Some Thoughts & reports on ‘We Demand A Referendum’!
A cause whose time has come?
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YouGov Poll: Majority of Public Do Not Trust Cameron on EU.
A YouGov Poll released today by the newly formed We Demand A Referendum Party shows the majority of electorate DO NOT have trust in David Cameron to stand up for British interests in the European Union.
The poll reveals that 54% do not have trust compared to 38% that do.
The same YouGov poll also reveals that the gap between those who wish to see an EU Referendum (62%) widening over those who do not (24%). In a YouGov Poll last month the figures for the same question were 56% to 28% respectively.
Worryingly for David Cameron the poll shows that almost three out of four Conservative voters want a Referendum.
The single issue We Demand A Referendum Party held their inaugural conference in London on Friday issued an ultimatum to the Prime Minister that if he failed to facilitate a In/Out Referendum by 1st January 2014 they would stand in every region in the next European Elections under the banner ‘We Demand A Referendum’ A YouGov Poll last month showed between 16% and 33% of the electorate would vote for them in June 2014 earning them between 8 and 22 seats.
Party Chairman, Nikki SinclaireMEP said “These results show there is increasing support from across the political spectrum for an EU Referendum – When will the politicians listen to the people?”
The West Midlands MEP added “The economic crisis has changed the ball game in Europe. Fundamental changes are underway, now is the time to decide once and for all which fork in the road to take.”
Sorry – the layout of the tables is near unusable! You will find a more readable version on You Gov’s web site!
YouGov Survey Results
Sample Size: 2083 GB Adults
Fieldwork: 3rd – 4th October 2012
Voting intention
2010 Vote
Gender
Age
Social grade
Region
Total
Con
Lab
Lib Dem
Con
Lab
Lib Dem
Male
Female
18-24
25-39
40-59
60+
ABC1
C2DE
London
Rest of South
Midlands / Wales
North
Scotland
Weighted Results
2083
484
694
147
615
508
496
1012
1071
252
531
712
587
1187
896
267
677
446
512
181
Unweighted Sample
2083
532
608
130
689
446
488
1030
1053
117
479
848
639
1397
686
253
733
427
487
183
%
%
%
%
%
%
%
%
%
%
%
%
%
%
%
%
%
%
%
%
Do you think the government should or should not hold a referendum on whether or not Britain remains a member of the European Union?
Should
62
72
58
42
76
61
50
62
61
34
53
67
74
57
68
58
61
64
63
60
Should Not
24
19
29
45
15
28
38
29
19
40
28
21
18
29
19
30
25
22
20
29
Don’t know
14
9
13
13
9
11
13
8
20
27
19
11
8
14
14
12
14
14
16
11
How much trust, if any, to you have in David Cameron to stand up for British interests in the European Union.
A great deal of trust
6
20
1
4
13
1
5
6
5
7
7
6
5
8
3
7
8
4
5
6
A fair amount of Trust
32
61
18
54
49
17
38
35
30
31
39
31
29
38
25
35
37
32
26
31
TOTAL GREAT DEAL / FAIR AMOUNT OF TRUST
38
81
19
58
62
18
43
41
35
38
46
37
34
46
28
42
45
36
31
37
Not much trust
30
15
36
33
25
33
35
29
31
32
26
29
35
28
33
36
32
29
30
22
No trust at all
24
1
41
5
9
44
17
27
21
16
17
28
28
19
31
16
18
26
33
27
TOTAL NOT MUCH TRUST / NO TRUST
54
16
77
38
34
77
52
56
52
48
43
57
63
47
64
52
50
55
63
49
Don’t Know
7
2
5
3
3
5
5
3
12
14
11
6
2
7
7
6
5
9
7
14
I have reposted below the report from Gary Cartwright of the actual meeting/conference for two reasons – namely that he was there as part of the organisation and secondly as he is well informed as a long term employee of The EU.
Saturday, 6 October 2012
Campaign for a Referendum: Conference a Great Success!
Its always nice to spend a couple of days in London, even if it is a working visit.
On Thursday evening I was delighted to meet Katie Hopkins for the first time: she is absolutely the right person for the campaign, as her media appearences to date have proved. We were joined at dinner at the Victory Services Club by Nikki and a number of senior members of the team, and also Roger Knapman and his wife Carolyn, as well as former Lib-Dem councillor David McGrath and his wife, both of whom I know from the campaign to clear an illegal travellers camp in Meriden. The cross-party demographics of this campaign team give us both integrity and depth.
But the real reason for the trip was our inaugural conference in Westminster. The day began with Katie appearing on ITN’s Daybreak, and by the end of the first round of speakers we were on the front page of the BBC news website. Christian Party Leader George Hargreaves, and the US broadcaster and political analyst Charlie Wolf both gave excellent speeches, adding depth to the debate on our membership of the EU and what it means for our democratic integrity.
It was a chance to catch up with old friends from various parties, including one Conservative MEP, and to meet new people.
No surprise that UKIP had at least two spotters outside, reporting back on who was attending – I suspect that a few people will be getting some unpleasant phone calls or letters from their branch chairman shortly!
Two motions were passed by conference: the first calling on HMG to establish a Royal Commission to set the terms of reference for the referendum, the second calling on the PM to call a binding referendum before Jan 1st 2014.
A great success!
To view the original on Gary Cartwright’s Brussels blog CLICK HERE
I gather from several people who were there that the inagural conference surpassed most expectations in terms of its cross party contribution, its disinterest in UKIP, seen by many as having failed and now discreditted sliding towards the history books as such, and also my contacts were pleasantly surprised at the calliber of the speeches and presentations which at many such events are all too frequently too slick, too smug and too banal delivering nothing.I am fairly reliably informed the attendance was just over 70, which although shy of the 100 I had hope for was a successful result for such short term and also in the light of the childish attacks that have so demeaned UKIP!
I note that the Tory defector and UKIP turncoat David Bannerman was present, presumably having quit the Tories due to his failure and having been put in place in Farage’s party as an MEP in the apparent realisation that he was singularly unlikely to be re-elected having seen through the corruption of UKIP he defected back to the Tories and now having realised the Tories select their prospective MEP lists rather more fairly and with considerably more integrity than UKIP he stood little chance of being above 4th. or 5th. on the list and thus not a hope of being re-elected.
It seems probable that David Bannerman was looking for a new place to hang his hat and some prospect of getting back on the gravy train with his snout in the troughs that are The EU.
It was interesting to see Tony Schofield there but as yet he still seems not to have been fully weened of his love affair with UKIP which though it has turned sour leaves him in hope over experience.
I do endorse the decision and commend to you the fact that liars and low lifes Mick McGough and John Moran were made unwelcome and asked not to enter the meeting – they have shown in much detail their lack of ethics and dishonesty and clearly had nothing to offer the new organisation and would have proved a distraction and an embarrassment as they do in UKIP.
I gather McGough is not in favour at the moment having opposed the decision of Nigel Farage and Lisa Duffy to place the idiotic and discreditted self seeker Winston McKenzie in the key role – a more obvious political prostitute and self seeker would be hard to find anywhere but in the ranks of UKIP leadership’s claque.
Imagine if UKIP ever gained any position of authority how odious it would be – the centralised denial of any sense of democratic ethics, the McCarthy style infiltration of other people’s organisations, the keeping and making of lists of attendees, the odious bigots given status in UKIP, the prostitutes, the drunken yobbery, the corruption, the controlling nature, the centralised dictatorship and so many more anti democratic actions and controlling beliefs – They call it Libertarian!!!
Let us hope that the We Demand A Referendum moves forward from this limited success to greater things, which as the polls show are both populist and popular.
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BBC features ‘We Demand A Referendum’ campaign’s inagural Conference at Westminster Hall today!!
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Hi,
here is the first picture to emerge from the We Demand A Referendum Party inaugural Conference at Westminster Hall today:
5 October 2012 Last updated at 12:44
You will also note that some odious coward has launched a site to defame and denigrate the efforts and patriotism of Nikki Sinclaire, Katie Hopkins and Gary Cartwright SO FAR!
Exactly as I predicted would happen to assist The EU and its army of bribed supporters.
Interesting that it is in almost the exact style of the UKIP site run by a vile little twerp, also too ashamed to put his name to his odious and self serving comments who passed himself off as Skeptyk – Usefull idiots are a dime a dozen and UKIP leadership would seem to have an overdose of them – One can understand the fact that they are embarrassed that ordinary people with ordinary backgrounds and no material funding from the public purse have shown them for what they are – USELESS!
Face facts: In 20 years at a cost of around £50,000,000 from the public purse UKIP has achieved the sum total of zero to move this country one fraction of an inch closer to the aim to Leave-The-EU but in a very short time as an elected MEP Team Sinclaire hasd achieved all this!
Hardly surprising the low lifes seek to attack Sinclaire!
Unlike UKIP’s MEPs none of this new Party’s main characters have been sent tyo prison and or ordered to repay huge sums to the public purse.
Further – unlike Farage, Titford, Graham Booth, Stuart Agnew, David Bannerman, Tom Wiser, and Derek Clark Nikki Sinclaire has not been investigated by OLAF that anyone has managed to show – nor is she under investigation unlike Stuart Agnew & David Bannerman whilst the rest were found guilty and had to pay back money they had missappropriated!
Lets leave the muck racking of private lives to the scum working to help The EU and concentrate on the efforts of Sinclaire, Hopkins, Cartwright and their supporters to gain an IN / OUT Referendum based on the results of a Royal Commission and a free, fair and equally funded Referendum without foreign intervention from The EU and its corrupt supporters!
We note the EU’s friends with their spoof site and tittle tattle have failed to show any single solitary offence of those in the new party that are not well known in spades from the shower of self serving UKIP leadership and their fellow travellers!
Shock Horror – we are told Katie Hopkins when single had an afair!
Wow – we are told that shortly after service to his country in The RAF Gary Cartwright was briefly involved, as he found his feet in civvie street with a strage group of politicians lets face it UKIP is a member of the overtly anti Jewish, anti homosexual, holocaust denying, racists and supporters of Anders Breivick – In fact Nigel Farage leads not only his party but the odious EFD extremist group in The EU’s gutters!
Good luck to The We Demand A Referendum campaign – I hope your conference will attract many more followers in the longer term, gain a Royal Commission and work to Leave-The-EU!
New EU referendum party holding first conference
Former Apprentice contestant Katie Hopkins is backing the new party
A former Apprentice contestant and several ex-UKIP politicians are among those attending the first meeting of a new party calling for a referendum on the UK’s membership of the EU.
The We Demand a Referendum party was launched last month by Nikki Sinclaire, a member of the European Parliament.
The party, whose slogan is “let the people the decide”, is holding its first conference in central London
Ms Sinclaire, who left UKIP in 2010, insists the party is not eurosceptic.
The party’s leading figures also include Roger Knapman – who led the UK Independence Party until 2006.
‘Distraction’Ms Sinclaire says We Demand a Referendum will stand candidates in every region in 2014’s European elections unless Prime Minister David Cameron sets the date for a vote to decide whether or not the UK remains a member of the European Union.
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If Mr Cameron won’t give us a vote, then we’ll simply demand one at the 2014 European elections”
Nikki SinclaireMEP
“We’ve proven that six out of 10 people now want a referendum on this issue,” she said.
“It is time to let the people decide. If Mr Cameron won’t give us a vote, then we’ll simply demand one at the 2014 European elections”.
A spokesman for the UK Independence Party, which has long campaigned for the UK to exit the EU, described We Demand a Referendum as a “distraction”.
“You’ve had a whole range of withdrawlist parties and independent candidates standing and all have sank without trace,” he said. “Their heart’s in the right place but we feel the same will happen in this instance.”
Other issuesJoining Ms Sinclaire at the party’s inaugural conference on Friday are Katie Hopkins, a former contestant on the BBC’s Apprentice show, and the right-wing broadcaster Charlie Woolf.
Ms Hopkins told the BBC’s Daily Politics in September that the party is also campaigning on issues such as traveller sites and fighting for small businesses.
Party founder Ms Sinclaire was suspended from UKIP in 2010 and subsequently expelled.
She has since won a sex discrimination claim against the party and, until recently, sat as an independent in Brussels.
Last year she was behind a petition of 100,000 signatures calling for a referendum on the UK’s future relationship with the EU.
The petition led to a House of Commons debate on the issue and 81 Conservative MPs defied David Cameron to support an “in-out” vote.
The Beatles ‘Love Me Do’ released 50 years ago today!
As was the launch of the first ‘James Bond‘ film with the iconic British flag waving!
Today in 2012 is the inaugural Conference of:
‘We Want A Referendum’ campaign at Westminster Hall!
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Hi,today – Friday 05-Sept-1962 was the day on which the original Beatles line up, before Ringo Starr joined the group, released their first single.
It is the 50th anniversary of the release of Love Me Do:
Today is also the anniversary of the iconic British series of James Bond films with the release of Sean Connery as James Bond in the film ‘Dr. NO‘
It is also the actual day today of the inagural conference of the new British political party ‘We Demand A Referendum‘ I shall campaign and support the campaign to ‘Let The People Decide‘ based on the FACTS provided by a Royal Commission with no additional commitment to The EU and no further payments until AFTER The IN / OUT Referendum is held with equal funding and equal media coverage for both sides and absolutely NO interference from corrupt external sources such as The EU and its puppets.I shall campaign and support a NO vote launched today since it is the 50th. anniversary of Doctor NO let us hope when we Leave-The-EU it will prove as great a success as James Bond!
Good luck to Nikki Sinclaire and her team in their campaign for a referendum – just as with The Beatles 50 years ago – who would have expected such a huge success – I did when I bought my copy of the 45rpm single Love Me Do with ‘PS I Love You’ on the flip side, on the day it was released in Germany where I lived at the time or back at school in Bristol, which I can’t remember as I was 16 and much has happened since!
I do well remember that at the time I was vehemently opposed to Britain ever joining the then EEC (EUropaische Wirtschaft Gemeinschaft!)
Today I’m looking forward to the start of something big that 50 years on will be seen as the great turning point in British history when the people of Britain started to stand on their own feet once more with the determination to excerciswe their fundamental human right of ‘Self Determination‘ sickened by the betrayal of their Country, their ancestors, their descendants and themselves by their low caliber self serving, self enriching politicial elite and their corrupt Civil Servants and State Broadcasters.
The new Movement has been launched as a political party not to gain seats but to comply with Electoral Commission law and gain influence and today with almost 1/4 Million signatures and a House of Commons debate already achieved having only launched the movement formally just a couple of weeks ago to get anything over 100 to attend their inagural conference at Westminster Hall will be a great step forward today.
Already Nikki Sinclaire has been on radio today promoting her team and their aims.
I hope all goes well for them and their genuine supporters – there will of course be many who after years of being paid £Millions to achieve this great step will be embarrassed at their total failure to deliver who will snipe and detract from the achievement and seek every way they can to denigrate it just as there will be many a ‘band wagon’ jumper trying to pretend it is their achievement just as UKIP leadership did as they paraded up and down outside Parliament at Westminster whilst the debate Team Sinclaire had achieved went on inside!
The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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UKIP: Gary Cartwright on Nigel Farage who is UKIP!
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UKIP: Gary Cartwright on Nigel Farage
From Gary Cartwright’s blog:
I was highly amused to see a certain party leader looking like a scared rabbit caught in car headlights, desperately explaining to a Tory chum his thoughts on a referendum in Brussels a couple of weeks ago.
I wonder what has suddenly made him so concerned about a referendum now?
Better Late Than Never!
Demanding of David Cameron a promise of a referendum “written in blood” is all jolly stirring stuff, but when the person in question didn’t actually sign the petition calling for a referendum until after it had actually been presented to 10 Downing Street, those words sound somewhat hollow. But words are cheap, and easy to come by.
Unlike collecting 220,000 signatures, forcing a debate in the Commons, and provoking a back-bench revolt, all of which required great effort and some financial cost, words actually count for little unless they are backed up with deeds. UKIP’s words rarely seem to be backed up with deeds. The party has descended into a world of yaa-boo politics: name calling and jeering from the sidelines. The party is simply not interesting anymore.
It amused me, although it did not surprise me, when after the first 100,000 signatures were handed in and we learned there was to be a debate on a referendum on our continued membership of the EU, no less than 3 other groups tried to take the credit for it. I remember well UKIP’s feeble and half-hearted attempt at raising a petition. It appers to have acheived nothing – apart that is from an expenditure of a substantial 6 figure sum. I have often wondered where that money went…
As we approach our inaugural conference on Friday 5th, at Westminster Central Hall, I expect the usual libels and slanders that I have come to expect from the UKIP press office to start oozing to the surface. If you can’t do anything, attack those who can, seems to be the strategy. Probably the only strategy UKIP has, I am afraid.
When I think of the UKIP press office, for some reason the words of Lewis Carroll: “T’was brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe…” come into my mind.
do you not feel Gary is being a little harsh on Farage’s party, when after all it has only cost the tax payers around £50,000,000 over the years for UKIP to achieve the sum total of:
– come to think of it, beyond defame and malign a lot of people, wind up with MEPs in prison, lie to the Courts and to the police what have they achieved of value?
Then of course there was the way in which they seem to have slept their way into the choice of all too many of their staff, lied on a consistent basis, both to Regional Committees, electorate and members about their various thefts and sordid corruption.
Might it be: What seems to have been over egging the rigging of a vote, to do away with member’s democratic input and turn the party into a one man band dictatorship, (as made abundantly clear in Marta Andreassen’s full interview given to Michael Crick – which one must assume will be presented in suitable form for an election!) with appointed pond life and low lifes doing as Farage orders as he holds the purse strings, all staff appointments, positions in selection lists, and of course it seems he hold the rigging rights for votes and funding for bribes!
Might their achievement be to have pulled together a leadership clique that hold onto office only by bribery, bullying, dishonesty and intimidation?
Could it be the facility of stealing money to use as bribes just as Tom Wise did though he was rightly sent to prison for his criminality!
One wonders why Derek Clark was not also as he was ordered to repay almost exactly the same sum which he had misappropriated and Nigel Farage, Graham Booth, and Jeffrey Titford were also ordered to repay money to the public purse.
I note you also do not know what happened to the money taken from the public purse by Farage, Lott, Croucher etc. for a petition which was never presented and were you not a staffer at the time! Seems UKIP leadership are consistent on one count – corruption.
Farage has time and again gone on public media and outright lied just as Malcolm Pearson lied when leader to deselect Nikki Sinclaire becauser as an MEP she was showing up the other UKIP MEPs with the transparency of her accounts and her dedication, ethicality and workload (a sure way to make enemies in UKIP!) currently Stuart Agnew and David Bannerman are, I am reliably informed – still under investigation by OLAF for their abuse of trust in elected office and misuse of public money (as with Tom Wise who went to prison for his crimes).
Interestingly UKIP make much of trying to befoul Sinclaire’s name yet OLAF have absolutely no interest in investigating her, despite what seem to be ‘set up fantasies’ spun to West Midlands Police by John Ison, seemingly for his preferment in political rivalry as promised by UKIP – and since only one man in UKIP makes the decisions clearly he must have authorised the attempted set up!
Sadly Gary – your posting is accurate and it is clear there isn’t a single solitary achievement of note for the £50,000,000 or so we, as tax payers, have permitted UKIP to steal, purloin, squander and abuse.
Yet it is possible to achieve as an MEP, as Nikki Sinclaire has most ably shown, even using her own money for the cause where the rest of UKIP leadership seem to think paying money for their own election is some sort of magnanimous gesture – beyond that what money has ANY UKIP MEP ever donated to the good of the party?
So sad when they had such potential and hardly surprising they try to jump on every passing band wagon!
In reality UKIP leadership are beneath contempt – just a gaggle of racist, abusive self seekers of little or no merit!
Regards, Greg_L-W.
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Isn’t it astonishing that some of the most consistently corrupt politicians slide through every situation, be it drunkeness, consorting with prostitutes, self enrichment, sexual abuse, abuse of power need I go on? We all have watched in horrified disgust as ‘teflon coated politicians’ oleaginously slide through every challenge.
Tony Blair clocked up almosty every aspect of such horror and added war crimes and crimes against humanity unchallenged, as Clinton in his sexual inadequacy needed reassurance at every opportunity even so far as rape – it is not just Jimmy Saville and the entertainment business that expresses its inadequacies and inferiority by exploiting sex with the vulnerable.
Then again let us face it – since political decision making of any meaning is an undemocratic process of imposition by unelected beauraucrats on a top down basis with no regard to the wishes of the people most politicians are relegated to being little more than entertainers – perhaps this inadequacy explains the way in which so called leaders are able to act in a criminal manner or at best amorally!
What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.
They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.
Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.
The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!
To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!
Regards,
Greg L-W.
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PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS: ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!
I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:
Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.
Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.
It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.
To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.
Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!
The conference will be held on Friday 5th October from 10.30am – 3.30pm
Speakers on the day will include the following –
Nikki Sinclaire MEP
Katie Hopkins
George Hargreaves
Roger Knapman
+ A Guest Speaker
Places for this event are limited and we urge anybody who wishes to attend to book by calling the office on
0121 359 5933
For further information on this event please do not hestitate to contact the team on the above number, or email on info@letthepeopledecide.eu
Further meetings across the country will be held and announced in due course.
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Let us hope that they have booked the right sized rooms (a very difficult guess!) as they vary in size between over 2,000 and around 30 as I recall – personally I believe anything over 100 attending will be a success, as the organisation has been at relatively short notice and clearly the main parties are frightened of seeing their control to rig a referendum being challenged and are likely to try to sabotage the effort!
Even little UKIP who have shown that they are resoundingly rejected in domestic politics and only seem to have a following in EU protest antics, have been pulling out all the stops to try to sabotage the initiative!
There may be more in attendance than I expect, even The EU can be expected tobe sending spies and delegates to try to undermine this initiative!
Just think howmany €Millions, of our money as tax payers, and howmany 1,000s of bribes were handed out by EU staffers and those living on EU bribes to try to get votes that The EU wanted in Ireland – against the wishes of the people of Ireland who were resoundingly betrayed by their own self seeking politicians!
Consider how regularly the British people have been lied to by their own politicians – Cameron, Heath, Rippon, Clegg, Farage, Clark and all in between, just to keep their snouts in the troughs on the EU Gravy Train.
Good luck to Team Sinclaire and I look forward to hearing all about the speakers and hope it will be videoed for those of us who can’t get there.
Paul Nuttall exposes UKIP’s true values on The Politics Show!
We note Katie Hopkins has her own views as well as presenting the aims of the ‘We Demand A Referendum’ campaign and already the scum that support UKIP are posting web sites to defame and denigrate her, Nikki Sinclaire & Gary Cartwright from a position of obscene anonymity!
The fear is palpable as is the betrayal of the electorate for personal gain!
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though I agree with the comment made by Team Junius, on their blog CLICK HERE, I do believe that they have failed to point out that the Farage Party, which represents the so called leadership clique and its claque of scuzzy self seekers, and NOT UKIP which is the well meaning, if stunningly naiive and ill informed 10,000 or so ordinary members who lend their names to the corruption, largely in innocence and a spirit of hope over experience.
Sadly the party is driven on as an unprofessional clique of self serving self interested and mutually self supporting and self enriching and unethical rascals.
It is clear they have no clear aims beyond the mantras that hide their own gain, be it sexual, financial or perceived status as they behave like a rather unpleasant gaggle of low lifes on a reality game show – endlessly attacking and abusing anyone who dares to hold an opinion that may counter or question theirs. None are so berated and abused as those who support the aims of UKIP but have seen through the charlatans who control it.
One need only see the fool Nuttall’s contortions to attack Katie Hopkins and the We Demand A Referendum campaign that has actually achieved something.
Nuttall even went so far as to make an issue of accusing them of vote splitting, no doubt in terror at the prospect of losing his over paid position and having to get a job, as he made it clear he considered MEPs to be ineffective and useless.
It is clear that the We Demand A Referendum campaign does not seek office and has no intention of being a political party and upsetting the carefully constructed LibLabEUkipCon of the two main parties and their acolytes, ensuring they remain on their respective gravy trains; merely working to ensure a referendum on their terms and show that the LibLabEUkipCon want no such fair and informed vote of the people (to appreciate this just read the Faragistas pamphlet on Referendum!).
In fact it was clear that what Team Junius had failed to point out was that The Faraginies have no vision, no strategy, no tactics, no exit and survival strategy and no future and are utterly dependent on pointing out the perceived failings of others, actual or imaginary, as they have not a single solitary achievement to their names and had Jimmy Goldsmith and The Referendum Party lived UKIP would already have faded into oblivion as just anothr gaggle of self seekers.
Farage’s Party is so bereft of aims and achievements and so without professionalism, as shown by the fact that after 20 years they have totally failed to build a team, a structure, MPs or even any sound base of elected councillors of any worth, or as Nuttall makes clear provide anyone of any note other than Farage!
Failed and rejected Tories, be they geriatric, crimional or merely fools, hardly represent success!
To try to promote poor old Lord whatever at the conference as a great achievement when he left the Tories around a decade ago, is virtually unknown to the peoples of Britain and retired long ago, shows the bankruptcy of the Farage Party and the insult to the intelligence of the electorate of fielding the proven corrupt dismissed ex Tory Niel Hamilton is no more than an embarrassment.
As one UKIP insider (with experience as a staffer in the claque) noted recently a good way to achieve prefferment in the Farage Party is to prostitute oneself to promotion!
Swanning around in The EU liberally greasing the wheels is no substitute for achievement and as far as I know was not what was meant by ‘climbing the greasy pole’!
That failed elderly Tories may provide a sad backdrop to the boudoir, the antics of the younger members and their obsession with their ‘members’ merely shows the party for the vile little gaggle of amoral, immoral, racist, abusive, anti homosexual, anti Jewish low lifes they indesputably are.
Check out the track record of the other scum in the EFD and then wonder at how the Farage clique and its claque fit so well in that environment of squalid hate and self enrichment!
My congratulations to We Demand A Referendum and the clarity of their message, as they campaign for an informed debate, as a result of a Royal Commission which shows on an honest and cross party basis the cost benefits of membership of The EU, and a clear set of data on which to devise a Safe, sound and well planned Exit & Survival Strategy (No doubt under Article 50 of the EU constitution).
Then and only then can the peoples of these United Kingdoms vote in a straightforward IN / OUT manner.
To study the Tory Fresh Start one Starts Afresh to reaise it is a ‘device’ with two aims:
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To ensure that at an apposite moment Campbell and his team can announce they WILL hold a referendum on IN / OUT AFTER the General Election thus leaving UKIP (unsurprisingly) with no role, as ever, in domestic politics.
02. The other side of their coin is to work, through George EUstace and other sham EUroPlastics to provide one of the most corrupt and rigged votes in British history, on a par with the utterly dishonest Welsh Devolution vote which Labour LOST had they not undeniably rigged it!
The aim is an IN / OUT vote, BUT with huge funding from The EU, massive intervention from areas of big business who are so well protected by the EU red tape from any emergent business or level playing field for competition (ensuring that ALL the gravy on the gravy train is divied up amongst the usual suspects).
The IN vote will hold a codicil along the lines of:
‘Knowing that The Government will work hard to negotiate the very best deal they can with such powers as they can have repatriated do you wish to styay in the single market protected in the global economy when the New EU Constitution is agreed in 2016’
The codicil to the OUT vote will be along the lines of:
‘Do you wish to be OUT of the EU and denied the opportunity to influence the decision making of the largest market group in the world, and the protection it offers – exposed to the risks of being alone in a global market in a dangerous world?’
Yes that is the level of dishonesty to which the LibLabEUkipCon and their EU chums will sink to, you have seen the first round in cartoon form from Nuttall & Toby Young aided by The State broadcasters in the video above!
Do not forget Nigel Farage is a leader of The Pan EU EFD Group in the EU, a group that welcomes and advocates EU membership, merely seeking reform of certain details!
Nuttall and his chums come across as little more than crass, dishonest, self serving petty crooks and only Nikki Sinclaire has EVER spoken out as an elected UKIP MEP, against their corruption and acted on her principles and just look at the vile way they chose to attack and vilify her, even stooping to lies and attempted setups.
Good luck with the campaign Demanding A Royal Commission, and a fair and equitable debate, thereafter to decide a simple IN / OUT Referendum with equal funding, no hidden codicils, equal media coverage and absolutely no involvement of non UK citizens or their EU money.
Such a pity none of Jimmy Goldsmith’s family or children were big enough to wear his shoes. However let us not forget Jimmy Goldsmith was supping with the Devil as an MEP, and believed in EU membership!
Unlike Churchill who clearly stated that ‘ If the choice was between membership of EUrope and the open sea Britain was best served by taking to the open sea’!
I shall continue to campaign to leave the EU and will continue to do all I can to inform of the corruption of rascals like UKIP leadership clique and its claque.
Just as I will happily expose ANYONE who seeks to abuse the We Demand A Referendum Campaign for their own personal gain. Similarly I will seek to do my best to defend the principles and values I have held all my life and will support these who act honourably in the interest of OUR Country and its peoples of whatever creed, superstition or colour as held within the law.
I trust that honest men and women who actually support these United Kingdoms will do all they can to campaign for a Royal Commission, ensuring a clear answer to the cost benefit issue of EU membership and the drawing up of a simple plausible ‘Exit & Survival Strategy’ to then ensure a free, fair and informed equitable referendum of a simple IN /OUT.
The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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Nigel Farage: a one-man band?
An embarrassing question when posed by Michael Crick of Channel 4 News!
Particularly in the light of the simple answer and lack of any sign of professionalising UKIP to be fit for purpose!
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Hi,you may well have noted Michael Crick’s comments on UKIP and its conference in Birmingham City Hall and noted his refernce to Oswold Mosley and the arch traitor EU Commissioner Roy Jenkins who was charged with founding a pro EU political party in Britain ( the stench of which lingers on in the lies of Nick Clegg and his cronies) both were allumni of the platform in question also his.
It will also not have escaped your notice he calls Farage the ‘Dear Leader’ in allusion no doubt to the extremist and non democratic Korean leaders.The parade of has beens and any who will praise Farage has been notable at the conference – sad that the only converts are either elderly with their careers long finished, those dumped by the Tories like Roger Helmer & the Hamilton double act and the odd self serving councillor who has personal ambitions but seem to lack the abilities to gain selection with the Tories!
As a long term supporter of UKIP and possibly foolishly still in hope that it will be cleaned up and democratised sufficiently to be fit for purpose as there is no other party of any size representing the best interests of Britain and the wishes of the informed electorate to Leave-The-EU and its damaging and self serving Germanno Frankish axis of self interest and centralised undemocratic power, I commented on the internet as follows:
Hi,
as a long term supporter of the basic aim to Leave-The-EU I note Michael Crick’s damning of UKIP with faint praise and lampoon verging on ridicule – he is sadly right to do so.
UKIP was our best hope but the insecurity of their leader has led to an ever increasing power grab on his part and the eviceration of all intellectual rigor or any shining star of gravitas.
The nihilism of not polishing but polishing off stars has rendered the party unfit for purpose and led to a series of low grade nere do wells at the helm with a track record of criminality and even prison that places them beyon the pale.
That UKIP’s officers are all appointed on the grounds that they support Farage has made the party like a pyramid balanced on its head with Farage at its tip and garbage piled high on top of his undeniable talents as an entertainer.
It is easy for highly paid exploiters of the public purse to buils a small army of funded secret police funded by their ambitions and also pockets! UKIP has done this with a host of cowardly and anonymous defenders attacking anyone who dares speak out (as the duplicitous Marta Andreasen has shown and as Nikki Sinclaire has proved).
There is no doubt that UKIP is on the rise as from 3 or 4%, which is their average in domestic elec tions there is nowhere else to go but up! let us not forget with Roger Knappman as leader UKIP had its greatest breakthrough & almost 30,000 members.
UKIP with Farage is indeed striving to rise to those heady days yet his Junta has only managed, a claimed, 17,000 members and out of 19,500 seats in British politics has still not managed to get more than 30 by election and are no closer to having an MP elected than 15 years ago!
The main rise seen is the rise in income of those willing to back Farage and association with racists, criminals, anti Jewish, anti homosexual Holocaust deniers in the gutters of EU politics in the ‘gang’ Farage controls as a pan EU politician in the EFD Group where notably support for Anders Breivik was not heard but published and no action taken.
Sadly in being elected to The EU these small men have it seems been overwhelmed with greed and sold out on any ethics or principles rallying behind Farage’s foolish posturings and unparliamentary neme calling so reminiscent of the class failures who rallied behind the boy who made rude noises when teachers back was turned.
UKIP does indeed have HOPE of a future but as Marta Andreasen makes clear not as a dictatorship run by a one man band and those he has bought and paid for.
Regards, Greg_L-W.
At the moment I could not bring myself to vote for UKIP as the stench of racism, corruption, bullying, defamation, cowardice and self enrichment is too great.I have for some time advocated not spoiling ones ballot paper by sullying it with support for those on offer but rather stating ones own principles and writing on the ballot paper Leave-The-EU thus denying our self serving political elite the mandate they claim all be it only personally.
At the moment I am inclined to support Nikki Sinclaire’s initiative for a full, fair and equally funded IN / OUT Referendum but that is very much conditional on the support for a full Royal Commission and provision of a mature, intelligent ‘Exit & Survival Strategy’ when we Leave-The-EU – an aim I am assured Team Sinclaire are working towards.
Meanwhile I would commend all to pay particular attention to ‘The Harrogate Agenda’ and similar initiatives as without fundamental change in our system of Governance wehen we Leave-The-EU we will be no better off as self serving politicians will still be in a position to betray the electorate for their own party gain – Hence I have long advocated a far greater level of Independent representation rather than Parties acting on a mob handed self protective scam, again and again.
Your thoughts?
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Regards,
Greg_L-W..
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TO LEAVE THE EU
What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.
Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.
The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous!
To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!
Regards,
Greg L-W.
01594 – 528 337
PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS: ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!
I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:
Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.
Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples by the peoples of our Country.
It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.
UKIP Comes Out In Support of Campaign For A Referendum
Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!
The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
UKIP Comes Out In Support of Campaign For A Referendum!
Nigel Farage expresses support for an IN / OUT Referendum on BBC News on the first day of UKIP’s annual promotional conference!
CLEARLY any other policies would be prostituted to such a cause as he has stated he would join with either Tories or Labour if they promised such a referendum on a fair basis!
So much for all UKIP’s claims of having policies on many issues!
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Hi,
Good to see Team Sinclaire’s ‘Campaign for a Royal Commission‘ and subsequent informed, free, fair and equally funded and media promoted IN / OUT Referendum to ‘Let-The-People-Decide’ has moved Nigel Farage’s party to having to put an IN / OUT Referendum center stage, in interviews (BBC News this morning), on the first full day of their annual Farage feste/conference.I note UKIP’s most successful ever leader, the retired MEP & resigned ex Tory MP for Stroud, Roger Knappman has thrown his not inconsiderable weight behind Team Sinclaire together with the ex UKIP NEC member and leadership contender Del Young.
Katie Hopkins’ first political TV interview on the issue also went well, where Paul Nuttall volunteered the information that UKIP were indeed worried about the effect on their vote, and well they should be, having achieved virtually nothing of note since the success of Roger Knappman’s campaign of 2004 which raised membership to almost 30,000 and raise the number of MEPs to 12.
That UKIP needs to keep recruiting failed Tories and disafected old men, who have been dumped by the Tories, speaks volumes of their collapse – having failed to recruit ANYONE of any political or intellectual gravitas for a considerable time sadly but unsurprisingly.
That they have Finnish speakers and others on the EU gravy train speaking at their conference speaks volumes of their ‘values’, at a time where even their own MEPs concede they are failing and with liars & cheats who have betrayed their country like Derek Clark who was ordered to pay back 0ver £30,000 he hadtaken from the tax payers and then lied to his own Regional Committee and defamed both this blog and mine – it is the simple self serving criminality of UKIP that is called into question. not just their lack of intellectual rigour and ethics!
Let us face it, although it gets publicity, leaping up and down like an over sexed chihuahua with an ankle in sight, consorting with prostitutes, urinating in flower pots and copulating in the street has done UKIP’s credibility immense harm. As has the constant stream of childish abuse of anyone who dares criticise their views and antics shows clearly, in its defamatory and cowardly nature, just how intellectually challenged UKIP is and just how they have become a part of the problem with little relevance in the solution.
UKIP has made it clear that were it ever to gain power of ANY sort it would abuse legal processes, ignore the law, shelter behind the skirts of The EU, bully and abuse opponents and seek libertine rather than libertarian policies and rights! Employing its own secret police to enforce its will just as it uses the cowardice of anonymity amongst its protagonists.
Sadly UKIP in its present form neither uphold nor has values that I or anyone with any understanding of ethics or integrity would consider British and of value!
Insulting and defamatory parliamentary language and behaviour has moved UKIP from relevance to inconsequence – just as with the small boy who makes rude noises when teachers back is turned may gain the popularity of fools in the class but such showing off gains no reliable friends of any consequence!
For someone who has ambitions of being elected to the House of Commons, Nigel Farage seems to have remarkably little idea of what constitutes acceptable parliamentary behaviour. Since almost the dawn of time, “unparliamentary language” has been prohibited in most legislatures in the free world, even Canada. For Mr Farage then to confuse such constraints with restraints on freedom of speech rather says more about him than the EU Parliament. Had he been elected to the Commons and he had tried it on there, such behaviour would have had a similar response.
As for the results of the Farage party in domestic elections one need only consider the risible outcomes, where they still have less than 30 elected members of ANY significance out of 19,500 electable seats in British politics – it is hardly surprising that Marta Andreassen, who Nigel Farage cheated and lied about to get elected, published an open letter calling for Farage to resign due to the catastrtophic outcome of the local elections.
To this day in by elections their results do not even begin to measure up to the polls they much exploit, when in reality at the ballot box they achieve a pretty consistent 3-5% in the seats they are able to find candidates for!
One need only consider the appalling low grade, poor standard and transparent personal ambitions of those they do get elected to realise UKIP is not only no closer to representation at Westminster, which requires around 25%+ in a given seat, but would enhance their chances were they to dump some, if not most, of the dishonest, abusive low lifes they have in office, who bring UKIP into disrepute with depressing consistency!
UKIP’s over racism, anti homosexuality and willingness to collude and co-operate with those in the vilest of gutters in EUropean politics speaks volumes of the caliber and self image of UKIP and its sordid leadership team!
Let us hope the Campaign for a Royal Commission and Referendum to Let-The-People-Decide on a straightforward IN / OUT question equally funded with equal media coverage and promotion gains the support of all of UKIP’s members who value the right to self determination, whether UKIP’s leadership seek to destroy the campaign for their personal gain or jump on the band wagon built by Team Sinclaire is, like UKIP under its present leadership clique and its claque, a complete irrelevance!.
The Royal Commission will go a long way to provide a Responsible Exit & Survival Strategy which should have been drawn up and publicised by EVERY responsible main stream political party, as a contingency plan, long ago.
We heard Mervyn King on Channel 4 News clearly state that such a plan has been drawn up by The Bank of England for the contingency of The EUro collapsing! We know the unelected leaders of The EU believe that if the single currency collapses then they believe the entire social experiment may well collapse – Just where is Government’s contingency plan?
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Regards,
Greg_L-W..
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TO LEAVE THE EU
What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.
Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.
The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that goal of unanimity in aim!
To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!
Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62
PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS: ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!
I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:
Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.
Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples by the peoples of our Country.
It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.
another PRESS RELEASE has been distributed and early indications are that it will be used in a number of newspapers:
POLITICAL renegade Nikki Sinclaire MEP has launched a new party in an attempt to force the UK government to hold a referendum on Europe.
The 44-year-old rebel has launched the “We Demand A Referendum” movement with the sole manifesto of forcing a straight In-Out decision on the UK’s membership of the EU.
It comes on the heels of a startling YouGov opinion poll which revealed more than half of Britons wanted a referendum. “Call me a defector, call me a revolutionary, call me what you will – I’m simply following the will of the people who are demanding a referendum on Europe,” declared the Midlands MEP.
“This isn’t simply a new political party – this is movement– and it is one that David Cameron and the whole of Westminster must listen to, because we are speaking for the people.”
Sinclaire has delivered two petitions with 220,000 signatures to Number 10 – the most recent being only last week with the names of 100,000 people backing the call for some decision-making over the UK being in the European Union.
The MEP, who defected from the UK Independence Party to stand independently, was joined outside Number 10 by former The Apprentice star Katie Hopkins who will be enlisted as one of the first to stand as a We Demand A Referendum candidate in the 2014 elections.
It is expected the movement will have candidates for all 73 UK seats. “The government is frightened of asking the question of whether we want to be in Europe or not because they are afraid of the answer they may receive from the British public,” said Mrs Hopkins.
The coverage so far has been excellentm as has been the feedback from all except those who already earn their livings from our membership of the EU at the expense of the British tax payers, or hope to hop on the gravy train and get their snouts in the trough!
There are petty and utterly irrelevant attacks from these sad people who are in some cases miffed at not being invited as founder members or those who are riding other ‘band wagons’ or fence sitting with comments like ‘it will all be over in six months’ or trying desperately to belittle the incredible success Nikki Sinclaire and her team have had, both in getting almost 1/4 Million signatures and in getting the clear support of The Sun with both favourable articles and editorial support and praise.
Not to mention having already forced the government to hold a full debate on IN / OUT and a referendum already despite the spoiler efforts of copy cats and the efforts to demean her for having shown up their ineptitude, indollence and corruption.
I was amused to see the pornographer Paul Desmond on the one hand sacking his Irish manager for having capitalised, for him, on the childish and tasteless rather bad long range snaps of The Dutchess of Cambridge dishonestly (criminally) obtained by some low life in the meeeja whilst his sad little journalist on The Express, angles for his own place on the gravy train, by taking the UKIP’s desperate line surprises no one – well after all he is speaking at UKIP’s meeting this weekend (eg. CLICK HERE as are others who have expressed a desire to join the new campaign after the weekend!).
The message is simple and clearly there is no wish to be yet another tedious little party with a rag bag of so called policies that will NEVER be implemented.
The new organisatiopn delivers EXACTLY what it says on the tin – a ‘Campaign to hold a referendum’, a clear statement that ‘The referendum MUST follow a Royal Commission to ascertain the exact cost benefits of membership of The EU and the benefits and cost of leaving versus stying and THEN a referendum on a free, fair, equally funded, campaign based on the facts provided by the Royal Commission with equal media time, even from the State Broadcast & propaganda machinery of The BBC and others.
Let us never forget the huge bias of the media brought about by the irrefutable fact that The Government is not only in control but is also Britain’s largest supplier of leaks and stories but also the Country’s largest single advertiser able to manipulate the meeeja.
Any attempt to hold a referendum by any given political party announced now will of course be just a desperate effort to seize control from the electorate for their own gain and save face – we all know that 71% of the British electorate do not trust their own politicians relative to The EU.
We also had the misfortune of seeing the Irish peoples resoundingly betrayed by their own politicians and massively abused by the EU and its bullying propaganda lie machine!
There will be many attempts to sabotage this initiative by those working on behalf of The EU but do not forget that in a democracy one should ‘LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE’ and already we know that the majority of the electorate want an informed debate and a free, fair and unmanipulated referendum on IN / OUT relative to Britain’s undemocratic and anti Constitutional EU membership.
I note Liam Fox & The Express have jumped on the band wagon Nikki Sinclaire launched in The Sun the Express said: “The first party to come out and say that will earn the respect of voters. What are they all frightened of?” Meanwhile, independent Euro-MP Nikki Sinclaire yesterday confirmed plans for a new “We Demand a Referendum” party to fight every UK seat at the 2014 Euro-elections unless Mr Cameron offers an in-out vote.
In all fairness they did then state that they were following rather than leading and that the new campaign had rather stolen a march on any other attempts to catch-up when they said:
Former Apprentice contestant Katie Hopkins is lined up as a candidate in the South-west.
Her new party presents a headache for Mr Cameron, who will remember the damage inflicted on the Tories in 1997 by Sir James Goldsmith’s Referendum Party.
There are and have been others trying to build mailing lists and set up data bases using a referendum ‘claim’ to further their ambitions but none, other than Nikki Sinclaire’s team have ever delivered anything of any note despite using large amounts of public money, as with the fake campaign/petition by UKIP which failed to account for the £1/4 Million of tax payers money they seemingly trousered or the various back stabbing antics of ‘The peoples pledge’ and similar started off by Bridget Rowe and James Pryor with the funding of Toby Blackwell but eventually sabotaged by the actions of various Judas Goats The full details can be found at: CLICK HERE)
You will note the efforts at sabotage, that so clearly assisted the EU, and that Team Sinclaire refused to get involved in the selfish in fighting and continued to campaign right across Britain with her team, her ad vans and the only petition to date to deliver on the issue!
Edward Heath and his cronies lied and duped the peoples of Britain to allegedly vote for ratification of the Treaty of Rome and a Trading Relationship in the EUropean Economic Community and never since as they have sold out the people and our democracy with lies at OUR cost has there been any mandate granted by the peoples for the unlawful surrender of OUR democracy to a foreign and totally alien system of committee dictatorship centralised in the EU.
IF Britain is a democracy this new campaign will ensure a Royal Commission and an informed debate followed by a fully funded referendum on an agreed choice NOT some hole in the corner scam as organised by Heath etc. and warned against by Enoch Powell in detail on 25-Feb-1970 in Parliament see CLICK HERE
Yes of course there are risks in holding a Referendum and clearly the biggest risk is in EU propaganda and the lies and duplicity of our own enemy within – our own politicians and civil servants who have shown time and again that on issues related to The EU they are all too willing to lie, cheat and steal!
The other great risk is in doing nothing, as increasingly OUR country spins out of control to the malign spin of The EU – Hence a Royal Commission followed by an independent, free, fair and equally funded and promoted referendum is Britain’s best hope.
Without hard work and honest effort we may still loose, but Team Sinclaire has seized the nettle and shown us all the way forward, and for that, even if they eventually fail (which I believe unlikely), we ALL owe them a debt of gratitude and the political elite should now fear the electorate, rather than the electorate be in awe and fear of them, as has increasingly been the case in the ever more out of control police state they have been trying to build, for their own glory!
Nikki Sinclaire’s new group is not so much anti EU as pro democracy & believes a Royal Commission followed by a fully informed, free, balance and fair referendum is the ONLY way to ensure the voice of the people is heard and not just the self interest of corrupted politicians (bought & paid for from OUR taxes)!
Mainstream parties will be under threat at the ballot box in 2014 as the new movement attempts to tap into the strength of anti-EU feeling among British voters – claims MEP
The time has now come for the people of Britain to be given the chance to have a proper debate on one of the most important decisions the country must face – should we continue as an independent nation or be part of a single European state? Thousands upon thousands of people have signed our petition calling for an “in or out” referendum. Opinion poll after opinion poll continues to show that we – the ordinary people of the United Kingdom – want our say on the European Union.
Yet, for some reason, continuous governments have consistently and deliberately ignored our views on Europe with repeated excuses of why we should not have a referendum. Why are they so afraid of the people? Why won’t they let us decide? And why do they continue to patronise us with their ‘we know better’ attitude? We have thought long and hard about what our next step should be as a movement dedicated to making sure the people of Britain have a say in their future. So we have decided that to truly get the government to sit up and take notice, we must threaten them at the ballot box and show them the strength of public opinion on this issue.
After nearly two years of working as the Campaign for a Referendum, we now have more than 200,000 signatories and an army of constituency activists; the largest mobile network of supporters ever amassed for an EU referendum. Nothing this size has been seen since the Referendum Party and the late Sir Jimmy Goldsmith, whose pioneering baton was recklessly dropped after his death in 1997. So it is to this end that a new political entity has been established and registered with the Electoral Commission in Britain to represent the mainstream view that the UK should have the right to a referendum on its continued membership of the EU.
On September 13, we submitted the latest 100,000 signatures to 10 Downing Street. In doing so, we challenged British Prime Minister David Cameron and the government to enable an ‘in or out’ vote by 2014. The people must have the chance to vote for a referendum ahead of the next European elections in 2014. We are picking up this vitally important baton for the citizens of Britain and, this time, we will keep a firm grip on it until we have crossed the finishing line.
Candidates will stand under a united banner declaring: “We demand a referendum – let the people decide. They will share a single aim – to force a decisive referendum on the issue of Europe. We need to settle the debate once and for all. You might be asking why we are not simply endorsing an anti-Europe party in 2014. The answer is simple. It is because our campaign has, from the start, been completely politically neutral. In doing so, we have brought together people from across the political spectrum to achieve things that otherwise would not have been possible.
The importance of forcing a referendum is far bigger than any party. We strive to go beyond party politics, which is why it is important to let the people make decisions – not the politicians. It is up to us to honour our duty to do everything within our power to enable a referendum. We will have far greater success if we can first deliver the answer to the question that no other party is asking – do we want in, or out, of Europe? It is up to the citizens of the UK to decide.
Nikki Sinclaire is an independent MEP representing the West Midlands, in the United Kingdom, and spearheads the new political movement Let the People Decide
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