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Farage’s UKIP Corruption, abuse, dishonesty, bullying & even rape

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/01/2014

Farage’s UKIP Corruption, abuse, dishonesty, bullying & even rape are all amongst the allegations & rumours surrounding these odious people.
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Farage’s UKIP offers Corruption, abuse, dishonesty, bullying, racism, extremism & even rape all are amongst the allegations & rumours surrounding these odious people, it is not just the bronze age superstitions that one of the many gods mankind has invented determines the weather on a localised per diem basis to orchestrate floods to punish the humanitarian action of legislating for homosexuals!!

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—–Original Message—–
From: mike nattrass <aipman@hotmail.co.uk>

To: REDACTED

Sent: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:32

Subject: FW: Check out Five ‘Barmy’ Ukip MEPs Ditched After Nigel Farage Clearout
 
Farage is now obviously on the ropes and trying to spin his problems against former UKIP MEPs.
 
When his own track record is exposed the public will understand why MEPs have walked away from him in disgust and do not want to be associated with his excesses in all areas.
The MEP resignations from UKIP have taken place over a period of 5 years, many trying to change things from inside UKIP before leaving and knowing that he was the problem, not UKIP members. 
 
There are many other recent high profile resignations including UKIP Chief Executive Will Gilpin and in Scotland Lord Monckton, making more than 20 “big UKIP names” who have recently departed in all.
 
Of those still sitting with him he recently tried to get rid of Lord Dartmouth and Gerard Batten by marking them down in the MEP “selection process” but he has failed. He also has little respect for the Chicken Farmer but as Stuart worships Farage as “Cock of the Rock” he is safe. John Bufton and Derek Clarke are leaving at the end of the term for personal reasons (both good people)
 
WHY DID HE LOOSE THE OTHER MEPs?
He ditched the hard work done on the manifesto because he wants to make policy on the hoof.
He stuck with racists in his EFD Group despite complaints from his MEPs, because without them he would lose money (money wins over principle in his world)
He then changed the Constitution to give himself total power, because he knows better than to let members have an honest vote.
He cannot dispose of Annabell Fuller because her story would make front pages and there is much more to say in this area.
He put up with Bloom, who found difficulty keeping pace with Farage’s drinking, until Bloom finally upstaged him!
He has moved total power and all resources to himself using the MEP budgets and taking away all UKIP MEPs rights to attend “delegations” as without their knowlege he used these as bargaining chips to attract foreign MEPs to his EFD Group.(Yet UKIP MEPs were under the impression that the objective was to save taxpayer’s money on “jollies”)
In 2004 he made it a rule, with no exceptions, that no UKIP MEP would employ their wife ….. then Animal Farm style he secretly employed his own wife.
Plenty more to say but the bottom line is that one by one people loyal to UKIP policy try to stop his manipulative madness and then resign.
 
It short he is a Dictator with major defects which are bringing him the title “Spivboy” and which will sink him before the May election.
All very sad for the good UKIP members who have tried so very hard to build a Party over the last 15 years and more.
 
Mike
MIKE NATTRASS MEP FRICS

I do take issue with Mike Nattrass in his ill informed belief that Derek Clark is a ‘good person’ as he is clearly a proven liar, fraud, bully and thief having amongst other things having been ordered to repay approaching €50,000 of tax payers money he had misappropriated. a sum similar to that which Tom Wise stole and was imprisoned for 2 years – one must assume Clarke did not meet with a similar fate in view of his advanced years and decrepitude.

Just who are Farage’s Barmy 5?

ukip

Frankly I don’t rate a single one as with ethical understanding, gravitas,
competence or integrity other than Sinclaire who at least was not prepared to
prostitute her principles for money and an easy ride politically on Farage’s
well bribed Gravy Train.

One wonders how Nattrass has selected his seemingly random figure of 5 MEPs who have lost faith in UKIP or have quit or opted not to stand again:
Nikki Sinclaire
Trevor Coleman
David Bannerman
Derek Clark
Marta Andreasen
Mike Nattrass
Godfrey Bloom

Which is a considerable percentage of the 12 MEPs elected to sit in Nigel Farage’s party whatever UKIP members might be duped to believe! Particularly when you consider just how low grade and useless are the few that have remained.

There is a very clear case to be made that the only MEP in UKIP who acted ethically and with integrity and has also done a great deal to raise public awareness to help to lead the public towards the aim of Leave-The-EU is Nikki Sinclaire. Sinclaire was prepared to risk her own political career on ethical grounds refusing to sit with Farage’s extrmist, racist, anti homosexual and anti Jewish pan EU EFD Group and stood up to the outright lies of Malcolm Lord Pearson and failed Tory Christopher Gill and the rest of the baying mob in Farage’s claque.

There is absolutely no argument against the fact that Nikki Sinclaire has received more publicity, done more work, used more of her own money and received more publicity for the cause of Leave-The-EU whilst still fulfilling her role acting on behalf of her constituents than all of the remaining MEPs working in Farage’s Party put together.

There is every possibility that the media will take no action at this stage to expose the truth about Farage’s party in the foolish belief that his success in the EU elections, although irrelevant, will be damaging to Cameron’s Tories and will thus favour the media in a swing to the left and the iresponsible profligacy and economic illiteracy of the Labour Party – who after unlucky 13 years did so much damage to our country we are still showing little signs of recovery despite the feeble efforts of the Tories towards austerity.

UKIP’s achievements in the EU elections are likely to be good unless the facts about the party are more widely revealed as they act as a perfect dustbin for protest votes in an EU election though clearly the electorate have seen through them sufficiently to ensure they are never likely to have an MP elected in a General Election nor sufficient councillors to influence anything of consequence, with less than 140 elected in any level of council, however impotent it/they may be.

The media will eventually have the courage and integrity to thoroughly investigate the party and its extremist, anti homosexual, racist, anti Jewish associates in the Pan EU EFD Group which Farage founded and no prostitutes any kind of principle to running spurred on by personal gain.

The widely discussed claims of corruption, theft of public and members money, sheltering of paedophiles and gang rape by senior members of the party, bank accounts in The Caymans Isle of Man and various other tax shelters, cash transfers of money from party accounts, bullying, bribery and dishonesty, abuse of privilege, suborning of justice and Press Complaints Commission, rape/sexual abuse? at conference and lies to the media can not all be untrue and I incline to believe have greater veracity than many would wish to believe are widespread.

Eventually a journalist will receive the backing of an ethical publication not intimidated by UKIP’s willingness to lie and their own lawyers and they will expose Farage and his vile clique and its corrupt claque of self serving spivs and low lifes in time to save us the embarrassment of a UKIP appointment to any domestic office of stature.
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UKIP for all its denials Is Racist to its core

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/01/2014

UKIP for all its denials Is Racist to its core
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UKIP for all its denials Is Racist to its core, as a title is apposite as there has been very little if any censure of overt racism and worse still clear and undeniable support of racism.

Some may feel the title would be more accurate as ‘UKIP is racist AT its core’ however that overlooks the huge number of racists amongst its members at all levels (disproportionate to the two main UK parties) particularly with its large influx of ex BNP members and close association with the EDL and EDP and the overt and unchallenged apparent racism of the likes of Gerard Batten, as is shown time after time by the behaviour of members at all levels.

UKIP constantly claims its reasons for membership of the EFD are to gain more money from the tax payers of the EU, and have more say in the EU Parliament – as a result of which they clearly aid the various extremists, racists, anti homosexual, Holocaust deniers, practicioners of violence and anti Jewish xenophobes of their Pan EU EFD Group.

UKIP is clearly and undeniably supporting and helping to fund racism, extremism, Holocaust denial, religious phobia and anti homosexuality with its associates in their EFD Group!!

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Hi,I guess we can expect UKIP to peddle more platitudes about not being racist against all the evidence.

The British media are constantly identifying instances where members of every rank in the party manifest their fundamental racist beliefs – Strangely the media are desperately trying to protect UKIP, in spite of this, as UKIP are a very good foil for the Tories and with a largely left wing press we see them again and again like bull fighters using UKIP as a cloak which they wave in the face of the Tories to try to gain a reaction.

The media does succeed and therefore they keep ensuring UKIP’s survival by giving them publicity yet pulling their punches because the still need UKIP as a red rag to wave at Cameron to try to cause his back benches to break ranks, which they are doing as they squabble over EU membership when clearly the electorate want either a very different relationship and restoration of our sovereignty and our democracy and the return of control of our borders, businesses and laws.

Clearly we are happy to be bound by the standards of global organisations we have a democratic say in such as WHO, WTO, CODEX, UN Davos and many more – rules and agreements in international trade and standards which currently the EU stamps its impramature and imposes them on its vassal regions adding to the imposition by subsuming the sovereignty of the nation states in denial of meaningful democracy and excercising unwanted political controls.

The media by and large are happy to use UKIP for their own ends, be that the left wing use as rag to the bull at the Tories and amongst the right wing media it is used to try to sharpen up and modify the policies of Tory leadership.

Clearly the media seek not to destroy UKIP by publishing the facts o the truth or they would persist in exposing the corruption, bullying and unpleasant practices of UKIP’s centralised absolute control of the leadership, the huge amounts of missing money or at very least unaccounted but most damning of all is the clear and undeniable racism which is best exposed by showing the extremist, racist, anti homosexual anti Jewish associations UKIP has built up – particularly in Nigel Farage’s EFD Group wich he exploits to fund seemingly himself as there are no records of donation by Farage to UKIP as he trousers such monies as he can obtain, banking in at least 3 different countries and possibly more to obfuscate his income and wealth and minimise his taxation one would assume!

Farage is not alone in these banking ruses of course and I am sure they will be within the law though morally reprehensible – it is such facts exposed to the public at large that would seriously damage UKIP, but clearly that would not play to the tune the media wish to play in manipulating British politics and the EU agenda which so conveniently funds and supports them with tax payers’ money, as with extensive subsidised loans and and hospitality not to mention the funding of the BBC by direct and mandatory tax payments in the form of license.

UKIP’s vile Mandela ‘slave’ rant exposed: Disgusting remarks made about South African president and murdered teenager Stephen Lawrence ‘reveal true face of party’

  • Controversial remarks were made on the party’s internal online forum
  • Mocked Mr Lawrence as ‘Saint Stephen’ and said his mother was ‘boring’
  • Another said some people were ‘intended by nature’ to be slaves
  • One said: ‘I actually agree with the EDL on what they protest about’

By Glen Owen

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Nigel Farage was last night at the centre of a new racism storm over shocking remarks made by UKIP officials about Nelson Mandela and the murdered black teenager Stephen Lawrence.

One mocked Mr Lawrence as ‘Saint Stephen’ and said his grieving mother was ‘boring us all to tears’.

Another, writing just days after Mandela’s death, said that some ‘base-born’ people were ‘intended by nature’ to be ‘slaves’.

Disprespectful: David William Griffith, a UKIP representative from West London, posted a comment days after Nelson Mandela's funeral saying: 'Some people were 'intended by nature' to be 'slaves'
Controversial: Pamela Creedy, secretary of UKIP's Redcar branch on 'Saint Stephen' Lawrence said: 'I'm sure his mother still grieves for him...[but] she risks...boring us all to tears

Sickening: UKIP members made comments about Nelson Mandela (left) and Doreen Lawrence, mother of the murdered Stephen, in posts on an internal party forum

Opponents said that the remarks – made on an internal party forum used by senior figures, including party leader Mr Farage – revealed the ‘true face’ of the party.

Some of the most shocking messages concerned Mr Lawrence, who was killed in a racist attack in South London in 1993.

 

Pamela Preedy, secretary of UKIP’s Redcar branch, wrote: ‘The image of Stephen Lawrence has been promoted to sainthood, with his own memorial site, constant invocation of his name in any discussion of racism; even to close down a discussion about immigration when the issue bore no relevance to his murder’.

Disrespectful: Pamela Creedy, the secretary of UKIP's Redcar branch, referred to the murder victim as 'Saint Stephen'

Disrespectful: Pamela Creedy, the secretary of UKIP’s Redcar branch, referred to the murder victim as ‘Saint Stephen’

Ms Preedy then accused David Cameron of ‘worshipping at the shrine of Saint Stephen’, complaining that ‘we are supposed to publicly mark the anniversaries of his death .  .  . Please give it a rest!’

Ms Preedy added in the message, left last year: ‘I’m sure his mother still grieves for him, but it’s time she did it privately without setting him up as some kind of media icon. She risks .  .  . boring us all to tears.’

Another contributor to the forum, Keith Woods, a UKIP council election candidate, commented as part of the same exchange: ‘As for St Stephen of Racism, I feel sorry for the parents of many white youths that have been murdered .  .  . no one seems to give a toss .  .  . your son gets murdered, you become an expert on race relations it seems .  .  . but only  if you are a particular colour’.

The death of former South African President Nelson Mandela last month prompted some UKIP members to discuss whether it was ‘time for a reappraisal’ of the reviled apartheid system.

David William Griffiths, a member of UKIP’s West London branch, used the site to argue that some people were ‘intended by nature’ to be slaves and were ‘marked out for subjection’ from birth.

He went on to quote selectively from Hindu literature to argue that a ‘base-born man’ can ‘never conceal his real nature’.

He concluded with the offensive line: ‘That kingdom in which such b*******, sullying [the purity of] the castes, are born, perishes quickly together with its inhabitants.’

The word b******* has been removed from the quote, on the grounds that it was ‘offensive language’ which had been ‘auto-deleted’.

Other postings appear to confirm the claims of UKIP’s opponents that many of its activists back the policies of openly racist far-Right groups such as the British National Party (BNP) and the English Defence League (EDL).

One councillor, who uses the online name Icini123, boasted: ‘Some individuals who voted for BNP in desperation, because there was no other alternate where we didn’t stand, have come over to us now.’

Outrage: Veteran anti-apartheid campaigner Peter Hain said the comments showed 'the true face of UKIP'

Outrage: Veteran anti-apartheid campaigner Peter Hain said the comments showed ‘the true face of UKIP’

Martin Caine, a UKIP committee member in Poole & Mid Dorset, wrote: ‘I actually agree with the EDL on what they protest about.’

And Alexander Monk, a UKIP member from Lowestoft, said: ‘What really grinds my gears about it is people are declaring the EDL as “extremist” which is tosh in my eyes.’

And in a message earlier this month, Brian Otridge, who is a campaign manager for UKIP’s North West Hampshire Branch, declared UKIP should be directly targeting BNP voters in the wake of their leader, Nick Griffin, being declared bankrupt.

New force: Mr Farage vowed to start a campaign for the 2015 General Election to ¿pick off¿ vulnerable seats, including several held by Labour

New force: Mr Farage vowed to start a campaign for the 2015 General Election to ¿pick off¿ vulnerable seats, including several held by Labour

Noting that the BNP received hundreds of thousands of votes in the 2010 General Election, Mr Otridge said: ‘We should be picking up 50-75 per cent of those now.’

Last night, veteran anti-apartheid campaigner Peter Hain said: ‘This is the true face of UKIP. Under their thin veil of respectability lurks rampant bigotry and prejudice, fed by disenchantment and feelings of social injustice.

‘None of these comments surprise me, because whenever I speak out about apartheid I am bombarded with bigoted and quasi-racist tweets from UKIP supporters.’

Last month this newspaper revealed that Victoria Ayling, an ally of Mr Farage, had been captured on video saying of immigrants: ‘I just want to send the lot back.’

Mr Farage vowed yesterday to start a new targeted campaign for the 2015 General Election to ‘pick off’ vulnerable seats, including several held by Labour.

He declared: ‘This party feels itself to be a new force in British politics. The goal is to get enough representation in Westminster to make the difference.’

Last night, commenting on the forum posts, a UKIP spokesman said: ‘UKIP does not endorse any of the comments made on this forum which go against the party’s principles and core values.

‘However, the party does not police open discussions. Where elected representatives or party figures make comments bringing the party into disrepute, we act accordingly.’

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Regards,

Greg_L-W.

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Hi,

UKIP’s Undeniable Racism

 

To clarify what some may have felt was a harsh title for my recent web posting CLICK HERE

I have amended the ‘Long Title’ for further clarity, as follows:


‘UKIP for all its denials Is Racist to its core, as a title is apposite as there has been very little if any censure of overt racism and worse still clear and undeniable support of racism.

Some may feel the title would be more accurate as ‘UKIP is racist AT its core’ however that overlooks the huge number of racists amongst its members at all levels (disproportionate to the two main UK parties) particularly with its large influx of ex BNP members and close association with the EDL and EDP and the overt and unchallenged apparent racism of the likes of Gerard Batten, as is shown time after time by the behaviour of members at all levels.

UKIP constantly claims its reasons for membership of the EFD are to gain more money from the tax payers of the EU, and have more say in the EU Parliament – as a result of which they clearly aid the various extremists, racists, anti homosexual, Holocaust deniers, practicioners of violence and anti Jewish xenophobes of their Pan EU EFD Group.

UKIP is clearly and undeniably supporting and helping to fund racism, extremism, Holocaust denial, religious phobia and anti homosexuality with its associates in their EFD Group!!’

 

I trust this, together with the extensive list of examples backing my statement via links and quotes will help to clarify why UKIP is undeniably a racist organisation that has prostituted its principles for perceived gain and the enrichment of the few in their leadership clique.

A brief perusal will show just how little is donated by those enriched by the party to anything much beyond their own efforts to seek re-election and further enrichment on the gravy train – The public must by now be all too aware of the fact that some amongst them, maybe all, also have overseas bank accounts to reduce their liability to British tax.

Do be minded, when considering their apparent donations, that not one of the MEPs would seem to have donated anywhere near the amount they can expect in EU pensions, little wonder they are all too willing to fund parts of their own re-election campaigns and the likes of Mike Nattrass and Godfrey Bloom manifest as being angered by their having been dropped as MEP candidates, though there is every possibility Godfrey Bloom will be reinstated at the last minute!

Blooms position as a chum of Nigel Farage’s currently having a ‘lover’s tiff’ was always on corrupt grounds having not been selected by the members in the first place and having been ‘placed’ by Farage as he ousted Dr. Richard North, seemingly as Richard North brought gravitas and competence, vision and structure to UKIP which Farage found at very least ‘challenging’ and seemingly removed him as a threat to his position leading UKIP long before his titular leadership.

Despite all this I find it likely UKIP will be largely aided by the media who, being by and large left wing and hugely bribed with tax payers money (either via lobbyists, of whom there are approx.. 10,000 in Brusells alone, or by subsidised loans and expenses from the EU or in terms of placement (or hope of) of obscene amounts of advertising by Labour should we be unfortunate enough to see them have a further period in which to destroy Britain as they clearly did in their previous unlucky 13 year term of economic illiteracy and obscene profligacy), are likely to provide a high level of support to UKIP to act as a weapon against the Tory party.

UKIP are likely to do well acting as the dustbin  into which protest votes are cast, as the public are well aware that Britain has virtually no say or control over our own country and its laws via membership of the utterly corrupt and undemocratic EU. However there is little chance of UKIP improving on its catastrophic failures in all previous UK elections in 2015 and beyond as they are bereft of gravitas, strategy, tactics or professionalism with the shoddiest of structures and incompetent leadership.

It seems likely that UKIP will make the occasional showing in by elections where second i9s much proclaimed by them relative to Westminster and even EU Regional Governance scams like the various regional assemblies. As for Local Government they have by and large proved catastrophic and with less than 140 Councillors across the country after 21 years they can only be described as an also ran irelevance and are, under their present leadership likely to continue thus – especially in view of their undeniable racism, bullying and unprofessionalism.

After 21 years it is astonishing to realise the party is still in real terms a one man band rigidly, but incompetently, controlled from the center and without even an exit and survival strategy relative to the EU – That their one man is a competent ya-boo orator ever willing to make sound bites insulting people from the floor of the EU’s stage is really all that UKIP has to offer. There is always someone who is willing to praise such behaviour and claim it to be sagacity but be it Rory Bremner or Dave Allen before him able to play to an audience Farage’s antics are by and large seen as the comedy turn in the EU and make not a moment of difference.

Name a single solitary actual achievement in terms of leading Britain out of the EU that can be claimed by UKIP and of the 60,000,000+ in Britain I doubt if more than 500,000 (if that) have ever seen his EU Parliament performances, the same people will include those who have seen him elsewhere and his performances on his pet programme Question Time are as often damaging as they may be claimed helpful.

 

 

Regards,

Greg_L-W.

 

PS.: I have included this letter in the relevant post on my weBLOG at:

https://ukip-vs-eukip.com/2014/01/12/ukip-for-all-its-denials-is-racist-to-its-core

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Nattrass further Berates the Farage Cult – UKIP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/12/2013

#Nattrass further Berates the Farage Cult – UKIP

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Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

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The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

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Mike Nattrass further Berates the Nigel Farage Cult – UKIP & its racist base in the EFD!

 

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crewe and nantwich by election candidate mike nattrass   PSCI have been your MEP since 2004 and have fought for the Independence movement since standing at Dudley in 1994. I was UKIP Party Chairman under Jefferey Titford and UKIP Deputy Leader under Roger Knapman.

 

Over that period I have reported to you on amazing situations in the EU parliament including debates on the length of chicken’s beaks and “how much wine there is in a wine gum.” My opposition to  HS2 changed the UKIP policy, an EU inspired railway under project TEN-T. My opposition to the Hartlebury Incinerator highlighted poor value by the imposition of EU regulations. I was instrumental in saving flood defences in Warwick, which subsequently proved very necessary. I was pleased to save Walsall Market from Councillors who preferred to take the redevelopment money over their duty as trustees to protect this ancient market tradition.

 

 I was one of the three MEPs to fund and present a national petition to 10 Downing Street. This provoked the vote in the House of Commons which embarrassed the Government. The referendum debate has continued ever since.

 

In one year my reports about the EU from within, made 1100 newspaper “hits” thanks to Craig Winyard helping me in my office with the press targets.

 

You will know that I was deselected by Nigel Farage for the European 2014 election. At the subsequent court case it was stated that this was because I was “disloyal” Why?, because I reported to the UKIP NEC that racism existed in the EFD Group. I criticised Nigel Farage, leader of the group, for not rejecting these people. My input was later proven to be correct when an Italian Group member ”Mario Borghezio” supported the views of the Norwegian mass murderer and went on to abuse a black Italian lady Government Minister. But I was rewarded by de-selection!

 

I finally resigned from UKIP when Nigel Farage in a Strasbourg MEP meeting explained the legal means (under the UKIP Constitution) by which he was able to rig/change members votes in the candidate selection process, saying that it had already been done in the London Assembly elections. I had also campaigned against the revised UKIP Constitution which allowed this process and effectively gives power to one man. If you need more information about any of the above please ask, as this information is correct. My assistants Jane, Jill, Syd and Paul remain in the Hampton in Arden MEP offices.  0121 333 7737  should you wish to speak.

 

Thus, with no other option, a new party was born in November 2013. AN INDEPENDENCE PARTY with a clear logo (see below) and a clear slogan “UK REFERENDUM and OUT” If you wish to follow party progress please try www.aipmep.org  or if you never again wish to hear from me, please respond by letter or email to aipmep@hotmail.co.uk and I will not darken your door/letterbox again. On 22nd May 2014 AN INDEPENDENCE PARTY will stand in all English and Welsh Constituencies and should you wish to stand in 2014 or in 2015, please send your details. Mike MIKE NATTRASS, AN INDEPENDENCE PARTY MEP Better off out

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Clearly Mike Nattrass has fallen out with Farage, and rightly so, but his endless dithering one minute resigning from Farage’s racist & extremist EFD Group, yet shortly after rejoining to enhance his chances of selection after his outspoken, all be it accurate, attack on Farage had every display of lack of moral fiber.

 

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Clearly Mike Nattrass has little to offer as an MEP and in his two stints to date he has been conspicuous by his inconsequentiality with his relatively limp attempts to address transport issues, his unconvincing efforts to oppose HS2, where he had no clear campaign or strategy being largely reactive to any opportunity to promote himself in the media.

You will note his consideration of the length of chickens’ beaks to have been of consequence and substance.

To be fair his support of Nikki Sinclaire’s petition initiative must surely have helped her obtain some additional signatures, as wi8th the various other MPs & MEPs she marshalled for the campaign that eventually led to her forcing Cameron to hold a debate on the issue of EU membership and eventually promise a referendum, which we now hear he intends to ring fence in law by enactment of The Parliament Act top ensure whoever forms the next Government is bound to hold an In/Out ReferendumWell done Nikki Sinclaire and thanks to the many who, like Mike Nattrass, supported her efforts. Clearly Mike Nattrass invested wisely in the past to get himself elected, frequently fooling the more gullible to believe he was generously financing UKIP!

A measure of just how weak UKIP’s position has become is displayed by their clear lack of a credible MEP candidate in the West Midlands, pleasant and well meaning as their local Parich Councillor Jill Seymour may be she is hopelessly out of her depth as a prospective MEP, now that Nikki Sinclaire will be standing as a candidate for We Demand A Referendum.

The We Demand A Referendum cause which the ill advised Nattrass seeks to piggy back on, using the same concept but only likely to harm the cause.

Presumably the large shuffle of his staff is geared to being able to fund candidates for the upcoming election, in which there is little doubt, with Nattrass’s dithering skills and poor selection of allies

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and his dalliance with the buffoons in the English Democrat Party and the toxic Tillbrook!
Tend to ensures all his candidates are likely to lose their deposits and when you think the bill for paper alone, for election leaflets, is likely to exceed £20,000 if he wishes to hit every home one must wonder at the man’s sanity in what seems to be an ego fueled bitter attack on having been outmaneuvered by Farage and his cult.

Clearly Nattrass is likely to do considerably more harm than good to the EUroSceptic cause as sadly will Farage’s Party with their cheap pandering to an anti immigrant policy from a foundation amongst their associates of undeniable racist extremism.

I also find Nattrass to be not only stupid, as displayed by his rush to the courts to try to use the courts to overturn UKIP’s corrupted constitution and the powers granted to Farage, their star performer, within his own fiefdom.

Not to mention his foolish sabre rattling against The Sunday Times over the article by Daniel Foggo where he drew so much attention to the accuracy of the article about him.

Some may have noticed Nattrass’s denials of involvement in his company Nattrass Giles at a time when his employee (funded as an EU employee) was being found guilty, and sentenced to prison for fraud within the company in which there is every reason to believe Nattrass was embroiled and was, it is fairly reliably rumoured, fined a sum in excess of 6 figures.

That there is credibility in the rumours would seem to be endorsed by the fact that Nattrass has rehired his old employee on his EU payroll, it seems, now that his prison sentence is over – a strange action unless of course he feels indebted!

After the string of poor judgements and foolish decisions by Mike Nattrass I for one hope that he has the good grace to withdraw from the election as he seemingly has little or nothing of merit to offer and he has lost most of his long term staff who at least gave him a semblance of competence.

 

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May he and Joyce enjoy a long and happy retirement as she has surely earned it!
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TO LEAVE THE EU What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants. The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING. Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that goal of unanimity in aim!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!
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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider: Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

 

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Ongoing War In UKIP Scotland & other areas

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Ongoing War In UKIP Scotland & most other areas as members fight like ferrets in a sack for a place at the troughs on the gravy train!!

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UKIP in Scotland is in “turmoil” after six of its nine European candidates quit amid allegations of dirty tricks and claims an ally of UK leader Nigel Farage was unfairly helped in the contest.

Ukip's Scottish leader Christopher Monckton and David Coburn, 'ally' of Nigel Farage, right

Ukip’s Scottish leader Christopher Monckton and David Coburn, ‘ally’ of Nigel Farage, right

The six, who include Scottish leader Lord Christopher Monckton and chair Mike Scott-Hayward, stood down as ballot papers were about to be sent out.

But the party pushed ahead with the selection and David Coburn, who is Ukip’s London chair, was the controversial winner. A party source described the process as a “shambles” and evidence of London “parachuting in” a candidate.

Ukip in Scotland has failed to replicate the party’s success south of the Border, where Farage and his team have elected representatives in town halls and Brussels. At recent Holyrood by-elections, Otto Inglis polled 4.83% in Aberdeen Donside and Peter Adams got 3.75% in Dunfermline.

But Ukip in England is tipped to do well in next year’s European election, with the Scottish party in the hunt to take one of Scotland’s six MEP seats.

The prospect of a breakthrough prompted some of the Scottish wing’s biggest hitters to stand in the contest.

Nine candidates were shortlisted: Monckton; Scott-Hayward; Inglis; Coburn; Paul Henke; Ross Durance; Malcolm Macaskill; Steven McKeane; and Kevin Newton.

The selection was aimed at whittling down the nine hopefuls to six.

Whoever came top of the internal ballot had, in the words of one insider, a “decent” chance of becoming an MEP next year. But the selection has prompted an extraordinary bout of infighting and a civil war between the UK party and its Scottish branch. On the eve of ballot papers being sent out to Scottish members in September, some candidates became concerned about the alleged tactics being used by Inglis.

There was also suspicion about the presence in the race of Coburn, who was believed to be an ally of Farage.

Fears were aggravated when Ukip’s Lanarkshire branch sent an email saying it endorsed Coburn and Inglis as “preferred lead and second candidates”. The statement added: “Lanarkshire branch office bearers and members are thereby requested to canvass and cast votes on behalf of David Coburn and Otto Inglis alone.”

The grievances came to a head at a candidates’ summit in Edinburgh in September. Seven of the nine – the exceptions being Inglis and Coburn – resigned as candidates in an email to Ukip chair Steve Crowther. They stated: “We withdraw as candidates for European parliamentary seats.”

In a clear dig at Coburn, they claimed that “Ukip’s leader had invited a London friend to stand”, adding a senior figure in the contest had “unfairly advantaged him”.

The letter complained about the alleged tactics of another candidate, which a source confirmed as Inglis.

They said of the Lanarkshire email: “A branch broke the rules by widely endorsing these two candidates.”

The candidates claimed that Ukip in London “twice refused” to suspend the ballot pending an investigation.

It is understood Newton reversed his decision to quit.

Despite this meltdown, Ukip sent ballot papers to Scottish members with all nine candidates on it.

With more than half of the contenders no longer competing, it left the relatively unknown Coburn with a huge opportunity, which he took, as he topped the poll.

One source said Ukip has presided over a “shambles” in Scotland: “It would appear they think parachuting in a London-based Scot is the answer. You cannot invite candidates to join a fair election fight when in reality the whole ballot appears to have been fixed from the start.”

The source added: “We have blown any prospects of electoral success in next year’s European elections.”

Ukip recently published the results of the list rankings for Wales, Northern Ireland and regions in England, but not Scotland.

Coburn describes himself as “Lead Ukip Scotland MEP Candidate” on his Twitter feed.

The mass resignation is the latest setback for Farage’s party in Scotland. Earlier this year, Farage had to abandon a press conference in an Edinburgh pub after being heckled.

He said: “The anger, the hatred, the shouting, the snarling, the swearing was all linked in to a desire for the Union Jack to be burnt.”

Asked about the resignations, Lord Monckton said: “I just want to confirm where we’ve got to with London. Once that’s been sorted out, the position will become clear.”

Asked why he resigned, he said: “We will go into all of that after London has come up with its answer.”

Henke said of his decision to withdraw: “It was about fairness. I took my name off the list.”

Inglis said: “Speak to someone further up the tree.”

Coburn said that he had won the internal contest, but denied Farage had asked him to stand. Asked about the six resignations, he said: “I can’t really discuss the list. I’m just a candidate like everyone else.”

He added: “There is no civil war in Ukip Scotland. There are always disgruntled people everywhere.”

Macaskill, Durance and Scott-Hayward did not return calls.

McKeane declined to comment, while Newton could not be contacted.

SNP MEP Alyn Smith said: “Ukip in Scotland are clearly in turmoil, and the reality is that people are not buying the prejudice they are selling.”

A Ukip spokesman said: “Ukip’s candidate list for the European Elections in Scotland has not yet been announced because of a dispute within Ukip Scotland, which has seen some candidates, including the Scottish Leader Lord Monckton, at odds with others.

“Several of the candidates, including Lord Monckton, withdrew from the list in September shortly before the ballot papers were despatched. The Party’s National Executive Committee decided that it would nonetheless proceed with the ballot, which was won by David Coburn.

“The NEC has subsequently reviewed the situation and, with the withdrawn candidates declining its requests to return to the list, has resolved to move forward.

“David Coburn will be the lead candidate, supported by a full list of nationally approved candidates which will be announced shortly.”

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Predictable as this shambles is it is far from new as a quick glance at UKIP’s own returning officer’s report for a previously rigged election controlled by Farage’s grubby little clique shows CLICK HEREAlso consider the unprofessional incompetence in the London Region 2012 elections CLICK HERE
UKIP may have managed to sell a ‘man of the people’ image for its leader but if this is how ‘the man of the people’ and his people behave little wonder that in 20 years they have failed to even come realistically close to having an MP elected, they have a mere 147 Councillors elected and several have quit or been duplicitously dumped leaving around 120 I believe and as for MEPs Farage can only really claim the support of about 4 out of his original 13 elected.The party is clearly appealing to an extremist racist, anti homosexual, anti Jewish agenda despite its claims. It can not be denied that Nigel Farage’s cheeky chappy facade has strong pulling power amongst a rather unappealing sector of the electorate and he has been able to capitalise on the collapse of the BNP, dissaray of the EDL and ineptitude of the Robin Tillbrook party.Scotland is clearly not the only area in UKIP in a shambles as the briefest of Google searches will show with a full on war in the Press Office that has seen the unprincipled Gawain Towler ousted and saving face by having been given a less relevant job as a researcher in Brussels and third place in the UKIP SW Regional MEP bid for the gravy train.It would be no surprise if he found himself replaced by the scoundrel and serial failure Mark Croucher who has been proven to be only too willing to default on his debts and lie on Farage’s behalf in the past.

You may wish to investigate the debacle and bullying by UKIP in the Lincolnshire region, which shows beyond doubt UKIP’s inability to act ethically or with any decorum as clearly they are unprofessional and without any vestige of competent leadership.

This has given rise to widespread bad publicity in the media and the latest round in the chaos is exemplified by this round robin eMail:

From: Christopher Pain <chris.ukip@btinternet.com>

Subject: Save the Lincolnshire UKIP Six | Campaigns by You

Date: 16 November 2013 00:17:47 GMT

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Dear All, 

Please connect on the link below, this is an online petition to help six Lincolnshire county councillors, including myself regain our positions within the party.This will allow natural justice to be allowed and a full investigation into the circumstances surrounding it.

 Regards,

 Cllr Chris Pain

http://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/save-the-lincolnshire-ukip-six

I have set up a petition please sign and share

You will all have noted the dishonesty and lies of Derek Clark MEP & the fact that he was found guilty of defrauding the public purse and ordered to pay back a large sum of money by OLAF though it is unlikely he will go to prison for his offences in view of his advanced age, unlike Tom Wise MEP who was sent6enced to 2 years in prison over a similar sum of money he obtained fraudulently.You will of course have seen the exposure of the Farage cult by the disgruntled West Midlands MEP Mike Nattrass, when he failed to be selected to ride on the gravy train for UKIP again.Or Godfrey Bloom MEP who has been summarily & publicly dumped by Farage, though to be fair he still sits as a member of Farage’s extremist, racist and anti homosexual EFD Group in the EU parliament.Then we have the odious and ignorant Gerard Batten MEP who has clearly betrayed his electorate and the party to follow his personal agenda dabbling in Russian/Chechen politics (note the nationality of his staff!) and pursuing a clear policy of publishing and speaking to an agenda likely to incite racial hatred and unrest in support of his personal superstitions. All causes he is all too willing to lie to defend!

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In the midst of this debacle the cult leader is scheduled to have surgical attention to his spine as it is clearly damaged and causing notable pain CLICK HERE 

Obviously it would be all too easy to continue but perhaps you might care to read the 2.1/2 thousand postings on this web site where I have laid bare the facts with cross reference & supportive links in an effort to try to clean-up UKIP in the vain hope it can be made fit for purpose to perform its role as the natural leader of the Leave-The-EU movement – which sadly it has at this stage clearly betrayed.

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We are not alone in realising Farage’s UKIP is corrupted

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/11/2013

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    From winning their first ever 16 seats on Lincolnshire County Council in May, UKIP in Lincolnshire had to deal with racism allegations and suspensions, leading up to the party losing its official opposition status after six councillors split from the party in September. How did it get to this point? May 3, 2013: UKIP win their first 16 seats for councillors on Lincolnshire County Council in the local elections, as Conservatives lost overall control after winning just 36 seats and Labour won 12 seats. The turnout was just 29% county-wide. In Lincoln the turnout was even lower at 26%.

    May 9, 2013: Conservative County Council leader Martin Hill agrees on a coalition to maintain control with Liberal Democrats Reg Shore, John Marriot and Pat O’Connor, and Independents Chris Brewis, Bill Aron and Angela Newton.

    May 10, 2013: Chris Pain, UKIP’s East Midlands regional chairman and Wainfleet and Burgh councillor, is voted by fellow party members as the leader of UKIP on Lincolnshire County Council. He nominates Robin Hunter-Clarke and Victoria Ayling as his deputy leaders. UKIP become the second largest group on the council, the majority opposition.
    UKIP Councillor Chris Pain. Photo: Steve Smailes for The LincolniteUKIP Councillor Chris Pain. Photo: Steve Smailes for The Lincolnite

    May 11, 2013: Chris Pain confidently says he will stand for MP at the next general election for Boston and Skegness against Conservative MP Mark Simmonds, squashing rumours that UKIP leader Nigel Farage will stand there given the party’s success in the area.

    May 17, 2013: All 16 UKIP councillors refuse to sign an anti-racism declaration at the County Council annual meeting. The document is meant to ensure all Lincolnshire residents are treated equality and have access to the same services. The motion is passed by 60 other councillors.

    May 23, 2013: Lincolnshire Police begin investigating claims that racist comments were posted on the Facebook pages of UKIP Lincolnshire leader Chris Pain and two other UKIP councillors, Alan Jesson and Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright. All three strongly denied making the comments and Chris Pain said his account had been hacked. The issue was brought to police attention by someone from the County Council.

    June 4, 2013: Chris Pain is forced to step down from his East Midlands regional chairman role over the alleged racist comments posted on Facebook. UKIP’s National Executive Committee (NEC) said it was holding its judgement on until police complete their investigation. Chris Pain remains leader of the UKIP group on the County Council.

    June 12, 2013: Chris Pain insists sanctions imposed on him by UKIP are just a formality while he clears his name and says he submitted an application to stand as an MEP representing the party in next year’s European election.

    July 31, 2013: Chris Pain confirms his deputies Victoria Ayling and Robin Hunter-Clarke have been stripped of their roles in the party on the County Council. Councillor Ayling says “There are question marks over the process taken with this,” and that UKIP are investigating the matter. Tattershall Castle Councillor Colin Mair becomes the new deputy.
    UKIP Councillor Tiggs Keywood-WainwrightUKIP Councillor Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright

    September 5, 2013: Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright gains the Fenside seat for UKIP on Boston Borough Council with 162 votes. The by-election was called after English Democrats Councillor Eliott Fountain was ousted for not attending any council meetings for over six months.

    http://thelincolnite.co.uk/2013/09/t…olnshire-ukip/

    The bit in bold is where the trouble starts. I presume it is because the fascists that are the real power behind this country took a disliking to the UKIP taking a disliking to their “anti-racism” offensive (May 17). They tried to set Chris Pain up (May 23), but we can deduce that he managed to clear his name due to the allegations failing to stick. This must have been an embarrassment for the fascists so they presumably called on their man within the UKIP to deal with it. That man was Steve Crowther. The reason for the trouble in the first place was because the UKIP went against the grain.

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    This is also worth bearing in mind:

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    I was one of those that UKIP clearly “didn’t like” and “didn’t fit the mold” when i ran as a candidate in the CC elections in East Sussex last May… UKIP management’s cronies hacked in to my Facebook account (allegedly), created a ghost or clone account using my name, photograph and my email to access my main account… wrote a whole load of anti semitic rubbish in my name which no thanks to their useless press department, resulted in a nationwide indeed, world wide negative press campaign against me which has carried on over many months. The last publication that i am aware of, with negative comments related to myself was just a month ago in The Sunday Times! They deliberately tried to wreck my reputation and standing in the community and possibly make me a target of extremists who assumed (wrongly) that i am anti semitic and a crazed conspiracy theorist… they then, suspended me. It was a vicious, nasty, reckless and dangerous attempt to discredit me. It was a difficult time but, i weathered it and held my head high. I still ran in the CC Elections and indeed my colleague and i did incredibly well. Why? Because the local community and indeed UKIP branch members didn’t for one minute believe the negative publicity cooked up by these vicious but incredibly ambitious thugs within UKIP… Shameful. I have since resigned from UKIP and am convinced that UKIPs upper management were behind this witch hunt. There is no way that UKIP are committed to free speech or democracy. I believe they are just another right wing controlled opposition party who are supporting and abetting the establishment’s agenda. Some of grassroots remain in denial but, when the truth comes out and it will, they are in for an unpleasant awakening when they realise they have all been well and truly used.. and conned. There is no loyalty within UKIP, no respect and no thanks for hard work or loyal support by its members, candidates and councillors… in fact, from what i have witnessed first hand, grassroots are lucky to receive so much as the crumbs from management’s table.

    http://thelincolnite.co.uk/2013/09/t…olnshire-ukip/

    That’s not too “cool” either!

    It seems to me that the party is being hacked. We know that the fascists play dirty if they can’t win legitimately, and they must have seen that Chris Pain could have ended up as the UKIP MP for Lincolnshire. The fascists seem to use Facebook as their method of choice in their sting operations. They must have some sort of control in this. At a guess I would say it looks like some rogue elements within the British intelligence agency, which are obviously linked to the higher echelons of the British government. You see in a way this has come about by the UKIP being a victim of its success. It now represents a credible threat to the establishment. Unless the UKIP take this seriously they will end up like the BNP and become extinguished. You UKIPPers have the big boys on to you now. Good luck, as I think you will need it.

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    REDACTED as being gratuitously damaging to UKIP, without being constructive or contributory by one of the regular anonimised trolls on the site whose contributions are mostly sneering efforts to demean UKIP and undermine any efforts to accentuate its problems with the aim of cleaning-up the Farage controlled party to make it in any way fit for purpose and electable to principled people of integrity as the flagship of EUroScepticism.

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    REDACTED as being gratuitously damaging to UKIP, without being constructive or contributory by one of the regular anonimised trolls on the site whose contributions are mostly sneering efforts to demean UKIP and undermine any efforts to accentuate its problems with the aim of cleaning-up the Farage controlled party to make it in any way fit for purpose and electable to principled people of integrity as the flagship of EUroScepticism.

    In my opinion.
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    The destruction of Ukip from within is following a similar pattern to the destruction of the BNP from within. Even the personal smears are similar – faked Nazi salutes and anti-Semitic comments. This has a far reaching effect beyond just that on members and supporters as it discredits nationalists and patriots to the wider public and strengthens the state in their battle against the British people.

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    Here’s a bit more news from up that way.

    THE UK Independence Party is in meltdown in Worcestershire – with an entire group of activists sensationally quitting to form a breakaway group. West Midlands MEP Mike Nattras and Carl Humphries, UKIP’s best known organiser in Worcester, have teamed up to launch a new political party.

    Mr Humphries is a former Worcester city councillor and UKIP election candidate who has been working behind the scenes for years recruiting new party members.

    Mr Nattras, who quit UKIP last month after being deselected from next year’s European elections following rows with leader Nigel Farage, has launched ‘An Independence Party’.

    To add to the drama, two other UKIP activists resigned yesterday to join the new party – saying they were fed up with being “dictated to”.

    http://www.droitwichadvertiser.co.uk…y_is_launched/

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UKIP & Le Pen: The links & what they mean.

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There was an interesting moment on Sunday when Andrew Neil asked Paul Nuttall about alleged links with Marine Le Pen, leader of the French National Front.

Nuttall stated that he had never met her.

As recently as the early part of this year reports from Brussels referred to meetings between UKIP and Front Nationale figures to discuss the formation of a political group in the European Parliament after next May’s european elections. Godfrey Bloom, of course, was co-founder of the European Alliance for Freedom, a far-right pan-European political party. The photo shows the UKIP logo side by side with the EAF one.

This is from a statement issued by Front Nationale last year:

‘Marine Le Pen joined the European Alliance for Freedom last October. This pan-European platform was founded at the end of 2010 and despite its opposition to the European Union such as it is organised at present, has been recognised by the European Parliament. The members of this Alliance have come from the ranks of those movements engaged in the patriotic and sovereignty struggles of our time. They include for example the Austrian FPÖ of Heinz-Christian Strache, the British UKIP of Nigel Farage…”

Mme. Le Pen is in the ascendency, and is probably the most prominent populist politician in Europe. Farage is said to be seething about this.

Pan-European parties will be able to contest ‘virtual’ constituencies. To be top of the candidates list in one of these parties is a guarantee of a job for life, which is what Farage craves. He knows that a seat in Westminster will never be his, and a Tory peerage is dependent on his patrons toppling Cameron and replacing him with one of their own, David Davies, most likely.

However, The EAF is now very much Le Pen’s vehicle, and she is steering it well. The will be no political space for a second far-right party. Farage has missed the boat and he probably knows it.

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UKIP Cult in Disarray in Scotland, as ever!

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Ukip in Scotland thrown into chaos amid rumours of leadership coup

THE future of the UK Independence Party in Scotland has been thrown into turmoil with a civil war looming and a coup planned against its leader north of the Border.

Otto Inglis with Ukip leader Nigel Farage

Otto Inglis with Ukip leader Nigel Farage

Just months after claiming it was mobilising in Scotland with new branches being set up across the country and ahead of May’s European elections, the party has split into factions with an extraordinary general meeting called where three key office bearers face being ousted.

Several key members have submitted motions of no confidence against Otto Inglis, secretary of Ukip Scotland, and party treasurer Dr Jonathan Stanley.

They in turn have moved against the Eurosceptic party’s Scottish chairman Mike Scott-Hayward, amid claims internal structures are in disarray.

Ukip sources have accused Dr Stanley, 31, a part-time locum at English hospitals who came sixth in a recent Edinburgh Council by-election with 235 votes, and Mr Inglis, a qualified barrister, as being the prime movers in Ukip Scotland’s internal discord.

Mr Inglis was fifth in the recent Aberdeen Donside by-election, with 1128 votes, 4.83% of the poll.

One senior source said: “It’s an utter shambles. We’ve no organisation, Mike Scott-Hayward is nowhere to be seen, no-one’s heard from Christopher (Lord) Monckton (Ukip Scottish president) and it’s really not like any political party I’ve ever heard of.

“Communications disappear into a black hole, there’s brewing friction and internal politics has taken over. Every party has divisions but there’s no structures here to deal with it. It’s all very demoralising.”

The extraordinary meeting, planned for Stirling this month, will see candidates and leading members present views on the future of Ukip in Scotland.

In May, Mr Scott-Hayward, a former Tory councillor, said the party was experiencing a significant growth in membership in Scotland, leading to it reorganising and setting up new branches in Orkney, Moray, Lanarkshire, the Black Isle and the Borders.

Mr Scott-Hayward, an ex-army major and coastguard officer, said members of various other parties had joined Ukip. Some polls claimed their pre-summer support was as high as 9%.

Steve McKeane, a recent Ukip Parliamentary candidate is one of those behind the motions to oust Dr Stanley and Mr Inglis. He said: “These are internal party matters and will be discussed internally and those within the party will be made aware of results of those discussions in due course. I don’t see why people are trying to second guess what will happen.”

Another party source said: “There are a couple of people within the organisation who don’t like the way the system is run and organised. They’ve tried to move against the leadership earlier this year and failed.”

A Ukip Scotland spokesman said: “There’s an internal dispute and this is the opportunity to sort that so we can go forward as a united body going forward towards the European elections.”

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One has to wonder if this is just disgruntled Scots wanting an easy ride, as is sadly too often the case as they blame those south of the border for all their woes!The article totally overlooks the undeniable fact that the very same article could easily have been written about almost every area of UKIP politics in the whole of Britain.It all boils down to utter incompetence as a small clique seeks to feather its own nest with a claque of hopefulls and the easily beguiled braying support founded on little or no knowledge but a great deal of vicious cult propaganda.

Consider just how utterly centralised, authoritarian and corrupt UKIP is as it panders to any spec of support it can gain by opposing policies of anyone and any party but being unable to present even the most simple of costed policies, which are largely invented on the hoof by Nigel Farage without a wit of leadership ability but a very glib tongue.

Noting also how he has made a habit of rigging elections and placing his personally selected individuals in position within his cult as when:
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Few seem to realise that Nigel Farage is without leadership ability and thus rules the party rather than leads it, perpetually in fear of competence or professionalism as he peddles the myth of ‘man of the people’ and if his drink soddened ineptitude is rtedollent of the people little wonder there is such violence and division in society.

Yet, again and again, UKIP’s teflon hero gets away with his self serving posturing.

Don’t get me wrong, for one has to admire his ruthless self interest and the consumate veneer of cheeky chappie, behind which he has sqandered £Millions of public money on stunts to keep him in the limelight but it seems no one is able to identify a singyle notable achievement of UKIP that can not be shown to be self interest on behalf of a tiny clique, fed by the ambitions of a cowardly claque seeking rewards from the largesse of the gravy train they seek to ride.

Doubt me? Well start out by real;ising that in a term of office an MEP usually manages to walk away with approaching £1Million and as many wuill recall, in his second term Nigel Farage boasted, at a press lunch, of having made about £2Million. Now perhaps one understands whence came the £250K he deposited into his tax haven in the Isle of Man and his ability to dodge UK taxes via his Belgian bank account!

FARAGE, Nigel 41 SALARY STATEMENT Mar-2010Please do not get me wrong, I am not saying his hypocricy is unique. Many, if not most MEPs and UK EU staff act likewise! The prevalence of high cost restaurants, bars and bordellos surrounding the EU parlaiment and the idiotic Strasburg venue give testimony to just how much of our hard earned tax money is paid out in bribes by the EU for you cou8ld not for a moment pretend the income of those riding on the gravy train are earned in any true sense of the word.
As to the apparent ‘peculiar’ position of Scotland as enumerated in the article above, do not be misled into thinking this is not pertinent to UKIP right across these United Kingdoms.You need only to delve back into the archive to seesuch behaviour, again and again.
Consider the dishonesty of Nigel farage’s ‘Reichstag moment’ when he invented BNP connections as a desperate measure to remove Dr. David Abbott & Dr. Eric Edmond, as they tried to represent those who elected them to the NEC and introduce some semblance of democrtic principles and accountability for the 100s of £1,000s that UKIP seemed unwilling to account for.Perhaps you remember Richard Suchorzevski’s, chairman of UKIP Wales, letter seeking clarity as to where large sums of money had vanished (many believed trousered by the clique) when he was elected to the NEC to introduce probity.
And his subsequent letter of resignation enumerating his opprobrium CLICK HERE
Or even the letter of resignation of the past UKIP Wales Chairman, Cheltenham Branch Chairman and UKIP Office Manager CLICK HERE
Or the letter exposing Farage’s behaviour by the past chairman of the party, MEP & deputy leader CLICK HEREOr the very detailed letter of a long term conctituency branch activist, particularly when you study the links provided, CLICK HERE

May I suggest a reading, in some detail, of the many facts and views on the subject proffered on the eminent and excellently researched blog of Dr. Richard North who all to clearly saw through the sham and tyhe shambolic ineptitude of Farage and his cult CLICK HERE

Or perhaps you would care for details from yet another insider and associate of Nigel Farage’s who I understand currently works for Prof. Tim Congdon (who tends to damn Farage with feint praise!) CLICK HERE

Clearly there is a great deal more verified and corroborated evidence on which I found my various revelations, made in the somewhat vain hope that UKIP can even at this late stage be cleaned up and made fit for purpose as the flag ship of the EUroSceptic movement rather than endlessly grovelling in the gutter!

It may be seen by the uninformed as the flagship but sadly long ago it fell into the hands of bounty hunters, brigands and nerre do wells who have all but destroyed it removing the reliable and honest activists amongst the crew and placing self seeking and ignorant lakeys in position to guard the personal interests of the utterly corrupt inner claque now on the bridge.

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Robin Tilbrook Further Demeans HIS EDP Cult

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has been bleating on his blog at having his extremist and divisive followers in the EDP branded as extremists!:

Friday, 27 September 2013


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One of the “interesting” issues that arose over the on/off affair of Mike Nattrass was that the UKIP defector, Nikki Sinclaire MEP, issued a press release and blog item attacking the English Democrats in wild and hysterically vitriolic terms.   Edited highlights of this rant include the bizarre claims that the English Democrats are “extremist” and “now contain and tolerate some of the most undesirable and disgusting people in our society” and “who seem on intent on enlarging themselves primarily first and foremost regardless of normal and social acceptability”!
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My comment, which may or may not be published on his blog, where comment is invited, is as follows:

Hi,

 

the EDP draws on its roots of revivifying Robin Tilbrook’s The English National Party of the 1960s.

 

Face the facts – many consider it extremist to actively campaign & support these United Kingdoms being broken up, be that by Nazi Germany in 1939 or the foolish self serving political antics of Palid, Mabion Kernow, EDP or SNP.

 

That the EDP willingly compounds this by taking on high profile ex BNP members exacerbates their problem of being seen as extremists.

 

Robin Tilbrook unfortunately has a track record of damaging his own fan club with rants and vitriolic attacks as we see in his own entry on Wiki:

‘However, Davies announced his resignation from the party on 5 February 2013 citing “a big influx of new members joining from the British National Party”.[10] One of its councillors, Mick Glynn, resigned the following day after the party’s chairman, Robin Tilbrook,[11] launched a personal attack on Peter Davies reducing its number of elected representatives to two.’

 

Yet again the mouse that roared has emerged with a vitriolic ad hominem rant when his doomed plans to embrace the shambolic and politically challenged Mike Nattrass to try to boost his chances for growth predictably failed.

 

How foolish to have broken confidence and published early negotiations with Sinclaire, showing his political ineptitude and untrustworthy nature – as with the broadcasting of the details of his negotiations with the foolish Mike Nattrass when he failed to capture his support.

 

Pray tell – in his political campaigning since the 1960s spanning 6 decades wjhat has Tilbrook achieved and what signs of leadership have presented – leadership is more than betrayal of trust and ill cobnsidered ad hominem attacks!

 

Perhaps if the EDP is to continue on its extremist and damaging path ity may be time to find a leader of some competence and substance!

 

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here in passing is the private correspondence between Mike Nattrass & Robin Tilbrook’s EDP which they spread widely including to the media when Robin Tilbrook’s efforts to piggy back on Mike Nattrass’ position as an MEP came to nought.

To ensure I was not in breech of confidence, having received the material from an executive of the EDP, I obtain verbal confirmation from an executive of the EDP that I could publish the material they had circulated:

——– Original message ——–
From: Steven Uncles <stevenuncles@engdem.org>
Date: 19/09/2013 16:54 (GMT+00:00)
To: P Nicholas Watson BBC <nicholas.watson@bbc.co.uk>
Subject: Fwd: re DRAFT from MIKE
Steve Uncles

Area Chairman – South East England

English Democrats

Not Left, Not Right; Just English! 

 

Mobile: 07931 390029

Email: SteveUncles@EngDem.org

——– Original message ——–
From: Steven Uncles <stevenuncles@engdem.org>
Date: 19/09/2013 16:24 (GMT+00:00)
To: daniel.wainwright@expressandstar.co.uk
Subject: Fwd: re DRAFT from MIKE

Earlier Draft

 

 

Steve Uncles

Area Chairman – South East England

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Email: SteveUncles@EngDem.org

——– Original message ——–
From: mike nattrass <ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: 18/09/2013 19:25 (GMT+00:00)
To: Derek Hilling <derekhilling@gmail.com>,”RobinTilbrook@aol.com” <robintilbrook@aol.com>
Cc: davidlane@engdem.org,STEVEN UNCLES <stevenuncles@engdem.org>
Subject: RE: re DRAFT from MIKE

SORRY I DID NOT SPOT UKIP BEING ADVERTISED IN THE HEADLINE …ignore the fraud riddled rascals.

 

Also small changes towards the end to let it flow.

 

Mike

 

 


 

 

EMBARGOED UNTIL 00:01 a.m. Friday, 20th September 2013

BREAKING NEWS – MEP, MIKE NATTRASS MOVES TO THE ENGLISH DEMOCRATS

 

West Midlands MEP Mike Nattrass has announced that he wishes to join the English Democratic Party, the only party that wants England to be independent of the EU. 



Mike Nattrass will be standing as the English Democrats’ Lead Candidate for the EU Parliament election on the 22nd May 2014, with supporting positions taken by Derek Hilling, Party Secretary and David Lane, West Midlands Chairman.

 

The English Democrats are delighted to welcome Mike Nattrass as a member of the party and as our first English Democrat MEP.  



Mike joined the English Democrats because no other party stands firm and believes in the protection of  English interests.

 

Robin Tilbrook, the English Democrats Party Chairman, said:-  “I am delighted to welcome Mike Nattrass as a member of the English Democrats and look forward to getting him re-elected again as an English Democrat MEP, on 22nd May 2014.  



“Over the coming year Scottish Independence will be in focus as they face the Scottish Independence referendum.  The English Democrats are England’s equivalent to that Party and our conference will debate further one of our key policy proposals, Independence for England.”

 

Robin continued:- “The EU Justice Commissioner has already confirmed that when England becomes independent it will not remain within the EU and would “have to re-join”!  

As our policy is that “We will not wish to rejoin!”  this will appeal to all those wishing to see England escape, out of the EU!”



Mike Nattrass MEP responded by saying “England is my home and The English Democrats are my Party. The policy of not applying to rejoin the EU is English music to my ears”



Robin Tilbrook

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The English Democrats,

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The English Democrats launched in 2002. The English Democrats are the English nationalist Party which campaigns for a Parliament for England, First Minister and Government, with at least the same powers as the Scottish ones within a Federal UK; for St George’s Day to be England’s National holiday; for Jerusalem to be England’s National Anthem; for a Referendum to leave the EU; for an end to mass immigration; for the Cross of St George to be flown on all public buildings in England.

The English Democrats are England’s answer to the Scottish National Party and Plaid Cymru. The English Democrats’ greatest electoral successes to date include winning the Directly Elected Executive Mayoralty of Doncaster Metropolitan Borough Council and the 2012 referendum; We won the referendum which triggered a referendum to give Salford City an Elected Mayor; In 2012 we saved all our deposits in the Police Commissioner elections and came second in South Yorkshire; In the 2009 EU election we gained 279,801 votes after a total EU campaign spend of less than £25,000 (giving the English Democrats by far the most cost efficient electoral result of any serious Party in the UK)


CC: ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk; davidlane@engdem.org; stevenuncles@engdem.org
From: derekhilling@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Mike Nattrass Proposal to the English Democrats
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:09:56 +0200
To: RobinTilbrook@aol.com

Robin, I think the first sentence is too long and not sufficiently ‘snappy’. We need to get their attention immediately. Other than that, it is good. 

Regards,

Derek

Sent from my iPhone


On 18 Sep 2013, at 18:08, RobinTilbrook@aol.com wrote:

Dear Mike, David, Steve and Derek

 

Please see below the press release to read, amend or approve.

 

Regards

 

Robin

 

EMBARGOED UNTIL 00:01 a.m. Friday, 20th September 2013

BREAKING NEWS – UKIP MEP, MIKE NATTRASS MOVES TO THE ENGLISH DEMOCRATS

 

UKIP’s only remaining West Midlands MEP has announced that he is moving from UKIP, partly in disgust at Nigel Farage’s corruption of the UKIP’s selection processes and also because Mike Nattrass wants to be part of the only genuine English Nationalist Party that wants England to be independent of the EU.  Mike Nattrass will be standing as the English Democrats’ Lead Candidate for the EU Parliament election on the 22nd May 2014, with supporting positions taken by Derek Hilling, our Party Secretary and David Lane, our West Midlands Chairman.

 

The English Democrats are delighted to welcome Mike Nattrass as a member of the English Democrats and as our first English Democrat MEP.  Mike’s move to join us is partly as a result of UKIP’s obsessive focus on the United Kingdom and the exclusion of any genuine interest in English interests.

 

Robin Tilbrook, the English Democrats Party Chairman, said:-  “I am delighted to welcome Mike Nattrass as a member of the English Democrats and look forward to working with him to get him re-elected this time as an English Democrats MEP, in May 2014.  Over the coming year I am fully expecting the question of Scottish Independence to become of increasing interest as we build up to the Scottish Independence referendum.  The English Democrats are England’s equivalent to the Scottish Nationalist Party and the only party that is a genuine English nationalist party.  At our conference one of the key proposals is the adoption of a keynote policy of Independence for England.”

 

Robin continued:- “Interestingly if England becomes independent the EU Justice Commissioner has already confirmed that any newly independent nation will automatically be outside of the EU, claiming that they would “have to re-join”!  Our policy of Independence for England will therefore appeal to all those who want England to leave the EU!”

 

Robin Tilbrook

Chairman,

The English Democrats,

Quires Green, Willingale, Ongar, Essex, CM5 0QP

Tel: 01277 896000

Fax: 01277 896050

Mobile : 07778 553395

Blog: http://robintilbrook.blogspot.co.uk/

FaceBook Profile: http://www.facebook.com/robin.tilbrook

Party Tel: 0207 242 1066

Twitter: @RobinTilbrook

Party Website: www.englishdemocrats.org

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Key facts about the English Democrats

The English Democrats launched in 2002. The English Democrats are the English nationalist Party which campaigns for a Parliament for England, First Minister and Government, with at least the same powers as the Scottish ones within a Federal UK; for St George’s Day to be England’s National holiday; for Jerusalem to be England’s National Anthem; for a Referendum to leave the EU; for an end to mass immigration; for the Cross of St George to be flown on all public buildings in England.

The English Democrats are England’s answer to the Scottish National Party and Plaid Cymru. The English Democrats’ greatest electoral successes to date include winning the Directly Elected Executive Mayoralty of Doncaster Metropolitan Borough Council and the 2012 referendum; We won the referendum which triggered a referendum to give Salford City an Elected Mayor; In 2012 we saved all our deposits in the Police Commissioner elections and came second in South Yorkshire; In the 2009 EU election we gained 279,801 votes after a total EU campaign spend of less than £25,000 (giving the English Democrats by far the most cost efficient electoral result of any serious Party in the UK)

 

In a message dated 18/09/2013 08:04:19 GMT Daylight Time, ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk writes:

Sorry Derek but I got the impression, from your email, that you needed to see me.

 

But you did say “after the Conference” and so be it.

 

No problem and we will meet again anyway on Friday pm.

 

Mike

 


CC: davidlane@engdem.org; robintilbrook@aol.com; stevenuncles@engdem.org
From: derekhilling@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Mike Nattrass Proposal to the English Democrats
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:47:30 +0200
To: ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk

Hello Mike,

 

I’m sorry but I won’t be flying back into Birmingham until Friday afternoon, I have work meetings in the morning. 

Is there something urgent that needs to happen before the NC? I had not got this impression from previous communications. I would prefer to set aside time next week for a full discussion.

 

Regards,

Derek

Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Sep 2013, at 17:41, mike nattrass <ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Derek,

 

No problem at all, but can we meet Friday morning?

 

Mike


CC: davidlane@engdem.org; robintilbrook@aol.com; stevenuncles@engdem.org
From: derekhilling@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Mike Nattrass Proposal to the English Democrats
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:32:25 +0100
To: ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk

Hello Mike, 

I am currently in Birmingham airport waiting for a flight to Amsterdam. The trip is only for work I’m afraid, I don’t think I shall be partaking of any of the local delights! 

I’m back on Friday so let’s have a chat before the meeting and arrange something convenient for us all, perhaps next week. It seems like we are all a bit pre-occupied this week.

 

Regards,

Derek

Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Sep 2013, at 14:48, mike nattrass <ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Thanks Derek,

 

If you need to talk before Friday we can meet Wednesday pm or Thursday pm or Friday morning.

 

I am only too happy for the three of us to work on a campaign. 

 

it is just that I am fighting back at present and time has been my problem. I did an interview for ITV yesterday in Brussels but as yet I cannot mention the English Democrats.

 

IF we all agree, that bombshell will hit on Saturday.

 

When shall we meet?

 

Mike

 


Subject: Re: Mike Nattrass Proposal to the English Democrats
From: derekhilling@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:54:07 +0100
CC: stevenuncles@engdem.org; davidlane@engdem.org; robintilbrook@engdem.org
To: ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk

Mike,

 

I appreciate your reluctance with FaceBook and Twitter and I would not want you to undertake any campaigning activity that you are not comfortable with. That was not where I was coming from.

 

I simply want you, David and I to work out a ‘modus operandi’ but this does not necessarily have to be done on Friday evening. I hope you would agree that it will be better in the long term to know where we all stand.

 

See you Friday!

 

regards,

Derek

 

 

 

On 16 Sep 2013, at 10:08, mike nattrass wrote:

 

Derek,

CONFIDENTIAL

Good to hear from you and you can call or email anytime.

However I am not sure which aspect you are meaning, because you have not missed anything.

Any agreement, for example is still in draft and the last thing we need are many draft agreements flying about and being commented upon, when they are all incorrect and conflict with EU rules!
My first reply to that agreement was yesterday when I tried to point out that EU rules are paramount in budget planning etc.
Any agreement which supposes otherwise, and gets out, would make page one of The Guardian! The less emails the better.

We need a concluding meeting on Friday …evening? But only if you and I are happy and the members want me to join.

I have never thought that you had no plan, but the emails have not been about a plan and no plan has been discussed. I have not mentioned any plan and certainly not made a comment about a plan. 

David has had an email from me about 4 ex BNP members and I await that reply. I need to know the facts to defend because I will be under attack. Already Nikki Sinclaire, UKIP and another have send me lists of so called undesirables taken in from the BNP. A myth that I need to strongly counter!!

I REFUSE POINT BLANK TO GO ONTO FACEBOOK OR TWITTER and I have to say that this is a prime condition of any further progress.
Facebook has lost UKIP two seats and caused major problems (I blame it for the heart attack and death of a UKIP Councillor). The two worst problems I have with your party are two facebook entries. One a Holocaust Denial from a member and another about Thalidomide victims. If you cannot see the damage look again. I am still waiting a rely from David (who I can see is a good chap)

I am in Brussels today and speaking at Probus, Droitwich tomorrow and the tread mill never stops.

You have not been out of any loop and nothing has yet been concluded without you.

Good luck.

Mike.
 


Subject: Re: Mike Nattrass Proposal to the English Democrats
From: derekhilling@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:48:26 +0100
CC: derekhilling@engdem.org; DavidLane@EngDem.org; robintilbrook@engdem.org
To: StevenUncles@EngDem.org; ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk

Dear Mike,

 

If you would be so good as to include myself and David Lane in any future correspondence regarding arrangements with the English Democrats, I think this will foster a better working relationship. Ultimately it is David and myself that you will have to deal with on a day-to-day basis, not Steve. 

 

As I have previously stated myself and David would like to meet with you, after our conference this weekend, to work-out an agreement for the coming months and years. We certainly do have a plan whatever you may have thought previously.

 

I look forward to a suggested date for such a meeting, or perhaps we can discuss this when we meet on Friday. 

 

regards,

 

Derek Hilling

National Secretary &

East Midlands Area Chairman

 

English Democrats

Not Right Not Left For England!

 

 

 

On 15 Sep 2013, at 21:49, StevenUncles wrote:

 

Dear Mike

 

Thanks for this – we appear to be broadly in agreement, but no doubt Derek Hilling and David Lane will wish to add a few further details, especially relating to the 2014 Campaign and working together in the West Midlands.

 

Robin as you are aware is a Solicitor so the final version I suggest is produced by Robin Tilbrook, I hope this is OK ?

 

Derek Hilling (National Party Secretary) will confirm the arrangements for Friday Evening at the Leicester Hilton.

 

Kind regards

 

 

Steve Uncles

2014 EU Elections Prospective Candidate

South East England

English Democrats

 

Head Office:  0207 242 1066

Direct:            01322  225995

Mobile:          07931  390029

 

From: mike nattrass [mailto:ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2013 20:50
To: Steven Uncles
Cc: robintilbrook@aol.com
Subject: RE: Mike N

Another version that was circulated was:

——– Original message ——–
From: Steven Uncles <stevenuncles@engdem.org>
Date: 19/09/2013 16:28 (GMT+00:00)
To: daniel.wainwright@expressandstar.co.uk
Subject: Fwd: Mike Nattrass Proposal to the English Democrats

See the start of the thread is a proposal to the English Democrats FROM Mike Nattrass. ……

Steve Uncles
Area Chairman – South East England
English Democrats
Not Left, Not Right; Just English!

Mobile: 07931 390029
Email: SteveUncles@EngDem.org

——– Original message ——–
From: Derek Hilling <derekhilling@gmail.com>
Date: 17/09/2013 13:10 (GMT+00:00)
To: mike nattrass <ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk>
Cc: STEVEN UNCLES <stevenuncles@engdem.org>,”DavidLane@EngDem.org Lane” <davidlane@engdem.org>,Robin Tilbrook <robintilbrook@engdem.org>
Subject: Re: Mike Nattrass Proposal to the English Democrats

Mike,

I appreciate your reluctance with FaceBook and Twitter and I would not want you to undertake any campaigning activity that you are not comfortable with. That was not where I was coming from.

I simply want you, David and I to work out a ‘modus operandi’ but this does not necessarily have to be done on Friday evening. I hope you would agree that it will be better in the long term to know where we all stand.

See you Friday!

regards,
Derek

On 16 Sep 2013, at 10:08, mike nattrass wrote:

Derek,
 
CONFIDENTIAL
 
Good to hear from you and you can call or email anytime.
 
However I am not sure which aspect you are meaning, because you have not missed anything.
 
Any agreement, for example is still in draft and the last thing we need are many draft agreements flying about and being commented upon, when they are all incorrect and conflict with EU rules!
My first reply to that agreement was yesterday when I tried to point out that EU rules are paramount in budget planning etc.
Any agreement which supposes otherwise, and gets out, would make page one of The Guardian! The less emails the better.
 
We need a concluding meeting on Friday …evening? But only if you and I are happy and the members want me to join.
 
I have never thought that you had no plan, but the emails have not been about a plan and no plan has been discussed. I have not mentioned any plan and certainly not made a comment about a plan.
 
David has had an email from me about 4 ex BNP members and I await that reply. I need to know the facts to defend because I will be under attack. Already Nikki Sinclaire, UKIP and another have send me lists of so called undesirables taken in from the BNP. A myth that I need to strongly counter!!
 
I REFUSE POINT BLANK TO GO ONTO FACEBOOK OR TWITTER and I have to say that this is a prime condition of any further progress.
Facebook has lost UKIP two seats and caused major problems (I blame it for the heart attack and death of a UKIP Councillor). The two worst problems I have with your party are two facebook entries. One a Holocaust Denial from a member and another about Thalidomide victims. If you cannot see the damage look again. I am still waiting a rely from David (who I can see is a good chap)
 
I am in Brussels today and speaking at Probus, Droitwich tomorrow and the tread mill never stops.
 
You have not been out of any loop and nothing has yet been concluded without you.
 
Good luck.
 
Mike.
 
 
Subject: Re: Mike Nattrass Proposal to the English Democrats
From: derekhilling@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:48:26 +0100
CC: derekhilling@engdem.org; DavidLane@EngDem.org; robintilbrook@engdem.org
To: StevenUncles@EngDem.org; ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk

Dear Mike,

If you would be so good as to include myself and David Lane in any future correspondence regarding arrangements with the English Democrats, I think this will foster a better working relationship. Ultimately it is David and myself that you will have to deal with on a day-to-day basis, not Steve.

As I have previously stated myself and David would like to meet with you, after our conference this weekend, to work-out an agreement for the coming months and years. We certainly do have a plan whatever you may have thought previously.

I look forward to a suggested date for such a meeting, or perhaps we can discuss this when we meet on Friday.

regards,

Derek Hilling
National Secretary &
East Midlands Area Chairman
 
English Democrats
Not Right Not Left For England!

On 15 Sep 2013, at 21:49, StevenUncles wrote:

Dear Mike
 
Thanks for this – we appear to be broadly in agreement, but no doubt Derek Hilling and David Lane will wish to add a few further details, especially relating to the 2014 Campaign and working together in the West Midlands.
 
Robin as you are aware is a Solicitor so the final version I suggest is produced by Robin Tilbrook, I hope this is OK ?
 
Derek Hilling (National Party Secretary) will confirm the arrangements for Friday Evening at the Leicester Hilton.
 
Kind regards
 
 
Steve Uncles
2014 EU Elections Prospective Candidate
South East England
English Democrats
 
Head Office:  0207 242 1066
Direct:            01322  225995
Mobile:          07931  390029
 
From: mike nattrass [mailto:ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk]
Sent: 15 September 2013 20:50
To: Steven Uncles
Cc: robintilbrook@aol.com
Subject: RE: Mike Nattress Proposal to the English Democrats
 

DRAFT ……………
SUBJECT TO OUR MEETING ON 20th SEPT 2013.
 
 
1/ I will become an English Democrat MEP transferring from UKIP on 21 September 2013 – and recognise the opportunity to raise the profile of the English Democrats through the expected press attention, and would indeed encourage current UKIP members from all over England to join the English Democrats.
 
2/ The EU Communications budget and other MEP EU budgets are subject to tight EU rules and the English Democrats will not attempt to influence the MEP in breaking any of those rules.
 
EU money cannot for example be expended in The West Midlands Election Campaign and this is understood.
 
I will provide the £5000 deposit and recover it when refunded.
I will fund raise for my campaign and consult with yourselves throughout.
 
The 7 staff currently employed are dealing with constituency issues and whilst they gain good publicity for the MEP in solving constituency issues they are not for example a Campaign Team.
 
3/ I wish to head the West Midlands English Democrats Party List (Lead Candidate 2014 West Midlands) and serve as an MEP for 1 year if elected.
 
IN THE EVENT OF MY ELECTION AS AN MEP IN 2014……………….
 
4/ I would employ Derek Hilling for one year from 1st September 2014 as part of my EU Staff if elected at £40,000 per year. (If he is not elected in the No 2 Slot)
 
5/ After one year I will step down on 1st September 2015 as the MEP for the West Midlands, and transfer to Derek Hilling
 
6/  At 1st September 2015 I will be employed by Derek Hilling MEP as part of his EU Staff for 2 years at £40,000 per year.
 
7/ Derek Hilling will continue to pay the rent at the regional office at 48 Fentham Road, Hampton in Arden B92 0AYoffice for the 5 year term operating until 2019.
 
8/ Derek Hilling MEP will take over and respect any existing staff contracts.
 
9 / I undertake to leave the position of MEP on 1st Sept 2015 and if Derek Hilling, for any reason, cannot take over the post of MEP then another person will be selected by the Leadership of the English Democrats and all of the above conditions will apply by the substitution of their name for that of Derek Hilling.
 
10/ I am willing to sign a legal document to confirm an agreement reached.
 
 
 
To confirm …office address is:-
48 FENTHAM ROAD
HAMPTON IN ARDEN
B92 0AY
 
 
 
 
 
Steve Uncles
2014 EU Elections Prospective Candidate
South East England
English Democrats
 
Head Office:  0207 242 1066
Direct:            01322  225995
Mobile:          07931  390029
 
From: mike nattrass [mailto:ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk]
Sent: 31 August 2013 17:14
To: Steven Uncles
Subject: RE: Meeting up with the English Democrats on Saturday 7 September in Hampton Arden
 
This is all confidential and “IF”
 
Derek has now replied while riding a bicycle and I am uncertain that he will commit to running the Region in the way I suggest.
 
The reality of actually winning or the planning of what to do if he is elected may not appear relevant to him. He wants to stand up for his country but I think he doubts if he can win…… otherwise he would have a plan
 
If I am to do this for him I need to know that he will take over my office and the deal I was going to put to him I have held back, because I can see that he will not think it through.
 
Members and branches will follow me and obviously my office staff stay with me until July 2014.
 
We need to talk and i will explain.
 
Mike
 
 
From: stevenuncles@hotmail.com
To: ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk
CC: derekhilling@engdem.org; RobinTilbrook@aol.com
Subject: RE: Meeting up with the English Democrats on Saturday 7 September in Hampton Arden
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:50:00 +0100
Dear Mike
 
Sounds like a plan, naturally our discussions are confidential.
 
I will ask Derek Hilling to make direct contact with you. (No1 in West Midlands) by phone to discuss “Plan” for West Midlands.
 
Derek is on Home Number 01536 515921  Mobile – 07973 625922
 
And we could all  be with you next Saturday 7 September for 12 Noon at your office inHampton in Arden
 
Robin Tilbrook – National Party Chairman
Derek Hilling – National Party Secretary
Steve Uncles – South East Area Chairman
 
 
Kind regards
 
 
 
Steve Uncles
2014 EU Elections Prospective Candidate
South East England
English Democrats
 
Head Office:  0207 242 1066
Direct:            01322  225995
Mobile:          07931  390029
 
From: mike nattrass [mailto:ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk]
Sent: 31 August 2013 13:24
To: Steven Uncles
Subject: RE: Meeting up with the English Democrats ?
 
Steve,
 
Thank you for the direct reply and I would like to give you my thoughts honestly and without commitment either way at this stage.
 
On evening of 6th I will be in Worcester talking to a Chairman who backed me and got 400 UKIP members and some branches to back me …. I would throw the suggestion to him!!
 
A meeting with you anytime on 7th is good. I live in Sutton Coldfield but you may prefer to see the office at Hampton.
Birmingham International is 3 miles and Hampton in Arden has a station.
 
IF I joined your team I would become an English Democrat MEP with immediate effect. I am in Strasbourg on Monday 9th and could do it then.
 
I am getting lots of positive press in the West Midlands and I think if I run for you in 2014 I would do well. Reporters know me and my office base would not change.
 
At this point I would need to make friends with the current number one. Because I have a plan which would work to his advantage ………….. will explain later.
 
As for 2015 …… Skipton and Ripon would be my seat please!
 
ALL ‘IF’ but you can see that I trust you and like the plan.
 
Mike
 
MIKE NATTRASS MEP
 
07770 538538
 
This was written at speed cos I need to rush out ….. sorry for any error. Will dicuss “plan” on phone.
 
 
From: stevenuncles@hotmail.com
To: ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk
CC: derekhilling@engdem.org; RobinTilbrook@aol.com
Subject: Meeting up with the English Democrats ?
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:24:21 +0100
Dear Mike
 
A am a soft Southerner, but I do have a reputation for straight talking !
 
In  response to your questions.
 
1/  As an English Nationalist Party and we are against the EU, we Contest the 9 English EU Regions – and will be doing so in 2014, this qualifies the English Democrats for a Party Political Broadcast.
 
2/ My valued colleague and long standing party member and activist Derek Hilling (National Party Secretary) has already been recommended by the West Midlands Area Council to stand as the lead candidate in the West Midlands, this had been officially confirmed by our National Council, and will be announced on 21 September 2013 at our National Party Conference in Leicester on 21 September, along with the other 7 lead EU Candidates (excluding London where no selection has yet been made).
 
3/ We have met a couple of times, and you indeed kindly spoke at our English Democrats Conference a few years ago with Nikki Sinclaire, there were no personality problems from an English Democrats point of view, with either yourself or Nikki, and we would welcome your support.
 
4/ Nigel Farage – we are well aware of the antics of Nigel Farage- and the fact that he does not run UKIP along democratic lines, but considers UKIP  to be his  own private domain, there appear to be many UKIP members now unhappy about the UKIP Selection process.  The English Democrats have been victims of “double dealing” from Nigel Farage in the past.
 
5/ If your support of the English Democrats goes as far as wanting to stand for the English Democrats, then the current possibilities in the English Democrats for the 2014 EU Elections Candidates (subject to our selection process)  are therefore realistically either Lead candidate in London, or 2nd Spot in any other EU Region including the West Midlands standing for the English Democrats – you may like to also think about Yorkshire, as I know you are a Yorkshireman. (Again this would be subject to our Yorkshire Team and our selection process).
 
6/ Politics is a nasty game, but as we would also  be happy to land a blow on Nigel Farage, a defection of a sitting UKIP MEP to the English Democrats announced the week before BOTH conferences in 2013 would be a great first move in the 2014 EU Campaign, and would raise the profile of the English Democrats – the BBC would lap it up.
 
7/ Although time is short, then I believe we have time to sort out a mutually convenient arrangement, that follows the English Democrats procedures before Monday 16 September 2013.
 
Current English Democrats  Manifesto:-http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/policies-full-manifesto.html
 
If you are still interested in meeting, then two or three of us would be delighted to visit you next week in Hampton in Arden, probably early evening.
 
The most likely date is the 7th September 2013 for a meeting or after the 9th.
 
Proabably best to confirm meeting arrangements by telephone.
 
Kind regards
 
 
 
Steve Uncles
2014 EU Elections Prospective Candidate
South East England
English Democrats
 
Head Office:  0207 242 1066
Direct:            01322  225995
Mobile:          07931  390029
 
From: mike nattrass [mailto:ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk]
Sent: 31 August 2013 08:21
To: Steven Uncles
Subject: RE: MIKE NATTRASS MEP
 
Steve,
 
Being a Northerner I come to the point.
 
How many regions will you contest at the European elections please?
 
Who is your lead candidate for West Midlands please?
 
I am in the mood to help you, we have met and you impress me and providing we agree on policy (I need to just check) the publicity would be dynamic.
 
I have worked hard and done nothing wrong in UKIP. My personal following is very good (because I say it as it is, smile and insult everyone equally) My press contacts are very large.
 
My crime against Nigel was to point at racists in the EFD Group (not even the party). I wrote to the UKIP NEC and said that we should not associate with them. But Nigel needed the numbers, to keep the leadership of the group so I was not popular.
 
However what I had warned about then happened. Mario (Italian) who I had warned about, endorsed the views of the Norwegian mass murderer (giving Nigel more than a frown) and then racially abused a Black Italian Government Minister ….. final straw Nigel sacked him. SO THEY SAY I WAS NOT LOYAL TO THE PARTY! Sorry, no, just trying to protect the UKIP name from racists.
 
I look forward to talking.
 
Mike
 
Steve,
 
Yes, it may be worth having a chat.
 
I am back in the UK late on 5th and in my office at Hampton in Arden on 6th.
On 9th I will be in Strasbourg voting NO.
 
Can we meet 6th, 7th or 8th?
 
Where are you based?
 
Why not!
 
Mike
 
 
From: stevenuncles@hotmail.com
To: ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk
CC: RobinTilbrook@aol.com; derekhilling@engdem.org
Subject: MIKE NATTRASS MEP
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 20:27:18 +0100
Dear Mike
 
I hope you are well.
 
I was sorry to see that you have not been selected by UKIP to stand in the 2014 EU Elections.
 
I was just  wondering as to whether it may be worth having a chat ?
 
Kind regards

Yet another version as circulated follows:

——– Original message ——–
From: Steven Uncles <stevenuncles@engdem.org>
Date: 19/09/2013 16:54 (GMT+00:00)
To: P Nicholas Watson BBC <nicholas.watson@bbc.co.uk>
Subject: Fwd: re DRAFT from MIKE Steve Uncles
Area Chairman – South East England
English Democrats
Not Left, Not Right; Just English!

Mobile: 07931 390029
Email: SteveUncles@EngDem.org

——– Original message ——–
From: Steven Uncles <stevenuncles@engdem.org>
Date: 19/09/2013 16:24 (GMT+00:00)
To: daniel.wainwright@expressandstar.co.uk
Subject: Fwd: re DRAFT from MIKE

Earlier Draft

Steve Uncles
Area Chairman – South East England
English Democrats
Not Left, Not Right; Just English!

Mobile: 07931 390029
Email: SteveUncles@EngDem.org

——– Original message ——–
From: mike nattrass <ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: 18/09/2013 19:25 (GMT+00:00)
To: Derek Hilling <derekhilling@gmail.com>,”RobinTilbrook@aol.com” <robintilbrook@aol.com>
Cc: davidlane@engdem.org,STEVEN UNCLES <stevenuncles@engdem.org>
Subject: RE: re DRAFT from MIKE

SORRY I DID NOT SPOT UKIP BEING ADVERTISED IN THE HEADLINE …ignore the fraud riddled rascals.

Also small changes towards the end to let it flow.

Mike

 

EMBARGOED UNTIL 00:01 a.m. Friday, 20th September 2013
BREAKING NEWS – MEP, MIKE NATTRASS MOVES TO THE ENGLISH DEMOCRATS
 
West Midlands MEP Mike Nattrass has announced that he wishes to join the English Democratic Party, the only party that wants England to be independent of the EU.

Mike Nattrass will be standing as the English Democrats’ Lead Candidate for the EU Parliament election on the 22nd May 2014, with supporting positions taken by Derek Hilling, Party Secretary and David Lane, West Midlands Chairman.
 
The English Democrats are delighted to welcome Mike Nattrass as a member of the party and as our first English Democrat MEP. 

Mike joined the English Democrats because no other party stands firm and believes in the protection of  English interests.
 
Robin Tilbrook, the English Democrats Party Chairman, said:-  “I am delighted to welcome Mike Nattrass as a member of the English Democrats and look forward to getting him re-elected again as an English Democrat MEP, on 22nd May 2014. 

“Over the coming year Scottish Independence will be in focus as they face the Scottish Independence referendum.  The English Democrats are England’s equivalent to that Party and our conference will debate further one of our key policy proposals, Independence for England.”
 
Robin continued:- “The EU Justice Commissioner has already confirmed that when England becomes independent it will not remain within the EU and would “have to re-join”!  

As our policy is that “We will not wish to rejoin!”  this will appeal to all those wishing to see England escape, out of the EU!”

Mike Nattrass MEP responded by saying “England is my home and The English Democrats are my Party. The policy of not applying to rejoin the EU is English music to my ears”

Robin Tilbrook
Chairman,
The English Democrats,
Quires Green, Willingale, Ongar, Essex, CM5 0QP
Tel: 01277 896000
Fax: 01277 896050
Mobile : 07778 553395
Blog: http://robintilbrook.blogspot.co.uk/
FaceBook Profile: http://www.facebook.com/robin.tilbrook
Party Tel: 0207 242 1066
Twitter: @RobinTilbrook
Party Website: www.englishdemocrats.org
English Democrats’ FB Page: http://www.facebook.com/robin.tilbrook#!/www.EngDem.org
Chairman’s FB
Page: http://www.facebook.com/robin.tilbrook#!/Robin.Tilbrook.English.Democrats
Key facts about the English Democrats
The English Democrats launched in 2002. The English Democrats are the English nationalist Party which campaigns for a Parliament for England, First Minister and Government, with at least the same powers as the Scottish ones within a Federal UK; for St George’s Day to be England’s National holiday; for Jerusalem to be England’s National Anthem; for a Referendum to leave the EU; for an end to mass immigration; for the Cross of St George to be flown on all public buildings in England.
The English Democrats are England’s answer to the Scottish National Party and Plaid Cymru. The English Democrats’ greatest electoral successes to date include winning the Directly Elected Executive Mayoralty of Doncaster Metropolitan Borough Council and the 2012 referendum; We won the referendum which triggered a referendum to give Salford City an Elected Mayor; In 2012 we saved all our deposits in the Police Commissioner elections and came second in South Yorkshire; In the 2009 EU election we gained 279,801 votes after a total EU campaign spend of less than £25,000 (giving the English Democrats by far the most cost efficient electoral result of any serious Party in the UK)
 

 
CC: ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk; davidlane@engdem.org; stevenuncles@engdem.org
From: derekhilling@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Mike Nattrass Proposal to the English Democrats
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:09:56 +0200
To: RobinTilbrook@aol.com
Robin, I think the first sentence is too long and not sufficiently ‘snappy’. We need to get their attention immediately. Other than that, it is good.

Regards,
Derek

Sent from my iPhone

On 18 Sep 2013, at 18:08, RobinTilbrook@aol.com wrote:
Dear Mike, David, Steve and Derek

Please see below the press release to read, amend or approve.

Regards

Robin

EMBARGOED UNTIL 00:01 a.m. Friday, 20th September 2013
BREAKING NEWS – UKIP MEP, MIKE NATTRASS MOVES TO THE ENGLISH DEMOCRATS
 
UKIP’s only remaining West Midlands MEP has announced that he is moving from UKIP, partly in disgust at Nigel Farage’s corruption of the UKIP’s selection processes and also because Mike Nattrass wants to be part of the only genuine English Nationalist Party that wants England to be independent of the EU.  Mike Nattrass will be standing as the English Democrats’ Lead Candidate for the EU Parliament election on the 22nd May 2014, with supporting positions taken by Derek Hilling, our Party Secretary and David Lane, our West Midlands Chairman.
 
The English Democrats are delighted to welcome Mike Nattrass as a member of the English Democrats and as our first English Democrat MEP.  Mike’s move to join us is partly as a result of UKIP’s obsessive focus on the United Kingdom and the exclusion of any genuine interest in English interests.
 
Robin Tilbrook, the English Democrats Party Chairman, said:-  “I am delighted to welcome Mike Nattrass as a member of the English Democrats and look forward to working with him to get him re-elected this time as an English Democrats MEP, in May 2014.  Over the coming year I am fully expecting the question of Scottish Independence to become of increasing interest as we build up to the Scottish Independence referendum.  The English Democrats are England’s equivalent to the Scottish Nationalist Party and the only party that is a genuine English nationalist party.  At our conference one of the key proposals is the adoption of a keynote policy of Independence for England.”
 
Robin continued:- “Interestingly if England becomes independent the EU Justice Commissioner has already confirmed that any newly independent nation will automatically be outside of the EU, claiming that they would “have to re-join”!  Our policy of Independence for England will therefore appeal to all those who want England to leave the EU!”

Robin Tilbrook
Chairman,
The English Democrats,
Quires Green, Willingale, Ongar, Essex, CM5 0QP
Tel: 01277 896000
Fax: 01277 896050
Mobile : 07778 553395
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The English Democrats launched in 2002. The English Democrats are the English nationalist Party which campaigns for a Parliament for England, First Minister and Government, with at least the same powers as the Scottish ones within a Federal UK; for St George’s Day to be England’s National holiday; for Jerusalem to be England’s National Anthem; for a Referendum to leave the EU; for an end to mass immigration; for the Cross of St George to be flown on all public buildings in England.
The English Democrats are England’s answer to the Scottish National Party and Plaid Cymru. The English Democrats’ greatest electoral successes to date include winning the Directly Elected Executive Mayoralty of Doncaster Metropolitan Borough Council and the 2012 referendum; We won the referendum which triggered a referendum to give Salford City an Elected Mayor; In 2012 we saved all our deposits in the Police Commissioner elections and came second in South Yorkshire; In the 2009 EU election we gained 279,801 votes after a total EU campaign spend of less than £25,000 (giving the English Democrats by far the most cost efficient electoral result of any serious Party in the UK)
 
In a message dated 18/09/2013 08:04:19 GMT Daylight Time, ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk writes:
Sorry Derek but I got the impression, from your email, that you needed to see me.

But you did say “after the Conference” and so be it.

No problem and we will meet again anyway on Friday pm.

Mike

 
CC: davidlane@engdem.org; robintilbrook@aol.com; stevenuncles@engdem.org
From: derekhilling@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Mike Nattrass Proposal to the English Democrats
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 07:47:30 +0200
To: ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk
Hello Mike,

I’m sorry but I won’t be flying back into Birmingham until Friday afternoon, I have work meetings in the morning.
Is there something urgent that needs to happen before the NC? I had not got this impression from previous communications. I would prefer to set aside time next week for a full discussion.

Regards,
Derek

Sent from my iPhone

On 17 Sep 2013, at 17:41, mike nattrass <ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Derek,

No problem at all, but can we meet Friday morning?

Mike
 
CC: davidlane@engdem.org; robintilbrook@aol.com; stevenuncles@engdem.org
From: derekhilling@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Mike Nattrass Proposal to the English Democrats
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:32:25 +0100
To: ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk
Hello Mike,
I am currently in Birmingham airport waiting for a flight to Amsterdam. The trip is only for work I’m afraid, I don’t think I shall be partaking of any of the local delights!
I’m back on Friday so let’s have a chat before the meeting and arrange something convenient for us all, perhaps next week. It seems like we are all a bit pre-occupied this week.

Regards,
Derek

Sent from my iPhone

On 17 Sep 2013, at 14:48, mike nattrass <ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Thanks Derek,

If you need to talk before Friday we can meet Wednesday pm or Thursday pm or Friday morning.

I am only too happy for the three of us to work on a campaign.

it is just that I am fighting back at present and time has been my problem. I did an interview for ITV yesterday in Brussels but as yet I cannot mention the English Democrats.

IF we all agree, that bombshell will hit on Saturday.

When shall we meet?

Mike

 
Subject: Re: Mike Nattrass Proposal to the English Democrats
From: derekhilling@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:54:07 +0100
CC: stevenuncles@engdem.org; davidlane@engdem.org; robintilbrook@engdem.org
To: ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk

Mike,

I appreciate your reluctance with FaceBook and Twitter and I would not want you to undertake any campaigning activity that you are not comfortable with. That was not where I was coming from.

I simply want you, David and I to work out a ‘modus operandi’ but this does not necessarily have to be done on Friday evening. I hope you would agree that it will be better in the long term to know where we all stand.

See you Friday!

regards,
Derek

On 16 Sep 2013, at 10:08, mike nattrass wrote:

Derek,
 
CONFIDENTIAL
 
Good to hear from you and you can call or email anytime.
 
However I am not sure which aspect you are meaning, because you have not missed anything.
 
Any agreement, for example is still in draft and the last thing we need are many draft agreements flying about and being commented upon, when they are all incorrect and conflict with EU rules!
My first reply to that agreement was yesterday when I tried to point out that EU rules are paramount in budget planning etc.
Any agreement which supposes otherwise, and gets out, would make page one of The Guardian! The less emails the better.
 
We need a concluding meeting on Friday …evening? But only if you and I are happy and the members want me to join.
 
I have never thought that you had no plan, but the emails have not been about a plan and no plan has been discussed. I have not mentioned any plan and certainly not made a comment about a plan.
 
David has had an email from me about 4 ex BNP members and I await that reply. I need to know the facts to defend because I will be under attack. Already Nikki Sinclaire, UKIP and another have send me lists of so called undesirables taken in from the BNP. A myth that I need to strongly counter!!
 
I REFUSE POINT BLANK TO GO ONTO FACEBOOK OR TWITTER and I have to say that this is a prime condition of any further progress.
Facebook has lost UKIP two seats and caused major problems (I blame it for the heart attack and death of a UKIP Councillor). The two worst problems I have with your party are two facebook entries. One a Holocaust Denial from a member and another about Thalidomide victims. If you cannot see the damage look again. I am still waiting a rely from David (who I can see is a good chap)
 
I am in Brussels today and speaking at Probus, Droitwich tomorrow and the tread mill never stops.
 
You have not been out of any loop and nothing has yet been concluded without you.
 
Good luck.
 
Mike.
 
 
Subject: Re: Mike Nattrass Proposal to the English Democrats
From: derekhilling@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:48:26 +0100
CC: derekhilling@engdem.org; DavidLane@EngDem.org; robintilbrook@engdem.org
To: StevenUncles@EngDem.org; ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk

Dear Mike,

If you would be so good as to include myself and David Lane in any future correspondence regarding arrangements with the English Democrats, I think this will foster a better working relationship. Ultimately it is David and myself that you will have to deal with on a day-to-day basis, not Steve.

As I have previously stated myself and David would like to meet with you, after our conference this weekend, to work-out an agreement for the coming months and years. We certainly do have a plan whatever you may have thought previously.

I look forward to a suggested date for such a meeting, or perhaps we can discuss this when we meet on Friday.

regards,

Derek Hilling
National Secretary &
East Midlands Area Chairman
 
English Democrats
Not Right Not Left For England!

On 15 Sep 2013, at 21:49, StevenUncles wrote:

Dear Mike
 
Thanks for this – we appear to be broadly in agreement, but no doubt Derek Hilling and David Lane will wish to add a few further details, especially relating to the 2014 Campaign and working together in the West Midlands.
 
Robin as you are aware is a Solicitor so the final version I suggest is produced by Robin Tilbrook, I hope this is OK ?
 
Derek Hilling (National Party Secretary) will confirm the arrangements for Friday Evening at the Leicester Hilton.
 
Kind regards
 
 
Steve Uncles
2014 EU Elections Prospective Candidate
South East England
English Democrats
 
Head Office:  0207 242 1066
Direct:            01322  225995
Mobile:          07931  390029
 
From: mike nattrass [mailto:ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk]
Sent: 15 September 2013 20:50
To: Steven Uncles
Cc: robintilbrook@aol.com
Subject: RE: Mike N

Not content with destroying what little credibility he once had Mike Nattrass in pique at his abject failure to achieve anthing in political reality now seeks, we gather, to try to jump on Nikki Sinclaire’s band wagon, which she created having quit UKIP on ethical grounds, unlike Mike Nattrass who having been a prime mover in the corruption of UKIP for many years left6 in a tantrum when he fgell out of favour with Farage and was dumped as a candidate for election as an MEP in 2014!

MNike is to face political humiliation and prove that ALL political careers end in failure having decided to stand on as near a similar platform as he could manage to that of Nikki Sinclaire to try to spoil her chances after the work she has done for her constituents and the cause of a referendum!

Mike Nattrass and Robin Tilbrook actually deserved eachother!
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Mike Nattrass is in the main correct about UKIP

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UKIP watchers may well be interested in the statement below by Mike Nattrass that I have received, which is doing the rounds:

I THINK THE FOLLOWING MAY EXPLAIN WHY HONESTY DOES NOT PAY IF YOU WISH TO REMAIN A UKIP MEP UNDER NIGEL FARAGE …
AND WHY I AM A TROUBLEMAKER.

1.I
stood up and supported the campaign against UKIP becoming a Pan European Party. I said that single parties across the EU would be a clear stepping stone to EU Federalism. (just like Republicans and Democrats across all USA states).

Nigel was incandescent when the members rejected the proposal because he was denied more money, I was blamed.

2. I
flagged up the fact that that Nigel started paying his wife (back in the 2004 parliamentary session) after telling all UKIP MEPs at length that one of the Golden Rules was that no UKIP MEP could pay a wife.

He secretly paid his wife without consulting the other UKIP MEPs and he was found out. Just like the pigs in animal farm changing the rules to suit themselves, he gave no apology.

He knew that I had exposed him.

3. I
campaigned against the UKIP Constitution, because it put all the Party’s power into the hands of one person, Nigel Farage.

That Constitution was passed by 91.8% according to Nigel. I doubt if many members read it before voting!

Nigel was aware that I advised members to vote NO.

4. I
pointed out that the EFD EU Group which Nigel leads (to get more money) contained Italian racists. I wrote to the NEC giving a dossier on Mario Borghasio and others … it was ignored and I left the EFD Group.

Later Mario openly supported the words of the Norwegian mass murderer and went on to racially abuse a black lady Italian Government Minister.

Did I get “well spotted, Mike” no I was the problem.

There are other aspects but you may see my point by now……… he who speaks the truth is fixed by Nigel’s hit squad. As time goes by the truth of what I am saying will be understood. Every party needs democratic discussion on policy…..not Farage’s Totalitarianism.

The Hit Squad continue to eject truth tellers and over the last three weeks two NEC members have been expelled, Doug Denny and Chris Pain for being honest ….. so where is the incentive to tell the truth within UKIP?

I first joined the UKIP NEC in 1997, I have been Party Chairman and later Deputy Leader and agree UKIP policy and have many friends within the membership but to allow the whole of our efforts to fall into the wrong hands was never the objective.

As for expansion, it is a fact that UKIP is now better known but the party had more MEPs under Roger Knapman than it does today. You will note how a number of UKIP MEPs have left and others are “marked down” on the MEP selection voting list. e.g. William Dartmouth and Gerard Batten …. quite simply because they do express their own views (however neither was in the vote rigging meeting)

UKIP must be known for policy, not for lack of honour and lack of truth.

Mike

MIKE NATTRASS MEP

Clearly Mike Nattrass is seeking to clear his name having been not only a stauncfh supporter of Nigel Farage and the corruption of UKIP as we should all remember that not only was he very much a part of the team that instigated much of the corruption but he also invested a considerable amount of his own money to ensure he personally remained a part of that and kept his place on the gravy train.
Nattrass has in fact largely destroyed his credibility by making claims that seem very exagerated, as with his claim that HE exposed Farage’s unethical payment of his wife Kirsten when it is very clear he did nothing of the sort as it was information I was party to and was published in the broadsheet media by Daniel Foggo.
It must also be recognised that with his bullying mannerNattrass was seen as very much one of Farage’s enforcers and it is seen as actions to improve his own position that found him providing offices for UKIP and playing an on off relationship with the undeniably racist, anti homosexual, extremist UKIP grouping in the EU as members of the pan EU EFD Group which hje did lit6tle to oppose until he had the opportunity to follow the e3thical lead of Nikki Sinclaire when he and Trevor Coleman sometime UKIP MEP quit the group.

The on off Hokey Kokey behaviour of Nattrass can also be seen in his seemingly unethical dealings with the EDP, to whom he made aedvances and agreed not6 only to speak at their conference but the terms of his joining The English Democrat Party, on which he reneged, at the last minute, on the flimsiest of grounds.

It is also worth noting that of 18 elected MEPs UKIP currently has only 7 sitting

 
Nigel Farage
South East Region
 
Stuart Agnew
Eastern Region

Gerard Batten
London Region
 
 
 


John Bufton
Wales
 Paul Nuttall
North West Region
Derek Clark
East Midlands Region
William Dartmouth
South West Region
 
+ of course the self serving
Roger Helmer who was elected as a Tory and in revenge for not being able to force his chosen successor now sits with UKIP on their extremist, racist and anti homosexual EFD Group, where he is more a liability than an assett.

Trevor Coleman is still technicaly an MEP in UKIP though he rarely turns up and would seem to be such an infrequent visitor that he is I believe in jeopardy of forfeiting his allowances and losing his staff! Do also note he followed the ethical example of Nikki Sinclaire and quitthe odious EFD Group, thus no longer sitting with UKIP.
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Hi,I am fortunate enough to have been kept in the loop on the issue of Mike Nattrass’ resignation from UKIP and his aims to have his hand held by joining the EDP to try to enhance his chances of being re-elected as an MEP on the gravy train in 2014.

The meeting over lunch in Solihull between the EDP and Mike Nattrass and his wife Joyce has led to the following.

Do not forget that Mike Nattrass spoke at the EDP conference a couple of years ago when he was on the point of quitting UKIP and joining the EDP, until wiser political heads prevailed and talked him out of such a politically foolish move.

Mike Nattrass is also scheduled to be a speaker at the EDP conference this weekend though in the light of the agreed and embargoed Press Release from Robin Tilbrook he will be speaking on the subject of HS2 as a member of the EDP.

From: mike nattrass [mailto:ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk] 
Sent: 15 September 2013

Subject: RE: Mike Nattress Proposal to the English Democrats

DRAFT ……………

SUBJECT TO OUR MEETING ON 20th SEPT 2013

1/ I will become an English Democrat MEP transferring from UKIP on 21 September 2013 – and recognise the opportunity to raise the profile of the English Democrats through the expected press attention, and would indeed encourage current UKIP members from all over England to join the English Democrats.

 

2/ The EU Communications budget and other MEP EU budgets are subject to tight EU rules and the English Democrats will not attempt to influence the MEP in breaking any of those rules.

 

EU money cannot for example be expended in The West Midlands Election Campaign and this is understood. 

 

I will provide the £5000 deposit and recover it when refunded.

I will fund raise for my campaign and consult with yourselves throughout.

 

The 7 staff currently employed are dealing with constituency issues and whilst they gain good publicity for the MEP in solving constituency issues they are not for example a Campaign Team.

 

3/ I wish to head the West Midlands English Democrats Party List (Lead Candidate 2014 West Midlands) and serve as an MEP for 1 year if elected.

 

IN THE EVENT OF MY ELECTION AS AN MEP IN 2014……………….

 

4/ I would employ Derek Hilling for one year from 1st September 2014 as part of my EU Staff if elected at £40,000 per year. (If he is not elected in the No 2 Slot)

 

5/ After one year I will step down on 1st September 2015 as the MEP for the West Midlands, and transfer to Derek Hilling

 

6/  At 1st September 2015 I will be employed by Derek Hilling MEP as part of his EU Staff for 2 years at £40,000 per year.

 

7/ Derek Hilling will continue to pay the rent at the regional office at 48 Fentham Road, Hampton in Arden B92 0AYoffice for the 5 year term operating until 2019.

 

8/ Derek Hilling MEP will take over and respect any existing staff contracts.

 

9 / I undertake to leave the position of MEP on 1st Sept 2015 and if Derek Hilling, for any reason, cannot take over the post of MEP then another person will be selected by the Leadership of the English Democrats and all of the above conditions will apply by the substitution of their name for that of Derek Hilling.

 

10/ I am willing to sign a legal document to confirm an agreement reached.

 

To confirm …office address is:-

48 FENTHAM ROAD
HAMPTON IN ARDEN
B92 0AY

This led to the following, where as you will note I have honoured the embargo, the information was available to me to clarify my posting earlier CLICK HERE however I was not in a position to clarify honourably, sorry if this led to any confusion but as all informants will be aware I ALWAYS honour embargoes and secure the confidentiality of my sources:

EMBARGOED UNTIL
00:01 a.m. Friday, 20th September 2013


BREAKING NEWS – MEP, MIKE NATTRASS MOVES TO THE ENGLISH DEMOCRATS

 

West Midlands MEP Mike Nattrass has announced that he wishes to join the English Democratic Party, the only party that wants England to be independent of the EU. 



Mike Nattrass will be standing as the English Democrats’ Lead Candidate for the EU Parliament election on the 22nd May 2014, with supporting positions taken by Derek Hilling, Party Secretary and David Lane, West Midlands Chairman.

 

The English Democrats are delighted to welcome Mike Nattrass as a member of the party and as our first English Democrat MEP.  



Mike joined the English Democrats because no other party stands firm and believes in the protection of  English interests.

 

Robin Tilbrook, the English Democrats Party Chairman, said:-  “I am delighted to welcome Mike Nattrass as a member of the English Democrats and look forward to getting him re-elected again as an English Democrat MEP, on 22nd May 2014.  



“Over the coming year Scottish Independence will be in focus as they face the Scottish Independence referendum.  The English Democrats are England’s equivalent to that Party and our conference will debate further one of our key policy proposals, Independence for England.”

 

Robin continued:- “The EU Justice Commissioner has already confirmed that when England becomes independent it will not remain within the EU and would “have to re-join”!  

 

As our policy is that “We will not wish to rejoin!”  this will appeal to all those wishing to see England escape, out of the EU!”



Mike Nattrass MEP responded by saying “England is my home and The English Democrats are my Party. The policy of not applying to rejoin the EU is English music to my ears”



Robin Tilbrook

Chairman,

The English Democrats,

Quires Green, Willingale, Ongar, Essex, CM5 0QP

Tel: 01277 896000

Fax: 01277 896050

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The English Democrats launched in 2002. The English Democrats are the English nationalist Party which campaigns for a Parliament for England, First Minister and Government, with at least the same powers as the Scottish ones within a Federal UK; for St George’s Day to be England’s National holiday; for Jerusalem to be England’s National Anthem; for a Referendum to leave the EU; for an end to mass immigration; for the Cross of St George to be flown on all public buildings in England.

The English Democrats are England’s answer to the Scottish National Party and Plaid Cymru. The English Democrats’ greatest electoral successes to date include winning the Directly Elected Executive Mayoralty of Doncaster Metropolitan Borough Council and the 2012 referendum; We won the referendum which triggered a referendum to give Salford City an Elected Mayor; In 2012 we saved all our deposits in the Police Commissioner elections and came second in South Yorkshire; In the 2009 EU election we gained 279,801 votes after a total EU campaign spend of less than £25,000 (giving the English Democrats by far the most cost efficient electoral result of any serious Party in the UK)

Obviously Mike Nattrass’ credibility is flat on its back having started out in the extremist and unpleasant New Britain, which is now defunct.

NATRASS New Britain 01
He then joined UKIP where he was rapidly in the position of enforcer for Farage o ensure the various fiddles and scams were kept under wraps bullying and abusing people who threatened to expose the corruption and seemingly in return he was selected as an MEP candidate a campaign he invested in to gain access to the cash flow on the gravy train and self enrichment.

Nattrass took full advantage of his income but over the next few years he was almost invisible in terms of campaigning to Leave-The-EU though could be relied on to fund his campaighn to stay in the public eye to ensure his income stream on the gravy train continued!

NATTRASS, Mike 01
Then he fell out with Farage and published the evicerating denunciation of Farage’s values and method of leading the party!

It was at this stage he followed Nikki Sinclaire’s lead and quit Farage’s odious EFD Group in the EU denouncing its racism and anti homosexual clique of extremists criminals and holocaust deniers.

And so he progressed rejoining the EFD when it suited him in his efforts to stay on the gravy train. Well until he fell foul of the corrupt selection process he had been all too happy to take advantage of to get elected and remain as an MEP – He then threw his toys out of his pram attacking UKIP & Farage in particular in his temper tantrum.

We note he had never spoken out about the corruption of the process that was well known to the informed when it worked in his favour and it seems he is still too timerous to expose the details of the scams for which he was seemingly Farage’s bully boy in the past, or so it would seem!

Probably because he was considering the consequences on himself as one of the prime movers of the leading clique were he to expose the truth!

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