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‘The higher up the tree …’ re: Farage & UKIP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 10/03/2013

‘The higher up the tree …’ re: Farage & UKIP
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‘The higher up the tree the monkey climbs the more you see its Rs…’ & so it seems with recent articles in the media re: Nigel Farage & UKIP!

It would seem from press contacts that there are many more such articles in the pipeline!

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Hi,
yet further evidence of the imutable law that ‘The higher up the tree the monkey climbs the more you see its Rs …’
Acting within his abilities as UKIP’s performing monkey there is no doubt that he has had considerable success over recent months in re-establishing membership numbers from the catastrophic low to which they fell after he took over the leadership from Roger Knapman who had pushed them up to almost 30,000 in 2004. Under Farage, due to poor leadership skills mainly they had collapsed to an apparent 8 to 10,000.
Now that they are recovering, by dint of giving away memberships and scams such as The Ashford & The Preston call centers, one has to wonder just how meaningful are the quoted membership figures – firstly due to a propensity for dishonesty on the part of UKIP but more relevantly in the light of the collapse of calliber of UKIP leadership, staff and senior members and the huge percentage of informed and competent activists who seem to have been replaced in many aspects by the dross of mankind placing the party firmly in the class of the dustbin of politics.
You will note this particular dustbin readily accepts the dross rejects of the Tory Party, whom they reward and fete with glee and are all too happy to prostitute their principles for publicity and become the dustbin into which domestic voters cast their protests against the political establishment – much as the osious and untrustworthy LibDims did formerly and their predecessors the SDP and Liberals in previous incarnations.

When Nigel’s golden touch let him down

By Andrew Pierce

PUBLISHED: 22:58, 10 March 2013 | UPDATED: 11:58, 11 March 2013

Ukip leader Nigel Farage may appear to have the Midas touch when it comes to appealing to voters fed up with the main political parties, but there are questions about his business acumen.

The MEP, whose previous career was in the City as a trader of commodities such as tin and cocoa, has run into trouble with a company called Farage Ltd.

Six weeks before the Revenue lodged a High Court petition to wind up the firm, Mr Farage resigned as company secretary.

 
Not such a Midas touch: MEP Nigel Farage, whose previous career was in the City as a trader of commodities such as tin and cocoa, has run into trouble with a company called Farage LtdNot such a Midas touch: MEP Nigel Farage, whose previous career was in the City as a trader of commodities such as tin and cocoa, has run into trouble with a company called Farage Ltd

His son, Andrew, remains the sole director of the business, which is the subject of a ‘voluntary order’, which is one step from bankruptcy. 

The company has liabilities of £135,677 and the taxman is the biggest creditor. It has also failed to file its annual return and accounts on time, which will lead to automatic financial penalties of thousands of pounds.

In his party’s recent by-election address in Eastleigh, Farage explained that UKIP wanted to ‘reduce everyone’s taxes, reintroduce free student grants, increase the size of the military and the police, put more people in prison, and enhance pensions’.

Such policies would cost the State a handsome sum and UKIP’s promises are unrealistic at the best of times — but they depend on all companies paying their taxes.

To view the original of this article CLICK HERE

Do note:
Andrew Farage is Nigel’s brother and NOT one of his two sons – Sam & Thomas who were, as I recall, born in 1989 & 1991 respectively – sons of his first wife.

Note:
Nigel Farage worked at Drexal Burnham and Lambert  LEFT 2004.11.08 (shortly before a court action which as I recall put numerous senior staffers in prison BUT check financial press!)

COMPANY ADDRESS of FARAGE Ltd. was:

57A BROADWAY, LEIGH ON SEA, ESSEX SS9 1PE
Nigel Farage’s BROTHER: Andrew Robert Guy Farage of:
249 Poverest Road, Petts Wood, Kent, BR5 1RD
Date Of Birth 08-06-1966
was Nigel Farage’s co director.

Farage Family Educational Trust-1654 is a separate entity under which NF banked a single cheque, on one occasion, for, as I recall, £1/4 Million in an off shore account in the Isle of Man!

There are several failed companies that have been wound up in Farage’s past and others still trading but seemingly not declared in his declaration of interests at EU.

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Farage tries to blackmail Tories via Murdoch!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/03/2013

Farage tries to blackmail Tories via Murdoch!
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Nigel Farage tries to blackmail Tories via Murdoch!
This smacks more of fulfilling Farage’s personal ambitions than UKIP’s interests or even less the interests of Britain!!

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yet another damaging article for Farage & his party and as I have warned, in an effort to clean-up UKIP and try to make it fit for purpose over several years, ‘The higher up the tree the monkey climbs the more you see its Rs …’
One wonders how it will play in reality that Farage admitted his stupidity in failing to set his password on his mobile and believing that mobile phones are secure, against all evidence to obtain money from Rupert Murdoch’s media empire by way of personal competition for the alleged hacking of his mobile because of his position in UKIP and thus the EU on the phone funded by the tax payer!
I have a strange feeling that someone as competent as Murdoch would not have need to boast of dinner with an also ran politician, so has this article shown that Farage and his claque are not to be trusted – being willing to leak confidential meetings in the strange belief it might enhance his credibility!

Farage suggests Conservative pact at secret dinner with Murdoch

Nigel Farage, the leader of the UK Independence Party, held a private dinner with Rupert Murdoch earlier this week in which he suggested he would form an electoral pact with the Conservatives if the Prime Minister stepped down.

 Farage suggests Conservative pact at secret dinner with Murdoch
Mr Farage is understood to have told Mr Murdoch he hopes to win half of the seats in next year’s European election Photo: Getty Images
 
Robert Winnett

By , Political Editor

10:00PM GMT 07 Mar 2013

The media tycoon invited Mr Farage to a dinner at his central London flat on Tuesday evening in the wake of Ukip’s strong performance at the Eastleigh by-election.

It was the pair’s first meeting and underlines the growing political influence of the fringe party. The Ukip leader is understood to have told Mr Murdoch that he hopes to win half of the seats in next year’s European election.

He said he will then set out plans to join forces with the Conservatives to fight Labour in the 2015 general election, but only if David Cameron agrees to step down as the party leader, well-placed sources said.

Mr Murdoch is said to be supportive of Mr Farage’s views towards Europe and his backing for new grammar schools, but more sceptical about Ukip’s stance on immigration. The emergence of the secret meeting is likely to add to the growing pressure on the Prime Minister amid speculation that Cabinet ministers are positioning themselves for future leadership bids.

Theresa May, the Home Secretary, has recently emerged as a potential Tory leader after defying Cabinet calls for her to relax Britain’s immigration rules.

Mr Cameron has sought to dismiss Ukip as a party of “fruitcakes” and “closet racists” but several Conservative MPs believe it should be taken seriously and a deal should be done with Mr Farage. The Ukip leader is thought to be prepared to do a deal with virtually any other leader of the Conservatives except Mr Cameron, whom he does not trust.

Last week, Ukip beat the Conservatives into third place in the Eastleigh by-election which appears to have led to a series of announcements from the Government on immigration as it seeks to address the growing electoral threat.

Mr Murdoch is thought to share Mr Farage’s disdain for the Prime Minister and is not thought to have met Mr Cameron since the phone hacking scandal at the News of the World erupted in 2011. However, the chairman of News Corporation has maintained cordial relationships with several senior Conservative figures, including Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London, and Michael Gove, the Education Secretary.

Mr Murdoch is also understood to have hosted a private dinner attended by Owen Paterson, a Right-wing Eurosceptic member of the Cabinet, earlier this week.

Before the last election, Mr Cameron and other senior Conservatives made intensive efforts to secure the support of Mr Murdoch’s British newspapers, particularly The Sun.

To view the original of this article CLICK HERE
This article in conjunction with the expected front page article in tomorrow’s Guardian and its follow up can hardly be seen as helpful to either UKIP or these United Kingdoms and this would seem to indicate Farage’s efforts to remove ANY personal challenge to his supremacy even beyond his party!
It is well discussed and published on this blog that Farage has made extensive overtures to the Tory Party for his personal gain – repeatedly thwarted by the more realistic and secure elements of the Conservative Party!
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Greg_L-W..

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UKIP Forum an over controlled Info source!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/03/2013

UKIP Forum an over controlled Info source!
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UKIP Forum is an over controlled Info source for both the media and those who seek to clean up UKIP to make it fit for purpose!

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it is interesting to note that UKIP has learned so very little that they believe they have some form of secrecy on their members only forum!
This naive belief is as fashionably fatuous as the belief that mobile phones are or even might be secure – again and again socalled self styled ‘celebs’ line up in greed for morally and ethically unjustifiable compensation when for their very existence they are dependent on publicity and voyeurism yet they line up to tell the world they are idiots and have had confidential data on their mobiles hacked!
Even politicians claim they have been hacked, thereby admitting they have no understanding of the technology they use and on which they legislate! Further who would display ANY interest in these nobodies were they not holding positions for the public yet it is they who seek compensation for their stupidity, compensation that they seem unanimously to take control of when it is their constituents and parties are the losers by their foolish naivete!
Can UKIP really not realise many of us with an interest in UKIP read their Forum either by being members of UKIP or using details supplied by members who wish to see UKIP cleaned up and made fit for purpose and yet others have material forwarded to them by members!
A forum is, like a mobile phone, NOT a secure means of communication and perhaps one is justified in asking just why would any party wish to keep secret member discussions – just what are they ashamed of! The Tory Forums are open to read by all.
If a party can not put its points and debate its views with clarity, manners and ethics just who would wish to vote for them anyway! What better way to convince potential voters and supporters than informed and convincing factual debate on an open forum!
Repeatedly UKIP are shown by their own behaviour to be unprofessional, dishonest, corrupt, bullying, racist, anti homosexual and as has been said more than once a collection of ‘fruitcakes, nutters & loony tunes’ acting as The BNP in blazers who from fear and inability to make clear their message and even convince their own members have a proscribed list of people who may not join their party including ex members such as the now defunkt UK First Party (whose members and supporters they can not define and therefore invent) and ex members of the BNP and EDL etc.
Grown up parties are willing to accept converts from all sources, but UKIP proclaim a stance of Libertarian politics yet clearly believe this to mean libertine!

Buoyant Ukip battles to contain party’s most extreme elements

After beating the Tories to clinch second place in the Eastleigh byelection, Nigel Farage’s party is aiming to be squeaky clean

Nigel Farage

Ukip leader Nigel Farage in Eastleigh after the party came second in the byelection, ahead of the Tories. Photograph: Matt Cardy/Getty Images

Every political party has its fringe, but not many have members whose policy priorities include death to all squirrels, the end of the NHS and a return to the gold standard.

The United Kingdom Independence party is a different case. As Nigel Farage, the party leader, enjoyed his popularity bounce following Ukip’s second place at the Eastleigh byelection – flying to Canada to meet global rightwing heavyweights including the former Australian prime minister John Howard and the US Tea Party guru Ron Paul – officials were scrambling to contain the party’s most extreme elements, including xenophobia and racism.

On one members’ message board about migrants from Romania and Bulgaria, Ukip member Raymond Adams said this week: “Nothing less than ethnic cleansing is taking place. The Lib-Lab-Con EU puppets are dutifully diluting the English in particular to eradicate any nasty Nationalism. Then the next generation can be loyal and dutiful EU clones. EUtopia will have arrived!”

John Patrick added: “If there really are some 4 million Romanians and Bulgarians arriving within the year, I just hope our police are ready. We will have to build more prisons and increase the benefit payments.”

The remarks have been defended by the party chairman, Steve Crowther, but others have been removed. On threads where two members had reportedly linked homosexuality to paedophilia, Jonathan Arnott, the party’s general secretary, complained: “I’ve locked a number of gay marriage/adoption/etc threads which seem to have turned to both sides using it as an excuse to have a go at each other. Some of the personal abuse – on both sides – is some of the worst we’ve had on this forum.”

On Tuesday, Farage was the star turn at a “raucous” meeting of 100 party backers at the Ukip Patrons Club for donors giving more than £1,000. The gathering, the first since the byelection success, took place at the East India Club in St James’s Square where party loyalists dined on “the roast beef of old England” washed down with claret. But beyond London clubland, senior officials have warned “wackier” elements to rein in their excesses or leave, and with party sources saying Farage has flown to Monaco, Zurich and the Channel Islands recently to meet potential backers, message control is firmly on the agenda.

“Its time to start falling in line,” said one party official. “We have to be ready for more scrutiny and responsibility.”

Activist John Patrick said on a members’ forum: “We must now ensure, even more, that we are squeaky clean, and remain that way, if we don’t want the shell-shocked Tories to catch us out. No stings, and watch out for the secret recorders [and] cameras.”

The party machine is to move into more professional accommodation from its cramped floor of the Conservative party’s old HQ in Smith Square, Westminster, and will take space behind Claridges hotel in the same Mayfair building as Max Clifford’s PR offices. Rents in the building are among the most expensive in London at more than £65 per square foot.

The party declined to say who was paying for the space.

There are plenty of awkward associations in his party for Farage to negotiate from his new base. In January, the Dewsbury, West Yorkshire branch of the far-right English Defence League declared its support for Ukip and one member, John Emms, complained on Ukip’s official web forum that the British National party was “subject to persecution by the Political Correction Liberal Left thugs”.

Some of Ukip’s leading lights are feted by the hard right abroad. In February, in the wake of the Sandy Hook school massacre in Connecticut in which 20 children and six adults were shot dead, Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, the party’s former deputy leader, appeared on a rightwing US chatshow describing post-Dunblane gun control in Britain as “kneejerk”.

He also maintained that the European Union was a dictatorship and described Australia’s prime minister, Julia Gillard, as a communist.

Speaking about environmentalism, Monckton decried ICLEI, the international network of local government bodies dedicated to sustainable development, as “the new dictators” and “straightforward, outright in-your-face communism dressed up to appear like it is to do with the environment”.

To view the original article CLICK HERE
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Greg_L-W..

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UKIP In Yet Another Muddle on Peter Reeves’ Patch!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/03/2013

UKIP In Yet Another Muddle Peter Reeves’ patch!

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UKIP In Yet Another Muddle on Peter Reeves’ Patch!
Little wonder that the duplicitous Gollom is stirring the pot!

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it is just this sort of utterly idiotic article that UKIP attracts that not only gives them the well earned reputation as cranks, closet racists and gadflies but shows just how unprofessional they are.

As for ‘paying their own membership fees’ many will remember the Conservative reject who UKIP laid claim to who did not pay his own membership fee and subsequently denied ever having been a member of UKIP!

Also worthy of note are the large percentage of UKIP members who were given free membership in an attempt to boost membership levels in an effort to fudge an appearance of success and achievement, growth and credibility!

Make of the article what you will!! Minded that both The Telegraph and Guardian have articles showing just how unbprofessional and bulluying UKIP is and its anti female stance can be, lined up for tomorrow and I’m told the Guardian will be front page!

UKIP top brass fuming over self appointed ‘Cambs Media Liaison Officer’ responsible for immigration protest who is not even a party member

By John Elworthy Thursday, March 7, 2013
3:57 PM

Sharon Jardine, UKIP.

 A WOMAN who claims to be “UKIP Cambs Media Liaison Officer” is self appointed and not even a member of the party, it was revealed today

Sharon Jardine is nothing to do with UKIP, said the party’s eastern region press officer Stuart Gulleford, who doubles as adviser to UKIP MEP Stuart Agnew.

Mrs Jardine suddenly sprung to the fore when she began organising a Facebook page entitled ‘Wisbech Immigration Issues’ which plans a protest in Wisbech Park in May.

Mrs Jardine, of Tydd Gote, said she planned to stand for UKIP in May’s county council elections and was organising a protest to allow people to voice the view that “immigration is out of control.”

She said: “I started to learn more about UKIP but I’m not someone who is political. I just believe that immigration is out of control and it needs to be sorted”

But Mr Gulleford said today: “Her title is unofficial. This is people who have gotten a bit carried away with themselves.”

He was “pretty annoyed” with Mrs Jardine since no one had accredited her with any title connected to UKIP.

“We have nothing to do with the protest march- and I knew nothing of it until newspaper cuttings were brought to my attention,” he said.

“People seem to be adopting titles that don’t exist.”

Mr Gulleford said UKIP did not have a separate NE Cambs branch and he would be asking why Ken Perrin of Chatteris describes himself as “UKIP organiser NE Cambs” in letters to the press.

Mr Gulleford said: “Mr Perrin has no authority to give people job titles and Mrs Jardine certainly does not speak for the whole of Cambridgeshire, as the title I see on her email suggests.

“I have now spoken to Regional Organiser, Councillor Peter Reeve, who is going to sort all this out. “

Mrs Jardine said today: “My membership is being processed as we speak through another member Chris Pain as he is paying the membership fee for me.

“Alan Lay (a declared UKIP candidate for this month’s Fenland by election at Wisbech St Mary) has only just received his membership to and we actually discussed that last night as I was concerned I had not received it all through yet!”

She said her title “was appointed by Ken Perrin who took my UKIP membership form and passed it to the head office so not sure why they are upset”.

Mr Gulleford said later, in an email, that “there is a membership application for Ms Jardine in the pipeline but, at the time of writing, she is not a member.

“I spoke with head office today and they have no record of her membership.

“I am mystified as to the reason for her Party membership – £30- allegedly being paid for by someone from another region.

“The rest of us pay our own membership fees.”

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Greg_L-W..

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The odious style of management of Farage’s Party

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/03/2013

The odious style of management of Farage’s Party
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is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  

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The odious style of management of Farage’s Party driven by personal ambition for money!

Would you really want to see such values managing any part of these United Kingdoms even if only in support of another party

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it is interesting to note the timing of this article for release, supposedly on the front page of a National newspaper on International Women’s Day‘ bearing out the extreme anti women attitudes of Farage’s party as published by one of his two elected female MEPs and proven in Court by the other!
This  seems to be the tip of the iceberg when it comes to medi interest and from what I am hearing few journalists are finding any merit in the methods, unprofessionalism and lack of probity or transparency of UKIP’s behaviour.
Clearly UKIP lacks moral compass or the simplest of understanding of ethical behaviour as this and many other articles have shown just as have the numerous court verdicts and opinions stated against UKIP and its leaders!

The support given to racism, anti Judaism, anti homosexual, xenophobic and hate filled politics is undeniable and as one youngster pointed out from the audience of today’s BBC ‘Question Time’ UKIP is seen as playing on the fears of the vulnerable – leaving UKIP’s spokesman Diane James visibly flustered and red faced, though to be fair she came across as far more plausible and talented as both a spokesman and leader than any other spokesman put forward to date!

On past track record her days are numbered as with others who have outshone Farage and his personal income – Just think where UKIP might be now and just howmany seats it may well already have held if Farage had not fallen out with and set out to destroy one third of his elected MEPs and numerous elected NEC members!

Ukip leader Nigel Farage accused of making threats in bid to win funding

Two of the Eurosceptic party’s former MEPs claim they were put under pressure to break European Union rules

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Nigel Farage faces accusations from former Ukip MEPs. Photograph: Matt Cardy/Getty Images

Nigel Farage has been accused of putting pressure on two MEPs to break European rules as he sought to gain tens of thousands of pounds in taxpayers’ money for the UK Independence party.

Nikki Sinclaire, MEP for the West Midlands, told the Guardian the Ukip leader told her the party would not be able to gain access to extra funds meant for a new political grouping without her support.

If she failed to support the group, Farage said he would destroy her political reputation, she alleges. Sinclaire left Ukip in 2010 after clashing with the leadership.

A second MEP claims she was asked by Farage to secure an assistant for his 2010 general election campaign using money from Brussels, in breach of strict EU regulations. Marta Andreasen, who also left Ukip – joining the Conservatives last month – says Farage told her women of childbearing age should not work because they are “a burden to their companies”.

Friends of Farage said Sinclaire had been a “thorn in his side” for many years and had an axe to grind. A Ukip spokesman told the Guardian: “We do not respond to vexatious allegations of this kind from our political opponents.”

Andreasen and Farage have clashed publicly before – after she quit Ukip, the party leader said: “Having left the OECD, the European commission and Ukip in unpleasant circumstances, the Conservative party deserve what is coming to them. The woman is impossible.”

Farage and his party argue that the EU is a waste of money and call for Britain’s withdrawal. Over the last 10 years, Ukip has raised £6.2m, according to the Electoral Commission, with hundreds of thousands of pounds coming from its MEPs, whose salaries and expenses are met by European taxpayers.

Ukip ran the Lib Dems a close second last week in the Eastleigh byelection. All three main parties are now wrestling with how to respond to the rise of the Eurosceptic party, which is to field about 2,000 candidates in the May council elections.

Both accusers are the only female MEPs ever elected by Ukip and both left the party, claiming there is a sexist attitude at the top of the organisation.

Sinclaire, a close associate of Farage for 14 years, said she was “intimidated and bullied” by him as he sought to establish the European Freedom and Democracy group in the European parliament.

In July 2009, he had secured 29 MEPs from a number of countries to support the establishment of the group. Sinclaire alleges that he told her he needed a 30th MEP to ensure that he secured additional funds. When she replied that she was unsure because of homophobic and antisemitic comments by Italian politicians who were part of the grouping, he responded by threatening her, she said.

“He said to me that unless I signed up to this group by 10am the following morning then it would cost the party half a million pounds and it would be all my fault,” she said. “If I didn’t sign up, he said he would make sure that everyone knew it was my fault and damage my standing in the party.”

“There is no doubt in my mind that he was seeking these funds for the political party, not for the new group,” she said. “His main objective was to get the party to gain access to more money, and he was prepared to bully me to get it.”

EU sources said if a grouping increased the number of MEPs from 29 to 30, its funding would be increased by about €50,000. EU rules state money for groupings should not be used for party political purposes, but Sinclaire said the funds were supposed to be sent instead to Ukip and filtered through to London. Sinclaire eventually joined the group, but regretted doing so, she said. She left it in 2010 and is now an independent MEP.

Andreasen is an MEP for South East England and a former Ukip treasurer who defected to the Conservative party last month. She said Farage instructed her to recruit an assistant on the party’s publicly funded Brussels payroll, despite rules that MEPs’ assistants must work for at least part of their time on European parliament business.

“I had a specific situation where I was asked to recruit someone for the southeast region [where she and Farage are MEPs],” she said. “I realised he was only going to work on the general election in 2010 with Nigel Farage, who was standing in Buckingham.

“He [Farage] told me to draw up the contract for him and he would give me a staff member from the group in Brussels. He wanted me to recruit someone who would work in an office in the northern part of the south-east constituency, close to Buckingham.”

Andreasen said the contract would have been for an assistant earning around £40,000 a year pro-rata and they got as far as identifying the assistant Farage wanted, but she realised Farage was asking her to use an MEP’s allowance solely for his UK political campaigning. She said she decided it would have breached parliamentary regulations and declined.

EU rules state: “The provided allowances are only eligible when spent on activities and objects which are directly linked to the office of a member of the European parliament.”

A Ukip MEP has been found to have misused taxpayer-funded allowances following a crackdown by Olaf, Europe‘s anti-fraud watchdog. Derek Clark, an MEP for the East Midlands, had successfully applied for money from the EU to pay for two assistants in 2004 and 2005. But instead of working for Clark, the inquiry found they worked almost exclusively for Ukip from Britain.

Clark, who has given more than £190,000 to the party in the past 10 years, said last year that he began paying political workers with EU money only after being asked to do so by an adviser to the party, whom he refused to name.

Andreasen said Farage and others were “very dismissive and disrespectful” when discussing legislation that affects women.

“The general attitude was that we would never support anything that was in favour of women. He told me that his attitude was that women who are at the age of being able to give birth to children should not be employed because they are a burden to their companies. It is a very extreme position.

“He dismisses you as if you were not a proper interlocuter. He does not discuss with you, because you are a lower-level human being. I could not respond or be angry about each thing that would happen,” she said.

Sinclaire said Meanwhile Rupert Murdoch said that he had invited Farage to his London flat for dinner. The News International chairman told his followers on Twitter that Farage was “reflecting opinion” at the dinner. “Few days in UK, Italy. Politics both places very fluid, economies going nowhere. New leaders emerging on distant horizon,” he tweeted. “Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, few excellent, frustrated ministers. Farage reflecting opinion. Florence mayor Renzi brilliant young Italian.”

she had faced many years of sexism from the party. Ukip used to hold national executive meetings in men-only gentlemen’s clubs in central London such as the Caledonian Club. “I was allowed to attend the actual meeting but could not join the rest of the NEC in the bar, where the eventual decisions were actually made,” she added.

Additional reporting by Flora MacQueen

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This being the online article I am advised that it will be on the front page of the newspaper – The first of such articles as this seems to be only a small amount of the material which I know to have been gathered by this paper so far – the more damaging material would seem to be yet to come!

As I have repeatedly warned for many years supporters of UKIP should have done all they could to clean up UKIP and establish ethical behaviour and competent leadership with accountability, transparency and probity championing democracy by example or it would eventually fail as ‘the higher up the tree the monkey climbs the more you see its Rs …’
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Surrounding himself with Praise Singers Farage is blinded!

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Surrounding himself with Praise Singers Farage is blinded!
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Surrounding himself with Praise Singers Farage is blinded by the devotion he has bought!

Clearly UKIP are no longer fit for purpose as their caliber sinks yet further with the loss of ever5 more members of gravitas and ability where numbers are quoted as achievement when competence and quality are what might have won the day!

Always assuming that the aim is still to Leave-The-EU which is an ambition which becomes ever more obscure in UKIP’s present campaigning!

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reading around the blogosphere, which seems to give a far more in touch take on most aspects of the news, I was interested in the two postings shown beloe, which seemed to have a clear grasp on the political scene in Britain.
When you have read these you may also wish to track down the speech given by Andrew Marr in the EU parliament building one evening last week, wherein he explained the shift in policy and interest of The USA from Atlanticism to facing out across The Pacific and building new and stronger allies both in and on the rim of the Pacific.
Astonishingly much was made of the one sentence shoehorned into Obama’s recent ‘State of the Union’ speech dropping the crumb of comfort to old allies and outdated interests in EUrope with regard to more open borders for trade.

Does this make American policy increasingly Janus like – well clearly not as they have never denied their self interest and as America moves towards self sufficiency in oil with Mexico, US and Canada shortly to overtake the Middle East in oil production the relevance of their defence of the Straits of Hormuz and the gulf oil diminishes, as of course will its interest in propping up the rotting corpse of Zionism that has so befouled geo politics and the reputation of Judaism and the land of Palestine over modern recent history.

It is clear that America no longer sees Russia as the great enemy and it is clearly no rival in trade terms so why would America require EUrope as a buffer state any longer?

The world is moving and very clearly UKIP is little more than an irritating pimple in the gutter of EUropean politics, having lost sight of its ‘raison d’etre’ blinded by the personal ambitions and agendas of its unprofessional and self serving leadership clique and its claque of goffers & fools.

A decade of unfettered media hysteria – the demonisation of immigrants, Muslims and now benefit claimants, large families, the disabled, the sick, the poor – it has left the electorate blaming one another for the ills of society, for the consequences of this moral vacuum now permeating every mien, nook and cranny of our public and private lives. This administration’s modus operandi is that social reform is easiest ushered in under utter chaos, with fires to put out at every turn and where neighbour is turned against neighbour, the poor against the rich and religious orthodoxy against the LGBT lobby, in a twisted manipulation of the equalities brief.

It says much when the Rennard scandal and ensuing fiasco cannot further worsen the train wreck that the Lib Dems have become over the last two years. Broken promises, compromises on core values let alone policy and the fall of Huhne – a man who used to slam down papers onto the table as he went toe-to-toe against the PM in cabinet meetings – leaves the Lib Dems on the political equivalence of a palliative care pathway ahead of the next general election. 

We are, as things stand, facing a period of phenomenal change – a social engineering which places our society on the edge of a precipice. Beneath us lie the ruins of civilisations which have chosen self interest and injustice over the public good, iniquity and concentration of wealth and power over enlightenment and true democracy. Anger and outrage at Tory lead policies and social reforms need to calm, it is an anger that can easily return to bite us. We need to cut through the rhetoric, be cool headed and clear not only about where the left stands but also the about rise of the right. The far right is on the rise, let there be no mistake about it. In Germany, 9% of the country expresses right-wing extremist attitudes and xenophobic prejudice is expressed by 25% of the population. In Greece, we see Golden Dawn, Italy’s Northern League, Le Pen’s Front National, Wilders’ Freedom Party, Hungary’s Jobbik, the list goes on. Increasingly, people are speaking out but little is being done to stem the tide as they fill the vacuum created by the implosion of the left and liberal democratic parties.

 
 

And yet there seems to be an ostrich-like denial that this is, or could ever be the case in the UK. Like reporters in Iraq, we have become so ’embedded’ with the far right here, that we cannot see the wood for the trees. UKIP is tied with a number of European far right parties through the Europe of Freedom and Democracy (EFD) group.

Although UKIP walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, Farage has long denied ties with domestic far right movements. However, last year I was shown evidence of a secret meeting which took place between UKIP MEP Gerald Batten, the fundamentalist group Christian Concern for Our Nation, Islamophobic hate peddler Sam Solomon and via telephone, the leader of the English Defence League, Tommy Robinson.

The meeting was entitled “Dismantling Multiculturalism” and amongst the policy discussions was the attack on core institutions of British Muslim communities – organisations such as the Muslim Council of Britain and Quilliam Foundation. Batten’s scrawl also says (under green highlighter) “3) No Islamic Banking” and listed under number four “no halal, no kosher”. On the last page of his “Charter of Understanding” intended for Muslims, Batten has prepared an “affirmation” for Muslims to sign and return by post.

Chilling.

 
There are significant questions for both UKIP and Farage. As the Lib Dem’s wither on the vine and Labour searches for its soul, UKIP continues to drag Tory policy (not unwillingly) to the right. Cameron continues to court their voters through policy tweaks and with Marta Andreasen defecting, we see little divide between the parties. As shown in Eastleigh, there is no effective protest option in the British political landscape outside of UKIP. At the Rotherham by election Farage remarked to Newsnight 
 
“at the general election two and a half years ago, UKIP scored 3% of the vote… you’re looking at a very different party, a very confident party”. 
 

The far right is here. In our midst. And we see it not. Or worse still, we care not. If the left can get their act together quickly, the Horn of Gabriel need not yet be sounded. In this instance, hope needn’t prolong the torment of man. Epictetus asked us to leave our sons well instructed rather than rich, since the hopes of the instructed are better than the wealth of the ignorant. It’s advice we would do well to follow.

of interest as a supporter of UKIP who has seen the damage done by the unprofessional self interest of its leadership and its claque.
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The Higher Up The Tree UKIP Leadership Climb …

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The Higher Up The Tree UKIP Leadership Climb …
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The Higher Up The Tree UKIP Leadership Climb …!
IF UKIP refuses to ‘clean-up’ its act it has no future and no place in British politics, whaterver its cheap and dishonest populism may garner!

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as I have repeatedly said and published for several years as soon as UKIP shows any signs of any kind of significance they would be exposed for what they really are.Increasingly UKIP are being exposed as political lightweights and extremist of no ethical substance. A cult rather than a party controlled, managed and manipulated by one man, whose finger prints will never be found on any concrete evidence of corruption, dishonesty or extremism but with a claque of followers willing to be used and manipulated as his puppets to act for him to keep him on the gravy train!The amounts of money that have appeared to go ‘walk about’ are staggering the odd £1/4Million here and a further £1/4Million there and it soon adds up to £Millions – as Nigel Farage notoriously boasted to the ex Labour EU minister later shown to have defrauded the public purse himself, Farage boasted at a Press lunch that he had received around £2Million in expenses over and above his actual expenses in the EU.

That of course was no admission of involvement in the apparent £Millions that have seemingly gone missing fr4om EU funding and UKIP direct funds including via call centers.

Perhaps the information in the report, if a little hysterical somewhat untrustworthy and clearly pedantic, that follows the press article below will give the measure of the outrage some members feel at the corruption of UKIP by its leader4ship.However do consider the source, which was a thwarted individual who had great ambitions through UKIP and may well be embittered by his failure as a manipulator, in political terms, when measured against the likes of Nigel Farage!First consider the press report below which I can attest has involved a considerable amount of research so far and is ongoing not only by this paper but by other press journalists and in other media.

Similarly we know that UKIP and many of its remaining senior members are under investigation by OLAF and by areas of the British Police.Again I reiterate the belief that UKIP is at greatest danger of destruction by the exposure of its own corruption should it ever be considered of any real significance – hence the current interest follow its apparent success at Eastleigh, despite the fact that their performance was a mere 14% of the electorate’s vote shadowing the failure of politicians in gene4ral to be considered of much significance in Britain now we are so clearly subject of direct rule by The EU.You may feel the claim we are directly ruled by The EU is untrue or at best an exageration yet this very day the EU voted 26 to 1 against the direct financial interests of these United Kingdoms.

This is not a one off! You will of course be aware that on the pretext that British meat was infected with Foot and Mouth the EU market was largely closed to us yet imports continued from many countries where the disease was endemic and indeed it will be remembered that in France the disease was nicknamed ‘JCB disease’ as farmers killed their own cattle with symptoms and buried them whilst immediately sending any other cattle to slaughter!

Furtjher be minded that no aspirant politician in Britain has set out for election without stating that the CAP (Common Agricultural Policy) of The EC, EEC, Common Market, EU, call it what you will, was unfair, hugely costly and must be changed yet in 40 years no British Government nor minister had managed to change a single detail nor a phrase or comma!

Why one may ask would one wish to be a member of an organisation that not only costs some £50Million a day but clearly acted against one’s National intertests and it is a valid question that increasingly politicians will not answer with integrity or honesty and the electorate are now by a majority seeking to Leave-The-EU yet with 60%+ of Conservative voters wanting a fair and honest Referendum, which David Cameron has now for the second time claimed he will hold to appease his members yet UKIP have so lost sight of their ‘Raison d’être‘ that they can only garner 14% of the electorate in their best ever domestic by election!Consider my oft stated truth, when thinking of UKIP and its leadership, ‘The higher up the tree the monkey climbs the more you see its Rs’, increasingly you will note the media pointing this out, example after example!

Special Report: What voters should know about Ukip

Is there more to the party than an obsession with immigration and getting Britain out of the European Union?
 

Sunday 03 March 2013

Suddenly, the UK Independence Party is the wild card of British politics. It left the Conservative Party bruised and traumatised by beating it in the Eastleigh by-election. It is tipped to win a large share of the vote in next year’s European elections, may well cost David Cameron’s party victory at the next general election, and is the force whose electoral magnetism many say will pull the Tories ever rightward. It is also the party – its programme and personalities – that has so far escaped scrutiny. Until now.

If Ukip had a name that truly reflected its priorities, it might be called the UK Immigrationphobe Party. Ostensibly the anti-EU party, an obsession with immigration and exit from Europe as a means to close Britain’s doors is its prevailing motive. The word immigration runs through its policy statements like red lettering in seaside rock, and its proposed five-year ban on entries to the UK is the message it rams home on every doorstep.

That is far from all. It is deeply sceptical of global warming, wants to abolish inheritance tax, employers’ National Insurance contributions, aims to partially reverse the recent hunting and smoking bans, and would increase defence spending by some 40 per cent. It is, in thought if not yet in personnel, the extreme right-wing of the Conservative Party in exile; a party run in the main by self-made businessmen with an agenda to match. And it has a record of defections, internecine squabbles and acrimony, plus scandals that have led two of its former MEPs to jail.

Founded in 1991 as the Anti-Federalist League by Dr Alan Sked of the London School of Economics (it became Ukip two years later), it has had, in the past 20 years, no fewer than eight leaders. And the upper reaches of its 22,000 members are fed – and depleted – at regular intervals by defectors coming in and going out, among them its founder. Two of the people elected as Ukip MEPs have since defected to the Conservative Party, and Nikki Sinclaire, elected a Ukip MEP in 2009, was expelled from Ukip for refusing to be part of the right-wing Europe of Freedom and Democracy grouping in the European Parliament.

On the other side of the account, two of its three peers sitting in the Lords were defections from the Conservative Party; its one Member of the Legislative Assembly in Northern Ireland is David McNarry, who was expelled from the Ulster Unionists; and the only person ever to represent the party in the Commons was Robert Spink, who defected from the Conservatives in 2008.

All these comings and goings mean its headquarters must at times resemble a tourist hotel at the height of the season. The party is, in fact, run out of an office on a business park in Newton Abbot, Devon. Its latest available accounts, for 2011, reveal it has 12 employees, made up of four party officers and eight administrative staff – four fewer than in the previous year. The Ukip leadership has managed to turn around an £18,000 deficit and posted a profit of almost £100,000.

Its MEPs have been criticised for a less-than-stellar attendance record at the European Parliament. The latest data from Votewatch.eu says that Nigel Farage’s attendance in plenary has been 141 days out of 196, placing him 708 out of 754 MEPs, and his deputy Paul Nuttall managed 123 days out of 195, ranking him 742nd. More embarrassing for the party was the jailing of two of its former MEPs. In 2007, Ashley Mote, who represented South-east England, was jailed on 21 counts of benefit fraud, totalling £65,000. In 2009, Tom Wise, former MEP for East of England, was jailed for two years after falsely claiming thousands in expenses.

Mr Farage has carved out a niche for himself as a political maverick who, with a nice line in good humour, plays well on Question Time. Insiders, however, say he is somewhat shy when it comes to detail. One former Ukip member said the party had attempted to put together a co-ordinated policy platform before the last election with 18 separate policy groups charged with contributing to the Ukip manifesto. But he added: “The whole thing was eventually binned. The Ukip leadership doesn’t seem to be interested in details; it’s a very successful single-issue pressure group. Nigel was very uncomfortable with a manifesto which stated that ‘A Ukip government would do this or that’.”

Marta Andreasen, the former Ukip MEP who joined the Conservatives during the Eastleigh by-election campaign, said the party was, in effect, a pressure group. “Ukip says it has policies on things other than Europe, but none of them have been properly costed. It is very easy to use immigration as a threat to the population of this country, because people are losing their jobs and the welfare state is being reduced. I agree that there should be proper controls on immigration, but Ukip’s position on this – warning that millions of Bulgarians and Romanians would come to this country – was one of the things that contributed to my leaving the party. We were coming too close to the BNP. We were on the margins of the racists.”

To the accusations that his party is covertly racist, Mr Farage highlights the fact that the Ukip candidate in the Croydon North by-election was the Jamaican-born former boxer Winston McKenzie. However, Mr McKenzie provoked protests when he claimed that allowing gay couples to adopt was “unhealthy”.

Ukip’s deputy leader, Paul Nuttall, uses his blog to vent his spleen against political correctness. In one post, he supported the Bristol hoteliers who faced court action after refusing to let a gay couple sleep in the same bed, and the football pundits Andy Gray and Richard Keys, sacked by Sky over their “sexist” remarks about a female referee’s assistant. He wrote: “Firstly, Christian hoteliers Peter and Rosemary Bull lost a court case in Bristol, which was brought by two homosexual men who took exception because the couple refused to allow them to sleep in the same bed. What a complete joke. Aren’t people allowed to live by their religious beliefs in the country any more? … Gray was partaking in something we call ‘banter’ in football circles … It’s not as if he said it live on air, but, then again, so what if he had?”

A Ukip spokesman denied the party was obsessed with migration and insisted that it had a policy platform which “reflected all the real concerns of the British people”. He added: “We have policies on the economy, public services, Europe … everything. During the Eastleigh campaign, we expected to talk a lot about Europe, but when we knocked on doors people wanted to ask about immigration. Other people have analysed the election since and said immigration was the main concern of 55 per cent of the people who voted, so we were very much in touch with the people of that area. Ukip, of course, repudiates all types of racism and sectarianism. BNP former members are barred from joining Ukip.”

Additional reporting by Jemma Crew and Katie Grant

Ukip policies

Lower taxes

“Abolish the tax on work – employers’ National Insurance [NI].” This would lose around £50bn a year in revenue, at a stroke, reversing all progress in cutting the deficit since 2010.

“Take 4.5 million of low incomes out of tax with a simple, flat rate income tax … Merge 20 per cent basic income tax with 11 per cent NI to create a 31 per cent flat tax on all earned incomes over £11,500.” This would create another vast hole in public finances, and mean tax cuts for all higher-rate taxpayers.

“Ukip have a long-standing policy to abolish inheritance tax.” This would cost about £3bn a year.

“Global warming is not proven – wind power is futile. Scrap all green taxes, wind-turbine subsidies, adopt nuclear power to free us from dependence on fossil fuels and foreign oil and gas.”

“Cut taxes on small businesses.” Unspecified.

Lower public spending

“Public spending is increasing and the coalition’s cuts do not scratch the surface of Labour’s deficit. We must cut down government if we are to return to a sound economy.”

Quangos: “Bring them under Parliament’s control and cut the cost substantially”. No definition of “substantial”.

“Make real and rigorous cuts in foreign aid.” The aid budget is about £10bn a year.

“By leaving the EU we save over £45m a day plus £60bn a year due to EU trade barriers, business regulation, waste, fraud.” £60bn a year is equivalent to the annual spending of the entire Education Department.

Higher public spending

“Spend an extra 40 per cent on defence annually.” A cost of £19bn pa.

“Double prison places to enforce zero tolerance on crime.” Cost about £4bn pa.

“Roll all state pensions and benefits into a simple, substantial citizen’s pension.” Uncosted.

Restore student grants, but abandon target of 50 per cent of young people going to university. Uncosted.

A better yesterday

“Only by leaving the EU can we regain control of our borders.”

“Life must mean life.”

“Our traditional values have been undermined. Children are taught to be ashamed of our past. Multiculturalism has split our society. Political correctness is stifling free speech.”

“Support grammar schools.”

“End the ban on smoking in allocated rooms in public houses, clubs and hotels.”

“Hold county-wide referenda on the hunting ban.”

John Rentoul

Sources: ‘What We Stand For, A Ukip Statement of Principles’, 28 November 2011, and other documents on the Ukip website

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As promised, in the preamble to the article above you may find this published article from a UKIP public forum that follows and ask yourself if it was only 25% accurate surely this would so far see more than 2 UKIP MEPs sentenced to prison!

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The 2005 Parliamentary Election for the constituency of Louth and Horncastle where Chris Pain represented UKIP, received two cheques to the value of £500 each, the said UKIP branch were only entitled to one cheque of £500 from the East Midlands Committee A second cheque was issued at the request of Chris Pain who was not an elected member of the UKIP East Midlands Committee at the time,claiming the first cheque had not been received.

As a result of this it was assumed the cheque had been lost in the post, a replacement cheque was issued. Our long serving treasurer came to the next meeting and reported that the first cheque had been presented for payment at the bank within days of being issued. The second cheque posted directly to Chris was also presented for payment despite requests from our treasurer and the RO for the cheque to be returned. The £500 was never returned despite repeated requests,.

Mr Pain an NEC member supported and recommended by the ‘Junius’ team has indicated that thr Regional Organiser ( Press Secretary, or whatever legal designation now satisfies O.L.A.F. ) Mr Donald Ransome, is to return from a holiday on Thursday and produce a report on matters. Excellant.

Cyprus is loverly at this time of year I am told, but this report may be less than sunny.He must indeed recall those words from Exodus, not to bare false witness.

A copy of this report must then be forwarded to Detective Inspector Postins of Birmingham, West Midlands Police. Failure to do just that may raise more than eyebrows, as we saw in Nottingham with a police raid, arrest and heavy questioning. More of that later though.

Mr Ransome needs to ascertain from Mr Pain, who; exactly are the ‘Junius’ team. ?

Does Mr Pain control ‘Junius’ or vica versa ?

Has Mr Pain, over the years transgressed NEC election rules by having a world wide web site promote his cause ?

How have other candidates coped with this matter, were they given similar and equal treatment ?

Has any form of favouritism occurred here with Mr Pain having internet endorsements ?

Mr Pain denegrates people including in writing, perhaps using a computer system. Some of it came to the fore only last week. There is, sadly; more.

Given Mr Pain’s denegration of others, that may have caused much upset ( Mr Clark I am told has been much hurt by ‘Junius’ cartoons of him that appear to match descriptions of him written by Mr Pain ) , has Mr Pain’s computer been criminally interferred with in order to see just what exactly is going on ( as has mine, and others too) albeit for entirely different reasons in my case including perhaps attempting to pervert the course of justice and witness intimidation ) .

Has his computer been hacked or entered in any way. I can with pleasure assist Mr Pain with this matter, and partly this is why he needs to take his computer to West Midlands Police and the live police enquiry into matters UKIP various and any intellegence that he or ‘Junius’ may possess .

Michael McGough, his senior NEC colleague urged just that of all and sundry upon this very forum.

The report by Mr Ransome must follow a natural path, chronologically.

Assisting with the Trimdon by-election with Mr Ransome during a very long day , I brought to his attention as the correct officer for members to turn to and in the proper civilised way; financial matters that were causing great concern to members, including:

The Ashford Call Centre raised money, Ashford Employment Ltd. and matters pertaining to legal requirements and the banking of our donated money.

UIKIP Wine World and the aparent disappearence of all of our money. The lack of HMRC VAT compliance. Failure of any documentation with evidently imported wine from The Lebanon being sold at UKIP events, having destroyed the proper and legal UKIP Wine World approved by the NEC.

Up to six years of national prize draws, perhaps 13 in total where monies appear not to be banked within the UKIP national accounts .

The draws under the Lotteries Acts were illegal, no licence, indeed evidently previously a legal status cancelled in favour of an illegal one.

The odd useage of a private business address in London for receipt of our monies and tickets, where indeed Mrs Kirston Farage had worked. The Birmingham H.Q. should have been used and that city council for legal registration.

Subsequently, Mr Ransome at an EMCC meeting questioned me quite specifically about the Ashford Call Centre. Details of dates when approaches were made for money, amounts donated and questions around these matters.

it must be remembered that his employer, Mr Clark MEP was indeed the national party secretary during those very generous and prosperous times and with concern expressed thus Mr Clark may have had concerns too ?

Mr Ransome does have that detail as requested by him.

Further Mr Ransome, within that report should list for Mr Stuart Wheeler the treasurer, ( and of course the police) areas that require external audit with an opportunity for one and all to question figures as provided.

This will include:

Ramsgate Call Centre.

Ashford Call Centre / Ashford Employment Ltd.

Preston Call Centre.

Around 13 national prize draws under the Lotteries Act unregistered anywhere in Britain, and the use of a private business address in an unrelated city to H.Q. where money was sent.

UKIP Wine World and all HMRC documents.

The use of a Bath council flat for receipt of monies.

£ 211,000 appearing to disappear from a set of regional accounts as ” other costs”

£ 250,000 obtained for a street collection of names and addresses when only an A4 sheet of paper was provided for that money and he ( Mr Ransome) told us to go away and photocopy it.

£ 11,000 destined for The Metric Martyers of Sunderland appears to disappear. Where is it ?

All movements of IDG group money.
Is that 10 MEP’s x E 50,000 per annum x 5 years ? A vast sum of money.

All movements of E.F.D. group money .
Is that 12 MEP’s x E 50,000 per annum x 5 years

Expanations about the Ohio account.

Explanations about something that may be called the 4000 account ?

These are some of the areas for Mr Ransome to concern himself with, we may provide a few more however.

Mr Ransome , within this report must also include the following:
I resigned with great sadness from the NEC quite specifically due to frauds, including as reported .I had honestly attempted to do something to protect us but the support was not available.

I was treated very badly at that last meeting, raving, shouting swareing abuse as others just bowed their heads to the table in shame.It was reported to Bedfordshire police by someone, not me though.

I thought that was the end of the matter, I just wanted to get on with branch and regional work, .

Subsequenty, a lot of nasty things happened, including:
A person identified to me by Northampton Borough Council using a mobile telephone rang them and attempted to drive me off the MEP lists that I was legally a part of .Nasty lies and defamation was used against me.

My then just widowed mother was traced ( different telephone district to me) and two frightening calls made about me intending to intimidate her and thus me by implication.

The Inland Revenue were missled about me costing all money.

( Richard ‘Ski’ experienced similar but far worse in that context)

I begin to hear verbal statements of very nasty things indeed about me.

I was isolated for standing up to fraud and questioning the evident disappearence of our money.

The News of the World paper was fed a lot of information about me and Sophy Ridge telephoned me about matters pertaining to a former police officer and UKIP MEP Tom Wise. I politely send them away.

Donald Ransome, who sometimes calls himself the Regional Organiser spammed my computer, costing me money to effect a repair.

Donald Ransome spammed my computer to total destruction using some device , such that it crashed, and mechanics were unable to access anything from it.Physical evidence is held by the police, and myself too.

I had to buy another system.

The entire contents of my computer was evidently taken to be replaced by ‘Spam’ from Mr Ransome, this included a valuable and saleable asset, namely my Bedfordshire police statement concerning Mr Tom Wise MEP and our UKIP Wine World money.

Donald Ransome at my last EMCC spent 1 hour and twenty minutes abusing me, shouting threats. I was not intimidated.

At that meeting I held up numerous examples of unlawful prize draws and questioned about the whereabouts of our money.

At that meeting I held up bank statements from Ashford Call Centre that showed quite huge money movements in and out. I was specific about £ sums.

At that meeting I raised UKIP wine world with certain documentation shown.

He, Mr Ransome three times threatened to take me outside and evidently beat me up.

Mr Ransome made an evident death threat intent to me. All of course witnessed.

I never raised my voice, I never used a wrong word.I was always calm and restrained.

Mrs Ransome, known as Sue; threatened to sue me. So, with Sue to sue and Donald to beat me up three times perhaps prior to even worse I was with others thrown off the committeee by the new chairman Mr Clark who appeared to seize the chair from the properly elected officer Mr Baker.

Two members dared to ask of Sue ( to sue remember) why she needed to take her shouting and raving and stabbing off at an odd tangent. Something appeared to worry her greatly.

Meanwhile no answers have ever been provided to very simple legitimate questions about our money, as given. Odd.

Then officers of the party attempt a reconciliation of our national accounts. Bank statements showing perhaps up to 95% of our money movements as explained converted into cash I am assurred appears to leave the party coffers.

I write all without prejudice and as explained.

Considerable work is carried out upon H.Q. site Birmingham thence elsewhere. The work is properly filed and documented. Certain bank statements were specifically denied however. Originals ( not copies, but the originals) were carefully stored within an unused office.

Following me being driven off the EMCC with nastiness, Mr Geoffrey Kingscott a former party secretary is treated to a similar action. Someone has explained to me that his abuse as received was worse than mine, but I was history by then and merely an object of derision.

A mild mannered man only interested in the well being of the party and members, Mr Kingscott never returns.

The the 15 year serving East Midlands treasurer always re-elected has a police raid upon his home and from around 0800-1800 questioned aggressivly and literally terrified by lies that had been fed to a charity, ‘Crimestoppers’ about him that caused a police raid with 8/9 officers and a battering-ram device. The stories are a slander.
His health was broken by that incident.Literally terrified by what was going on his mental/pschological state was damaged by the experience.
He had discovered much.

Mr Ransome’s report will of course recall the then national treasurer Mr Smith and his e-mails during the Electoral Commissioners case that appeared to request forms of misleading the authorities as to what was going on in certain contexts.

The report will explain how Mr Derek Clark MEP was always evidently able to deny any E.U. fraud office involvement with his affairs. Reports of false accounting and moneylaunding evidently untrue.

Mr Ransome needs to discuss any destruction of paperwork and computers if it ever happened.
Who was involved destroying the Nottingham office contents ( if it occurred).
Why would people do that ?
Were any originals or copies of attempts to reconcile our national accounts found there during the frenzy and destroyed, or taken to places from where they were hidden ?

Why were the failed attempts not given to the authorities and an investigation requested, in order to protect volunteer members. ?

As Mr Pain writes, ” Nigel is already watching me very carefully and it would stop me from trying to reform the party “
Mr Ransome needs to articulate those reforms as described by his regional chairman and NEC member, that hopefully take account of the above and perhaps even more.
” some great mileage her for Junius” writes Mr Pain over another of his wheezes.

Well before ‘Junius’ and Mr Pain go public, perhaps they will assist Mr Ransome with his report and deliver it to West Midlands police ( along with Mr Pain’s computers) where a live investigation has consumed resources for over one year now.
Volunteer members who were so very kind and generous deserve just that.

Finally , may I congratulate all of the decent volunteers with their recent Eastleigh by-election result, ( this following Corby and Rotheram) .They are a credit to the British Eurosceptic movement.

May I add a caveat! Whatever Ian Gillman may claim I have every reason to believe that Chris Pin hasn’t a clue nor any valid provenance as to who may be on The Junius Team and thus clearly has absolutely no influence over them or personal input to their articles or comments.You may safely be aware that several of the points Gillman attributes to Pain and a contact with Team Junius have been items supplied by myself to the team having garnered the information from third party verifiable sources almost all of whom are in The EU.

As with the simple fact that Chris Pain’s managing to get himself onto UKIP NEC has led to a great deal of annoyance on the part of Nigel Farage – seemingly just as he was determined to strangle the nascent aims of transparency, probity and openness of an accountable leadership represented by Dr. David Abbott, Dr. Eric Edmond and others as with Richard Suchorzewski and others previously.

It is also worth noting that of his own admission Ian Gillman is not very computer literate and has had detailed discussion with me in tyhe past regarding computer protection and clearly claimed he had no recognised computer anti virus system.

Frankly the degree of professionalism of the attacks on his computer, had he had even the simplest form of virus protection, way exceeds the importance of anything that might ever have been on his computer and never, in all his dramatic accusations has he EVER identified anything of consequence on his computer worthy of the efforts of professional standard hacking with or without anti virus.

Ask yourself what gain would ANYONE derive from hacking Gillman’s computer? He clearly has failed to convince me and others of any motivation anyone might have beyond seeking to possibly irritate him!

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& Yet UKIP Still Tries To Claim It is NOT Racist or Xenophobic!

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& Yet UKIP Still Tries To Claim It is NOT Racist or Xenophobic!
Clear4ly members & members of its leadership are not just anto homosexual as proven in the courts but are very clearly xenophobic & support Racism, Violence, Criminality & anti Judaism!!

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one need only read the apparent incitement to race hate based on supertition as published and distributed by Gerard Batten to realise there are aspects of racism and xenophobia that go right to the top in UKIP.

Time after time it is made clear that UKIP members at all levels are racist, xenophobic, anti homosexual and in many ways the failed of other parties who have come together out of greed, self interest and inadequacy to collectively promote their inadequacies, fears and hatred in the manner of introspective nationalists.

UKIP make much of bragging of patriotism when clearly they have as little understanding of the meaning of the word as they have of the aims and principles of Libertarianism.

Let us not forget the fact that UKIP leader Nigel Farage derives a substantial part of the bribes he gets from the EU from leading and having taken UKIP into the Pan EU EFD Group he founded – the sweepings of the gutter politics of EUrope beset with hatred, racism, criminality, anti homosexuality, anti Judaism and even going as far as to support many of the aims of Anders Brevik the cowardly mass murderer from Norway.

Yet again we see the ugly side of this collective of cranks and gadflies who so desperately try to stuff the truth of their core beliefs in the closet!

UKIP has desperately come off the rails in pandering to the populism of the lowest common denominator in persuit of its ambitions and self enrichment – doing great harm to the EUroSceptic aims of the majority in Britain who seemingly, in poll after poll, wish to Leave-The-EU.

Ukip Bristol Chairman Phillip Collins Insists ‘Put All Illegal Immigrants In Holding Centres’

Posted: 04/03/2013 11:29 GMT  |  Updated: 04/03/2013 12:16 GMT

 
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The chairman of Ukip in Bristol has backed controversial removal centres for illegal immigrants saying there should be “one in every town.” He also appeared to suggest that those entering the country illegally should be sent to prison.

Phillip Collins stressed that holding centres should not be the same as prisons, but added: “If they were to go to prison, really I would say a six month prison term for coming over here, using our facilities and using our services would be right for breaking the law.”

Speaking to the Huffington Post UK he said families should be broken up if one member is here illegally and other members aren’t.

He said: “They would be treated humanely and fairly and properly but would not be allowed into the wider community. If one member of a family is illegal and the others aren’t well, the illegal one would have to be put into the holding community. If the mother is illegal and the father is not, they should be separated.

“If they are ill then they can go to hospital but they should be escorted to hospital like prisoners. They should be held in the holding centre until they find papers for them. At the moment the police let them go but then they disappear and then they stay here forever.

“These holding centres would be like prisons with unlocked doors, then after they’ve all been used and we’ve got rid of all the immigrants then we could turn them into actual prisons.

Collins made the comments after an interview with VICE in which he insisted all Eastern European immigrants should leave the UK, and that this country, “within three or four generations will be a Muslim country.”

He told the magazine “Unless we do something about it, we’ll be the ones on the street begging for change.”

He also told their reporter that there should be two or three holding centres in every city.

Collins said these were his personal views are not the views of Ukip. “I’m not sure what official Ukip policy is,” he told the Huffington Post UK.

“There are two million illegal immigrants in the UK and there should be as many holding centres as necessary to keep all of them in,” he added.

“It sounds like a lot of money up front but it would create jobs. There are as many as two million illegal immigrants using all our services and facilities. “

Britain’s prison population stands at 84,000 with a maximum capacity of 88,000. The last formal study of irregular (illegal) immigrants in 2007 put the number between 417,000 and 863,000, according to the migration observatory.

Currently the UK has 12 immigration removal centres, with a capacity of 4055, which exist to house foreign nationals awaiting decisions on their asylum claims or awaiting deportation following a failed application. Of the twelve centres, half are devoted to purely male detainees.

The removal centres have proved controversial since their inception with opponents saying it is wrong to imprison people who are fleeing persecution and who have committed no crime.

A spokesperson for Migrants’ Rights Network told the Huffington Post UK there were significant problems with removal centres as “there’s no limitation for how long people can be held.”

“It’s a huge human rights and personal liberty issue. Individuals can spend years in detention while the UK Border Agency tries to remove them.”

Detention Action, which supports and campaigns with people held in detention centres, told the Huffington Post UK Collins was guilty of “wild exaggerations” about migration.

Campaigner Kate Blagojevic told the Huffington Post UK “There are a lot of myths and misinformation peddled about migration in the UK and Phillip Collins is repeating them word for word plus a few wild exaggerations, for example, saying that there are 2 million people are living in the UK without documentation is simply a lie.

“However, worryingly a lot of his suggestions are already in practice – people are escorted and handcuffed in hospitals; families are already broken up; and people are already held in prison like centres for months or even years.”

She said the current removal centres are “expensive, unnecessary and unfair,” saying that to hold someone for one day costs around £120 and added “people who are held for a year are more likely to be released than removed.”

Countering Collins’ claims she said: “We are one of the countries in Europe that detains people without any time limit and detain people as soon as they claim asylum.

“I speak to people daily in pubs and restaurants as well – they think that the UK had a duty to protect people who a seeking safely; to uphold a tradition of welcoming refugees; who believe that families should not be ripped apart; who believe that children shouldn’t grow up without parents; who believe that the UK should have an immigration system based on fairness not force.”

Detention Centre Rules insist that safety and security is to be maintained but “with no more restriction than is required for safe custody and well ordered community life.”

However there have been a number of disturbances at centres, shining a spotlight on the controversial practice.

At Morton Hall in Lincolnshire, three prisoners threatened to commit suicide in the past year, there have been riots and a group of 18 asylum seekers from Afghanistan going on hunger strike.

A Nigerian man scaled the roof in protest over his prolonged detention in August, while one Palestinian and one Malaysian protested at the the ‘disrespectful’ and ‘inhumane’ treatment at the hands of the guards. Allegations of racism and violence were also made by one anonymous whistleblower.

“The problem we have is these people feel they are treated like criminals when their crimes are simply fleeing their own country for whatever reason,” Iman Sajid from the Joint Council for the Welfare of Immigrants said at the time.

Additionally, detainees at a Dover immigration removal centre who claimed they had been tortured were treated dismissively, prisons inspectors said in August.

In February an 84-year-old Canadian man died after becoming ill at an immigration removal centre near Heathrow airport. The Guardian reported that Alois Dvorzac was “extremely distressed” the day he was rushed to hospital with chest pains.

morton hall in lincolnshire

Morton Hall in LincolnshireUkip MEP Gerard Batten said Collins,’ idea was “superficially attractive” but impractical. In a statement to the Huffington Post UK he said: “We would expect all illegal immigrants to register as such with the authorities, in an advertised time period.

“If they do not, and the authorities become aware of their presence, then they open themselves to automatic deportation, as illegal immigrants.”

“It may be superficially attractive to think that all illegals should be processed though these centres, but given that there are only 4000 places in them when there are anything up to 1 million illegal immigrants in the country, it is neither humane nor practical to do so”.

gerard batten has been to UKIP's taylor for his comic act clothes!

Gerard Batten, in pink, said the idea was superficially attractive but not practicalUkip was accused by David Cameron of being a party of “fruit cakes and loonies and closet racists” in 2006, a description that has cast a shadow over the party ever since, despite fervent denials by Ukip.

However the founder and former leader of Ukip, Professor Alan Sked, says the party he launched in 1993 has become “extraordinarily right-wing” and is now devoted to “creating a fuss, via Islam and immigrants.” He told the Huffington Post UK in November “They’re not an intellectually serious party. Their views on immigrants and on [banning] the burqa are morally dodgy.”

However Collins says he represents the views of the majority, saying: “I speak to people daily in pubs and restaurants and on the street and all the British people feel this way. The other EU countries don’t abide by these rules, we’re the only country stupid enough to do this . There are A LOT of people who feel this way, the vast majority. The British people are being taken the p**s out of. “

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Media Reality re UKIP Result in Eastleigh!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/03/2013

Media Reality re UKIP Result in Eastleigh!

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Media Reality re UKIP Result in Eastleigh!
Rod Liddle comments on the general outcome of the by-election in The Spectator!!

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Will UKIP ever win?

2 March 2013 10:55
UKIP leader Nigel Farage and local candidate Diane James laugh as they celebrate their result in coming second in the Eastleigh by-election. (Photo by Matt Cardy/Getty Images)UKIP leader Nigel Farage and local candidate Diane James laugh as they celebrate their result in coming second in the Eastleigh by-election. (Photo by Matt Cardy/Getty Images)

A couple of reflections upon Eastleigh. Firstly it was indeed an appalling night for Labour; midterm the party came second in this constituency in the early 90s. It received the votes a joke candidate might expect this time around. Maybe that’s because they put a comedian in the seat. I have no objection to John O’Farrell’s writing at all; but maybe one reason for Labour’s failure – and probably not the most important – was his candidature. He is the sort of thing London Labour loves; metropolitan, cool, ever so witty. Ever so PC. Does any of that play outside the M25? I don’t think so. And the result would suggest I’m right. Ed needs to grasp the hand of Maurice Glasman a little more tightly.

Second; the Rennard stuff was of absolutely no consequence, was it? It did not play. Nobody cared. I suspect that beyond the M25 most people think the whole business is an absurdity and a staggering irrelevance. Women as well as men.

Thirdly – as a caveat to the press hailing UKIP’s success (and of course they did very well). Will they ever actually win? This was the time, and the place. As Primo Levi once said; if not now, when? They are still a conduit for the pissed off protest voters; it is to Farage’s credit that these people are now drawn from all three major parties, rather than just the Tories. But can they ever be more than that?

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To which you will notice I felt compelled to point out the following facts:

Hi,

you will also have noticed UKIP’s victory was a resounding achievement if you subtract all the votes of those who did not vote for them.

However you overlook the fact that the outright winners were those who voted for pro EU parties showing just what a resounding failure UKIP actually was, having failed to be linked with their core, and only consequential, message with a mere 14% of the vote at a time when the public at large, by a majority, oppose membership of The EU and amongst Tory members alone over 60% demand a Referendum in which they intend to vote to Leave-The-EU.

The spectacular failure of UKIP to capitalise on this shows just how apposite was the comment ‘if they can’t get elected now what real chance of ever being elected do they have …?’

If only they could find competent and professional leadership and the trust of the people! Sadly unlikely in their present form!

 

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The EASTLEIGH By-Election Results & Thoughts

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/03/2013

The EASTLEIGH By-Election Results & Thoughts
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The EASTLEIGH By-Election Results & Thoughts, Particularly on the UKIP Protest Vote!!

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Having had better things to do today and having listened in detail to election details until 03:00hrs. as the results came in and subsequently there was little of note to post beyond the facts I posted contemporaneously with the election results as follows in reverse time order:

  1. But only the gullible & the ill informed believed David Cameron’s idiotic comments about repatriation & renegotiation http://soc.li/qDzi3J
    View summary

  2. REDACTED AS NOT RELEVANT TO THE EASTLEIGH BY-ELECTION

  3. REDACTED AS NOT RELEVANT TO THE EASTLEIGH BY-ELECTION
  4. REDACTED AS NOT RELEVANT TO THE EASTLEIGH BY-ELECTION

  5. @politicalhackuk With schools, Hospitals & much more sold off to Private landlords & Public Finances scammed by Labour sadly borrowing rises
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  6. #ukip MEP Godfrey bloom failed to turn up at #eu committee meeting when financial transaction tax passed by one vote! #bbccqt

  7. For kids watching #bbcqt that are too young to remember cash-for-questions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash-for-questions_affair … Hamilton charged £2k per parli. question

  8. @CorshamResident @IssyTweets @NSinclaireMEP Bright as Niel Hamilton may be his lack of integrity & association with sleaze undermine UKIP
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  9. @chrisshipitv @DPJHodges I do not agree based on track record. Diane James was new, an Independent & distanced from UKIP sleaze & corruption
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  10. @FreebornTrukip @wiffen I appreciate exposing the facts and clear proven truth is rarely popular to those on the make!
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  11. @wiffen Clearly UKIP FAILED to get the message of Leave-The-EU across as their message in Eastleigh but acted as dustbin for protest voters.
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  12. Tories gagged their EUroSceptic candidate in Eastleigh & no one believes they will deliver a fair Leave-The-EU Referendum losing votes!
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  13. REDACTED AS NOT RELEVANT TO THE EASTLEIGH BY-ELECTION

  14. @TheEconomist The Tories have failed to explain the desperate need for greater cuts to survive but Moodies made it clear in rating report!
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  15. Tory vote v. poor but not wipe out (mid term protest) Labour however was disastrous & extrapolated would loose a GE badly.
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  16. LibDim winner in Eastleigh with a collapse of 14% of the vote & 17% turnout with 19% swing vote not to Leave-The-EU UKIP but protest dustbin
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  17. Eastleigh clearly shows Tories failed to convince they will hold a fair referendum & Leave-The-EU & failed to convince they need bigger cuts
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  18. Eastleigh 52% t/o LibDim 13,342 – UKIP 11,571 – Tory 10,559 – Lab 4,088 thus as I predicted UKIP gained the protest dustbin vote not values
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  19. UKIP clearly failed to get the message of Leave-The-EU across to the electorate in Eastleigh merely using immigration protest fear tactics!
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  20. Eastleigh turnout down by 19% as I predicted UKIP miss out on postal vote even as the protest dustbin vote & get very few votes for policies
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  21. Eastleigh UKIP gain a notable share of protest vote but fail to win based on the postal vote as I predicted. Few votes are for UKIP values!
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UK politics: a wasteland of democracy

Friday 1 March 2013

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The media are glibly talking of the “humiliation” variously of David Cameron (Independent) and the Conservatives (Telegraph), completely unconscious of the fact that the by-election result represented a humiliating defeat for the political class as a whole.

As Your Freedom and Ours points out, people are not turning out to vote for any of the candidates in any numbers. But, when the lead candidate goes to Westminster on the back of 17 percent of the electorate – not even one in five of the voters – that represents a crashing failure of the political class to take the people with them.

But then, when we see Clegg stand alongside the new MP and proclaim “we overcame the odds”, while The Times talks of a “stunning” victory, the nature of the problem becomes apparent.

The great divide then yawns into a chasm when Lib-Dem party president, Tim Farron, claims: “This is a staggering result … it will be a turning point in this parliament and that we are in a position to win this seat completely changes the narrative of the parliament”.

And while the voters delivered a majority of 1,771 for the Lib-Dems, it is interesting to note that aside from the Lib-Lab-Con-UK matrix, there were ten other parties in the field, including the Monster Raving Loony Party, which collectively polled 2,056 votes.

Farage talks glibly about the Conservatives “splitting the UKIP vote”, and also hails UKIP’s “strong showing” as a sign of “revulsion” at the three main parties across Britain. But there were over two thousand voters who thought more of the likes of the Beer, Baccy and Crumpet Party than they did of his offer. Those votes were sufficient to deprive his candidate of a seat in Parliament.

What is thus very, very clear from this result is that the politicians simply haven’t got the message – any more than has the media. They are regarded, collectively, with a mixture of indifference and contempt. Party politics and voting in this country have become a minority preoccupation.

The result today, therefore, is not a disaster, per se for Cameron and his Conservatives, as some would have it. It is a disaster for the flawed experiment in representative democracy, another nail in the coffin of a failed system.

As for UKIP, the picture remains muddy. Your Freedom and Ours observes that their plan to become the third party after the Lib-Dims has fallen by the wayside by the latter’s victory in Eastleigh.

They cannot pretend that they are the second party in the country with no MPs and very few councillors. So, despite the undoubted rejoicing in the UKIP ranks and despite the nauseating plaudits that will be heaped on the Dear Leader, the fact remains: after 20 years and in the most propitious circumstances they remain in no-man’s land.

Increasingly though, this is becoming the “no-electors’ land” – a wasteland of democracy. And the politicians can’t even bring themselves to admit it.

COMMENT: “EASTLEIGH” THREAD

Richard North 01/03/2013


 UK politics: Eastleigh by-election

Friday 1 March 2013

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More than usual hyperventilation has attended this by-election, with some pretty bizarre predictions, even by the rather low standards of British political commentary. For what it is worth, my (private) prediction was that the Lib-dims would romp home, the Tories would come a poor second, Labour third and UKIP would keep their deposit with about seven percent of the vote … all on a very low turnout of 40 percent.

 
But then, I was certainly wrong on the turnout, as early reports put the it at 52 percent. This is higher than I expected although low in contrast to the 69.3 percent cast in the 2010 general election. All the same, no one at the beginning of the count was expecting the earlier tosh about UKIP winning to materialise, although there was still some expectation that UKIP might make second place.
 
As always though, the postal votes were set to play a crucial part, with 14,000 issued, and the Lib-Dems expected to take the lion’s share.  Given that most of these votes were in before the latest groping controversy, that vote was expected to be fairly solid.

UKIP had to beat Ray Finch’s 2010 performance, when he took 1,933 votes, taking 3.6 percent of the votes cast, losing his deposit. In the 1997 election, the Referendum Party fronted Victor Eldridge and took 2,013, also coming in with 3.6 percent of the votes. Thirteen years had not delivered any appreciable enhancement in eurosceptic sentiment in Eastleigh.

 
The talk though is of UKIP becoming the reservoir of the protest vote, and in particular capitalising on concerns about immigration. 
 
And, at just after 2.30 am, the result came through. The Lib-Dems did indeed romp home, coming in with 13,342 votes, against the second comer at 11,571 votes – UKIP.  Second place for Farage’s party, nearly a thousand ahead of the Conservatives at 10,599.  Labour trails at 4,088 votes. So much for my powers of prediction.
 
Mike Thornton’s vote of 13,342 votes compares with Chris Huhne’s 24,966 in 2010, yet Thornton talks of a Lib-Dem “mandate”, having dragged in a pitiful 32 percent of the votes cast, and 17 percent of the electorate of 78,313.  UKIP’s great victory amounts to 28 percent of the votes cast, or 14.8 percent of the electorate. 
 
This is a victory of sorts – bald men fighting over a comb, squabbling over a diminishing quantum, where an MP goes to parliament with a “mandate” of 17 percent of the electorate.  It never was democracy.  Now, it isn’t even representative.

COMMENT THREAD

Richard North 01/03/2013

You may also find the facts and opinions of the Junius Team of interest CLICK HERE

Dr. Eric Edmond’s take on the results ar Eastleigh of interest CLICK HERE.

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