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Westminster Hall 05-Oct-2012

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/09/2012

Westminster Hall 05-Oct-2012#000* – HERE IS A TEMPLATE SHORT INDEX TITLE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Westminster Hall 05-Oct-2012

The Inaugural Conference of:
The Campaign For A Referendum
&
Let The People Decide.

We ARE entitled to
A ROYAL COMMISSION
& SELF DETERMINATION
on a fair & informed basis!

Will this be the NEW Campaigns British mascot:

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Hi,

let us be sure that the self serving, self enriching clowns at UKIP do not dishonestly try to claim any part in this venture and drag it down to their gutter level of politics.

The two petitions, which have far outstripped others of a similar nature, now have around 1/4 Million signatures and have already forced HMGov. to hold a full parliamentary debate – all this has been achieved by team Sinclaire by use of her own money, her own initiative and her legitimate expenses AND despite the efforts of UKIP leadership to block her and defame her at every chance in the most cowardly and underhand manner bringing shame on UKIP but failing to prevent her working to Leave-The-EU and let the people decide.

Think how much could have been achieved if UKIP had pulled its weight rather than dedicate itself to lies, cowardly attacks, dishonest anonymous self seekers and self enrichment for a few!

UKIP no longer has any relevance in British domestic politics as shown by their risible results in the local elections and general elections where they average out at about 3-5% of the vote when to gain seats one needs a fairly consistent 25% or about there as shown by the poor achievements of the LibDims who consistently get votes way higher than UKIP except in a few seats and a few irrelevant polls.

UKIP have shown they have no leadership abilities as they stumble along stuffing their pockets, their staff, their ad agencies and providing endless examples of the Dilbert principle.

Even their conference is dependent on ‘bringing in’ foreigners to explain – frankly who cares how Finland governs its little benighted nation – why would we care any more how Finland, Belgium, Denmark or the like are governed IT IS THEIR CHOICE!

Who cares what a middle aged EU lobbyist who makes their income from exploiting the EU has to say?

I don’t want the advice manufactured by a dishonest, libertine and corrupt screaming pervert in a press office nor the so called agency work of a highly strung well publicised libertine lass willing to lie and deceive to sleep her way around the beds of politicians old enough to be her father, nay even grandfather, to gain income and status at the public expense.

UKIP represents no British values that I would be proud to hold or uphold under its present utterly corrupt leadership clique and its claque.

This NEW initiative is NOT some kind of spoiler for UKIP as firstly its core is made up of people who want no part of being a broad based Political Party – they do NOT have ambitions to enrich themselves from the public purse – just look at howmany staff Nikki Sinclaire supports on her team as an MEP and compare it with the numbers and family members on UKIP’s staff!

Then consider the open transparency of Sinclaire’s accounts relative to the clandestine obfuscation of UKIP MEPs such as Farage where it is only via leaks and media exposure that the public get to hear of the obscene overpayment of Derek Clark’s resident drunk!

Or the theft of public money that was ordered repaid by criminals like Tom Wise and also Graham Booth, Jeffrey Titford, Nigel Farage, Derek Clark and no doubt others & of course the boasting of crimuinality by Tom Wise, Stuart Agnew and no doubt others.

Then of couyrse there is the plastic EUroSceptic Roger Helmer who is in it for all he can make even boasting to the meduia that he had made application to have his home repositioned by the EU so that he could milk off yet more travel expenses – little wonder he was so keen on supporting Tom Wise and has been ‘Swanning’ around rather than doing anything honourable – he is now of course part of the racist, anti homosexual, anti Jewish xenophobes in the gutter of EU politics with the pan EU EFD group which UKIP milks for all it can!

It was not until the media passed on the facts that UKIP members learned that Bloom was paying family and friends as staff nor that Farage was paying his wife Kirsten £30,000 a year and even his office didn’t know and didn’t know what ‘Work’ she did for UKIP for that money!

There is no doubt that the NEW Group uis NOT a spoiler for UKIP but UKIP have lied, che3ated and defamed Nikki Sinclaire and others to keep their own snouts in the EU trough where it is impossible to identify anything of note they have done in 20 years towards Leave-The-EU despite the many £Millions of public money they have trousered!

We hear from leaks that despite an incredibly generous PRIVATE HEALTH scheme for MEPs Nigel Farage had the cheek to stick members of UKIP (many of whom are unemployed and pensioners) with his health bills when he was in an accident and even set out to claim every penny he could from Justin Adam’s insurance for the ACCIDENT!

Funny how UKIP & the public purse fund his stupidities but when he wins anything it seems to wind up in his personal pocket and overseas bank accounts!

The NEW group is campaigning for a Referendum based on a level playing field, input to the questions, A Royal Commission and THEN Let The People Decide.

The NEW group is NOT a challenge to UKIP because UKIP is clearly only interested in the self enrichment of their so called leadership clique and the support of their claque.

Good luck to the NEW initiative.

Those of us who actually want to Leave-The-EU have every reason to aid and support the NEW initiative – those who want to play politics and try to get their snouts in the troughs on the gravy train are and should be better served by UKIP.

Meanwhile other serious initiatives like The Harrogate Agenda plod on with hard work and little reward on the way to their set agenda and also deserve our support.

You will have noted that the NEW Group’s inagural conference is scheduled for 11:00hrs. on 05-Oct-2012 at The Westminster Hall.

Let us all hope that team Sinclaire will receive the support they deserve for their efforts to date.

I gather the NEW group welcomes the membership & support of anyone eligible to vote in these United Kingdoms, but precludes those who have held office or have been candidates for extremist parties, including those who espouse racism, xenophobia, violence and anti homosexual or anti creed doctrines tantamount to hate crimes!

And rightly so in my opinion.

All I can say is GOOD LUCK in this bold effort to work to Leave-The-EU.

Yes I know there are risks in holding a referendum especially for the faint hearted 😉

Yes we know thst ‘Turkeys don’t vote for Christmas’ nor Islam choose pigs for banquets!

However I believe team Sinclaire are ensuring the issues are kept alive, looking for sound thought out ‘Exit & Survival Strategies’ and seeking to ensure equal funding and equal media time for the YES & the NO campaign with an agreed question and based on the outcome of a Royal Commission – We all know, and 71% of the electorate doi not trust OUR OWN politicians on matters EU, yes we know the pro EU membership will lie, cheat and hugely overfund their campaign via drafting in armies of EU apparatchicks as they did in Ireland and pouring money in in clandestine manner as they do.

The EU squanders £Billions of OUR money to desperately try to sell us their sordid experiments and scams – They will cheat their propaganda spend is almost unlimited!
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Regards,

Greg_L-W..

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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.
Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that goal of unanimity in aim!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS: ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

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