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An MA Pol/Econ at Hull seems not to require veracity!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/05/2012

An MA Pol/Econ at Hull seems not to require veracity!
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An MA Pol/Econ at Hull seems not to require veracity!

OR MANNERS it would seem from the lad’s response!!

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Hi,
I was interested to read a particularly adulatory blog by one:
David Downing is a student of economics, history and politics and planning to pursue a Master’s degree from the University of Hull, England. He has interned for Alan Duncan, a Conservative lawmaker who stood for the party leadership in 2005. David has also served as an elected council official in the borough of Melton in northeastern Leicestershire.
To quote his own publicity at CLICK HEREI felt it incumbent on me, having read his staggeringly naive blog, to comment thus:
Hi,I’m afraid you are woefully misinformed and if you really expect s casreer in politics it obviously won’t matter if you are presenting fantasy as most politicians do!Your first error was in stating that Farage’s party averaged 13 percent in the recent local elections – this is not true, they average 5%.It is true to say they averaged 13% in the minority seats where they were able to muster candidates!

Consider the facts:
There were 4,987 seats available by election
of those UKIP was able to find candidates for 700
of those 9 were elected.

No with such a risible result after 20 years and with 1.96% of the vote for London Mayor I do believe you are being staggeringly naiive but optimism based on inexperience is not the preserve of the young!

UKIP had a truly catastrophic result in the recent elections, primarily due to utterly inept leadership in fact incompetent leadership that has been astonishingly unprofessional.

It may surprise you that in 20 years, despite advocating a policy of campaigning to Leave-The-EU Farage’s inept leadership team have failed to mount a single solitary campaign of any note, not a petition, not a single meaningfull training session, a woefull lack of briefing papers and absolutely no exit and survival strategy.

For all that they criticise the EU for the lack of transparency of its accounts neither Farage nor UKIP have EVER published transparent accounts – despite a promise that UKIP MEPs would all publish their accounts yet neither Farage or any of his MEPs has ever done so!

An undertaking was given for and on behalf of UKIP by Farage that no UKIP MEP would practice nepotism or employ members of their staff and it was not until Daniel Foggo then of The Sunday Times, published the facts that either UKIP members or it seems Farage’s colleagues became aware that he was paying Kirsten his wife £30.000 a year – yet his own office could name no UKIP or political work done by Kirsten!

Other UKIP MEPs have also employed family members and not declared it!

You speculated on defectors from The Tories joining UKIP – this is but a sad dream and part of the spin and propaganda of UKIP – UKIP has not and will; not attract any politician of gravitas, note or probity under its present inept leadership.

True it may attract the odd councillor of little note and less reputation as it has done to date – similarly discreditted Tory MPs and MEPs who face deselection withing the party may way have one last fling of petty vengeance or futile self importance – vis the discreditted Neil Hamilton or the disafected Roger Helmer who was, many will remember, on recortd supporting the criminality of the UKIP MEP Tom Wise who received a two year prison sentence for defrauding the public purse with an instrument signed by Lindsay Jenkins.

I am concerned that you consider you may be on track for a masters degree with such inept reportage and crass speculation – have they made them that easy of recent years?

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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  1. I never said that had broken into national politics and please direct me to where int he post I talk about corruption or the possible opaqueness of UKIP. I have merely tried to offer an impartial view. So far

    Lord Hesketh
    Lord Pearson
    MEP Roger Helmer
    Cllr Catherine Bursnall
    Cllr Tom Bursnal
    Lord Willoughby

    and there is according to the UKIP many others in talk about defections.. While I can understand your view of my “speculation” the fact 3 lords one the ex treasurer of the conservative party, have defected to UKIP makes it seem less of speculation and more of a reality.

    Also, you point to the 9 elected out of hte 700, I point to the fact I did not say they had broken through into the main political arena, if you had listened in you English lessons, one would have known that the ? symbol denotes a question.. I was asking whether this year could be the year they break into the mainstream, based on the fact that they polled higher than the Liberal democrats in many recent opinion polls.

    While I may be “woefully misinformed” at least I am not an insular possible xenophobe who actually supports UKIP like yourself and your website on UKIP.

  2. TO WHICH I REPLIED:

  3. Hi,

    you clearly didn’t read anything on my web site.

    Do check out the 3 peers you quote:
    Lord Heskith was on Newsnight a short while ago and has clearly lost most of the plot! He was querulous, uncertain, indestincy and just a name from history – bandiesd around as some sort of trophy but of no visible current political competence.

    Lord Pearson – positioned by his father’s money and clearly of little ability was ‘used’ by Thatcher – his skill would seem to be limited to going out to lunch! A fund raiser who is past his sell by date to judge by his biungled delivery to UKIP. Untrustworthy and dishonest, two faced but clearly informed on sufficient of the details of The EU to show his contempt for membership of the malign social experiment.

    MEP Roger Helmer – announced his retirement but then had a hissy fit when denied the privilege of anointing his successor – withdrew his retirement and in a strange act of vengeance it seems he announced he would join UKIP – he has made a huge and continuous income from the EU and unwisely was a close defender of the criminality of Tom Wise who was sent to prison for 2 years as was Nigel Farage who regularly lied to the public claiming top have dumped Wise – when it was more a case of having little wisdom rather than no Wise!

    The Bursnalls are new comers of little consequence but that has not prevented them from being associated with some particularly crass statements including the suggestion that the vote be witghdraw3n from the unemployed!

    Lord Willoughby de Broke – a long term EUroSceptic who greatest achievement in the field was his excellent web suite of EU idiocies etc. which sadly seems to have been closed. Seems alied with UKIP for no other reason than their claimed EUroScepticism whi8ch sadly seems to be more of a vehicle for the enrichment of its leadership than a reality of campaigning!

    As to your attempt to smear me as xenophobic perhaps from the 1,000s of postings I have made on the internet it behooves you to find a single solitary example to justify your ill researched comment.

    As to your use of ? as with the use of the word ‘Allegedly’ it holds no validity when postulating ill informed rhetorical questions in political debate being merely a febrile cover for ill informed opinion.

    Regards,
    Greg_L-W.

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  3. Now, “The Enemy Within”
    You might have something there.
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