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Trying to make UKIP Sound Relevant

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All that is achieved is showing them to be a shoddy, naff & undeniable failure, even accepting the results shown in just one loaded poll UKIP is so far short of votes in domestic politics, even with the claimed 13% that provides not a single seat!
It is increasingly clear UKIP is just a rich gamblers attempt at personal relevance & a self enriching seat on the EU gravy train for a clique of unprincipled rascals!

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Putting the Tories right

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/ June 28, 2012 

The UK Independence Party is a serious threat to the Conservatives

Nigel Farage, “an exceptional anecdotalist and very good company,” has made UKIP a political force

For Peter Kellner’s YouGov charts and analysis, click here


The man who is bankrolling the United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP) lives and works at a penthouse in the heart of Mayfair, next to the famous Italian restaurant Cipriani. Etched into the building are the words “Too many laws, too few examples.” Inside, the lift ascends to a top floor sitting room with French windows opening onto a balcony overlooking central London. A maid prepares coffee with chocolate Bourbon biscuits. Then, up some steps, in sea-blue shirtsleeves, comes the unassuming figure of Stuart Wheeler, the 76-year-old multi-millionaire who a decade ago gave generously to the Conservatives and is now donating funds to UKIP.

Led by the telegenic Nigel Farage, UKIP is a now a serious political party. This year, it has doubled its support to 8 per cent, according to YouGov figures, on the back of dislike of Europe and immigration. In April, three polls showed UKIP as Britain’s “third party,” above the Lib Dems and peaking at 11 per cent. In the May local elections, UKIP averaged 13 per cent of the vote in the seats it contested. The party appears to have clinched a place as the acceptable face of nationalism, with its rival on the right, the BNP, seen by many as racist (a charge the BNP denies).

Commentators expect UKIP to perform very well at the European elections in June 2014. Farage claims that UKIP will replace the Lib Dems as Britain’s third party—a goal that is not impossible as the Lib Dems face potential devastation at the next general election, the penalty for their coalition with the Tories. But the Conservative party, divided over Europe, has most to fear. Polls regularly show a small majority of voters in favour of withdrawal from the EU. Yet Cameron is known not to want a referendum because of the priority of the Eurozone crisis, and the likelihood that a referendum would further split the Tory party.

There are two men who count in UKIP: Farage, leader from 2006-2009 and again since 2010, and Stuart Wheeler, generous donor since 2009. They are very different characters, but both show that UKIP can no longer be dismissed in British politics.

Farage acknowledges privately that his job is made easier with the Tories in power, as the compromises of office inevitably let down some Eurosceptic Conservative voters (Peter Kellner, p35). Wheeler’s sights are firmly set on his former Conservative allies. In his gentlemanly and soft-spoken way, Wheeler attacks the “Europhile” David Cameron. Wheeler gave UKIP “about £90,000” last year. In a move that will worry senior Conservatives, he is actively wooing disillusioned Eurosceptic Tory MPs to defect to UKIP.

“I have written to five different Eurosceptic Conservative MPs inviting each of them to have lunch with me, alone, without knowing who the others were,” he says. “All five accepted.” These lunches were “all very friendly. Whether anything will come of it is another matter. I mean I didn’t actually invite them necessarily to come over [to UKIP] but… It’s a hell of a thing of course for an MP to come over because, unlike an MEP who can more or less be guaranteed a seat in the European parliament as UKIP rather than Conservatives, your chance of being elected to the Commons as UKIP is very remote, because of the first-past-the-post system.”

However, some Tory MPs face problems with changes to the boundaries of their constituencies. These include Nadine Dorries, the outspoken backbencher who has described Cameron and George Osborne as “arrogant posh boys.” Wheeler will “neither confirm nor deny” any names of his lunch guests, but does agree that those with boundary problems are potential targets. “That’s true, and those who are near retirement and don’t want to be reselected or anything—they might be possibles, yes.”

“We’d be delighted for anyone to come over but I’m not going into who I have seen and haven’t seen,” he adds. Asked about Dorries he does say: “Well I suppose she has somewhat, I don’t know, well, from what I read, she may have rather burnt her boat with the Conservative party.”

Wheeler, whose background is Eton, Oxford and the Welsh Guards, is credited with inventing “spread betting” on financial markets (allowing people to place wagers on movements in asset prices without actually owning them). He made £90m, as widely reported, in 2000 after floating IG Index, the company he founded in 1974, on the stock market. He sold his final holdings in 2003, and says that “my income is way below my outgoings.” But he is a huge asset for any party, especially in a system which has no caps on individual donations or state funding. In the run-up to the 2001 general election, Wheeler gave £5m to the Conservative party under William Hague’s leadership, becoming the party’s biggest ever donor. But by 2009, he was disillusioned with Cameron’s leadership and announced he would be voting UKIP in the European elections. Wanting to back a party that seeks withdrawal from the EU, Wheeler donated £100,000 to UKIP that year, prompting his expulsion from the Tory party. The incident has left bitterness, with Wheeler claiming that Eric Pickles, then party chairman, “lied” about the way in which he was expelled. Pickles said he called Wheeler; Wheeler says he was sent an email.

Wheeler does not give money only to political causes. “The thing I hate most in life is torture, so 90 per cent of what I give to charities as opposed to political parties does go to the human rights organisations [such as Amnesty International] and it’s torture rather than any other human right that I’m concerned about.” He got involved in Tory politics under the leadership of Hague, who fought the 2001 general election with the slogan “24 hours to save the pound.” “I really didn’t get much interested in politics at all until I was invited to dinner with William Hague at White’s.” Now, however, he is scathing about Hague, Osborne and Cameron, primarily but not only over Europe. “I just think [the Tories] got it very very wrong, and they were not doing anything to protect our interests in the EU, for all they said they were going to. I just thought they were being useless about it and it was much better to support UKIP.”

Cameron is too pro-European for Wheeler. “I’m not being sarcastic when I say I don’t know why he is so Europhile. I literally don’t know.” Does he really think Cameron is “Europhile”? “I do really. Before the last election, people were saying ‘I know that Cameron’s not making very Eurosceptic noises but once he’s in power you’ll see’—well we haven’t seen, absolutely not.”

I put it to Wheeler that Cameron could be said to be one of the most Eurosceptic of Tory leaders, the only one to withdraw from the European People’s Party, the mainstream centre-right group. “Well, he took years to fulfil his promise to do so.” In any case, for Wheeler, the goal is more fundamental: exit and the reclaiming of sovereignty. “I strongly feel we should be out of Europe. But while we’re in it Cameron has made no effort on several important matters, most importantly the regulation of the City of London which is our biggest single earner and produces tax money.”

On the wider domestic agenda, does Wheeler agree with Norman Tebbit and David Davis who have written in Prospect and elsewhere of the Cabinet’s “cronyish” style? “From what I can make out, that does seem to be the case. But also Cameron’s judgement is fantastically bad. How could he have appointed [Andy] Coulson [the former News of the World editor who became Cameron’s head of communications]? And then—what’s he called—Jeremy Hunt [the culture secretary]? Hunt may or may not have done some things he shouldn’t have done, but he had made his [pro-Murdoch] position clear before he took that post, and so it was absolutely obvious that he shouldn’t have been appointed to it. It is obvious Cameron made a gigantic blunder.”

His wider problem with the government is “its pure incompetence. I mean this business—shaming as a British citizen—that people should have to wait three or four hours at British airports to get in; completely foreseeable, very nasty for the people and very bad for our reputation. How on earth did it happen?”

On the coalition, Wheeler echoes the view expressed by Tories on the right: that the Liberal Democrats are too influential. The Lib Dems, he says, “would be destroyed if there was an election. So, I think either he is just frightened when he shouldn’t be, or it’s a convenient excuse for doing what he wants anyway.”

Wheeler would consider giving money to the Tories again only “if they gave us a definite in or out [referendum]. But they would have to be much more gutsy on other things. They really are lacking in determination and a vision of where they want to go.” I ask whether he has had any approaches to return to his former party. “No, they just say, ‘Oh Stuart, we’ve got to get you back in the fold one of these days.’ But not so much recently because of things I’ve said.”

Wheeler says he is committed to UKIP, and he expects his party to do better than ever. “I mean it’s fantastic… Outside London we got 13.8 per cent where we stood. One interesting point is that the polls put us at 8 or 9 per cent on that morning, and so there may be something like not wanting to admit that you’re voting UKIP.” He adds that some polls still do not include UKIP as a separate option, offering only the three main parties and “others.” Wheeler believes that the polls “underestimate our support.”

UKIP’s short-term strategy is to force the government into holding a referendum on EU membership. “I’m sure Cameron would absolutely hate it—but the stronger rumour is that Labour is going to back it,” Wheeler says. It is true that Ed Miliband is being lobbied by Ed Balls and others to outflank the Tories and back a referendum. Miliband has yet to make up his mind, but his new head of policy, Jon Cruddas, also backs an in-or-out vote. “It would be a vote-winner I think,” Wheeler says, “because irrespective of which way you vote, most people do want a referendum on it, so I think if Labour does it, the Conservatives may be forced to.” However, on 6th June the Labour leader indicated he was minded not to call for a referendum soon.

The debate about whether to back a referendum cuts across political divides. David Owen, the former leader of the Social Democratic Party (which in 1988 merged with the Liberal Party to form the Liberal Democrats), has proposed a two-question poll, on whether or not to remain in an integrating EU with a view to eventually joining the euro, and whether instead voters would prefer to be “part of the single market in a wider European community.”

Wheeler agrees that the eurozone turmoil would help the “No” cause. But he points out that in the UK’s last Europe referendum in 1975, “the polls showed 6-4 for coming out and the result was 2-1 for staying in.” Though Europe is his great cause, Wheeler emphasises that UKIP projects a wider agenda. “We’re very strong on immigration—we’ll have people who want to work if we need them but not otherwise. The country’s full for the moment. We’d cap it for five years, and so I think we’re much better than the Conservatives on that. Grammar schools we are in favour of. Low taxes we are in favour of. We are sceptical about global warming, and I think that the amount of money that is being spent on that is absolutely astronomical, for a country that can’t afford it.”

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This wider platform is emphasised by Nigel Farage, UKIP’s leader. Farage, who once built his own brokerage firm, believes small businesses and manufacturing are the keys to rebuilding the economy. He dismisses Osborne as having “never had a job” and says the country is being run “by a bunch of college kids.”

I meet Farage at “Europe House,” the headquarters of the EU Commission in London, which also happens to be the site of the old Tory HQ in Smith Square where Margaret Thatcher waved triumphantly from the windows on election nights. Here, Farage and his two press officers have their London base along with other MEPs from rival parties. Before long, we retire to the local pub, the Marquis of Granby, frequented by Tories.

A regular on Question Time, Farage is well known as a campaigner on Europe. Like other outsiders in politics, such as George Galloway and Tommy Sheridan, he has a perma-tan (which is real, from travelling around Europe) and an easy way with ordinary people. But Farage is also an exceptional anecdotalist and very good company, full of insights and gossip about senior politicians. As he sips a pint of real ale (“like a good Burgundy, you never know how it will taste”) and smokes Benson & Hedges cigarettes outside the pub, Farage receives messages from his family about the garden benefiting from the early summer rain. He is a fishing enthusiast and reads widely in military history and politics. When I ask whether he favours proportional representation he says that, having read Roy Jenkins’s report into “AV plus,” that is the system he prefers.

A one-time Tory, Farage was a founding member of UKIP when it was first created in 1993. In 1999, he was elected to the European parliament as MEP for the southeast of England, a position he retains. UKIP was still seen by many as a joke, however, never more so than in 2004 when the Yorkshire and the Humber UKIP MEP Godfrey Bloom declared memorably: “I want to deal with women’s issues, because I just don’t think they clean behind the fridge enough.” That same year, Farage recruited the TV presenter Robert Kilroy-Silk, who was the party’s MEP for the east Midlands. This looked like a masterstroke, but a year later Kilroy, who sought the leadership, resigned, claiming the party was a “joke” and “sitting on its backsides in Brussels.” The then UKIP leader Roger Knapman said he would “break open the champagne,” adding, “It was nice knowing him, now ‘goodbye’.”

It was not until 2006 that Farage took on what proved to be a turbulent leadership, with the aim of changing the perception of UKIP as a “far-right” party. He may not have succeeded fully, but he has dispelled the widespread perception that it is racist. I last spoke to him in 2008, when his party and his own leadership were in crisis, riven with plotting. An unlikely moderniser, Farage was having his own “Clause IV moment”: a battle to expel British National Party infiltrators and broaden the party’s appeal. The battle was bruising, but helpful. Farage had conducted private polling to find out what put people off voting UKIP. He found that he needed to reach out to those who felt they might be “isolationist,” or a closet racist party.  Farage’s UKIP calls for a five year halt to immigration, but has no policy towards those already here. The BNP on the other hand has gone from a policy of “repatriation” of ethnic minorities in the UK to “voluntary repatriation.”

Farage’s breakthrough came in 2009, the year he now says marked the “real beginning” of UKIP. Following the expenses scandal and public alienation from all three main parties, UKIP began soaring in the polls. In May that year, a YouGov poll for The Sun showed UKIP on 15 per cent, only 5 per cent behind the governing Labour Party.

At the European elections in June, UKIP’s seats in the European parliament went up by one to 13. The party beat Labour to second place, winning 16.5 per cent, or 2.5 million votes. Despite this, Farage stepped down as leader, ostensibly to fight the Buckingham seat against the Speaker, John Bercow, at the 2010 general election. He says now that “it was not really about Bercow,” and that he needed a break from the  infighting and management.

In what he tells me was a life-changing experience, Farage was in a light-aircraft crash during the campaign. He walked away from the upturned plane, badly injured and with blood pouring down his face. Farage reveals that “the accident has changed me a bit.” He says he had a short fuse, that he was “the kind of guy” who had shouting matches with other drivers. And now “I don’t let the little things worry me any more.”

In August 2010, while still recovering from his injuries, Farage got a call from his successor as leader, Lord Pearson of Rannoch, who announced he was standing down. Farage urged him to stay, but knew the decision had been made. He stayed up all night smoking before the deadline for deciding whether to stand again. Even at breakfast he had doubts, he says, but he did stand, and won by a huge margin—60 per cent to the runner up’s 20 per cent. Farage, whose decision was influenced by Alex Salmond’s example in serving as SNP leader for a second time, says that this time he has the mandate to lead the party in his own way.

This means more public meetings, at which Farage excels. Every month, he conducts talks around the UK, with jokes, banter and arguing. He is not short on invitations from around Europe and says that “I could spend my whole time travelling.” Social media has been of great use. His appearances inside the European parliament are a hit on YouTube, including the time that he accused Herman Van Rompuy, EU council president, of having “all the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk.” Under the best clips, Farage, who has 35,000 followers on Twitter, receives hundreds of messages of support, some from people in other EU countries, including Greece.

Farage may be on his way to fulfilling his ambition to be an MP—with the help of Wheeler, who plans to target key marginal seats. Pollsters suggest most UKIP voters will “return” to the Conservatives come the general election. It remains doubtful that UKIP will overtake the Lib Dems in the Commons.

At times in our conversation, Farage appears rueful, frustrated and even disdainful about his party. In the past, UKIP has had a toxic element. But through reform, popular public appearances and by broadening its base, Farage has made it a serious force. The next big challenge is the European elections in June 2014. Asked how UKIP will do, Farage says: “We aim to win. We aim to win and cause an earthquake in British politics.”

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It is astonishing just how You Gov has stayed in business when its polls so consistently fail to be representative in the ballot box – clearly we have come no closer to prediction than the ‘Swingometer’ of Bernard Braden .

After almost 20 years even with the ridiculously inflated poll claims of 13% NOTE that does not include the seats where UKIP achieved ZERO% so is an utterly meaningless example of how to lie with statistics!.
UKIP would have to double this 5 to stand ANY chance of winning a Westminster seat and the reality is that out of around 19,500 seats UKIP has achieved less than 30 of any relevance and that includes their near irrelevant MEPs who have become the joke of The EU parliament and are not just largely ignored but have ZERO relevance in decision making!

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Nigel Farage of UKIP re the tax haven of Jersey

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/06/2012

Nigel Farage of UKIP re the tax haven of Jersey
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Nigel Farage MEP of UKIP re the tax haven of Jersey with a population of just under 98,000 when his the S.E. constituency he is paid to represent has a population of just over 8 million!!

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it was interesting to note Nigel Farage embroiled in posturing on the merits of Jersey becoming Independent of The UK and intimating they should wait to see if Britain can extricate itself from control of its financial institutions by the malign powers of The EU first.
as discussed in the article on the BBC web site at CLICK HERE
Might this be pandering to the miniscule population of Jersey (just under 98,000 – many of whom would not welcome independence) or is it pandering to the tiny weenie number of millionaires who rip off Britain by using it as a tax haven and shelter for their money – just as with those who use The Isle of Man (eg. Nigel Farage with his so called ‘Farage Educational Trust’).
Surely since Farage is NOT a UKIP MEP with responsibility for Jersey as that role falls to Trevor Colman MEP for the South West and the ex Tory failure William Dartmouth likewise an MEP for UKIP in the SW which includes Jersey.
As Farage has made many £Millions from his career as a politician and sets no example by banking overseas and Dartmouth is an hereditary multi Millionaire whose wife sold one of her properties not so long ago for £13M. might such comments regarding tax havens not seem more apposite coming from Trevor Colman!
To take the matter of the tedious little island of Jersey where there seem to be only 4 things to do – Fiddle one’s taxes (albeit legitimately through loopholes as with K2 which Jimmy Carr has hugely advertised recently!), drive around the island viewing the sea from the right hand window of one’s car or reverse the direction for a different view! or drink!

Frankly after 2 days on the island we were so bored that we all went to the zoo – a rather small and repetitive private collection of mainly small animals and a few gorillas even that was boring after 40 minutes!

Perhaps UKIP would do well to remember when posturing on such small issues that were Jersey a town in Britain it would be 50th. in order of size of population after the mighty metropolis of Carlisle!

It is to be admitted that Jersey does seem to have a disproportionate percentage of wrecks be they of sail vessels, windjammers, clippers, schooners and the like but even more noticeable are the wrecks of livers, lives and marriages due to alcohol, or the wreck of lives as they have to send their children overseas for higher standards of medicine as with many of their medical needs!
It is however worth noting that it may well have been a tax haven for longer than many might think in the light of the recent discovery of the largest ever hoard of iron age coins being between 50-60,000 with a value of around £10Million!
So is it treasure trove, tax or the until recently rights of ‘droite de seigneur’ of the French community that appeals to Farage 😉
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City Population
London 7.2 Million
Birmingham 992000
Leeds 720000
Glasgow 560000
Sheffield 512000
Bradford 467000
Edinburgh 450000
Liverpool 440000
Manchester 420000
Bristol 380000
Wakefield 316000
Cardiff 310000
Coventry 305000
Nottingham 285000
Leicester 280000
Sunderland 280000
Belfast 280000
Newcastle upon Tyne 259000
Brighton 248000
Hull 240000
Plymouth 240000
Stoke-on-Trent 239000
Wolverhampton 239000
Derby 230000
Swansea 225000
Southampton 220000
Salford 215000
Aberdeen 215000
Westminster 190000
Portsmouth 186000
York 182000
Peterborough 157000
Dundee 145000
Lancaster 135000
Oxford 135000
Newport 135000
Preston 130000
St Albans 130000
Norwich 125000
Chester 118000
Cambridge 115000
Salisbury 115000
Exeter 111000
Gloucester 110000
Lisburn 110000
Chichester 108000
Winchester 108000
Londonderry 105000
Carlisle 101000
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Cowardly UKIP Sock Puppet reminded of THE FACTS!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/06/2012

Cowardly UKIP Sock Puppet reminded of THE FACTS!
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Cowardly UKIP Sock Puppet reminded of THE FACTS!

The point at issue was a discussion of Ashley Mote‘s EUroSceptic credentials, NOT the fact that he was found guilty under strange circumstances of benefit fraud by a high powered team of some 12 Government Lawyers an offence long before he was elected as a UKIP MEP!

Nor of the fact that he has done all he can to clear his name believing, rightly or wrongly, that he was subject of a false verdict, based upon overwhelming ‘political’ pressures!

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here is an interesting reminder of FACTS by Barbara Booker (ex UKIP resigned in disgust some time ago) for the attempt to smear the reputation of Ashley Mote as a EUroSceptic by one of the cowardly and fundamentally dishonest UKIP Leadership sock puppets.
It is sad that UKIP so consistently has its position befouled by the likes of such cowardly low lifes and their defamatory lies.:
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One aspect of Mote which has surprisingly not been given any attention in this topic is his decision to join ITS in the European Parliament. UKIP is almost universally criticised on here for being a part of EFD but Mote happily sat in a group with Alessandra Mussolini & the French National Front, amongst assorted others some of whom actually make them seem moderate! (I note that a Flemish ITS member is now in EFD.)
Ah, yes, the ITS group, standing for ‘Identity, Tradition, Sovereignty’, about which Nigel Farage told Portsmouth Today in January 2007: “Mr Mote was elected for UKIP, and the people who have voted for him would not expect him to be sitting with these people. It is a complicated process when deciding which group to join, and certain compromises have to be made, but sitting with people like that is beyond the pale”. The new group which Farage found beyond the pale included:

Frank Vanhecke of Vlaams Belang, currently a colleague of Farage himself and other UKIP MEPs in the EFD group

Philip Claeys (Vice-Chairman of ITS), Vlaams Belang, currently a fellow board member of UKIP MEP Godfrey Bloom in the European Alliance for Freedom (EAF)

Andreas Molzer (Bureau member of ITS), Austrian FPO, also currently a fellow board member of Godfrey Bloom in the EAF

Marine Le Pen, French FN, also of the EAF http://cep.rhul.ac.uk/cep-blog/2012/…n-freedom.html

Interestingly, when the new group was in the process of being set up in October 2006, EUObserver published an article ‘Far-right aims to form group in European Parliament’, claiming that some UKIP MEPs might join it. UKIP reacted strongly with a statement: “The UK Independence Party formally rejects the allegation made yesterday on the website of EUObserver.com that members of the party may have had talks with the proposed far right grouping being discussed in the European Parliament”.

UKIP forced a retraction and apology from EUObserver, with party chairman John Whittaker saying: “I am disturbed that EUObserver could print such a groundless allegation and I note that they have admitted that there is no substance to it”.

Makes you wonder what UKIP was bellyaching about. Its MEPs subsequently not only formed connections with former ITS members as listed above, but also with others referred to in the EUObserver article, the Lega Nord and League of Polish Families.

Funny how yesterday’s “far-right” and those who were “beyond the pale” have become today’s valued colleagues!

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Even Paul Wesson is making a fool of himself with what looks like a vitriolic vendetta against Ashley Mote as he bullies and browbeats anyone who dares to ask questions (BvL) regarding Mote’s conviction and the genuinely stated opinion of Niall Warry. It seems Wesson has quite lost his marbles as he is now trying to pretend I am posting on his squalid little forum which we know is packed with liars, cheats and UUKIP sock puppets ever willing to lie and defame those presenting facts and even banning people like myself, on the orders of UKIP for having published irefutable facts regarding UKIP.Many will remember how Anthony Butcher and his moderators were happy for anonimous lies about me to be published for UKIP, obeyed UKIP in repeated dishonesty and ad hominem comments regarding me when I showed beyond doubt that Nigel Farage’s chosen MEP Tom Wise was found guilty of colluding with Lindsay Jenkins to defraud the public purser – for which Tom Wise was subsequently jailed for 2 years and charges against Lindsay Jenkins were dropped when Tom Wise pleaded guilty during their trial!

As to Ashley Mote there is no doubt he was found guilty but I personally find the case to have failed to convince and I and some others question whether justice was seen to be done, for various reasons.I have little doubt that The Crown proved its case to its satisfaction – however odious as some may find Mote there is some doubt in my mind based upon timing and the determination of the crown to deploy some 12 lawyers to establish the weight of their case and expend around £1Million of public money on the alegation of about £70K of fraud.

I also empathise with the argument that pre paid tax on betting can be construed as having paid the due tax on any winnings – were that not the case the floor of most betting shops would be empty denuded of the unemployed who seem able to find considerable sums for gambling!The verdit may well have been returned in the court but in the public at large there is no doubt that a number of people consider that verdict to have failed to see justice done.

May I also add that the vendetta launched by some, such as Farage who even employed senior UKIP staff to follow the case and write the spin!

That conversely in the clear case of fraud whilst in elected office by Tom Wise, exploiting his elected position for personal gain (be minded Ashley Mote’s alleged and questionably proven offences were lomng before his election) Nigel Farage took no meaningful action against Tom Wise beyond repeatedly telling lies to and on the media regarding his having fired Tom Wise from UKIP, which he did NOT.

You may recal Tom Wise was a UKIP MEP until long after he had been exposedf as a fraudster by The Sunday Times and others and long after Mike Nattrass’ expletive riddled defence of Tom Wise on the grounds that if Tom Wiser was found guilty so would all The UKIP MEPs be!

May I also remind you that when The News of The World exposed Tom Wise’s greed and corruption Roger Helmer The Tory MEP was also supportive of Tom Wise even on the film taken by TNoTW!

Some may remember the open attack made on me by the duplicitous scoundrel Roger Helmer for seeking to expose corruption of those in public office – a stance followed by Mike Nattrass, Derek Clark, Mark Croucher, Paul Nuttall, Mike Nattrass, Graham Booth, Stuart Parr, Anthony Butcher, Lindsay Jenkins, Trevor Colman, Clive Page, Gawain Towler, Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, Stuart Gulleyslime, Malcolm Wood and many other liars and low lifes in and supportive of UKIP corruption – often for their own personal gain!

It is not just the utter incompetence of UKIP, as shown by their catastrophic performance in dometic politics, but their duplicitous, dishonest, defamatory cyber stalking and abuse that show that wityhout radical change they are clearly unfit for purpose as in the vanguard of EUroScepticism.

It will also be worth noting the irefutable racism, anti homosexuality and advocacy of violence amongst UKIP leadership team and their close associates that shows them for what they sadly have become – an enrichment clique supported by a vile claque seeking their own empowerment and or enrichment.
There are ZERO exceptions as none amongst the leadership team has EVER spoken out or tried to correct that fundamental corruption with the brave exception of Nikki Sinclaire and there is a sneaking suspicion that a fabricated case is being built to entrap her in a web of UKIP created lies – as revenge for braking ranks to do the job for which she was elected rather than perpetuate the leadership scams!
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The Current Plight of UKIP

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I was interested to note Junius’ comments at CLICK HERE and elsewhere at HERE on the imbecilic input of Mick McGough & such as Kevin Mahoney and the various cowards in the UKIP leadership claque, all seemingly on the maker and the take – that were featured with many other dishonest comments on the odious little Anthony Butcher’s corrupt UKIP controlled Forum – little wonder that despite his transparent personal ambitions in politics that have seen him move from Party to party he now finds himself something of an outcast acting independently as a parish councillor in Ashton near Bristol!

A detailed series of informative articles and compilations of facts regarding many of the the characters in UKIP and associated with UKIP can be located if you CLICK HERE

it does rather look, from the incomplete summary by Ian Gillman, as if UKIP leadership and its claque are responsible for several £Millions of the money stolen for the public purse and doled out as bribes to UKIP politicians, wannabes and chums and possibly the same again raised directly from supporters has been at worst trousered and at best squandered.

When will UKIP stop showboating, squabbling, posturing and basing the defence of their catastrophic failure in UK domestic politics on ad hominem attacks on its supporters who dare to criticise their utter incompetence, total lack of transparency, contempt for democracy and the clear signs of self serving greed and mediocracy amongst its leadership clique and their claque.

Clearly I could not make the comments about myself that Junius team have made but in mild embarrassment and gratitude for the clarification I can confirm them!

I have only EVER posted in support of the core aim of UKIP towards the aim of Leave-The-EU, that sadly this has involved exposing corruption, dishonesty, lies, self serving, incompetence, fraud and outright theft in the ranks of UKIP leadership clique was NEVER going to make me popular with the low lifes I have exposed, along with a very few other honest men and women who have had the integrity to speak out.

That UKIP is in direct debt to me for some £12,500 + a further £1,000 so far and are too dishonourable to settle the debt is unarguable, as they colluded in the failed court case trying to set me up and bankrupt me that their employee Mark Croucher aided directly by Paul Nuttall, Clive Page and others so resoundingly lost. That trash like this who lack even the integrity to settle their debts as they shelter behind the skirts of The EU perhaps shows just what un British standards they espouse.

That they pretend to such shamefully low standards and even openly default on their debts and lie to and in the courts renders UKIP in its present state completely unfit for purpose and little wonder that their last two major backers were professional gamblers and prior to that Sykes, who made his capital in scrap dealing, who dallied with them (as with Wheeler) in an attempt to put lead into the pencil of the Tories – similarly the duplicitous liar and political non entity Malcolm Pearson, who was considered too stupid, by Margaret Thatcher, to be put forward as an MP and was placed in The House of Lords for his access to money!

To cover their corruption they are all too willing to lie and defame – time and time again using their muppets and puppets and playing on the ambitions of the inadequates and failures they have surrounded themselves with. Inadequates and failures put in place so that their ONLY presentable public performer, duplicitous and self serving in his personal insecurity as he may be, can shine out unchallenged, like a cockerel on top of a dung heap in a particularly squalid farm yard!

I predicted with accuracy the catastrophic outcome of the last general election and also UKIP’s catastrophic result with 9 out of 4,987 available seats won in the local elections and amongst those 9 there are clearly those who do more harm to the EUroSceptic cause and these United Kingdoms than could have been claimed as good done by UKIP over the last 20 years. With standards so low UKIP will continue to go nowhere!

In almost 20 years UKIP has NEVER produced an unarguably sound briefing paper on any subject, has devised and published no Exit & Survival Strategy see CLICK HERE, has very little record of good publicity of any gravitas but much honest bad publicity! UKIP have not even EVER held a sound training program and has failed utterly to inform the British public as to how or why we would in fact be Better Off Out of the EU.

I predicted UKIP was going nowhere and was unfit for purpose and have unfortunately been proved 100% right.

Further I have been lied about, lied to, defamed and attacked for stating the truth again and again. In association with UKIP clearly patriotism, effort and the truth are feared and reveiled!

Unless UKIP has a RADICAL clean-up with resignations of almost all its dishonest, corrupt, indolent, self serving parasites in its leadership clique and their claque they have no meaningful role in British politics as the British people have so voted again and again in domestic politics.

UKIP in its present form is an excrescence doing great harm to the EUroSceptic cause of many of its genuine and ill informed members.

That UKIP has recruited amongst naive and ambitious nobodies, children on the make who with the encouragement of one adult will take on the world whether right or wrong and the elderly who have seen the slide from dignity of Britain whilst they brought6 up the present breed of self interested political nebishes of today!

UKIP must grow up, clean up and start to do some work or fold its tent, admitting it has abjectly failed, and leave the field open for a truly valid EUroRealist force to emerge.

Having a small claque of cowards and filth posturing to protect the rotten core of UKIP is NOT politics I respect, condone or am prepared to collude with – UKIP would seem to be utterly bereft of any of the great values of these United Kingdoms and little wonder that all it can find are failed city clerks, professional gamblers and the rejects of other parties to espouse its cause and suck the life blood out of Patriotism.

Surely UKIP in its self interest and greed must realise what damage they are doing to our Country – do they care or are they as many have claimed merely a buffer invented by the EU to bring EUroScepticism into disrepute?

Let us also note that UKIP having failed catastrophically in the local elections wuith a mere 9 seats out of 4,987 has not only proven their irrelevance in British politics but have done nothing whatsoever of note beyond seek scapegoats for their collective incompetence and attack all who try to show them for the charlatans they are in the hope of creating a clean up of the shower in leadership to give the party some hope of a future of some sort of relevance.

It may well be that UKIP is too ill informed to address the problems head on and campaign to inform the British people and for better media coverage at a time when Spain has effectively gone bust as no one would lend them the money to continue their clearly incompetent governance that sees them with 25% unemployment and a youth unemployment of almost 50% declared – they have absolutely no hope of repayment of loans and so no rational organisation would lend them money.

In steps the least rational financial institute in the world – The EU and in a desperate attempt to fudge the validity of their failed EUro currency they are GIVING Spain a £100 Billion bailout to keep them stumbling forward for a while – thus having failed to solve the Portuguese problem The Irish problem, the Italian problem, the Greek problem they now show they can not solve the Spanish problem.

Expect an upward flurry amongst the professional gamblers of the stock exchanges and money markets but when they realise this is just another handout of public money with no solution or long term gain the gamblers will realise the EUro is as busted as it ever was and without solution and them watch the crash!

Where is UKIP in stepping forward with ideas and solutions as they are paid to do – they like any fool can clamour at the failure but they were elected to WORK towards solutions and they have done NOTHING of any value.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

ADDITION 12:45hrs. 12-Jun-2012:
It will be noted that although Ian Gillman’s posting called upon the odious liar Mick McGough to help clarify the apparent systemic theft of money, in one way or another, by UKIP leadership clique and its claque one will note he duplicitously side stepped the request with the following comment posted on the UKIP controlled public forum at 07:21hrs. this morning:
Surely your best course of action Mr Gilman is to contact the Police,the Registrar of Companies,HMRC and the ICAEW with your concerns.Either action will be taken or you will be dismissed as a timewaster.
Clearly it was not Gillman’s intent to destroy UKIP at this stage but to clear up the doubt over missing £Millions he alludes to.

Initially the aim is to find answers and seek to clean the party up and try to give it a reputation and gravitas to restore its position as a force in EUroSceptic politics but clearly Mick McGough is too stupid to see this and seeks the nuclear option rather than admit his involvement in some area of the corruption as perhaps his collusion with Andrew Smith and the undemocratic behaviour of the eastern region committee or his lies regarding his position in the party to cheat his associates in selection on the PMEP lists.

Hard to tell but since clearly were he a man of integrity he could assist the party he clearly declines the opportunity – no doubt for personal gain.

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Nigel Farage & the mediocre squalor of UKIP

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Nigel Farage MEP, leader of the pro EU membership, reformist, racist, anti homosexual, extremist EFD Group AND the increasingly irelevant UKIP!

Considering the mediocrity and squalor of UKIP!!

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I believe that many are rather hard on Farage, who at the end of the day is NOT a leader, merely something of an entertainer and showman.

To understand why Farage is leader of UKIP one need only look at the top 50 people in UKIP and one realises there is not a single solitary honourable, erudite, informed, politically competent individual; of ANY gravitas – merely inheritted wealth, estate agents and other nobodies with personal ambitions – Patriotism seems all but absent!

Ask yourself if YOU had a country estate, children, animals and staff would YOU risk putting anyone from UKIP leadership team in your home whilst away for a week, let alone a month.

Can you in fact name an individual amongst UKIP leadership team you feel you could trust sufficiently to employ in an executive position.

Primus inter pares has been Farage’s policy, as most of his rivals, who had they stood up to his antics I am sure he would far rather see as leader but in testing them he finds he has built ‘A House of Cards‘, as with Michael Dobbs‘ novel, beset with intrigue, back stabbing and duplicity where no one shines but greed and self service are the order of the day.

Ability seems absent and thus vituperative ad hominem attacks on any critic or rival, combined with lies and whisper campaigns become the norm with each protagonist assuming a number of cowardly faux identities from behind which they troll the gutter politics they understand and aspire to.

Aware of his own ineptitude Farage has removed anyone of integrity, ability or stature so that like the barn yard cockerel he can shine out as he crows and preens on top of the dung heap that is UKIP in the squalid farmyard of EU politics.

As farmyards go it is time for a thoroughly radical clean up to make UKIP viable, whether you see Farage as Napoleon, Moses, Boxer, Squealer or Snowball one can put UKIP faces to all in the cast of Animal Farm!

UKIP’s catastrophic results in domestic elections, with 9 out of the 4,987 seats available won, show all too clearly that as it stands it is unfit for purpose and going nowhere.

That is not to detract from Farage’s indisputable, if somewhat Jim Davidsonesque, abilities and personality as an entertainer and performer.

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UKIP’s Christopher Monkton is a serial damage to The EUroSceptic cause!

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let us not forget that Christopher Monkton is not sure if he is currently Deputy Leader of U*KIP still, but UKIP lists him TODAY as:

Lord Monckton
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SOURCE: CLICK HERE

one of a mere 6 individuals, listed by UKIP
as holding a Key Role in the Farage entourage!

This is a sad reflection, yet again, of the utterly unprofessional and shambolic leadership of UKP and as QALL appointments in his Party are made by Nigel Farage clearly it yet again shows what a staggering inability he has to make sensible judgements on people!

You will also note the clear lack of ethics in the Farage Party with Mick McGough as a member of the NEC and a spokesman for the Farage Party and also not Lisa Duffy’s partner and cohabitee Peter Reeve is in the direct employ of the claimed Tory MEP and serial liar David Bannerman MEP – who was a direct choice of Nigel Farage’s, yet is still under investigation by OLAF of de4frauding the tax payers who fund The EU!

Lord Monckton delights Heartland conference with birther antics

By Stephen Lacey

Lord Christopher Monckton, climate denier extraordinaire. (Photo by Don Irvine Photos.)

A version of this article originally appeared on Climate Progress.

With the Heartland Institute suffering from a public relations disaster that caused 11 donors to abandon financial support, one might think the organization would attempt to moderate messaging tactics at its climate denial conference this week.

Or maybe even find an expert who doesn’t freely admit that he “has no scientific qualification” to challenge the science of climate change.

Not quite.

After comparing people who understand global warming with serial killers in a billboard campaign, the organization featured a presentation yesterday that called into question the legitimacy of President Obama’s citizenship.

Enter Lord Christopher Monckton, Heartland’s “mystery guest” who popped in to the conference Tuesday to perform a quirky stand-up comedy routine for a couple hundred eager attendees.

His presentation peeled back yet another layer on the conspiratorial beliefs of many within the climate disinformation community.

Monckton, a man frequently held up as an expert among deniers, started his speech off by boldly admitting his lack of scientific qualifications. He thanked the attendees for having the “courage” to challenge climate scientists, explaining: “It is particularly hard, if like me, you have no scientific qualification to do so.”

Monckton then joked about what he needed to do in order to build his credibility in America.

“I have concluded what one needs to have is a freshly minted Hawaiian birth certificate,” he said, referencing the belief among “birthers” that President Obama’s birth certificate is forged. He displayed a picture of a Hawaiian birth certificate with his personal information filled in. The crowded erupted in laughter.

“I was born at a military hospital. What is marvelous is that this [birth certificate] is just as genuine [as] that of the president of the United States,” said Monckton.

Even with the release of official documents and repeated confirmation from Hawaiian officials, Monckton is an outspoken believer that President Obama’s birth certificate is forged. The conspiracy has gotten so ludicrous in the face of documentary evidence, the Washington Post labeled remaining birthers “crackpots” who “live for their pet conspiracy theory.”

Explaining that his forged birth certificate prepared him to run for president of the United States, Monckton presented Heartland Institute President Joseph Bast with a freshly minted campaign button. Bast shook Monckton’s hand, jokingly saying he would endorse the candidacy.

The opening skit raised resounding laughter and applause throughout the room.

Monckton, a former policy adviser to Margaret Thatcher, has become a form of comic relief for the climate disinformation community. Australian satirists did a hilarious interview with him in which they “mistook” him for an act by Sacha Baron Cohen. But Monckton has also said those who embrace climate science are “Hitler youth” and fascists. He travels around the world making grossly inaccurate presentations filled with peculiar jokes poking fun at climate scientists, whom he labels “bullies” and “liars.”

However, the scientists he attacks have done nothing more than factually debunk, point by point, every single argument that Monckton has laid out throughout his career as a climate disinformer. (In fact, Monckton is one of the most widely discredited figures among the community of widely discredited deniers).

Then again, Monckton himself admitted up front in yesterday’s speech that he has no “scientific qualification.”

In the wake of Heartland’s Unabomber billboard campaign, 11 donors representing roughly 35 percent of the organization’s funds for 2012 pulled support, according to the advocacy organization Forecast the Facts. The pharmaceutical giant Eli Lilly said such tactics “were not consistent” with how the company “engages in public debate.”

Helping spread the fringe conspiracies of birthers probably isn’t the best messaging strategy for the Heartland Institute right now.

Ironically, Monckton’s birther routine came directly after a speech from Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.), who alluded to the billboard campaign by saying “we can continue to win these debates out of the strength of our arguments, without recourse to unsavory tactics that only serve to detract from our message.”

Sensenbrenner’s message at the conference: Carbon dioxide is a “natural gas” that couldn’t possibly harm the planet. “Does this mean that all of us need to put catalytic converters on all our noses?” he asked the crowd, which chuckled at his suggestion.

To view the original article CLICK HEREMinded that Monkton does not, to any degree of accuracy, know who he is, passing himself off with many false claims about himself – he seriously undermines his personal credibility but more worryingly that of UKIP for whom he is the policy director and a member of their leadership team and executive.

I personally have little time for the ‘warmist’ scams but it is hard not to have less for Monkton who has so damaged the Climate Realist cause and the standing of EUroScepticism!

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Irish Fiscal Treaty Referendum, Farage & Sinclaire!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/05/2012

Irish Fiscal Treaty Referendum, Farage & Sinclaire!
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The Irish Fiscal Treaty Referendum, & the involvement of Nigel Farage & Nikki Sinclaire feature in the Irish Times!!

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an interesting item of journalism which does UKIP no favours in its brutal presentation of the rank amateur and ill mannered behaviour of the Farage leadership that has done so much harm to EUroScepticism – That is not to say the primary aim was other than well meaning though now sadly corrupted by crass incompetence and lack of professionalism or PR of any competence whatsoever AGAIN!

You will find the article all too typical of the journalistic qualities bought by The EU which the behaviour of UKIP leadership so readily feeds in its crass incompetence!

Karen Coleman: Beware of No campaigners with agendas of their own

 
British MEP Nigel Farage of UKIP, which has spent around
?200,000 on anti-treaty leaflets
British MEP Nigel Farage of UKIP, which has spent around €200,000 on anti-treaty leaflets

By Karen Coleman

Saturday May 26 2012

ONE of the more sinister aspects of the fiscal treaty campaign has been the involvement of Eurosceptic MEPs who’ve come over here to spout their anti-EU rhetoric. Their anti-treaty crusades have little to do with what’s best for Ireland but predominantly they are about the pursuit of their own anti-EU agendas.

The involvement of the UK Independence Party (UKIP) is particularly egregious. Its leader, Nigel Farage, is an English MEP who campaigned here against the Lisbon Treaty in 2009. Now he’s urging us to vote No to the fiscal treaty.

A slight, dapper man, Mr Farage regularly indulges his anti-EU sentiments in the European Parliament with his cutting and frequently entertaining digs at the EU and its officials. Mr Farage and the rest of UKIP’s members passionately believe Britain should leave the EU. When they sit in the European Parliament, they look like isolated little Englanders with their Union Jack flags sitting on their desks in a kind of childish defiance of European unity.

Now, there’s plenty wrong with the EU at the moment. As I have said before in this column, EU leaders are failing to tackle the enormous political and economic challenges we face. Their dithering and procrastination is endangering the stability of Europe. But a further fragmentation of the EU’s waning community spirit will not serve us well. UKIP’s jingoistic isolationism thrives on that fragmentation.

I personally experienced a more aggressive side of UKIP last Wednesday when I interviewed Mr Farage in his offices in the European Parliament.

When I knocked on his door, a man holding a pipe in his hand brought me into a room thick with the stench of tobacco smoke. The European Parliament has a strict no smoking policy, but that rule is apparently ignored in Mr Farage’s demesne.

Mr Farage himself was sitting at his desk with a pile of papers in front of him, which included a printout of the ‘Donegal Democrat’. I suspected it contained references to a statement made in the European Parliament the previous day by the Fianna Fail MEP Pat ‘the Cope’ Gallagher.

Mr Gallagher had declared that Mr Farage’s involvement in the anti-treaty campaign was a good thing for the Yes side. The Donegal MEP believes that Irish voters strongly dislike foreigners like Mr Farage telling them how to vote.

During our interview, one of UKIP’s fixers entered the room and sat down opposite us. He got aggressive when I pressed Mr Farage on the amount of money they were spending on their No campaign in Ireland.

The money topic came up after Mr Farage had boasted about how they were distributing their anti-treaty leaflets to every household in Ireland. When I asked him how much it was costing to print and distribute them, he inadvertently blurted out that it was around €200,000. I was shocked at the high figure and I pressed him further on it. At that stage, his fixer got aggressive and he threatened to pull the interview.

“Karen, if you continue on this f****** line we’ll just f****** wrap up and go, all right?” he warned me.

Then he started preaching to me about a reputation to keep, as if somehow I was compromising my journalistic integrity by legitimately enquiring about the amount of money they were spending on their anti-treaty campaign.

It was a nasty encounter.

The money for the Eurosceptics’ campaign comes from an EU information fund which can be legitimately accessed by the European Parliament’s political groups. UKIP is a member of the Eurosceptic Europe of Freedom and Democracy group, which has 34 members, including 10 from UKIP. Another nine come from Italy’s Northern League party, which has been clouded in controversy recently after its founder Umberto Bossi resigned amid allegations that he had used taxpayers’ money for perks for himself and his family. Mr Bossi has reportedly described the EU as a nest of communist bankers and freemasons. Another EFD member is the Finnish MEP Sampo Terho, who belongs to the populist right-wing True Finns party.

Each parliamentary group is entitled to funding from the EU’s information budget for the likes of referendums, so there is nothing wrong with the EFD accessing that fund for their anti-treaty campaign in Ireland. The Irish MEPs are also using EU information money, through their parliamentary groups, for their own fiscal treaty campaigns. But there isn’t a single Irish MEP in the EFD group — and their €200,000 spend on their No campaign is significant.

And the bandwagon of anti-treaty Eurosceptics visiting Ireland continues. On Sunday, another British MEP begins a road trip here with a posse of some 20 followers and advisers. Nikki Sinclaire used to be with UKIP, but now she’s an Independent MEP representing the West Midlands. Last February she was arrested on suspicion of misusing European Parliamentary allowances and expenses. In an interview last week, Ms Sinclaire told me the allegations were completely unfounded and made by a disgruntled ex-employee.

She told me she plans to travel around Ireland in a people-carrier festooned with balloons and posters which have a big cartoon of Angela Merkel with a warning not to become her puppet. Ms Sinclaire will also distribute anti-treaty leaflets to Irish voters. Her road trip is also being funded by the EU.

Ironically, the involvement of the Eurosceptics in this referendum may do more harm than good to the No campaign. Pat ‘the Cope’ Gallagher has a point when he says that Irish voters don’t like foreigners coming here preaching to them about how they should vote.

Now, of course we’ve had droves of pro-treaty politicians and eurocrats who’ve descended on us over the years to encourage us to vote Yes to treaties such as Nice and Lisbon. But there’s something particularly disturbing about the involvement of UKIP in this referendum campaign.

As I said previously, their anti-treaty crusades have little to do with what’s best for Ireland. Their main agenda is to take Britain out of the EU. That would definitely not be good for Ireland.

– Karen Coleman

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To Which I commented:

Hi,

one has to wonder at the integrity of a journalist who puts only one sided propaganda forward as a view, an opinion or dare I say reporting!

Why is there no balance explaining how Erasmus Scholarships are extensively used to propagandise the young and indoctrinate them.

There is no comment about The EU multi €Billion propaganda budget to dupe people into the social experiment and central control of the largely undemocratic EU – A post democratic society ruled by unelected bureaucrats – I concede that the likes of Nigel Farage have their own position to maintain but it can not be de3nied that he opposes EU membership though it can be shown he has been perverted by the bribes available through The EU in abuse of the peoples for the gain of the political class.

Karen Coleman in taking her simplistic and propagandised stance overlooks, conveniently, the huge bribes and cushy position of journalists in the EU funded by expenses, free offices, unlimited travel and glossy entertainment – is it that she feels this is threatened by the truth of the evil of this new all consuming Empire, unsupported by its people but bought with their own money?

It can be claimed that Nigel Farage is acting in his own interest as something of a puppet to the Tory Party and it may be true but I think not – even if it were then perhaps Karen Coleman would care to explain the passion of the beliefs of Nikki Sinclaire and her supporters and staff who find themselves foul of the law seemingly framed for having dared speak out against the evil that is the EU.

It matters not whether one is British or claims to be Irish – YOU are NOTHING but pawns in the hands of the EU. Pawns in their great scam, tyheir great self interest and their utter indifference to all that is good in the freedoms of mankind that many of us and even more of our ancestors have risked their lives to obtain and defend.

Karen Coleman seems not to value the freedom of speech which was once the cornerstone of her chosen profession and has seemingly succumbed to the propaganda of The EU designed at a cost of €Billions to crush all that is or should I say was Irish.

May I take the liberty, yes liberty, of supporting the NO vote – where a Yes vote will be just another loss of liberty hard won.

I am after all these years unable to identify a single solitary benefit in EU membership, be it for Ireland or Britain that even begins to justify the horrors of the costs.

Good luck Ireland for you must decide yourselves whether you live on your knees having voted Yes or stand in dignity having excercised your fundamental human right of self determination – A Free Ireland rather than a vassal of an evil Empire.

Yes I believe both Nigel Farage & Nikki Sinclaire are acting for the liberation of Britain in their own chosen ways – ways chosen by the votes of their electorate, an old democratic concept but one that has stood the Western World in good stead increasingly for 2 Millenia before the restrictions of petty bureacrats were imagined with all the restrictions imposed by The EU’s central kontrol.

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Greg_L-W.

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It Sadly Says It All – 9 seats was a CATASTROPHY!

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It Sadly Says It All – 9 seats was a CATASTROPHY!
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It Sadly Says It All – 9 seats was a CATASTROPHY!

5% of the vote!

1.96% In The London Mayoral Election!

4,987 seats available & UKIP only won NINE!

There Are No Excuses that such an unprofessional leadership can come up with that would fool anyone but a child!

UKIP Leadership haven’t even twigged the media are bigging them up as a weapon to attack the Tories as the left wing media are terrified of the chaos and huge cuts caused by Labour!

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My comment is on You Tube:

The catastrophic failure in the recent election with 5% of the vote only and only 9 out of 4,987 available seats rather brings the truth about the unprofessional self serving & corrupt leadership home to those with ANY ethics. The idiocy of renaming merely exacerbated the problem of having no one of gravitas or stature to field as a candidate and in London the Mayoral campaign was only 1.96% of the electorate.

One has to ask in what way is UKIP fit for purpose after 30 years of failure?

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UKIP Leadership team lack even the integrity to say sorry to their supporters whom they so badly betrayed!

It can hardly be seen as surprising that they are lampooned and even Andrew Neil described Farage’s UKIP as a ‘Joke’ on National TV – Hard to argue with, save by political idiots and the delusional and blinkered who have been blinded by their hopes of enrichment and status via The EU! (The tragedy is UKIP would seem to have a super abundance of such muppets!)

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An MA Pol/Econ at Hull seems not to require veracity!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/05/2012

An MA Pol/Econ at Hull seems not to require veracity!
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An MA Pol/Econ at Hull seems not to require veracity!

OR MANNERS it would seem from the lad’s response!!

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Hi,
I was interested to read a particularly adulatory blog by one:
David Downing is a student of economics, history and politics and planning to pursue a Master’s degree from the University of Hull, England. He has interned for Alan Duncan, a Conservative lawmaker who stood for the party leadership in 2005. David has also served as an elected council official in the borough of Melton in northeastern Leicestershire.
To quote his own publicity at CLICK HEREI felt it incumbent on me, having read his staggeringly naive blog, to comment thus:
Hi,I’m afraid you are woefully misinformed and if you really expect s casreer in politics it obviously won’t matter if you are presenting fantasy as most politicians do!Your first error was in stating that Farage’s party averaged 13 percent in the recent local elections – this is not true, they average 5%.It is true to say they averaged 13% in the minority seats where they were able to muster candidates!

Consider the facts:
There were 4,987 seats available by election
of those UKIP was able to find candidates for 700
of those 9 were elected.

No with such a risible result after 20 years and with 1.96% of the vote for London Mayor I do believe you are being staggeringly naiive but optimism based on inexperience is not the preserve of the young!

UKIP had a truly catastrophic result in the recent elections, primarily due to utterly inept leadership in fact incompetent leadership that has been astonishingly unprofessional.

It may surprise you that in 20 years, despite advocating a policy of campaigning to Leave-The-EU Farage’s inept leadership team have failed to mount a single solitary campaign of any note, not a petition, not a single meaningfull training session, a woefull lack of briefing papers and absolutely no exit and survival strategy.

For all that they criticise the EU for the lack of transparency of its accounts neither Farage nor UKIP have EVER published transparent accounts – despite a promise that UKIP MEPs would all publish their accounts yet neither Farage or any of his MEPs has ever done so!

An undertaking was given for and on behalf of UKIP by Farage that no UKIP MEP would practice nepotism or employ members of their staff and it was not until Daniel Foggo then of The Sunday Times, published the facts that either UKIP members or it seems Farage’s colleagues became aware that he was paying Kirsten his wife £30.000 a year – yet his own office could name no UKIP or political work done by Kirsten!

Other UKIP MEPs have also employed family members and not declared it!

You speculated on defectors from The Tories joining UKIP – this is but a sad dream and part of the spin and propaganda of UKIP – UKIP has not and will; not attract any politician of gravitas, note or probity under its present inept leadership.

True it may attract the odd councillor of little note and less reputation as it has done to date – similarly discreditted Tory MPs and MEPs who face deselection withing the party may way have one last fling of petty vengeance or futile self importance – vis the discreditted Neil Hamilton or the disafected Roger Helmer who was, many will remember, on recortd supporting the criminality of the UKIP MEP Tom Wise who received a two year prison sentence for defrauding the public purse with an instrument signed by Lindsay Jenkins.

I am concerned that you consider you may be on track for a masters degree with such inept reportage and crass speculation – have they made them that easy of recent years?

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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  1. I never said that had broken into national politics and please direct me to where int he post I talk about corruption or the possible opaqueness of UKIP. I have merely tried to offer an impartial view. So far

    Lord Hesketh
    Lord Pearson
    MEP Roger Helmer
    Cllr Catherine Bursnall
    Cllr Tom Bursnal
    Lord Willoughby

    and there is according to the UKIP many others in talk about defections.. While I can understand your view of my “speculation” the fact 3 lords one the ex treasurer of the conservative party, have defected to UKIP makes it seem less of speculation and more of a reality.

    Also, you point to the 9 elected out of hte 700, I point to the fact I did not say they had broken through into the main political arena, if you had listened in you English lessons, one would have known that the ? symbol denotes a question.. I was asking whether this year could be the year they break into the mainstream, based on the fact that they polled higher than the Liberal democrats in many recent opinion polls.

    While I may be “woefully misinformed” at least I am not an insular possible xenophobe who actually supports UKIP like yourself and your website on UKIP.

  2. TO WHICH I REPLIED:

  3. Hi,

    you clearly didn’t read anything on my web site.

    Do check out the 3 peers you quote:
    Lord Heskith was on Newsnight a short while ago and has clearly lost most of the plot! He was querulous, uncertain, indestincy and just a name from history – bandiesd around as some sort of trophy but of no visible current political competence.

    Lord Pearson – positioned by his father’s money and clearly of little ability was ‘used’ by Thatcher – his skill would seem to be limited to going out to lunch! A fund raiser who is past his sell by date to judge by his biungled delivery to UKIP. Untrustworthy and dishonest, two faced but clearly informed on sufficient of the details of The EU to show his contempt for membership of the malign social experiment.

    MEP Roger Helmer – announced his retirement but then had a hissy fit when denied the privilege of anointing his successor – withdrew his retirement and in a strange act of vengeance it seems he announced he would join UKIP – he has made a huge and continuous income from the EU and unwisely was a close defender of the criminality of Tom Wise who was sent to prison for 2 years as was Nigel Farage who regularly lied to the public claiming top have dumped Wise – when it was more a case of having little wisdom rather than no Wise!

    The Bursnalls are new comers of little consequence but that has not prevented them from being associated with some particularly crass statements including the suggestion that the vote be witghdraw3n from the unemployed!

    Lord Willoughby de Broke – a long term EUroSceptic who greatest achievement in the field was his excellent web suite of EU idiocies etc. which sadly seems to have been closed. Seems alied with UKIP for no other reason than their claimed EUroScepticism whi8ch sadly seems to be more of a vehicle for the enrichment of its leadership than a reality of campaigning!

    As to your attempt to smear me as xenophobic perhaps from the 1,000s of postings I have made on the internet it behooves you to find a single solitary example to justify your ill researched comment.

    As to your use of ? as with the use of the word ‘Allegedly’ it holds no validity when postulating ill informed rhetorical questions in political debate being merely a febrile cover for ill informed opinion.

    Regards,
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UKIP’s CLAIMED Policies are clearly a sham!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 10/05/2012

UKIP’s CLAIMED Policies are clearly a sham!
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Hi,
I had not bothered mentioning the details of the close link with UKIP & The British Freedom Party as it seemed to be just one prominent member Paul Weston who was a UKIP candidate for Parliamentary election and an outspoken member of UKIP’s London ‘shower’!
However the game has moved on it seems! As made abundantly clear by one of my contacts in The EU who is a supporter of UKIP and thus vehemently opposed to the behaviour of the party leadership and its parasites whose over racism and association with such vile characters as the EFD Group and apparent incitement to race hatred based upon choices of superstition that have been so clearly manifest by Gerard Batten who has been associated with the extremist organisations and individuals already shown on this blog and on the blog regarding him at CLICK HERE
Gerard Batten also features here CLICK HERE amongst a number of his known associates including Gregory Lauder-Frost (known by some as Frauder-Lost as a result of his conviction to prison for theft from his employers) and also others perceived by many as extremists, racists and preachers of thinly veiled incitement to race hatred, frequently like Gerard Batten based upon their religious superstitions.
Interestingly although it was a matter of Court record freely provided in the public domain that Gerard Batten was facing allegations in court of racism and abuse etc. he still has not provided the details and has in fact engineered a clearly immoral gagging order, since he is a public servant, in order to suppress the facts regarding his odious extremism, one assumes!You may find the following article informative as it shows just how incompetently led UKIP is with the comments of the UKIP leader in Scotland and Party Policy Director advocating ex BNP members join the party via the extremist BFP CLICK HEREI wonder if UKIP will ever expel its dishonest leadership team member who so glibly pretends to be a member of the House of Lords an action he has been cautioned for as ‘passing off’. Christopher Monkton, the one time journalist has also been vociferously claiming Obama birth certificate is a forgery.

I for one doubt it as that would require an ethical act of integrity!

Having seen that article remember BFP leader Paul Weston stood as a high-profile PPC for UKIP in 2010 for the City of London constituency who in an interview told politics.co.uk that ‘the UK was being colonised and ethnically cleansed by mass immigration and that within the next 20 years a race war would break out in the UK  where white working class kids will go fight against immigrants’ CLICK HERE

This did not to my knowlege have any disciplinary UKIP consequences  for Paul Weston as he continued to be quoted as UKIP though he subsequently left UKIP founding the British Freedom Party (BFP).

The BFP has attracted significant membership transfers with Weston, from UKIP or at very least tacit agreement and support as Christopher Monkton has confirmed, and of course draws largely on the disillusioned member of the collapsing BNP.

The BFP is I gather now officially  the Political Wing of the English Defence League, with Tommy Robinson / Steven Lennon having  been appointed Depty Leader CLICK HERE

This  follows many months of widely known and publicised mutual support and close cooperation!

The party has also cooperated CLICK HERE  with the Kahanist Fascist Jewish Defence League, which is responsible  for a large number of murders and whose US leaders were arrested in 2001 for plotting to blow up the offices of the Muslim Congressman Darrel Issa CLICK HERE

Of course officially the BFP are a proscribed organisation!!

The pretence put forward that it does not permit association with racists, the anti Jewish, anti homosexual and Holocaust deniers is clearly a pack of lies as Christopher Monkton, a member of the leadership team has shown and as shown by the irrefutable fact Farage is leader of the EFD Group in The EU which ticks all the boxes as an extremist and racist organisation!

Interestingly despite having arbitrarily proscribed people from membership such as The UKFirstParty members UKIP leadership still tries to pass itself off as a Libertarian Party yet is itself neo fascist in many aspects!

In the light of UKIP’s catastrophic results in te recent Local Elections with a mere 9 seats with no gains out of the 4,987 available and in the London Mayoral election particularly with the risible 1.96% of the vote in a fiasco many believe was engineered deliberately by Farage to suit his masters!
It is clearly not the time to continue to spin the truth as clearly the peoples of these United Kingdoms have seen straight through their sham and hypocrisy and even Farage announced to the media that UKIP under his leadership was reliant on protest votes – the sub text of the statement being that UKIP under his leadership team had failed totally to impress with their policies or abilities!

Regards,
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