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As This Blog Predicted – Warfare, Rivalry & Splits In Ukip

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/11/2014

As This Blog Predicted – Warfare, Rivalry & Splits In Ukip
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As This Blog Predicted – Open Warfare, Rivalry & Splits In Ukip are inevitable as the party has after 21 years still no responsible, honourable EU exit and survival strategy due to lack of competent leadership and consistent or costed policies.

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as I wrote is some detail the most likely outcome of Ukip’s lack of competent leadership would lead to the party’s own self destruction as the egos of diametrically opposed values and beliefs joined together for personal gain despite the divergence of their ideologies.
Ukip just isn’t stable enough to cope with the size of egos it has attracted and even prior to its present parlous position Nigel Farage had fallen out with or stabbed in the back around 1/3rd. of his elected team!

EXCLUSIVE: MOVES TO REMOVE O’FLYNN AFTER ANTI-BUSINESS NEWSNIGHT INTERVIEW

by ANDRE WALKER 17 Nov 2014, 1:34 AM
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Senior members of UKIP are campaigning behind the scenes to have Patrick O’Flynn MEP removed as economic spokesman after his appearance on the BBC’s Newsnight programme last Monday night. In the interview O’Flynn called for higher taxes on business, having previously called for a tax on the turnover of companies so they would pay even if they did not make a profit.
O’Flynn is widely seen as the standard bearer of the left of UKIP leading to “mutterings” against him. He is said to be keen to attract old Labour voters in places like Rotherham and Hull by pledging tax increases. At UKIP party conference he called for an increase in VAT on “luxury goods” such as shoes. The idea became known as the “Wag Tax” and caused so much embarrassment that Nigel Farage personally ticked off O’Flynn, and publicly distanced himself from the policy.
Mr O’Flynn then advocated creating a 35 percent tax rate, which would lead UKIP into the general election advocating higher taxes than the Conservatives for those earning £49,000 a year. He is also a firm opponent of flat tax, which was party policy when 25,000 of their members joined.
His opponents are now circulating a letter calling for him to go, which they hope to publish this week. One source who is not involved with the letter told Breitbart London: “He really does need to shut up with all talk of aggressive tax avoidance and bashing big business… It’s a real mistake to have a pinko in such an important position.
“O’Flynn always says he’s never been a member of any other political party. That’s not a good thing, it means he lived through the Thatcher era and didn’t get excited by it.”
Another said: “O’Flynn’s views are very dangerous for UKIP, he is determined to pander to the left in seats like Rotherham but this puts our core vote at risk. What’s the point in UKIP if all we do is swing with wind like the mainstream political parties. We’ve always prided ourselves on being above chasing whatever the latest opinion poll says.”
In the Newsnight interview O’Flynn said businesses should not take steps to legally avoid tax: “We have this missing tax revenue, don’t we, we have this big hole despite some decent economic growth. I believe the cosy cartel of corporate Britain has a major role in that, and some of those companies are not paying their way…. We want to be on the side of the people,” he said.
O’Flynn claimed that stopping tax avoidance “should not just be a left-wing point.” During the interview the MEP admitted he had never worked in a business role but claimed his time as a journalist at the Daily Express qualified him to hold his brief.
This led a third detractors to say: “Patrick’s claim to have had a ‘proper job’ is very thin. He is so wrapped up in his London bubble, that he can’t see the difference between reality and the airy fairy ideological talk at dinner parties in Zone 1.”
To view the original article CLICK HERE
& for a different take on this obvious deepening rift of policy and fundamental ideology in Ukip, which shows the party to be in the ludicrous position of Nigel Farage losing his control as the only recognised spokesman and policy inventor in his party to a challenge that can only lead to be the battle for leadership of the party and control of its future direction, as the ambition and diversity of views is palpable and can not contain the two factions in the one party.
This is just as this blog predicted when Farage bribed Patrick O’Flynn to betray his trade ethics as a journalist and write promotional pieces in the Express for a considerable time, without telling his readers that he was to be rewarded with the leading regional position and a near certain walk into the highly rewarded position of MEP, on the list system!
Ukip’s position gets yet more parlous as clearly Douglas Carswell, who now wields considerable clout within the UK base of Ukip as both an ex Tory and an elected MP and it is clear that his position is hugely different to that of Nigel Farage.
Clearly Nigel Farage’s income stream is deeply challenged and he will fight to the death to hang onto his position on the gravy train at all costs – clearly Ukip will be the victim in this three way power struggle.
Whatever the outcome of this rivalry there is no way it can be of benefit to Ukip but the winner can expect to follow Nigel Far5age in being able to make many £Millions personally and have at their disposal a great deal of ‘largess’ to spread amongst his family and chums as Farage has done for many years.

Firing Patrick O’Flynn would signal the start of Ukip’s slide back into fringe insignificance

But what else can Nigel Farage do to maintain his income stream & unique position?

FARAGE, Nigel 94 ORCHESTRATING A DEFECTION 01

The contradictions between Ukip’s Left and the Right threaten to tear the party apart

UK Independence Party (Ukip)

Photo: EDDIE MULHOLLAND
 

I suppose it was inevitable that, as Ukip gathered support, the party would start to collapse under the weight of its own contradictions.

An enormous split has now opened up over the economy. Indeed it is more correct to call it an abyss. It is far deeper and more divisive than anything currently going on inside the Conservative Party, or even in Ed Miliband’s Labour Party.

On the one side is Ukip’s libertarian Right, which wants Britain to resemble the United States as much as possible, with low taxes and minimal standards of social provision.

Its supporters say they look to Margaret Thatcher for their inspiration. But the truth is that Maggie Thatcher in office very rarely touched any of these advanced libertarian ideas, such as the flat tax.

This group cannot count for a great deal of support from ordinary members. It is, however, well represented among the small number of donors who dominate the party finances and can always rely on the ear of Nigel Farage.

Ukip also has a Left wing, and it is becoming clear that the party’s economics spokesman Patrick O’Flynn is its leader.

At Ukip’s party conference six weeks ago, Mr O’Flynn made a speech that appalled the libertarian Right of the party. Ever since then, its supporters have been intriguing against him and seeking to bring about his downfall.

There are two key elements of Mr O’Flynn’s speech. On the one hand, Mr O’Flynn advocated sharply raising income tax thresholds, so that middle earners did not come into the top rate of tax. This idea was promptly copied by David Cameron in his speech in Manchester the following week. Mr O’Flynn’s second idea was a tax on luxury goods, the so-called “Wag tax”. However, Ukip’s Right wing got hold of Nigel Farage immediately after Mr O’Flynn’s speech and forced the Ukip leader to distance himself from his economic spokesman.

The party’s Right is now planning to strike again against Mr O’Flynn, as Andre Walker this morning reveals in a well-informed piece on Breitbart. According to Mr Walker, the senior members of Ukip are now making a concerted effort to get Mr O’Flynn removed.

One source is quoted as saying that Mr O’Flynn needs “does need to shut up with all talk of aggressive tax avoidance and bashing big business … It’s a real mistake to have a pinko in such an important position …” According to Breitbart, a letter will soon be circulated calling for him to go.

I should declare an interest. Mr O’Flynn was my colleague for many years on the Daily Express. He is a man who’s integrity and intellect I greatly admire. With his first-class degree in economics from King’s College Cambridge, he has always struck me as far more intelligent, and also far more connected with the views of ordinary voters, than George Osborne, the Chancellor.

I strongly believe that if the Ukip donors succeed in getting rid of Patrick O’Flynn it will mark the moment when the party returns to becoming a fringe movement of no significance. Mr O’Flynn’s emergence as a senior figure within the party has coincided with an exponential growth of party support amongst working-class voters, especially in the Midlands and the North. Indeed, as Matthew Goodwin pointed out in his article in the Telegraph today, Ukip support is by no means dependent on a small number of former Thatcherites.

Mr Farage claims to represent a different kind of politics to the mainstream political parties. There is some truth in this, but he is every bit as dependent on big powerful donors as is either David Cameron or Ed Miliband. He is in danger of allowing this dependence to damage the integrity of his party, with just six months to go before the general election.

To view the original of this article CLICK HERE
Further provenance of this chasm that is growing ever wider in Ukip is shown by Sean Howlett in his internal letter to Steve Crowther as leaked to Guido Fawkes today:
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Ukip Does Itself No Favours With Its Lack Of Leadership Skills

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/11/2014

Ukip Does Itself No Favours With Its Lack Of Leadership Skills
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Ukip Does Itself No Favours With Its Lack Of Leadership Skills & endless childish antics for attention, even Ukip leading lights know not to trust them!

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let us consider the truth of Nigel Farage’s long term friend, travelling chum, drinking buddy and flatmate:
‘Mr Farage is much more useful with a knife than a gun, given the number of colleagues he has stabbed in the back.’

Although Ukip would like to pretend they have sound policies and a role to play, will their corruption and infighting, lack of leadership skills and chav behaviour, stunts and ill manners and clear lack of understanding of the issues actually lose a referendum for us – a referendum of which the outcome is inevitable eventually, even if Ukip destroys our chances this time there is little or no doubt Britain will Leave_The_EU in the long run.

 

Sadly the longer Ukip condemns Britain to being a vassal state within the incompetent, corrupt and profligate EU the greater the damage Britain will suffer, distanced as it is from the actual global law makers and unable to negotiate for our own global interests direct with The WTO, The IMF, The WHO, CODEX, The UN and the like – distanced by the footlings of the EU as it rubber stamps the international agreements in a pretence of authority and intellect!

Posing with a gun, meet Ukip’s new secret weapon: Farage hires ‘professional wind-up merchant’ to help turn party’s poll surge into more Commons seats

Raheem Kassam has been described as ‘wildly self-important’
And ‘trained in the arts of vicious American-style attack politics’
Appointment somes as MP Mark Reckless looks set to win seat
By GLEN OWEN

PUBLISHED: 21:59, 15 November 2014 | UPDATED: 08:16, 16 November 2014

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This is the man Ukip leader Nigel Farage hopes will help his party win this week’s Rochester and Strood by-election – posing proudly with a real handgun.

Raheem Kassam has been hired as the Ukip leader’s new election strategist, and tasked with turning the party’s poll surge into more Commons seats.

Mr Kassam’s appointment was proving controversial even before The Mail on Sunday unearthed the gun picture, which was taken on a recent visit to America.

‘TROUBLESOME’: Ukip’s new election strategist Raheem Kassam poses with a real gun

‘We WILL win!’ UKIP’s Nigel Farage on next by-election

Critics have described Mr Kassam variously as ‘troublesome’, ‘wildly self-important’ and ‘a professional wind-up merchant’.

And last night Godfrey Bloom, the former Ukip MEP who used to share a flat with Mr Farage in Brussels, warned: ‘This typifies the triumph of style over substance in the party – hiring flash gurus purely for effect. Where are our policies? We are now as bad as all the other parties.

‘Mr Farage is much more useful with a knife than a gun, given the number of colleagues he has stabbed in the back.’

It comes as polls put former Conservative MP Mark Reckless on course to win the seat for Ukip on Thursday and become the party’s second MP, following fellow defector Douglas Carswell’s triumph in Clacton last month.

David Cameron warned yesterday that a win for Ukip would cause ‘economic instability’, because it reduced the chances of a Tory General Election win. He urged voters not to give Mr Farage cause to have another celebratory pint.

‘If they vote Ukip… it’ll be another sort of notch for them,’ the Prime Minister said at the G20 summit in Brisbane. ‘They will all celebrate with a pint in the pub and there will be a greater danger of insecurity and instability in our economy.’

Although Tory strategists initially pledged to ‘throw the kitchen sink’ at Rochester to try to deprive Mr Farage of another scalp, they now privately concede that a Conservative victory is unlikely.

Instead, the town will be flooded with heavyweight Cabinet Ministers in ‘one last heave’ this week in an effort to limit Mr Reckless’s majority and to deter further Tory MPs from defecting. They remain confident of reclaiming the seat at the General Election in May.

Labour is also watching the result nervously, with a poor result likely to pile the pressure on Ed Miliband’s strained leadership.

Mr Kassam has courted controversy throughout his career. He is a former manager of the Student Rights organisation, which claims to ‘ensure freedom of speech and freedom from political oppression for students’. In February, he helped to establish a London outpost of Breitbart, a Right-wing US-based news and opinion website.

David Cameron warned yesterday that a win for Ukip would cause ‘economic instability’, because it reduced the chances of a Tory General Election win
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David Cameron warned yesterday that a win for Ukip would cause ‘economic instability’, because it reduced the chances of a Tory General Election win

The picture is understood to show Mr Kassam on a visit to a ‘gun roadshow’ in America. The 28-year-old – said by one political commentator to have been ‘trained in the arts of vicious American-style attack politics’ – agreed in 2010 to set up a British wing of the Tea Party, the ultra-conservative American movement which advocates low taxes and a small state.

Ironically, given the picture, Mr Kassam insisted that although the British Tea Party shared its American counterpart’s libertarianism, it was ‘less concerned with God, guns and gays’. On one occasion, he outraged members of the ethnic minority community by backing racial profiling, saying the Security Services should be allowed to single out those who look as if they might follow Islam, on the grounds they are statistically more likely to be involved in terrorism.

In an article, he said: ‘Once people who look like me stop blowing themselves up, then I’ll get upset at being profiled. Not before.’ On another occasion, after being accused on social media of ‘flirting with anti-Muslim bigotry’, he responded: ‘I’m a flirtatious kind of guy.’

Mr Kassam, who has reputation for ‘trolling’ Left-wing writers by leaving critical remarks under their internet articles, has also been described by the Right-wing Spectator magazine as being ‘a troublesome… wildly self-important figure who flits about on the internet Right’.

The picture of Mr Kassam emerged just a few months after Mr Farage criticised former Prime Minister Tony Blair’s decision to criminalise the carrying of handguns, saying: ‘If you criminalise handguns then only the criminals carry the guns.

‘It’s really interesting that since Blair brought in that piece of law, gun crime doubled. I think the ban on handguns is ludicrous.’

When asked to comment yesterday on the gun pose and explain the circumstances, a Ukip spokesman said: ‘We all think he makes rather a dashing James Bond.’

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Minded of just how untrustworthy Ukip are as allies of friends and how Nigel Farage has personally been responsible for hatchet jobs on so many in Ukip, including many who thought he was their friend, just what reasons are there to trust Ukip in any position of authority – particularly when it see4ms more than clear that Ukip are all too willing to ‘fit up’ associates and friends as with Jasna Badzak (for details CLICK HERE), John West, Nikki Sinclaire, myself – all of whom have been lied about in efforts to use corruption of the British Justice System and bent coppers for the odious aims of Ukip’s undeniably corrupt leadership team.
Then you will clearly recall that Ukip despite their ‘claims’ of wishing to Leave_The_EU took absolutely no action to oppose the EU’s New Constitution Lisbon Treaty, aftyer 21 years has absolutely no vestige of a responsible honourable EU exit & survival strategy and actively campaigned against efforts to implement a Referendum for an IN / OUT vote on the EU.
With the constant bullying, dishonesty, corruption and lies of Ukip’s leadership its clique and its claque of self interested sychofants hoping for preferment one has to ask just how stupid are the British public in willfully voting for such odious ingrates?
I do note Ukip’s target market nowadays would seem to be any gutter filled with malcontents and failures, much the same as the anti British target market of both Plaid and The SNP seeking to break up our stable, if faulty, political structure and the unity of these United Kingdoms, for their own vain glory and malign ends, rather than seeking to build and improve they seek power through destruction.
Ukip are not without well known examples they follow:
Adolf Hitler, Francisco Franco, Che Guevara, Hugo Chavez, Vladimir Lenin, Fidel Castro, Benitto Mussolini and others who pandered to the under belly of society, in their day in their respective countries, in their over arching ambition for publicity and ‘power’ and its trappings – regardless of the damage done to their societies and the catastrophic outcomes in all but a tiny tiny minority of cases!
For a better understanding of just how corrupt Ukip leadership is do not take my word alone for it – may I suggest you read the comments of a few of their elected insiders CLICK HERE and HERE, also HERE plus HERE and HERE and HERE also HERE to start out on the trail of learning the facts.
There is a huge amount more detail and facts CLICK HERE
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GUEST POST: Ten reasons why I won’t be joining UKIP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 14/11/2014

GUEST POST: Ten reasons why I won’t be joining UKIP
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GUEST POST:

Ten reasons why I won’t be joining UKIP from a very Tory perspective!

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More and more often I’m asked if I will defect to UKIP. I can understand why. I’m no admirer of David Cameron’s zig-zagging leadership of the Conservative Party. I support leaving the EU. I resent the way George Osborne span last week’s extra £850 million payment to the Brussels bureaucracy as some sort of victory. I share UKIP’s opposition to Britain’s futile but expensive climate change policies. I’ve also tried to understand the motivations of UKIP’s voters rather than shout them down as racists.

All of my experience suggests that the vast majority of Kippers are patriotic, decent Britons who worry about the direction of the country and are often victims of very tough economic circumstances. I admire many of UKIP’s leading lights, notably Douglas Carswell, Patrick O’Flynn and Steven Woolfe. I feel philosophically and temperamentally closer to them than some prominent members of my own party – Matthew Parris or Ken Clarke, for example. But I’m not going to leave the Conservative Party.

Although there’s more in UKIP that I like than I dislike (it’s largely a party of the centre right after all) I want to fight for the Conservatives to again become Britain’s dominant party – rooted in the centre right, a broad church and committed to a one nation politics. I may feel closer to Douglas Carswell than Matthew Parris; to Patrick O’Flynn rather than to Ken Clarke but the bigger truth is that I’m much closer to Dan Hannan than to Nigel Farage, to Owen Paterson rather than Diane James or to Iain Duncan Smith than to Mark Reckless.

Here are ten quick reasons why I won’t be joining UKIP:

  1. UKIP is the EU’s best hope of avoiding a referendum. I agree with what Douglas Carswell once believed: “Only the Conservatives will guarantee and deliver an In /Out referendum. It will only happen if Cameron is Prime Minister”. If you vote Conservative you maximise your chance of David Cameron and pro-referendum Tory MPs staying in power. If you vote UKIP you might get Ed Miliband – as Nigel Farage now concedes.

  2. UKIP is not a friend of its poorest voters. UKIP is doing particularly well in more disadvantaged parts of Britain that haven’t done well during the global recession or indeed during the preceding years when less skilled work lost much of its market value. Its tax policies won’t benefit the lowest-paid workers, however. 85 per cent of the benefit of its policy to increase the starting rate of income tax will go to the top half of earners. This is also true of the Tory and LibDem pledge but I thought UKIP was supposed to be different? Moreover UKIP would take the poor backwards on some key fronts. Both Mark Reckless and Douglas Carswell have fought hard against Tory housebuilding plans that would reduce the cost of housing to first-time buyers. Many in the Tory Party are too NIMBYist but the problem in UKIP is even more serious – perhaps because its voters are so much older than any of the other parties?

  3. UKIP is divided. Forget for the moment the historic fallings out. I mean, for example, what UKIP’s founder Alan Sked thinks of Mr Farage. Or what Godfrey Bloom thinks. Or Marta Andreasen. I’m thinking about the future tensions. Mark Wallace has expertly highlighted the looming differences between Douglas Carswell and Nigel Farage. UKIP is in danger of making the People’s Front of Judea look coherent. They have one policy that unites them – leaving the EU. Not much else.

  4. UKIP is amateurish. If you vote UKIP you could end up with almost anything in the way of policy. At the Eastleigh by-election it was promising lots of increases in spending and lots of tax cuts. Even Ed Balls is better at sums. At its recent Doncaster conference its Treasury spokesman Patrick O’Flynn announced a tax on luxury goods only for it to be disowned by Nigel Farage 48 hours later. Mr Farage has a habit of disowning UKIP policies. He described his own party’s 2010 manifesto as “drivel”. He didn’t admit that to voters at the time. So much for straight-talking.

  5. UKIP is unfinished. I sat on a panel on the fringe of UKIP’s recent conference. It was remarkable to see two front bench spokespeople – Steven Woolfe and Patrick O’Flynn openly disagree about the desirability of a flat tax. UKIP started as a “non-racist, libertarian party” committed to leave the EU. It hardly talks about leaving the EU anymore. It increasingly focuses on immigration. It opposed gay marriage in order to reinforce its support among older voters. It’s currently more conservative than libertarian but soon may be more left-wing than conservative. In reaching out to Labour voters it has become anti-reformist on the NHS but, in a leftover from its earlier days, it still promises to cut tax for the rich. Contradictions don’t always matter in opposition. The Liberal Democrats who played left in the north and right in the south for twenty years were only found out in government but UKIP is not only an incoherent political force its ambitions to win in Labour as well as Tory backyards is resulting in even more and more incoherence. Join this moving vehicle at your own risk. Its destination is unknown.

  6. UKIP has no long-term economic plan. Ed Balls has his banker bonus tax. He’s spent it five or ten times, depending on whose list you trust. UKIP isn’t any more honest than the shadow chancellor. UKIP say it’ll pay for everything by leaving the EU or cutting aid to the poorest and hungriest people of the world. This would only pay for, perhaps, a quarter of Britain’s borrowings. UKIP has no plan to rebuild the northern economy, eliminate the deficit or reform welfare. It is not a party of tough choices but this is a time when very tough choices are necessary.

  7. UKIP is isolationist. I am proud to be part of a country that shoulders its global responsibilities. While I want Britain to leave the EU it’s because I don’t want to be shackled to an out-of-date project that is in serious global decline. Farage says he wants a globalist Britain, too. I’m not so sure. I’m proud of our partnership with America in punishing aggression. Proud of our armed forces. Proud of the humanitarian good that our aid budget does. Nigel Farage’s desire to slash the aid budget, his opposition to action against ISIS and his admiration for Vladimir Putin’s skills may strike a populist note but they’re not the actions of a great Britain. They deserve the Little England tag.

  8. UKIP is opportunistic. There are many people who oppose gay marriage for principled reasons. I personally support marriage equality but I respect the views of those who disagree. But why did Nigel Farage oppose gay marriage? Because the traditional family is important to him? If it was he would have a developed family policy. As Kathy Gyngell blogs, he hasn’t begun to.

  9. UKIP is undemocratic. Don’t take my word for it – read Roger Lord’s words. He was deselected as UKIP’s Clacton candidate without any internal procedure. It may have been an electorally understandable decision but it certainly wasn’t democratic. I wouldn’t want to be part of a party where my career or my party’s direction was in the hands of any one person.

  10. UKIP is pessimistic. Douglas Carswell’s open and optimistic speech after his Clacton victory was a model for what UKIP might yet become but it was not typical of the party. Speech after speech at UKIP’s Doncaster conference was a rant at the modern world. I know. I was there, sitting through it all. The speech by the party’s health spokesperson, Louise Bours, was so shouty I wanted earplugs by the end of it. And, of course, there are reasons for anger. The decline of home ownership, flat wages for millions, social immobility and the demographic changes that are producing such a misshaped state are grounds for concern but it’s all too negative. Even unBritish. There was even something uncivilised about Nigel Farage’s speech against Herman van Rompuy in the European Parliament. “You have the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low grade bank clerk“? I want the can-do optimism of a Reagan or a Boris at the heart of politics. No nation can advance with pessimism in its fuel tank.

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A final thought.
An eleventh reason.

This particularly fractious time to be a Conservative won’t last. I feel – as many Tories do – that there is a cuckoo in the nest at present and he will be gone on either the day after the next election or a year or two afterwards. At some point in the not too distant future the party will have a leader more in tune with the mood of the Conservative voter and with the lower income, aspirational and patriotic voters that Margaret Thatcher and John Major successfully attracted. The unhappy chapter begun in December 2005 will close.

The Conservatives shouldn’t change their leader before the election, whatever happens in next Thursday’s Rochester and Strood by-election. It is not clear that there is any Tory in parliament who’d do a better job for the Conservative Party next May than David Cameron. Particularly because it is unlikely that a leadership election would be a coronation. It would probably be protracted and divisive. The Tories also have strong assets. The economy is growing. Jobs are being created. Crime is down. Welfare and schools are being reformed. Pensioners have been looked after. Only one party can deliver a referendum on Europe. These remain strong underpinnings of a re-election strategy. They’d not be enough against a strong Labour Party but they might be enough against a Labour Party led by Ed Miliband. He seemed to do enough yesterday to save his leadership.

Moreover, David Cameron is not a terrible conservative. He’s a little bit conservative in every respect. A little bit of a fiscal conservative. A little bit of a Eurosceptic. A little bit of a reformer. A little bit of a hawk on foreign policy. But, while such modest conservatism might have suited happier times, these are not happy times. The European Union of which we are already semi-detached members is failing economically and failing badly. Emerging markets, technological change and open borders are combining to depress the wages of the lowest-paid. Demographic change is distorting the budgets of ageing western electorates such that the British state now spends more than half of its budget on health, welfare and pensions. This is a time for boldness rather than for Cameronism.

Although I think he’s been a strategic amateur the Prime Minister is clearly a natural TV performer and super competent at many of the things a prime minister should be competent at – including at representing Britain at international gatherings and in Commons performances. I was very proud of his responses to the Hillsborough and Bloody Sunday reports. The trouble is that these qualities are less important than a common touch, consistency and skilled party management. The gatekeepers of Britain’s political culture put too much emphasis on the silky sophistication of a Cameron and not only don’t value the raw strategic consistency of a Tony Abbott and Stephen Harper or the folksy charm of a Ronald Reagan or John Key. Worse, they actually sneer at such qualities.

But change is coming. David Cameron may be gone within six months. If he wins the next election he’ll probably go by mid-term, perhaps sooner. Real change must then happen because, by its own objectives, Cameronism has failed. Failed to build Tory support in the north, in urban Britain or among ethnic minorities. Three key tasks will await Cameron’s successor, whoever he or she will be:

  • They will have to begin proper Tory modernisation. David Cameron was not wrong in 2005 to argue that the Tory Party needed to change. This, after all, is a party that last won a general election outright in 1992. But as polling by YouGov for ConservativeHome has demonstrated, Team Cameron undertook the wrong kind of modernisation. The belief was that the Tories were too right-wing (hence the emphasis on not talking about Europe, immigration and crime). The problem was that the party was too biased towards the already wealthy (a reputation that the party tried to tackle with its commitment to the NHS but only reinforced by, among other things, adopting environmental policies that increased fuel bills and also by denying poorer, bright kids the opportunity of a grammar school education). Even now the Tory leadership does not understand the extent of its problem. George Osborne’s decision at the Birmingham Party Conference to announce a freeze on benefits for the lowest paid without asking any other better-off sections of society to make any sacrifices was politically deaf to the party’s greatest challenge. The next Tory leader will only break into Scotland, northern England, the great cities and amongst ethnic minority populations if it offers the two halves of the great Winston Churchill vision: ladders of opportunity so people of every background can climb high and also, often forgotten by Conservatives, the finest social ambulance service in the world, so that no person ever falls too far.

  • They will have to reknit the centre right, Eurosceptic coalition. It’s not yet clear how easy or hard that will be. With six or more MPs in parliament and a large number of second-placed results UKIP might soon be a force to be reckoned with. But if UKIP falls short and if Nigel Farage walks away from his party’s leadership all the internal inconsistencies within UKIP might bubble over. However hard it is some sort of post-election reconciliation will be necessary. That reconciliation might be with UKIP voters rather than with its hierarchy but reconciliation will be necessary – at least as long as Britain’s first-past-the-post system continues.

  • They will have to decentralise the party. We must never get into a position ever again where the Tory Party is run by such a small, very wealthy and not particularly effective clique. There have been members of David Cameron’s circle who have been outstanding. Lord Feldman springs to mind. He has transformed the Conservative Party’s finances. Overall, however, it couldn’t win a majority against Brown, has presided over the biggest ever split on the centre right of British politics and its only hope of winning the next election is the fact that Labour replaced Gordon Brown with someone even less electable. There are divisions across the Right in all parts of the world but the lack of internal democracy has forced Tory divisions into the open and many natural Tories out of the party. The split on the American Right has been contained within the Republican Party by the US system of primary elections. This has meant, on occasions, some very odd candidates have been nominated by the GOP for the Senate in particular. It has been messy but the party has stayed together – and triumphed in last week’s mid-terms. Robust systems of internal democracy might have meant certain policies that I, personally, support – including equal marriage and the 0.7 per cent aid target – might have been blocked. I would have argued for them but party members and MPs deserve to be consulted more often than at a once-in-a-decade leadership election. Every MP in the next parliament should have a job (running the UK equivalents of Battleground Texas, for example (of which more on another occasion)). There should be an elected Tory board and Chairman with the responsibility to think about the long-term health of the Tory Party. The whole party apparatus should not be obsessed with helping the current leader survive beyond the annual electoral cycle. Fundamental change is needed in party organisation if it is to think long-term about rebuilding in the northern cities, changing the profile of party candidates and – the previous theme – remoralising the Tory brand.

UKIP is partly the product of both lousy party management and strategy by the current Tory leadership. Its best members can teach the Conservative Party a few things but it is not the answer to Britain’s key challenges. The Conservatives might just limp over the finishing line at the next election under David Cameron’s leadership but fundamental change is still needed if the party is to win an election and, most importantly, deserve to win it.

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Is John Major Actively Campaigning For Ukip?

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Is John Major Actively Campaigning For Ukip? Having lost his own election & let Labour in for 13 unlucky years of Labour economic illiteracy and missrule!

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you will no doubt remember how John Major and his inability to control the sleaze in his party  and having split it down the middle in his grovelling pursuit of a place in the EU lost the election for the Tory party and handed Britain to the catastrophic 13 unlucky years of Labour missrule and economic stupidity.
Now you will note he seeks to ensure David Cameron’s party looses as profoundly as did he by trying to ‘sell’ the failing, corrupt, outdate and odious EU as of any value to Britain.
David Cameron and his present day Tory party have a steep enough mountain to climb without the damaging involvement of the ultimate Mr. Grey – John Major.
John Major couldn’t do more to help Nigel Farage’s Cult if he tried!
John Major’s visit to Angela Merkel may well have been on behalf of his bosses’ arms dealings and dubious trade deals that cross so many borders with American The Carlysle Group.
That Carlysle Group t6rades around the world with no regard to borders when clearly being american is not a member of the EU and shows that being a member of the EU is of no material benefit to international trade – showing Britain would be in the same position as The Carlysle Group when we Leave_The_EU, unfetterd by the footling interference and corrupt incompetence and prejudices of that membership of the EU brings with it.
John Major has also shown that when it comes to the crunch he is forced to apeal not to the British el;ectorate but to Britain’s masters in the EU where the ultimate power lies not in our less than 8% say over our own destiny but where Angela Merkel’s authority comes before that of the British Government, the British Prime Minister and even the British electorate!
What more could John Major do to bolster the position of Nigel Farage and his cult following?
Last time John Major had influence he betrayed his party and the British peoples by granting victory to Labour!
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John Major may be able to convince Angela Merkel that a British exit from the EU would be catastrophic but without such lies, distortions and exaggerations supported by F.U.D. and EU interference + Government money for the pro EU campaign he would be unable to convince a majority in Britain to remain in the EU with the loss of control that brings.
It took lies, distortions and exaggerations supported by F.U.D. and EU interference + Government money for the pro EEC campaign to ratify membership of the then EEC / Common Market in the last referendum, 40 years ago!
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Ukip, Like Achillies, Was Dipped In The Water

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let us not forget that with the approval of its NEC, MEPs and Glorious Leaderr, Nigel Farage not only commended Ukip’s 2010 Manifesto, going so far as to write its forward and give it his personal impramature praising David Bannerman for having put together such a comprehensive publication.
There was nor so much as a bleat from the sheep he controls with some of the most unpleasant and dishonest sheep dogs Britain has ever seen in modern politics.
Yet expediency has now led him to denounce his own protege as ‘drivel’ and pretend he had no idea what was in it ‘I never read it’! Can one take as serious a political party that is so incredibly irresponsible merely on the fact that itsonly recognised salesman and undeniable authoritarion controller seems not to be able to hold a thought in his brain beyond his 3 set speeches and todays 90 second sound bite.
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A measure of just how lightweight Ukip really is is shown by the fact that after 21 years of pretending to a policy of Leave_The_EU it has absolutely zero responsible, honourable, workable exit and survival strategy – only hiding its nakedness behind their new found meme of Brexit which clearly is no prize winner and not only unworkable but is inconclusive.
It seems all too clear Ukip are only there for the glory &
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Mark Reckless is set to win next week’s Rochester & Strood by-election with a lead of 12 percent, a poll commissioned by Lord Ashcroft suggests. Ukip gets 44 percent, the Conservatives 32, Labour 17 and the Lib-Dems a mere two percent.

However, only 72 percent of those intending to vote for Ukip next Thursday are likely to repeat the experience in May, leading to suggestions that the Conservatives will retake the seat at the general.

That much would be par for the course. It is not uncommon for by-election wins to be reversed once the drama of the special circumstances have abated, so it is quite possible that Mr Reckless’s new-found career as a Ukip MP might be short-lived.

However, there is another reason, aside from Lord Ashcroft’s poll, and it is one which may well have more general effect, possibly helping to bring crash the Ukip effect altogether. Such would be a much overdue corrective to a situation that has fed on the disintegration of classic party politics, which are becoming weirder by the day.

Predictions in this game – especially as to timing – are always fraught, but what is of special interest is this article in the Guardian, which takes apart Farage, in particular, and Ukip in general, over the inconsistencies in their policy statements.

We’ve been long convinced that these inconsistencies are Ukip’s Achilles’ heel, and our Pete has been doing a heroic job over at Complete Bastard analysing the increasingly dysfunctional mindset. But, while real Conservatives can beat Ukip where they are weakest, in coming up with sensible policies, what the Guardian has “discovered” for itself could be a game-changer for the “Left”.

Moving on from what Ukipists would call “smears”, the newspaper is now recognised that it has a bottomless well, one which will provide an inexhaustible supply of material to fuel attack copy for as long as there any point in publishing it.

And with the Guardian discovering the motherlode, the BBC can’t be far behind and then, as the Tory tribalism kicks in with the onset of the general election campaign, we may well see the “Right” take turns to capitalise on this weakness.

Parties and politicians can stand most things, especially when they are on the ascendancy, but the one thing that is always damaging is ridicule. And Ukipists have been laying down material for so long now that it would be positively uncharitable not to mine it.

How can one possibly resist the entertainment value of Farage proselytising on an insurance funded health service, only for a spokesman now to say of his opinion, “Obviously things have moved on significantly since then. That was then and this is now. It doesn’t stand up to say that’s still his view”. That, of course, it this week … next week is an altogether different matter. 

Sadly for the party, there is no prospect of a cure for this policy incontinence. The die has already been cast. UKIP has been all over the place for so long that virtually any new material is almost bound to provide ammunition for an “inconsistency” meme. For instance, if anyone cares to look closely at their ideas for free trade and “Brexit”, there is endless scope for amusement.

For all that, the party cannot say it hasn’t been warned. Candid friends have for decades been telling it that its lack of coherent policy is a potentially terminal weakness, but since this has evoked defensiveness and and the tedious, if predictable hostility, few outside the party are prepared to do much more than stock up with the popcorn and wait for the train crash.

Maybe the party will defy all predictions and make it big-time at the general election, but Farage’s latest stunt on a “deal” with Miliband is nothing if not spectacularly ill-timed, and bodes ill for the future. He is shackling himself to the rotting corpse of a failing party leader, as Miliband polls only 13 percent in the leadership stakes.

Nothing on the other hand, is calculated to build confidence in the Conservatives as the alternatives, but with the Scottish Labour Party in a state of collapse and the polls tilting in favour of Mr Cameron’s party, three points ahead of Labour, the only thing that looks capable of stopping them now is Ukip.

When people look at Miliband, they obviously have serious difficulty thinking of him as a prime minister, and with Farage and his train-wreck policies behind him, the Conservatives are struggling to avoid looking an attractive electoral proposition. How ironic it would be if making that so was Farage’s lasting gift to politics.

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>GUEST POST: Apology to John Bickley Failed Ukip Candidate

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/11/2014

>GUEST POST: Apology to John Bickley Failed Ukip Candidate

Hi,

this is an apology to John Bickley sent to me anonymously with the implied intent that it should be published where it would be seen by those seeking the truth about Ukip including the many journalists who are known to read and quote this blog over the years.

I did not notice, or more to the point remember as significant, the original comment seemingly made, which the anonymous author considered to be in need of an apology.

For that matter I paid little or no significance to John Bickley in either of the elections in question as he was a Ukip candidate with little or no realistic expectation of winning – unless of course he had been placed in first or second position on Nigel Farage’s chosen list of MEP candidate, which clearly he was not.

Internal selection, or for that matter elec tion processes in Ukip have been extensively rigged to ensure those candidates who are a direct benefit to Nigel Farage or he himself take the electable positions, replacing those the electorate have or may have chosen.

Many will remember that his lackey Douglas Denny was removed from office as returning officer when exposed as a liar and a cheat by this blog during Farage’s own election as leader! It would seem to be normal practice in Ukip CLICK HERE & many will recall when Douglas Denny as Ukip’s Returning Officer was removed having actively campaigned in the election he purported to adjudicate!

Below is the apology to John Bickley, as received from an anonymous author, thus I can not attest to its accuracy but it does seem accurate on the items which I am certain of.

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A Major Firm Drops Sponsorship Due To Nigel Farage

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Specsavers‘, A Major Firm Drops Sponsorship of a meeting in the Isle of Man Due To Nigel Farage’s involvement.

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it is notable that Ehe Isle of Man Sporting & Dining Club, who are sponsored by Specsavers have had politicians as speakers previously with no mention of difficulty.
Perhaps it was in fact due to the dishonesty of the speaker who had set up an IoM account to reduce tax liabilities yet claimed, as an ex banker he was unaware that the IoM was a tax haven, which for a man who deposited £1/4Million in one payment alone is stunningly implausible!
As I recall Nigel Farage’s first notable visit to the Isle of Man was with Ashley Mote, who he had brought into Ukip displacing his long term allie David Lott as his number two candidate in his EU region for the election of MEPs – in order to enhance his electoral process and provide some gravitas to his campaign.
David Lott was cast aside after years of dedication and loyalty to Farage. Thus Ashley Mote was selected by Farage and placed in position becoming an MEP.
You will note, if you follow Ukip that Farage has enshrined his absolute right to place chums and people of ‘USE’ to him in favourable positions at the expense of democraticly selected candidates. Historically one of Nigel Farage’s greatest allies and operator of this dishonest behaviour was Douglas Denny who has recently found himself the victim of his own methods see CLICK HERE
Sadly it is unlikely that Douglas Denny will have the moral fiber and integrity to tell his tale of just how extensive the corruption in Ukip leadership was, be that in the rigging of elections or in the vanishing of large sums of Ukip members’, supporters & tax payers’ money. It seems all too likely this odious and dishonest little man it too frightened of being embroiled in the criminal proceedings he could instigate with his knowledge and personal involvement – including exposure of the lies and obfusscation surrounding the Ashford scam.
A service that could be given to Justice and the body politic were there honourable men amongst such as Douglas Denny, Mike Nattrass, John Wittaker, John Moran, David Lott, Gerard Batten, Derek Clark, Christopher Gill, Godfrey Bloom, Bruce Lawson and their like but sadly I believe none will have the sense of duty to our Country nor the integrity or honour to step forward and tell the truth.
Do however remember the actions of one honourable man who set the example CLICK HERE

Should have gone to Specsavers? Sponsor drops Farage talk

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Specsavers has asked for its sponsorship branding to be pulled for tonight’s sell-out talk by UKIP leader Nigel Farage.

The event at the Gaiety Theatre in Douglas has been organised by the Isle of Man Sporting and Dining Club.

Specsavers has sponsored the Sporting and Dining Club since 2013.

A spokesman for the company stressed the Specsavers store in Douglas has not pulled its sponsorship of the Sporting and Dining Club but it had requested to the organiser that its logo and name is not included in the publicity for this particular event.

He explained: ‘The reason for this is that Specsavers has no political affiliation and therefore does not feel it appropriate to be associated by name with a lecture given by a political party leader, especially with a General Election on the horizon.’

UKIP leader Nigel Farage is the latest high-profile guest to speak to the Sporting and Dining Club.

Other politicians or former MPs invited to appear have included Respect Party founder George Galloway, former Tory Ministers Ann Widdecombe and Michael Portillo and former Tory peer Jeffrey Archer.

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STUART M

2:55 PM on 11/11/2014

I wonder if he will be making a deposit in an offshore account this time around?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23001529


DASEIN

1:35 PM on 11/11/2014

You have to wonder why they wanted to put their name to this event in the first place?

It is likely to have been due to the fact that by sponsoring the event, by extension, you are showing support for the beliefs he represents. I’d guess Specsavers head office might have made the call to drop the sponsorship.

Such a decision makes complete sense. The man is a vile, albeit laughable character who takes advantage of people’s ignorance/their willingness to believe the nonsense he comes out with.


DASEIN

2:21 PM on 11/11/2014

Unsurprisingly, the thumbs down commence. I say unsurprisingly as most contributors on here appear to be the sort who love to be spoon fed the warm diarrhoea he spouts and regurgitate in poorly constructed posts as if it was their idea all along.

Here’s why sponsoring an event involving Nigal Farage, UKIP leader, would be considered inappropriate by Specsavers.

Specsavers undoubtedly as an employer, have to adhere employment law (I am unsure if they are Investor In People accredited)
I suppose all you PC haters hate the fact that under employment law, you can’t discriminate against people on the basis of sex, age, religion, sexuality, race etc. Whereas Farage and and his party are the complete opposite.

By spreading lies about how Brussel’s is taking over control and immigrants are taking our jobs, he’s got himself into a lucratively paid MEP role because people are foolish enough to believe it. Don’t believe me? Why does Britain First, a violent splinter group of the BNP, have over 20 million followers on facebook?

Interestingly, Farage refuses to publish he’s expenses when he’s acting as an MEP…But that’s okay, he’s fighting for our freedom in Brussel’s against their hostile takeover. Oh wait a minute, just how many meetings has he attended and how many has he voted on out of all those he should have attended?…

UCL reported the other week that EU migrant arrivals between 2001 and 2011 contributed £20bn more in taxes than they received in benefits. Yet in face of actual evidence proving them wrong, xenophobes and racists won’t concede they are full of excrement. Farage will continue to tell you that Romanian’s are coming to take your job. Which is nonsense.

Other members of his party include individuals who have
1 – blamed flooding on gay marriage
2 – opposed foreign aid to ‘bongo bongo land’
3 – told Lenny Henry to emigrate to ‘a black country’
4 – don’t forget their calypso song…

Yeah, so hardly surprising that a corporation like Specsavers do not want to be associated with scum like Mr Farage


STUART M

2:34 PM on 11/11/2014

Some excellent points there.


STUART M

1:04 PM on 11/11/2014

Strange, it’s been on sale for months and they only want to withdraw their name from it now!

There was no problem sponsoring other politicians who have spoken at their events.

DASEIN

2:41 PM on 11/11/2014

I can’t recall if they sponsored the George Galloway evening last November. He’s equally as troublesome/offensive, but maybe not as ‘high profile’…

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>GUEST POST re: The Rotten Core Of Nigel Farage’s Cult

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The Rotten Core Of Nigel Farage’s Cult has seemingly exposed showing just what depravity his executive are willing to stoop to in pursuit of their evil abuse of office for personal gain.

Based upon personal experience, I incline to believe this is just the tip of the iceberg!

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as is well known I have been a follower of Ukip for almost 20 years and although never a member had at one time a close relationship and some considerable influence with its leadership and others, becoming well aquainted with their corruption and increasingly aware that they did not represent ANY of the decent morals and values of the peoples of these United Kingdoms.
I have NEVER had personal political ambitions in politics and was therefore able to take action exposing the corruption of Ukip by its leadership clique and its claque as they sought vain glory for themselves, ulterior motives and enrichment.
I can not confirm all of the details in the Guest Post below but I am inclined to believe it in substance and style and have added numerous other examples, which are readily available amongst over 2,000 blog postings on this web site.
I believe that for the sake of these United Kingdoms Ukip must be cleaned-up so that they can take an active and trustworthy role in extracting Britain from the obscenely costly, odious, arcane and undemocratic EU experiment in neo communist socialism, that in enriching the few has brought misery to so many – be they the huge swathe of unemployed in Spain, the impoverished and bankrupt of Greece, the peoples of West Africa who have their food stolen from their fisheries on a daily basis by the EU fleets or the discontent in Britain of paying £Billions of tax payers’ money for absolutely no gain for the peoples of Britain, merely the enrichment of a small core of bureaucrats, businessmen and an out of touch and out of control self serving political elite and their lackeys – including the State enforcement arm represented by the Police, once servants of the people and increasingly an out of control bullying occupying army.
Ukip had a huge duty to perform but in 21 years it hasabrogated on its responsibilities and betrayed the trust of its electorate, largely genuine, decent, concerned, patriotic folk lied to and deceived by The Nigel Farage Cult and its claque.
Astonishingly in 21 years Ukip not only has failed to structure the most rudimentary of responsible, honourable exit and survival strategies to Leave_The_EU but has failed to show a single clear achievement towards moving Britain one inch closer to the exit door – Their sole achievement has been in promoting themselves to a largely gullible, ill informed and trusting electorate to build their own electoral success and income stream
Please be advised that based upon my experience of Ukip and its vile bullying, abuse of the law and lies I believe the facts, as laid out in the article below – particularly as I have seen a considerable amount of hard evidence aupporting the article and now note that DS Reardon & his oppo Galvin have recently been quite clearly destroying evidence!
It is my belief that all cases involving the police officers name should be reviewed by an outside agency as potentially unsound and that the cases against Jasna Badzak and Nikki Sinclaire are beyond doubt unsound and set aside of ALL criminal records against them in these matters, all convictions and all proceedings should be set aside and public appology made.
A great deal of good could be done for the improvement of the standing and public opinion of both police and politicians were a thorough revue and forensic accounting to be undertaken and the prosecution and incaceration of those who have set out to abuse their office and befoul British Justice be made most public.
As investigated by outside agencies that can, unlike the police and politicians can be trusted!

Serious questions have been raised about the abuse of police powers in favour of far right politicians after a whistleblower from nationalist party United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP) claimed to have been framed and intimidated by police officers with extreme right sympathies.

Jasna Badzak, who worked as a press officer for senior UKIP Member of European Parliament Gerard Batten before reporting his incitements to racial hatred to the police, has revealed that she believes she was the target of a criminal conspiracy by several officers to set her up. An anonymous journalist involved in reporting Badzak’s case has since sent evidence to former Conservative MP Louise Mensch which, if true, “threaten[s] them if they wrote negative stories on Batten”.

Ms. Badzak started working for UKIP in November 2010, having previously left the Conservative Party after becoming disillusioned. She felt that accusations in the mainstream media claiming that UKIP is a racist party were overblown, but after only a few months became convinced of the party’s “racist and fascist underbelly”, as she told campaigner Lee Jasper. Batten himself is reported to be friendly with numerous extreme right groups and known anti-semites.

A known Islamophobe even amongst other party members, Batten wrote a confidential paper in 2011 addressed to a Christian group in which he argued for a ban on halal meat, outlawing Islamic banking, and forcing all Muslims to sign a code of conduct. Badzak, who had access to the draft long before it was leaked to the press earlier this year, expressed her disgust at her boss’s views to party leader Nigel Farage, who is said to have expressed sympathy but done nothing.

Jasper reports that Badzak was told by Farage that he and Batten shared “mutually destructive information on each other”, echoing an earlier comment by former party MEP Nikki Sinclair that “anyone who has ever questioned or stood up to Farage has basically been destroyed. Gerard Batten challenges Nigel and always survives. My belief is that he’s the one who Nigel puts up [with] and controls.”

Sinclaire added, “I know him and Farage don’t get on. I question how he can survive in UKIP. They’re not good friends. My only conclusion is that he controls him.”

After having her complaints within the party repeatedly ignored, Badzak eventually turned to the Metropolitan Police to report the draft, and in May 2011 she submitted further evidence of EU expenses fraud in the party, as well as of a senior UKIP member possessing child pornography. All of her complaints were handled by an officer named Detective Sergeant Shaun Reardon.

Following this reporting, Badzak and her family were repeatedly harassed and violently threatened at their home by groups of random strangers who she suspects were members of the English Defense League (EDL), the far right’s current Sturmabteilung of choice, with whose leadership Batten had previously met. Ms. Badzak reported each incident to the Metropolitan Police, all of which were also handled by Detective Sergeant Shaun Reardon. This campaign of targeted intimidation by thugs continued for 13 months without any investigation by the police, despite constant complaints.

In February 2012 Badzak attempted to seek a restraining order in court on Batten, where one Detective James Galvin testified for Batten (having embraced the MEP upon entering the courtroom). Galvin told the court that the police had no active police investigation into Batten, which was much later revealed to be a lie, as the Metropolitan Police has since admitted – but not before this resulted in Ms. Badzak’s case being dismissed.

Batten then wrote to the Metropolitan Police on October 5th 2012, reporting fraud allegations against her on UKIP letterhead – an act that Lee Jasper wrote in his blog “must constitute an attempt to politically influence the investigation”. The police responded quickly, arresting Badzak on November 29th.

The two officers arresting her were Reardon and Galvin.

After being charged with fraud on evidence which, according to Jasper “seemed incredibly flimsy” and to Mensch was “totally unsafe”, Ms. Badzak wrote to Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, demanding to know why her complaints had been ignored while Batten’s had been handled immediately. The internal Department of Professional Standards replied to inform her that the MPS employed no such named officers, and even after persisting was repeatedly told this.

Ms Badzak then wrote to the Independent Police Complaints Commission, who after some time eventually sent her the same reponse, that there were no police officers named Reardon or Galvin. Finally, she wrote to David Cameron and Boris Johnson, both of whom wrote in turn to the MPS and both of whom were told, in writing, the exact same thing. This means that the Metropolitan Police and the IPCC both misled the Prime Minister, with Jasper speculating “possibly wilfully”.

Reardon and Galvin each testified in court against Badzak, and under cross-examination said that they had “no idea” why written confirmation that they were not serving police officers had been received by Ms. Badzak, the Prime Minister, the Mayor of London and the IPCC. This was summarily ignored by the judge, who passed Ms Badzak a one-year suspended jail sentence of 28 months, around double the average sentence and an especially harsh sentence for someone with no prior convictions.

In April 2014, Badzak and Jasper were told by a police superintendent that five separate UKIP investigations were being reopened, including her complaints predating Batten’s fraud allegation. They provided the superintendent with “strong witness evidence” that two other officers, Detective Inspector Fleming and DC Tony Holden, contacted prominent journalists and threatened them with arrest if they published any negative press on UKIP – both now under investigation on suspicion of harassing journalists and potentially perverting the course of justice.

This should have brought Badzak a reprieve, now that officers suspected of abusing their powers for political purposes were being pursued, and yet in June 2014 she was contacted by Detective Sergeant Christopher Page, of the same police station as the one in which she testified against Fleming and Holden (Charing Cross). Page wanted Badzak to come in to interview about “very allegations” related to her “twitter harassment of Gerard Batten” and “talking to Lee Jasper” – who due to his anti-racism activism throughout the years is no friend to the Metropolitan Police.

It turned out that Badzak’s ‘harassment’ of her old boss had been the retweeting of an article in the Sunday Times, a respected national daily, that was critical of UKIP.

This is not the first time UKIP has called the police on someone for legitimately criticising them on Twitter. Michael Abberton, a Green Party member from Cambridgeshire, was visited in May by two country police officers after tweeting a poster against UKIP. The officers in question asked Abberton to take it down, even though they had no legal basis to do so, with Abberton later commentating that it was “not a police matter.”

Such ‘light touch’ policing may well be polite in its manner, but the lack of a mandate to do so raises questions about why it was considered worthy of police time in the first place, and under whose authority the case was pursued.

After Detective Sergeant Page threatened Ms. Badzak over the phone not to tweet against Batten or talk to Jasper, she stated for the record the following:

“UKIP is criminal fascist organization. I stand 100% behind that and under Article 10 of European Convention of Human Rights incorporated in British law as Human Rights Act 1998 I have a right to freedom of speech and there is nothing you can do about that. You can also not order me to keep quiet or not to tweet. I know you would like to silence me completely, to muzzle me but you can’t despite your telephone threat not to tweet”.

Responding to this, Page attempted to lie, denying that he threatened her in the way that she claimed – but Ms Badzak had taped the phonecall. Page is now under investigation. However, Badzak still faces an appearance in court on November 26th, and Jasper has called for the public to support her against political persecution outside West London Magistrates court that morning, launching the #Justice4Jasna hashtag on Twitter.

In the meantime, Louise Mensch has stated that she will be submitting the evidence that she has received to the Internal Police Complaints Commission, the Home Affairs Select Committee, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner and the Electoral Commission.

Throughout the weekend, Mensch tweeted that Detective Sergeant Shaun Reardon has since deleted much of his online presence, such as his LinkedIn account, and shared screenshots of the Facebook profile of Detective Sergeant James Galvin, showing several posts in support of UKIP and a meme with what appears to be anti-Irish slur. It has also emerged that the names matching that of Galvin and his wife appeared on leaked British National Party membership lists.

Mensch has pointed out in an update to this story that the actions of Galvin and Reardon, who both have clear UKIP sympathies, represent “a colossal conflict of interest” which “goes beyond any kind of politics to the very deepest, darkest abuses of our capital’s major police force against a private citizen”.

While the investigations into the abuses of these officers are ongoing, more light must be shed on several aspects of this worrying string of abuses. The rapid gains of the extreme right across Europe have coincided with an increase in the influence of fascist sympathies amongst police forces. The most chilling example is in Greece where senior police figures have raised concerns that the neo-nazi Golden Dawn has infiltrated the police and turns a blind eye to “pockets of fascism”. Given that the police have suffered numerous blows to their credibility of late, such as the fabrication of a quote that led to the dismissal of a government minister and last year’s revelation that undercover cops had stolen the birth certificates of dead infants and fathered children with activists they spied on, the onus must be on them to reassure a skeptical British public that the co-opting of state power by political extremists will not be tolerated or ignored any longer.

Finally, it is worth celebrating the bravery of Nasra Badzak in the face of three years of, at the very least, gross neglect and constant harassment by the Metropolitan Police. Had she chosen not to withstand the barrage of constant bullying, the stress of which has given her a serious heart condition, these questions about the safeguarding of freedom of speech would not now be in the public domain.

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Lies, Damned Lies & Spin From Nigel Farage’s Cult

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/11/2014

Lies, Damned Lies & Spin From Nigel Farage’s Cult
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Lies, Damned Lies & Spin From Nigel Farage’s Cult as Ukip is linked with the gutter sweepings of EU politics to ensure Nigel Farage’s cash flow as they have clearly gone native willing to prostitute themselves to gain the EU’s bribes.

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Hi,
many will remember the lies and spin of Nigel Farage when he promised Ukip would not join with extremists to form a Group in the odious EU parliament
Perhaps Nigel Farage shares the following beliefs but do the grass root members of Ukip or is it just its allies and a few in the Farage Cult?

When a woman says no to sex, she doesn’t really mean it – Polish MEP

Lizzie Dearden

Published 09/11/2014 | 16:02

Janusz Korwin-Mikke, leader of the eurosceptic Congress of the New Right party, casts his ballot for the European Parliament elections at a polling station in Warsaw.
Janusz Korwin-Mikke, leader of the eurosceptic Congress of the New Right party, casts his ballot for the European Parliament elections at a polling station in Warsaw.

Women only “pretend” they do not want to have sex and their brains are affected by semen, according to the leader of UKIP leader Nigel Farage’s latest political ally in Europe.

Polish party the Congress of the New Right (KNP) gave Ukip the last member it needed to maintain the influence and funding of its 48-strong Europe of Freedom and Direct (EFDD) alliance with the arrival of Robert Iwaszkiewicz.He came under fire in Poland for comments on domestic violence bringing women “down to earth” but later claimed the remarks were ironic.

But his party’s leader and founder, Janusz Korwin-Mikke, is far more up-front about his views, as an interview with The Observer demonstrated.

The 72-year-old told the paper that he wanted to abolish the European Union and replace democracy with an absolute monarchy, or at least deny women the right to vote.

Claiming women’s intelligence could be heightened by contact with male sperm, he told the Observer: “Semen probably is not wasted, because nature usually makes use of the material it has, and there is a hypothesis that the attitudes of men are passed to women by way of the semen which penetrates the tissue…there is a very strong argument for this hypothesis, that now when [oral] contraceptives are much more in use, the women become much more independent.”

Mr Korwin-Mikke, who approved Mr Iwaszkiewicz’s appointment to the EFDD, also called for the standard of proof in rape cases to be changed so two witnesses were needed for a conviction unless there was “some visible sign of rape”.

“Women usually pretend that they don’t want [sex],” he added. “The percentage of women who pretend that they don’t want to have sex, but they do want in fact, is about 30 or 40 per cent.”

The politician, who is also an MEP, was fined earlier this year for using racist language at a debate and caused outrage with comments on the Holocaust.

He said in 2007: “Women still should not have the right to vote. Just choose any political meeting at random and see how many women are present.”

He also reportedly claimed that Hitler would be acquitted from court today as he was not aware of the Holocaust.

“Show me even one sentence of Hitler, that will attest to the fact that he knew about the extermination of the Jews. You will not find [it],” Mr Korwin-Mikke said.

He is not a member of the EFDD, which is made up of 24 Ukip MEPs and a coalition of Czech, French, Italian, Lithuanian and Swedish politicians.

The arrival of Mr Iwaszkiewicz, who is a member of Mr Korwin-Mikke’s party, pushed it above the threshold of 25 MEPs from seven member states needed to maintain the  funding and standing at risk after the defection of a Latvian Farmers’ Union representative.

In the past, he has reportedly publicly defended his leader’s controversial views.

Mr Farage said: “I have found nothing in this guy’s background to suggest that he is a political extremist at all. He has joined our group to save us.”

A spokesperson for the EFDD said Mr Iwaszkiewicz was invited to join as an individual MEP and there was no agreement with his party.

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When the next crisis comes with Nigel Farage’s sordid EFDD Group, in the light of this recent gutter scraping for survival, it is quite reasonable to consider just how low will he sink to hang onto his personal income stream however much it befouls the image of Ukip
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>GUEST POST: Mark Reckless’s Reckless Casual Racism

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Ukip’s Rochester & Strood by  election candidate the Tory turncoat Mark Reckless’s Reckless Casual Racism
regarding Gaddafi’s killing of immigrants on an industrial level!

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I aimed to write of this obscene comment by the turncoat Tory Mark Reckless who is now standing for Ukip, with much expectation of election, in the Rochester & Strood constituency by-election.
In the light of Mark Reckless’ latest ill considered racist remark as detailed, I incline to believe that with an upcoming General Election the Conservatives must be relieved they let him go and he can befoul the reputation of Ukip rather than the Tories!
Having lost my telephone and broadband connection from Sunday evening until late yesterday afternoon, due to the antiquated aluminium cables in my local exchange, I have been struggling to catch up with the follies of Ukip & bringing them to the attention of readers and the media – I therefore have no qualms in dealing with Mark Reckless’ crass and casual racism by copying / Guest Posting an article from another blogger on the subject, with which I largely agree, to assist you in keeping abreast of facts pertaining to Ukip.
>GUEST POST<:

Thursday 6 November 2014

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Spread throughout several newspapers today are the comments from Mark Reckless, former Conservative MP and now UKIP candidate for the Rochester and Strood by-election.

At a rally in the Kent constituency, Reckless – by name and nature it would seem – referred to the growing numbers of migrants trying to make the dangerous voyage across the Mediterranean Sea to Europe. “Whatever people say about Gaddafi”, he remarked, “one thing is he didn’t allow those boats to come across”.

“He had an agreement with Italy that stopped it. Since he’s gone we have no idea what’s going on in Libya, it’s too dangerous for anyone to go there”, he added.

According to the Mail, these remarks are being compared to the famous last excuse for Fascism, “say what you like about Mussolini, he made the trains on time”. But they are far, far worse than that comparison would imply. They are more like applauding Hitler for keeping Jews out of Britain by putting them in the camps – for that is precisely what Gaddafi was doing with migrants passing through his territory – with the complicity of the EU.

Parallels are in many ways absolute. Huge volumes of well-founded evidence, not least from Amnesty, the Global Detention Project and Human Rights Watch attest to the fact that Gaddafi set up many death camps where immigrants were unlawfully detained, tortured and murdered. Many others were trucked into the Sahara and abandoned without food and water.

Altogether, the Gaddafi regime was responsible for the deaths of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of migrants. Yet – despite that – Italy in 2008 concluded a “Friendship Agreement” which had Gadaffi agreeing to step up border controls and to take back “expelled foreigners” from Italy, all in exchange for Italy agreeing to provide Libya $5 billion in infrastructure projects over 25 years.

Italy was already paying for charter flights for Libya to send the people “home”, and had between August 2003 and December 2004 transported 5,668 people to Libya, despite known human rights abuses.

On the back of the agreement, in May 2009, Libya and Italy also launched joint naval patrols in Libyan territorial waters for an initial period of three years, the controversial practice of “push-backs” (respingimento) which was subsequently condemned as breaching human rights law.

Thus, while no one is going to argue with Reckless’s general theses that things are no better in Libya now, after western intervention, to applaud a dictator for his human rights abuses is not the most sensible thing for a politician to do – unless, of course, he represents UKIP.

Enter now Mr Farage who was given the opportunity to implement a deft piece of damage limitation, only for him to agree with Reckless (and incidentally support EU policy), bemoaning the removal of somebody, “albeit an Arab nationalist dictator, who actually gave a level of stability to the area”.

Thus we have senior UKIP politicians applauding a dictator’s use of death camps – a means of immigration control which clearly has the approval of Messrs Reckless and Farage. And with that, it is perhaps unsurprising that UKIP is reluctant to commit its policy to writing – unless, of course, it is waiting for the translation from the original German.

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Interestingly there are similarities between certain aspects of Gaddafi’s treatment of immigrants and the published policy of Ukip as shown in their official pamphlet on the subject published by the Ukip MEP Gerald Batten:
IMMIGRATION POLICY - EUkip 01
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