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UKIP In Muddle on Peter Reeves’ Patch, Round Two!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/03/2013

UKIP In Muddle on Peter Reeves’ Patch, Round Two!

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Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

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The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

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UKIP In Yet More Muddles on Peter Reeves’ Patch, Round Two sucks in posturing unprofessional UKIP executives jockeying for position!!

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we note UKIP under the attempt at leadership of Nigel Farage displays its management style, professionalism and competence at governance which can be well analysed by extrapolation from how it manages the simplest of events and the utter bufoons it has as spokesmen as they bicker and squabble to how they would behave were they ever to have authority over anything of consequence.

 

Sharon caught in the cross fire of two neighbouring UKIP regions who cannot agree if she’s their media spokesman

Sharon Jardine, UKIP.
Sharon Jardine, UKIP.

By John Elworthy , The Editor Wednesday, March 13, 2013
3:35 PM

UKIP has still not decided if they will apologise- and reinstate- their ‘Cambs media liaison officer’ Sharon Jardine who has been caught in the cross fire between neighbouring regional officials.

The party’s eastern region insists that her job title is “unofficial”, she’s not even a party member and the man who gave it to her had no right to do so.

However the party’s east midlands office appears to contradict the tough statement put out by eastern region press officer Stuart Gulleford.

He told her to quit using the title immediately although Chris Pain, UKIP East Midlands regional chairman has an entirely different version of events.

“I would like to confirm that I had asked Sharon to represent UKIP in Wisbech due to the hard work that she has put into the area,” he said.

He said comments to the contrary “are bewildering to say the least”.

Ken Perrin, also criticised by Mr Gulleford for having “no authority to either appoint or give out job titles”, responded by claiming he’d like to meet me “face to face and have a gentlemanly discussion about this”. His recent emails have been signed “UKIP NE Cambs organiser.”

Meanwhile Mrs Jardine has produced a completed membership form from February for UKIP “and I do hope I get an apology for all this rubbish.”

She said: “I will not be called a liar.”

Mrs Jardine sprung to the fore when she began organising a Facebook page entitled ‘Wisbech Immigration Issues’ which plans a protest in Wisbech Park in May.

Mrs Jardine, of Tydd Gote, said she planned to stand for UKIP in May’s county council elections and was organising a protest to allow people to voice the view that “immigration is out of control.”

She said: “I started to learn more about UKIP but I’m not someone who is political. I just believe that immigration is out of control and it needs to be sorted”

Mr Gulleford said: ““We have nothing to do with the protest march- and I knew nothing of it until newspaper cuttings were brought to my attention,” he said.

“People seem to be adopting titles that don’t exist.”

As of last night Mr Gulleford would only confirm that Alan Lay of Wisbech would be the official UKIP candidate in a Fenland Council by election.

Of Mrs Jardine there was no further word. Mr Gulleford’s bosses are said to be “dealing with it.”

To view the original article CLICK HERE

To see senior members of the management of UKIP all acting in complete discord and to have as a spokesman the oaffish bully Stuart Agnew described by Farage as ‘as thick as pig sh*t but hes got money‘ – a fool who threatens to assault people who dare to hold him in contempt a man who is still under investigation for fraud having boasted on camera to the Sunday Times of how he defrauded the public purse to pay for political aspirants in UKIP!
Clearly UKIP executives either do not converse or worse still care nothing of the party in their scrabble for their own positions!
Yet again UKIP makes it abundantly clear that in their present state no one of any integrity or belief in probity and ethics could see them as other than unfit for purpose.
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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.

They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then  still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
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PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS: ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.

Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!

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UKIP In Yet Another Muddle on Peter Reeves’ Patch!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/03/2013

UKIP In Yet Another Muddle Peter Reeves’ patch!

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UKIP In Yet Another Muddle on Peter Reeves’ Patch!
Little wonder that the duplicitous Gollom is stirring the pot!

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it is just this sort of utterly idiotic article that UKIP attracts that not only gives them the well earned reputation as cranks, closet racists and gadflies but shows just how unprofessional they are.

As for ‘paying their own membership fees’ many will remember the Conservative reject who UKIP laid claim to who did not pay his own membership fee and subsequently denied ever having been a member of UKIP!

Also worthy of note are the large percentage of UKIP members who were given free membership in an attempt to boost membership levels in an effort to fudge an appearance of success and achievement, growth and credibility!

Make of the article what you will!! Minded that both The Telegraph and Guardian have articles showing just how unbprofessional and bulluying UKIP is and its anti female stance can be, lined up for tomorrow and I’m told the Guardian will be front page!

UKIP top brass fuming over self appointed ‘Cambs Media Liaison Officer’ responsible for immigration protest who is not even a party member

By John Elworthy Thursday, March 7, 2013
3:57 PM

Sharon Jardine, UKIP.

 A WOMAN who claims to be “UKIP Cambs Media Liaison Officer” is self appointed and not even a member of the party, it was revealed today

Sharon Jardine is nothing to do with UKIP, said the party’s eastern region press officer Stuart Gulleford, who doubles as adviser to UKIP MEP Stuart Agnew.

Mrs Jardine suddenly sprung to the fore when she began organising a Facebook page entitled ‘Wisbech Immigration Issues’ which plans a protest in Wisbech Park in May.

Mrs Jardine, of Tydd Gote, said she planned to stand for UKIP in May’s county council elections and was organising a protest to allow people to voice the view that “immigration is out of control.”

She said: “I started to learn more about UKIP but I’m not someone who is political. I just believe that immigration is out of control and it needs to be sorted”

But Mr Gulleford said today: “Her title is unofficial. This is people who have gotten a bit carried away with themselves.”

He was “pretty annoyed” with Mrs Jardine since no one had accredited her with any title connected to UKIP.

“We have nothing to do with the protest march- and I knew nothing of it until newspaper cuttings were brought to my attention,” he said.

“People seem to be adopting titles that don’t exist.”

Mr Gulleford said UKIP did not have a separate NE Cambs branch and he would be asking why Ken Perrin of Chatteris describes himself as “UKIP organiser NE Cambs” in letters to the press.

Mr Gulleford said: “Mr Perrin has no authority to give people job titles and Mrs Jardine certainly does not speak for the whole of Cambridgeshire, as the title I see on her email suggests.

“I have now spoken to Regional Organiser, Councillor Peter Reeve, who is going to sort all this out. “

Mrs Jardine said today: “My membership is being processed as we speak through another member Chris Pain as he is paying the membership fee for me.

“Alan Lay (a declared UKIP candidate for this month’s Fenland by election at Wisbech St Mary) has only just received his membership to and we actually discussed that last night as I was concerned I had not received it all through yet!”

She said her title “was appointed by Ken Perrin who took my UKIP membership form and passed it to the head office so not sure why they are upset”.

Mr Gulleford said later, in an email, that “there is a membership application for Ms Jardine in the pipeline but, at the time of writing, she is not a member.

“I spoke with head office today and they have no record of her membership.

“I am mystified as to the reason for her Party membership – £30- allegedly being paid for by someone from another region.

“The rest of us pay our own membership fees.”

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Greg_L-W..

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Chris Pain Finds UKIP Squabbling Like Ferrets in a Sack!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/02/2013

Chris Pain Finds UKIP Squabbling Like Ferrets in a Sack!
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is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

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New NEC Member Chris Pain Finds UKIP Members & Supporters Squabbling Like Ferrets in a Sack!

So what is new I guess!

Could you imagine this shower ever having authority in a position of Governance & trust!

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  1. Yesterday, 09:23 PM #11

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    Seth Starkadder :
    Actually, you are reading plain English.
    Events that have so tragically shaped UKIP these last few years when a 29,500 membership in autumn 2004 should have been increased by many times, and we see a one year police investigation ongoing ( resources for which have to be justified, and the C.P.S. – or even in this case perhaps the Attourney General’s office, – convinced of a case with admissable evidence ) matters as discussed above do in fact impact.

    We have seen ‘Junius’ publish cartoons of Mr Clark MEP, including wareing his bedroom slippers whilst simultaneously correspondence backs up that which appears online.
    That is, derogeratory statements designed to undermine an original member who like myself and others similarly denegrated, started the party in the country from our own resources.

    When one reads about Mr Clark “…..his reputation for falling asleep……. time to hang up the slippers ! D.C…….. he has to go home for Horlicks and bed regardless………. “

    then he informs the world

    “….. some great mileage here for Junius………

    just a few bits to be put to print ! “

    Note the sneering !exclamation mark.

    He clearly states ” I will be happy to send on info to you in the future……..”

    Then why does he not publish the ‘info’ that explains why we lost so many decent volunteer members, the sources of the three £ 500 cheques, their onward transfer, into which accounts, the correspondence requesting back our hard earned money, and who exactly are the ‘Junius’ team who rather like Lord Rennard; are rather adept at getting their candidate elected.

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    That is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever heard and there is no truth in that what so ever. I presume posted by Paula who recently rejoined the UKIP Nottingham branch ( AKA Tiquipaya ), it’s nice to see her back to her old tricks again. I have never had my integrity questioned at a East Midland Meeting, in fact i was voted 6-0 twice last year by the regional committee as the regional chairman ( first committee was disbanded by Derek, so there had to be a re-vote by a second committee). Also quite interesting I have never had any payment from the East Mids Committee at all, in fact I have just organised my second regional conference in Skegness, both cost me a fair amount of money and a lot of time and effort. If anyone wants to know the truth these facts can be clarified by the RO or any committee members or the minutes of the meetings. Perhaps the person in question wants to ask the secretary for clarification, but that won’t happen because it’s a bare faced lie. If this is the best a failed member of UKIP can do against someone who has worked their socks off for UKIP since 2004, I feel sorry for her!How do you report a false statement on here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gillman View Post
    Recalling our General Election ’round-up’ meeting which is invoked by the above I recall the Regional Organiser explaining to the the East Midlands committe how a candidate had particularly upset many volunteer members.
    He clearly indicated that a certain candidate would not be encouraged in his blatent and transparent intentions.
    I recall resignations due to behavoir not previously associated with those of us who started the branches and regions.
    The figure of £ 1,500 comes to mind in three cheques of £ 500 each , and clear written verbal and committee approved requests for return of our money. The chairman too had been approached.
    Bank statements show the truth of the matter, cheque books too. Yes the evidence mentioned above is available.
    Ian what is this post about, I have never been at a regional committee meeting whilst you were there, in fact my first meeting was as the No2 MEP candidate in 2009, at which stage i believe you had left the party to form UK first. Please don’t tell me you are enhancing this lie of Paula’s???The verbal ‘trashing’ of the long term treasurer ( 15 years )was a disgrace. His treatment alone should have merited action by a discliplinary committee.
    The immediate condemnation of all that had gone before without any evidence of experience, intellect in these matters, or actual ability to effect anything better , again an utter disgrace. We volunteers had effected the election of ten MEP’s by giving up our time and resources to achieve those in elected office who would assist our withdrawel from the E.U.Correspondence widely circulated indicates that the ‘Junius’ team now have in place a long supported protegee.
    Little wonder then that Mr Derek Clark MEP is lampooned in cartoon form upon the internet, by a fountain in Nottingham, shown in his slippers, derided as liking his Horlicks, and derogatory comments are published about him when clear written statements are passed around about the leadership being carefully kept in the dark about exactly what is happening .
    Monday being the likely NEC meeting day should be very interesting.Will there be a challenge for the leadership ?Ian what is this post about, I have never been at a regional committee meeting whilst you were there, in fact my first meeting was as the No2 MEP candidate in 2009, at which stage i believe you had left the party to form UK first. Please don’t tell me you are enhancing this lie of Paula’s???

    Ian what is this post about, I have never been at a regional committee meeting whilst you were there, in fact my first meeting was as the No2 MEP candidate in 2009, at which stage i believe you had left the party to form UK first. Please don’t tell me you are enhancing this lie of Paula’s???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gillman View Post
    Seth Starkadder :
    Actually, you are reading plain English.
    Events that have so tragically shaped UKIP these last few years when a 29,500 membership in autumn 2004 should have been increased by many times, and we see a one year police investigation ongoing ( resources for which have to be justified, and the C.P.S. – or even in this case perhaps the Attourney General’s office, – convinced of a case with admissable evidence ) matters as discussed above do in fact impact.We have seen ‘Junius’ publish cartoons of Mr Clark MEP, including wareing his bedroom slippers whilst simultaneously correspondence backs up that which appears online.
    That is, derogeratory statements designed to undermine an original member who like myself and others similarly denegrated, started the party in the country from our own resources.When one reads about Mr Clark “…..his reputation for falling asleep……. time to hang up the slippers ! D.C…….. he has to go home for Horlicks and bed regardless………. “then he informs the world

    “….. some great mileage here for Junius………

    just a few bits to be put to print ! “

    Note the sneering !exclamation mark.

    He clearly states ” I will be happy to send on info to you in the future……..”

    Then why does he not publish the ‘info’ that explains why we lost so many decent volunteer members, the sources of the three £ 500 cheques, their onward transfer, into which accounts, the correspondence requesting back our hard earned money, and who exactly are the ‘Junius’ team who rather like Lord Rennard; are rather adept at getting their candidate elected.

    29,500 membership?
    could you please say where you got this figure from?
    esp as you say 2004.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Pain View Post
    That is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever heard and there is no truth in that what so ever. I presume posted by Paula who recently rejoined the UKIP Nottingham branch ( AKA Tiquipaya ), it’s nice to see her back to her old tricks again. I have never had my integrity questioned at a East Midland Meeting, in fact i was voted 6-0 twice last year by the regional committee as the regional chairman ( first committee was disbanded by Derek, so there had to be a re-vote by a second committee). Also quite interesting I have never had any payment from the East Mids Committee at all, in fact I have just organised my second regional conference in Skegness, both cost me a fair amount of money and a lot of time and effort. If anyone wants to know the truth these facts can be clarified by the RO or any committee members or the minutes of the meetings. Perhaps the person in question wants to ask the secretary for clarification, but that won’t happen because it’s a bare faced lie. If this is the best a failed member of UKIP can do against someone who has worked their socks off for UKIP since 2004, I feel sorry for her!How do you report a false statement on here?
    Here is the response of the underhand and cowardly FKEU – too ashamed of his lies, inuendo and behaviour to put his name to his cowardly carping:

    Intresting.
    Seems there are a nice group of people so desperate for UKIP to fail (as it seems they failed at being ukip themselves) they will spin lies to the sheep who lap them up as want to belive it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Pain View Post
    That is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever heard and there is no truth in that what so ever. I presume posted by Paula who recently rejoined the UKIP Nottingham branch ( AKA Tiquipaya ), it’s nice to see her back to her old tricks again. I have never had my integrity questioned at a East Midland Meeting, in fact i was voted 6-0 twice last year by the regional committee as the regional chairman ( first committee was disbanded by Derek, so there had to be a re-vote by a second committee). Also quite interesting I have never had any payment from the East Mids Committee at all, in fact I have just organised my second regional conference in Skegness, both cost me a fair amount of money and a lot of time and effort. If anyone wants to know the truth these facts can be clarified by the RO or any committee members or the minutes of the meetings. Perhaps the person in question wants to ask the secretary for clarification, but that won’t happen because it’s a bare faced lie. If this is the best a failed member of UKIP can do against someone who has worked their socks off for UKIP since 2004, I feel sorry for her!How do you report a false statement on here?
    Geoffrey Collier’s retort is:

    Chris Pain: While I do not know the identity of Tiquipaya, I am assured that it is not someone named Paula (whoever she is). From what you say evidence must exist as to her historic wrongdoings. Has she confessed to those? Is the R.O. to whom you refer, a Mr Ramsome who, for purposes of remuneration, denies being the RO and cites his occupation as that of Press Officer in EU ‘claims’ documentaion? The payments to you, I understand, relate to your candidacy in a parliamentary election, although I claim no first-hand knowledge as to the precise details. Apologise to the unfortunate Paula, keep rational, and start again.

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    Geoffrey, it’s quite ovbious that you know something about this slander and the person concerned! So let please put all the aleged info on here, re times, dates, people concerned and who posted this trash!!!!
    There is one problem I have never had any payements from the EMCC at all!
    I have not had a multiple of £500 cheques from the EMCC!
    I have not had a request by email, telephone or from the EMCC, because I have not had
    any money or had any funds period from the EMCC.
    Any one can contact any of the previous or the current EMCC members and my statement will be verified.This will then be confirmed as made up slander from someone that has a grudge against me personaly.
    So please can Tiquipa or yourself supply evidence of any kind re this issue, the answer is no because it does not exist. So please either put up or shut up and post a full appology on here!
    My NEC election result was exceptional, because other regions have got far more members than the East Mids, but this is just green eyed trouble making. After working hard in the party as an activist for eight years, organising two UKIP conferences, plus some decent results at GE’s by UKIP standards whilst repersenting the members, has gained their support. Then again it’s the MEP silly season soon and people will be crawling out from under their stones again, inorder to try to climb up the slimy pole.
    Junius in the past have both supported me and critised me, but there are several people whom I am aware have not voted for me because of the Junius recomendation, so it’s a two edged sword.
    So please Geoffrey please oblige with the information that I have requested above.

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    DELETED AS A DUPLICATE OF THE POST ABOVE!

I have a pretty clear understanding that the unfortunate Ian Gillman is unlikely to publish his evidence, probably using some ‘secret squirrel’ dellusion, and I know for certain he hasn’t a clue about Junius nor one shred of evidence that Chris Pain has ever spoken to or even knows Junius – though he may well speak to someone who supplies me with facts, as does Ian Gillman from time to time.Let us also be very clear that Derek Clark is a liar, untrustworthy, corrupt and self serving who has boasted openly of the amount of money he has defrauded the public purse of, and he was found guilty of defrauding the public purse of over £30,000 and ordered to repay the money he had perloined by OLAF – A similar amount of money as that which one of the other UKIP MEPs, Tom Wise, stole and for which Tom Wise was sentenced to 2 years in prison.I am morally certain that Chris Pain has never wittingly spoken to Junius and thus has never supplied Junius with material to publish. Regular readers will be aware that I personally NEVER confirm or deny who supplies me with the facts which I publish.

And then after an effort to censor the squabbling accusations and bickering broke out again (well it is UKIP! They fight like ferrets in a sack amongst the foot soldiers, just as their leadership does for lack of competence or ability) – note the time line:

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    Reminder of the rules:

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    Ian Gillman surely has proof of all he claims. I wonder why he declines to share the proof with the world. He could afford to lose a £500 deposit in Corby so the cost of a scanner cannot be beyond him.

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    Persons are taking to the telephone in some excitement now as a recently elected NEC member with great plans for his own reforms , a Chris Pain has so much to say.

    The word from many is that Chris P. in his G.E. campaign in Louth, Lincs. obtained £ 500 from the EMCC .
    Then he claimed that the money had not been paid to his campaign and he put a lot of pressure upon the officers to send another cheque. He said that the cheque had not arrived.

    Reluctantly, his campaign was sent another cheque for £ 500 on the clear understanding that if the first cheque turned up it was to be returned to the committee.

    Incredibly, both cheques were banked. A dishonest demand for the second cheque had been made and despite his assurances that only one cheque would be banked, both were.

    The EMCC, short of money and relying upon volunteers with many years standing of generousity were told about these matters. Chris P. was told in several telephone conversations to return the money, he failed to do so.
    Written requests were made for the return of the money, Chris P. ignored those requests.

    The EMCC , following the G.E. met and the R.O. Don Ransome made quite a speech about matters in Louth, and Chris P. in particular. He left an impression that Pain would not be encouraged any further in his membership of UKIP.Members felt let down and cheated.

    The MEP for the region Derek Clark experienced nasty e-mails circulated by Chris P. about him and he became aware of a steady yet ongoing campaign to destabalise him from his position. This, oddly whilst always boosting Pain’s position.

    I did hear that the party chairman was approached by Chris Pain for money too, but unsure of the amounts requested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiquipaya View Post
    Incredibly, both cheques were banked. A dishonest demand for the second cheque had been made and despite his assurances that only one cheque would be banked, both were.
    … Chris P. was told in several telephone conversations to return the money, he failed to do so.
    Written requests were made for the return of the money, Chris P. ignored those requests.

    Then the cowardly ‘Independent UKIP’ as ever ashamed to put his name to his sneering, defamations, inuendo and outright lies said:

    This was surely reported to the Police in 2005. What was the outcome of their investigation, as for some reason you’ve not made reference to that. Thanks.

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This was surely reported to the Police in 2005. What was the outcome of their investigation, as for some reason you’ve not made reference to that. Thanks.
To which Geoffrey Collier made the reply:

Independent UKIP: I made the accurate statement that Chris Pain was wrong to attribute to a Paula? the authorship of that posting. Who the lady is, or what reprehensible things which she did in the past, has no bearing whatever on the issue being discussed. She was certainly not the individual who posted that information. Mr Pain appears to have been voted on to the NEC to help to control the Party, while he clearly has difficulties in controlling himself. Why are the Forum rules applied so unevenly? An NEC member, for example, by the name of Mr Mcgough frequently makes accusations of certain individuals being in the ‘pay’ of others without required to produce evidence. Perhaps with the advantage of reflection, Mr Pain may recall his parliamentary election, and be willing to agree that his local branch did make a financial contribution to him. Is the gentleman saying that no such payment was made, and no banking evidence as a consequence can be produced? Was he both the candidate and sole financier of his campaign?

One can only speculate that Mick McGough’s lies, slanders and defamatory claims are permitted to remain because being known to all as a low life a liar and a cheat it is felt that the more he says the more he damages his own credibility as it is clear that his fellow travellers such as Independent UKIP, FKEU, SDP and their ilk are clearly damaging the credibility of UKIP – hard as that is to do since UKIP are now little more than the only available dustbin, wherein protesters against the two Political Parties in Britain and the LibDims can post their votes with virtually no fear of any long term consequence, as shown by the likes of those quoted above who ensure that UKIP will never achieve anything in domestic politics beyond the cult of the one man band.For more factual details regarding Chris Pain and these matters you may care to CLICK HERE

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Hi,due to a hospital visit today I was up fairly early and had given my various builders, gardners and decorators the day off, so that Lee could enjoy the house in peace!!This gave me the opportunity to read the internet early – The UKIP Forum was interesting and clearly fat boy slim of Sheffield had not donned his shell suit to go to work censoring posts as yet – Thus this post remained, though I’ve not bothered since I’ve been home to check if it has been removed – as have been all the postings regarding the liar and fraudster Derek Clark and his having lied to members, his regional committee, the electorate and the media regarding the money he was ORDERED to repay having fraudulently obtained tax payers money and spent it on staff to get himself re-selected (In the gift of the new Party Dictator under HIS new Constitution) and thus abusing the public purse for personal political gain.

Here is the post from UKIP’s next in line as MEP who would replace the sleaze ridden Derek Clark if he had the integrity to resign.

Chris Paine wrote:

East Midlands Regional Committee
Monday 30th of April:


I went even though I was suffering with a bad man Flu (a sniffle!) which for me is 6 and a half hours night out, straight from work, no food to the UKIP meeting, only to be told that all regional committee’s are no longer in situ through out the country and their chairman and voting members have to be re-selected and until that point they no longer hold office.
I have no problem with re-selection, though this means in the week of council elections we have not got valid committee’s, but I have serious problems with our MEP Derek Clark wasting the other committee members night and my own! Derek had composed this letter on the 12th of April, but did not have the decency or common sense to inform anyone.

At worst we could have been campaigning for UKIP to push us forward for Thursdays elections.

Obviously Derek did not like the fact that he was no longer able to be chairman and was not prepared to answer why he lied to the UKIP regional committee about his OLAF investigation and it’s findings!

It’s nights like this that question the hard work, effort and money we all put into UKIP.

The thing that highlights the stupidity of the situation is that it will be the same people that are selected, because they were selected by each counties branch chairmen.

In the morning, I will ask myself why have I put some much time and effort into something, for something as wrong as this to happen.

Perhaps other UKIP members will inform me what their views are on this.

This reveals just what unprincipled self enriching and self serving pond life UKIP has attracted and kept in its leadership team and the muppets, puppets and political trash that are their claque.No one can claim this behaviour by a long standing Gravy Trainer like Derek Clark, which has clearly been endorsed by Nigel Farage and his brain cell Steve Crowther, and of course Nigel Farage’s PR guru the more than somewhat unstable thief, liar and liability the clearly over paid Annabelle Fuller – HOW can these fools believe the British peoples should vote for such unprofessional corrupt and dishonest rabble – endlessly squabbling for position and personal gain and willing to tell any lie that keeps them feeding from the troughs on the gravy train!

Derek Clark even hoped to dupe his regional committee into believing this blog & Junius would sully their reputations to lie and invent reports of his fraud and dishonesty – Do not forget this slime Derek Clark was the odious individual who colluded with the morally bankrupt Gerard Batten and Douglas Denny to orchestrate a kangaroo court to oust Peter Baker to make way for their controlled puppet – based on trumped up claims of evidence and refusal to permit witnesses who proved they were telling lies – several years ago!Leopards do Not change their spots and Derek Clark is no exception to that rule!

You may also note the information was also viewed by Junius CLICK HERE

I BELIEVE that yet again Derek Clark is telling lies to save his own sordid sleazy skin – Even UKIP leadership can not be so unprofessional as to disband EVERY Regional Committee just to hang onto one of its liars – it has more!

We are reasonably advised by several senior members of UKIP of long standing and good repute (yes there are a few!) that Derek Clark has lied to his Regional Committee – though we can be fairly certain that UKIP’s corrupt leadership will not renounce Derek Clark for his corruption and repeated dishonesty – Does he know too much about the scams to take the risk?

We KNOW Nigel Farage and others in his unprofessional self enriching and self serving leadership team and its claque are and have been all too willing to lie and cheat to enrich themselves on The Gravy Train or to get places on it!

It is the very clear and undeniable unprofessional lack of ethics and morality of UKIP leadership and its sock puppets that have ensured UKIP has achieved so very little in domestic politics and no actual results in moving these United Kingdoms to Leave-The-EU in 20 years, despite the well recorded popularity of the cause espoused by its grass roots rank and file members.

That UKIP leadership has consistently lied to its members and others to keep liars, cheats, fraudsters, thieves and other cowardly individuals on its team happy to lie and defame people to try to cover-up its offensive behaviour and cover for the crimes of its leadership!

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