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Hi,I guess we can expect UKIP to peddle more platitudes about not being racist against all the evidence.
The British media are constantly identifying instances where members of every rank in the party manifest their fundamental racist beliefs – Strangely the media are desperately trying to protect UKIP, in spite of this, as UKIP are a very good foil for the Tories and with a largely left wing press we see them again and again like bull fighters using UKIP as a cloak which they wave in the face of the Tories to try to gain a reaction.
The media does succeed and therefore they keep ensuring UKIP’s survival by giving them publicity yet pulling their punches because the still need UKIP as a red rag to wave at Cameron to try to cause his back benches to break ranks, which they are doing as they squabble over EU membership when clearly the electorate want either a very different relationship and restoration of our sovereignty and our democracy and the return of control of our borders, businesses and laws.
Clearly we are happy to be bound by the standards of global organisations we have a democratic say in such as WHO, WTO, CODEX, UN Davos and many more – rules and agreements in international trade and standards which currently the EU stamps its impramature and imposes them on its vassal regions adding to the imposition by subsuming the sovereignty of the nation states in denial of meaningful democracy and excercising unwanted political controls.
The media by and large are happy to use UKIP for their own ends, be that the left wing use as rag to the bull at the Tories and amongst the right wing media it is used to try to sharpen up and modify the policies of Tory leadership.
Clearly the media seek not to destroy UKIP by publishing the facts o the truth or they would persist in exposing the corruption, bullying and unpleasant practices of UKIP’s centralised absolute control of the leadership, the huge amounts of missing money or at very least unaccounted but most damning of all is the clear and undeniable racism which is best exposed by showing the extremist, racist, anti homosexual anti Jewish associations UKIP has built up – particularly in Nigel Farage’s EFD Group wich he exploits to fund seemingly himself as there are no records of donation by Farage to UKIP as he trousers such monies as he can obtain, banking in at least 3 different countries and possibly more to obfuscate his income and wealth and minimise his taxation one would assume!
Farage is not alone in these banking ruses of course and I am sure they will be within the law though morally reprehensible – it is such facts exposed to the public at large that would seriously damage UKIP, but clearly that would not play to the tune the media wish to play in manipulating British politics and the EU agenda which so conveniently funds and supports them with tax payers’ money, as with extensive subsidised loans and and hospitality not to mention the funding of the BBC by direct and mandatory tax payments in the form of license.
UKIP’s vile Mandela ‘slave’ rant exposed: Disgusting remarks made about South African president and murdered teenager Stephen Lawrence ‘reveal true face of party’
- Controversial remarks were made on the party’s internal online forum
- Mocked Mr Lawrence as ‘Saint Stephen’ and said his mother was ‘boring’
- Another said some people were ‘intended by nature’ to be slaves
- One said: ‘I actually agree with the EDL on what they protest about’
By Glen Owen
PUBLISHED: 22:25, 11 January 2014 | UPDATED: 13:33, 12 January 2014
Nigel Farage was last night at the centre of a new racism storm over shocking remarks made by UKIP officials about Nelson Mandela and the murdered black teenager Stephen Lawrence.
One mocked Mr Lawrence as ‘Saint Stephen’ and said his grieving mother was ‘boring us all to tears’.
Another, writing just days after Mandela’s death, said that some ‘base-born’ people were ‘intended by nature’ to be ‘slaves’.
Sickening: UKIP members made comments about Nelson Mandela (left) and Doreen Lawrence, mother of the murdered Stephen, in posts on an internal party forum
Opponents said that the remarks – made on an internal party forum used by senior figures, including party leader Mr Farage – revealed the ‘true face’ of the party.
Some of the most shocking messages concerned Mr Lawrence, who was killed in a racist attack in South London in 1993.
Pamela Preedy, secretary of UKIP’s Redcar branch, wrote: ‘The image of Stephen Lawrence has been promoted to sainthood, with his own memorial site, constant invocation of his name in any discussion of racism; even to close down a discussion about immigration when the issue bore no relevance to his murder’.
Disrespectful: Pamela Creedy, the secretary of UKIP’s Redcar branch, referred to the murder victim as ‘Saint Stephen’
Ms Preedy then accused David Cameron of ‘worshipping at the shrine of Saint Stephen’, complaining that ‘we are supposed to publicly mark the anniversaries of his death . . . Please give it a rest!’
Ms Preedy added in the message, left last year: ‘I’m sure his mother still grieves for him, but it’s time she did it privately without setting him up as some kind of media icon. She risks . . . boring us all to tears.’
Another contributor to the forum, Keith Woods, a UKIP council election candidate, commented as part of the same exchange: ‘As for St Stephen of Racism, I feel sorry for the parents of many white youths that have been murdered . . . no one seems to give a toss . . . your son gets murdered, you become an expert on race relations it seems . . . but only if you are a particular colour’.
The death of former South African President Nelson Mandela last month prompted some UKIP members to discuss whether it was ‘time for a reappraisal’ of the reviled apartheid system.
David William Griffiths, a member of UKIP’s West London branch, used the site to argue that some people were ‘intended by nature’ to be slaves and were ‘marked out for subjection’ from birth.
He went on to quote selectively from Hindu literature to argue that a ‘base-born man’ can ‘never conceal his real nature’.
He concluded with the offensive line: ‘That kingdom in which such b*******, sullying [the purity of] the castes, are born, perishes quickly together with its inhabitants.’
The word b******* has been removed from the quote, on the grounds that it was ‘offensive language’ which had been ‘auto-deleted’.
Other postings appear to confirm the claims of UKIP’s opponents that many of its activists back the policies of openly racist far-Right groups such as the British National Party (BNP) and the English Defence League (EDL).
One councillor, who uses the online name Icini123, boasted: ‘Some individuals who voted for BNP in desperation, because there was no other alternate where we didn’t stand, have come over to us now.’
Outrage: Veteran anti-apartheid campaigner Peter Hain said the comments showed ‘the true face of UKIP’
Martin Caine, a UKIP committee member in Poole & Mid Dorset, wrote: ‘I actually agree with the EDL on what they protest about.’
And Alexander Monk, a UKIP member from Lowestoft, said: ‘What really grinds my gears about it is people are declaring the EDL as “extremist” which is tosh in my eyes.’
And in a message earlier this month, Brian Otridge, who is a campaign manager for UKIP’s North West Hampshire Branch, declared UKIP should be directly targeting BNP voters in the wake of their leader, Nick Griffin, being declared bankrupt.
New force: Mr Farage vowed to start a campaign for the 2015 General Election to ¿pick off¿ vulnerable seats, including several held by Labour
Noting that the BNP received hundreds of thousands of votes in the 2010 General Election, Mr Otridge said: ‘We should be picking up 50-75 per cent of those now.’
Last night, veteran anti-apartheid campaigner Peter Hain said: ‘This is the true face of UKIP. Under their thin veil of respectability lurks rampant bigotry and prejudice, fed by disenchantment and feelings of social injustice.
‘None of these comments surprise me, because whenever I speak out about apartheid I am bombarded with bigoted and quasi-racist tweets from UKIP supporters.’
Last month this newspaper revealed that Victoria Ayling, an ally of Mr Farage, had been captured on video saying of immigrants: ‘I just want to send the lot back.’
Mr Farage vowed yesterday to start a new targeted campaign for the 2015 General Election to ‘pick off’ vulnerable seats, including several held by Labour.
He declared: ‘This party feels itself to be a new force in British politics. The goal is to get enough representation in Westminster to make the difference.’
Last night, commenting on the forum posts, a UKIP spokesman said: ‘UKIP does not endorse any of the comments made on this forum which go against the party’s principles and core values.
‘However, the party does not police open discussions. Where elected representatives or party figures make comments bringing the party into disrepute, we act accordingly.’
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Regards,
Greg_L-W.
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Hi,
UKIP’s Undeniable Racism
To clarify what some may have felt was a harsh title for my recent web posting CLICK HERE
I have amended the ‘Long Title’ for further clarity, as follows:
‘UKIP for all its denials Is Racist to its core, as a title is apposite as there has been very little if any censure of overt racism and worse still clear and undeniable support of racism.
Some may feel the title would be more accurate as ‘UKIP is racist AT its core’ however that overlooks the huge number of racists amongst its members at all levels (disproportionate to the two main UK parties) particularly with its large influx of ex BNP members and close association with the EDL and EDP and the overt and unchallenged apparent racism of the likes of Gerard Batten, as is shown time after time by the behaviour of members at all levels.
UKIP constantly claims its reasons for membership of the EFD are to gain more money from the tax payers of the EU, and have more say in the EU Parliament – as a result of which they clearly aid the various extremists, racists, anti homosexual, Holocaust deniers, practicioners of violence and anti Jewish xenophobes of their Pan EU EFD Group.
UKIP is clearly and undeniably supporting and helping to fund racism, extremism, Holocaust denial, religious phobia and anti homosexuality with its associates in their EFD Group!!’
I trust this, together with the extensive list of examples backing my statement via links and quotes will help to clarify why UKIP is undeniably a racist organisation that has prostituted its principles for perceived gain and the enrichment of the few in their leadership clique.
A brief perusal will show just how little is donated by those enriched by the party to anything much beyond their own efforts to seek re-election and further enrichment on the gravy train – The public must by now be all too aware of the fact that some amongst them, maybe all, also have overseas bank accounts to reduce their liability to British tax.
Do be minded, when considering their apparent donations, that not one of the MEPs would seem to have donated anywhere near the amount they can expect in EU pensions, little wonder they are all too willing to fund parts of their own re-election campaigns and the likes of Mike Nattrass and Godfrey Bloom manifest as being angered by their having been dropped as MEP candidates, though there is every possibility Godfrey Bloom will be reinstated at the last minute!
Blooms position as a chum of Nigel Farage’s currently having a ‘lover’s tiff’ was always on corrupt grounds having not been selected by the members in the first place and having been ‘placed’ by Farage as he ousted Dr. Richard North, seemingly as Richard North brought gravitas and competence, vision and structure to UKIP which Farage found at very least ‘challenging’ and seemingly removed him as a threat to his position leading UKIP long before his titular leadership.
Despite all this I find it likely UKIP will be largely aided by the media who, being by and large left wing and hugely bribed with tax payers money (either via lobbyists, of whom there are approx.. 10,000 in Brusells alone, or by subsidised loans and expenses from the EU or in terms of placement (or hope of) of obscene amounts of advertising by Labour should we be unfortunate enough to see them have a further period in which to destroy Britain as they clearly did in their previous unlucky 13 year term of economic illiteracy and obscene profligacy), are likely to provide a high level of support to UKIP to act as a weapon against the Tory party.
UKIP are likely to do well acting as the dustbin into which protest votes are cast, as the public are well aware that Britain has virtually no say or control over our own country and its laws via membership of the utterly corrupt and undemocratic EU. However there is little chance of UKIP improving on its catastrophic failures in all previous UK elections in 2015 and beyond as they are bereft of gravitas, strategy, tactics or professionalism with the shoddiest of structures and incompetent leadership.
It seems likely that UKIP will make the occasional showing in by elections where second i9s much proclaimed by them relative to Westminster and even EU Regional Governance scams like the various regional assemblies. As for Local Government they have by and large proved catastrophic and with less than 140 Councillors across the country after 21 years they can only be described as an also ran irelevance and are, under their present leadership likely to continue thus – especially in view of their undeniable racism, bullying and unprofessionalism.
After 21 years it is astonishing to realise the party is still in real terms a one man band rigidly, but incompetently, controlled from the center and without even an exit and survival strategy relative to the EU – That their one man is a competent ya-boo orator ever willing to make sound bites insulting people from the floor of the EU’s stage is really all that UKIP has to offer. There is always someone who is willing to praise such behaviour and claim it to be sagacity but be it Rory Bremner or Dave Allen before him able to play to an audience Farage’s antics are by and large seen as the comedy turn in the EU and make not a moment of difference.
Name a single solitary actual achievement in terms of leading Britain out of the EU that can be claimed by UKIP and of the 60,000,000+ in Britain I doubt if more than 500,000 (if that) have ever seen his EU Parliament performances, the same people will include those who have seen him elsewhere and his performances on his pet programme Question Time are as often damaging as they may be claimed helpful.
Regards,
Greg_L-W.
PS.: I have included this letter in the relevant post on my weBLOG at:
https://ukip-vs-eukip.com/2014/01/12/ukip-for-all-its-denials-is-racist-to-its-core
Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W)
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Craig Yates said
Whatever the faults of UKIP may or may not be they are not riddled with paedophiles, anti white racists, and followers of the most genocidal ideology in the history of mankind which makes them very different from liblabcon who are guilty of all these things.
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Greg Lance-Watkins said
Hi,
let us consider your un sourced allegations about UKIP for which you supply zero evidence.
Clearly you are unaware of the details put forward by David Gale and others regarding the proptection of a known paedophile with a police record who is on the sex offenders register, by senior members of UKIP.
You may well also be unaware of the support given by UKIP, particularly in Scotland, for the criminal Robert Green who has with others been abusing the Down Syndrome Hollie Greig and allegations of paedophelia.
Need I continue? I believe that paedophelia, not being either class or politically orientated is most probably represented in UKIP’s ranks and leadership in similar proportions to those in the two main parties and all of the also ran political parties.
I am indifferent to your racist comment which clearly shows that like many others in UKIP racism is felt to be acceptable amongst the rank and file and as a party UKIP is very clearly extremist, racist, anti homosexual and supportive of violence in all of these contexts – an undeniable fact – whatever you may believe of the various other political parties in Britain.
You gratuitously allege that the two main parties and the Lib.Dims. are ‘followers of the most genocidal ideology in the history of mankind …’ yet you fail to define your fantasies to what you are talking about!
Sir, with respect your claims are not only ill defined but clearly unsound and obviously ill informed.
For the record I abhore your overt racism and consider your views to be beneath contempt.
Regards,
Greg_L-W.
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