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UKIP’s Underlying Corruption & Dishonest Claque

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 26/08/2012

UKIP’s Underlying Corruption & Dishonest Claque

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ADDITION on 27-Aug-2012:
see below as shown

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Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

UKIP’s Underlying Corruption & Dishonest Claque!
Again and again the dishonesty of UKIP’s spokesmen and women, whether acting as cowards with false names or the likes of low lifes such as Mick McGough, Gerard Batten, Kevin Mahoney, Derek Clark, Douglas Denny, Bob Feel Martinis, Stuart Parr or similar unethical posters – The name of EUroScepticism is befouled and UKIP shown for what it really is!

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Hi,
consider the following unprincipled and dishonest posting, on Anthony Butcher’s UKIP controlled forum ,which has been drawn to my attention by an annoyed and embarrassed UKIP supporter:
If one was to take a trip to Mr Warry’s own lengthy thread of over 100 pages called UKIP v EUKIP (sic), one might find criticisms of several prominent UKIP personnel and indeed if one was looking for links to dubious and/or false information linked by Mr Warry, one should venture to the same thread, which contains a link to some seriously dubious and probably false allegations against Mr Batten. Allegations, I might add, that have have been so shocking that the author(s) have decided to go on an extended vacation, arguably to keep their heads down. That is just one example. I think it serves as a shining example of Mr Warry’s almost urgent need to criticise UKIP, even when the claims are at least contentious Mr Morson – my attention was drawn as I have seen on several occasions on this forum accusations of crime and of police investigations, often without sources – again, I accept that it’s up to us forum members to protest about rule violations but those rules in particular seem to be broken frequently on the UKIP pages
In response to the foolish and cowardly parasite of UKIP too ashamed to put his name to his serially dishonest, misleading and offensive posturing in defence of the criminality, lies, frauds and ethical failures of UKIP – which highlight the corruption and provenance that not only is UKIP unfit for purpose but as the electorate have shown time after time they are unfit for public office in British domestic politics with less than 30 elected seats out of some 19,500 possible!
Geoffrey Collier, a long term honourable and proven reliable supporter of UKIP comments on the corruption of the cowardly comments of the false named low life fot UKIP as follows:
How exacting must your sources be?
Do convictions at Westminster Magistrates Court and Southwark Crown Court count as reliable sources?
What about drink-drive offence convictions, at Boston Magistrates Court?
What about nationally reported arrests in the West Midlands?
The Huffington Post recorded OLAF re-payments by a UKIP MEP concerning his unlawful use of EU funds: does that count?
What about convictions for benefit fraud at Newcastle Magistrates, against someone who subsequently was a UKIP press officer?
What about the confession by a UKIP MEP, reported in the national press that he, despite knowing its a crime, diverts EU funding to pay for UKIP staff?
He also named a colleague who does likewise? What about a current NEC member, formerly a MP, who took payments for asking parliamentary questions?
Against the evidence, you should stand amazed at the ‘posters’ moderation. Tolerating crime is UKIP members first test of party loyalty
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We all suffer the lies, abuse and distortions of the likes of Mick McGough, Stuart Parr, Douglas Denny, Derek Clark, Gerard Batten and others and the corrupt and cowardly claque seeking to gain status, whilst too ashamed to put their names to their distortions and lies.
Let us look at the example above which was brought to my attention by a UKIP supporter; who like myself wishes to see UKIP cleaned-up and made fit for purpose, by removal of the obvious scum that has floated to the top in the UKIP leadership septic tank!
So to fisk the lies of the anonymous cowardly commentator who is taking advantage of the utterly corrupted platform of the unethical and dishonest Anthony Butcher’s UKIP controlled Forum:
“If one was to take a trip to Mr Warry’s own lengthy thread of over 100 pages called UKIP v EUKIP (sic),”
Which it is noted has proved so popular that so far it has had 39,644 views and 1,084 posts & is far and away one of the most popular posts regarding UKIP on the entire UKIP controlled Forum, which Anthony Butcher owns and manages.
Interestingly it would seem that the most interesting topics regarding UKIP would be Junius and myself in one form or another either when others reiterate the facts posted on our blogs to widen the dissemination – or in desperate and dishonest efforts of UKIP’s self serving leadership and claque to pretend that what we have said is untrue – yet to date they have NEVER once provided a single solitary example of any consequential or deliberate effort on our part to mislead or lie relative to UKIP or its odious failed leadership and its self serving claque.
“one might find criticisms of several prominent UKIP personnel”
And as Niall Warry has pointed out ‘only dictators will not tollerate criticism’ – to which I might add were there not so very many features to criticise and were not UKIP so unarguably corrupt, dishonest, self serving and criminally inclined Junius and I would have nothing about which to write and we could continue and redouble our efforts to expose the corruption of The EU which has so enthralled and bedazled UKIP with its glittering lifestyle and constant over generous bribes that as Junius posters have said – ‘there is little point in further exposing UKIP on a regular basis as they are so befouled as to be of no further relevance in British domestic politics and have long been something of an inconsequential joke in The EU’.
“and indeed if one was looking for links to dubious and/or false information linked by Mr Warry, one should venture to the same thread,”
A wild and dishonest claim by the coward propping up the corruption in UKIP.
Were there ANY veracity in the false claim he has dishonestly made whilst sheltering in cowardly shame behind a false identity he would manage to identify these claimed falsehoods and show their consequential inaccuracy.
He might in many 1,000s of postings I have made manage to identify any consequential error – without of course taking it out of context to distort it to dishonestly mislead his fan club!
The reference (URL) to identify any error I may inadvertantly have made would be welcome as then such CLAIMED error could be corrected and clarified!
“which contains a link to some seriously dubious and probably false allegations against Mr Batten.”
Oh indeed Gerard Batten would seem to have made some VERY dubious claims – he even set out to waste Police time in an effort to suppress the truth and distort the facts, in abuse of his position of trust as an elected public servant.
Indeed there are some very serious claims made about the clearly dubious, if not outright revolting, behaviour of Gerard Batten.
That Gerard Batten nor his legal representatives have made any honest or ethical effort to seek correction, nor request right of reply, nor seek removal, nor demand apology clearly indicates that in substance, if not in detail also, the published claims of Jasna Badzak would seem to be true and thus Junius would obviously have the absolute right of defence on the grounds of ‘veritas’ – though I appreciate that a part of the very law that UKIP upholds in The EU in that it has not clearly and with determination opposed it is the fact that under ‘Corpus Juris’ increasingly the truth is not a defence!
It is possible that by use of EU law Gerard Batten could again lie about the circumstances and facts to gain a dishonest resolution by abusing his elected office in his own sordid interests – which as we all know he has proved willing to do in the past.
“Allegations, I might add, that have have been so shocking that the author(s) have decided to go on an extended vacation, arguably to keep their heads down.”
‘Arguably’ – surely only a fool would use so dishonest an argument.
We know EXACTLY why Junius is no longer posting regularly and I can assure you, as I have, that it has absolutely nothing to do with the facts provided by Jasna Badzak which in good faith Junius, having proved various points were 100% true then published.
The diminution of tyhe postings by Junius are however in part due to the odious behaviour of the likes of Batten and the serial propensity of UKIP’s leadership to steal from the public purse and consort and allie themselves with criminals and low lifes of similar standards – effectively ensuring that without radical action to remove almost all of its leading lights UKIP is little more than a bad smell befouling politics and has done more to sabotage the EUroSceptic cause than any other group, party or individual.
It will take a considerable time to recover from the damage done to these United Kingdoms by the greed, dishonesty, corruption and vile behaviour of the low lifes leading UKIP and its claque of self serving and dishonest bullying so called supporters.
“That is just one example.”
Clearly not the nost plausible or sensible example!
“I think it serves as a shining example of Mr Warry’s almost urgent need to criticise UKIP,”
Indeed there is an urgent need to expose the corruption of and within UKIP and to repeat the facts again, and again, and again, and again – until ALL are aware of the treachery and betrayal of Britaimn by this underclass of so called politicians and their parasites.
“even when the claims are at least contentious”
Clearly it is and always has been contentious to some, particularly the corrupt and those without ethics, to expose the duplicity and dishonesty of the likes of UKIP as they feed with greed at the troughs and are of such abysmally self serving low grade and gravitas.
& then the coward – after being called to task on his selective reading of the rules by Steve Morson replied:

“Mr Morson – my attention was drawn as I have seen on several occasions on this forum accusations of crime and of police investigations,”

Of course the foolish little coward has seen numerous accusations of criminality on the part of UKIP leadership, staff and senior members – There have been numerous such criminal acts and various police investigations and OLAF investigations and also Court cases (most of which UKIP seem to have lost!).
UKIP’s track record of fraud, dishonesty, abuse of public funds, abuse of office and utter incompetence is indisputable and sadly in proportion to their tiny number of elected officials is incredibly high in comparison to either of the main parties.
Criminality and corruption in UKIP is high by even minor partyies like The Lib.Dims., Greens or even it seems The BNP – or for that matter Plaid or The SNP – NOT a very good track record and clearly not espousing what one would hope were ‘British’ values.
Indeed, YES the coward who set out to attack Niall Warry, Junius and myself has accidentally and clusively shot UKIP not only in both feet but right between the eyes in drawing attention so clearly to their extensive criminal record and record as liars, cheats and cowards acting it seems in self interest and greed.
“often without sources – again,”
Perhaps rather than a cowardly ’round house’ swipe the cowardly spokesman seeking to mislead in defence of UKIP leadership could site a few examples as I am morally certain that Junius and I have ALWAYS provided accurate information despite the squeals of protestation from UKIP’s leadership claque and its parasites – we have consistently provided Case Numbers and OLAF investigation numbers – we have always endeavoured, unlike this odious coward, to provide corroborative factual details.
Many will recall the screams of derision and endless lies from UKIP’s claque in defence of Tom Wise’s criminality and the fact that UKIP kept him as a member and an MEP right up until Tom Wise’s refusal to renew his membership immediately before the elec tions at the end of his period in elected office despite the serial lies to the contrary, frequently on the media, by Nigel Farage and UKIP staff members and officers.
Many will also remember that Tom Wise spent £8,000 of the money he had stolen on solicitors, seeking to suppress the facts and deny the truth by legal effortys taken against me for telling the truth and providing the facts that eventually saw him sentenced to 2 years in prison for the fraud he entered into with the help of Lindsay Jenkins, who was fortunate enough to have the case against her dropped when Tom Wise eventually pleaded guilty!
Although the cowardly commentator implies sources aren’t provided the sources of the facts published regarding Derek Clark’s abuse of public funds, together with the OL:AF case numbers were provided – That Derek Clark lied to try to claim it was not true speaks volumes of the standards of integrity of UKIP and its leadership – not content with his fraud Derek Clark compounded the crime with lies to his regional committee, the members and the electorate and despite bringing UKIP into disrepute in the most clear of ways UKIP’s values indicated they were happy that he was a tyheif who had been ordered to repay money he had fraudulently spent and also UKIP seem happy to have a proven liar as an MEP and member of their leadership.
I guess with liars and cheats like Mick McGough, Stuart Agnew, David Bannerman, Gerard Batten, Nigel Farage etc. on UKIP’s leadership team Derek Clark is just another grubby little liar!
I look forward to the coward providing facts to back what would seem to be a very dishonest attempt to mislead people and corruptly and dishonestly defame Niall Warry, Junius and myself.
“I accept that it’s up to us forum members to protest about rule violations”
Though in view of just how corrupt Anthony Butcher’s UKIP controlled forum is I find it unlikely the coward will be called to account for his dishonest and corrupt attempt to mislead.
“but those rules in particular seem to be broken frequently on the UKIP pages”
& clearly it is the liars, cheats, low lifes and cowards seeking to justify the ineptitude, criminality and serial offences of UKIP that most frequently exploit the ‘convenient’ laxity.
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Regards,

Greg_L-W.

ADDITION on 27-Aug-2012:

Astonishingly as if to prove the utter stupidity and duplicity of the original poster showing the calliber of UKIP’s low life leadership claque – The coward who made that post clarified their dishonesty and reason for being too ashamed of their behaviour to put their name to their silly and duplicitous comments seeking to try to justify their original idiocy by posting this response:

“Mr Warry, your point could just as easily apply to Mr Lance-Watkins as it would Mr Farage. And just to prove my point, Mr Lance-Watkins has gone off on a rant about me on his sordid site. He appears to not want lights shone too brightly on his actions and wishes to belittle his critics. A bit like your allegations against Mr Farage. Does THAT ring any bells with you sir?”

 

Little wonder so few people consider UKIP of any relevance in British domestic  politics!

To further fisk and clarify the cowardly fool:

“Mr Warry, your point could just as easily apply to Mr Lance-Watkins as it would Mr Farage.”

Let us get a few FACTS in place:

Firstly I do not hold elected office.

Secondly I have never been ordered to repay money to the public purse which I have used fraudulently or unlawfully.

i seek no public office.

I make no pretence or representing others.

I am not a highly remunerated public servant.

I have never trousered £2million of public money.

I have never held bank accounts in tax havens for personal gain.

I have NEVER alied myself with racists, anti Jewish, anti homosexual, criminals nor sought personal financial gain from the pretence of representing others!

 

Perhaps the duplicitous critic could try to show what the relevance of his cowardly posting is – or will he continue to mislead whilst sheltering in anonymity?

 

“And just to prove my point, Mr Lance-Watkins has gone off on a rant about me on his sordid site.”

Indeed I havecommented as I hold such dishonesty in absolute contempt and find cowardice of that ilk to be a dishonourable obscenity.

 

“He appears to not want lights shone too brightly on his actions”

Clearly a lie – I have repeatedly invited investigation and any light that can expose the corruption that is endemic in UKIP leadership and its claque.

Further it is a well known FACT that i ALWAYS post in my own name and will stand by every comment I make in the context it is made.

Further I have made it absolutely clear that I encourage the bright light of truth and fact and have NEVER wittingly or deliberately misled anyone and will ALWAYS make correction of ANY error of fact of any significance that is brought to my attention.

EVERYONE about whom I write or have exposed for their corruption, dishonesty or betrayal has a full right to respond via the comments and I have NEVER ONCE blocked a comment from someone on the grounds that it disagreed with the facts I have posted.

I do moderate postings to ensure sources, criminal investigation numbers and the like are provided to substantiate allegations they have made and to moderate libellous or gratuitous ad hominem attacks on private individuals and/or foul and abusive language or comment.

 

I have NEVER blocked a comment made on the grounds that it chose to disagree with any posting I have made.

 

I will correct and clarify ANY error brought to my attention by anyone who is honourable enough to provide substantiation of their identity and the comments they make.

 

May I also remind the duplicitous and dishonest commenter that I am clearly on public record as willing to meet with anyone to discuss the issues and have repeatedly offered to attend any public cross examination of the facts I have presented and the details and opinions I have made public.

Any time, any place try to shine the light you so clearly fear – minded of the limitations of distance and time and such detail as I have openly published.

 

Unlike the cowards in UKIP I have NOTHING to hide in shame and believe repetition of the facts exposing abuse of public office and the public purse in self interest is the duty of any honourable British citizen.

 

“and wishes to belittle his critics.”

It is hard to belittle someone who is clearly as dishonourable and dishonest as the original poster – the very comments made by such cowards clearly show they are beneath contempt and there is absolutely no need or way to belittle such low lifes!

 

“A bit like your allegations against Mr Farage. Does THAT ring any bells with you sir?”

As any rational reader will appreciate, when in command of the facts and in judgement of the truth and honourable behaviour it is clear for whom the ‘Bell Tolls – It tolls for the dishonourable, the cowards and the liars who seek to distort the truth sheltering their shame in anonymity.

 

I trust this clarifies my contempt for such cowardly and contemptible individuals who so befoul the aims of genuine EUrosceptics and drag the reputation of UKIP into the gutters they inhabit.

 

Let us have as much of that light of truth and clear facts as is possible to expose the corruption of UKIP and styart the essential clean up if UKIP is not to remain utterly irelevant in British domestic politics.

 

G.L-W.

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What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.
Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that goal of unanimity in aim!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

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Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

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Seems Mike Nattrass has finally Quit UKIP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/08/2012

Seems Mike Nattrass  has finally Quit UKIP

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Seems Mike Nattrass  has finally Quit UKIP – having quite some time ago rejected the pretence at leadership of Nigel Farage he and Trevor Colman quit his sordid extremist EFD Group of racists, xenophobes and EUroPhiles seeking reform & rewards!!

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I had always believed only a clown would try to ride two horses – first we had the gullible fool Robert Kilroy Silk who fell for the lies of Nigel Farage, who promised him leadership of UKIP, to get him to support the party – A promise not within Farage’s ‘gift’. For a brief period RKS tried to ride two horses but ended up falling off both.
Similarly we had the liar and fraud David Bannerman currying favour with both The Tories & UKIP to gain a seat as an MEP – Farage grabbed at the publicity  but Bannerman seeing his lies had worn thin and with an OLAF inquiry into his fraudulent use of public money fled to The Tories seeking preferment for his betrayal.
Bannerman will shortly find having betrayed one party and then the other he ends up rejected by both as dishonourable, duplicitous, corrupt and totally untrustworthy.
Now, despite other such clowns willing to ride any horse to be on the gravy train such as Marta Andreassen, who touted herself around various parties and lied to get herself on the gravy train.
Let us consider Mike Nattrass!
He Does Have Some Political Sense
I’m told!
I note after various efforts to drag UKIP’s reputation in the mire he did have one act of integrity and refused to follow the demands of his Party leader Nigel Farage and quit the vile Pan EU EFD Political Group with its racism, xwenophobia, criminals, anti Judaism, anti homosexual and other extremist practices.
There was hope that Mike Nattrass was finally acting honourably and would be thrown out of UKIP together with his chum, the near invisible and utterly irrelevant self serving Trevor Coleman as clever Trevor had also stood down from the odious Farage group.
Nikki Sinclaire had acted exactly the same but shown leadership in quitting the group and was thrown out of UKIP – however it was later established in Court that this was more a matter of anti homosexuality, petty jealousy and inadequacy on the part of Farage, Bloom and UKIP – so found the Court!
UKIP, Farage & Bloom were found guilty and you may well remember the published apology to Nikki Sinclaire in an effort to deffer High Court Action by her against these named individuals and organisations.
Were Nattrass & Coleman banned from the party – NO, there was a classic act of different standards Sinclaire was banned from the party but whether due to gender or some other terms the same punishment was not meter out to Coleman or Nattrass, and nor it seems was such a stance taken against the Spanish MEP when she openly called for Farage’s resignation in an open letter on the grounds of his incompetence that had led to the catastrophic results he achieved in the local elections!
Now I note Mike Nattrass isn’t even a member of UKIP he has opted out with a wimper rather than a fanfare of integrity – he has quietly moved on and is now the leader of another party and clearly he can not lead one party whilst being a member of another – this is even clearer an effort to hedge his bets than Oddly Ratkinson’s position with his own group when he made a bid to become leader of UKIP!
I was interested to note Mike Nattrass’ new party as listed on The Electoral Commission’s web site at:
If YOU find the Commission’s web site too beset with jargon and interlinking pages perhaps this screen capture will help:

So its official then!

Mike Nattrass has betrayed the electorate and quit UKIP but seems not to have been man enough to tell people – do we now expect some half baked threat of legal action claiming that I have libelled him like the fool he made of himself threatening The Sunday Times when they published the details of him being under investigation by OLAF, which he was!

Just as Mike Nattrass is listed as leader of his own political party.

Presumably he has conveniently forgotten to inform his electorate and maybe not even his staff!

I wonder what Nigel Farage’s view on this little chaps having set up in opposition is!

I doubt Mike will think it worth coming back from his long summer holiday in his villa in Portugal, where he spends much of his time rather than work in his constituency to Leave-The-EU, to promote his new party.

I wonder, in view of the name of Mike Nattrass’ new party, whether when he does emerge to do some work if he will follow the example of Nigel Farage and try to piggy back on the efforts made by Nikki Sinclaire to ensure a full debate on the aim to Leave-The-EU in Parliament or the gathering of a consequential number of signatures to keep the concept of an IN / OUT Referendum to Leave-The-EU.

Of course had UKIP been fit for purpose it might be wise to force the issue of a referendum rather than just keep embarrassing the government and keeping the flame of self determination, as a fundamental human right, alight – as Nikki Sinclaire most clearly has.

Is Nattrass hedging his bets to try to steal Sinclaire’s achievements to which he has, in fairness, contributed public money he had access to but beyond that his study in fence sitting seems over with his new party!
Clearly due to the abject failure of UKIP, particularly without competent, trustworthy or professional leadership, the chances of winning an IN / OUT Leave-The-EU Referendum are very low.
UKIP has failed to get the message out to the electorate and in 20 years have failed to even provide the reassurance of a sound exit and survival strategy – UKIP under Farage’s misguidance has even allied itself with extremists in EU politics who amongst other things welcome membership of The EU and seek to make some reforms!
I look forward to reading Mike Nattrass’ new party manifesto – it should be quite funny with his mangled English and endless anger at anyone who dares to question him or his lack of logic!
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Regards,

Greg_L-W.

UPDATE 15-Aug-2012 11:00hrs.:

Nikki Sinclaire has NOT been thrown out of UKIP merely forced out of her elected office of UKIP MEP and lied about, bullied and attacked by UKIP leadership and its parasites.
Nikki Sinclaire now sits as an Independent MEP and NOT a UKIP MEP and is thus to all intent and purpose thrown out of UKIP though her membership continues all be it in name only.

I gather there are claims that Mike Nattrass is similarly still a UKIP member though he too sits as an independent MEP independent of UKIP with Nikki Sinclairte & Trevor Coleman.

I understand Mike Nattrass, presumably to maintain Farage’s income is allowed to set up and register a political party in opposition to UKIP – or as UKIP would claim of anyone seeking to Leave-The-EU but not under their rather sordid banner of corruption and lies – A Spoiler Party!
(as the UKFirstParty was deemed; despite its honourable intentions to provide an open honest and accountable democratic party to Leave-The-EU without the corruption that is omni present in UKIP & for some rendered UKIP unfit for purpose such that an alternative was clearly needed, particularly with liars and cheats like Mick McGough, David Bannerman etc. in The Eastern Region – Though I question how successful they were in the light of the involvement of Peter Cole, Tom Wise & Bruce Lawson or the undertakings of Trevor Colman, though most of the others would seem to have been unaware of this and of honest intent.)

Clearly whatever the paperwork may claim it is clearly dishonest for UKIP to claim Nattrass & Sinclaire are members in anything but name, as they with Trevor Coleman have rejected the leadership of UKIP, and refuse to sit with UKIP or associate with UKIP’s extremist, racist, anti Jewish, anti homosexual and anti Islamist group which includes various individuals with criminal records for assault, Holocaust Denial and similar offences and a number who have been found guilty of fraudulent use of public money and/or are still under investigation for same.

Please accept my apology for stating the realities rather than the minisculism and pedantry of the internal machinations of UKIP & misleading detail 😉

On the same logic let us remember that Tom Wise UKIP MEP was similarly NEVER thrown out of UKIP and despite what were outright lies from Nigel Farage, repeatedly made on the media – Tom Wise remained in UKIP as a member, and was asked by letter to renew his membership in the February of his last year as an MEP, responding with a written refusal, which we have published elsewhere on our blogs.

My failure to provide every last detail will clearly be misrepresented by the liars and scoundrels in UKIP to desperately imply I have deliberately lied – I apologise for stating the facts in insufficient detail and clearly there was no intent to mislead, as the detail did not materially alter the facts.

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UKIP’s immature, sex obsessed would be Police Chief!

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UKIP’s immature, sex obsessed would be Police Chief!

Well I guess he won’t feel lonely amongst UKIP’s imature sex obsessed leadership with a leader who featured with a prostitute in a double page article and the antics of Godfrey Bloom who was arrested for intercourse with a black prostitute on a car bonnet in the street – pleading diplomatic imunity as a UKIP MEP & British politician!

Yet again UKIP, in choosing this silly little man as a candidate, shows it is unfit for purpose in being unable, it seems, to differentiate between Libertarian and libertine AGAIN!

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Hi,
we have written of UKIP’s folly in association with this foolish little man previously – just put his name in the search box at the top of the right sidebar!
Now he has dragged UKIP’s reputation further into the mire with Private Eye publishing their contempt for him, his behaviour and UKIP.
Also:

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Police commissioner hopeful invited constituent to ‘bunga bunga’ party

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A UKIP councillor seeking the party’s nomination for Northumbria Police Commissioner invited a constituent to a “Bunga Bunga” party — a phrase used by disgraced former Italian premier Silvio Berlusconi to describe alleged sex parties.

David Potts, who sits on South Tyneside council, bragged on Twitter about his “W&S” and “bunga bunga” parties, and even invited a member of the public to one.

But Potts has denied attending sex parties, claiming that “W&S” stood for “wine & sandwiches” rather than “wives & swingers”. He said:

“My understanding is that [bunga bunga]  is merely a social gathering. The phrase is used among my circle. I may have misunderstood its perceived meaning.”

As well as his, erm, recreational activities, Potts has acquired a reputation as something of an online thug, attacking the council as a “poxy backwater” and making derogatory comments about council employees.

Potts also upset fellow councillors, when he asked porn star Mercedes Ashley to congratulate a colleague on being re-elected.

“As far as I am aware,” said the borough’s only Conservative councillor Jeff Milburn, “I have not been contacted by any American porn stars.”

To view the original of this article about this sordid little man & his make believe friends’ comments CLICK HERE

You will of course note that this odious little chap is ‘SEEKING THE UKIP NOMINATION’ it does not claim he IS the candidate.

Unfortunately in another region the bufoon Godfrey Bloom, a UKIP MEP!, has thrown his hat into the ring, granting every opportunity to befoul the name of UKIP & the reputation of The EUroSceptic movement! – which makes even more of a mockery of the selection of Police Chiefs than that his rival, IF he gets UKIP’s nomination, is John Presscot – though they have similar track records for immature and irresponsible philandry in public office but at least Prescot, however repugnant one may find him, he has held down responsible public office!

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Hi,

as a result of a phone call to my home I received subsequently the following eMail, which I have published in full as it was an attempt by David Potts to alter what I had posted and with no request for privacy. Since he is a local councillor his contaact data will be readily available from other sources so I have mader no effort to conceal them:

From: David Potts [mailto:davidpotts101@googlemail.com]
Sent: 05 September 2012 13:22
To: Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com
Subject: Your website

Dear Mr Lance-Watkins

I did just attempt to telephone you to speak to you about this page on your website http://www.zimbio.com/Bunga+Bunga/articles/cgSa3otbPgy/UKIP+immature+sex+obsessed+Police+Chief. I spoke to a lady who was very helpful and took my number.

The accuracy of the article is, in my view, not of an adequate standard. I hope that you will kindly consider adjusting or removing the article. I am happy to give you an exclusive interview, if you feel that this will help remedy the matter.

Please be aware that this is merely a polite request and I have no intention of taking legal proceedings. I am a great believer in free speech and I have a lot of respect for bloggers such as yourself. I just hope you will permit me to put my side of the story forward.

Many thanks

Yours sincerely

David Potts (Cllr)
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To which I have replied:

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eMail: Greg_L-W (Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com)

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Hi,

 

Sorry – I tried to call you back as soon as I returned #0796 – 0544 716

 

I regret it may be a transcription error so do send me the number & I will call as soon as possible.

 

Your concerns are noted and of course I will grant a right of reply and in the interim I have added this correspondence to the end of the blog in question for added clarity – I trust this assists in amelioration of your claims in the interim.

 

The post in question is:

https://ukip-vs-eukip.com/2012/08/09/ukips-immature-sex-obsessed-would-be-police-chief/

 

You will note there are other posts which comment on you which you may also wish to respond to – these can be found by use of the search facility on my blog.

 

You will appreciate that as I am a long term supporter of the original stated aims of UKIP and ethics in public office, my efforts are made to seek a root and branch clean-up of the unarguably corrupt UKIP, particularly wiithout competent leadership or ethical individuals in its leadership team – A fact that you will have found all too apparent if you take a genuine interest in UKIP as a vehicle to Leave-The-EU and not just a bolt hole for failed politicaians seeking their own prefferment and enrichment!

 

The aim is a party of some gravitas which is fit for purpose and worthy of a vote!

 

I do try to ensure accuracy in all my posts and grant right of reply on any polite and reasoned grounds – as in your instance. You will of course note that I rarely take the comments of cowards sheltering, what is frequently their dishonesty & personal ambitions, behind pseudonyms but when identifiable individuals repy I always seek to assist to ensure accuracy.

You may be interested to note my undertaking at:

https://ukip-vs-eukip.com/ensuring-accuracy-the-truth

 

Also you may be interested to note that in the literally 1,000s of postings related to UKIP I have never ONCE been found to have deliberately misled or stated a consequential error of fact – despite the army of parasites seeking reward in UKIP who, together with lawyers read my blog on a very regular basis both for their own gain and also in their salaried capacities I am reliably informed.

I have ammended every single error of fact that has been brought to my attention which is to date about 3 and all three were VERY minor. IF the facts regarding you, which werte sourced from a political web site where, incidentally, those who endeavoured to defend your behaviour clearly did you more harm than good – IF you can show substantial error please accept my apologies as I did seek and found corroboration on various web sites, indicating the strong likelihood of the veracity of the facts I then published.

As someone who is constantly attacked and lied about by the low lifes in UKIP, both named and cowards, I can well comprehend the possibility of total drivel accumulating on the internet as with that about me by stalkers acting in malicious self interest like Mick McGough, Matt Quinn, Belinda MacKenzie, Annabell Fuller, Gerard Batten, David Icke, Mark Croucher, Douglas Denny and other clearly dishonest individuals – it is a sad reflection on the ethics and integrity of UKIP that so many are of their ranks!

Some Government they would make!!!

 

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Nigel Farage, UKIP & Chris Huhne’s seat + Corby!

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Farage pondering standing for UK parliament?

 
Article | July 18, 2012 – 11:04am | By Andy Carling

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Specualation is growing that Nigel Farage, leader of the euroskeptic UK Independence Party, is considering contesting a seat in the UK parliament, but it’s not straightforward.

There could be a by-election in Eastleigh, a constituency that falls in Farage’s seat, but the member of parliament is former MEP, Chris Huhne, a Liberal Democrat. Huhne is facing prosecution over an allegation that the MP asked his wife to take the blame for a speeding ticket. The case is expected to be before the court in October or November.

Should Huhne lose, it is widely expected that he will resign his parliamentary seat, forcing a by-election.

The seat has been closely fought between the Liberals and the Conservatives. Coalition government has not been kind to the Liberals, their support has dropped in the opinion polls and a large share of their activists have left the party, leaving the local Conservatives with an opportunity to capture a seat from their coalition parners.

However, UKIP may feel that they can capture a large part of the vote on a campaign based around an in/out referendum on the EU.

Farage contested the seat in 1994, where he lost to the Liberal candidate by over 23,000 votes. He did manage to beat the Monster Raving Loony Party’s legendary leader, ‘Screaming Lord Sutch’ by 169 votes.

Farage will certainly beat his ’94 vote and he has been actively courting the Tory right in a capmaign to force UK PM David Cameron to hold an EU membership referendum, even a close result in a by-election would seriously concern senior Tories and may manouvere them into making such a referendum a manifesto commitment for the nect general election. Farage would not need to win to ‘win’.

It would not be an easy contest, for UKIP has never come close to winning a UK seat. speaking to local press, Farage said, ““I have absolutely no idea what is going to happen with Chris Huhne’s case but if Chris is found not to have told the truth then it is clear that his position as MP for this town will be untenable. So we face the prospect perhaps of an Eastleigh by-election – it could happen in October or November this year, perhaps spring next year but be assured if and when there is an election we will give it everything we have got.”

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Hi,

I note there is likely to be a by election in Corby & Northants before that in Eastleiggh and UKIP has a right gaggle of rogues to field – be that the drunk who is Regional Organiser Don Ransom or the liar Derek Clark who glibbly lied about me when I exposed his criminality and then lied to his regional committee to hide the fact that OLAF had found him guilty of fraudulently using over £30K from claims on the public purse a crime for which Tom Wise was sentenced to 2 years in prison!

Alternatively they have an ex military chappy who was qualified as a barrister but no longer practices as he runs a B&B on his son in law’s estate trading off the son in law’s Baronetcy – I gather he doesn’t practice law having fallen foul of it himself!

Facing a challenge that he should resign if UKIP’s candidate is not within 5,000 of the winner Farage has all to gain though is unlikely to accept the challenge as he will wish to blame others for the abject failure of UKIP in British deomestic elections.

However it could prove a useful trial run for Eastleigh as heaven only knows UKIP desperately needs some serious campaigning rather than stunts, smears and sneering at which they are so good and now that they are hugely better funded by both gambling and gamblers the expenses will be a dodle particularly as so few of UKIP’s MEPs have ever made any meaningful donations to the party beyond self interest paymentys to get themselves elected!

Let us see. But let us not forget Farage climbed on the Huhne band wagon early on with claims he KNEW that Huhne had committed the crime as they were on the same plane returning from their weekly jolly in The EU at public expense – as I recall this was a claim he was unable to substantiate later when called on to do so – was he softening up Eastleigh with one of his publicity grabbing stunts?

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

So let us see if Farage responds to Alan Hardy’s challenge rather more rapidly than David Cameron responded to Farage’s challenge.

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Not just Cameron who is faced by a Challenge!

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It seems Nigel Farage who controls UKIP & the pan EU political group of The EFD would seem to be faced by his very own challenge!!

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with the resignation of Louise Mensch from the Tory Party in Corby & East Northants just a few hours ago comes a clear challenge for UKIP’s leadership
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One is forced to wonder whether Nigel Farage will be as lax in responding to the challenge this has given rise to, as Cameron has been in responding to the challenge from The Farage Party over a debate and possibly for the very same reasons – Farage probably believes that Alan Hardy is irrelevant and going nowhere.
Here is Alan Hardy’s not unreasonable and clear challenge – which I might add is not without fairly general support, in loose terms and principle, amongst the more active and brighter supporters of UKIP – though the small army in the UKIP leadership claque, funded by the largess in the gift of Farage as many are, may well see their route to the gravy train challenged!

Dear Mr Farage,
 
You will by now have heard that the above member of parliament has applied for the Stewardship of the Chiltern Hundreds. This, of course, paves the way for a by-election.
 
We have all heard your recent boast that UKIP has overtaken the Lib-Dems to become the third most popular political party. According to you, it seems, UKIP is riding high in the polls and, presumably, it is just a matter of time before we have representation in the House of Commons under your leadership. No doubt UKIP will be fielding a candidate in the forthcoming by-election with high expectation of, at long last, make its presence felt and, in so doing, vindicating you.
 
Now it is no secret that you and your sycophants (Crowther, Greaves, Duffy, Parkin to name but a few) would, inter alia, dance a jig if I left the UKIP. I, on the other hand, am remaining a member against the day when it has leadership worthy of support and respect. Well I have a proposition for you: If the UKIP candidate in the above by-election comes within 5,000 votes of the winner then I will resign my membership. If, however, he/she does not, then you resign your post as party leader. 
 
I look forward to your reply.
 
REGARDS
 
ALAN HARDY

Indeed the Corby & East Northants seat could well be the perfect proving ground to judge by the lies and duplicity of the low life traitor UKIP has for an MEP in the region – Derek Clark!Let us also remember they have a very highly paid Regional Organiser who boasted of his net salary of £800 a week when hauled before the Courts for utter irresponsibility as a drunk driver – one would think a taxi driver would know better than to behave thus!

At least organisation would be no problem! It is also in one of UKIP’s star regions as it was, almost electing 3 MEPs in 2004, though with Derek Clark & Ron Ransom milking the gravy train for all it was worth the membership has somewhat collapsed, and of course Clark was found guilty of defrauding the public purse and ordered to repay the money he had taken which may well not help.
Ransome will have course have all the time in the world on his hands to Organise Regionally and in Corby & Northants specifically with Derek Clark currently away on one of his long holidays and no longer being on The Regional Committee having stompped off in a huff with both his wife and Derek Clark in contempt of UKIP electorate and belief in democracy being unable to explain their corruption, dishonesty, lies and defamatory comments it seems!
However am I not right that there is a worthy contender for the seat in the guise of a chap who lays claim to being ex Military, a barrister by training, though I understand his bankruptcy precludes him from plying his trade! His connections are, I am reliably informed, impeccable with a Baronett for a son in law and a thriving bed and breakfast business on his estate!
With all these choices open for UKIP to clearly see Farage put our money where his mouth is we can but hope he rises to the challenge.
This could possibly be the springboard to Government for Nigel Farage – not licking the boots of the Tories as some makeweight junior partner bought off with an easy seat, but in his own right, via contesting Chris Huhne’s seat in Eastleigh – for many will remember the speed and alacrity with which Farage stepped up to the plate to denounce Huhne in the first place!
At least Alan Hardy delivers his own challenges on ground he prepared, unlike Farage following in the footsteps of Nikki Sinclaire’s challenge to Downing Street with 100,000+ signatures, that forced a full scale debate in Parliament, on the issue of Leaving-The-EU – she even attended the delivery in her own ‘Ad-van’ a style emulated by Farage though Farage failed to present with cross party support and various MPs!
The Corby & East Northants by election could just be the springboard to turn UKIP fortunes around from being utterly irrelevant to being of some significance for let’s face it a vaulte face would not be out of character when you consider how clearly the Farage Party denounced The Olympics yet how vociferously they now ride on the coattails of success – Will we shortly see Farage selling out UKIP for his own rewards and actively campaigning for Boris Johnson as his new leader!!
We understand that Paul Nuttall is standing in the wings ready to do a knife job on Farage the second he feels he could get away with it and it is for this reason he has been criss crossing the country willing to attend the opening of an envelope to garner popularity with the mass of dullards and politically infantile new supporters of The Farage Party – Particularly if the testament of Jasna Badzak exposing Gerard Batten is, as it seems, founded in veracity as she attests.
Batten might at one time have hoodwinked some that he might have been a contender but his association with criminals, the extremists and his efforts to incite racial hatred as shown by his anti Islamic tracts indicate must surely preclude anyone of any moral fiber supporting his though he can count on support of those without morality or ethics, particularly amongst UKIP MEPs and leadership clique and its claque.
Let us see if Farage will respond positively & rapidly to the challenge or lay himself open to the sneering and posturing we have seen him mete out to David Cameron for not jumping when he clicks his fingers!It is interesting to see The Guardian treading its usual billious line for the left, and rubbing salt in the Tory wounds at the loss of Louise Mensch – when they were giving it large a day or two ago, selectively promoting UKIP as a popular partner for the Tories!

Hardly, when one sees their risible results in British domestic elections, as they are hardly relevant, with less than 30 seats of any consequence, elected out of some 19,500 available and let us accept that many of those elected are more of a liability than a benefit to UKIP!

Realistically they are of no meaningful consequence politically other than an EU protest vote where they achived their route to corruption by the orchestration of the farce of Nigel Farage’ own personal Reichstag Fire moment followed by a faux Crystel Nacht aided by the odious Mark Thatcher and others of similar ilk as they built up The BNP to two seats in The EU and defamed and denigrated to gain stature at the expense of decent men and women – including Tories of some note.

As it is realised that the route ahead to Leave-The-EU is via Article 50 UKIP’s role will become less and less significant and more obviously so as even after 20 years UKIP has no clear exit and survival strategy and clearly little understanding of the complexities of revoking The ECA or 1972 and the subsequent difficulties – Their only defence being to defame and denigrate those who have some understanding of the matter – not to enhance UKIP’s position towards a concept of Leave-The-EU but in some idiotic self interest sold to their willing dupes to ensure Farage and his cliques well being and self enrichment it would seem..

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UKIP Represented on Hard Talk – Farage not working!

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UKIP Represented on Hard Talk – Farage not working!
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UKIP Represented on Hard Talk – Farage not working!
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They don’t even have an exit and survival strategy!

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Nigel Farage is appearing on TV on the Hard Talk programme, being interviewed by stephen Sakur, which I understand is showing on Monday 6th August at at 03:30, 08:30, 15:30 and 20:30hrs. on BBC World Service.

This is I believe the second time he has been on the program and his previous time was something of an embarrassment as his interview responses were aggresive, interupting, dishonest and riddled with lies.

I fear we can expect more of the same with his sneering style, cheeky chappy blame everyone else, tendency to slander, lie and libel with little credibility for lack of gravitas as he invents policy on the hoof.
Would that it was otherwise as UKIP supporters like myself greatly value his INPUT when he has a leader to shelter behind to tidy up the mess he makes.
With UKIP leaderless in any real terms and represented across the internet by an abusive, dishonest and vituperative claque – many of whom are clearly ashamed of their own behaviour and shelter behind fake identities as they mount attacks on any supporter of UKIP who wishes to see it cleaned up and made fit for purpose who dares to expose the endemic corruption, hypocrisy and inept criminality of members of its leadership team.

The examples shown of how UKIP would behave if given one scintilla of authority begar belief and show better than any other method just how in their current form they are unfit for purpose and hugely aiding The EU in demeaning the EUroSceptic movement.

In an era where kicking a ball and running around in circles or making a complete prat of oneself on some sleazy media show is greatly adulated indeed the likes of Farage and his clique will garner enough support to continue enriching themselves and rewarding a claque of minders to defend them by seeking to defame those who espouse the issue of Leave-The-EU using grown up concepts.

Dressing up as chickens, racing around in a 1950s scout car and pretending it is a tank and other idiotic lightweight stunts may gain publicity but it has clearly sabotaged the credibility of UKIP’s intellectual foundations – not to mention the damage to their moral foundations as they whore and drink and steal their way around – Their political antics are all too similar to the school inadequate who seeks to curry popularity by writing rude words on the blackboard and mimicing the teacher behind their back!
So expect sneering, insults & policy on the hoof!
As results to date would seem to indicate the picture says it all as The Farage Party antics ‘doesn’t seem to be working’!
IF we try again later let us hope great changes have been made and UKIP has a leader of competence, gravitas and ability and that UKIP has been professionalised.
As one wag stated on Anthony Butcher’s UKIP controlled Forum, in response to the question ‘What Does UKIP Stand For?’.
His response was:
‘The “vision” button on UKIP’s website shows clearly what UKIP stands for , how it sees it happening, what UKIP is doing to achieve that, what it sees the set up will be after withdrawal from EU and what UKIP’s post withfrawal role will be.
If you find it let me know’.
Personally I have wasted much time on UKIP web site trying to find their ‘Exit & survival strategy’ relative to The EU as although they say the words clearly talk is inadequate and there is absolutely no evidence of walking the walk!

I wonder if Farage will present better for the party he totally controls as his own gravy boat on the gravy train!

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UKIP boasts of being all bull …

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They even have the bull as their conference logo!

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as you may know UKIP leadership, in their collective wisdom (ie. Nigel Farage told them) have decided to hold their annual Farage Feste in Birmingham.
They even have a logo for the event but it is rather unclear as to whether the bull is the Bull symbol of Birmingham.
or
Perhaps the Bull symbol of The EU where mythology has it Zeus dishonestly disguised himself as a bull on which his daughter EUropa rode to her wedding to find she had been conned and was raped by her Father!
So very apt an allegory of how Britain was duped by the bull from Edward Heath, Geoffrey Rippon and their fellow political elite & civil servants to csarry us into a muylti partnered marriage where we were raped by those very partners on an ongoing basis.
or
Perhaps The Bull of Merrill Lynch led to the slaughter and served up cheap on the plate of Bank of America defaulting to its shareholder, investors and members due to incompetence, dishonesty and the over payment of its self important directors and staff. Not to mention the criminality of some of its leadership team and its claque!
or
Perhaps it is more prosaic and the bull just represents the same old UKIP bull peddled year in, year out where supporters are told the party will professionalise, the membership has hugely grown, the polls show we are on the verge of controlling Government, just one more push is needed which members must fund whilst MEPs bank their money in tax havens and fund their chums and family.
Either way I guess you can count on ‘Bull’.
The same old, same old from Mr. ‘Fighting Bull’ and doesn’t he keep repeating the same old speeches, soundbites and cheeky chappie excuses – Many tend to call it Bull Sh1t.
One of Gerard Batten’s only comments of value was as you will remember:
To site the event in Birmingham is almost funny as UKIP has been one string of leadership disasters in The West Midlands facing possible High Court action if Nikki Sinclaire MEP, no longer in UKIP, eventually decides to proceed against them for their anti homosexual, biased and bullying dishonesty etc.
We gather their branch chairman Jon Ison is under investigation by the police we suspect on possible charges of colluding to pervert the course of justice and wasting police time, which seems to embroil UKIP, Farage and others as Farage and others have been questioned by the police relative to Jon Ison.
Then of course the only remaining UKIP MEP in what was one of their flagship regions has rejected leadership by Nigel Farage and like Nikki Sinclaire resigned from Nigel Farage’s little money spinner the odious EFD Group of racists, bigots and other lees of the EU political gutter.
We also gather there has been a notable collapse in membership of any caliber in the West Midlands – much in line with the collapse in the East Midlands due to the lies of Derek Clark to cover his theft of money from the public purse supported by his hugely over paid minder Ron Ranson as Regional Organiser for UKIP.
A strange place to choose for a conference one might think particularly in view of so much bull!.

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UKIP: Jon Ison continues his destruction in the West Midlands

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Monday, 05-Aug-2012
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Monday, 30 July 2012
The section published by Junius on 30-Jul-2012 was published first at CLICK HERE

UKIP: Jon Ison continues his destruction in the West Midlands

 
 
 
A West Midlands regional membership spread sheet, showing the variations in membership numbers by month shown to the Junius team reveal that its Solihull and Meriden Branch chairman John Ison has set a new party record in losing his association a staggering 16 members since April 2012, that’s nearly a 30% decrease in just 4 months!
 
Ison has resided over the collapse of the (until recently) largest branch in the West Midlands! Before he took over the branch was thriving had 100+ members, BUT is now down to a pitiful 45 members. (So a near loss of 65 members over his entire chairmanship of just over 12 months!)
 
In the same period all branch activity as stopped, before ISON took over the branch it had 17 candidates in place for the 2010 local elections. This year he didn’t put up a single candidate!
 
Proof that more and more people are distancing themselves from this vindictive and largely untrustworthy individual !
 
 
 
 
Mr Ison now appears to ruling his sinking ship with an iron fist to hold some level of position within UKIP. Aware of his own local unpopularity Ison has refused on hold an AGM for the branch fearing that a vote of no confidence will be issued and passed against him!
 
Constitutionally this is not allowed though how much longer will UKIP let it continue???????? Will the West Midlands RO step in a either to dissolve the branch or demand an EGM to hold the yearly elections as per party rules ?

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Hi,


isn’t Gordon Parkin having the same result in his region for much the same reasons? Also I do gather that other than their own personal interests Peter Reeve & Lisa Duffy are having a near catastrophic effect in their region and with UKIP Yoof!
Then of course we note the catastrophic behaviour of Derek Clark who has not only abused his office and the trust of the electorate but lied to his committee, his members and his electorate and been aided by his hugely over salaried staff Ron Ransome The Regional Organiser and his wife in their region.
The abysmal results and general embarrassment of the results in London are irrefutable and as London MEP Gerard Batten has shown the public clearly reject his racist views and incitement to race hate as he works with extremist groups and criminals to promote his personal values (or transparent lack of!).

That the party chairman was sat upon to carry the can and pretended to resign speaks volumes – that even this turned out to be a dishonest move and he is still publishing idiotic newsletters as Party Chairman is plain for all to see. Clearly no one of gravitas, competence or integrity sat on that particular ‘Chair’ with any plausible effect!

Clearly the party lacks any credible leadership or understanding of duty, integrity, morality or responsibility – Farage is on record stating UK elections dont matter! Well no, not to him as his pockets are stuffed with the bribes of The EU!

UKIP couldn’t care less about honesty, probity, democracy or basic common decency it is clear.

The party makes huge claims of leaps forward and expectations of glory yet imn reality they never seem to reflect in the ballot box.
There may well be more members than at their all time low, not so long ago, when estimates had them at 8>10,000 members based upon their turnout to vote and track record in internal elections.

That they have grown is hardly worthy of dispute as one need only look at the caliber of those who they put forward in leadership and the only means of defending themselves would seem not to be results or even sound argument but desperate efforts to denigrate and defame those supporters who dare to have a view contrary to their self interests on the gravy train.

Yes to be fair UKIP has gained a Town councillor in Lydney and describe his result to be based on ‘a strong turnout’ OK let us judge UKIP by their claims:

Alan Preest was elected.

Alan Preest would seem to have had to quit as a Tory County Councillor.

Alan Preest was seemingly forced to resign from The Tory Party.

Alan Preest is a common thief who has been unable to clear his name!

The actual ‘strong turnout’ was in fact only 22%

Thus, yes Alan Preest won but on a vote of indifference with only 16% of the electorate in his sector of this little town even bothering to vote!

Is linking their name with low lifes and liars, thieves and dissemblers, liars and cheats really the way forward for UKIP?

One need only consider those in positions of leadership and responsibility to know the party is of no consequence and going nowhere in its present state.

Mick McGough – Liar, Cheat, criminal (UKIP NEC)

Derek Clark Liar, Cheat, Thief, dishonourable and utterly dishonest (UKIP & EFD MEP)

Gerard Batten Dishonest, proven Liar, Racist, inciter of Racial Hatred, associate of The BNP, EDL, EFD & other extremist groups (UKIP & EFD MEP)

The list is long just look them up on the search tool on this blog or similarly at:
http://UKIP-vs-EUkip.com
or at:
https://ukip-vs-eukip.com/ukip-its-associates-details/

I am surprised ANYONE would want UKIP in its present form as their candidate, at a time when the majority of the population would support a party seeking to Leave-The-EU IKIP is still bumping along the bottom & of no relevance due to its behaviour.

I am a dedicated UKIP supporter but will ONLY vote for it when it is cleaned up and fit for purpose – which as Junius regularly shows, it is not!

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Thoughts on a way forward to Leave-The-EU

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Thoughts on a way forward to Leave-The-EU!

In the form of an open letter related to Leave-The-EU & debate of A Harrogate Agenda!

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as Dr. Richard North knows better than most: UKIP have absolutely no intellectual bottom!

UKIP in 20 years has NEVER had any kind of training program and is endlessly reactive with clearly no vision, no sign of Strategy EVER and notably no tactics.

One only needs to note the racist, xenophobic, criminal, anti Jewish, anti Islamic, anti homosexual links and track record of UKIP to realise they currently offer no part of the solution and have largely befouled and discreditted the EUroSceptic movement – is it any wonder that in terms of British politics UKIP have been a spectacular failure with under 30 people elected to any office of note out of some 19,500 available seats!

It really doesn’t matter what the polls say when very clearly the Ballot Boxes in real elections averages out between 3 > 6% – This places UKIP no closer to a say of ANY consequence at Westminster tyhan in 1993 when alan Sked founded the party.

Subsequent to getting 12 people on the gravy train in 2004 it is hard to identify a single solitary example of an achievement of any note towards the aim of Leave-The-EU – Just what is UKIP for? Beyond of course a small clique’s enrichment and a route to the gravy train for a small claque!

It is all very well for a few elderly men to hang onto their ill informed beliefs and the concept that EUroScepticism is some sort of hobby for their dotage!

The attacks and abuse from UKIP that is poured on the heads of anyone who dares to rattle their grubby little scams is legendary.

Yet again Richard and others have fallen foul of the thought police in UKIP who in their blinkered ignorance listen in adulation to their leader’s 3 cheeky chappie speaches and glib invention of policy on the hoof now that he has engineered a position of dictatorship in his personalised party, for lack of anyone of any consequence, competence or gravitas ever challenging him.

We who truly seek better governanance and an end to Britain’s membership of The EU must move on leaving UKIP behind in its sordid group of extremists, racists and pro EU reform rather than withdrawal of The EFD Group Farage has gathered to make more money!

The Harrogate Agenda is at least thinking about the problems and debating with a view to a way forward – on UKIP’s growth pattern over 20 years it will be at least 100 years before they could ever clearly be in a position of relevance towards the aim of Leave-The-EU or even seriously influence it!

There is a desperate need for a Harrogate Agenda or similar, a need for political thinking, a need for a very clear exiit and survival strategy relative to The EU. Britain has between 7 & 9 days of food supply and after that all food imports are a matter of EU contracts, it would not be possible to make a single international phone call after leaving The EU and France owns 80% of our power supply – It is not some childish concept of pass a paving bill to revoke The ECA and revoke our signature to The Treaty of Rome and its subsequent amendments.

Exit from The EU is only possible through implementation of the terms in the treaties our political elite have stitched us into. Simplistic revocation of our undertakings are bound under The Treaty of Vienna and international laws of consequence rather than the dictum of The EU – Just as The WTO’s consequential relevance is the style of implement we shall have to invoke to set aside any efforts of The EU to restrict Britain’s trade when we Leave-The-EU.

So may I suggest, since UKIP has no vision, plan, strategy or gravitas Press on with The Harrogate Agenda & ANY oportunity for serious debate – perhaps heaven forefend UKIP just might make some efforts to act with some integrity and intelligent debate rather than ‘defending their seats on the gravy train’ with any form of defamatory attack they can make on any true EUroRealist who dares to seek to point out that UKIP has proved it is unfit for purpose in its present state of amateurism and sham clearly aiding The EU in maintaining control of these United Kingdoms against the will of a clear majority of British peoples.

Good luck to Richard and those like him who seek to work towards a solution through debate and rigorous appraisal perhaps The Harrogate Agenda will be the vehicle for progress to change our governance – perhaps just one of the wheels on which that vehicle advances.

IF we fail to change our method of governance then even when we Leave-the-EU we will merely slide into the next political scam that rewards politicians with massive bribes from the public purse made up from the disproportionate taxes levied on their victims.

This is not about You or I nor about enrichment and jobs – this is about us and the future of our peoples, our values and our principles the future of our children and grandchildren in freedom and dignity, stability and self respect.

Thank you to all who have set their egos and agendas aside to debate what will hopefully deliver what we had all hoped UKIP would but which they clearly failed to.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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Perhaps as a starting point some may wish to consider:
1. Surely the 6 Point (Harrogate Agenda) should be THE 6 rights of ‘We the people: one people Under Law…’

2. The 6 rights should be headings for 6 or maybe more detailed rights within each sub section can be a method of enhancing, repealing or improving by referendum on a clearly defined & structured basis with defined required majorities for change.

2. The 6 rights should thus be the foundation of OUR ‘Declaration of Rights’ once adopted it can become ‘The Citizen’s Rights’. Note the apostrophe they become the inalienable rights of any one citizen of these United Kingdoms.

3. The Citizens’ Rights must include the expectation of the rights of those that serve them.

THEN:

We move on to how The Citizen’s Rights are incorporated into law under a Constitution of and for these United Kingdoms and its peoples.

I would contend that though, as has been stated, our system is indubitably, if we consider such Constitution and rights as they now stand, FUBAR but worse than that due to abuse – be that the idiotic stance of those seeking what they claim to be doubly entrenched law under such constitution as with Act of Settlement or Magna Carta we now find they have been so abused over the years by a devious ‘political class’ seeing itself as an elite as to be considerably more a case of being FUBAR BUNDY!

I contend we must not presume to plant a fully grown oak tree but rather an acorn.

The progress of that acorn and the degree of care in its nurture will determine the health, strength and durability of the eventual oak but we must not too greatly define it or we become in danger of having a stylised bonsai of little use to ‘We the peeople etc. …’

In brief first we must define the 6 core headings.

In my humble opinion – then the rest will fall into place.

6 core headings which will form our acorn and as I have just proved brevity is harder to achieve than precis ;-(

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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For those who are genuinely interested in a way forward may I suggest see CLICK HERE and read as much as you can find time to and follow the many links – you may even have sufficient interest in the future to join the debate on the Forum linked to the postings.
Good luck as Britain needs it in the face of the ineptitude of its present politicians and the style of governance that has so clearly failed us if not betrayed us!
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UKIP Works with The BNP, The EDL etc.

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UKIP Works with The BNP, The EDL etc. but pretends to ban them from UKIP – Clearly the racist extremist Gerard Batten’s position as a UKIP MEP is untenable!!

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You will note the strange bed fellows gathered in what can only be seen as an extremist gathering under the banner of ‘Anti-jihad’ which would seem to be an organisation of racists in xenophobic fear of Islam seemingly inciting others and themselves to racist hatred based on hatred of the superstitions and beliefs of others.
One wonders what part of this race hate is an acceptable part of the duties of an elected UKIP MEP Gerard Batten MEP.
I would contend this has absolutely nothing to do with the concept of Leave-The-EU and the duty of an MEP to serve their constituents regardless of race, colour or creed!

I contend Gerard Batten brings UKIP into disrepute by colluding and consorting with The BNP, The EDL, The BFP, The UBA & other extremists.

See for yourself and read all about this vile collective at CLICK HERE

Organisations

Gerard Batten MEP

Co-founder, UK Independence Party (UKIP), in 1993 and UKIP MEP since 2004.

  • UKIP Spokesman on Immigration and Islamism, since 2010.
  • Activist, Stop Islamisation of Europe (SIOE), since 2007.
  • Member, The Freedom Association (TFA) and former Columnist, Freedom Today magazine, 2004-2009.
  • Launched A Proposed Charter of Muslim Understanding at the European Parliament in Strasbourg on 13 December 2006 and at the House of Lords in London on 29 April 2007.
  • Addressed inaugural CounterJihad conference in Brussels on 18 October 2007. He was helped in producing this document by Sam Solomon.
  • Invited Geert Wilders to the European Parliament in December 2008 to screen his film Fitnato an invited audience of MEPs. The event was subsequently prevented from taking place by the Parliamentary authorities.
  • Met counter-jihadist activists from across the world attending the CounterJihad conference in London on 25 September 2011.
  • Author: Immigration: Action Overdue! (UKIP, March 2010).

Website: http://www.gerardbattenmep.co.uk

Hardly a record to be proud of as he drags UKIP into the gutter of his sordid prejudices!
Tjhere can be few things more brutal and revolting than race hate founded on the abuse of the so called religious beliefs of a group founded on the supertitions of another group a concept of medieval ignorance.
Yet again it is born out that there has been no greater source of evil on this planet than mankind’s determination to invent gods and then set out to force their idiotic inventions on others without a shred of proof or an iota of substance beyond superstitions and hatred!
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