who was eventually sentenced to 2 years in prison for his false accounting, fraud, embezelling and theft from the public purse in abuse of his elected office of trust!

     

    Perhaps this idiot presenting with the fake name would have the integrity to be identified or as I suspect are they merely protecting their position and that of others exploiting UKIP & EUroScepticism for personal gain.

     

    His comments are clearly fantasies without a shred of substantive provenance – no wonder they are too ashamed to put their name to their dishonesty.<<

    The latest claims against Mr Batten should indeed prove to be their undoing and I dearly hope Mr Batten will be consulting his lawyers in due course.

    G.L-W>> Gerard Batten has a track record proven and in the public domain of association with those reasonable individuals would consider to be racist, extremist and criminal. Further Gerard Batten has provably acted in a manner that is indubitably dishonest, corrupt and holding Justice in contempt.

    Gerard Batten has beyond any doubt acted in a manner likely to be considered an incitement to racial hatred based on his personal superstitions, fears and beliefs.

     

    That known about Gerard Batten and the duplicitous exploitation of his position to seek to suppress the truth and waste Police time by bearing false witness is beyond doubt – Thus the publication of Jasna Badzak was I believe made in good faith by those at Junius – in an effort to expose corruption within UKIP leadership as Junius have so many times before.

     

    To date I am not aware of a single solitary item posted of any material fact that is consequentially wrong or in any way untrue on their blog.

     

    Just as to date NEVER has it been shown that a single fact of any consequence published on my blog was untrue, false or dishonest, or even designed to mislead.<<

    It is very interesting to see the lack of honour among the chief protagonists with Mr Edwards now claiming that Junius may have been set up into publishing false information, a charge that is rejected by both Mr Lance-Watkins and (given their links to Mr Lance-Watkins’ rebuttal) the Junius team.

    G.L-W>> Perhaps the dishonourable coward making these allegations could identify with evidence how Junius or myself have in any way acted dishonourably – unlike himself! <<

    It would appear that the net is closing on the Junius team and this may have been one lie too many

    G.L-W>> Perhaps rather than fantasise the cowardly and dishonouarble poster could identify a single solitary ‘lie’ that Junius has written in many 100s of postings.

    Rather than dishonestly imply that somewhere Junius has ‘lied’ an example would add credibility to this cowardly low life’s anonimous postings and inuendo.<<

    – my personal belief is tht the Junius team have shown an almost Mr Warry like speed to publish the claims without seeking to verify them

    G.L-W>> I note this cowardly excrecence is seeking to defame with a broad brush demeaning themselves by so doing as clearly Mr. Warry has like Junius and I merely acted in good faith as a EUroRealist of long standing, in efforts to ‘clean-up’ UKIP seeking an organisation fit for purpose to represent or lead the EUroSceptic movement. <<

    – the headline is, for them on this occasion, to good to resist. Big mistake

    G.L-W>> So even underhand cowards have opinions though clearly he is not adequately convinced to put his name to his malicious self serving fantasies.<<

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    Its a falling out among thieves.

    G.L-W>> I resent and reject the implication in the attempt to smear and defame that I am or have ever been a thief or have ever acted dishonestly or dishonourably.

    I note even the poster is insufficiently convinced of his fantasy to put his name to his dishonesty.<<

    GLW used to get party inside information from Nigel Farage

    G.L-W>> May I ask what evidence the cowardly poster can present to support his claim and as there is none perhaps they will have the integrity to withdraw the allegation and apologise having the integrity to put his or her name to the correction. <<

    and used it to denigrate persons such as Mike Nattrass, Damian Hockney,etc.

    G.L-W>> Another dishonest and duplicitous effort to defame without a shred of evidence. <<

    Farage and he then fell out.

    G.L-W>> An outright lie – my opinion of Farage has not changed since I first became aware of him and I have NEVER fallen out with Farage – his insecurities are for him to deal with! <<

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    Trying to make mischief again I see mick!

    Let’s just assume for a second that this was a ‘set up’ then they have published a ‘set up lie’ not a direct lie.

    Also in years of publishing ‘stuff’ on the true nature of EUKIP I’d say Junius and GLW have been very accurate.

    And despite I’m sure Nigel and Co wishing to silence them only one court case over the copyright of a photograph which they LOST and have still to settle the costs.

    So they obviously are prepared to go to court so why not endless court cases against Junius and GLW?

    I’ll tell you why because Junius and GLW tell you how it is in EUKIP and don’t lie in what they report.

    Oh and BTW thanks mick for giving me the opportunity to explain the above to the viewing public to this forum.

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    G.L-W>> My thanks to Niall warry for his honourable effort to present the truth which is in virtually every aspect correct. <<
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    As you probably know Niall the coward GLW has in the past stopped posting about individuals because of threats of violence.

    G.L-W>> Yet another outright lie from Mick McGough in a desperate effort to defame and to save face for his consistent dishonesty.

    I have NEVER ceased to openly state the truth on any subject by threat of any kind from any source.

    Michael McGough your consistent dishonesty and outright misrepresentations and lies consistently bring EUroScepticism into disrepute and greatly aids the EU in discreditting the movement – Your actions are cowardly, contemptible and at times criminal.<<

    Trouble is most of those he attacks are too civilised and resorting to law is costly .

    G.L-W>> I have ALWAYS offered a right of reply, ALWAYS offered the right of correction of any point I have accidentally got wrong CLICK HERE and have consistently been willing to be cross examined in any public meeting on my statements and the exposure of corruption of those seeking to lead for gain at the expense of the public purse.

    Those who I have exposed are NOT gentlemen they are duplicitous low lifes and have clearly not resorted to law as a defence of ‘Veritas’ suffices in civilisation, despite the contemptible efforts to mislead by the likes of Mick mcGough and those in the UKIP claque.<<

    As a failed grubby second hand bookseller whose assets if any will be in his partner’s name is just not worth sueing.

    G.L-W>> Mick McGough demeans himself with this standard of childish and offensive comment which is so provably wrong, having founded the business and built it over the years never once seeking the assistance of any other party or any kind of public subsidies – Mick McGough was of corse an employed bean counter just another occupation as was mine.

    Rather satisfyingly, for me, was that from 1981 I was able to be self employed, with no boss, employing others and doing something I thoroughly enjoyed and despite health challenges was able to close our business with no debts as owner of the entire stock  which was extensive and support myself and my partner for some 7 years without recourse to benefits or the help of others.

    As for ‘grubby books’ one wonder what Mick McGough knows of books, clearly little if anything. Our most valuable stock item was some £20,000 and never once did we buy or sell any item of pornography as ALL our stock was on public display in 8 rooms and we were dependent on both families and parents for our livelihood.

     

    Mick McGough makes a fool of himself with his ill informed efforts to defame akin to his childish comments about pony tails and his efforts to defame based upon CLICK HERE & HERE<<

    But now he has gone too far by repeating the fantasies of an alien.

    Make sure you have clean nightwear Greg as the knock could come early one morning

    Where else will the knock come?

    Brussels,Bermondsey,Birmingham ? We must wait and see

    G.L-W>> Sadly UKIP leadership clique and its claque can hang their heads in shame as Mick McGough is by no means the only liar, criminal bully and fantasist in their ranks, which probably explains why UKIP in 20 years has been found guilty of fraud on so many occasions, has been proven to be liars, racists and damaging to the cause of Leave-The-EU with their contemptible behaviour.

    Not only was Tom Wise their MEP sent to prison for his theft but Mike Nattrass is well documented as having sought to protect him on the grounds that ALL UKIP MEPs were on the fiddle – as we have subsequently had proved to us with Derek Clark, despite his lies and dishonesty and contemptible efforts to dishonestly defame, had to repay a sizeable amount of money he had obtained fraudulently.

    Other UKIP MEPs who have been proven to fraudulently obtain money and have been forced to repay the money include, Graham Booth, Jeffrey Titford, Nigel Farage meanwhile I understand allegations have been made that are being investigated regarding Gerard Batten as with the investigation of David Bannerman and Stuart Agnew by OLAF which is ongoing.

    UKIP a party of increasingly little relevance, largely due to the incompetence of its leadership, the incredibly low calliber of its MEPs, the staggering ineptitude of its officers and staff and its fractured squabbling nature as they all seem all too willing to parade their differences and stab eachother in the back to jockey for position.

    It would seem that so much money has been stolen and misappropriated by those in positions of supposed trust in UKIP they are clearly not to be trusted, and clearly aren’t trusted by the public, with less than 30 elected seats in British politics out of some 19,500 available, after 20 years!<<

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I posted this in the Roger Hayes thread in British Police State:

Gerard Batten is a complete @rse. He has been fed the BCG drivel and swallowed it hook line and sinker. This is why nobody should vote for UKIP. I can honestly say, without fear of a writ from Gerard Batten, that he is the stupidest politician of the year. The speech was wrong. Batten knows nothing of the English legal system, which given the time he has been a MEP is quite disturbing. This pathetic speech will be used, rightfully so, by UKIP’s enemies to demonstrate what a bunch of utter fools UKIP has as MEPs.

Gerard Batten, for the avoidance of doubt, I state as fact and truth, that you are a second rate politician, a fool for all to see and that you are unfit to represent even the minutest percentage of the British people. You have brought the Eurosceptic cause into disrepute by your crass stupidity, I’d be surprised if Marine le Pen would want to sit in the same group as an utter numpty like you.

There is not a scintilla of libel in that quote. If Batten, a fool, were to issue a writ for libel, which I dearly hope he does, I would have him for costs. Gerard Batten you a fool – FACT. Sue me.

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I posted this in the Roger Hayes thread in British Police State:

There is not a scintilla of libel in that quote. If Batten, a fool, were to issue a writ for libel, which I dearly hope he does, I would have him for costs. Gerard Batten you a fool – FACT. Sue me.

Niall Warry said:

If one of the supposed better ones gets it so wrong what hope for EUKIP?

Clearly his quarterly piece in ‘Freedom Today’ for the Freedom Association is no guide to his abilities.

He appears to be the perfect EUKIP MEP – completely out of his depth and really there just to coin in the money.

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There is little to add on the issue other than point out that for a ludicrously highly paid MEP with little or no understanding of ethics, morality, integrity, common sense, law or justice to act in such an ill informed way is staggering.

However this is not a first for the racist, hypocrite Gerard Batten who has lied and brought UKIP into disrepuete by trying to prevent me telling the truth about him.

Gerard Batten was indubitably guilty of abuse of his elected office imn wastimng police time trying to imply, under the corrupt Human Rights Laws to which these United Kingdoms are committed by virtue of their malign and damaging membership of The EU and its utterly undemocratic Lisbon Treaty.

Gerard Batten went so far as to try to clame I had intimidated him and his wife by pointing out that it was my opinion that his racist attacks on Islam may well have more to do with his wife, who is a Filipino by birth, may well be a devotee of Cardinal Sin style Catholocism and that his posturing and many of his extremist and distasteful views may have more to do with his relationship with her than the interests of these United Kingdoms or his constituents – whom he is honour bound to represent NOT hypocritically attack based upon their chosen superstitions and beliefs within the law!

This grubby little low life has as I have shown over many postings is a traitor to the values and principles of these United Kingdoms and has some particulary vile criminal associates. He would also seem to have abused his position, not just to waste police time, by nepotistically paying large amounts of money to family members under a cloak of ‘expenses’.

A measure of the man is his association with the criminal Gregory Lauder-Frost who was sent to prison for having defrauded the health organisation for whom he worked of a considerable amount of money, and also the odious and thoroughly dishonest Mick McGough.

It is also of note that Gerard Batten has been at the heart of UKIP for many years and has never noticeably spoken out in condemnation of its undeniable corruption nor spoken of the many £Millions which would seem to have been trousered by its leadership team of which he is clearly a part.

I believe that Paul Wesson (sheltering behind his pseudonym Aardvark) makes undeniable statements of fact in his posting quoted above and I believe that the BCG abreviation stands for the deeply disturbed charlatan and scoundrel Brian Gerrish. For I doubt Paul Wesson was making comment on tuberculosis as in ‘Bacille Calmette–Guérin’, BCG!

The unfortunate and deeply challenged Brian Gerrish has tried to make issue of many cases in his attempts to besmirch established issues and organisations in Britain – not least of which would seem to be his obsession with his discredited interests in child abuse and interests in the idiotic posturings of the likes of  the French Polisher and sometime Special Constable Albert Burgess, discredited criminals Robert Green and Roger Hayes.

Sadly such gems of actual information unearthed by Gerrish are ensured derision due to his constant espousal of unfounded and misinterpreted conspiracy theories, such that he must by now be a board member of The Tin Foil Hat Fellowship!

Frankly as it seems Gerard Batten has no understanding of intelligent honourable behaviour, ethics or duty it is long overdue that UKIP demanded his resignation but as there is not a single solitary individual amongst UKIP’s leadership team of principle or gravitas, in my opinion, it may well prove hard for any of them to hang onto their lucrtative scam once the rotten apples are removed from the barrel!

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I can’t understand a UKIP MEP getting involved with BCG. He clearly took the BCG press release at face value without checking with the police, the local council or the courts system. The fact that Batten thinks there is a lawful argument for withholding council tax shows how stupid he is. There is no lawful argument for such behaviour. If there were the charlatan and conman Roger Hayes would not be in prison as he would have a defence. Hayes has been ‘withholding’ his tax for some considerable time. A warrant had to be issued to bring him before the court. He is one of a very small number of people who refuse to pay council tax (withholding is his word for not paying towards the society he lives in) and who go to prison. The legal process to get to this stage has already passed through lawful demands for council tax, through threats of legal action, through an initial hearing, through judgement against Hayes, through enforcement, through a garnish order and through bailiffs.

If Hayes and his stupid cronies (yes, BCG, I think you are all stupid) are the legal experts they claim to be they would have won this case at the first hearing. They have the same rights of appeal as everyone else. Hayes could have appealed all decisions against him and could have taken his case, on a point of law, to the Supreme Court. If he was right he would have won. Despite the idiotic comments of BCG members, when they’re allowed out of the wards, the fact is that the judges in the Supreme Court would have listened to all of their arguments and those of the other side. They would have weighed up both cases and made an honest judgement. The judgement would have been delivered in open court as well as in writing. Hayes and BCG know their arguments would have been demolished and their stupidity would have left them with a costs bill of hundreds of thousands of pounds. That’s why this process hasn’t been appealed – not because BCG and Hayes know they are right, but because they know they are wrong. Once a Supreme Court judgement on a national matter like taxation is published it binds all UK courts in perpetuity. The judgement would have analysed Hayes’ arguments, discussed them based on common law precedents and statutes and demolished them.

That is the real fear – the paper tiger would be exposed. Nobody would be able to write the rubbish that Hayes writes without other people citing the case as proof that they’re wrong. All of the arguments of Hayes, Harris, Gerrish, Burgess, Barnby, Mote, Scarth, Green et al might have been potted in one fell swoop. That would benefit the whole Eurosceptic movement as Common Purpose, Hollie Greig, freemen, treason and all of the other leitmotifs of the lunatic fringe could be consigned to the dustbin of legal history.

Sadly, that hasn’t happened and the fool Batten has nailed his reputation to the mast of a sinking pirate ship. If Farage doesn’t withdraw the UKIP whip today this speech of Batten’s will haunt UKIP at election time. If I were the other parties I would be distributing it far and wide and demanding my activists understand what a fool Batten has been. This speech will be a great relief to David Cameron as it will save him hundreds of thousands of wavering voters. Nails and coffins and UKIP spring to mind.

Remember that a UKIP MEP has publicly attacked, on the record in the EU Parliament, Wirral DC, Merseyside Police and the courts system. BCG has less than one member per constituency. UKIP has won 500 votes here – all from people who don’t vote for the traditional parties in any event. UKIP has lost the votes of local government workers, police and court staff nationwide. If I was a local government worker collecting council tax I would feel that Batten’s speech had undermined my lawful efforts to enforce the rules. If I was the arresting police I would feel that Gerard Batten, at a time of massive cuts, had kicked me in the guts. If I was a magistrate I would wonder why Batten referred to my court as secret, when it clearly is not. The fact that Batten is so stupid, along with BCG, that he doesn’t understand how our local government, police and courts work is no excuse.

Gerard Batten, you are a fool. Hang your head in shame.

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Cowardly UKIP Sock Puppet reminded of THE FACTS!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/06/2012

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The point at issue was a discussion of Ashley Mote‘s EUroSceptic credentials, NOT the fact that he was found guilty under strange circumstances of benefit fraud by a high powered team of some 12 Government Lawyers an offence long before he was elected as a UKIP MEP!

Nor of the fact that he has done all he can to clear his name believing, rightly or wrongly, that he was subject of a false verdict, based upon overwhelming ‘political’ pressures!

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Hi,
here is an interesting reminder of FACTS by Barbara Booker (ex UKIP resigned in disgust some time ago) for the attempt to smear the reputation of Ashley Mote as a EUroSceptic by one of the cowardly and fundamentally dishonest UKIP Leadership sock puppets.
It is sad that UKIP so consistently has its position befouled by the likes of such cowardly low lifes and their defamatory lies.:
Quote Originally Posted by Independent UKIP View Post
One aspect of Mote which has surprisingly not been given any attention in this topic is his decision to join ITS in the European Parliament. UKIP is almost universally criticised on here for being a part of EFD but Mote happily sat in a group with Alessandra Mussolini & the French National Front, amongst assorted others some of whom actually make them seem moderate! (I note that a Flemish ITS member is now in EFD.)
Ah, yes, the ITS group, standing for ‘Identity, Tradition, Sovereignty’, about which Nigel Farage told Portsmouth Today in January 2007: “Mr Mote was elected for UKIP, and the people who have voted for him would not expect him to be sitting with these people. It is a complicated process when deciding which group to join, and certain compromises have to be made, but sitting with people like that is beyond the pale”. The new group which Farage found beyond the pale included:

Frank Vanhecke of Vlaams Belang, currently a colleague of Farage himself and other UKIP MEPs in the EFD group

Philip Claeys (Vice-Chairman of ITS), Vlaams Belang, currently a fellow board member of UKIP MEP Godfrey Bloom in the European Alliance for Freedom (EAF)

Andreas Molzer (Bureau member of ITS), Austrian FPO, also currently a fellow board member of Godfrey Bloom in the EAF

Marine Le Pen, French FN, also of the EAF http://cep.rhul.ac.uk/cep-blog/2012/…n-freedom.html

Interestingly, when the new group was in the process of being set up in October 2006, EUObserver published an article ‘Far-right aims to form group in European Parliament’, claiming that some UKIP MEPs might join it. UKIP reacted strongly with a statement: “The UK Independence Party formally rejects the allegation made yesterday on the website of EUObserver.com that members of the party may have had talks with the proposed far right grouping being discussed in the European Parliament”.

UKIP forced a retraction and apology from EUObserver, with party chairman John Whittaker saying: “I am disturbed that EUObserver could print such a groundless allegation and I note that they have admitted that there is no substance to it”.

Makes you wonder what UKIP was bellyaching about. Its MEPs subsequently not only formed connections with former ITS members as listed above, but also with others referred to in the EUObserver article, the Lega Nord and League of Polish Families.

Funny how yesterday’s “far-right” and those who were “beyond the pale” have become today’s valued colleagues!

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Even Paul Wesson is making a fool of himself with what looks like a vitriolic vendetta against Ashley Mote as he bullies and browbeats anyone who dares to ask questions (BvL) regarding Mote’s conviction and the genuinely stated opinion of Niall Warry. It seems Wesson has quite lost his marbles as he is now trying to pretend I am posting on his squalid little forum which we know is packed with liars, cheats and UUKIP sock puppets ever willing to lie and defame those presenting facts and even banning people like myself, on the orders of UKIP for having published irefutable facts regarding UKIP.Many will remember how Anthony Butcher and his moderators were happy for anonimous lies about me to be published for UKIP, obeyed UKIP in repeated dishonesty and ad hominem comments regarding me when I showed beyond doubt that Nigel Farage’s chosen MEP Tom Wise was found guilty of colluding with Lindsay Jenkins to defraud the public purser – for which Tom Wise was subsequently jailed for 2 years and charges against Lindsay Jenkins were dropped when Tom Wise pleaded guilty during their trial!

As to Ashley Mote there is no doubt he was found guilty but I personally find the case to have failed to convince and I and some others question whether justice was seen to be done, for various reasons.I have little doubt that The Crown proved its case to its satisfaction – however odious as some may find Mote there is some doubt in my mind based upon timing and the determination of the crown to deploy some 12 lawyers to establish the weight of their case and expend around £1Million of public money on the alegation of about £70K of fraud.

I also empathise with the argument that pre paid tax on betting can be construed as having paid the due tax on any winnings – were that not the case the floor of most betting shops would be empty denuded of the unemployed who seem able to find considerable sums for gambling!The verdit may well have been returned in the court but in the public at large there is no doubt that a number of people consider that verdict to have failed to see justice done.

May I also add that the vendetta launched by some, such as Farage who even employed senior UKIP staff to follow the case and write the spin!

That conversely in the clear case of fraud whilst in elected office by Tom Wise, exploiting his elected position for personal gain (be minded Ashley Mote’s alleged and questionably proven offences were lomng before his election) Nigel Farage took no meaningful action against Tom Wise beyond repeatedly telling lies to and on the media regarding his having fired Tom Wise from UKIP, which he did NOT.

You may recal Tom Wise was a UKIP MEP until long after he had been exposedf as a fraudster by The Sunday Times and others and long after Mike Nattrass’ expletive riddled defence of Tom Wise on the grounds that if Tom Wiser was found guilty so would all The UKIP MEPs be!

May I also remind you that when The News of The World exposed Tom Wise’s greed and corruption Roger Helmer The Tory MEP was also supportive of Tom Wise even on the film taken by TNoTW!

Some may remember the open attack made on me by the duplicitous scoundrel Roger Helmer for seeking to expose corruption of those in public office – a stance followed by Mike Nattrass, Derek Clark, Mark Croucher, Paul Nuttall, Mike Nattrass, Graham Booth, Stuart Parr, Anthony Butcher, Lindsay Jenkins, Trevor Colman, Clive Page, Gawain Towler, Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, Stuart Gulleyslime, Malcolm Wood and many other liars and low lifes in and supportive of UKIP corruption – often for their own personal gain!

It is not just the utter incompetence of UKIP, as shown by their catastrophic performance in dometic politics, but their duplicitous, dishonest, defamatory cyber stalking and abuse that show that wityhout radical change they are clearly unfit for purpose as in the vanguard of EUroScepticism.

It will also be worth noting the irefutable racism, anti homosexuality and advocacy of violence amongst UKIP leadership team and their close associates that shows them for what they sadly have become – an enrichment clique supported by a vile claque seeking their own empowerment and or enrichment.
There are ZERO exceptions as none amongst the leadership team has EVER spoken out or tried to correct that fundamental corruption with the brave exception of Nikki Sinclaire and there is a sneaking suspicion that a fabricated case is being built to entrap her in a web of UKIP created lies – as revenge for braking ranks to do the job for which she was elected rather than perpetuate the leadership scams!
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UKIP Catastrophic Local Election Results Explained!

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This is the ‘text’ of the Full Report to UKIP NEC regarding the debacle and unprofessional shambles that is UKIP leadership’s abitity to run or manage virtually anything!

UKIP under its present leadership & structure is clearly unfit for purpose & corrupted!

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Hi,
the following information which exposes the rats nest that is UKIP leadership, with its utter incompetence, unprofessional behaviour, internal squabbling, back stabbing and the bungling stupidity of its crass salaried & unsalaried staff.
It is abundantly clear that UKIP’s utter incompetence makes them, on virtually every count, unfit for ANY responsible office – It is so sad to see the Party which so many of us have supported turned into a self serving scam in total betrayal of the EUroSceptic cause.
The parasites and liars like Mick McGough (and many more) defaming and lying to protect their personal interests – endless attacks based on their repetition of lies to mislead and beguile the gullible to keep their own positions.
Their own electoral returning officer’s detailed report on the selection and election process in The EUro elections showed current NEC members, like Mick McGough, to be willing to lie and cheat their associates and so called friends for their own personal gain and the report exposed so very much more, as presented to UKIP NEC but denied by the liars on the NEC for their own self preservation.
No doubt in the realisation that Junius & I had a copy of the latest report to The NEC – McGough & other low lifes in UKIP leadership claque have been desperately dissembling and openly telling lies about myself, Junius, UKFirstParty and various other UKIP supporters who have been driven out of the party by its corruption and incompetence – its betrayal of the very people who put these scum in office!

The detailed 19 page report published below was supplied to me as a .pdf by ‘e’Mail from a reliable source working as staff for UKIP in the EU, known to me. We have deliberately left it for a few days to permit wider circulation so that it could not be so readily traced to our sources and also so that more UKIP members would see it and it would be harder for UKIP’s corrupt leadership to scurry around and try to hide copies and deny the truth – as they have done in the past!

 

UKIP’s usual attempts to cover-up all too readily involve attacking the messenger and using usefull idiots and ambitious sock puppets to lie and defame the messenger.

 

A measure of the stupidity of UKIP is that in repeatedly telling lies they hugely damage themselves and as they have failed to find and identify a single solitary dishonest entry on the whole of my web site, blogs or various other postings they are shown for the low lifes and liars they clearly comprise.

 

Similarly with their duplicitous attacks on those who publish the Junius blog.

 

May I also remind them whatever character they invent for me does absolutely nothing to damage the facts conveyed or the details provided – There being not a single solitary ethical member of UKIP leadership or staff clearly as I would not cross the road to have a drink with such low lifes I clearly couldn’t care less what tyhey invent about me as they have proved time and again they are untrustworthy and self serving.

 

I have been, as yet, unable to load the material as a .pdf with its graphs and tables and in the interim am posting this document as a text document at the same time as Junius has agreed to publish the document.

I regret the layout is at times hard to follow but we are seeking a way to present the document with its original layout.

Absolutely no material has been deliberately added or removed – other than in electronic conversion from .pdf to text and uploading to this web site and in Junius’ case to Google’s Blogger or CLEARLY annotated as additional.
Confidential
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London Mayoral and Assembly Elections 2012
Detailed Election Report NEC May 2012

By Lawrence Webb
Content
1. The Results
2. Key Dates and Timings
3. The Campaign
4. Fresh Choice for London
5. Messages/ PEB
6. Appointed Candidates
7. Wasted Resources
8. Conclusion: Too Little Too Late
9. Appendix 1
10. Appendix 2
11. Appendix 3
12. Appendix 4
13. Appendix 5
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1) The Results
Mayor 1.96% +1.06%
List 4.5% +2.6% (deposit saved)
Constituency 4 deposits saved (+2)
Mayor London-wide (List)
It is important to note that although this shows the total number of second preference votes only 82,880
were valid for BJ and 102,355 were valid for KL this is because some people were either giving 1st and 2nd to
the same candidate or putting BJ first and KL second (and vice versa).
2) Key dates and timings
Summer 2010
Even before I had been selected as the UKIP Mayoral Candidate I had spent some time courting
specific interest groups, taxis and various groups affected by the low emission zones. This has
resulted in an article in the Daily Express and a monthly column in The Badge newspaper (a Taxi
publication). In addition to these I also had mentions in a number of trade press including the Ice
cream alliance and those covering the recovery industry.
September 2010
First attempt to get on the NEC to discuss the London elections.
February 2011
Submitted strategy to NEC (no action taken). It was stressed however that the Party would have
overall control rather than London region to avoid similar problems that had occurred in Wales.
Spring 2011
I attempted to start the candidate selection process – this was delayed to concentrate on the Mayor
selection.
June 2011
Steve Crowther attended the LRC meeting to oversee and direct preparations for the campaign. The
selection of candidates was discussed. As can be seen from this extract of the LRC minutes for
Thursday 16th June 2011 (point 4.4) the manifesto was always going to be a collusion of ideas from
all the Mayoral candidates and not as SC suggested in his report to the NEC, which implied that the
Manifesto was the sole responsibility of the incoming Mayoral candidate.
“Messaging. It proved extremely difficult to create the London manifesto, which should
have been effectively in place with the incoming Mayoral candidate”
Total % including 2nd preference votes
Total of all votes 3,971,484
Combined
Total
Combined
%
Boris Johnson 1225640 30.86
Ken Livingstone 1225316 30.85
Jenny Jones 462106 11.63
Brian Paddick 455466 11.46
Siohban Benita 296326 7.46
Lawrence Webb 204526 5.14
Carlos Cortiglia 102104 2.57
Top up list 2008 2012
List Total List Total
Conservative 3 11 835,535 3 9 708528 -3.0%
Labour 2 8 665,443 4 12 911204 +13.3%
Lib Dems 3 3 275,272 2 2 150447 -3.8%
Green 2 2 203,465 2 2 189215 +2.1%
UKIP 0 0 46,617 0 0 100040 +2.6%
BNP 1 1 130,714 0 0 47024 -3.3%
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July 2011
Steve Crowther once again attended the LRC and presented his ‘Proposed Plan for the London
Elections 2012’. My suggestion of selecting the Assembly candidates first to give them time to
embed themselves was overridden in favour of selecting the Mayoral candidate first using a public
vote; about which there was much scepticism amongst the LRC. The reluctance of the LRC was
overcome when it was explained that the proposed plan would enable UKIP to ‘harvest’ the details
of all those who participate in the process. SC appointed Lisa Duffy to oversee the campaign.

The main areas of policy were discussed; Transport and Crime being the two areas for which the Mayor has control.
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August 2011
Mayoral candidate selected. In the end this was decided on the member’s ballot alone because the
online vote was subject to a massive fraud and in the end failed to harvest any details.
October 2011
There was an altercation between Nigel Farage and Steven Woolfe where Nigel insisted that he
wanted Steven to be top of the list in London. Nigel was heard to say that he controlled the NEC
and if he didn’t do what Nigel wanted he would not be able to stand as an MEP elsewhere.
November 2011
The first ballot to select the Assembly candidates. Steve Crowther, Lisa Duffy and Peter Reeve
attend LRC meeting. The process for selecting the list candidates is presented by SC. LRC are very
concerned about the NEC altering the running order after the members have voted. SC said this was
to ensure the list was ‘balanced’ which raised further concerns he stressed however that changes
would only be made in extreme circumstances.
December 2011
The second ballot to select the Assembly candidates
January 2012
At the end of the month the NEC decided the order of the candidates on the list.
February 2012
The super-constituency candidates were appointed.
March 2012
Lisa Duffy was removed from the campaign (at the beginning of March).
Duncan Barkes leaves for pastures new (at end of March).
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Despite my best efforts to start planning for these elections to allow time for the candidates to embed
themselves into their constituencies and become aware of the local issues, the candidates were not finally
in place until three months before polling day.
NB: These Elections are at fixed intervals – the next one is Thursday 5th May 2016.
3) The Campaign
The early start of the campaign went well with Lisa, Duncan, Damian and I working on the messaging and a
media strategy. This had some degree of success with several hits in the media the best being on 8th March
when I was quoted in the Express, Star, Mirror and Metro (in their printed versions) and in the Mail,
Telegraph and London Loves Business online.
However there was no effective campaign from the point that Lisa was removed and there was no
effective media campaign from the point at which Duncan moved on. What is worse, is from the point that
Lisa was removed Janice Small failed to keep the agent (Peter Staveley) informed of expenditure: at the
very least this is wilfully negligent if not criminally negligent.
Even now Janice has failed to supply a proper record of what was spent and how it is to be allocated.
Similarly, events were missed from the campaign schedule despite advised well in advance.
Despite Havering being the best area for UKIP in London it was not included in Nigel’s campaign schedule
even though he did come for Question Time, which was broadcast from Havering the week before polling.

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This is one of two or more emails giving details of events in Havering
4) Fresh Choice for London
As Part of the messaging it had been decided to stress that UKIP was
a “fresh” alternative because Conservatives, Labour and Lib Dems
were putting up the same candidates as in 2008.
When the newspaper was produced it was done so believing that this
would be the principle campaign literature, and that;
“UKIP A Fresh Choice” should be registered as a Party description.
However after Lisa was replaced I was removed from any of the
decision making process.
There is a huge and fundamental difference between London the capital of the UK and London Region
which is not understood by those outside of London.
Although I live in London region I in no way consider myself to be a “Londoner” and nor do most of the
people who live in the outer boroughs where most of our support comes from. In the end the decision to
register and use “Fresh Choice For London” was made by those who do not know or understand
London/London Region, in the mistaken belief that it would appear on the ballot paper along with the
Party name.
As can been seen by the email threads in Appendix 1 and 2 there was total lack of command and control
nobody seemed to know who was doing what everyone wanted to take the glory but nobody wanted to
take responsibility
5) Messaging/ PEB
From the outset Steve Crowther was put in
charge of overall messaging as detailed in the
report presented to the NEC November
2011.

Despite having the areas of responsibility
explained he was keen to include other
policies not under the direct control of the
Mayor i.e. 5% Vat on beer and Cider. Other
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ideas were also included that were a distraction and difficult to defend (see
Appendix 3). Other suggested changes were simply ignored despite emails.
Similarly the Party Election Broadcast was poorly thought out. Attempts to
plan this last summer were ignored with the result that something had to be cobbled together at the last
minute (see Appendix 4).
6) Appointed Candidates
Having twice asked the members to vote on who they who like to see at the top of the Assembly List and
then ignored them had a devastating effect on the active London Membership. Much time was wasted
preventing members including Branch Officers resigning, when they should have been arranging stalls and
events in their areas. Similarly appointing S-C candidates had a similar effect.
It is clear that there was a determined attempt by the leadership to influence the NEC in deciding which
candidate was to be top of the list regardless of how the London members had voted. Unsubstantiated
comments were made with the clear intention of denigrating some whilst other comments were clearly
intended to promote others. Much was made of one candidate’s experience as a councillor (although not
relevant to the GLA). If the full facts had been known then I believe the outcome would have been very
different, there would have been a far greater motivation to get people elected, as it was senior Party
figures from around the country have stated that they believe that getting no one elected was preferable
to getting the wrong person elected.
Sorry – the last bit didn’t copy!
[Additional info – G.L-W.: More can be read of this regarding Steven Woolfe on this blog for Feb.2008 CLICK HERE]
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7) Wasted Resources
Although Peter Staveley had been appointed as the Agent and was therefore legally responsible for any
expenses incurred he was excluded, as was I, from any decision on how and where the money was spent.
We have spent £6000 on surveys and polling data, much of which proved to be whole inaccurate.
Similarly there was a lot of wasted effort promoting Super-Constituency candidates when the effort should
have been spent on promoting the London-wide list, the only place we were likely to win any prizes.
Although we saved double the number of deposits this time around we failed to get any one elected from
the List.
The advans were not deployed to the right areas and contained the wrong messages. The accompanying
music “Maybe it’s because I’m a Londoner” is more likely to have put voters off in our strongest areas as
they do not associate themselves as being Londoners.
The bus spent too much time in Westminster and central London and not in the outer boroughs where we
get our best votes.
8) Conclusion: Too Little Too Late
• Appointing candidates led to a disenfranchised membership
• The candidates were selected too late – to be effective they should have been in place at least a
year before the election to raise their profile.
• The people with local knowledge were ignored. Most disastrously with the result that UKIP did not
appear on the ballot paper.
• No effective campaign (after the beginning of March)
• No media strategy (after the end of March)
• Resources were poorly allocated
This campaign lacked any true chain of command, and people were given roles and responsibilities
beyond their capabilities. There was no check on spending or proper recording of what had been
spent. Even now Peter Staveley (the agent) is still being sent invoices for things he knew nothing
about (see Appendix 5).
Far from becoming a truly professional organisation we are less competent than ever making the
most basic of errors. Rather than leaving those who know London to run the campaign, it was run by
an uninformed committee (of non-Londoners) with the result that we ended up with a camel rather
than a horse.
The effects of the gerrymandering and leadership interference in this campaign will have long lasting
ramifications for the party as a whole. This, coupled with the recent statement by the current Leader
that he wants to stand joint Tory UKIP candidates has taken away all and any incentive for
candidates to ‘work’ a constituency in the years before an election as they run the risk of either being
replaced or asked to stand down.
END
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9. Appendix 1
From: Lawrence Webb <mailto:lawrencejwebb@btinternet.com>
To: reeve@ukip.org
Cc: ‘peter staveley’ <mailto:ukip@peterstaveley.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 11:44 AM
Subject: London DNO
Peter,
Just a quick reminder that I am still waiting for my DNO certificate.
What was the NEC’s decision on the party description? If approved what is the Elcom timescale on approval?
Regards,
Lawrence J Webb
UKIP London
Tel. 020 7403 7175
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From: Cllr Peter Reeve [mailto:reeve@ukip.org]
Sent: 06 March 2012 16:14
To: Lawrence Webb
Subject: Re: London DNO
HI Lawrence
They approved the London descriptor. Time scale is 10 to 20 days.
Will get DNO Cert over to you this evening.
Pete
Cllr Peter Reeve
Member for Ramsey – Cambridgeshire County Council UKIP Group Leader –
Huntingdonshire District Council tel : 07792 290 434 email :
reeve@ukip.org
NB forwarded to Peter Staveley
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From: UKIP [mailto:UKIP@PeterStaveley.co.uk]
Sent: 07 March 2012 11:54
To: ‘reeve@ukip.org’
Cc: ‘Lawrence Webb’
Subject: FW: London DNO
Peter
What is the party description? If I know it now then I can put it on all the forms.
10 to 20 days from today means that some candidates will potentially be submitting a nomination form with the
‘wrong’ description. If it does not make it onto the Elcom website by 20th March is there any letter of comfort we could
have from Elcom?
What is the party emblem we are going to use?
Please remember that I am urgently waiting your PDF letter of authority for me to receive electoral registers.
Regards
Peter Staveley
GLA Election Agent for UKIP London
07973 168742
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From: Cllr Peter Reeve [mailto:reeve@ukip.org]
Sent: 09 March 2012 05:45
To: UKIP
Subject: Re: London DNO
To Peter
The Description used is for the campaign team to decide, prob best to speak to Janice.
I can not confirm if the changes descriptors will be in place by 20th March as they have to go through ElCom vetting and
may not be approved. Janice may want to revert to the standard descriptors in order to add some clarity for form
filling.
Will let you know as soon as we get any confirmation from Elcom.
Pete
Cllr Peter Reeve
Member for Ramsey – Cambridgeshire County Council UKIP Group Leader – Huntingdonshire District Council tel : 07792
290 434 email : reeve@ukip.org
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From: Steve Crowther [mailto:sjcrowther@btinternet.com]
Sent: 11 March 2012 21:29
To: UKIP
Cc: reeve@ukip.org; Lawrence Webb; ‘david coburn’; ‘Elizabeth Jones’; pauljamesoakley@ntlworld.com;
chairman@ukip.org; ‘StevenWoolfe’; mickjackmcgough@gmail.com; ‘GawainTowler’; ‘MazharManzoor’;
mariannebowness@yahoo.co.uk; ‘Winston McKenzie’; smalljan@btinternet.com; ‘helen dixon’; ‘Paul Wiffen’; Michael
Corby; Jeff Bolter
Subject: Re: Winston’s leaflets
Dear Peter
Thank you for this clarification, and I am very pleased that you are the party’s appointed Agent for this election. Please
let me know if you need any support from me at any stage; it’s very important that you are able to fulfil this vital role
to the letter we can’t afford any slip-ups or legal anomalies.
I’ve added Michael Corby and Jeff Bolter to this circulation, I hope that’s right?
Regards, Steve
Stephen Crowther, Executive Chairman, UK Independence Party Eastacombe House, Heanton, Barnstaple, N. Devon
EX31 4DG Phone 01271 813844 Mobile 07775 787579
———-
From: UKIP [mailto:UKIP@PeterStaveley.co.uk]
Sent: 11 March 2012 21:59
To: Steve Crowther
Cc: reeve@ukip.org; Lawrence Webb; ‘david coburn’; ‘StevenWoolfe’; smalljan@btinternet.com
Subject: RE: Winston’s leaflets
Dear Steve
Thanks for that. I fully agree we cannot afford any slip-ups or legal anomalies.
The main thing that is holding me back at the moment is that Pete mentioned that he had applied to Elcom for the
authorisation for the new party description. However, he failed to state the exact wording that he (i.e. what the NEC
agreed) was applying for. Once I have that then I can ask the boroughs to check the nomination forms (subject to Elcom
agreeing) and then be one step further to meeting the 20th March deadline for nominations.
I have got back 4 Mayoral nomination forms and I will start checking them tomorrow and then, as a belt and braces, ask
the relevant boroughs to check them as well so that when we put in the Mayoral nomination that will get through
without any problems.
I do not wish to go too much into the Winston issue again but it is very disconcerting when Marianne mentions to the
Croydon AGM that Winston is going to have a campaign office and then to see a leaflet produced without any
consultation from myself and also the wrong imprint. Let’s be clear I will give the full and immediate authorisation for
any campaign expenditure if I have strong independent evidence that it has been agreed by at least Janice and David
(and preferably Steven and Lawrence as well). So I promise that I will not be a bar on expenditure. However, I do not
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expect to have to be Sherlock Holmes in order to find out about what candidates have apparently spent without
consulting me.
Similarly we need full records for any donations over £500 (or £50 if Winston has any donations).
Just so that you know unlike all other GLA Constituency Candidates I intend to deliver the nomination for Croydon and
Sutton personally. To a certain extent it is very convenient for me. However, from my previous experience with
Winston I feel that there is a risk that he would ‘accidentally’ lose the agent’s appointment form and possibly substitute
Marianne. Certainly if I were Winston or Marianne that is what I would try to do in order to get rid of Peter Staveley’s
involvement.
I would request that the party, and Pete Reeve as the NO ensures, that only Lawrence’s DNO certificate is used to
accompany Winston’s nomination. If he persuades another DNO to sign for him then we will be in chaos since he would
have an ‘independent’ UKIP nomination.
Obviously I am liaising with Lawrence on a regular basis on obtaining Lawrence’s signatures and his DNO form.
Regards
Peter Staveley
Electoral Agent for UKIP London
247 Davidson Road
Croydon
CR0 6DQ
07973 168742
———-
From: Steve Crowther [mailto:sjcrowther@btinternet.com]
Sent: 11 March 2012 22:53
To: UKIP
Cc: Peter Reeve
Subject: Re: Winston’s leaflets
Dear Peter
The agreed slogan was ‘Fresh Choice for London’. I don’t think any DNO certificates are still valid; they all lapsed at the
end of 2011. Only Pete can create new ones. I am copying him on this for clarity.
I understand your approach and entirely endorse it.
Regards, Steve
Stephen Crowther, Executive Chairman, UK Independence Party Eastacombe House, Heanton, Barnstaple, N. Devon
EX31 4DG Phone 01271 813844 Mobile 07775 787579
———-
From: UKIP [mailto:UKIP@PeterStaveley.co.uk]
Sent: 11 March 2012 23:04
To: Steve Crowther
Cc: Peter Reeve
Subject: RE: Winston’s leaflets
Steve
Just to be clear could you please confirm that the words UK I P do not appear in the party description? So in effect we
are relying on the emblem to convey the UKIP brand. Please note that “UK I P Fresh Choice for London” is not
admissible as that is seven words.
Thanks for the DNO clarification. Pete has already issued Lawrence with a DNO certificate for London and I have a copy
of that. So that side of things are sorted.
Thanks
Peter Staveley
Electoral Agent for UKIP London
247 Davidson Road
Croydon CR0 6DQ
07973 168742
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From: “Steve Crowther” <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>
To: “Peter Reeve” <reeve@ukip.org>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 8:31 AM
Subject: FW: Winston’s leaflets
Dear Peter
Please could you clarify this to Peter?
Regards, Steve
Stephen Crowther, Executive Chairman, UK Independence Party Eastacombe House, Heanton, Barnstaple, N. Devon
EX31 4DG Phone 01271 813844
Mobile 07775 787579
———-
From: Cllr Peter Reeve [mailto:reeve@ukip.org]
Sent: 12 March 2012 09:35
To: Steve Crowther
Cc: UKIP
Subject: Re: Winston’s leaflets
Hi Steve / Peter
I am not sure what I am being asked to clarify.
The Descriptor that the London team have asked to have registered is
“A Fresh Choice for London”
This has not yet been approved and when it is, it is for the campaign team in London to decide if they want to use it or
not. I have just requested the registration that the London team have asked for.
The party name will still be on the ballot paper and also appears in the logo. The bit that will change is the description
beneath the logo if that is what is requested on the nomination papers.
It is correct that UKIP Fresh choice for London would not be acceptable but no one has asked us to try to register it???
Hope this helps?
Pete
Cllr Peter Reeve
Member for Ramsey – Cambridgeshire County Council UKIP Group Leader – Huntingdonshire District Council tel : 07792
290 434 email :
reeve@ukip.org
———-
From: UKIP [mailto:UKIP@PeterStaveley.co.uk]
Sent: 12 March 2012 09:45
To: Cllr Peter Reeve
Subject: RE: Winston’s leaflets
Pete
I just wanted to be clear that we are not including UKIP in the description?
Also I wish to do informal checks with the boroughs. So it would be helpful if I could have something from you to say
that the description is being processed. It certainly does not need to be formal just an email from you to Elcom or a
copy of your letter to Elcom etc.
Regards
Peter Staveley
Electoral Agent for UKIP London
247 Davidson Road
CroydonCR0 6DQ
07973 168742
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10. Appendix 2
From: J SMALL <smalljan@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:38:26
To: <clancoburn@hotmail.co.uk>; <partydirector@ukip.org>; <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>; k.farage@yahoo.co.uk>;
<lawrencejwebb@btinternet.com>
Subject: Branding on ballot papers clarification
Hi all
Just to confirm what was agreed today following the discussions regarding the ballot paper wording.
The NEC had apparently agreed a ‘Fresh Choice for London’ with the UKIP logo appearing on the left of the paper.
David Coburn raised concerns over this and thought it would be better having the UKIP branding and wording clearly
spelt out.
However, as 13 nomination papers had been returned and approved it was agreed that this would not be possible.
After speaking to Lisa, Pete Reeve, David and Lawrence we agreed that the Fresh Choice would remain but on the ‘List’
ballot papers it would revert to UKIP logo and name. Peter and Lawrence are meeting the various officials to sign this
off tomorrow.
Regards
Janice
Janice Atkinson
020 8694 7587/07889 927430
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From: clancoburn@hotmail.co.uk
To: smalljan@btinternet.com; partydirector@ukip.org; sjcrowther@btinternet.com; k.farage@yahoo.co.uk;
lawrencejwebb@btinternet.com
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:51:25 +0000
Subject: Re: Branding on ballot papers clarification
Not quite ! I believe the NEC thought this was in addition to “UK Independence Party” not instead of. Either my ear
trumpet is bashed or the dementia business the PM has been banging on about has become contagious. Drunk or sober
I would not have substituted the party name for something warm and woolly. Simple stupid is best. That’s how the
voters like it. Too many cooks comrades !!! David Coburn London Chairman
Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange
———-
From: UKIP <UKIP@PeterStaveley.co.uk <mailto:UKIP@PeterStaveley.co.uk
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:11
For the Mayoral candidate and the GLA Constituency candidates the UKIP emblem with the party description “Fresh
Choice for London” will be shown. For the GLA List Candidate the UKIP emblem and the party description “UK
Independence Party” will be shown. This was the decision of the NEC, the party’s Nominating Officer and the Party
Chairman. I checked before putting it on the nomination papers.
Regards
Peter Staveley
Electoral Agent
for UKIP London 247 Davidson Road
Croydon CR0 6DQ
———-
From: Steven Woolfe [mailto:stevenwoolfe1@gmail.com]
Sent: 19 April 2012 07:32
To: UKIP
Peter
I don’t want to be pedantic, but the NEC only approved the phrase ” a Fresh Choice For London” could be included in
the Parties list of approved
ELCOM descriptors. As advised they should by the Parties Nominating Officer who had stated it was a request from the
London Campaign Team constituted at that time.
The NEC also approved that it was the London Campaign Team, as constituted at the time, choice whether to use it in
this election, how to use it best, whether it could be used under the rules of the London election. It was nit the decision
of the NEC to use the UKIP logo on the right of the ballet paper and descriptor under the name without the UKIP name.
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This would have been the upto the London Campaign Team.
This is all documented in the minutes and discussions.
Steven
Sent from my iPhone
———-
From: UKIP <UKIP@PeterStaveley.co.uk <mailto:UKIP@PeterStaveley.co.uk
Date: Thu 19 Apr 2012 08:05
Steven
Obviously I have not seen the minutes of the NEC and the public summary is not clear enough to determine what was
agreed (and in any case arrived too late to be of effect in this case).
However, on 11/3 at 21:58 I asked Steve Crowther what party description had been agreed by the NEC to be used. The
reply came back on 11/3 22:59 that “the agreed slogan was ‘Fresh Choice for London’.”
I fully accept that the NEC might not have agreed to use the party description ‘Fresh Choice for London’ but that is not
how it was communicated to me by the Chairman. I was also communicating with the Nominating Officer and his view
of the NEC decision was the same. Therefore, I stand by what I said on 18 Apr 2012, at 23:11 (below).
By the way on the ballot paper UKIP does not have a logo, it is the party emblem.
Peter
———-
From: Steven Woolfe [mailto:stevenwoolfe1@gmail.com]
Sent: 19 April 2012 08:17
To: UKIP
Subject: Re: Last 72 hours thoughts please
Peter
Are you saying that the NEC said that on the ballet paper A Fresh Choice for
London under the name of the candidate with the Party Emblem ? And that is what
the Party Chairman communicated to you ?
Sent from my iPhone
———-
From: Steven Woolfe <stevenwoolfe1@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 08:18:44
To: <clancoburn@hotmail.co.uk>; <mickjackmcgough@gmail.com>
Subject: Accusations of NEC control of Campaign
David and Mick
Please see below email correspondence between Peter and myself re the issues this morning. ( before your cease and
desist notice David)
The implication is clear that Peter believes he was told by SC and PR that the NEC decided to use the phrase in the
London campaign. As all three of us were on the committee that day and voted for the motion that would suggest we
part of the process that made the decision to use the descriptor on the ballot paper.
I know my recollection of events but is it your combined understanding that NEC decided to use it on the Ballot Paper
or left it for the London Campaign
Yours Steven
Sent from my iPhone
———-
From: UKIP <UKIP@PeterStaveley.co.uk <mailto:UKIP@PeterStaveley.co.uk> >
Date: 19 April 2012 08:36:10 GMT+01:00
To: Steven Woolfe <stevenwoolfe1@gmail.com <mailto:stevenwoolfe1@gmail.com> >
Subject: RE: Last 72 hours thoughts please
Steven
As I said, I am not allowed to see what the NEC said and, obviously, I was not at the NEC meeting. So my view of life has
to be how the NEC’s decisions were portrayed to me by the Steve Crowther and Pete Reeve. The “decision” was that
the party description for all of the London Election was “Fresh Choice for London”. Unfortunately they implied that it
was the NEC decision.
Peter
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From: david coburn <clancoburn@hotmail.co.uk
Date: Thu 19 Apr 2012 10:14
CONFIDENTIAL.
The NEC approved the use of this ludicrous phrase with other things like “…and residents” etc. at the
behest of Pete Reeves. The general understanding was that they were to be used in conjunction with “UKIP” but not
EXCLUDING. “UKIP” no one is that daft !!! Pete Reeves seems to have misunderstood what could be put on the ballot
paper and did not check it properly. When I went through my nomination papers in detail with Bexley when I was
putting them in the returning officer pointed out how it would appear and that UKIP would not be included in the
descriptor.. I called Pete Reeves on my mobile in front of the returning officer and Pete told me that was nonsense. I
passed the phone to the returning officer who confirmed what I had said. Pete then said something like “Woops!”
and giggled nervously. He had obviously misunderstood the regulations. I phoned Stavely who confirmed his
instructions. As a matter of fact he had questioned both Messrs Crowther and Reeve twice by email and Reeve had
confirmed the descriptor. So unusually for UKip Stavely actually obeyed orders. It was too late to change the
descriptor for the superconstituences as most had gone in and there was insufficient time to change the rest. After
frantic calls between myself, Reeves, Crowther and Nigel it was decided to carry on with the rest of the supers as
they were for the sake of consistency and I immediately ordered Messrs Stavely and Webb to drop everything and re
do the papers for the list and replace the descriptor with “UK Indepedence Party” If I hadn’t discovered this nonsense
we would have had “a fresh start for London” on the list too !!! I further suggested we should market the “fresh start
for London” as a cunning plan by our press and marketing wonks. Funnily enough they belived it as no one could be
that stupid. YOU COULDN’T MAKE IT UP !!! Yours aye David CONFIDENTlAL
Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange
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11. Appendix 3
From: Steve Crowther [mailto:sjcrowther@btinternet.com]
Sent: 15 February 2012 18:51
To: Lisa Duffy; Peter Staveley; Steven Woolfe; David Coburn; Lawrence Webb
Subject: P&C – Manifesto
Dear All
We need an eye-catching idea on crime. Paddick is trusted to look after it, just because he’s a copper, but his policy is
incoherent EXCEPT for one thing, which he’s nicked from us – neighbourhood watch patrols (like Pete’s Police in
Ramsey) “armed with torches and fluorescent jackets”.
How about: some revision of Police procedure in London that enables more citizen action, eg bringing back Citizen’s
Arrests. These (a long cherished imaginary ‘right’ of the freeborn Englishman) could trump Paddick’s hi-vis militia. I
don’t think he’d be able psychologically to match it.
We say that the Met Police will actively support and promote Citizens’ Arrests, through a well-publicised code of
practice and set of rules, plus active neighbourhood liaison – rather than, as they tend to do now, arresting the citizen
and charging them with assault/false imprisonment to get their numbers up.
As long as our plan is thought-through and coherent, it could look good to the Londoner who’s concerned about crime
and thinks the police don’t do squat about it except arrest innocent householders trying to protect their property.
Downsides? Okay, one or two, but we’ll deal with them when we’re in City Hall.
Whaddya think?
Regards, Steve
Stephen Crowther
Eastacombe House, Heanton, Barnstaple, N. Devon EX31 4DG
——–
From: Lawrence Webb [mailto:lawrencejwebb@btinternet.com]
Sent: 26 March 2012 15:01
To: ‘J SMALL’
Cc: ‘DamianWilson’; ‘UKIP’
Subject: S-C leaflet
Janice,
I have just spoken to Damian and all comms. is to come through you
Page one of this is fine although I would suggest changing the ‘UKIP’ in the first line with the party Logo
as this and “a fresh choice for London” are what will appear on the ballot paper
Of the three red circles the bottom one is meaningless without greater explanation for which there is no room.
Let’s change it to. Parking fines ‘a tax on small business’ or ‘crippling small business’
Of the three message points
Stronger on jobs OK
Safer on crime change to Tougher on Crime
Fairer on transport
• Introduce a flexible off-peak travel card
• 70 minute bus ticket allowing multiple changes within the time limit
Stop penalising the motorist
1. Scrap the congestion charge
2. 20 free parking across London
3. Free Saturday night and all-day Sunday parking
Also as on the op of page one change the word UKIP with the logo
NB on mine the printers address was not visible.
Lawrence J Webb
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From: J SMALL [mailto:smalljan@btinternet.com]
Sent: 26 March 2012 15:27
To: lawrenceWebb
Subject: Fw: super leaflet again.
You OK with this? We made some of the changes, logo is the approved one.
Regards
Janice
Janice Atkinson
020 8694 7587/07889 927430
——-
From: Lawrence Webb [mailto:lawrencejwebb@btinternet.com]
Sent: 26 March 2012 16:44
To: ‘J SMALL’
Cc: ‘DamianWilson’; ‘UKIP’
Subject: RE: super leaflet again.
Janice,
Save £10m in parking admin by putting one central authority in charge, instead of 33 local councils.
Unless this is going to be explained it is not going to float anyone’s boat £10m in the greater scheme of things is nothing
and admin… really!
If this is going to be used it must be bold..
Take parking enforcement away from greedy councils — save motorists £millions in wrongly issued parking charges
Lawrence J Webb
UKIP London
Tel. 020 7403 7175
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12. Appendix 4
From: Steve Crowther [mailto:sjcrowther@btinternet.com]
Sent: 01 April 2012 21:54
To: Steven Woolfe; Lawrence Webb
Subject: FW: Draft
Dear Lawrence, Steven
First draft PEB idea for your delectation. Your feedback appreciated.
Regards, Steve
Stephen Crowther, Executive Chairman, UK Independence Party
——
From: Lawrence Webb <lawrencejwebb@btinternet.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 15:58:59 +0100
To: Stephen Crowther <sjcrowther@btinternet.com>, ‘Steven Woolfe’ <stevenwoolfe1@gmail.com>
Cc: Janice Atkinson-Small <smalljan@btinternet.com>, David Coburn <clancoburn@hotmail.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Draft
Dear All,
I have only just had time to look at this in any detail and without wishing to put a downer on things it doesn’t give me a
warm fuzzy feeling.
Can we not use some of the graphics from the save the city DVD to avoid the talking heads.
I understand DC is moving into Wiffen territory and has come up with a script.
Lawrence J Webb
UKIP London
Tel. 020 7403 7175
——-
From: Steve Crowther [mailto:sjcrowther@btinternet.com]
Sent: 03 April 2012 16:27
To: Lawrence Webb; ‘Steven Woolfe’
Cc: Janice Atkinson-Small; David Coburn
Subject: Re: Draft
Dear Lawrence
Why would you want to avoid the ‘talking heads’? The ‘talking heads’ are the candidates we want them to vote for. You
are the star of this show. People mostly don’t watch PEBs if they can avoid them, especially if they’re made of
‘graphics’. If they are being spoken to by a nice bloke who seems to be making sense and is saying something
interesting, we have some chance to taking them with us.
We’re following a deliberate strategy here – talk about a very big and controversial issue (which hopefully will act as a
multiplier by getting us talked about in the media), but in a very personable, human, ordinary-folk-like-us way (which
hopefully will counteract any negative perceptions and win us support).
If we want people to engage with this, we need to do that: engage with them, person to person. If we want them to
take on board our message, we have to put it in such a way that they can feel reassured that we are nice, trustworthy,
next-door-neighbour people giving it to them – not some political machine.
And we’re asking them to vote for you. To get to the end of the film and go: I’m going to vote for them, they seem
alright and they make a lot of sense. This whole script is about playing to your strengths.
Regards, Steve
Stephen Crowther, Executive Chairman, UK Independence Party
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13. Appendix 5
From: UKIP [mailto:UKIP@PeterStaveley.co.uk]
Sent: 30 May 2012 16:25
To: J SMALL
Subject: RE: Public Meeting at Hillingdon
Janice
Firstly, why did you not tell me about the invoice at the time?
Secondly, why did you not ask me to authorise the expenditure as required by legislation? The situation of
unauthorised expenditure ‘appearing’ has arisen many times both during and after the election in spite of me
reminding you several times that ALL campaign expenditure needs to be authorised by the agent.
Thirdly, why did you state that I have received all the information when that was obviously not true? You, presumably,
kept detailed expenditure records and compared them with the information I supplied you. Obviously it is was true
then I presume that you will be challenging the invoice.
Fourthly, why was the media company having to Google information? They should have been given detailed
information as to where the invoice was to be sent and to whom the invoice was to be made out to.
Fifthly, as a matter of interest, who authorised that expenditure? Was it you, Annabelle or someone else? If it was not
you then why did that people not have the courtesy to tell me about it? I made strong efforts to respond to emails and
telephone calls promptly, so they could not claim that I was impossible to contact.
In any case since I received the invoice today it is now too late. I was required to have received all the invoices by last
Thursday. Now that all those invoices have been paid I have sent off the election returns and Helen has certified them
as being correct. So they cannot be changed.
Therefore, the invoice is not a campaign expense and nothing to do with me. I suggest that you direct the invoice to
head office for them to pay. Please let me know to whom, if anyone, I should send the invoice to?
Regards
Peter Staveley
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From: J SMALL [mailto:smalljan@btinternet.com]
Sent: 30 May 2012 15:55
To: Annabelle Fuller
Cc: UKIP
Subject: Re: Public Meeting at Hillingdon
It’s just like Jaws, just when you think it was safe to go back in the water …. [cue Jaws music]
Yes, we organised a public meeting, that’s what you do in campaigns and the hall was packed – coincidence? It should
be paid from the London campaign. It was probably sent to Queen Anne’s Gate because the media co Googled the
wrong address and all correspondence is being forwarded to Robin.
Regards
Janice Atkinson
020 8694 7587/07889 927430
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it does rather look, from the incomplete summary by Ian Gillman, as if UKIP leadership and its claque are responsible for several £Millions of the money stolen for the public purse and doled out as bribes to UKIP politicians, wannabes and chums and possibly the same again raised directly from supporters has been at worst trousered and at best squandered.

When will UKIP stop showboating, squabbling, posturing and basing the defence of their catastrophic failure in UK domestic politics on ad hominem attacks on its supporters who dare to criticise their utter incompetence, total lack of transparency, contempt for democracy and the clear signs of self serving greed and mediocracy amongst its leadership clique and their claque.

Clearly I could not make the comments about myself that Junius team have made but in mild embarrassment and gratitude for the clarification I can confirm them!

I have only EVER posted in support of the core aim of UKIP towards the aim of Leave-The-EU, that sadly this has involved exposing corruption, dishonesty, lies, self serving, incompetence, fraud and outright theft in the ranks of UKIP leadership clique was NEVER going to make me popular with the low lifes I have exposed, along with a very few other honest men and women who have had the integrity to speak out.

That UKIP is in direct debt to me for some £12,500 + a further £1,000 so far and are too dishonourable to settle the debt is unarguable, as they colluded in the failed court case trying to set me up and bankrupt me that their employee Mark Croucher aided directly by Paul Nuttall, Clive Page and others so resoundingly lost. That trash like this who lack even the integrity to settle their debts as they shelter behind the skirts of The EU perhaps shows just what un British standards they espouse.

That they pretend to such shamefully low standards and even openly default on their debts and lie to and in the courts renders UKIP in its present state completely unfit for purpose and little wonder that their last two major backers were professional gamblers and prior to that Sykes, who made his capital in scrap dealing, who dallied with them (as with Wheeler) in an attempt to put lead into the pencil of the Tories – similarly the duplicitous liar and political non entity Malcolm Pearson, who was considered too stupid, by Margaret Thatcher, to be put forward as an MP and was placed in The House of Lords for his access to money!

To cover their corruption they are all too willing to lie and defame – time and time again using their muppets and puppets and playing on the ambitions of the inadequates and failures they have surrounded themselves with. Inadequates and failures put in place so that their ONLY presentable public performer, duplicitous and self serving in his personal insecurity as he may be, can shine out unchallenged, like a cockerel on top of a dung heap in a particularly squalid farm yard!

I predicted with accuracy the catastrophic outcome of the last general election and also UKIP’s catastrophic result with 9 out of 4,987 available seats won in the local elections and amongst those 9 there are clearly those who do more harm to the EUroSceptic cause and these United Kingdoms than could have been claimed as good done by UKIP over the last 20 years. With standards so low UKIP will continue to go nowhere!

In almost 20 years UKIP has NEVER produced an unarguably sound briefing paper on any subject, has devised and published no Exit & Survival Strategy see CLICK HERE, has very little record of good publicity of any gravitas but much honest bad publicity! UKIP have not even EVER held a sound training program and has failed utterly to inform the British public as to how or why we would in fact be Better Off Out of the EU.

I predicted UKIP was going nowhere and was unfit for purpose and have unfortunately been proved 100% right.

Further I have been lied about, lied to, defamed and attacked for stating the truth again and again. In association with UKIP clearly patriotism, effort and the truth are feared and reveiled!

Unless UKIP has a RADICAL clean-up with resignations of almost all its dishonest, corrupt, indolent, self serving parasites in its leadership clique and their claque they have no meaningful role in British politics as the British people have so voted again and again in domestic politics.

UKIP in its present form is an excrescence doing great harm to the EUroSceptic cause of many of its genuine and ill informed members.

That UKIP has recruited amongst naive and ambitious nobodies, children on the make who with the encouragement of one adult will take on the world whether right or wrong and the elderly who have seen the slide from dignity of Britain whilst they brought6 up the present breed of self interested political nebishes of today!

UKIP must grow up, clean up and start to do some work or fold its tent, admitting it has abjectly failed, and leave the field open for a truly valid EUroRealist force to emerge.

Having a small claque of cowards and filth posturing to protect the rotten core of UKIP is NOT politics I respect, condone or am prepared to collude with – UKIP would seem to be utterly bereft of any of the great values of these United Kingdoms and little wonder that all it can find are failed city clerks, professional gamblers and the rejects of other parties to espouse its cause and suck the life blood out of Patriotism.

Surely UKIP in its self interest and greed must realise what damage they are doing to our Country – do they care or are they as many have claimed merely a buffer invented by the EU to bring EUroScepticism into disrepute?

Let us also note that UKIP having failed catastrophically in the local elections wuith a mere 9 seats out of 4,987 has not only proven their irrelevance in British politics but have done nothing whatsoever of note beyond seek scapegoats for their collective incompetence and attack all who try to show them for the charlatans they are in the hope of creating a clean up of the shower in leadership to give the party some hope of a future of some sort of relevance.

It may well be that UKIP is too ill informed to address the problems head on and campaign to inform the British people and for better media coverage at a time when Spain has effectively gone bust as no one would lend them the money to continue their clearly incompetent governance that sees them with 25% unemployment and a youth unemployment of almost 50% declared – they have absolutely no hope of repayment of loans and so no rational organisation would lend them money.

In steps the least rational financial institute in the world – The EU and in a desperate attempt to fudge the validity of their failed EUro currency they are GIVING Spain a £100 Billion bailout to keep them stumbling forward for a while – thus having failed to solve the Portuguese problem The Irish problem, the Italian problem, the Greek problem they now show they can not solve the Spanish problem.

Expect an upward flurry amongst the professional gamblers of the stock exchanges and money markets but when they realise this is just another handout of public money with no solution or long term gain the gamblers will realise the EUro is as busted as it ever was and without solution and them watch the crash!

Where is UKIP in stepping forward with ideas and solutions as they are paid to do – they like any fool can clamour at the failure but they were elected to WORK towards solutions and they have done NOTHING of any value.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

ADDITION 12:45hrs. 12-Jun-2012:
It will be noted that although Ian Gillman’s posting called upon the odious liar Mick McGough to help clarify the apparent systemic theft of money, in one way or another, by UKIP leadership clique and its claque one will note he duplicitously side stepped the request with the following comment posted on the UKIP controlled public forum at 07:21hrs. this morning:
Surely your best course of action Mr Gilman is to contact the Police,the Registrar of Companies,HMRC and the ICAEW with your concerns.Either action will be taken or you will be dismissed as a timewaster.
Clearly it was not Gillman’s intent to destroy UKIP at this stage but to clear up the doubt over missing £Millions he alludes to.

Initially the aim is to find answers and seek to clean the party up and try to give it a reputation and gravitas to restore its position as a force in EUroSceptic politics but clearly Mick McGough is too stupid to see this and seeks the nuclear option rather than admit his involvement in some area of the corruption as perhaps his collusion with Andrew Smith and the undemocratic behaviour of the eastern region committee or his lies regarding his position in the party to cheat his associates in selection on the PMEP lists.

Hard to tell but since clearly were he a man of integrity he could assist the party he clearly declines the opportunity – no doubt for personal gain.

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UKIP & Mental Health Failures!

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UKIP & Mental Health Failures!

UKIP Candidate fails to fill the seat John West was elected to, but has recently vacated due to time commitments!!
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you may remember just how corrupt UKIP leadership and those who were willing to lie, cheat and defame for their own personal enhancement such as the now Tory researcher working for David Bannerman for money, as ever, clearly as long as he can be paid by the EU it seems Peter Reeve has no ethics and less principles!

Or the likes of the low life and serial stalker Mick McGough who is so clearly obsessed with me one wonders if he is in command of any of his mental faculties! He is happy to lie on many subjects for his personal gain but his fantasies and groundless ill informed defamatory comments about me are not only criminal but hugely damage UKIP as a credible Party as he is a member of their executive and also his lies do little to help either The CBI or The Freedom Association.

One has to wonder if he is in fact in the employ of The EU or just a massive fan of the scam as he does so very much to damage the EUroSceptic cause and UKIP in particular.
Many will remember how he lied to promote himself on the UKIP MEP lists and then wandered around at the electoral count trying to intimidate John West & making a complete fool of himself and as ever demeaning UKIP!
Then the idiotic Mick McGough, not content with making a fool of himself tried desperately to get a photo of John West with a BNP member in fram – he did achieve that and made much of it – though the fact was that at the count the BNP member had his back to John West and each was talking to separate individuals!

The poor man is a liability to the EUroSceptic movement as when he was trying desperately to demean John West because he worked as a librarian, completely overlooking the fact that West has written and had published several books!

Much mokery was also made of the fact that in his own right John West was elected to the executive of his local mental health trust!

I note now that West has stood down as he can not afford the time, as he is taking a key role in setting up an Independent Radio Station and has been involved in the acquisition of equipment, studios and the training of new staff & devising schedules etc. I gather his own programmes will start sometime next month.

It should be an interesting series of programmes as he has a wealth of knowledge in several fields – not least of which is politics and political history! Such in fact that UKIP’s leader Malcolm Pearson personally asked him to rejoin UKIP!
Interestingly UKIP put forward a candidate for the mental health position, whether in an attempt to embarrass John West or merely to claim they had been elected to something!

You will note their candidate was not elected, despite the claims of UKIP’s great surge forward when 5% of the electorate and 9 seats out of 4,987 was presented as a huge achievement when clearly it was an embarrassing failure.

UKIP’s candidate in this election also failed to be elected t5o the seat John West had vacated!

Eyes wide shut this UKIP candidate failed to get elected to the job John West had vacated:

‘Eyes Wide Shut’
Cllr. Leon Stedman wants to be noted in UKIP!

So yet again UKIP has befouled its own image having so belittled John West when their own candidate bombed!

I’m sure Mick McGough could have given many tips to Leon Stedman on mental health, from his own personal experiences, delusions, criminality and obsessive fantasies!

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UKIP’s London Fiasco & Insurrection plans

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It may assist Insurrection plans amongst the squabbling and self serving leadership!!
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interestingly every candidate party received a copy of the handbook regarding the rules for the recent election.
In fact it was readily available for ALL to read at:
http://www.londonelects.org.uk/im-voter/information-booklet
Consider:

UKIP could and should have noticed the mistake about the ‘Fresh Choice’ listing in advance, let us remember that the PROMISE of Nigel Farage when elected was to professionalise UKIP, anyone  who has examined the voters guidebook – sent to all registered voters months before the election – would have known of the problem.

In that publication Lawrence Webb is repeatedly listed as ‘Fresh Choice for London’ only (p2 and all UKIP candidates on pages 22-26 for the constiuency candidates).

On page 5 a sample mayoral ballot paper is even shown where Lawrence Webb is merely listed as ‘Fresh choice for London’, albeit with the UKIP logo in the logo coloumn.

Surely even basic procedure and competency, let alone the PROMISED professionalisation and the bloated salaries of the incompetents on the payroll paid as Praise Singers for Farage would dictate checking this key booklet

This booklet5 was the main source of information about the elections for many Londers.

What went wrong in Mr Webb’s failed campaign?

I for one can not believe that Lawrence Webb did NOTHING in his own interests and in the interests of his own campaign.

Those paying attention will have noted that even prior to the election UKIP’s spin merchants were already spinning to cover for the decision to change the name of the party – which was of course the direct responsibility of the leader and his PROFESSIONAL and highly salaried clique and aided by the parasites who form his claque!

Was deliberately behaving as fools to damage UKIP’s chances of causing BoJo any damage by obtaining votes a deliberate decision made by Farage who did so very little to support any kind of credible campaign.

The London fiasco was just exemplary of the utterly crass and incompetent campaign during the elections across Britain that were such a catastrophy for UKIP and thus for the cause hoping to Leave-The-EU.

How could anyone but a liar and a delusional charlatan describe having ZERO net gains and only being elected to 9 seats out of 4,987 available when even the Greens were elected to 40 the almost unheard of SAMRA had a net gain of one, Respect gained 5 and the LibDims who risibly Farage’s part claims to rival claiming that UKIP is the third party in Britain – what a lie! The LibDims achieved 16% to UKIP’s catastrophic failure with 5% and 9 seats to the LibDims. 431!!

To try to present UKIP’s achievements as anything other than catastrophic failure is not just unprofessional but an outright lie.

UK style election mathematics

UK style election mathematics (Photo credit: Aleksi Aaltonen)

LITTLE WONDER:

those paying attention last week will have noticed that I was making thinly veiled allusions to the meeting due in London last Saturday!We understand that the meeting took place between Mata Andreasen and Gerard Batten supported by John Bufton with a view to seeking to orchestrate withdrawal from The EFD and the decapitation of UKIP leadership where if they can gain the support of one or two others Farage will lose his personal income stream and control of the EFD Group and may well see sense and quit as titular leader of UKIP after bringing the party into such obvious disrepute by his association with the extremist, racist, anti homosexual anti Jewish advocates of violence as a political tool – The Group which he personally chairs!!

Farage has shown beyond doubt that he is not capable of or competent to present professionalism and has habitually lied to party members, the electorate and the media in a manner which would indicate he is absolutely bereft of ethics, morality or any understanding of the difference between truth and outright lies.

The situation is likely to become more heated on Thursday when Mike Nattrass returns from yet another of his holidays, this time one of his Manila trips where it seems he has run to avoid the inconvenience of any need to participate in the recent elections!

Some may remember that this wealthy man has had a habit of disapearing at crucial times and talking of Times you may well remember he tried to blame The Sunday Times for his failing to perform credibly in the leadership election scam Farage orchestrated some time ago – some may have considered that he was on holiday in Manila during a large part of the campaign may well have had rather more to do with his failure!

However he returns on Thursday and is expected to support the call for Farage to step down and for the party to try to find a credible leader as clearly there isn’t one within its ranks as shown by their failure to address Farage’s self interest to date and merely capitalise on it for themselves, year in year out!

Tacit approval is expected from Trevor Colman but he is clearly a spent force of no consequence as he sabotaged his own credibility with his support for Tom Wise just as did Farage and Nattrass! Also Coleman is not enjoying good health it seems and frequently does not attend the EU citing health as his reason for non attendance!

William Legge (Dartmouth) is also expected to side with the Andreasen position as clearly he faces de-selection by Farage at the next EU elections having failed to contribute as Farage had hoped!!!

With Darmouth and Colman clearly out of the running we are assured that the shambolic and unprofessionally incompetent Steve Crowther and the ethically challenged and discredited Neil Hamilton are promised the first two places on Farage’s list for MEP.

UKIP is rightly, after the serial lies, defamatory dishonesty and endless infighting and utterly unprofessional behaviour of the leadership and the self serving behaviour of the parasites gathered in hope of preferment around them – UKIP is teetering on the edge of self destruction.

It was not just the catastrophic election results but that was exacerbated by the idiotic spin put on it by UKIP – spin that just was not credible and has been so clearly used by the left wing media to berate the Tories who they feel threaten their jobs by imposing responsible austerity after 13 years of profligate misrule that has left us bankrupt as a Country and governed by the EU, who so clearly use our money obtained with ZERO moral mandate and squandered on bribes to the media and extensive propaganda to cover for its corruption and abject failure as a social experiment!

UKIP has proved a tragic distraction from the ned to Leave-The-EU for survival and has hugely disapointed patriots who had such hopes of the party which unfortunately has failed to achieve ANYTHING of consequence towards the goal of Leave-The-EU in 20 years and seems unlikely to ever contribute to the cause due to utterly unprofessional behaviour, serial dishonesty, repeated corruption and the odious & childish behaviour of its representatives such as Mick McGough, Gawain Towler, Annabelle Fuller, Kevin Mahoney, Gerard Batten, Derek Clark and the rest of the risible claque of low lifes that form UKIP’s leadership and supporters including those too cowardly & ashamed to use their own names for their crass and unprofessional comments and behaviour.

One has to ask if ANY individuals or so called Party has done as much damage to the cause of Leave-The-EU has as Farage and his claque and UKIP as a party with 4% of the electorate voting for them when we KNOW that a majority of the British peoples wish to Leave-The-EU or at very least re-structure our relationship trading with our neighbours not ruled by them!

Let us hope that UKIP’s present collapse does not open the door for those who failed to make the grade in the party and walked away having been voted out as clearly unable to outmanouver Farage and his claque as they have proved their ineptitude.

Again and again we see UKIP’s hasbeens with detailed plans of how to form a party with a plethora of policies that clearly UKIP lacks the intellectual capacity to structure, and who on earth needs yet another political party posturing as contenders at the expense of the people and our Country.

We just want to Leave-The-EU and any other ambitions within UKIP detracts and dilutes the message and task at hand.

UKIP is fast moving to a position of betrayal and treachery on a par with that of Edward Heath, Geoffrey Rippon, Blair, Major, Kinnock, Jenkins, Hesseltine, Brown and the like in the extent to which they have assisted The EU!

Regards,

Greg_L-W.
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My Thanks to JUNIUS Blog’s Authors …

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My Thanks to JUNIUS Blog’s Authors …
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My Thanks to JUNIUS Blog’s Authors for their support relating to the vile, dishonest, cowardly and unprofessional behaviour of UKIP Leadership clique & its clamouring claque of supporters!

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I thank the Junius team for their complimentary words CLICK HERE.

I have also noted the criminal harassment of myself by the liar and low life Mick McGough and his utterly implausible claims in defence, which in fact compound the crime as all too often it is the cover-up lies that are yet more damaging than the original crime as is clear with Mick McGough‘s specious and unpleasant efforts at smearing and defaming me.

Being part of UKIP leadership claque and a member of their NEC and a prospective MEP his constantly resorting to lies and childish attempts to defame grounded on a clear lack of intelligence and fact continue to greatly harm UKIP.

Just as have the lies of Derek Clark & Nigel Farage over many years.

Yet again I challenge the sock puppets and brown nosers of UKIP whether in their own name or the likes of Annabelle Fuller, Kevin Mahoney and others posting under fake IDs to provide a single solitary example of where I have EVER lied about UKIP or ANY member of UKIP or ANY of tyheir policies or behaviour in ANY material manner.

Over the years despite their cyber bullying and outright lies, cyber stalking and obviously dishonest efforts at defamation they have failed totally to provide a single solitary example of material dishonesty – CLEARLY if ANYONE CAN in their own name provide any example with link to the actual context and show that it is wrong IT WILL BE CORRECTED and suitable apology made.

I have ALWAYS posted every single comment sent to my blogs which has had an identity shown and does not contain foul language or libel, for which I would be responsible if I published it.

From many conversations with Junius posters I understand they do likewise.

UKIP Leadership team have been shown to be liars, fraudsters, criminals, thieves and low lifes – Yet to date despite their idiotic clamourings they have not identified a single material error in many 1,000s of postings I have made nor I understand have they found factual errors in any of the Junius postings.

The vile way in which UKIP leadership unprofessionally and dishonestly manage and control UKIP being a clear example of their methods may well explain why the British public have so resoundingly rejected them in domestic politics and why after 20 years they still bump along the bottom of British politics with a norm return of 1 to 5% in elections and virtually no one ever elected to ANY office of consequence as a UKIP candi9date – Under 30 in some 19,500 available seats after 20 years!

Thank you again to Team Junius for their support relative to the odious lies and distortions of UKIP Leadership and its parasites.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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