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& Yet UKIP Still Tries To Claim It is NOT Racist or Xenophobic!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/03/2013

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& Yet UKIP Still Tries To Claim It is NOT Racist or Xenophobic!
Clear4ly members & members of its leadership are not just anto homosexual as proven in the courts but are very clearly xenophobic & support Racism, Violence, Criminality & anti Judaism!!

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one need only read the apparent incitement to race hate based on supertition as published and distributed by Gerard Batten to realise there are aspects of racism and xenophobia that go right to the top in UKIP.

Time after time it is made clear that UKIP members at all levels are racist, xenophobic, anti homosexual and in many ways the failed of other parties who have come together out of greed, self interest and inadequacy to collectively promote their inadequacies, fears and hatred in the manner of introspective nationalists.

UKIP make much of bragging of patriotism when clearly they have as little understanding of the meaning of the word as they have of the aims and principles of Libertarianism.

Let us not forget the fact that UKIP leader Nigel Farage derives a substantial part of the bribes he gets from the EU from leading and having taken UKIP into the Pan EU EFD Group he founded – the sweepings of the gutter politics of EUrope beset with hatred, racism, criminality, anti homosexuality, anti Judaism and even going as far as to support many of the aims of Anders Brevik the cowardly mass murderer from Norway.

Yet again we see the ugly side of this collective of cranks and gadflies who so desperately try to stuff the truth of their core beliefs in the closet!

UKIP has desperately come off the rails in pandering to the populism of the lowest common denominator in persuit of its ambitions and self enrichment – doing great harm to the EUroSceptic aims of the majority in Britain who seemingly, in poll after poll, wish to Leave-The-EU.

Ukip Bristol Chairman Phillip Collins Insists ‘Put All Illegal Immigrants In Holding Centres’

Posted: 04/03/2013 11:29 GMT  |  Updated: 04/03/2013 12:16 GMT

 
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The chairman of Ukip in Bristol has backed controversial removal centres for illegal immigrants saying there should be “one in every town.” He also appeared to suggest that those entering the country illegally should be sent to prison.

Phillip Collins stressed that holding centres should not be the same as prisons, but added: “If they were to go to prison, really I would say a six month prison term for coming over here, using our facilities and using our services would be right for breaking the law.”

Speaking to the Huffington Post UK he said families should be broken up if one member is here illegally and other members aren’t.

He said: “They would be treated humanely and fairly and properly but would not be allowed into the wider community. If one member of a family is illegal and the others aren’t well, the illegal one would have to be put into the holding community. If the mother is illegal and the father is not, they should be separated.

“If they are ill then they can go to hospital but they should be escorted to hospital like prisoners. They should be held in the holding centre until they find papers for them. At the moment the police let them go but then they disappear and then they stay here forever.

“These holding centres would be like prisons with unlocked doors, then after they’ve all been used and we’ve got rid of all the immigrants then we could turn them into actual prisons.

Collins made the comments after an interview with VICE in which he insisted all Eastern European immigrants should leave the UK, and that this country, “within three or four generations will be a Muslim country.”

He told the magazine “Unless we do something about it, we’ll be the ones on the street begging for change.”

He also told their reporter that there should be two or three holding centres in every city.

Collins said these were his personal views are not the views of Ukip. “I’m not sure what official Ukip policy is,” he told the Huffington Post UK.

“There are two million illegal immigrants in the UK and there should be as many holding centres as necessary to keep all of them in,” he added.

“It sounds like a lot of money up front but it would create jobs. There are as many as two million illegal immigrants using all our services and facilities. “

Britain’s prison population stands at 84,000 with a maximum capacity of 88,000. The last formal study of irregular (illegal) immigrants in 2007 put the number between 417,000 and 863,000, according to the migration observatory.

Currently the UK has 12 immigration removal centres, with a capacity of 4055, which exist to house foreign nationals awaiting decisions on their asylum claims or awaiting deportation following a failed application. Of the twelve centres, half are devoted to purely male detainees.

The removal centres have proved controversial since their inception with opponents saying it is wrong to imprison people who are fleeing persecution and who have committed no crime.

A spokesperson for Migrants’ Rights Network told the Huffington Post UK there were significant problems with removal centres as “there’s no limitation for how long people can be held.”

“It’s a huge human rights and personal liberty issue. Individuals can spend years in detention while the UK Border Agency tries to remove them.”

Detention Action, which supports and campaigns with people held in detention centres, told the Huffington Post UK Collins was guilty of “wild exaggerations” about migration.

Campaigner Kate Blagojevic told the Huffington Post UK “There are a lot of myths and misinformation peddled about migration in the UK and Phillip Collins is repeating them word for word plus a few wild exaggerations, for example, saying that there are 2 million people are living in the UK without documentation is simply a lie.

“However, worryingly a lot of his suggestions are already in practice – people are escorted and handcuffed in hospitals; families are already broken up; and people are already held in prison like centres for months or even years.”

She said the current removal centres are “expensive, unnecessary and unfair,” saying that to hold someone for one day costs around £120 and added “people who are held for a year are more likely to be released than removed.”

Countering Collins’ claims she said: “We are one of the countries in Europe that detains people without any time limit and detain people as soon as they claim asylum.

“I speak to people daily in pubs and restaurants as well – they think that the UK had a duty to protect people who a seeking safely; to uphold a tradition of welcoming refugees; who believe that families should not be ripped apart; who believe that children shouldn’t grow up without parents; who believe that the UK should have an immigration system based on fairness not force.”

Detention Centre Rules insist that safety and security is to be maintained but “with no more restriction than is required for safe custody and well ordered community life.”

However there have been a number of disturbances at centres, shining a spotlight on the controversial practice.

At Morton Hall in Lincolnshire, three prisoners threatened to commit suicide in the past year, there have been riots and a group of 18 asylum seekers from Afghanistan going on hunger strike.

A Nigerian man scaled the roof in protest over his prolonged detention in August, while one Palestinian and one Malaysian protested at the the ‘disrespectful’ and ‘inhumane’ treatment at the hands of the guards. Allegations of racism and violence were also made by one anonymous whistleblower.

“The problem we have is these people feel they are treated like criminals when their crimes are simply fleeing their own country for whatever reason,” Iman Sajid from the Joint Council for the Welfare of Immigrants said at the time.

Additionally, detainees at a Dover immigration removal centre who claimed they had been tortured were treated dismissively, prisons inspectors said in August.

In February an 84-year-old Canadian man died after becoming ill at an immigration removal centre near Heathrow airport. The Guardian reported that Alois Dvorzac was “extremely distressed” the day he was rushed to hospital with chest pains.

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Morton Hall in LincolnshireUkip MEP Gerard Batten said Collins,’ idea was “superficially attractive” but impractical. In a statement to the Huffington Post UK he said: “We would expect all illegal immigrants to register as such with the authorities, in an advertised time period.

“If they do not, and the authorities become aware of their presence, then they open themselves to automatic deportation, as illegal immigrants.”

“It may be superficially attractive to think that all illegals should be processed though these centres, but given that there are only 4000 places in them when there are anything up to 1 million illegal immigrants in the country, it is neither humane nor practical to do so”.

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Gerard Batten, in pink, said the idea was superficially attractive but not practicalUkip was accused by David Cameron of being a party of “fruit cakes and loonies and closet racists” in 2006, a description that has cast a shadow over the party ever since, despite fervent denials by Ukip.

However the founder and former leader of Ukip, Professor Alan Sked, says the party he launched in 1993 has become “extraordinarily right-wing” and is now devoted to “creating a fuss, via Islam and immigrants.” He told the Huffington Post UK in November “They’re not an intellectually serious party. Their views on immigrants and on [banning] the burqa are morally dodgy.”

However Collins says he represents the views of the majority, saying: “I speak to people daily in pubs and restaurants and on the street and all the British people feel this way. The other EU countries don’t abide by these rules, we’re the only country stupid enough to do this . There are A LOT of people who feel this way, the vast majority. The British people are being taken the p**s out of. “

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Media Reality re UKIP Result in Eastleigh!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/03/2013

Media Reality re UKIP Result in Eastleigh!

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Media Reality re UKIP Result in Eastleigh!
Rod Liddle comments on the general outcome of the by-election in The Spectator!!

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Will UKIP ever win?

2 March 2013 10:55
UKIP leader Nigel Farage and local candidate Diane James laugh as they celebrate their result in coming second in the Eastleigh by-election. (Photo by Matt Cardy/Getty Images)UKIP leader Nigel Farage and local candidate Diane James laugh as they celebrate their result in coming second in the Eastleigh by-election. (Photo by Matt Cardy/Getty Images)

A couple of reflections upon Eastleigh. Firstly it was indeed an appalling night for Labour; midterm the party came second in this constituency in the early 90s. It received the votes a joke candidate might expect this time around. Maybe that’s because they put a comedian in the seat. I have no objection to John O’Farrell’s writing at all; but maybe one reason for Labour’s failure – and probably not the most important – was his candidature. He is the sort of thing London Labour loves; metropolitan, cool, ever so witty. Ever so PC. Does any of that play outside the M25? I don’t think so. And the result would suggest I’m right. Ed needs to grasp the hand of Maurice Glasman a little more tightly.

Second; the Rennard stuff was of absolutely no consequence, was it? It did not play. Nobody cared. I suspect that beyond the M25 most people think the whole business is an absurdity and a staggering irrelevance. Women as well as men.

Thirdly – as a caveat to the press hailing UKIP’s success (and of course they did very well). Will they ever actually win? This was the time, and the place. As Primo Levi once said; if not now, when? They are still a conduit for the pissed off protest voters; it is to Farage’s credit that these people are now drawn from all three major parties, rather than just the Tories. But can they ever be more than that?

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To which you will notice I felt compelled to point out the following facts:

Hi,

you will also have noticed UKIP’s victory was a resounding achievement if you subtract all the votes of those who did not vote for them.

However you overlook the fact that the outright winners were those who voted for pro EU parties showing just what a resounding failure UKIP actually was, having failed to be linked with their core, and only consequential, message with a mere 14% of the vote at a time when the public at large, by a majority, oppose membership of The EU and amongst Tory members alone over 60% demand a Referendum in which they intend to vote to Leave-The-EU.

The spectacular failure of UKIP to capitalise on this shows just how apposite was the comment ‘if they can’t get elected now what real chance of ever being elected do they have …?’

If only they could find competent and professional leadership and the trust of the people! Sadly unlikely in their present form!

 

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The EASTLEIGH By-Election Results & Thoughts

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/03/2013

The EASTLEIGH By-Election Results & Thoughts
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The EASTLEIGH By-Election Results & Thoughts, Particularly on the UKIP Protest Vote!!

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Having had better things to do today and having listened in detail to election details until 03:00hrs. as the results came in and subsequently there was little of note to post beyond the facts I posted contemporaneously with the election results as follows in reverse time order:

  1. But only the gullible & the ill informed believed David Cameron’s idiotic comments about repatriation & renegotiation http://soc.li/qDzi3J
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  2. REDACTED AS NOT RELEVANT TO THE EASTLEIGH BY-ELECTION

  3. REDACTED AS NOT RELEVANT TO THE EASTLEIGH BY-ELECTION
  4. REDACTED AS NOT RELEVANT TO THE EASTLEIGH BY-ELECTION

  5. @politicalhackuk With schools, Hospitals & much more sold off to Private landlords & Public Finances scammed by Labour sadly borrowing rises
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  6. #ukip MEP Godfrey bloom failed to turn up at #eu committee meeting when financial transaction tax passed by one vote! #bbccqt

  7. For kids watching #bbcqt that are too young to remember cash-for-questions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash-for-questions_affair … Hamilton charged £2k per parli. question

  8. @CorshamResident @IssyTweets @NSinclaireMEP Bright as Niel Hamilton may be his lack of integrity & association with sleaze undermine UKIP
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  9. @chrisshipitv @DPJHodges I do not agree based on track record. Diane James was new, an Independent & distanced from UKIP sleaze & corruption
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  10. @FreebornTrukip @wiffen I appreciate exposing the facts and clear proven truth is rarely popular to those on the make!
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  11. @wiffen Clearly UKIP FAILED to get the message of Leave-The-EU across as their message in Eastleigh but acted as dustbin for protest voters.
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  12. Tories gagged their EUroSceptic candidate in Eastleigh & no one believes they will deliver a fair Leave-The-EU Referendum losing votes!
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  13. REDACTED AS NOT RELEVANT TO THE EASTLEIGH BY-ELECTION

  14. @TheEconomist The Tories have failed to explain the desperate need for greater cuts to survive but Moodies made it clear in rating report!
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  15. Tory vote v. poor but not wipe out (mid term protest) Labour however was disastrous & extrapolated would loose a GE badly.
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  16. LibDim winner in Eastleigh with a collapse of 14% of the vote & 17% turnout with 19% swing vote not to Leave-The-EU UKIP but protest dustbin
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  17. Eastleigh clearly shows Tories failed to convince they will hold a fair referendum & Leave-The-EU & failed to convince they need bigger cuts
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  18. Eastleigh 52% t/o LibDim 13,342 – UKIP 11,571 – Tory 10,559 – Lab 4,088 thus as I predicted UKIP gained the protest dustbin vote not values
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  19. UKIP clearly failed to get the message of Leave-The-EU across to the electorate in Eastleigh merely using immigration protest fear tactics!
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  20. Eastleigh turnout down by 19% as I predicted UKIP miss out on postal vote even as the protest dustbin vote & get very few votes for policies
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  21. Eastleigh UKIP gain a notable share of protest vote but fail to win based on the postal vote as I predicted. Few votes are for UKIP values!
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Further to my >TWEETS< you may also be interested in the opinions of Dr. Richard North regarding the Eastleigh by-election – a posting with which I largely agree:

UK politics: a wasteland of democracy

Friday 1 March 2013

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The media are glibly talking of the “humiliation” variously of David Cameron (Independent) and the Conservatives (Telegraph), completely unconscious of the fact that the by-election result represented a humiliating defeat for the political class as a whole.

As Your Freedom and Ours points out, people are not turning out to vote for any of the candidates in any numbers. But, when the lead candidate goes to Westminster on the back of 17 percent of the electorate – not even one in five of the voters – that represents a crashing failure of the political class to take the people with them.

But then, when we see Clegg stand alongside the new MP and proclaim “we overcame the odds”, while The Times talks of a “stunning” victory, the nature of the problem becomes apparent.

The great divide then yawns into a chasm when Lib-Dem party president, Tim Farron, claims: “This is a staggering result … it will be a turning point in this parliament and that we are in a position to win this seat completely changes the narrative of the parliament”.

And while the voters delivered a majority of 1,771 for the Lib-Dems, it is interesting to note that aside from the Lib-Lab-Con-UK matrix, there were ten other parties in the field, including the Monster Raving Loony Party, which collectively polled 2,056 votes.

Farage talks glibly about the Conservatives “splitting the UKIP vote”, and also hails UKIP’s “strong showing” as a sign of “revulsion” at the three main parties across Britain. But there were over two thousand voters who thought more of the likes of the Beer, Baccy and Crumpet Party than they did of his offer. Those votes were sufficient to deprive his candidate of a seat in Parliament.

What is thus very, very clear from this result is that the politicians simply haven’t got the message – any more than has the media. They are regarded, collectively, with a mixture of indifference and contempt. Party politics and voting in this country have become a minority preoccupation.

The result today, therefore, is not a disaster, per se for Cameron and his Conservatives, as some would have it. It is a disaster for the flawed experiment in representative democracy, another nail in the coffin of a failed system.

As for UKIP, the picture remains muddy. Your Freedom and Ours observes that their plan to become the third party after the Lib-Dims has fallen by the wayside by the latter’s victory in Eastleigh.

They cannot pretend that they are the second party in the country with no MPs and very few councillors. So, despite the undoubted rejoicing in the UKIP ranks and despite the nauseating plaudits that will be heaped on the Dear Leader, the fact remains: after 20 years and in the most propitious circumstances they remain in no-man’s land.

Increasingly though, this is becoming the “no-electors’ land” – a wasteland of democracy. And the politicians can’t even bring themselves to admit it.

COMMENT: “EASTLEIGH” THREAD

Richard North 01/03/2013


 UK politics: Eastleigh by-election

Friday 1 March 2013

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More than usual hyperventilation has attended this by-election, with some pretty bizarre predictions, even by the rather low standards of British political commentary. For what it is worth, my (private) prediction was that the Lib-dims would romp home, the Tories would come a poor second, Labour third and UKIP would keep their deposit with about seven percent of the vote … all on a very low turnout of 40 percent.

 
But then, I was certainly wrong on the turnout, as early reports put the it at 52 percent. This is higher than I expected although low in contrast to the 69.3 percent cast in the 2010 general election. All the same, no one at the beginning of the count was expecting the earlier tosh about UKIP winning to materialise, although there was still some expectation that UKIP might make second place.
 
As always though, the postal votes were set to play a crucial part, with 14,000 issued, and the Lib-Dems expected to take the lion’s share.  Given that most of these votes were in before the latest groping controversy, that vote was expected to be fairly solid.

UKIP had to beat Ray Finch’s 2010 performance, when he took 1,933 votes, taking 3.6 percent of the votes cast, losing his deposit. In the 1997 election, the Referendum Party fronted Victor Eldridge and took 2,013, also coming in with 3.6 percent of the votes. Thirteen years had not delivered any appreciable enhancement in eurosceptic sentiment in Eastleigh.

 
The talk though is of UKIP becoming the reservoir of the protest vote, and in particular capitalising on concerns about immigration. 
 
And, at just after 2.30 am, the result came through. The Lib-Dems did indeed romp home, coming in with 13,342 votes, against the second comer at 11,571 votes – UKIP.  Second place for Farage’s party, nearly a thousand ahead of the Conservatives at 10,599.  Labour trails at 4,088 votes. So much for my powers of prediction.
 
Mike Thornton’s vote of 13,342 votes compares with Chris Huhne’s 24,966 in 2010, yet Thornton talks of a Lib-Dem “mandate”, having dragged in a pitiful 32 percent of the votes cast, and 17 percent of the electorate of 78,313.  UKIP’s great victory amounts to 28 percent of the votes cast, or 14.8 percent of the electorate. 
 
This is a victory of sorts – bald men fighting over a comb, squabbling over a diminishing quantum, where an MP goes to parliament with a “mandate” of 17 percent of the electorate.  It never was democracy.  Now, it isn’t even representative.

COMMENT THREAD

Richard North 01/03/2013

You may also find the facts and opinions of the Junius Team of interest CLICK HERE

Dr. Eric Edmond’s take on the results ar Eastleigh of interest CLICK HERE.

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A Good Interview & Some Facts on UKIP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 28/02/2013

A Good Interview & Some Facts on UKIP
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A Good Interview given by Nikki Sinclaire & Some Facts on UKIP with the Eastleigh Fiasco in mind!!

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Hi,
another excellent interview given by Nikki Sinclaire:
Yet again Nikki Sinclaire shows just what might have been achieved had UKIP stuck to its core message and represented Britain and the peoples of Britain rather than become utterly corrupted, dishonest and self serving as it clearly is – squabbling and utterly unprofessional in their scrabble to gain and keep places at the EU troughs on the gravy train as they clearly are.
It is obscene to watch the greed and self interest of UKIP whoare so busy stabbing eachother in the back and feathering their personal nests that they have no time for training and have thrown ethics and integrity to the dogs, where the leadership of UKIP are so crass and inept they employ scoundrels who praise them and seem not to have a single solitary ethical individual of any competence or gravitas – one need only note their desperate efforts at Eastleigh with a ‘selected’ candidate who has so obfuscated her bnackground as to be a cartoon character wthout knowledge of her subject or even the courage of her convictions to declare as a UKIP supporter in her council seat where she holds a seat in competition with UKIP!

We have heard race hatred, inaccuracy, forced apologies and ill considered posturing in plenty yet no clear statement of an intent to campaign to Leave-The-EU merely half baked declarations of clearly un costed so called promises.

Populist mantra after populist mantra which populist as it may be is is clearly undeliverable – claims that seem made in the certain knowledge UKIP will never be called to a position of any responsibility – a party which after 20 years has achieved so very little – consider:

NO MPs in Westminster.

NO members in the National Ass for Wales.

NO members in the Scottish Parliament.

NO members in the London Assembly.

NO elected mayors.

NO elected police chiefs.

No members in the Northern Irish Assembly.

Directly elected councillors don’t even run into three figures, out of many 1,000s.

More ex-members than current members.

A minuscule youth wing.

Lead by an MEP based in Brussels.

The only party to be reliant on the EU for financial survival.

A party without a single individual of gravitas and credibility on its leadership team.
A party that for every item of good publicity attracts 10 reporting on their corruption, in fighting & stupidity.
A party dedicated to supporting racism, religious bigotry, xenophobia, anti homosexuality, anti Judaism & its followers across The EU.

A party with contempt for its members and indifference to ethics, morality or democracy & even the British Justice system.
Little wonder that so many of its poorly selected and undemocratically placed leading members jump ship to other parties & none having seen how UKIP behaves – a party largely rejected by the British domestic electorate who have seen through their duplicity.

A party that is utterly dependent for such votes as it does get on being the dustbin into which people cast their protest vote where when you consider they have less than 30 individuals elected to ANY office of any note after 20 years and are dependent on the celebrity status of the rejects and failures of other parties for any one of note.

Little wonder they have been such a consistent failure when virtually no one votes for them in domestic elections but just gives them a vote rather than cast it for the main parties! This at a time where even though UKIP has lost sighof the core aim of its grass roots supporters that of Leave-The-EU never has the message been so stron across the Country yet no one trusts UKIP and the popularity of the majority message does not reflect in votes for UKIP but rather in the very clear statement of opprobrium made by the majority of the electorate who don’t even turn out to vote!

Eastleigh will prove interesting when one considers that UKIP had almost no input to the huge percentage of votes with its Johnny come lately candidate and presence arriving in the constituency with a muddled message long after the postal vote was decided!

Such votes that UKIP do get will be votes against other parties rather than votes for UKIP, votes cast by Labour, LibDim & Tory voters unwilling to cast their vote for rivals of any consequence yet wishing to protest, all too often on ill informed populist grounds – Yes to be sure as a dustbin UKIP may do very well in this age of utter contempt for politicians as clearly no one of any integrity sees UKIP as politicians!
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    Seth Starkadder :
    Actually, you are reading plain English.
    Events that have so tragically shaped UKIP these last few years when a 29,500 membership in autumn 2004 should have been increased by many times, and we see a one year police investigation ongoing ( resources for which have to be justified, and the C.P.S. – or even in this case perhaps the Attourney General’s office, – convinced of a case with admissable evidence ) matters as discussed above do in fact impact.

    We have seen ‘Junius’ publish cartoons of Mr Clark MEP, including wareing his bedroom slippers whilst simultaneously correspondence backs up that which appears online.
    That is, derogeratory statements designed to undermine an original member who like myself and others similarly denegrated, started the party in the country from our own resources.

    When one reads about Mr Clark “…..his reputation for falling asleep……. time to hang up the slippers ! D.C…….. he has to go home for Horlicks and bed regardless………. “

    then he informs the world

    “….. some great mileage here for Junius………

    just a few bits to be put to print ! “

    Note the sneering !exclamation mark.

    He clearly states ” I will be happy to send on info to you in the future……..”

    Then why does he not publish the ‘info’ that explains why we lost so many decent volunteer members, the sources of the three £ 500 cheques, their onward transfer, into which accounts, the correspondence requesting back our hard earned money, and who exactly are the ‘Junius’ team who rather like Lord Rennard; are rather adept at getting their candidate elected.

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    That is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever heard and there is no truth in that what so ever. I presume posted by Paula who recently rejoined the UKIP Nottingham branch ( AKA Tiquipaya ), it’s nice to see her back to her old tricks again. I have never had my integrity questioned at a East Midland Meeting, in fact i was voted 6-0 twice last year by the regional committee as the regional chairman ( first committee was disbanded by Derek, so there had to be a re-vote by a second committee). Also quite interesting I have never had any payment from the East Mids Committee at all, in fact I have just organised my second regional conference in Skegness, both cost me a fair amount of money and a lot of time and effort. If anyone wants to know the truth these facts can be clarified by the RO or any committee members or the minutes of the meetings. Perhaps the person in question wants to ask the secretary for clarification, but that won’t happen because it’s a bare faced lie. If this is the best a failed member of UKIP can do against someone who has worked their socks off for UKIP since 2004, I feel sorry for her!How do you report a false statement on here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gillman View Post
    Recalling our General Election ’round-up’ meeting which is invoked by the above I recall the Regional Organiser explaining to the the East Midlands committe how a candidate had particularly upset many volunteer members.
    He clearly indicated that a certain candidate would not be encouraged in his blatent and transparent intentions.
    I recall resignations due to behavoir not previously associated with those of us who started the branches and regions.
    The figure of £ 1,500 comes to mind in three cheques of £ 500 each , and clear written verbal and committee approved requests for return of our money. The chairman too had been approached.
    Bank statements show the truth of the matter, cheque books too. Yes the evidence mentioned above is available.
    Ian what is this post about, I have never been at a regional committee meeting whilst you were there, in fact my first meeting was as the No2 MEP candidate in 2009, at which stage i believe you had left the party to form UK first. Please don’t tell me you are enhancing this lie of Paula’s???The verbal ‘trashing’ of the long term treasurer ( 15 years )was a disgrace. His treatment alone should have merited action by a discliplinary committee.
    The immediate condemnation of all that had gone before without any evidence of experience, intellect in these matters, or actual ability to effect anything better , again an utter disgrace. We volunteers had effected the election of ten MEP’s by giving up our time and resources to achieve those in elected office who would assist our withdrawel from the E.U.Correspondence widely circulated indicates that the ‘Junius’ team now have in place a long supported protegee.
    Little wonder then that Mr Derek Clark MEP is lampooned in cartoon form upon the internet, by a fountain in Nottingham, shown in his slippers, derided as liking his Horlicks, and derogatory comments are published about him when clear written statements are passed around about the leadership being carefully kept in the dark about exactly what is happening .
    Monday being the likely NEC meeting day should be very interesting.Will there be a challenge for the leadership ?Ian what is this post about, I have never been at a regional committee meeting whilst you were there, in fact my first meeting was as the No2 MEP candidate in 2009, at which stage i believe you had left the party to form UK first. Please don’t tell me you are enhancing this lie of Paula’s???

    Ian what is this post about, I have never been at a regional committee meeting whilst you were there, in fact my first meeting was as the No2 MEP candidate in 2009, at which stage i believe you had left the party to form UK first. Please don’t tell me you are enhancing this lie of Paula’s???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gillman View Post
    Seth Starkadder :
    Actually, you are reading plain English.
    Events that have so tragically shaped UKIP these last few years when a 29,500 membership in autumn 2004 should have been increased by many times, and we see a one year police investigation ongoing ( resources for which have to be justified, and the C.P.S. – or even in this case perhaps the Attourney General’s office, – convinced of a case with admissable evidence ) matters as discussed above do in fact impact.We have seen ‘Junius’ publish cartoons of Mr Clark MEP, including wareing his bedroom slippers whilst simultaneously correspondence backs up that which appears online.
    That is, derogeratory statements designed to undermine an original member who like myself and others similarly denegrated, started the party in the country from our own resources.When one reads about Mr Clark “…..his reputation for falling asleep……. time to hang up the slippers ! D.C…….. he has to go home for Horlicks and bed regardless………. “then he informs the world

    “….. some great mileage here for Junius………

    just a few bits to be put to print ! “

    Note the sneering !exclamation mark.

    He clearly states ” I will be happy to send on info to you in the future……..”

    Then why does he not publish the ‘info’ that explains why we lost so many decent volunteer members, the sources of the three £ 500 cheques, their onward transfer, into which accounts, the correspondence requesting back our hard earned money, and who exactly are the ‘Junius’ team who rather like Lord Rennard; are rather adept at getting their candidate elected.

    29,500 membership?
    could you please say where you got this figure from?
    esp as you say 2004.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Pain View Post
    That is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever heard and there is no truth in that what so ever. I presume posted by Paula who recently rejoined the UKIP Nottingham branch ( AKA Tiquipaya ), it’s nice to see her back to her old tricks again. I have never had my integrity questioned at a East Midland Meeting, in fact i was voted 6-0 twice last year by the regional committee as the regional chairman ( first committee was disbanded by Derek, so there had to be a re-vote by a second committee). Also quite interesting I have never had any payment from the East Mids Committee at all, in fact I have just organised my second regional conference in Skegness, both cost me a fair amount of money and a lot of time and effort. If anyone wants to know the truth these facts can be clarified by the RO or any committee members or the minutes of the meetings. Perhaps the person in question wants to ask the secretary for clarification, but that won’t happen because it’s a bare faced lie. If this is the best a failed member of UKIP can do against someone who has worked their socks off for UKIP since 2004, I feel sorry for her!How do you report a false statement on here?
    Here is the response of the underhand and cowardly FKEU – too ashamed of his lies, inuendo and behaviour to put his name to his cowardly carping:

    Intresting.
    Seems there are a nice group of people so desperate for UKIP to fail (as it seems they failed at being ukip themselves) they will spin lies to the sheep who lap them up as want to belive it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Pain View Post
    That is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever heard and there is no truth in that what so ever. I presume posted by Paula who recently rejoined the UKIP Nottingham branch ( AKA Tiquipaya ), it’s nice to see her back to her old tricks again. I have never had my integrity questioned at a East Midland Meeting, in fact i was voted 6-0 twice last year by the regional committee as the regional chairman ( first committee was disbanded by Derek, so there had to be a re-vote by a second committee). Also quite interesting I have never had any payment from the East Mids Committee at all, in fact I have just organised my second regional conference in Skegness, both cost me a fair amount of money and a lot of time and effort. If anyone wants to know the truth these facts can be clarified by the RO or any committee members or the minutes of the meetings. Perhaps the person in question wants to ask the secretary for clarification, but that won’t happen because it’s a bare faced lie. If this is the best a failed member of UKIP can do against someone who has worked their socks off for UKIP since 2004, I feel sorry for her!How do you report a false statement on here?
    Geoffrey Collier’s retort is:

    Chris Pain: While I do not know the identity of Tiquipaya, I am assured that it is not someone named Paula (whoever she is). From what you say evidence must exist as to her historic wrongdoings. Has she confessed to those? Is the R.O. to whom you refer, a Mr Ramsome who, for purposes of remuneration, denies being the RO and cites his occupation as that of Press Officer in EU ‘claims’ documentaion? The payments to you, I understand, relate to your candidacy in a parliamentary election, although I claim no first-hand knowledge as to the precise details. Apologise to the unfortunate Paula, keep rational, and start again.

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    Geoffrey, it’s quite ovbious that you know something about this slander and the person concerned! So let please put all the aleged info on here, re times, dates, people concerned and who posted this trash!!!!
    There is one problem I have never had any payements from the EMCC at all!
    I have not had a multiple of £500 cheques from the EMCC!
    I have not had a request by email, telephone or from the EMCC, because I have not had
    any money or had any funds period from the EMCC.
    Any one can contact any of the previous or the current EMCC members and my statement will be verified.This will then be confirmed as made up slander from someone that has a grudge against me personaly.
    So please can Tiquipa or yourself supply evidence of any kind re this issue, the answer is no because it does not exist. So please either put up or shut up and post a full appology on here!
    My NEC election result was exceptional, because other regions have got far more members than the East Mids, but this is just green eyed trouble making. After working hard in the party as an activist for eight years, organising two UKIP conferences, plus some decent results at GE’s by UKIP standards whilst repersenting the members, has gained their support. Then again it’s the MEP silly season soon and people will be crawling out from under their stones again, inorder to try to climb up the slimy pole.
    Junius in the past have both supported me and critised me, but there are several people whom I am aware have not voted for me because of the Junius recomendation, so it’s a two edged sword.
    So please Geoffrey please oblige with the information that I have requested above.

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    DELETED AS A DUPLICATE OF THE POST ABOVE!

I have a pretty clear understanding that the unfortunate Ian Gillman is unlikely to publish his evidence, probably using some ‘secret squirrel’ dellusion, and I know for certain he hasn’t a clue about Junius nor one shred of evidence that Chris Pain has ever spoken to or even knows Junius – though he may well speak to someone who supplies me with facts, as does Ian Gillman from time to time.Let us also be very clear that Derek Clark is a liar, untrustworthy, corrupt and self serving who has boasted openly of the amount of money he has defrauded the public purse of, and he was found guilty of defrauding the public purse of over £30,000 and ordered to repay the money he had perloined by OLAF – A similar amount of money as that which one of the other UKIP MEPs, Tom Wise, stole and for which Tom Wise was sentenced to 2 years in prison.I am morally certain that Chris Pain has never wittingly spoken to Junius and thus has never supplied Junius with material to publish. Regular readers will be aware that I personally NEVER confirm or deny who supplies me with the facts which I publish.

And then after an effort to censor the squabbling accusations and bickering broke out again (well it is UKIP! They fight like ferrets in a sack amongst the foot soldiers, just as their leadership does for lack of competence or ability) – note the time line:

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    Ian Gillman surely has proof of all he claims. I wonder why he declines to share the proof with the world. He could afford to lose a £500 deposit in Corby so the cost of a scanner cannot be beyond him.

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    Persons are taking to the telephone in some excitement now as a recently elected NEC member with great plans for his own reforms , a Chris Pain has so much to say.

    The word from many is that Chris P. in his G.E. campaign in Louth, Lincs. obtained £ 500 from the EMCC .
    Then he claimed that the money had not been paid to his campaign and he put a lot of pressure upon the officers to send another cheque. He said that the cheque had not arrived.

    Reluctantly, his campaign was sent another cheque for £ 500 on the clear understanding that if the first cheque turned up it was to be returned to the committee.

    Incredibly, both cheques were banked. A dishonest demand for the second cheque had been made and despite his assurances that only one cheque would be banked, both were.

    The EMCC, short of money and relying upon volunteers with many years standing of generousity were told about these matters. Chris P. was told in several telephone conversations to return the money, he failed to do so.
    Written requests were made for the return of the money, Chris P. ignored those requests.

    The EMCC , following the G.E. met and the R.O. Don Ransome made quite a speech about matters in Louth, and Chris P. in particular. He left an impression that Pain would not be encouraged any further in his membership of UKIP.Members felt let down and cheated.

    The MEP for the region Derek Clark experienced nasty e-mails circulated by Chris P. about him and he became aware of a steady yet ongoing campaign to destabalise him from his position. This, oddly whilst always boosting Pain’s position.

    I did hear that the party chairman was approached by Chris Pain for money too, but unsure of the amounts requested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiquipaya View Post
    Incredibly, both cheques were banked. A dishonest demand for the second cheque had been made and despite his assurances that only one cheque would be banked, both were.
    … Chris P. was told in several telephone conversations to return the money, he failed to do so.
    Written requests were made for the return of the money, Chris P. ignored those requests.

    Then the cowardly ‘Independent UKIP’ as ever ashamed to put his name to his sneering, defamations, inuendo and outright lies said:

    This was surely reported to the Police in 2005. What was the outcome of their investigation, as for some reason you’ve not made reference to that. Thanks.

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This was surely reported to the Police in 2005. What was the outcome of their investigation, as for some reason you’ve not made reference to that. Thanks.
To which Geoffrey Collier made the reply:

Independent UKIP: I made the accurate statement that Chris Pain was wrong to attribute to a Paula? the authorship of that posting. Who the lady is, or what reprehensible things which she did in the past, has no bearing whatever on the issue being discussed. She was certainly not the individual who posted that information. Mr Pain appears to have been voted on to the NEC to help to control the Party, while he clearly has difficulties in controlling himself. Why are the Forum rules applied so unevenly? An NEC member, for example, by the name of Mr Mcgough frequently makes accusations of certain individuals being in the ‘pay’ of others without required to produce evidence. Perhaps with the advantage of reflection, Mr Pain may recall his parliamentary election, and be willing to agree that his local branch did make a financial contribution to him. Is the gentleman saying that no such payment was made, and no banking evidence as a consequence can be produced? Was he both the candidate and sole financier of his campaign?

One can only speculate that Mick McGough’s lies, slanders and defamatory claims are permitted to remain because being known to all as a low life a liar and a cheat it is felt that the more he says the more he damages his own credibility as it is clear that his fellow travellers such as Independent UKIP, FKEU, SDP and their ilk are clearly damaging the credibility of UKIP – hard as that is to do since UKIP are now little more than the only available dustbin, wherein protesters against the two Political Parties in Britain and the LibDims can post their votes with virtually no fear of any long term consequence, as shown by the likes of those quoted above who ensure that UKIP will never achieve anything in domestic politics beyond the cult of the one man band.For more factual details regarding Chris Pain and these matters you may care to CLICK HERE

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UKIP Local Co-Ordinator falls foul of Attorney General

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UKIP Local Co-Ordinator falls foul of Attorney General’s John Venables, edict from The Bulger slaughter!

Again a failure of professional management from this self enriching clique of xenophobic, racist, anti homosexual supporting UKIP leadership!

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The very vile Mr Ciaron Goggins (sidekick of Joshua Bonehill) has taken to sharing your blog piece you did about me a while back.

Now, on your blog you say if there are any inaccuracies, we should email you.

I was never Berwick upon Tweed co-ordinator as there has never been a Berwick branch.I also never claimed to be hacked at all.I know you probably wont change said blog post but at least ive made you aware of it.If you are a decent as you think you , i`ll await the changes with baited breath 

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why is anyone surprised at yet another act of criminality from a front line Ukipper?

The number of UKIP MEPs found guilty of fraudulent abuse of public funds and ordered to repay money is notable with front runner so far: Tom Wise sent to prison for 2 years, having been aided by Lindsay Jenkins his staffer who was also charged though action was dropped against her when Tom Wise changed his plea to ‘Guilty’ well into the trial process realising he was ‘Banged to rights’.

Abuse of supporters is also a norm for UKIP if they dare to question the stupidity and ineptitude of the leadership, criminal spamming, lies, fantasies and dishonest defamation goes right to the top in defence of their self enriching status on the gravy train, with an out of control claque of cowardly fools unchallenged by the leadership squabbling & posturing for richly rewarded prefferment.

Here is yet another example of irresponsible criminality from a UKIP front runner, that was flagged to me by one of many UKIP supporters who want to see UKIP cleaned-up to make it fit for purpose and represent the decent, patriotic grass roots voters who want to see Britain Leave-The-EU:

UKIPs Maggie Chapman in Venables panic

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It is always very well mouthing off on the internet about breaking the law and stating that ‘you will see them in court’ but when it catches up with you it is rather a different story.

This happened to UKIP Berwick upon Tweed co-ordinator and fan of the Scottish Defence League, Maggie Chapman when she found out that the Attorney General’s office are prosecuting anyone who posted pictures of John Venables.

Chapman came up with the ingenious defence that she was hacked, a defence which is often used by the English Defence League, a defence that does not work, which lands Chapman in Derek Fender Corner for committing a criminal act.

Here is the original posts and the Internet bravado.

The reason we oppose far right extremists clambering over themselves to post these pictures is for this reason.

 Further reading

Gandy and Chapman in UKIP “Fake Patriots” Storm – EDL News

Maggie Chapman – The Berwick UKIP Racist

UKIP Berwick – Maggie Chapman and Nazis

UKIPs Maggie Chapman in Venables panic

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That’s all they are, the modern day Lynch Mobs, they just need the torches and pitchforks.

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Chris Paine now on UKIP NEC but for how long!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/02/2013

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Chris Paine now on UKIP NEC but for how long!

Repeatedly UKIP has seen the very few honest individuals who get on The NEC dishonestly ousted be that Dr. David Abbott, Richard Suchorzewski, Dr. Eric Edmond and others!

All to maintain the cover on areas of corruption of Farage’s UKIP!

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I was interested to note the strange comments on Anthony Butcher’s squalid little forum regarding the placement of individuals on UKIP’s NEC, clearly based on long term experience of UKIP selections and internal elections, the result can not be trusted to have been fairly rigged, and in fact the whole farrago was called into question due to the inept manner in which the rigging seemed to be taking place – hence the re-run!

Consider first the comments on the corrupt and managed Butcher Forum where lies and defamatory slander is something of a norm and every low life suppoerter of UKIP defames anyone with a reasoned alternative view yet few if any have the integrity to put their names to their idiotic comments as they shelter in cowardly and unconvincing anonymity behind their childish fake names!

The comments I noted were:

Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gillman:
We know that ‘Junius’ has consistantly supported one candidate.

No doubt ‘Junius’ and Mr Watkins will now require the quid-pro-quo for that support.

A rather silly fantasy though I gather Team Junius did indeed support Chris Paine.
It would be interesting to know ( to flatter the rather sad, untrustworthy and pedantic lad) what so called ‘quid pro quo’ it is that he fantasises of, particularly since he will note I never supported Paine as a candidate, all be it he was a cut above the others in terms of long term loyalty to UKIP having first risen to prominence in Boston some years ago as a supporter of one of UKIP’s most successful ever PPCs.
Quote Originally Posted by the cowardly Tiquipaya:

I fail to comprehend how Junius and a certain GLW can support Chris Paine his integrity has been questionable at past UKIP East Midlands meetings. Failure to repay £500 pounds as requested by the then treasurer and also a request from the EM committee were ignored by this gentleman. He claimed the cheque had been lost in the post and requested a duplicate the committee obliged only to find that both cheques had been presented for payment, therefore a request for repayment of £500 was made on repeated occasions via email, telephone and verbally without success. This money was earmarked for the Corby constituency, the greed of Chris Paine denied the hardworking members of the said constituency money that had already been allocated to them via the EM committee. Is this the calibre of person that UKIP wants to serve on its NEC? A person that is active for self advancement only.

One can not be surprised that this cowardly individual ‘fails to comprehend’ when he has in fact failed to even notice I had not supported Paine to any degree on my blogs – and you will note my comments at CLICK HERE
In fact I fail to see how this cowardly little man can see my publication of Paine’s letter of 30-Apr-2012 denouncing the behaviour of Derek Clarke’s puppet Regional Committee can be seen as helping Paine when one realises the leadership clique and its claque of cowards and fools have such an antipathy for honesty.
To deal with the claims made by the cowardly poster there would be far more – even some – credibility were he to put his name to his story!

I can see that such a situation might pertain in a committee managed by a drunken taxi driver and an MEP who has openly, frequently and repetitively lied to voters, members and the committee he gathered around him, about his own criminality and fraud yet was all too happy to boast at a public meeting in Derbyshire of how he defrtauded The EU on a regular basis.

You will note the money of which he boasted would not seem to reflect in donations to the party beyond ‘investment’ in getting himself back on the gravy train!

Perhaps it is the utter lack of integrity and habitual dishonesty of Derek Clarke that gave rise tyo the claims made by Anthony Butcher’s cowardly poster and his defamatory statements, which I for one will take with a pinch of salt until he is man enough to put his name to what can otherwise be treated as merely a defamatory smear.

That I have made little mention of the placement of Farage’s support team is hardly surprising as without exception they are unmemorable other than the odious and corrupt Mick McGough who no one of any integrity or self respe3ct would wish to have dealings with.

Perhaps the thoughts of The Junius Team might help clarify the situation:

Sunday, 24 February 2013

Congratulations to Chris Pain!

 

We would like to congratulate Chris Pain on his election to the NEC. At last, the NEC will have an independent voice! And we would like to thank all our readers who followed our advice to vote for Mr Pain.

We note that Wolfman McGough was re-elected. He now has another term in which to kiss the Fuhrer’s backside. He will enjoy that. It proves that you don’t have to have brains or talent to get ahead in UKIP. You only need the willingness to prostitute yourself for Nigel.

The Wolfman gets ready to enjoy another term as Nigel’s a*se licker
 
The other winning candidates are non-entities with little talent or brains – ideal members of the Farage Sycophants Club.
 
Alan Bown (2,678)

Piers Wauchope (2,331)

Sebastian Fairweather (2,293)

Posted by at 14:57

Just for the record may I add my congratulations to Chris Paine for having been placed top in ‘The Process’ – no mean achievement for someone who is regularly quizzed and accused of supplying information to Team Junius – as ever without a shred of evidence on the part of the corrupt leadership of UKIP and its vile claque of cowards and fools.

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Farage’s Plant in Eastleigh of Greater Significance!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 23/02/2013

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with Marta Andreasen now departed, to join the Tories who totally rejected her as a candidate when first she tried to wheedle her way into a seat in The EU, and aware of just how crass are Nigel Farage’s abilities in man management and selection I felt a few more details might be apposite on Mrs. Diane Martine James.
JAMES, Diane Martine 02
Let me first thank a couple of friends, who assisted me, individuals who, like me, support the primary aims of UKIP and desperately wish the party could be cleaned-up and rid of the self seeking dross that has hijacked the leadership positions and the odious claque they sponsor to keep themselves on the gravy train.

I found companies associated with Diane Martine James (DMJ1) here:
http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/906262574

and (DMJ2) here:
http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/915838123

and with Diane Martine James Forrest here (whether an assumed name for convenience or a tacit nod to a marriage she seeks to hide, as John Richard Forrest is, amongst other things, an adviser and presumably lobbyist assisting The EU!)

http://www.cdrex.com/diane-martine-james-forrest/1455316.html

I noted at DMJ1 that her co-directors of Hamgain were Edwin James (b.1928) and Sandra S Cheesman (b.1962), who I assume to be her father and sister.
Edwin’s address was in Chatham which, if the family home, fits with UKIP’s notes that Diane was brought up in Kent;   Sandra appears here:
http://www.192.com/atoz/people/cheesman/sandra/po18/2593831634/

sharing her address in Chidham with a David Roger Cheesman in 2002,

and as Sandra S James from 2003. (?Divorced?)

She also turns up on Chidham & Hambrook parish council!

I found companies associated with John Richard Forrest (JRF1) here:
http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/900734577

and here (JRF2):
http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/913360321

and here (JRF3):
http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/913360321

and also here (JRF4):
https://www.duedil.com/director/916443772/john-richard-forrest

though at first I wasn’t sure they were all the same person, it does seem they are.

John Richard Forrest’s biography can be found at:
http://www.gleesonexecutive.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=138&Itemid=535

this links all three lists, with NTL, Virgin Media, 3i and Blue Wave from (JRF1),
Zinwave from (JRF2)
and European Microelectronics Academy and Narec Capital from (JRF3).

It also gives the interesting piece of information about him advising the European Commission on technology initiatives!

One almost loses the will to live trying to untangle his different addresses as it is hard to tell whether those I found were private or company addresses.

One that is interesting is here:
http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/director/257037/john-forrest

Balmer Lawn Road, Brockenhurst, is also the address of his co-director Jane Patricia Forrest at Forrest Farm Enterprises (JRF1) and Egan International (JRF2).

There was also an Alexander I Forrest living there in about 2002-3.

Could Jane Patricia Forrest be a now cast off wife and Alexander a son?

At all events it would seem he currently co-habits with Diane. A recent marriage is more than possible and aware of her age and political aspirations Diane opted to retain her maiden name.

There was a planning application in 2005 from Mr & Mrs J Forrest at Abingerwood, whether prior to her relationship with John Forrest or utilising either her new married name or an assumed name and style (Perfectly legal to use ANY name one may choose as long as there is no intention to defraud – I should know as I added a hyphen to my name whilst still at school and have used my name with a hyphen ever since).

Here is that planning application:
http://waverweb.waverley.gov.uk/live/wbc/pwl.nsf/(RefNoLU)/WA20052266?OpenDocument

JAMES, Diane Martine 01

Probably none of this matters very much. The silly part is if I could only have found some basic checkable information I would very soon have lost interest in her, but it tends to bugs me that none of the details released by UKIP quite fit.

UKIP’s track record of inventing CVs and backgrounds of its ‘chosen’ plants is near consistently dishonest, which leads one to doubt as one knows as a fact UKIP can not be trusted to tell the truth.

There are no names of the “succession of major pharmaceutical companies” it is claimed she worked for, the “healthcare agency” business she established, what she was doing in Boston, or the “independent consulting business” she founded.

Googling the Scottish healthcare conference her company launched, NHS Masterclass, and HFMA and I found no reference to her at all! Which in the light of the lies Nigel Farage told us and aided David Bannerman and also Marta QAndreasen to promote gives rise to reasonable suspicions I am sure any honest individual would agree!

Only in connection with ProVen VCT does one come across this:
http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Tearsheets/Directors-and-dealings?s=PHV:LSE

You will note: “Ms. Diane James is Non-Executive Independent Director of ProVen Health VCT Plc.
She is an independent adviser to a number of healthcare organisations involving healthcare innovation in the Uk and Europe.
She was formerly the chair of the Surrey & Sussex CLRN (Comprehensive Local Research Network), part of the National Institute for Health Research which was established by the UK Department of Health in 2006, to support clinical innovation research in the UK.
She has a wide range of healthcare experience at senior management level in both the public and private sectors and has founded, developed and divested a specialist healthcare communications business.”

CAVEAT: This MAY be another Diane James as there is reference of an American born Diane James who has 30 years experience in Health Care – perhaps, as so often happens in UKip Diane James has confused herself with someone else (many will remember the pack of lies provided in the CV of David Bannerman!)

also note references on pages pages 12 and 28 at:
http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Tearsheets/Directors-and-dealings?s=PHV:LS

Even her education is puzzling, details proving elusive.
She is supposed to have attended Thames Valley University, but it only became a university in 1992 when she was 33 and had supposedly was establishing her own businesses. Did she manage to fit in a part-time degree there as well, or did she in fact do a course at what was then the Thames Valley College of Higher Education when she was 18 or so?

I don’t know nor especially care, but it’s typical of her that even over this there’s a question mark.

I freely admit there is a tendency not to give her the benefit of the doubt in the light of the regular dishonesty of UKIP over Nigel Farage’s chosen ‘plants’.

Her twitter thingy is at https://twitter.com/DianeUKIP
Clearly a construct for her new ambitions with UKIP, as you will note she remains an Independent in her actual political achievements, choosing NOT to represent UKIP or give her name to supporting UKIP

Finally, Farage tweeted on Feb 15, “I was at the Eastleigh campaign base before Brux today. Always travelling”.  I’d already seen at

http://nigelfaragemep.co.uk/pages/posts/nigel-farage-in-eastleigh-to-help-launch-by-election-campaign-236.php

his excuse for not standing at Eastleigh himself was:
‘The reason is simple: I am leading this party into the local elections in England and then the European elections and thirdly, it’s quite busy in Brussels and I need to be there”.

Though I believe it was a sensible decision, in that for Farage to fail yet again, in a high profile by-election would serve him ill – even were it good for UKIP, which I do not believe his presence to be save amongst the chavery of the pub class who are increasingly being reduced in numbers.

Farage’s much publicised excuses bear clower inspection in the light of UKIP’s general dishonesty!

Well, the locals are not for another nine weeks after Eastleigh, and the Euros for over a year, so a look at the EP’s calendar seemed apposite:
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/pdf/general/cal2013.pdf

to see what pressing matters were tying him up over there.

The first week of the Eastleigh campaign was MEPs’ constituency week when he shouldn’t have been in Brussels at all, and weeks 2 and 3 are committee weeks which don’t involve Farage as he’s not on any committees! His most recent resignation being from The Fisheries Committee after his embarrassing failure of leadership where UKIP failed to vote on The CFP in the Parliament and it was made public that he had failed to attend the committee for a considerable time!

The only day on which he would have scheduled meetings would be the day before polling, when there are group and Conference of Presidents meetings, involving his milch cow the racist, anti homosexual, xenophobic, anti Jewish supporting EFD Group he has dragged UKIP into the gutter of EU politics to support!

So what else is he so busy doing in Brussels?

We are obviously not meant to ask!
Interesting that Marta has now gone. Looks like I was right in my predictions and the prediction that Diane James was Nigel Farage’s new plant for the job as an MEP – well I guess UKIP must face facts that there is no point in a candidate who might outshine Farage as he would soon destroy them.

The other sad fact is there is absolutely no one of any visible merit who could step up to the plate in UKIP South East, so how ever foolish Farage’s manouvering is as leader, as his track record has shown again and again he uses and abuses people for his personal gain and all too often his judgement in personnel selection is at best crass!

For more details on Farage’s latest plant Diane Martine James, or might that be Diane Martine Forrest and a deliberate obfuscation of identity CLICK HERE

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Marta Andreasen MEP Quits Farage’s UKIP & EFD

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/02/2013

Marta Andreasen MEP Quits Farage’s UKIP & EFD
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Marta Andreasen MEP Quits Nigel Farage’s UKIP & their racist, xenophobic, anti Jewish, anti homosexual EFD Pan EU Political Group!!

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Let us not forget that Marta Andreasen was the protege of Niogel Farage, Malcolm Lord Pearson & Huw Williams – 3 utter fools in any political terms, without a shred of leadership skills, competent judgement or reliability let alone loyalty to others between them.

Marta Andreasen was foist on the UKIP members as something of a ‘Bill of Goods’ her status was lied about and her achievements and CV were equally corrupt. Likewise the manner of the dishonesty of her ‘placement‘ by Farage as she stood in more than one Region so as to ensure her appointment and her identity as a resident of these United Kingdoms eligible for election based on a pack of lies from UKIP’s leadership scoundrels.

For more details CLICK HERE

For more factual details of Marta Andreasen CLICK HERE

For details regarding the Court case findings against Marta Andreasen showing her dishonesty CLICK HERE

22 February 2013 Last updated at 22:52

UKIP MEP Marta Andreasen defects to Conservatives

UKIP leader Nigel Farage and MEP Marta Andreasen Relations between UKIP leader Nigel Farage and MEP Marta Andreasen had become strained.

A senior member of the UK Independence Party has said she is leaving the party to join the Conservatives.

Marta Andreasen, a South East region MEP, sent her resignation letter to UKIP leader Nigel Farage on Friday.

It comes two weeks after she accused the UKIP leader of bullying and being “anti-women” and “a Stalinist” and threatened to leave the party.

In response, Mr Farage said the Tories “deserve what is coming to them” and added: “The woman is impossible.”

Marta Andreasen, 58, said resigning from UKIP to join the Conservatives was not a decision that she took lightly.

In an open letter expressing her dissatisfaction with UKIP, she accused Mr Farage of treating any views other than his own with contempt.

Ms Andreasen said she did not believe the party could offer “real leadership”.

Continue reading the main story

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The woman is impossible”

Nigel Farage UKIP leader

She said Mr Farage surrounded himself with “an old boys club of like-minded sycophants”, whereas Conservative leader David Cameron had shown “he can listen, adapt and do what is right for the country, not just for personal gain”.

The MEP said the prime minster’s speech on Britain’s relationship with the EU last month had convinced her the Conservatives were the “true referendum party”.

Conservative Party Chairman Grant Shapps said he was “delighted” to welcome her to his party.

“She brings a wealth of experience – and a dedication to fight for what’s best for the British people in Europe,” he said.

Meanwhile, in a statement issued on Friday, the UKIP leader said: “Having left the OECD, the European Commission and UKIP in unpleasant circumstances, the Conservative Party deserve what is coming to them.

“The woman is impossible.”

Sole femaleRelations between Ms Andreasen and Mr Farage had been strained for some time, with Ms Andreasen calling for Mr Farage to quit after the party’s poor performance in council elections in 2011.

Since then, UKIP’s fortunes have improved and it recorded its best performance in a parliamentary by-election in Rotherham in December.

Ms Andreasen, who is Spanish but was born in Argentina, worked as an auditor and financial director for various companies before working as an accountant for the European Commission in 2002.

She later joined UKIP and was elected in 2009. She currently sits on six committees in the European Parliament.

Ms Andreasen had been UKIP’s sole remaining female MEP, after Nikki Sinclaire was expelled from the party in 2010.

Ms Sinclaire later brought a sexual discrimination case against the party which was subsequently dropped.

At the time, UKIP issued a statement affirming its “opposition to discrimination on all grounds as prescribed by law and otherwise” and stressed that sexuality was “no bar to involvement or advancement” within the party.

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The Tories may well make show of welcoming Marta Andreasen, par5ticularly at such a propitious time, as an endorsement of David Campbell’s duplicitous fudged promise of a referendum on The EU and his pretence that he can renegotiate the terms of Britain’s entrapment in The EU scam – the date of the betrayal of UKIP by Marta Andreasen is also of value in exposing the irrelevance of UKIP in the Eastleigh by election.

I believe the Tories will live to regret their involvement with this duplicitous foreigner just as they do with regard to the previous betrayal of UKIP by the dishonest and duplicitous scoundrel David Bannerman.

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UKIP NEC Results Seemingly A Pack of Lies!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/02/2013

UKIP NEC Results Seemingly A Pack of Lies!
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UKIP NEC Results Seemingly A Pack of Lies!

Again and again UKIP manages the most inept and unprofessional placement of their clique and the muppets in their claque ever hoping for preferment keep quiet and abuse anyone who dares point out the incompetence!

Little wonder the British domestic electorate do not trust, vote for or support UKIP except as a dustbin for the protest voters!

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this statement by UKIP on its official web site at CLICK HERE is quite clearly inaccurate:

NEC election results

Friday, 22nd February 2013

The following results were today announced in the delayed 2012 UKIP National Executive Committee elections:

From a turnout of 32.4% those elected to the five vacant NEC positions were:

Chris Pain  (2,849 votes)

Mick McGough (2,696)

Alan Bown  (2,678)

Piers Wauchope  (2,331)

Sebastian Fairweather  (2,293)

You can see the full NEC here.

These 5 candidates attracted a total of 12,847 votes – have taken no interest in the process as UKIP selections and so called elections are so consistently utterly dishonest and corrupted.

Here we go again!

IF only 5 candidates had been on the list for rigging and 12,847 votes were cast for them ecen that means with 32.4% of the party voting then the party claims to have just short of 40,000 members!

There were many more hopefulls who wanted to take a step forward on the gravy train whether that means the fudged figures were for a membership of 40,000 or hugely more is merely an indication of the corruption and incompetence of UKIP leadership and whatever happened to the endless promises of professionalising the party?
It is almost as much of a farce as the incompetence of the manner in which it is believed by many that the last leadership rigging was carried out or even more notable the farce of foisting The Farage Constitution on the party so that he could draw up the list of candidates to suit himself using his puppets on the NEC.
Clearly I was right to largely ignore the placement of NEC members as proven by the scam shown above.
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