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THATCHER, Baroness Margaret Hilda – IN MEMORIAM

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/04/2013

THATCHER, Baroness Margaret Hilda – IN MEMORIAM
Born: Roberts 13-Oct-1925 – Died 08-Apr-2013 Aged 87
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IN MEMORIAM

THATCHER, Baroness Margaret Hilda

nee: Roberts

Born:13-Oct-1925 – Died 08-Apr-2013

Aged 87

THATCHER, Margaret Hilda
DEATH CERTIFICATE

Thatcher hailed for changing political landscape of the world

World leaders remember Margaret Thatcher

as woman of indisputable resolve & patriotism

Mon, Apr 8 2013
Member of the European Parliament, Nikki Sinclair, places a floral tribute outside the home of former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher after her death was announced in London April 8, 2013. REUTERS-Suzanne Plunkett
An Admirer of Maggie Thatcher
Places a floral tribute at Baroness Thatcher’sLoved or loathed in death as in life, Margaret Thatcher left no one indifferent, finding some of her most ardent admirers among her political opponents.

Very few leaders get to change not only the political landscape of their country but of the world. Margaret was such a leader,” said the odious and self serving Tony Blair, the centre-left Labour leader who brought his own party back to power not least by heeding the lessons of “Thatcherism“.

Mikhail Gorbachev, the Soviet leader whom she famously declared she could “do business with”, said their mutual understanding “contributed to a change in the atmosphere between our country and the West and to the end of the Cold War“.

Thatcher’s warm relations with Gorbachev’s direct adversary, U.S. president Ronald Reagan, and their shared espousal of the free market and individual liberty, along with her readiness to provide a base for U.S. nuclear missiles, gave Britain greater influence in Washington than it has normally enjoyed.

“The world has lost one of the great champions of freedom and liberty, and America has lost a true friend,” said U.S. President Barack Obama.

Here in America, many of us will never forget her standing shoulder to shoulder with President Reagan, reminding the world that we are not simply carried along by the currents of history – we can shape them with moral conviction, unyielding courage and iron will.

Pope Francis recalled, with appreciation, “the Christian values which underpinned her commitment to public service and to the promotion of freedom among the family of nations“.

At home, Conservatives mourned the leader who set a free-market agenda in Britain and Europe and famously announced “there is no such thing as society” as she put individual enterprise and self-reliance before the state and the social safety net.

David Cameron, the prime minister who led the Conservatives back to power but without the absolute majority Thatcher enjoyed throughout her premiership, said: “We’ve lost a great prime minister, a great leader, a great Briton.

As our first woman prime minister, Margaret Thatcher succeeded against all the odds, and the real thing about Margaret Thatcher is that she didn’t just lead our country, she saved our country. And I believe she’ll go down as the greatest British peacetime prime minister.

THATCHER AND THE EU

Thatcher is remembered in Britain for resisting the idea that the European Union should move ever closer to political union, but, at a time when Britain is once again agonising over its role in Europe, EU leaders much keener on closer integration had warm words for her.

The unelected European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said “she would be remembered both for her contributions and her reserves to our common project“:

She signed the Single European Act and she helped bring about the single market. She was a leading player also in bringing into the European family the central and eastern European countries which were formerly behind the Iron Curtain.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel, a fellow conservative who grew up in communist East Germany and went on like Thatcher to become the first woman to head her country’s government, said:

The freedom of the individual was at the core of her convictions; in that sense Margaret Thatcher recognised the strength of the movements for freedom of eastern Europe early on and stood up for them.

“Margaret Thatcher was not a women’s politician – but by asserting herself as a woman in the highest democratic office at a time when this was not yet a given, she was an example to many.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thatcher was “a pragmatic, tough and consistent person” and that these qualities had enabled her to help pull Britain out of economic crisis, for which people should be grateful despite the criticism she faced.

Putin, who once called the 1991 breakup of the Soviet Union “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century“, said Russiawill always be thankful” for the contribution Thatcher made to British-Soviet and British-Russian ties.

It was left to Vaclav Klaus, former Czech prime minister and president and a self-proclaimed “Thatcherite”, to set her vision against Europe’s current crisis. He said the European Union’s ailing economic and social model was “exactly what she, as the first woman in the post of British prime minister, fought against since the end of the 1970s“.

Her voice is also missing in today’s discussion on European integration,” Klaus added. “Many of us will never forget her famous speech in Bruges, where she clearly said that the suppression of nation states and concentration of power in Brussels will destroy Europe.

LINGERING RESENTMENT

But there were plenty of voices in Britain ready to express the resentment that still lingers against a woman who broke the power and self serving scams of the trade unions, ran down or privatised many subsidised and heavily loss making state-run utilities and institutions and eroded the excesses of post-war welfare state.

Margaret thatcher halted the downward slide of Britain into a quasi Communist and anarchic control by Union blackmail & Labour’s economic illiteracy and missrule. Sadly it was largely little more than a delay as so often happens a stron leader can break a party by failure to consider the future leaving weak and incompetent leadership and structures behind them.

Betrayed by the personal ambitions of low grade rivals incompetent to take on the leadership role like Hesseltine, Major and the like we suffered the open door for 13 unlucky years of dishonest, corrupt, economic incompetent self serving New Labour ambitions and lies, war crimes and betrayal.

Margaret Thatcher, an enlarger of British freedom

By Sir Harold Evans
Sir Harold Evans

Sir Harold Evans is editor-at-large at Reuters. He was the editor of The Sunday Times for fourteen years, and is the author of two best-selling American histories, as well as two memoirs about his experience in the media business.
Original article published at CLICK HERE
April 8, 2013

My immediate and lasting  memory of Mrs. Thatcher — Maggie as we called her — is sitting next to her in the late sixties at a dinner table as she scorched a bunch of City of London financial types. I was astonished. She wasn’t yet the Iron Lady. She wasn’t  in government. Labour was in power. She was  an obscure back bench Conservative MP, elected only in 1959, noticed in those sexist days (has much changed?) as much for her hats and aggressive hair style as for  her passionate defence of grammar schools under threat of closure from Labour.

What she did with the City of London men  was later characterised as a  “hand-bagging.” A black Asprey bag she always carried was metaphorically wielded against people she saw as standing in the way of the greatness of Britain as Boudica, the leader of a British tribe, wielded a lance against the Roman occupiers. I suppose that as a new national editor (of The Sunday Times), and with normal male presumption , I had expected to lead the questioning of the ten or so big names and the table. I didn’t stand a chance. Maggie pounded and pummeled them all by herself for an hour. I can’t pretend this is verbatim but it went something like this: “All you people are interested in is moving paper around, making money not things. What are you doing for British industry? When are you going to help business stand up to  the unions?”  They murmured, they shuffled, they were outclassed. British elections — six weeks to  a vote and no paid television ads — have never been as corrupted by money as much as American, so she was not turning off a potential source of funding as an American candidate would fear to do. Still these were  men — all men of course  — who were influential and articulate and used to reverence not rebuke.

Maggie could be seductive in private conversation one on one, more so as she matured,  the strident voice of the public halls giving way to a softer, more seductive style, hand on an arm, intent eye to eye in persuasion. She was afraid of nobody, respecter of no convention she considered archaic. The British custom at dinner parties was always for the host to murmur “coffee?” which was signal for “the ladies” to leave for the powder room while the men, over cigars and port, got down to serious business. It was  a small sensation — regarded in some circles as a grave breach of etiquette — when at a dinner party I attended thrown by her egregious confidante Woodrow Wyatt, Maggie stayed in her seat unabashed, uninvited,  and unfazed by the  arguments over the cigars (in this case by a couple of captains of industry who wanted to be part of Europe and she defiantly raised the Union Jack).

The trade unions at the time were busy wreaking havoc on industry. The far left had infiltrated Labour constituencies; Labour candidates were as scared of the militants then as primary Republicans of the Tea Party candidates today.  Local union chiefs called wildcat strikes, disrupted production.  The union movement, with some Labour ministers in support, threatened a closed shop in the press which would have curtailed free speech. I’d spoken out against it as had the  then editor of The Guardian, Alastair Hetherington. At another of those endless London dinners where Maggie  was the speaker and still not in government,  she referred to me as “one of us.” I wasn’t. I was just expressing a view on an issue. We had many things in common, both from the north, both educated in state schools, both brought up in a grocer’s shop, in my case one my mother started, in hers one her father ran. I admired her.  I was one of the millions of voters in the 1979  general election  which put her into power as the first woman prime minister. The country  was in dreadful shape, fearful and anxious during a winter of discontent in which trade union militants blocked cancer patients getting treatment and garbage piled up in  the center of London.

She saved Britain from anarchy and immediately restored a sense of purpose. She could be rough. As Prime Minister,  she had a limited tolerance for dissent and an infinite regard for personal loyalty. If you were not with on her everything, she  regarded you as disloyal, as unreliable, lacking conviction.  I suppose it was the reverse mirror of her indomitable courage. How valiant she was when the IRA terrorists blew up her conference hotel; they tried to murder her and almost succeeded.  She was often vindicated. She was impatient with excuses for inertia and woolliness — vividly represented  in Meryl Streep’s representation of her cutting off a Cabinet member in mid speech.  I disappointed her by giving space in The Times  to critics, especially one of them, Edward Heath,  whom she’d ousted as Prime Minister. The imperatives of news meant we published  news stories she didn’t like: she’d  sunk in the polls and recession deepened. Relations became a little chillier. As an editor, I’d never sought to cosy up  to political leaders,  but I now understand more of what she was up against – the Tory snobs in the counties,  the plotters in the party who eventually betrayed her, the “wets” and the “wimps”  who would yield on a principle she considered vital.

When she became Prime Minister I was editor of The Times. We backed her a hundred per cent on trade union reforms, on holding the line on pay, especially in the public sector and  on advocating more competition in the banking industry, on free trade, on resisting terrorism in Northern Ireland. I told her I  thought she moved too slowly against trade union anarchy, but she bided her time and planned well.   She won a famous victory against the coal miners, badly led by a firebrand who took money from Gaddafi, and it was thanks to her stalwart support  of Rupert Murdoch, whom she admired as a free-booting entrepreneur , that he was able to win the battle of Wapping which ended the guerilla warfare of the print unions.

Margaret Thatcher, whatever the missteps, will  take her place in the pantheon of heros – sorry, heroines – who enlarged British freedom.

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UKIP, Farage, Fuller & Lies About Moroccan Taxis!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 05/04/2013

UKIP, Farage, Fuller & Lies About Moroccan Taxis!

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The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

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UKIP, Nigel Farage, Annabelle Fuller, John Wittacker, Paul Nuttall & Lies About Moroccan Taxis give a clear insight into the corrupt administration of UKIP and show just why they are unfit for purpose as they betray British values acting without ethics or morality!

Sadly, in real life, all too often corruption and dishonesty are rewarded at the expense of the decent and the innocent!

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it was interesting to note Dr. Eric Edmond’s timing of this item of UKIP history, which in the main he has reported accurately, though with less conviction than the proven facts permit and indicate!
For further details and more extensive facts on this issue and the criminal behaviour of Annabelle Fuller under data protection laws and the clear involvement of Nigel Farage, Paul Nuttall, John Wittacker and others in the efforts to cover up UKIP’s involvement in the crime do search this web blog and also Team Junius’ blog.
Many of the lies told about John West in efforts to defame him and to protect Nigel Farage’s unprincipled and unstable doxy are made more clear and accurately recorded!

Wednesday, 3 April 2013

UKIP, Farage and Moroccan taxis

This all happened around 5 years ago. In the intervening period a whole new generation of UKIP activists and wannabee candidates have joined UKIP. It is for those newcomers like Mrs James that I write. Why? It is the same cabal that runs UKIP today that was running UKIP 5 years ago. We are also in the same period in the European MEP electoral cycle now as were 5 years ago when I participated in the process in the SW region.

UKIP members who wished to go on the 2009 SW MEP slate were interviewed by a small sub committee of 3 all of whose members were fanatical Farage supporters especially the late Malcolm Wood who was the SW RO. They drew up a short list of 10 candidates who participated in four hustings organised by Wood and spread across the region. (Wood also organised speaking engagements at the biggest branches for William Legge alone.) The members then voted on a ranked vote system  ending with Trevor Colman first and Legge second. Really very democratic compared to what will happen in 2014 when candidates will be chosen at the last minute solely by Mr Farage

As part of the short listing process we all had a recorded TV tough media interview with Clive Page UKIP’s then press officer Clive Page. I well remember mine. Clive pulled an old trick at the start stating UKIP were the fourth and smallest UK party. I picked Clive up on that pointing out that in the previous 2004 Europeans UKIP had come third polling more votes than the LibDems! Afterwards Clive told me it was only me and Farage who had picked up his little journalistic trick. Did not say much for how clued up the rest were!

All these interviews were stored on Annabelle Fuller’s laptop computer so Farage could see how possible candidates had performed in a simulated media interview. There was no other copy of these interviews. These interviews were to be totally confidential for this use only.

An Eastern region activist, John West, had done one of these interviews which was held on Fuller’s laptop. West was shocked to find his interview had been posted on Facebook with the horrible head line, “How not to do politics”. This was public for all to see and obviously designed to humilate and ridicule John West.  An investigation traced the posting of this interview to Morroco. Ms Fuller likes to holiday in Morocco.

Del Young, David Abbott and I then on the NEC were detemined to get to the bottom of this. We were not able to interview Ms Fuller which is what we wanted to do but we were given the foolowing taxi tale. Ms Fuller claimed she had left her Laptop in a London taxi. It had been missing for two days. Then Ms Fuller claims it was returned to her London address by the taxi driver who had discovered her address by looking at files stored on the Laptop so he must have posted West’s confidential interview on the web.

I thought it was a cock and bull story. Whittaker, then UKIP chairman, would not take it further but did tell Del Young that Ms Fuller would no longer be allowed to be involved with UKIP.

Fast forward 5years and who was very visible at Eastleigh but Annabelle Fuller. Junius has recently published some emails that seem to show Ms Fuller is not over enamoured of Mrs James.

The unanswered question is why John West’s interview out of the 100 plus interviews done was selected for public consumption?  John was a popular and very active in the Eastern region just like Mrs James is today in the Southern region.    

Plus ca change plus c’est la meme chose, Mrs James. Tread carefully. I opine there never was a Morrocan taxi driver and as London cabbies are required to hand in all property left in their taxi to the police within 24 hours there is a missing 24 hours so I am unconvinced there was even a London cabbie.

I have no doubt UKIP will do very well in the 2014 European possibly even come top of the poll. What concerns me is who these MEPs will be.  Andreasen and Bannerman were Farage approved candidates. I predict that there will be more A & Bs who will gain the Fuerher’s blessing with the same results. This will be a continuous drain on UKIP that eventually in the inevitable tight election or referendum to leave the EU may prove fatal to our cause.

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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.

They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then  still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

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PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS: ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.

Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!

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UKIP Hypocrisy Over Its Racist Behaviour

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/04/2013

UKIP Hypocrisy Over Its Racist Behaviour
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UKIP Hypocrisy Over Its Racist Behaviour!!

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Ex-National Front man stands as UKIP candidate in Kent

The Chairman of UKIP Thanet South branch, the ex Prison Officer Martyn Heale, was a former National Front branch organiser in Hammersmith in the late 1970s and a NF candidate in the London borough of Hammersmith in the 1979 local elections. Heale later resigned from the National Front and became Chairman of the West London branch of the extreme far-Right, anti-immigration New Britain Party. HEALE was also election agent for Nigel Farage.

UKIP claims to debar all former members of extreme right wing groups from holding any office and standing as candidates. UKIP has not always stood by this ruling. One man who was at the forefront of a previous political scandal is again standing for UKIP. Nigel Farage can not claim ignorance twice!

Martyn Heale is chairman of UKIP South Thanet and is standing as a UKIP candidate in the upcoming Kent County Council on May 2nd 2013. He is also the former organiser of the Hammersmith branch of the National Front in the late 1970s, standing as a National Front candidate in the local elections of 1979.

In the 2005 General Election, Martyn Heale was Nigel Farage’s election agent! Having previously acted for the discreditted ex Tory criminal Jonathan Aitken.

HEALE, Martyn - Thanet Times 12-Oct-2004

Thanet Times 12-Oct-2004

HEALE, Martyn - Thanet Times 114-Sep-2004

Thanet Times 14-Sep-2004

HEALE, Martyn - Thanet Times 17-Sep-2004

Thanet Times 17-Sep-2004

This brings into question the ethics and sincerity of UKIP and the pretence that UKIP is squeaky clean regarding racism and allowing former members of extreme right wing parties, including the National Front and the British National Party, into UKIP as office holders and candidates.
UKIP has made much of banning ex members of extremist parties yet has in its own ranks many such extremists! Including, not just, BNP & National Front Members but members of such organisations as New Britain and senior members who have colluded with extremist and racist organisations as with UKIP’s MEP Gerard Batten who has spoken in support of race hatred against Islam and published hate pamphlets in his capacity as a UKIP MEP in support of his own superstitions!
Other placements in UKIP can be noticed as in that of Mike Read who used, some years ago, to be a radio DJ and children’s presenter who is to be placed as a leading candidate in the EU elections as an MEP, also the sometime DJ and ‘shock jock’ John Gaunt who is to be the lead MEP candidate in the West Midlands having just joined UKIP, a position he has been angling for for some time as a career change.
Then of course there is the discreditted Tory sleaze symbol Neil Hamilton.
All of these are well aware of the racism of UKIP and their support for extremists through their shameful membership of the EFD Group which harbours some of the most sordid and extreme politicians in The EU and politicians with a track record of criminality, extreme racism, anti homosexuality, anti Judaism, Muslim race hatred and violence as a policy.
UKIP’s endless protestations of not being racist are just not born out by the facts though it seems it has duped many less well informed individuals often with outright lies and one wonders how militant anti racist and politically correct organisations like ‘Hate Not Hope’ have been duped!
UKIP’s pretence at blocking racists is further undermined when one notes they include in their list of organisations barred from UKIP (which is NOT enforced!) the organisation The UKFirstParty who were neither extreme nor racist and seem only to be banned for having the core aim of a more purist withdrawal stance than UKIP’s participation in the EU scam and efforts to reform it!

More a matter of petty spite than political judgement even when UKIP honours its own pretences. UKIP’s stance is hypocricy writ large with its endless list of racist positions and a track record of aiding racists consider:

Tory MEP sparks UKIP outrage by “dragging up patent rubbish” of Farage’s alleged racist outburst

3 April 2013 | By Asa BennettNigel Farage

 A Tory MEP has come under vicious attack from UKIP for posting “patent rubbish” on Facebook in repeating alleged racist statements made by UKIP leader Nigel Farage.

Writing on his Facebook page on Tuesday morning, Tory MEP Sajjad Karim quoted remarks allegedly made by Farage when speaking to UKIP founder Dr Alan Sked. Karim posted: “More relevations. ‘We will never win the nigger vote, the nig-nogs will never vote for us’ – Nigel Farage to UKIP founder Alan Sked, who abandoned the party over its adoption of far-right ideologies”.

Sajjad Karim MEP's Facebook post on Tuesday 2nd April

Source: Facebook

Sajjad Karim MEP’s Facebook post on Tuesday 2nd April

UKIP founder Dr Sked reported Farage’s alleged statements in 2005, when speaking to the Mail on Sunday, adding that the party was “racist” and “infected by the far right”.

A UKIP spokesperson told LondonlovesBusiness.com that Karim was “dragging up patent rubbish”.

“These allegations, from a very bitter man, about a non-existent conversation that didn’t happen many years ago, have been comprehensively denied many, many times. I wonder why a Tory MEP, likely to lose his seat next year, is dragging up such patent rubbish? Anybody who knows Mr. Farage at all knows that this is ludicrous, arrant tosh,” he said.

Meanwhile, a spokesperson for Karim refused to be drawn on the Tory MEP’s reasoning behind posting Farage’s reported remarks, but said that it was “part of a cross-party agenda to expose UKIP for what they actually are”.

“They are committing a fraud on the British people in that they have representatives democratically elected into the European Parliament but they’re not there to do the job they’re elected to, because they want to see an end to the EU,” she added.

In response to UKIP’s attack, Karim took to Facebook to write: “oh really………!!! LOL!….Bring it on Farage – we’re ready for you in the north west.”

Sajjad Karim MEP's UKIP response

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Sajjad Karim MEP’s UKIP response

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It is unfortunate that for all the bluster UKIP are in no position to silence such criticism and some may recal Farage’s outburst in a bar in Strasbourg captured on video by Mr. Sajjad Karim MEP, we were told at the time, when Farage was forcibly removed by his own hangers on! 
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Ian GILLMAN’s Position is clearly dishonest & dishonourable

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/04/2013

 

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It seems he has lost the plot and clearly is unable to substantiate his own apparent fantasies!

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it is sad that I now find myself in the position of realising that Ian Gilman, who gave UKIP much service in its early days, albeit in a somewhat ill considered manner, he seems to have developed the weasel like tendencies of sneaking up on the unsuspecting and snipping at their heels.
Do note the following posting in the public domain of a UKIP controlled Forum:
Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gillman View Post
The Junius-Chris Pain-GLW axis have threatened to release filthy and lurid e-mails pertaining to a Miss Annabelle Fuller who may be employed by UKIP and work for Mr Farage, the leader.
Thus a deliberate attempt to damage the leader and the party is intended, but; we are told not before an attempt to offer it first to mainstream media for salacious columns.
Having been called upon by a Moderator on the said forum to provide proof or appologise for his lies we note Ian Gillman has proved unable to show his provenance for his allegations.
Therefor again I believe Ian Gillman to be untrustworthy, ureliable and dishonest.
Consider:

From: Greg Lance – Watkins <greg_l-w@btconnect.com>

Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:10:45 +0000

To: REDACTED

Subject: re: Gilman’s dishonesty.

 

Hi,

REDACTED – sorry to bother you BUT!

Here is the opening of a post by Ian Gilman:

‘The Junius-Chris Pain-GLW axis have threatened to release filthy and lurid e-mails pertaining to a Miss Annabelle Fuller who may be employed by UKIP and work for Mr Farage, the leader.
Thus a deliberate attempt to damage the leader and the party is intended, but; we are told not before an attempt to offer it first to mainstream media for salacious columns.’

As it is wrong on seemingly every count perhaps you would call for his apology or his proof.

The Junius-Chris Pain-GLW axis

Since he has no clue as to the identity of those who work as ‘Junius’ this is pure speculation.

Further I have never met Pain nor am I overly impressed with his unprofessional behaviour that he bores all and sundy with his over egged fantasies about Geoffrey Collier though those re Gilman seem justified!

I happen to KNOW that Pain does not know who Junius is and nor does Geoffrey Collier!

have threatened to release filthy and lurid e-mails pertaining to a Miss Annabelle Fuller

Please show where I have so threatened – it is a lie!

who may be employed by UKIP and work for Mr Farage,

Not MAY but does as recorded officially and also employed as Athena as also proven.

the leader.

Moot point!!!
Thus a deliberate attempt to damage the leader and the party is intended,

RUBBISH this is a lie as my aim, as a supporter of UKIP’s aim to Leave-The-EU as held by its grass roots members, is clearly shown to be to make every effort to clean up the party and professionalise it to make it fit for purpose which with the present level of banal and self seeking squabbling and its racism etc. it clearly is not.

but; we are told not before an attempt to offer it first to mainstream media for salacious columns.

Rather than use long words beyond his education he might care to look up salacious and also where I or Junius have ‘OFFERED’ the material to media. That I have been approached directly for the information for a serious political documentary is a different matter.

Thanks,

Greg_L-W.

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Ian Gillman was asked to substantiate his fictitious rantings some days ago and to date has failed to either substantiate his dishonesties nor be man enough to apologise for his lies.

It does rather look, on the same forum, as if Ian Gillman has duped the well meaning Geoffrey Collier into being the standard bearer for the sad spectacle of Gillman’s embittered and wild claims.

May I publicly urge cation to Mr. Collier for he would not be the first person to be hoist on Gillman’s petard!

That I hear from contacts the Sean Howlett is also remeaning UKIP and making it look even nore serious in its idiotic complaints to Hertfordshire Police where he lays claim and complaint thaty Junius, and for good measure in oassing myself, are guilty under the data protection act of publishing confidential eNails and comments from various public sources.

Just think what a shambols these dweebs would make of any responsible role they ever achieved with their risible pretence to being Libertarian where in reality they have hidden themselves to make themselves a coffee!

Just how stupid are these foolish oi pretend politicians as they strive to do something right for the sake of their cattle! It is not just the total lack of underastanding of the law and the willingness to waste Police time with their vicious efforts at central control in contradiction of Libertarianism, which makes UKIP members look so utterly foolish!

Since I have made a point of accurately posting facts and clearly defining opinion on my blog and even someone as foolish as the little Sean Howlett knows that it is I who publish my blog we must hope, since he can provide no other facts as he knows none that are relevant – let us hope he has saved them time by providing them with my phone number so that I can, as with the3 dishonest claims of Gerard Batten and others show just how rizzible are UKIP leadership team!

There will of course be some polic3e who are so irresponsible and lacking in a sense of duty that they may even visit to be told they are making fools of themselves and have been set up by UKIP based on false information.

I wonder where Sean Howlett has admonished the police to go to interview Junius!!! For it is certain the foolish little man hasn’t a clue who Junius is any more than do the leadership of UKIP!

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Extremists Seek To Corrupt Democratic Freedom

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Extremists Seek To Corrupt Democratic Freedom as apparent Labour supporters carry out a vitriolic campaign against Freedom of Speech!
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that there is no doubt that many in UKIP are racist and as a party their leadership do much to endorse racism, anti Judaism, anti Semitism in their Zionist opposition to Palestine and Palestinians, superstition based incitement to racial hatred, anti homosexuality and more – Under no circumstances should the right to Freedom of Speech be curtailed within the framework of the law.
The poster that extremists in Manchester are protesting at is in no way racist, it is a statement of factual opinion that seeks to limit immigration from the EU – immigration imposed upon Britain without any meaningfull democratic process by the dictatorial centerist agenda of The EU.Laws have been enacted against the interests of Britain that have led to an unprecedented invasion of Britain, unmatched in percentage terms even by conquest in our history.

Britain has never seen such a cultural invasion since 54BC when we were overun by the Roman army – even when Cnutt invaded or William The Bastard no similar percentage of aliens invaded with them!

Let us remember that the very people who are clamouring to impose their will and threatening to break the law by the use of vandalism and violence to force the removal of the awareness posters from UKIP, would be the first to protest their rights under The UN Charter which determines a fundamental human right to self determination – a concept totally ignored by the undemocratic EU whose imposed laws these extremists seek to uphold in contravention of both the basic right of Self Determination and of Freedom of Speech.

Do I agree with the overt racism and support for racists of UKIP and the answer is catagorically no and I find every aspect of the vile prejudice of Batten, Bloom, Pearson, Farage and their undeniable support for racism as repugnant – I see absolutely no acceptable reason to prostitute UKIP and the values of the British peoples to their level of extremism and support for extremists.

Support for The EFD & Bloom’s Pan EU Alliance is odious and unacceptable whilst Batten’s overt incitement to racial hatred and allegiance with the EDL and other extremists based only on his chosen superstitions is utterly repugnant – as is the Zionist extremism and anti foreigner behaviour and views of Malcolm Pearson, as featured in a double page media spead some time ago!

Let us hope that the advertising agency ‘Clear Channel’ has rather more morality and the ethics to stand their ground against the likes of the anti democratic blackmail of the odious campaigners against Freedom of Speech, Opinion and Thought as they have manifest in Manchester!

Free speech under threat as advertising company “agrees” to remove UKIP poster

Clear Channel, one of the largest advertising companies in the UK, has reportedly agreed to stifle free political expression by removing a UKIP poster

by The Commentator on 29 March 2013 20:03

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Just hours after a new UKIP poster ad was spotted in Levenshulme, Manchester, a trade unionist-led campaign to have the advertisement removed has apparently led to success, in what opponents have called “a sad day for freedom of speech”.

Campaigners online are boasting about the impending removal of a UK Independence Party poster positioned in “deep-red Labour territory”.

The poster which reads, “Stop Open Door EU Immigration: Enough’s Enough” has recently been posted in Levenshulme, an area of Manchester populated by around 12,000 people. Described as a ‘multi-ethnic’ area, Leveshulme has a significant immigrant population, with 2001 census figures showing a high Asian population, though little suggests a high EU-immigrant population.

The self-described trade unionist and socialist claiming responsibility for the campaign goes only by the name of “Sue” on Twitter. Her handle is BinTheConDems, a name suggesting the trashing of the Conservative (Con) and Liberal Democrat (Dems) coalition government in the UK.

Over the past few hours, “Sue” has called UKIP members “Nazis” and “racists”, and claimed that she and others, “Just got an ad company to take down a UKIP poster where we live. After mass emails and calls from community”.

At around 6pm, “Sue” tweeted, “Levenshulme email and phone call fast campaign means vile #UKIP poster being removed from high street.” 

Campaigners also threatened to vandalise the poster themselves if their demands weren’t met, with one, Rachamuffin, tweeting, “Which one of us has a ruddy big ladder. I’ve got paint and a head for heights!” While others continued, “Actually we don’t need a ladder, just a catapult and paint bombs”.

The story will cause great concern to freedom of speech campaigners as the targeting of a particular political party and a legitimate campaign runs contrary to freedom of expression in the UK. Political parties in the UK are not precluded from advertising on billboards, with the decision over content effectively being left to the company selling the advertising space, in this instance, Clear Channel. 

Clear Channel is one of the largest advertisement-space networks in the UK, boasting work with more than 300 local authorities in the UK and a workforce of over 5,000 internationally.

A UKIP spokesperson told The Commentator, “There is no evidence to support claims that Clear Channel have agreed to remove any posters. However, if it is true, and I hope it’s not, then bowing to extremist, censorious demands like this would make it a sad day for freedom of speech indeed.”

The row comes on the back of a spate of recent UKIP defections, and UKIP’s rise in national polls as of late. 

In November last year, a couple in Rotherham were reported to have been discriminated against when adopting a child because of their support for UKIP. The decision was branded by senior cabinet member Michael Gove MP as, “indefensible“.

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Updated – 21:58 29/03/13: Clear Channel has been in touch with The Commentator to state that no decision has yet been taken on the billboards, despite local campaigners stating the contrary. A Clear Channel spokesperson told The Commentator that the company will be reviewing complaints from both sides and taking a decision after the Bank Holiday weekend. 

Clear Channel’s Twitter account updated at 22:06: “We have received complaints regarding a UKIP poster in Levenshulme, Manchester. We are currently reviewing these complaints we will provide an update once the review has been completed.”

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PS: ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ADDED ON THE 02-Apr-2013

Clear Channel. the agency concerned, having considered the views of complainants have seemingly upheld the British values of democracy and free speech  against the anti democratic attempt to bully and threaten made by extremists and have issued the following statement:

We understand that the issue of immigration is an emotive one, and also recognise that it is a legitimate topic for public debate.
In this instance, we believe that the poster is ASA compliant, and have decided that it will not be removed.

Personally I totally endorse their statement and abhor the efforts of extremists to suppress discussion and corrupt the democratic process.

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UKIP’s Racist credentials & anti democratic opinions …

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 28/03/2013

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in reply to a comment on UKIP made by a comment poster on this web site at CLICK HERE I felt it apposite to state:
Hi,

having read your article on your blog your stance of somewhat loaded statistics seems more obsessed with race than that of the core grass roots members of UKIP.

To present numbers on a racial basis as a defence is clearly, in and of itself, racist.

Do be minded that an immigrant arriving here has not only not contributed to the system, but nor have their antecedents or. One must wonder at their reason for coming here and sadly all too often it is to avoid the mess their ancestors and associates have made of their own country!

I do feel that there is every reason to withhold benefits for a given period, until their long term commitment to contributing to Britain is ensured.

The open door policy forced on us by the laws made by our Parliament in The EU without care or democratic input of any validity is clearly unwise; as it puts undue strain on our basic resources, paid for by our own tax payers.

We have a shortage of jobs suitable to our own labour force in today’s market, as with housing that is suitable, and educational facilities are planned and funded in line with our own tax payers’ needs.

Our NHS is forced to expand for both immigrants and health tourists leaving insufficient funding for the levels of care selected by British tax payers, and insufficient surplus to train adequate doctors, nurses and other front line staff – thus resulting in our wholesale theft (by enticement) of the most valuable resources of third world economies in the importation of nurses, doctors and carers!

The levels of influx in percentage terms is unarguably disadvantageous to the indigenous population and its best interests and is altering the very culture and economy which the hoards of immigrants would seem initially to be attracted by.

It is bunkum to claim mass immigration enriches a country when all the evidence is to the contrary and even the Labour party now admits to its irresponsible governance in terms of immigrants – perhaps one day they will develope sufficient integrity to admit their catastrophic economic illiteracy and utterly corrupt engagement in war crimes and crimes against humanity as a result of the lies of their leadership!

No sir I do NOT concur your basic premise for your contentions, regarding immigrants on an uncontrolled basis as we currently see it!

That said having been a very active campaigner against racism and having liver in numerous countries around the world I am forced to wonder what your theioretical contentions are based upon in substance and experience – beyond childish and ill thought out jingo.

I did state earlier that I teust the fundamental grass root supporters of UKIP but please be assured I have little but contempt for the biggotry and self serving support of racism, xenophobia and outright prejudice of the most vile nature of UKIP’s leadership team and its chosen allies in The EU and thus some of its more extreme racist parasites such as Gerard Batten and his odious superstition which he deems license to befoul UKIP with in the nature of his publications against Muslims which I believe incline to incite racial hatred – nor the vile racism of Lord Pearson which likewise incline to incite racism nor the overt support of Zionists and thus their terrorist oppression of the peoples of Paleastine.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

Interestingly in seeking the views of the extremist and anti democratic organisations who claim the right to IMPOSE their views & values on others, intimidating and blackmailing them to destroy the values of democracy I note the odious Hope Not Hate cult had this to say about Racism in UKIP:

HOPE not hate takes a position on UKIP

Monitor and oppose when necessary

Last Thursday HOPE not hate launched a consultation of our supporters asking their views about UKIP. This was done on the basis that whilst we absolutely believe UKIP not to be a fascist or even an ideologically racist party in terms of its leadership or constitution, there are significant questions to be asked regarding their recent rhetoric and campaign themes. HOPE not hate isn’t questioning that UKIP also very clearly operates within the British democratic tradition, nor are we trying to restrict free speech, rather we want to make sure that the public space for debate is a positive environment rather then one driven by hate.

On a personal level, I was unsure what the position of HOPE not hate should be. I appreciate the arguments both for and against a HOPE not hate intervention. Several of my colleagues and some of our close supporters have asked us in the last 6 months to take UKIP more seriously due to genuine and legitimate concerns about their international connections with the likes of the French Front National or the Italian Lega Nord.

There were even more concerns after the recent Eastleigh by-election and the totally exaggerated claims about the number of likely immigrants to be expected from Bulgaria and Romania in January 2014.

Research by Matthew Goodwin and Robert Ford showed that while UKIP is best known for it stance against membership of the European Union, its supporters were also hostile to immigration and multiculturalism more generally.

UKIP is a very different political party from the BNP but the drivers for its appeal is quite similar.

Others were fundamentally opposed to any HOPE not hate involvement in campaigns against UKIP, as being clearly out of our purview, but even they did question why Marine Le Pen chose to name check UKIP as her closet ally in the UK, when she spoke at Cambridge recently.

This is why we asked you all for your views. After all it is you that help fund our work, campaign with us in rain and snow and have helped us drive the BNP out of council chambers across the country. Fundamentally this should be your decision not mine.

The response has been incredible. Over 1200 people replied to our email within the first 48 hours and hundreds more gave us their views via Facebook, twitter and email. These numbers show the interest in this subject and justifies us asking the question in the first place.

There were a handful of abusive replies, mainly from UKIP supporters who were outraged at us raising the question, but overall the comments – both for and against – were passionate, measured and thoughtful.

In terms of a simple vote, our supporters back HOPE not hate campaigning against UKIP by a margin of just over two to one. 67% voted to campaign, while 33% said we should continue to ignore them.

However within the attached comments the position was much more nuanced. Many of those who believed that we should campaign against UKIP believed that we should just focus our efforts and resources on those people and campaigns which are very clearly racist and plainly unacceptable to HOPE not hate’s vision for a positive and diverse society rather than the party in its entirety.

There were others who voted no who said exactly the same.

Historically this approach is clearly in line with HOPE not hate’s tradition of exposing and highlighting the unacceptable extremists in all of the mainstream political parties. From the Conservative Party’s Monday Club, to last week’s revelation about Lord Ahmed’s antisemitism, HOPE not hate operates on a platform of zero tolerance towards political and cultural extremism. That means we believe we have a duty to expose any racist campaigns, comments or activities and where necessary run localised campaigns against specific candidates.

And this goes for UKIP too.

For now, and because of the nuanced comments you made, I don’t believe there is a clear mandate to run a national campaign against UKIP. However, we will monitor them more closely than we have done in the past, especially at a local level, and we will be prepared to speak out against them when we believe that they are deliberately stoking racism by telling lies about immigration or multiculturalism. We will also be prepared to run campaigns against individual candidates who put out racist leaflets or get involved in anti-Muslim campaigns. And we will do this as vigorously as we have opposed the BNP in the past.

We will review this position in November, six months out from the European Elections.

Following the launch of our consultation last week we have been invited to meet the leadership of UKIP. We immediately agreed and while we are keen to hear what they have to say we will also be outlining our position and the red lines between what we consider to be acceptable and unacceptable behaviour.

I will add one final thought of my own. As I have written several times on my blog in recent months, I am extremely worried about the shift in the tone of the debate on migration. This has largely been driven by some newspapers but also adopted eagerly by some politicians, including the leadership of UKIP. This has led to an increasingly hostile and toxic environment, both in the media and on the ground in local communities. My fear is that left unchecked this will only get worse. Next January, Romanians and Bulgarians will be allowed to work in the UK and with the European Elections only a few months away increasingly aggressive racist rhetoric will be ratcheted up even further. And, with mainstream political parties worried about UKIP coming first in the European Election, there will be a tendency to drift to the right themselves. HOPE not will oppose this and work with, where possible, and against, where necessary, any political party that seeks to play the race card.

I hope I can count on your continuing support for what will be a busy 15 months.

Nick Lowles

Following the theme of ‘Hope Not Hate’ who are so reknowned for their Hate & campaigning style  I tripped over the following article from Tales From The Borderland – though not the most reliable source as I have found based on the unsustainable and idiotic drivel they published about me some years ago – do read their opinion but based on experience may I suggest you check out any facts they present as they are on occasions strangers to the need for veracity in facts!

SUPPING WITH THE DEVIL?
HOPE NOT HATE & UKIP

Published on Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:47

SUPPING WITH THE DEVIL? UKIP & HOPE NOT HATE

By Larry O’Hara (with assistance from David Pegg & Heidi Svenson) 20/3/13

With wry amusement Notes From the Borderland (hereafter NFB) has watched closely recent public posturing by Hope Not Hate (hereafter HNH), purportedly triggered by ‘concern’ at racist trends within the UK Independence Party (hereafter UKIP), set in motion on their blog 14/3/13 and issue 7 of HNH magazine.   There is far more to this story than meets the eye, and NFB are happy to provide context, albeit partial, in that much detailed proof of our assertions lies in past issues of NFB magazine, namely: issue 4 (highlighting the secret state plot to undermine UKIP in 2000), issue 5 (reproducing in full the strategy document Nick Lowles of Hope Not Hate wrote for the European Movement), and issue 10 (detailing exactly how much HNH are in the pay of the current government, specifically the Department for Communities and Local Government).  To obtain these magazines, visit our sister-site www.borderlandmagazine.co.uk or alternatively click on the top-right of this site where it says ‘How To Buy NFB By Post/On-line’.  Nonetheless hopefully enough evidence is cited here to substantiate our argument that HNH are in no position to comment with either accuracy or good faith regarding any UKIP matter, and anti-racists within UKIP should give these shysters a wide berth.  A timely intervention, given HNH are to meet the UKIP leadership imminently.

After briefly looking at HNH’s stated motivation, we discuss HNH’s ‘dialogue’ with supporters, pointing to the absurdity of any pretence this is a genuine grass-roots organisation.  Next we probe HNH’s tendentious ‘History of UKIP’, and misrepresentation of what UKIP supporters actually believe.  Then, we look at two explanations for HNH dishonesty: first, the political past/ideology of head honcho Nick Lowles, and second, HNH’s position as hirelings of the DCLG, and therefore servants of the political establishment rocked by UKIP.  Finally, a few comments on what anti-racists in UKIP and elsewhere should, and should not, do.

(1) WHY ARE HNH CONCERNED?

The cat was let out of the bag right from the start: to quote HNH’s initial blog post “UKIP is surging in the polls and could well come first in next year’s European Elections.  How should HNH respond? Should we begin to oppose them or should we stick to extremist groups like the BNP?”[i].  In other words, it is UKIP’s electoral threat to the old order that bothers HNH, not their essential nature.  They claim “UKIP is increasingly taking an anti-immigrant tone and as anti-racists we cannot ignore that”[ii].  Yet twelve years ago Lowles said virtually the same thing “UKIP has swung to the right in the last two years…UKIP now represents a nationalist rump”[iii].  If this was true, or he really believed it to be so, HNH and the Searchlight organisation from which they sprang would have opposed UKIP consistently.  Yet they haven’t.  We are not talking about principles here: Lowles wouldn’t know what one was  The real motives for HNH’s opposition to UKIP I will return to, but suffice to say, anti-racism isn’t chief among them.

(2) A PSEUDO-CAMPAIGN?

HNH has no democratic structures whatsoever, and the mugs who give them money, even assuming the incessant online polls aren’t rigged, are ignored anyway.  This ‘consultation’ was meaningless like other fund-raising gimmicks that HNH presents as such.  Firstly, the question asked was skewed: with only two options, counterposing “campainging” (i.e. something active even if mis-spelt) to the negative phrase “just ignore them”.   There is no option for supporting UKIP in any form, therefore from the outset anti-racist UKIP sympathisers are excluded from participating as themselves.  Second, not only was the stated turnout/response pitifully low (“over 1200”) the results were discounted anyway.  For “67% voted to campaign, while 33% said we should continue to ignore them”[iv], yet apparently HNH are not going to campaign against UKIP, because, according to Lowles, “within the attached comments the position was much more nuanced”, consequently “because of the nuanced comments you made, I don’t believe there is a clear mandate to run a national campaign against UKIP.  However we will monitor them more closely”.  Yet 67% is a clearer mandate than any elected UK government has received this century, or last!  If Lowles had objected on the basis of turnout, fair enough, but this arrogant twerp is objecting ostensibly because of ‘nuances’, thereby discounting the very views he pretended to canvas.  Such disdain for the punters is, as we have shown in NFB 10 (p.64) integral to the HNH model of pseudo-participation.  Supporters don’t control policy, rather they are the object of endless marketing/fund-raising campaigns dressed up as participation: clicktivism.

(3) FALSIFYING HISTORY: UKIP AS PORTRAYED BY HNH

To encourage supporters to see things their way, HNH got erstwhile photographer Joe Mulhall to cobble together a distorted account, verging on the libellous[v].  He refers to leader Nigel Farage MEP having “admitted meeting Dr Mark Deavin (the BNP’s then head of research who had briefly infiltrated UKIP…at the latter’s request, to discuss his defection from UKIP to the BNP”.  Inasmuch as Deavin is described as infiltrator, not ‘defector’, Mulhall seems to imply the defection of Farage himself to the BNP was on the menu: or else he (Mulhall) is an illiterate idiot, the charitable view.  Wonder what Nigel makes of this?  Equally dishonest, UKIP founder Alan Sked (the real subject of the Farage/Deavin meeting) is given an easy ride, described as “alluding to the damaging revelation that a…close ally of his Mark Deavin, was actually a BNP infiltrator”.  This is not the half of it.  Firstly, it was Sked himself who introduced Deavin to the higher ranks of UKIP, without him even being a member.  Secondly, the whole murky business of Deavin’s involvement in UKIP, and the subsequent Cook Report documentary on the BNP/UKIP was one in which Searchlight themselves were intimately involved from start to finish.  While HNH have now split from Searchlight (in a deeply acrimonious dispute fully chronicled in NFB 10) they share both a common past and approach.  As argued in detail in NFB 4 (p.18-23), the Deavin affair, and the attempt to set up Nigel Farage by photographing him with both Deavin and Tony Lecomber of the BNP was orchestrated not so much by the BNP (as some believe)[vi] but by Searchlight (who Lowles worked for) themselves.  Deavin was in UKIP’s orbit before he was involved with the BNP, for instance.  Other fascists Mulhall mentions with past UKIP involvement have a more interesting past than he discloses, such as Trevor Agnew and Matt Single, both featured in NFB as acting in a way entirely consistent with them being in the orbit of both Special Branch and Searchlight[vii].  Is this the standard of research you get for one day a week’s work? Even if it is, Lowles knows Mulhall’s account is poor fiction, yet evidently approves it being on the site.

Aside from rewriting the past, HNH consciously misrepresent the views of UKIP supporters, by exaggerating differences between them and other voters.  To that end, research by Rob Ford of Manchester University is cited, along with that of Matthew Goodwin, to show how extreme/racist/supportive of violence UKIP supporters are.  These self-styled and lavishly-funded ‘anti-extremism’ experts we will deal with another time, suffice to say racist attitudes are very common in society at large—in 2010 the Citizenship Survey found that of 16,200 adults 76% wanted a reduction in immigration[viii].  An even larger YouGov poll for Channel 4 of 32,000 voters in May-June 2009 found that while 76% of UKIP voters saw immigration and asylum as one of the top 3-4 political issues, 58% of Tory voters and 46% of Labour’s wanted a halt to immigration[ix].  The real problem with racism therefore, is much broader than UKIP (or the BNP) and to single out UKIP supporters is misleading, intentionally so.  No more so than when castigating UKIP supporters for being “hostile to multiculturalism more generally”[x].  In a March 2011 Searchlight magazine editorial, Lowles wrote of a David Cameron speech criticising multiculturalism, “by demanding integration, an end to state multiculturalism and an acceptance of a core liberal belief system Cameron is not playing to the far-right gallery, as some have argued, but creating a firewall between the mainstream middle and those totally opposed to immigration”.  Thus, UKIP are not allowed to criticise multiculturalism, but Tories are.  Furthermore, Lowles and co-author Carl Morphett (for some silly reason persisting with the pseudonym Simon Cressy) wrote that “while UKIP is not a far right or fascist party many of its members and supporters hold views little different from those held by the BNP”[xi]

(4) HNH’s REAL MOTIVES

Anybody who thinks Lowles an honest broker regarding UKIP clearly does not know his political past regarding Europe.  In 1996 he wrote an infamous document (while working for Searchlight) offering to provide pro-EU propaganda for the European Movement in the struggle against anti-EU forces.  The proposal (which was taken up and is reproduced in NFB issue 5 p.54-55) ends by saying

 “this research will be a unique insight into the anti-European network in Britain.  Utilising sources inside these organisations, the European Movement will be furnished with information not otherwise easily accessible.  The report and the drip flow of information will provide your organisation with invaluable ammunition to add to your cause”. 

Note the charming phrase ‘drip-feed’.  How can anybody think that a venal pro-EU disinformation-peddler like this should be listened to by anybody genuinely concerned about opposing the EU in an anti-racist way?

In case it be argued, utterly implausibly, that Lowles has changed his pro-EU spots, consider two further things.  First, the clique of which he is a part now running Hope Not Hate is largely composed of the pro-EU hard right Labour faction ‘Progress’ (see NFB 10 p.59-60/75), chief among whose patrons is the oleaginous pro-EU Peter Mandelson.  It gets even worse.  In both February 2012 and (we understand) in February 2013 (see NFB 10 p.61-62), HNH have been in receipt of substantial funding from the Department of Communities and Local Government, brokered by DCLG ‘Integration Division’ boss Andrew Jordan, and HNH speakers are frequent participants at DCLG-sponsored seminars, along with Matthew Goodwin and various spooks.  In this respect, whereas originally funding was forthcoming to counter the EDL, it now seems legitimate to argue that here we have government funded HNH turning its sights on a political party, UKIP, that is a major problem for their Tory paymasters.  That cannot be right, and is surely questionable legally.

(5) WHAT NEXT?

Hopefully, readers will now understand just why NFB regards HNH’s stance on UKIP with wry amusement, especially this announcement: “following the launch of our consultation last week we have been invited to meet the leadership of UKIP.  We immediately agreed and while we are keen to hear what they have to say we will also be outlining our position and the red lines between what we consider to be acceptable and unacceptable behaviour”[xii].  Just why would anybody of good faith listen to what the likes of Lowles, known Europhiliac and DCLG hireling, might have to say by way of ‘advice’ to the anti-EU movement generally/UKIP in particular?  Rather we suggest:

  1. UKIP itself acts against racists in the ranks and expels them.
  2. No meeting with HNH, and especially no handing over of membership lists, as Sked did in the past[xiii]
  3. Those on the Left/Greens abandon their shameful acquiescence (by & large) in the racket that is the EU, thereby shifting the anti-EU debate Leftwards and linking it to a transformative political strategy.  Unless and until the Left deals with Elephant in the room that is the EU, they will (rightly) remain marginal.
  4. Urgent Freedom of Information Act  requests concerning  ongoing HNH funding by DCLG and other government departments, as a prelude to legal action to ensure this is not used for tawdry (pro-coalition) political purposes.  Opponents should not baulk at taking legal action against HNH: they don’t ‘do’ genuine debate.  For example, in the dispute with Searchlight they have threatened legal action/called in lawyers on no less than six occasions (NFB 10 p.73 has details) rather than have genuine public debate over differences.  What is really at stake is taxpayers money being used for proxy campaigning on behalf of the coalition.
  5. Further examination of the way political discourse is being polluted by anti-extremism discourse, as bought into by the DCLG/HNH/the Home Office/spooks and various intellectual prostitutes posturing as academics like Ford and Goodwin
  6. If there is to be a meeting between Lowles and others in the HNH orbit with anti-EU forces, a clear red line should be drawn, preferably at the top of some stairs, and the whole rotten lot booted out over it into the gutter where they belong.
Clearly the upper echelons of UKIP are racist, anti Jewish, anti homosexual and extremist – and all proven beyond argument by their close association and both support and sponsorship of overtly racist pan EU groups and their own Pan EU Political Group The EFD.
The excuse quoted for this close association with extremism of the basest nature is ‘for money & influence’ so it is fair to say UKIP is without ethics or principles and willing to prostitute itself to any vile extremist cause in return for ‘influence and money’!
Not a pleasant prospect for a political cult in Britain and as a Farage cult it is hard to think of it as a ‘Party’ at times!
Then of course the re are the efforts of Notes from the Borderland to summarise their 2001 position on UKIP infiltration by MI6 – which seems little more accurate than their original fanciful speculations, fed, as I recal, by the embittered and inaccurate speculations of the outmaneuvered UKIP aspirant Christina Speight’s vitriolic and dishonest views!
The rehash of this old story was published on 05-Aug-2010

YET MORE PLOTS AND RUMOURS OF PLOTS: DID MI6 INFILTRATE UKIP?

Introduction

One thing that unquestionably facilitates spook intervention in politics is the studied unwillingness of people on one part of the spectrum to take an interest when perceived opponents are infiltrated.  No more so than suggestions that the Euro-Sceptic movement might be the subject of secret state jiggery-pokery.  This not only ignores the political past–both the Labour Party & the Green Party once favoured withdrawal from the EU–it allows spooks greater maneouvrability in the present. 

 Something that we at NFB definitely think is a bad thing.  We would only ask that those who have no sympathy for UKIP put that aside for a few minutes and look at the issues…

TEBBIT WEIGHS IN

Just before the 2001 General Election, Tory bruiser Norman Tebbit wrote in The Spectator that UKIP had two ex-MI6 agents in the ranks, and by standing in seats against Tory Eurosceptic candidates was perhaps following an MI6 (and New Labour) agenda [132]. His argument had two aspects–the presence of MI6 assets on the one hand, and UKIP electoral strategy on the other.

UKIP did indeed stand against Tory Euro-sceptics who lost their seats, such as Patrick Nicholls. However, standing against those they are politically close to was no new policy–UKIP opposed the Referendum Party in 1997 and prior to that election were distinctly antagonistic [133]. In any event, whatever Tebbit’s own views on the EU, the suspicion is this article was written for (Tory) party motives to some extent at least. Tebbit hardly proved his case as to what M!6 might have been up to in UKIP. He did however, to use his phrase, ‘strike gold’ in one respect-ascertaining there were indeed two ex-MI6 agents inside UKIP. For that, we should all be grateful, as too for putting the question of spooks infiltrating politics on the agenda.

MI6 & PARTY POLITICS—A DEFINITE CASE TO ANSWER

Without question MI6 cultivate assets in political parties. Raymond Fletcher (Labour MP for llkestone 1964-83) was on MI6’s payroll while in parliament. Another former MI6 officer was influential Tory Cranley Onslow MP, later instrumental in recruiting 1970s MI6 provocateurs the Littlejohn brothers. Former Cabinet minister Jonathan Aitken was so in with MI6 he used this to defend his libel case against The Guardian. The most high profile former MI6 officer is Paddy Ashdown. As Lib Dem Leader his first act was persuade the party to ditch their unilateral nuclear disarmament policy. And who really believes his interest in the former Yugoslavia has nothing to do with Paddy’s MI6 past? Not us. At the very least we can say former MI6 employees entering politics retain links with SIS, which are of use in, and affect, their political life.

THE JONES ALLEGATIONS

Tebbit did not name his source, but others did. It was Chris Jones, sometime Labour Party Press Officer, more recently a UKIP Press Officer. He held this post for a few months before departing in contested circumstances. Jones, contacted by NFB, readily conceded he was Tebbit’s source, but added little, and seemed unenthusiastic about his previous claims. Undeterred, we continued investigating and obtained his two known relevant letters anyway.

First up is Jones’ letter to Jeffrey Titford MEP dated 26/9/00. He raises seven main points, yet none concern MI6 or even party policy. They all impinge on his employment contract and related financial matters, of little help in determining MI6 involvement in UKIP. At that time (and still) Jones had a court case pending relating to his employment. Maybe he was sidelined after discovering an MI6 plot in UKIP–but this letter does not directly support that. Indeed, inasmuch as he says “alarm bells started ringing in my head in my second week in [UKIP] employ”, no allegation concerning MI6 is even implicitly substantiated. A mundane motive for alleging MI6 infiltration (revenge) is however potentially substantiated. Luckily, we already know via Tebbit two were definitely ex-MI6.

A second Jones missive is more helpful, dated 14/1/01. His letter to the ‘Regulation of Investigatory Powers Tribunal’ refers to “my allegation, based on detailed circumstantional {sic) evidence gathered over 5 months that UKIP has been penetrated and is largely controlled by British Intelligence agents”. Unfortunately there is no evidence in this letter, although a request is made to “call upon files on UKIP: myself: Dr R AE North: G Franklyn-Ryan: Nigel Farage MEP: Heather Coyningham a former FCO official; Christopher Skeate also FCO: Tony Stone: Mark Daniel (alias): Janet Girsman and G Lance Watkins”. Given he presumably doesn’t see himself as a spook, maybe others on this list are victims too according to Jones. What caused whittling down 8 names to 2 (when he met Tebbit) is not ascertainable. Perhaps Mr Jones might say more on these matters, and we hope he will. One further point-in our opinion, the last people to go to if concerned about spookery is the Home Secretary or any spook monitoring body. If there is no secret state involvement, it’d be a waste of time. If there is involvement, they wouldn’t admit it but simply cover their tracks.

SIFTING THE EVIDENCE

According to preliminary research the following things are known or claimed about Heather Coyningham & Christopher Skeate, the two ex-MI6 staff. They worked in Latin America together (possibly Peru) and were both in the Referendum Party, the latter as a 1997 candidate. As UKIP Press Officer, Skeate recruited Coyningham to a secretarial role. Fluent in languages. Coyningham now works in Brussels as secretary to both Titford and Farage. No evidence has been found of her factionalising, but it has to be said if she were still operating to an MI6 agenda, this apparently mundane but in reality crucial job is exactly the sort of task she would perform. We have heard that Coyningham played a key part in the recent General Election campaign, and helped change party policy concerning a referendum on EU membership. We do not know this is so, but report it: such a policy dilution is something MI6 would favour.

Skeate has a higher profile. He attended the crucial New Alliance foundation meeting 7/6/97 and in February 1999 lobbied NEC members to prevent suspension of Liz Milton from that body. Also that month, he accused then leader Michael Holmes of being responsible for posting defamatory material concerning himself (Holmes) on the Eurofaq internet newsgroup. Skeate drifted in and out of the various internal conflicts, surfacing at the October 1999 AGM claiming “the NEC had achieved nothing in the last year or so-and attempted to put the blame on Michael Holmes” (according to one critic) [134].  Maybe Skeate’s participation in factionalism was innocent-and after all, a lot less than some. However, if he too were still working to an MI6 agenda, encouraging factionalism at pivotal moments is something one might expect. Early in 2001, Skeate left UKIP, over an undisclosed matter. His internet argument with Holocaust Denial supporter Alistair McConnachie (mentioned earlier) found its way to the Guardian in February 2001. Of course, Skeate probably genuinely opposes anti-semitism, although we doubt pro-Jewish sympathies were encouraged in MI6. After all, his Latin America posting will have included dealings with the Cayman Islands, which play “an integral role in money laundering for several of the Arab intelligence services” [135].

REACTIONS TO TEBBIT

Ordinary UKIP members saw Tebbit as pursuing a Tory agenda: fair comment [136], The Telegraph covered it straight [137]. The Guardian snidely dismissed Tebbit as a ‘conspiracy theorist’—yet Tebbit had incontrovertibly established Skeate and Coyningham were MI6 [138].

Next up was Andrew Pierce inThe Times (24/5), who in 1999 broke the Farage/Lecomber/Deavin photo story. He poured scorn on Tebbit, implying UKIP was the province of MI5 (if anything) not MI6–but why not both? He stated “there have been so many personality clashes within the party they would not have needed any external help to disrupt it”. Like Pierce for example? His was a disingenuous remark, for not only may spooks accentuate personal rivalries (the COINTELPRO model) genuine rivalries are good cover. Obviously speaking of the Jones Memo, Pierce claimed to be “trying to locate” it. We think it unlikely he didnt already have it. He asked of a plot ‘what is the point?’, knowing full well even the tiniest groups get infiltrated, never mind ones with MEPs whose main plank is a foreign policy issue. Pierce then deliberately blurs the Carmichae! (MI5) case with this (MI6) one, attributing such (manufactured) confusion to Tebbit! And so on–all in all, a professional snow job. Clearly, at some time between 1999 and 2001, Pierce’s public line on UKIP has undergone a radical change. Reporting the Tory attempt to bribe UKIP early in 2001 Pierce was respectful of Farage, quoting extensively from his internal UKIP report in a way doing UKIP (as opposed to Tories) no harm [139]. The uncharitable might think Pierce got instructions from above (or below) to enthusiastically rubbish Tebbit’s claims. We couldn’t possibly comment.

Recent coverage in the BNP’s Spearhead says little but is again reminiscent of Dr Deavin, using the name Barry Preston [140]. To date, neither Searchlight nor Francis Wheen have said anything. Maybe the drip feed is clogged up?

During the whole controversy, only one UKIP luminary spoke–Nigel Farage. He said a lot–and said nothing. To The Telegraph he admitted the “party could have been infiltrated by all sorts of people”. Not specifying who. For The Guardian he mused over whether leaks from UKIP had been “the far left, the far right, or the Conservatives, but I just don’t know”. Not spooks then. Strange, considering Tebbit’s Spectator article reported “no shock at UKIP when I told them what I know about the person who had left”. Or perhaps Farage believes an MI6 asset in UKIP would not be infiltration? So what would? On the BBC (23/5/01) Farage rhetorically asked “who is to say whether we were infiltrated by the security services”. Actually, Norman Tebbit. Farage’s most fatuous offering is the last. According to the Daily Express (25/5/01) after questioning Coyningham, Farage said “she thinks these claims are nonsense”. So do any number of people up in court–shouldn’t a party leader properly investigate, as the Express headline ‘Party starts spy probe’ promises? Topping it is this riposte. “Asked whether either had ever worked for MI6, Mr Farage said ‘I haven’t got a clue'”. Does this ridiculous response indicate irresponsible incompetence or something else? Your call. At the very least, former Tory MP John Browne could head up an inquiry. That really would be fun.

FOOTNOTES TO EXTRACT

132) The Spectator 26/5/01
133) see for example UKIP Press Release 28/11/96 & leaflet ‘Why UKIP is not in alliance with the Referendum Party’ (1996)
134) letter in Independence issue 30 October 1999 p.5
135) John Loftus & Mark Aarons ‘The Secret are Against the Jews; (St Martins Press NY) p.394
136) Brian Lee letter to The Spectator 2/6/01
137) Daily Telegraph 24/5/01 (Sarah Womack)
138) The Guardian 24/501 (Nicholas Watt).
139) The Times 2/3/01 (Andrew Pierce).
140) Funny goings-on in UKIP’ Spearhead 92 October 2001 p.18-19

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There are some strange TechNoPhobes In UKIP …

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/03/2013

There are some strange TechNoPhobes In UKIP …

There are those UKIP TechNoPhobes who ensure they can establish deniability and blame others, when they are caught out, who claim not to use the internet, use computers or use Twitter and claim to pay salaries from UKIP to do the job for them – This ensures they can deny involvement!

Then of course there are the TechNoPhobes who endlessly prattle on about being so important their computers were hacked when they were too stupid to use professional virus checkers and firewalls and keep them up to date.

Then there are the TechNoPhobes who are ashamed of what they do and say on line, and shelter behind false names and fake itentities to lie, cheat and defame.

It never ceases to amaze just howmany of them are members, ex members and parasites of UKIP seeking redress for their failures or preferment and reward from UKIP – I note many of them post on the two main UKIP controlled Forums, promoting their lies and fantasies, in fighting, squabbling and vitriol!

Then of course there are the rest of us – the true TechNoPhobes and those like me who are merely TechNoCrass!

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There was considerable cross referencing to do AGAIN and also redacting to ensure the security of my sources, and the checkable veracity of the posts.

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You may find the sordid style of the odious squabbling and jockeying for position and popularity of these insecure and self serving people gives an insight into just how odious is UKIP’s leadership team and the claque who wriggle, squabble and back stab, when not fauning and grovelling or in the beds of others to gain status really are!

Let us go back in time a little with a YouTube entry from the amoral and foul mouthed Annabelle Fuller:

Interesting when you consider this foolish woman’s track record of corruption and dishonesty!

Behaviour which forced her to run away from UKIP due to her unprofessional abuse of data protection – abuse which cost UKIP one of its better donors and chairmen John Whittaker who quit as he was no longer willing to befoul his personal reputation covering for Nigel Farage’s doxy’s dishonesty and incompetence.

We understand it was the track record of foul language and unprofessionalism that cost Fuller her next job withThe British legion and then with Army Pensions, despite her father’s influence.

However she is back again with Farage and on a salary of around £50K as I recall, not to mention drawing two incomes from the public purse by being paid for other and more personal services via her claims of having PR experience of value, rather than just pestering journos with strange tweets and personal calls, as they have told me! Billed presumably through Athena PR!

Or for that matter telling lies about people and promoting her personal style whilst drunk to the extent of not just false witness and dishonesty but also stealing from the unsuspecting marque as with the Blackberry, The House of Commons pass and private correspondence when trusted to enter an MP’s flat!

I presume there is some devious means of paying to avoid the EU rule of being doubly employed from their funds! Another UKIP financial scam organised by their tame accountant to keep Farage’s fingerprints off of the paper work!

Review her comments on YouTube above and assess for yourself just howmuch of a liability she is for UKIP and then read on – you may also consider it is a blind eye to her services that explains why Farage’s wife is paid £30K for her inactivity as a UKIP staffer – unknown in terms of any work done by Farage’s own constituency office and her employment was unknown until research turned up the facts which Daniel Foggo subsequently published in The Sunday Times.

Let us move on:

Here is a posting from 10-Feb-2013 – yet again from Annabelle Fuller regarding Diane James, and involving Sean Howlett, Steven Wolfe, David Coburn and Mick McGough

The conversation moved on involving discussion of the same individuals and minded of the disproportionate income relative to competence and ability it is clear the money isn’t even for professionalism, integrity, ethics or discression!” Loyalty to the party is clearly a ‘No No’ from this specimen!

Clearly Nigel Farage’s own PA is clearly out of her depth and batting in her own self interest all too willing to drag Farage and UKIP into the gutter of her life!

These duplicitous individuals are all over Diane James like a cheap suit to her face but clearly happy to do all they can to unseat her behind her back regardless of her doing well for UKIP at Eastleigh – it seems they are working to protect their jobs by ensuring their puppet master faces no challengers – so very typical of the divisive and unprofessional behaviour in Farage’s Party!

Again the conversation moves on and we see UKIP Yoooff who themselves consider Diane James ‘An Utter Bitch‘ someone who their contempt for is manifest, with comments like ‘who has never represented the party

UKIP who endlessly proclaim they are ethical and represent true British values are clearly rotten to the core.

It is that they endlessly protest they are not like the other parties that makes this more shocking as they are clearly riddled with hatred, self interest, greed and rivalry on a scale that surpasses even the worst in other parties.

Then on a different theme we see the infighting in UKIP Yoooff from the correspondence with his apparent mentor Steven Woolfe:

And toadying to, of all people, Neil Hamilton, the corrupt and discreditted ex Tory, dumped in a miasma of sleaze that has now engulfed UKIP:

You will of course be able to find further examples of stupidity, self serving, unprofessionalism, nepotism, cronyism, back stabbing, disloyalty and downright vituperative trash with just a few minutes search on the internet this little party displays all the reasons that so few honourable and decent folk of any consequence back them in domestic elections.

Although UKIP’s numbers are small; relative to the main parties they sure make up for it with their vile behaviour which can be found with a moments search!

Just look at CLICK HERE where much of this material can be found to have been posted!

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This eMail correspondence that follows is an extract from the full eMail which I received on this issue:

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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:27:01 +0000
Subject: Sean / Annabelle emails

YI: Change You Cant Believe In

KT got some threats after he posted this post earlier, as readers know KT is nice and fair, yeah KT pokes fun at politicians (if you cant laugh at them then you only cry) but its always done in the right way, anyway KT is going off piste a bit, lets rewind a bit, lets go back to say …. February 10th , that cool?
its an email exchange between UKIP members before the polls closed for Eastliegh, in fact a few weeks before the polls closed , these email involve Ms Fuller (Nigel Farage`s PA) , Sean Howlett and David Corburn :

https://ukip-vs-eukip.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/a90b7-anabelle1.jpg

They are discussing the then UKIP candidate for Eastlaigh Diane James, but then it moves on

https://ukip-vs-eukip.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/6f2bb-redactedyi.jpg As you can see Nigel Farage`s PA and others were bad mouthing Diane James behind her back and then being all nice to her face, even tho Diane came second in Eastleigh people close to Nigel Farage were slagging Diane James of, even after these e-mails YI (Young independence) requested that people vote for Diane James:

https://ukip-vs-eukip.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/864bc-yidianejames.jpg


UKIP claim they are different than all the others, the truth is that they are as two faced as all the others, they asked voters to vote for someone they described as a “utter bitch” and someone *who has never represented the party* , different from the others? no chance!

Update : While KT was checking this piece out he came across Ms Fullers You Tube page 

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KT may be mistaken but UKIP are not keen on Poles…… 

I believe now that this post has the various screen shots we can reasonably expect utterly implausible claims that their Blogs have been hacked – surprising that they have failed to claim this previously even though they knew the material had been screen captured and circulated!

Claims of being hacked are quite fashionable at the moment – such claims are so much more plausible if they are reported when they happen rather than when when their postings are highlighted!

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the back stabbing, squabbling and viciously odious behaviour of those on the make and the take in UKIP and those who feel they were in some way outwitted, out maneuvered or out performed in their efforts to climb the unsavoury and particularly greasy pole that UKIP provides on route to a place on the gravy train, or preferment in some way, can be measured by the following UKIP controlled public Forum posting.
Let us start off with this posting from an embittered and particularly repetitive pedant, on the UKIP controlled forum – I shall spare them the embarrassment of identifying them, suffice to say not the most reliable sources for information and untrustworthy, as I have found to my cost, also!
Many a sound and proven story exposing UKIP has foundered on this particular obsessive’s insistance on over egging the cake to impress. Clearly not realising that the simple facts and cross referenced truth suffice, one item at a time rather than throwing all the mud in the water and making it unpalatable for any investigator and too tedious for words!
Well what do YOU think:
Yesterday the ‘Junius’ internet site gave notice of its future intentions to publicise evidently unpleasant e-mails.
Just as though the trailer at the cinema for next weeks film that is to be even better than this weeks offering , the reader is encouraged to ponder then salivate.
The use of nasty e-mails about persons, especially those who gave of their time and resources to build up a volunteer base party is not now a new phenomenon.It has become a device to attain office that, sadly has succeeded.
Of course the e-mails that are to be offered for public consumption are able to be witheld were those within the team not wishing to destroy, then create a vacuum that they perhaps intend to fill.
Has this latest episode been prompted by illegal attacks upon persons computers ?
That method of attaining information has been employed against three persons to my certain knowledge in the past.
As so often with those who aim to be vindictive, convinced of the righteous nature of their fantasies, yet again we note they have jumped to the conclusion that an obvious 2 + 2 =s something other than 4.The deduction was so half witted that they failed to note the contact on Junius was awaiting forwarding of the material from me and I had firstly to redact to protect my sources and then to endeavour to ensure the veracity of the material I had been supplied!

The only reason I paid ANY attention to the gossip was that having compiled the posting late last night, as I endeavoured to post it Firefox crashed, deleting both the posting and the auto backups!

Sadly, as so often happens in a rush to judgement, the author of that foolish Forum post has got entirely the wrong end of the stick!
Then we have the spectacle of this foolish individual expounding on matters of which they clearly have little or no understanding – and just when is there proof someone’s computer was ‘hacked’ by someone in UKIP. Though I appreciate the grubby little sewer rat Nigel farage has employed ‘Mark Croucher, has from time to time claimed knowledge of hacking to make his lies more plausible and be of greater value to his pay master!
Clearly only a half wit would willingly put their computer forward on the internet without a serious degree of anti virus protection and a professional firewal of some sort. Frankly I do NOT believe that there has been either consequential or competent hacking within UKIP as such and as for GCHQ taking an interest on UKIP grounds dream on – they have better things to do, though clearly they don’t do them very well!
The case for having a computer hacked is very limited but without anti virus then clearly one is prone to Trojans and the like and exploitation of the computer by ‘hitch hikers’ either mass spamming or using the address book and the like.
At one moment attacking the duplicitous and corrupt Derek Clark and at the next seeking to defend him; as with the praise they lavish on Nikki Sinclaire and yet the damaging misinformation about West Midlands events!
The trail is long and tedious at one moment sharing information and yet at another, in breech of trust, playing secret squirrel to feed some fantasy or another!”
I would not be surprised if it was this buffoon who is spreading malicious rumours about Chris Pain supplying eMails to Junius and Geoffrey Collier leaking mass circulation ‘e’Mails!!! Or even trying to convince that the cartoons on The Junius Team blog are provided by Pain, leading some of the gullible fools in UKIP leadership to believe they are, when clearly many of them are actually signed photoshop cartoons and the rest are in the same style, mainly appeared in the ex UKipper and BNP sympathiser Andrew Edwards’ ‘e’Mail circulars.
But based on the level of political common sense in UKIP or political judgement one would hardly expect their leadership team to make intelligent guesses let alone professional deductions!
The material to which Team Junius allude on their blog is now my next task and with good fortune and a minimal number of interuptions (firefox not withstanding) I hope to have re-written the post later today – at which stage Junius Team will pick it up and post it, when they have time and their EU work allowing.
Meanwhile I shall await the latest efforts of the pond life of UKIP and its followers to desperately either stab each other in the back as they fight like inebriated ferrets in a pillow case desperately trying to hide their identities behind pseudonyms on the pretence that they NEED to protect their names for ‘internet security’ either they are dellusional or have a very inflated opinion of their worth!
I long ago stopped caring which foolish fake was Tubby arnott, Slime Croucher, Slut (you choose!), idiotic Finch, Mick McTrough, The Oaff Reeve, or any number of clowns too ashamed to put their names to their  vituperative maunderings.
To be fair I rarely read the postings of those who hide in shame there are enough items by honourable men and women to take up my time and at least with information supplied by real people it can be checked!
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it is intriguing to speculate just howmany MPs and District Councillors UKIP would have by now if they had all acted with the integrity and put in the consistent hard work that Nikki Sinclaire has done since she left UKIP on a point of principle regarding their association and collaboration wityh racism, anti homosexuality,anti Judaism and corruption.

Unfashionable as it may be for those licking boots in UKIP many will remember that when she left UKIP as a result of the outright lies of Malcolm Pearson, the dishonesty of Christopher Gill, the innuendo and bullying of Nigel Farage and Godfrey Bloom, when drunk and sober, and the vile behaviour of Mick McGough and other low lifes in the leadership clique and its odious claque of cowards, posturing behind anonymity.

She was at the time one of UKIP’s largest donors!
Also do note that Nigel Farage promised the electorate before any UKIP MEPs were ever elected that every elected UKIP member would publish full auditted accounts – To date not a single UKIP MEP, Councillor or other elected public servant has ever published transparent auditted accounts.
Some may remember that to get votes Nigel Farage PROMISED transparency!
Then of course let us remember that Nigel Farage PROMISED no UKIP elected member would ever employ family – it was due to the facts garnered and then published by Daniel Foggo that his colleagues discovered that although Farage had PROMISED and blocked his colleagues was himself employing his wife on a salary of about £30,000 a year and even his own constituency office did not know and knew of no work that she did for UKIP or Farage othwer than as a wife, mother and domestic help – Yet money available to UKIP staff was dishonestly spent by Farage to bribe his wife!
Just imagine what UKIP could have achieved in 20 years had they had the work ethics, integrity, sense of duty and willingness to fund the party shown by Nikki Sinclaire whom the leadership of UKIP lied about, bullied and defamed to ensure they removed her as she was embarrassingly showing up their corruption, dishonesty, corruption, self interest, racism and lack of integrity.

Burton MEP calls for accounts to be audited

Written by MARK MCKAY

THE Euro MP for Burton has called on fellow Euro politicians to have their accounts put under the microscope and audited.

Nikki Sinclaire, the We Demand a Referendum MEP for the West Midlands, made the calls after having her accounts successfully audited for the third year.

She said: “In times of financial austerity, it is important that the electorate know where their money is spent.”

She also slammed the European Union for not having its accounts audited for the past 18 years.

She said: “Transparency is my number one aim.

“With the European Union being unable to audit its accounts for the past 18 years, it is no wonder that the majority of this country questions our membership”.

Ms Sinclaire has also claimed to subsidise her own expenditure in 2012 by £40,851 which she said helped fund her work in the West Midlands.

She also claims to have subsidised her general expenditure from her own pocket by £119,744 between 2009 and 2012.

To view Ms Sinclaire’s documents regarding financial transparency visit http://yourmep.org/transparency.html

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