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Chris PAIN & UKIP’s Dilema Based on Racist Track Record!

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having started a thread on a Forum regarding UKIP NEC member and recently elected Councillor Chris PainBarbara Booker’s comments:

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Under the headline ‘Racist rants of the UKIP councillors’, the Sunday Mirror writes:

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Ukip’s Chris Pain, leader of the opposition at Lincs Council and the party’s East Midlands regional chairman, wrote: “Have you noticed that if you *rearrange the letters in ‘illegal *immigrants’, and add just a few more letters, it spells, ‘Go home you free-loading, benefit-grabbing, resource-sucking, baby-making, non-English-speaking ********* and take those other hairy-faced, sandal-wearing, bomb-making, camel-riding, goat-********, raghead ******** with you.’”

Mr Pain said the comments on his Facebook pages were “not my original posts or writings”, claiming his *account had been hacked.

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What exactly is Chris Pain saying? The so-called joke about rearranging the letters of the words ‘illegal immigrants’ has been around for several years, so the question is not whether it originated from him but whether he has ever posted it to Facebook? Or is he claiming that someone else, having “hacked” his account, posted it to his Facebook page without his knowledge or consent?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news…s-more-1897414


This gave rise to the following response from ex UKIP NEC member Ian Gillman who resigned from the NEC as her was unwilling to be party to the corruption, oaffish behaviour and risk of joint and several liability in the risk of stolen public money and abuse, foul language, lies and bullying!:

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Barboo in # 1 above kindly draws to our attention to alledged writings by UKIP Councillor, Mr Chris Pain of Skegness who also appears to be the East Midlands Regional Chairman and an N.E.C. member.

Mr Pain, it appears; claims that it is ” not my original posts or writings “.

Certain very nasty e-mails written by Mr Pain with numerous contact details for him provided, are in circulation, wherein he denigrates a range of persons. They are all destined for ‘Junius’ as explained and urged by Mr Pain.
There does appear to be a parallel here.

Interestingly a Mr Gwain Towler who is a UKIP paid official I think put out a public statement about certain matters ,appears within one of those nasty e-mails written by Chris Pain. He was certainly given the special Pain treatment, as was Derek Clark MEP, whilst Mr Nigel Farage was described as watching Mr Pain and his activities very closely as Mr Pain describes his intent to deceive.

It does appear that a discliplinary case file that has already been prepared for Mr Pain will have even more to consider now.

Or, would Mr Pain like to deny herein writing nasty e-mails and circulating them ?

Mr Pain sought legal advice from a Mr Don Ransome, the East Midlands Regional Organiser/Press Officer.
Mr Ransome is not qualified to offer legal advice , but never mind that, he offered it.

Would it not be best for Mr Pain to resign as a County Councillor, Regional Chairman , NEC member and from UKIP itself ?
Then, he should write a sincerely apologetic letter to Mr Anthony Ellwood the 15 year serving treasurer ( including a short spell as national treasurer during an interregnum) who during an attempt to reconcile the national accounts uncovered 95% and perhaps even more movements from the account as conversions into cash that went to unknown places. ?
Mr Pain has ( along with his friend Mr Ransome) treated Mr Ellwood shoddily, denigrating him . For what reason we can but ask ?

Gillman’s somewhat obsessive and tediouson the public forum were I gather, seen as libellous as he could not supply the provenance he claimed he had and would not retract his claims relative to Chris Pain!

This led, I had believed, to a lifetime ban for Gillman, though it seems he is still posting as at 22-May!

Also having made a perfectly civil and proper posting in a Private Message to on of the moderators which read as follows:

Quote Originally Posted by Geoffrey Collier
Dear Mr Allen,

You told me originally that my request would be forwarded to Anthony Butcher, while now you seem to have decided the matter yourself. I have just finished a telephone conversation with a barrister who knows much about UKIP, and she said that you cannot deliberately destroy published information, or deny a harmed party access to it for their legal purposes. You are certainly doing the latter of those things. Are you saying quite categorically that Mr Butcher has made this decison, and you are merely communicationg it to me?

If you believe that I have lied on the thread, which I certainly dispute, would you like to identify those lies, and confirm that you are permitted to punish me in the way that you have decided? Mr Fear made a statement on the thread which was wholly false. He seems unable to identify any supporting evidence on Junius. Your claim that I have a history of obfuscation, dishonesty and lying, yet I claim that is untrue, and I have not even a ‘parking ticket’ to blemish my good name. Yours is not a fair description of my reputation. You are protecting Mr Pain, an NEC member, who has used information gleaned by two UKIP employees in the course of their employment, to harm others. There can be no doubt about that.

I get the impression that you are deliberatlely protecting Mr Pain for reasons which have little to do with the interests of BDF. I would like the precise name of the person who finally decides to obstruct my request, if that is what they choose to do. Could I also have the legal status of the BDF; private limited company, etc.
Should it make things easier for you, can we ignore Mr Gillman’s postings, and confine ourselves to those affecting me, and my other witness Mr Ellwood? (1) Mr Fear’s original statement. (2) Mr Pain’s #373 and the ones involving the UKIP HQ manager. (3) Mr Ransome’s statement. If protecting named persons from libellous statements is important to you, I am sure that you will welcome my request.

Geoffrey Collier.


It is self evident that this eMail is at no stage any kind of threat against the Forum but rather a friendly warning from a long term and trustworthy member of both UKIP and the Forum, which UKIP has from time to time had totally dishonest co0ntrol over through, amongst others, the weak, self serving, dishonest and dublicitous Anthony Butcher who has proved time and again to be untrustworthy and only too willing to provide a platform for dishonesty and lies, abuse and libellous fantasies, as long as it suits UKIP and himself.

It is, in my opinion, dishonestly claimed that Geoffrey Collier, in giving friendly advice privately to a moderator has in some way threatened the forum and this has been at best misguidedly but based upon the Forum track record, more likely, dishonestly used to gag a critic of the corruption in UKIP – Geoffrey Collier has been dishonestly banned from posting on the forum for life (as was I( for having made a statement of FACT and provided provenance of the fact!).

Barbara Booker has gone on helpfully to plead Geoffrey’s case as has Niall Warry, another unstinting campaigner for probity, transparency and an end to corruption in UKIP to make it fit for purpose – not just as a one man band being exploited for the benefit of a small clique and supported by their corrupt claque!

Barbara Booker has summarised various facts, pertaining to Chris Pain and his apparent racist outbursts, as follows:

Be careful what you wish for!

The Skegness Standard reported on 20 May:

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UKIP has said it will be forced to eject the party’s newly elected Lincolnshire group leader if allegations he has made ‘racist rants’ on Facebook prove true. Party spokesman Gawain Towler said: “They are serious allegations and if proven true there is no way Chris Pain could remain a councillor with UKIP. However we don’t hang a man until he’s proven guilty and at the moment Chris is saying that his account was hacked.”
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http://www.skegnessstandard.co.uk/ne…ions-1-5108055

If UKIP decides that Chris Pain’s Facebook account was indeed hacked as he says (and it’s now also being claimed on the ‘Lincoln immigration issues’ site that it too has been hacked), then someone will have to explain why he allowed potentially damaging posts that he didn’t make to remain in place for so many months. If, on the other hand, UKIP decides that he did make the posts himself, and takes action against him as suggested by Gawain Towler, then it will only succeed in making UKIP a political laughing stock. Consider these facts:

Despite the impression created by the Sunday Mirror, which described the ‘illegal immigrants’ post as being among “racist rants of the UKIP councillors”, and Hope not Hate which calls it “the most disgusting racist outburst”, Chris Pain was not the author of the piece. It’s a supposed joke which seems to have originated in America in about 2009 and turns up, with slight variations, on numerous websites in the USA, Australia and here. The Chris Pain version is similar to that found on:
http://myrightwingdad.blogspot.co.uk…-lesson-i.html

‘Asylum’, which also appeared on Chris Pain’s Facebook in August 2012, dates back to at least 2001:
http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/1140…cil-house.html

So, if UKIP decides that Chris Pain did post these items, he will be guilty not of having written them himself but of having forwarded them from elsewhere on the internet.

Those with long enough memories may recall an almost identical case in 2006 when a town councillor from Calne in Wiltshire, Conservative Ellie Bland, was suspended by her party for circulating an email containing the ‘Illegal Immigrants Poem’. She told the Wiltshire Gazette & Herald: “The e-mail is a joke email . . . . I didn’t write it I just forwarded it”, though later claiming that “someone else” had sent the email from her address.
http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/ne…racist_e_mail/

Contrast Gawain Towler’s statement above about Chris Pain, with UKIP’s reaction to Cllr Bland and her ‘racist email’. Two months after the story broke, Bland resigned from the Conservatives and was welcomed into UKIP, visited by Nigel Farage, and selected as UKIP candidate for the district council elections. “The support I’m getting is absolutely wonderful”, she gushed, “It’s heart-warming to know a leader will come and visit. If I ring him he answers the phone, talks to me. With David Cameron you could go to a meeting and be lucky to get him to shake your hand.”
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/n…fects_to_UKIP/

UKIP put out an enthusiastic statement, ‘Then there were four’ (26.1.07): “Graham Booth the local MEP said, This is brilliant news”, and even Nigel Farage’s assistant, Annabelle Fuller, had a dig at the LibDems over it on her blog (29.4.2007): “This is the party who caused a huge lot of bother for Councillor Ellie Bland when her husband forwarded an e-mail which was, I think, rather amusing, and accused her of being a ‘racist’.”
http://more-to-life-than-shoes.blogs…1_archive.html

UKIP cannot, in all seriousness, now turn against Chris Pain for exactly the same behaviour as resulted in Ellie Bland’s joining them and receiving such a joyful welcome!

Chris Pain does little to help himself and continue wityh outspoken racist views and values that lead one to believe he is just the sort of individual who would have made the comments on Facebook etc but has actually invoked not just the name of UKIP but his position of responsibility on behalf of UKIP and particularly its electorate in Lincolnshire, as the following article shows:

UKIP members of Lincolnshire County Council refuse to back anti-racism pledge

Friday, May 17, 2013

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All 16 UKIP councillors on Lincolnshire County Council have refused to sign an anti-racism declaration.

Labour’s Rob Parker presented the document to ensure all Lincolnshire residents are treated equality and have access to the same services.

But Chris Pain, leader of the county council’s UKIP group, the official opposition, told today’s annual meeting of the council: “I cannot support this document.

“It actually pushes forward the chance of multiculturalism, one of the fundamental things that’s wrong with our society.

“UKIP’s stance is not racist.

“Our stance is on space and space alone.”

The motion was passed by 60 councillors who voted for it, with 16 abstentions from UKIP.

The party’s own motion to reduce the council newspaper County News to a single yearly issue to cut costsfailed.

Cllr Pain had earlier pressed the council to reduce the amount of money spent on translators in Lincolnshire.

Saxilby ward member Councillor Jackie Brockway, Conservative, said: “I’m very concerned that there’s a theme developing that seems to be attacking the vulnerable and we need to careful about that.”

Cllr Hill said costs had already reduced from £54,000 to £43,000 and that translators performimportant roles in schools and law courts.

Liberal Democrat John Marriott said: “I would hope our colleagues from UKIP come up with some more practical solutionsas to how local government will survive.”

The meeting officially saw council leader Cllr Hill, his executive and committee heads appointed.

After last month’s election, the Conservatives lost overall control. Thirty-six Tories are now in a coalition with three independents and three Lib Dems.

UKIP has 16 seats, there are seven independents in opposition and 12 Labour councilors.

To view the original article CLICK HERE

Barbara Booker recently also pointed out:
Chris Pain has told the Boston Standard (20.5.13): 

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Coun Pain told The Standard that his account had been hacked and that he had not made the post himself. He said he does not agree with the words written and would never use them himself.
He told The Standard: “At the moment I am changing passwords like crazy and putting locks on.”

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http://www.bostonstandard.co.uk/news…cist-1-5109070


What I do not at all understand is, since the post in question was apparently made on 4 November 2012, see http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013…?utm_hp_ref=uk , why Chris Pain didn’t remove it and take action to safeguard his facebook account straight away? Why wait until now, when a post made in his name by someone else has been splashed all over the Sunday Mirror, before changing passwords and putting locks on?

Likewise with the earlier ‘asylum’ post, made 13 August 2012. 

Was he the victim of yet another hacker with that one?
I trust that helps to pull together some of the strands in this ongoing saga regarding UKIP Racism and the part in it which UKIP NEC member and former assistant to UKIP PPC Dick Horsnell from the Isle of Man, who laid the groundwork for much of UKIP’s achievements in the area with his substantial capital injection and committed campaigning via market stalls and carrier bags etc.
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Google Alerts gives us An Excoriating Retort to Farage!

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Google Alerts gives us An Excoriating Retort to Farage!
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Google Alerts gives us the link to An Excoriating Retort to Nigel Farage’s anti Bulgarian rhetoric!!!

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although I do not endorse Mr. Taylor’s vitriolic denigration of these United Kingdoms, as published, particularly his clear willingness to overlook the very much agrarian poverty of the failed economy of Bulgaria after many years of extreme socialism as a vassal of the Communist regime of the USSR.
However it is clear that the extremism of Farage’s UKIP and the racism of their xenophobic Pan EU Political EFD Group lays his party open to extreme denunciation by individuals like Mr. Taylor – however accurate or inaccurate they may be!
I most emphatically do not share the failed socialist aspirations of Mr. Taylor nor his assertions that the levels of uncontrollable influx of different cultures and nationalities to Britain can be seen as beneficial at the unprecedented levels we see as a result of the misfortune of having been betrayed by our self serving and unrepresentative political elite and sold into thrall of the obscenely profligate and corrupt undemocratic EU.
Unfortunately the low grade of Farage’s team inevitably exposes UKIP in particular and EUroScepticism in general to the realisation that Mr. Taylor is clearly not alone in his visceral rejection of Britain and its values but also that he can with some degree of accuracy pen such a letter all be it he uses the opportunity to tag on his anti British personal vendetta.

Open Letter to UKIP’s Nigel Farage on Insulting Bulgarians

Letters to the Editor | March 14, 2013, Thursday| 1742 views

 

Dear Mr Farage,

I read with great interest the open letter to you of Ralitsa Behar, a Bulgarian woman whom having studied in the UK has now returned to her home country. I wish to inform you that as a British man living in Bulgaria I must strongly disagree with her. I do not disagree in any way with her comments and statements and totally support her. But I must disagree with Ralitsa on one fundamental point that she raises – Ralitsa openly invites you to come to Bulgaria and to meet with her and her family. I write to ask you not to come. Personally as a British man I find you remarks so offensive that I would have you stopped at the border. Sadly under European Law I can no longer have you shot in front of your family!

The UK has 78 representatives in the European parliament. UKIP itself has 11 MEPs in the European Parliament. One of which, Roger Helmer was elected as a Conservative MEP but defected to UKIP in March 2012. If we wish to talk about representative percentages, UKIP only has the electoral support of 7.8 percent of British opinion. If we take into consideration the dishonest election of Roher Helmer, call it ‘corrupt’ shall we? A word you like to use in reference to the Bulgarian Parliament – then of that 7.8% of UKIP representation 0.90% are dishonest (That’s one in ten as near as damn it.)

You’re anti- Bulgarian comments have caused great insult so I think what is needed here is to explain to Bulgaria that you most certainly do not represent the political will of the British people. And you most certainly and categorically do not represent me.

During your recent visit to Sofia – accompanied by the tabloid press (the gutter press as they are known) with their average reading age ability of just 11 years you deliberately posed for photographs in the poorest and most impoverished area of the city. The area you chose to focus on in no way represents the reality of this wonderful capital city. You deliberately misrepresented Bulgaria for your own political gain. Without doubt if the Bulgarian press had acted in the same manner, focusing only on the deprivation of British inner-cities – You, Yes you Mr Farage would be most outraged. Let’s take a closer look a Britain, a place where there are 3.6 million British children living in poverty today. That’s 27 per cent of our own children, or more than one in four. Bulgaria’s official poverty statistic ‘for all’ equates to what we have just for children!

And of Bulgarian political corruption, other than of course your own elected MP lying to his electorate and switching party afterward. Have we really and conveniently already forgotten that on 20th May 2009, Harriet Harman announced the creation of the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority, this intended to manage Members’ expenses ending the historical self-policing by MPs of their expenses.

Below just some examples of British parliamentary corruption that I’m sure the Bulgarian population will find most amusing:

The Crown Prosecution Service announced on 19 May 2010 that Labour MP Eric Illsley would be charged with three counts of false accounting; he was also suspended from the Labour Party. It was revealed Lord Taylor of Warwick, a Conservative peer, had been charged with six counts of false accounting. On 13 October 2010 it was also announced that former Labour MP Margaret Moran would also be charged with false accounting, while on 14 October 2010 former Minister of State for Europe and Labour MP Denis MacShane was also referred to the Police – as a consequence of which he was also suspended from the Labour Party. Three Labour Peers were suspended on 18 October 2010 due to their expenses claims: Lord Bhatia was suspended from the House of Lords for eight months and told to repay GBP 27,446; Lord Paul suspended from the House of Lords for four months and ordered to pay back GBP 41,982 and Baroness Uddin faced a police investigation for alleged fraud for claiming at least GBP 180,000 in expenses by designating an empty flat, and previously an allegedly non existent property as her main residence. She was suspended from the House of Lords until the end of 2012 and required to repay GBP 125,349.

In reference to these ‘Bulgarian Hordes’ whom you claim will swamp our country. In actual fact more people are leaving than arriving and within this number I include myself. I have left Britain and have no intention of ever returning. I would not trade in my new life here in Bulgaria for anything Britain could now offer. It doesn’t have anything to offer. The only jobs that the majority of immigrant EU workers do are the worst and lowest paid on offer – the jobs that the British themselves will not do. The same jobs that you and your right of centre buddies like to claim do not exist – but are now somehow suddenly found and stolen by ‘foreigners’.

Britain is a much greater country because of the historical and essential input of our ethnic minorities and foreign labour. Since Bulgaria’s EU membership in 2006 over 30,000 British nationals have purchased property in Bulgaria – Sorry to contradict you but actually we’re all leaving Britain – and I left because of people like you.

Bulgaria is an amazing country, it is full of the most welcoming and beautiful people that I have ever met and you clearly know nothing about it. We ‘The West’ throughout the Cold War undermined Bulgaria and other socialist countries at every opportunity and now that the wall has fallen it is not without just cause (as one of the so called ‘richest countries’ in the world) that we help its people to build a better brighter future.

In protest at your remarks I was going to organise a boycott of British goods but sadly I couldn’t find any to boycott.

But I will say this: You achieve nothing by your racist xenophobic comments other than to further isolate what was a great nation into a ‘backwater has been.’ We need Europe and we need immigrant labour, without which many British industries would and will economically fail. I am a Federalist, I would like to see a borderless and united Europe built upon firm Socialist principles and monetary union.

We agree on one thing, this that you and I could not be further apart on the political spectrum. Please stop claiming that you represent the ‘will’ of the British people – you do not.

Yours,

Jonathan Taylor

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Here is  the letter from Ms. Behar to Nigel Farage:
Bulgaria: Mr. Farage, Come to Bulgaria to See You Are Wrong

UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage has renewed with a vengeance his criticism of Bulgaria in a bid to fuel fears over new immigrants, coming as of 2014.

Speaking last week on BBC’s Question Time, Nigel Farage slammed Bulgaria as a country in a terrible state, where the judiciary is not independent and the mafia basically runs the economy.

On Monday Ralitsa Behar, a young Bulgarian lady, who lived and studied in the UK and chose to go back to Bulgaria and build a career here instead of the UK, circulated to the media an Open Letter to Nigel Farage.

Following is the full text of the letter:

Dear Mr. Farage,

My name is Ralitsa Behar and I am a Bulgarian.

I decided to write to you, because I was surprised by your comments on the BBC1’s Question Time on January 17, 2013. As a person who is Bulgarian, lived and studied in the UK and chose to go back to Bulgaria and build a career here instead of the UK, I wanted to take a stand on your statement regarding Bulgarian and Romanian immigrants and explain why I chose to go back to my home country.

Firstly, I would like to introduce myself and explain my reasoning behind this letter. When I was 18 years-old and was finishing high-school, I decided to continue my education abroad and applied to several universities throughout the UK. I got offers from 4 universities, but finally decided to take upon the offer from the University of Edinburgh, studying BSc (Hons) Mathematics and Business Studies at the School of Mathematics. It was a very proud moment for me and my family, as at it was, and still is, one of the most elite universities, ranked number 20 in the world at that time.

I lived in Edinburgh for 4 years and finished my studies successfully, gaining a 2:1. I can say that I was one of the active students and tried to get the best out of my time in university. I was participating in university societies and their committees, I volunteered in a charity, raising funds for cancer research; I also spend 2 months interning in firm in London, and was later on offered a job position.

I have always appreciated everything that the UK has given me. Firstly, as an EU citizen, I was supported by the Scottish government and did not pay any tuition fee. This was a huge financial relief for me and my family, although we still spent over GBP 50,000 for living expenses. As a student, I was also entitled to free healthcare service, although thankfully I never needed it as much. I also appreciate the fact that I had the opportunity to live and study in one of the best places in the world – I find Edinburgh an incredibly charming and beautiful city with great atmosphere; and the University of Edinburgh – a truly astonishing institution with almost 500 years of history, with great teachers and amazing state-of-the-art facilities.

My strong connection to the UK is the reason why I decided to write this letter. Although I try and understand your immigration concerns, I must admit that I found your comments on Bulgaria untrue and somewhat insulting. In fact, they are only reaffirming my opinion of the wrongful idea that people in the UK and around the world have about countries in Eastern Europe.

I want to clarify, that I am far away from thinking that Bulgaria is doing as well as I hope it would be. I do not live in a bubble where I think that everything here is perfect – I understand our problems with our government, our law system, our education and healthcare systems. Living in the UK for so long only made me realise how much more we need to do, to learn and to grow to make our country better. Nevertheless, I have to disagree with some of the false information that you shared during your appearance on the show.

Firstly, the data that you stated on Bulgaria is untrue:

You said that the average monthly salary in Bulgaria is 200 Euro. According to the National Statistical Institute of Bulgaria, the average monthly salary in the country for the last quarter of 2012 is 754 Levs, which is 385.5 Euro, almost double the number that you said.

You said that the average monthly pension in Bulgaria is 100 Euro. The average monthly pension for 2012 is actually 138 Euro.

You said that almost 50% of the people in Bulgaria live in poverty, however, the number is untrue; it is about 27%, almost two times less.

I was very surprised to hear such false data as I was thinking that a politician as yourself would take the time to check this information, as it is easily accessible online in English.

Nevertheless, I must say that not only the untrue data that you stated on national television bothered me. I believe that statements such as “If I was a Bulgarian, I would be packing my bags now, wanting to come to Britain are bold and somewhat inappropriate. And since you were focusing on the problems in our country and why we would choose to come live in your country, let me tell you why I chose to “pack my bags, wanting to go back to Bulgaria”.

Firstly, Bulgaria is a country with great potential. I am a firm believer that young people, who study abroad should come back to Bulgaria to pursue their career goals. Having a degree from a foreign university, I realised that my know-how would be much more needed here, than in the UK. After all, we are the future of our country and I believe that we are the ones who can bring this country forward.

In this respect, I would also add that my knowledge was much more valued in Bulgaria. One cannot deny that there is fierce competition in the UK labour market and it is incredibly hard, even for young people with good education, to get jobs which will allow them to be financially independent.

Furthermore, I believe that Bulgaria provides much more opportunities for businesses. When in university, I wrote my dissertation on family businesses in Bulgaria since the fall of communism in 1989. One of the conclusions from my research was that there was, and still is great demand for the creation of small and medium enterprises in Bulgaria and one of the great benefits of doing this is the fact that we have the lowest flat tax of 10% in Europe and only a 5% dividend tax rate. Additionally, it is easy to quickly launch a nеw company in Bulgaria as the founding capital required is only 1 Euro.

I would like to say that with this letter I wanted not only to correct the false information that you stated on television; I also wanted to explain that not all Bulgarians and Romanians that come to the UK are “unskilled workers”; and even if they are, they also contribute to your economy. I also wanted to take this opportunity to invite you to visit Bulgaria as a guest of me and my family, so that we can explain to you how much our country has changed over the past 20 years and see for yourself the potential that we have to grow even more in the future.

Finally, I want to clarify that this letter was written with good intentions. I hope that it shed some light on the issues that you discussed regarding Bulgarian immigrants and I would be very thankful if I receive a reply from your behalf.

Yours sincerely,

Ralitsa Behar

You may wish to read up more facts on the issue as below:

Open Letter to UKIP’s Nigel Farage on Insulting Bulgarians

Letters to the Editor | March 14, 2013, Thursday | Viewed: 1911

Dear Mr Farage, …

UKIP MEP Visit to Sofia Incites Bulgarian Politicians Clash

Bulgaria in EU | February 8, 2013, Friday | Viewed: 1762

British MEP Paul Nuttall, deputy leader of the UK Independence Party, gave a press conference in Sofia which turned into a clash between two Bulgarian nationalist politicians….

Farage Responds to Ralitsa Behar: You Are Right to Love Your Country as I love Mine

Society | February 6, 2013, Wednesday | Viewed: 2053

“I am pleased my comments have helped create a debate in Bulgaria,” writes British politician, Nigel Farage in a response to an open letter from young Bulgarian woman, Ralitsa Behar….

Farage Replies to Ralitsa: “I Want to See Bulgaria Prosperous and Free”

Open Letter | February 6, 2013, Wednesday | Viewed: 5982

UK Independence Party leader, MEP Nigel Farage has submitted to Novinite.com (Sofia News Agency) and Novinite.bg a reply to the open letter sent to him by a young Bulgarian woman, Ralitsa Behar…

MP: UK Derides Bulgarians

Bulgaria in EU | February 5, 2013, Tuesday | Viewed: 894

Bulgarian independent Member of the Parliament, Kiril Gumnerov, voiced indignation about Bulgarian politicians keeping silent all while another EU Member State is deriding Bulgaria….

EC: UK Can’t Ban Bulgarians, Romanians from Labor Market after Jan 1

Bulgaria in EU | February 4, 2013, Monday | Viewed: 1307

The United Kingdom cannot unilaterally ban Bulgarians and Romanians from working there after January 1, 2014, Jonathan Todd, Spokesperson for EU Employment Commissioner Laszlo Andor told Novinite.com (Sofia News Agency) and Novinite.bg….

Bulgarians React with Dismay to British Anti-immigration Campaign

Views on BG | February 1, 2013, Friday | Viewed: 1313

From The Guardian…

Bulgarians Brush Off UK Fears on Migration

Views on BG | February 1, 2013, Friday | Viewed: 1150

From The Financial Times…

UKIP Leader Lashes Out at Bulgaria, Triggers Controversy

Bulgaria in EU | January 28, 2013, Monday | Viewed: 2403

The UK Independence Party leader has renewed with a vengeance his criticism of Bulgaria in a bid to fuel fears over new immigrants, coming as of 2014….

Mr. Farage, Come to Bulgaria to See You Are Wrong

Open Letter | January 28, 2013, Monday | Viewed: 14960

Dear Mr. Farage, My name is Ralitsa Behar and I am a Bulgarian. I decided to write to you, because I was surprised by your comments on the BBC1’s Question Time on January 17, 2013….

As a final point it is worth reitterating the comments of one of the most detailed and meticulous researchers when it comes to UKIP – Barbara Booker, who like myself is an avid supporter of the basic principles of UKIP, back in the days when it had principles rather than a gaggle of largely anonymous low lifes too ashamed of their antics to put their names to their playground style of ya boo bullying and the low grade riff raff that is UKIP’s current staff and leadership team of corrupt ne’er do wells:

This item was published on a corrupt open forum managed under the control of UKIP to whom they respond even when UKIP supporters are repeatedly shown to be liars!

Expose the truth to assist Nigel Farage before:

Nigel Farage walks into any more europhile traps. Didn’t anyone on his staff check out Ralitsa Behar before banging out a response to her open letter that’s given the Sofia News Agency the excuse it wanted to publish a federalist attack on Britain and British euroscepticism? All Farage has done is provide material for any number of ‘Jonathan Taylor’ type replies.

Publication of the Ralitsa/Farage/Taylor letters originated on http://www.novinite.com/ (Sofia News Agency). Novinite was founded by the Bulgarian journalist and public relations expert Maxim Behar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxim_Behar who, “In 1995, according to his love of journalism, he founded the National Association of Journalists for the EU, which he served as vice president and then president until 2001” http://elec.digitalseye.com/maxim-be…l-of-bulgaria/. Not difficult to see where he’s coming from, then!

Ralitsa Behar is his daughter.

Why on earth doesn’t Nigel Farage shell out some of his lavish expenses on employing a half competent PR team to protect him from this sort of thing?

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UKIP Copyright Infringement by Nigel Farage etc.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/09/2012

UKIP Copyright Infringement by Nigel Farage etc.

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UKIP Copyright Infringement by Nigel Farage etc.

This article  I believe to be true though much of the opinion posted by Martin Cole I KNOW to be wildly speculative, at best, and often completely wrong!

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since speculation or should I say guesses and rumours are being posted as if factual on Anthony Butcher’s UKIP controlled blog, regarding the incident where Nigel Farage was found guilty of copyright infringement which seemed at the time to be largely driven by the odious and corrupt sewer rat Nigel employed, to try to build ‘Black Files’ on his staff, colleagues and opponents, Mark Croucher.
I note that Barbara Booker has drawn attention to the ‘facts’ as present6ed by Martin Cole, which were as follows:
Thursday, May 01, 2003Video Tape Copyright Infringement by Nigel Farage
On 4 September 2000 local trading standards officers raided UKIP’s South East branch offices in Redhill, seizing four illegal video copies of a BBC TV documentary “The Enemy Within” about Nigel Farage, UKIP MEP for the South East Region, which were in breach of copyright. Britain in Europe AccountMosaic Productions reprint of an article by Peter Shore in the Daily Telegraph
1st June 2000, sets the background as to why Nigel Farage might have felt dismayed at the non-appearance of the BBC episode of ‘Desperately Seeking Eutopia’ with his contribution. Peter Shore Article

Mosaic Films followed this report a few days later with another, this time concluded as follows:-

Article by Christopher Booker
The Sunday Telegraph, June 4 2000

All content © Mosaic Films

An early indication that Mosaic Films took their copyright property rights very seriously!

Christopher Booker Article

On the 16th August 2000 the following item appeared in the London Evening Standard:-

“Some bad news for Nigel Farage, Euro MP for the UK Independence Party, who is the subject of a forthcoming BBC documentary due for broadcasting next month on the sparsely viewed BBC Knowledge channel.
The Beeb is furious to discover a video of the programme given to Farage by the makers is being copied and sold through the Party’s “Sovereignty” newsletter, with UKIP doing a roaring trade at five pounds a piece. The programme which includes footage of Farage’s assistant Dr Richard North describing our Spanish neighbours as: “Rag-arsed dagos,” is described by UKIP as: “A perfect tool for converting the sceptical, and perfect for showing at branch meetings.”
Not for long. The Beeb is already flexing its legal muscles. “This is a breach of copyright which won’t be tolerated,” a spokesman tells me.”

Jeffrey Titford had written a long letter of many complaints to the BBC on the 7th August 2000, ie a few days before this item appeared in the Standard, among which was the question as to why invitations to Farage to appear on Question Time had been withdrawn. The breach of copyright could, perhaps have been a contributory factor!

Jeffrey Titford’s Complaint to the BBC

What was the background to Farage’s actions, did he innocently flirt with a breach of copyright, or did he recklessly risk all to have his programme reach a wider organisation? Here the internet search engines reveal little, so we have been forced to make inquiries elsewhere.

Curiously at a UKIP NEC meeting on the 24th May 2000, a motion was put forward by Nigel Farage that any NEC member who fell foul of the law should have their legal expenses paid by the party. One present recalls that failing to gather majority support the proposer then lost his temper and stormed from the meeting.

Shortly after this the then Party Secretary learned that Nigel Farage planned to copy and sell a video tape and following enquiries learned the intent was to sell the box including the free tape inside, presumably a poor attempt to circumvent the law.

On 31st July 2000, Adam Alexander of Mosaic Films had faxed Nigel Farage confirming his company had worldwide rights to Eutopia – The Enemy Within.

On 9th August 2000 this same gentleman, Joint Managing Director of Mosaic, faxed Farage again advising:-

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It has been brought to my attention that the UKIP, through a reference in Sovereignty magazine, is offering for sale copies of the film we made about you for the BBC series ‘Eutopia -The Enemy Within‘.

At no time has Mosaic given you the right to sell this programme. With reference to my fax to you of 31st July 2000, Mosaic holds the distribution rights and any exploitation of the material through video sales can only be through and with the express agreement of Mosaic Films.

Any attempts by you to make copies of and or sell the programme will be a breach of copyright, and to this end I must insist you refrain from making any sales until such time as a sales agreement has been made between us. Please advise me of any sales you may have already made.

I can confirm that under the terms of the agreement Mosaic has with the BBC the video cannot be sold until after the first transmission by the BBC, which is scheduled for sometime soon after 15th September 2000.
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This fax was copied to two people within the BBC and another Mosaic employee.

It could hardly have been clearer.

A letter of apology was sent to Mosaic Films signed on behalf of Nigel Farage by Stan Oram and believed to have been sent on 15th August 2000.

On 24th August, following an advert for the video appearing in the Independence (UKIP‘s Members Newsletter), the party secretary wrote to all NEC members advising the activity was illegal and that he would not work to defend the action which was bringing the Party into disrepute and that additionally he would oppose the use of party funds being used to meet costs that might be incurred.

Extraordinarily on 24th August the party leader Jeffrey Titford wrote to the party secretary regarding his warning stating: “ The facts are that Nigel has permission to reproduce the video, this was given by Mosaic who made the programme. I have seen this letter.”

On the same day Farage sent an angry riposte to all NEC members which he had the foresight to banner headline “NOT FOR CIRCULATION” for it is difficult to reconcile its contents with the facts as they now appear.

On 25th August, Adam Alexander of Mosaic Films was again faxing Farage, this time with a clear warning that the Surrey Trading Standards Office were on the case and demanding that the pirated videos be sent to Gloucestershire to arrive by 30th August 2000.

On 30th August the other joint managing director of Mosaic films wrote to the UKIP Party Secretary with details of the correspondence between Farage and his colleague and insisted that no pirated copies be sold.

On 4th September 2000 the party received a letter from the Surrey County Council Trading Standards office confirming that on 24th August they had purchased a pirated video and that on 1st September they had visited the Redhill Southeast branch office and seized further copies and related documentation.

On 4th September 2000 a statement was put out by the party leader Jeffrey Titford, which in light of the now revealed facts, seems so extraordinary that it can only be quoted in full:-

UKIP & The Video ‘The Enemy Within’- A statement by Jeffrey Titford MEP, Leader, UK Independence Party

The BBC has spent a great deal of licence payers’ money producing a film series about the European Union. For reasons about which we can only speculate, the BBC has shown no inclination to screen on its terrestrial channels an episode that featured the UK Independence Party, despite the fact that UKIP MEPs went to great lengths to co-operate in the film’s production.

As a result, Nigel Farage MEP took a personal initiative to obtain copies of the film with a view to selling it to UKIP members in order to raise badly needed funds for the South East region. It subsequently transpired that distribution of the film to Party members would not be possible until it has been screened on a BBC subscription channel.

More recently, a Trading Standards Officer resorted to what amounted to deception in order to obtain a copy of the video and so prove that a technical offence has been committed. As a result, the videos have been returned to their source, where they will remain pending clarification.
Nigel accepts that he acted somewhat precipitously – though with the best intention of making the film available to a wider audience. I am also satisfied that no personal gain was either intended or realised. Any further enquiries or approaches on the matter, from whatever party involved, will be referred to the UKIP South East regional office.

This unfortunate matter would never have come about if the BBC properly fulfilled its Charter obligations in regard to balanced reporting. Also, I wholly deprecate the duplicitous tactics of Trading Standards at a time when their officers are terrorising small traders with an unlawful interpretation of Weights and Measures legislation, and turning a blind eye to the sale of thousands of illegal car number plates emblazoned with the infamous EU ring of stars.

Signed Jeffrey Titford London 4 September 2000

On 8th September 2000 Mosaic Films confirmed to the UKIP Party Secretary that at no time had they given Nigel Farage either verbal or written permission to sell the tapes. That same day the Party Secretary tendered his resignation, hardly surprising in view of the events detailed above, but even less so when put against the fact that throughout this period he had also been fending off a possible prosecution by the Metropolitan Police in connection with the removal of the UKIP database, in which strangely enough Nigel Farage’s name had also been involved.

We are conscious that this parade of facts on an internet site could rob those involved of the right to reply. WE WILL POST ANY REPLIES OR REFUTATIONS ANYONE MENTIONED IN THE ABOVE POST MIGHT CARE TO MAKE. Such should be sent to ukipuncovered@hotmail.com The e-mail link that was available on this site will be restored for such purposes as soon as possible. Other comments or advice are similarly always welcomed.

posted by Martin |12:33 AM

To view Martin Cole’s original posting, in context CLICK HEREIt is unfortunate that Martin Cole undermined his own credibility by publishing some most amusing fantasies and guessed at speculation about me that were such patently obviously speculative rubbish that it brought into question much else that he ‘claimed’ to be fact.Sadly Martin Cole seemed unable to differentiate between fact and fiction and failed to show what he could substantiate and that which he was inventing or that which was pure fantasy which he republished for others as with much of the vituperative drivel published, at the time, by Christina Speight who seemed to see herself as the Queen of the EUroSceptic movement for a brief period.I hope this background to the UKIP / Farage copyright saga is of help.I was given a copy of the video at the time and watched it – It was quite good and along the usual lines of show off showman for which Farage has become quite well known as an entertainer. Even in 1999 it was showing UKIP’s lack of gravitas and its knock about style of insults and humour, which passes for political ability in UKIP, which seems almost totally dependent on stunts, insults, bullying and abuse for its much vaunted but never visible (in UK Ballot Boxes!) great progress.

UKIP under its present unprofessional band wagon jumping and a dependency on ‘churning’ of members to attract new more naiive and less well informed members to the cult to replace those who have seen through the sham are what seems to keep them going at a cost to the tax payer running to 10s of £Millions over the years.

UKIP’s latest band wagon is IN / OUT referendum where from their pamphlet on the issue they make it abundantly clear they plan to loose and have failed to grasp the first principles of such a referendum. No doubt they will use this as a mechanism to ‘churn’ more members and to pocket the cash generated as they seemingly did with the £1/4 Million plus of public money that was spiritted away and never accounted by Nigel Farage, David Lott & Mark Croucher in the only petition of note they have claimed to run to date.

The petition never materialised but the money did vanish in much the same way as the Ashford campaign where less than 15% of the money raised ever reached UKIP, we were told by its own chairman. An apparent fraud that was seemingly covered up by Douglas Denny, John Moran, Andrew Smith, Nigel Farage and other scoundrels and nere do wells at the time.

We are also reminded by Barbara Booker that:

‘EUtopia’ was a series of twenty documentaries, eight of which went out on BBC2 during Summer 2000, with the remaining twelve switched to BBC Digital. I had forgotten that ‘The Enemy Within’, the programme featuring Nigel Farage, was broadcast on 7 September 2000 on BBC Knowledge.

I’m not sure everyone would agree that it was favourable to UKIP. It included Richard North calling the Spanish, “rag-arsed dagos”, and Nigel Farage swearing.

And that Jeffrey Titford lied when he made the statement:
The facts are that Nigel has permission to reproduce the video, this was given by Mosaic who made the programme. I have seen this letter”.He couldn’t have. The true facts were that Mosaic had expressly forbidden Farage to copy and or sell the programme, and insisted he refrain from doing so.

It is quite clear that on a consistent basis UKIP’s leadership and their clique and also their self serving claque, including those too ashamed to put their names to their dishonesties and defamatory claims are consitent strangers to the truth – all too willing to lie, cheat and steal as their track record shows.There can really be no argument that we are fortunate that UKIP, as it is, and has been, has never had any relevance in British domestic politics as power would clearly be abused and befouled by those in control of UKIP.

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What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.

They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then  still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

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Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.

Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!

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Cowardly UKIP Sock Puppet reminded of THE FACTS!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/06/2012

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Cowardly UKIP Sock Puppet reminded of THE FACTS!

The point at issue was a discussion of Ashley Mote‘s EUroSceptic credentials, NOT the fact that he was found guilty under strange circumstances of benefit fraud by a high powered team of some 12 Government Lawyers an offence long before he was elected as a UKIP MEP!

Nor of the fact that he has done all he can to clear his name believing, rightly or wrongly, that he was subject of a false verdict, based upon overwhelming ‘political’ pressures!

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here is an interesting reminder of FACTS by Barbara Booker (ex UKIP resigned in disgust some time ago) for the attempt to smear the reputation of Ashley Mote as a EUroSceptic by one of the cowardly and fundamentally dishonest UKIP Leadership sock puppets.
It is sad that UKIP so consistently has its position befouled by the likes of such cowardly low lifes and their defamatory lies.:
Quote Originally Posted by Independent UKIP View Post
One aspect of Mote which has surprisingly not been given any attention in this topic is his decision to join ITS in the European Parliament. UKIP is almost universally criticised on here for being a part of EFD but Mote happily sat in a group with Alessandra Mussolini & the French National Front, amongst assorted others some of whom actually make them seem moderate! (I note that a Flemish ITS member is now in EFD.)
Ah, yes, the ITS group, standing for ‘Identity, Tradition, Sovereignty’, about which Nigel Farage told Portsmouth Today in January 2007: “Mr Mote was elected for UKIP, and the people who have voted for him would not expect him to be sitting with these people. It is a complicated process when deciding which group to join, and certain compromises have to be made, but sitting with people like that is beyond the pale”. The new group which Farage found beyond the pale included:

Frank Vanhecke of Vlaams Belang, currently a colleague of Farage himself and other UKIP MEPs in the EFD group

Philip Claeys (Vice-Chairman of ITS), Vlaams Belang, currently a fellow board member of UKIP MEP Godfrey Bloom in the European Alliance for Freedom (EAF)

Andreas Molzer (Bureau member of ITS), Austrian FPO, also currently a fellow board member of Godfrey Bloom in the EAF

Marine Le Pen, French FN, also of the EAF http://cep.rhul.ac.uk/cep-blog/2012/…n-freedom.html

Interestingly, when the new group was in the process of being set up in October 2006, EUObserver published an article ‘Far-right aims to form group in European Parliament’, claiming that some UKIP MEPs might join it. UKIP reacted strongly with a statement: “The UK Independence Party formally rejects the allegation made yesterday on the website of EUObserver.com that members of the party may have had talks with the proposed far right grouping being discussed in the European Parliament”.

UKIP forced a retraction and apology from EUObserver, with party chairman John Whittaker saying: “I am disturbed that EUObserver could print such a groundless allegation and I note that they have admitted that there is no substance to it”.

Makes you wonder what UKIP was bellyaching about. Its MEPs subsequently not only formed connections with former ITS members as listed above, but also with others referred to in the EUObserver article, the Lega Nord and League of Polish Families.

Funny how yesterday’s “far-right” and those who were “beyond the pale” have become today’s valued colleagues!

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Even Paul Wesson is making a fool of himself with what looks like a vitriolic vendetta against Ashley Mote as he bullies and browbeats anyone who dares to ask questions (BvL) regarding Mote’s conviction and the genuinely stated opinion of Niall Warry. It seems Wesson has quite lost his marbles as he is now trying to pretend I am posting on his squalid little forum which we know is packed with liars, cheats and UUKIP sock puppets ever willing to lie and defame those presenting facts and even banning people like myself, on the orders of UKIP for having published irefutable facts regarding UKIP.Many will remember how Anthony Butcher and his moderators were happy for anonimous lies about me to be published for UKIP, obeyed UKIP in repeated dishonesty and ad hominem comments regarding me when I showed beyond doubt that Nigel Farage’s chosen MEP Tom Wise was found guilty of colluding with Lindsay Jenkins to defraud the public purser – for which Tom Wise was subsequently jailed for 2 years and charges against Lindsay Jenkins were dropped when Tom Wise pleaded guilty during their trial!

As to Ashley Mote there is no doubt he was found guilty but I personally find the case to have failed to convince and I and some others question whether justice was seen to be done, for various reasons.I have little doubt that The Crown proved its case to its satisfaction – however odious as some may find Mote there is some doubt in my mind based upon timing and the determination of the crown to deploy some 12 lawyers to establish the weight of their case and expend around £1Million of public money on the alegation of about £70K of fraud.

I also empathise with the argument that pre paid tax on betting can be construed as having paid the due tax on any winnings – were that not the case the floor of most betting shops would be empty denuded of the unemployed who seem able to find considerable sums for gambling!The verdit may well have been returned in the court but in the public at large there is no doubt that a number of people consider that verdict to have failed to see justice done.

May I also add that the vendetta launched by some, such as Farage who even employed senior UKIP staff to follow the case and write the spin!

That conversely in the clear case of fraud whilst in elected office by Tom Wise, exploiting his elected position for personal gain (be minded Ashley Mote’s alleged and questionably proven offences were lomng before his election) Nigel Farage took no meaningful action against Tom Wise beyond repeatedly telling lies to and on the media regarding his having fired Tom Wise from UKIP, which he did NOT.

You may recal Tom Wise was a UKIP MEP until long after he had been exposedf as a fraudster by The Sunday Times and others and long after Mike Nattrass’ expletive riddled defence of Tom Wise on the grounds that if Tom Wiser was found guilty so would all The UKIP MEPs be!

May I also remind you that when The News of The World exposed Tom Wise’s greed and corruption Roger Helmer The Tory MEP was also supportive of Tom Wise even on the film taken by TNoTW!

Some may remember the open attack made on me by the duplicitous scoundrel Roger Helmer for seeking to expose corruption of those in public office – a stance followed by Mike Nattrass, Derek Clark, Mark Croucher, Paul Nuttall, Mike Nattrass, Graham Booth, Stuart Parr, Anthony Butcher, Lindsay Jenkins, Trevor Colman, Clive Page, Gawain Towler, Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, Stuart Gulleyslime, Malcolm Wood and many other liars and low lifes in and supportive of UKIP corruption – often for their own personal gain!

It is not just the utter incompetence of UKIP, as shown by their catastrophic performance in dometic politics, but their duplicitous, dishonest, defamatory cyber stalking and abuse that show that wityhout radical change they are clearly unfit for purpose as in the vanguard of EUroScepticism.

It will also be worth noting the irefutable racism, anti homosexuality and advocacy of violence amongst UKIP leadership team and their close associates that shows them for what they sadly have become – an enrichment clique supported by a vile claque seeking their own empowerment and or enrichment.
There are ZERO exceptions as none amongst the leadership team has EVER spoken out or tried to correct that fundamental corruption with the brave exception of Nikki Sinclaire and there is a sneaking suspicion that a fabricated case is being built to entrap her in a web of UKIP created lies – as revenge for braking ranks to do the job for which she was elected rather than perpetuate the leadership scams!
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