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UKIP NEC attack Farage & Bannerman re: Patrick Moore

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/12/2012

UKIP NEC attack Farage & Bannerman re: Patrick Moore

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The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

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A UKIP NEC member attacks Nigel Farage & David Bannerman re: Their exploitation of Sir Patrick Moore!

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the better informed members of UKIP with some knowledge of the party will well remember when Douglas Denny was fired for dishonesty and corrupting a party election.
You will remember Douglas Denny in flagrant abuse of his position of trust as returning officer betrayed the UKIP electorate and was fired by his colleagues on the NEC for having actively campaigned for one of the candidates, amongst other things he had obtained Sir Patrick Moore‘s signature as assentor for a candidate in the election!Douglas Denny has a long history of dishonesty, corruption and fantasies whilst in UKIP and I am inclined to believe that the letter below is not only genuine but despite the signature being redacted it does look all too like an attempt at petty revenge on the part of Douglas Denny!
With that consideration in mind and aware that there is absolutely no one of integrity, probity or noticeable intellect on UKIP’s NEC and they do incline to temper tantrums and squabble like ferrets in a sack as they stab each other in the back to gain positions for themselves you may find this letter that was forwarded to both Junius and I of interest:
Sir Patrick Moore was a navigator in the RAF
& strenuously opposed to EU membership all his adult life
In his latter years Sir Patrick became evr more of a charming excentric
best known as the driving force of
It rells us a lot about Farage, The NEC and the dynamics behind the scenes in his shoddy little party:

Please let us get this right. I am still disgusted with this business even now.

So here it is in detail.

What happened was DCB asked to meet Patrick because, he said, he had met him at his school when he came to give a talk, years previously. I said I would arrange it sometime, and consequently DCB came and stayed here at my house for a couple of days. I took him to visit Patrick and it was whilst we were there talking about this and that, when effectively out of the blue DCB asked Patrick if he would support him in the leadership contest. When Patrick said he would, he then asked if he would sign his nomination papers. Patrick again agreed. I should point out Patrick was (I put is and had to change it) so generous he agreed straight away without even thinking about it. I had nothing to do with this, which little scenario, unfolded before my eyes.

When the nomination papers were published, Nigel Farage went ape-s ** – claiming Patrick had already agreed to support him with his signing of nominations for leadership (he hadn’t actually to my knowledge anyway, and only based this assertion on Patrick supporting previously when it was he who asked Patrick first) and demanding to know from all and sundry including me, firstly via his acolyte Ray Finch (in a quite bizarre conversation something like the Spanish Inquisition) then later himself how dare I go and get Patrick to sign DCBs papers. In point of fact as I relate above I had nothing to do with it. He was hopping mad at DCB getting in first and asking and his not doing it.

The only ‘help’ DCB had from me was arranging for him to visit Patrick – which I have done for dozens of people who asked.

I now suspect strongly that businesss of getting signatures for leadership election nomination was the main reason DCB wanted to meet Patrick with a view to asking him for that support – not as he said, to just visit him because he admired him and wanted to meet him again after the school visit all those years ago.
That, I assure you, had never occurred to me.

Farage got Ray Finch who I believe works for him to go around to Patricks straight away when he found out, and more or less demanded Patrick support him too. Patrick could not go back on his word having already signed papers for DCB, so Finch got Patrick to agree to making a statement of how wonderful he thought Nigel Farage was, and how he was an excellent leader before would make a good leader again .. or words to that effect. That was subsequently published as part of the statements of the candidates for Nigel Farage.

Patrick was so disgusted with the whole business of being manipulated in such a cavalier way he very nearly resigned from UKIP there and then. I begged him not to and am glad he did not.

That is the truth of it for everyone to know.
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Though I concur the behaviour was squalid I do note just how many seniour members of UKIP’s leadership are of moral turpitude, liars, drunks cheats and low lifes – Is it any wonder they have been such a spectacular failure in British domestic elections over the last 20 years.
Consider the shameful calliber of UKIP’s NEC over the years, the cowardice, corruption and dishonesty – an NEC that would accomodate such liars and cheats as the odious and incompetent Mick McGough caught cheating even his own colleagues in his efforts to agrandise his personal ambitions! He is clearly not alone in his vile behaviour and  corrupt befouling of UKIP, nor in his childish efforts to belittle others!Clearly the informed public have seen through UKIP and hence their catastrophic results in General Elections, by-elections and the recent PCC elections where they did so risibly!
I note even the Tories have little but contempt for them and despite David Bannerman’s contemptible behaviour, first selling out on the Tories who had seen through him and had chosen not to promote his personal ambitions further and then having exploited the gullible and politically inept UKIP for his personal gain, realising he was going nowhere firtjher with UKIP he betrayed them also!
It would seem David Bannerman is to be cast back on the dross heap by the Tories at the next EU election where he is scheduled to be listed as a candidate at a position on the list unlikely to find a job!Following David Bannerman’s example of betrayal I gather Nigel Farage has also failed to ingratiate himself with the Tories in his efforts to sell out on UKIP in return for either a Cabinet Post or a Peerage in return for the surrender of the rump he perports to lead having, more by luck than any signs of ability as a leader taken UKIP as far as it was likely they would ever get.The deal, despite lengthy negotiations and foolish comments from idiots in UKIP and the likes of Michael Fabricant is now clearly off. The Tory leadership, being considerably brighter than their back benchers, would seem increasingly to have become aware that UKIP posed only a small threat to them, if any as their main increase in support was seemingly from the failed BNP and LibDims and very little from dissafected Tories save those they were pleased to see leave.

That so charming an excentric as Sir Patrick Moore with his patriotic war service as an RAF navigator was so exploited in his latter years by UKIP leadership is sad. I was so very pleased to have had the opportunity of a lengthy dinner with Sir Patrick just a few years ago after first becoming aware of him as I lay on the lawn under the 100foot+ palm trees of Singapore alongside the old Kempitei headquarters, looking out over the wrecks of WWII in Singapore harbour to the lightning rippling along the skyline over Indonestia.There were three programmes we tried never to miss, on the only radio with good enough reception  which was the car radio in our Austin A90 Atlantic Sports – I remember it well in 1957 – they were The Sky at Night, The Goon Show and Journey Into Space!Thank you Sir Patrick for such abiding memories and rest in peace, liberated from the problems of your latter years and their debilitation.

R.I.P.

Regards,

Greg_L-W..

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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.

They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then  still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.

Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!

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Nigel Farage of UKIP called to account by Chris Davies MP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/12/2012

Nigel Farage of UKIP called to account by Chris Davies MP

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Nigel Farage Leader of the racist Pan EU EFD Political Group & UKIP called to account by Chris Davies MP for negligence, dishonesty and apparent fraud it seems!!

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A sad reflection on the corruption that is the clique that is enriching itself by masquerading as the leadership of UKIP supported by a claque of liars, cheats and cowards looking for self advancement & their own employment and gain often sheltering their dishonest and misleading cyber abuse behind the shamefull cloak of anonymity.

To which I have appended the following comment of fact on YouTube:
It would seem several £Million have never been accounted for & Kirsten Farage is employed @£30K pa but UKIP was not told it took investigation to expose the dishonesty. Dishonesty as Farage had PROMISED no family would be employed & UKIP accounts would be transparent & open HE LIED.

For the record Nigel Farage gave a personal undertaking of open and transparent personal accounts and the undertaking that NO elected EU official would employ a member of their family – these undertakings were made as a condition of being elected on Meridian TV and elsewhere..

Regards,

Greg_L-W..

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UKIP & Racism noting The BNP & EFD Associates

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/12/2012

UKIP & Racism noting The BNP & EFD Associates
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UKIP & Racism:

noting clear affiliation with and exploitation of The BNP & The Pan EU EFD Group which Farage controls and its overt racism and anti homosexual views as associates supported by UKIP!!

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it is interesting to note that like many BNP members, now that The BNP are in disarray arguably even collapse, Michael Barnbrook is bemoaning the fact that he is ‘ostensibly’ not allowed back into the clearly racist (see details of Nigel Farage’s Pan EU Political Group CLICK HERE or Godfrey Bloom’s CLICK HERE – both supported by UKIP and acting as cash cows for Farage & Bloom personally!).
It is also worth noting that UKIP’s claimed rise in support would seem to equate almost totally to the collapse of The BNP’s support when one considers the last dozen or so by-elections!

That UKIP claims not to have members from The BNP is of course complete tosh as will be noted by the fact that Nigel Farage’s own sometime election agent was BNP and as I recall also a NF Regional organiser!

Farage himself is known to have had association with The BNP:

FARAGE, Nigel 37 DEAVIN, Mark - LeCOMBER, Tony
Nigel Farage meeting with BNP
senior member LeComber &
Alan Sked’s ‘friend’ Deavin!
More recently Nigel Farage’ friend and family long term friend, who Farage placed in UKIP as some sort of minor celebrity ‘Buster Mottram’ was used, dishonestly, by Nigel Farage and his sometime sewer rat Mark Croucher to engineer a faux claim of BNP infiltration when Farage was desperate to remove Drs. Abbott & Edmond scurrilously claiming in his engineered ‘Reichstag Fire Moment’ that they were acting for The BNP when they sought to introduce probity, democracy, integrity and accountability itno the clearly corrupt UKIP NEC!

Whether Dr. Eric Edmond, John West & Dr. David Abbott toolk the right course in trying to clean-up the corruption, racism, anti homosexuality, obfuscation and bullying dishonesty that is so rife in UKIP is a matter of opinion. They did however gain elected office inm the party and seek to act in a democratic manner with integrity and the interests of party members and these United Kingdoms in mind!

Only to find themselves bullied, lied about and out manouvered as with people like Heather Connyngham, Dr. Richard North, Richard Suchorzewski, Niall Warry, Simon Muir, Marcus Stead, Nikki Sinclaire and many other valuable assets before and since, details of many of whom can be found at CLICK HERE.

The quotes below are from a thread on a largely UKIP controlled Forum from a thread started by the self proclaimed ‘Sleazebuster resigns from British National Party

The QUOTES made are extracts from actual correspondence – there has been no deliberate aim to distort but to reassure yourself you are welcome to plough through the originals!

“I realized it was time to go when Mr Griffin picked a foreigner rather than a Londoner to stand as the Mayoral Candidate”.
Regards,
Michael Barnbrook
A really rather clear statement of racism yet he seeks to rejoin UKIP yet they have liars and foreigners selected by Nigel Farage as their MEPs!
“I didn’t want to leave the British National Party, but as a man of integrity and honesty, I could no longer associate myself with an organisation so deeply steeped in allegations of massive fraud and financial wrongdoing”.
Regards,
Michael Barnbrook
This does seem rather a contradiction from a man who in the next breath is boasting of having been in The Met. long enough to work the system and become an Inspector!

The hypocricy is staggering when he is now clamouring to rejoin UKIP, his ambitions in the BNP having it seems been thwarted! What integrity is there in just moving around corrupt organisations for what seems to be personal gain!
Those who find a need to boast of their ‘integrity’ seem to have much in common with those, unable to present an example, who make much of verbalising their claim to be ‘Christians’ often preceding particularly bigotted and unpleasant intolerant behaviour!
The problem with the British National Party is that the personality is bigger than the party.
I have stood in six elections for the British National Party.
Unless or until the British National Party rids itself of Mr Griffin and the bunch of ne’er-do-wells that surround him, the party is going nowhere.
Ask yourself why the people closest to him are of such low intellect or dubious character. Is it to make him stand out as the best of a bad bunch?
Regards,
Michael Barnbrook
Michael Barnbrook may be a fool but he is far from foolish and it is astonishing just how accurately his description of The BNP back in September 2011 relative to its subsequent progress and also how readily the same description fits UKIP with just a small change of names!

These points and many more and the open desire and clear traffic between UKIP and The BNP clearly shows just how indiffensible is UKIP’s claim not to be The BNP in blazers – particularly when you consider the vile racist EFD Group which Farage leads and has bundled UKIP into.

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Regards,

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Just What Is UKIP For? Having such a track record of failures!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/12/2012

Just What Is UKIP For? Having such a track record of failures!
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is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  

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never having had personal political ambitions I incline not to have such a rosy tinted view of UKIP and what it rather wildly claims to be its success over the last few months as the small claque of praise singers it has gathered both salaried and ambitious!

UKIP has clearly let us all down with their abject failure to gain the trust of the British electorate in any domestic election of any consequence EVER!

UKIP have indeed picked up new members, in almost exact proportion to the loss of members by The BNP who due to UKIP’s racist credentials via its associations as members of Farage’s cash cow The EFD and Blooms cash cow the Alliance.

UKIP’s results have been obfuscated and made to look good by the fact that the protest votes they could have been expected to pick up rejected them and stayed at home – thus although UKIP seemed to gain a couple of quite good percentages of the turnout in the last 6 by-elections they achieved an average 3.3% of the electorate and came nowhere near even being within strike of winning a Westminster seat.

UKIP has become a political embarrassment but a useful stick with which the media can stir the political pot, at least until in the run up to the next election when they can expect the serious media to do a very in depth exposee and we have seen a number of forays to that recently, such as the recent documentary on Farage damning him with faint praise as a drunken fool on Radio 4.

There are we note, a couple of very consequential commentators amassing material at the moment and conducting interviews for later editing and use.

The sad fact that UKIP has absolutely no one willing to have their name associated with the party of any stature or gravitas, backers who fail to register on the electoral roll and are now seemingly tax exiles in the Channel Isles, not a single MEP of any consequence, integrity or competence.

Not a single MP or PCC, nor a Mayor or councillor of any note or credibility and an embarrassment for staff, in the main appointed it seems for their willingness to act as praise singers for Farage.

UKIP clearly has no vision, no strategy, no tactics, no ethics, no political nouse nor even an exit and survival strategy relative to The EU, labouring under the idiotic belief that the way to Leave-The-EU is to merely run away in breech of contract, defaulting on international treaties and with no thought to consequence.

UKIP has displayed its abject lack of intellectual political thinking or understanding backed by a clear lack of competent PR or Press management managed by people of staggering ineptitude, an embarrassment to others in their occupation.

Sad isn’t it when so many of us had such high hopes of what UKIP might achieve, just a few years ago.

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Regards,

Greg_L-W..

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UKIP in Rotheram A Failure of morality & politics!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/12/2012

UKIP in Rotheram A Failure of morality & politics!
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UKIP in Rotheram was not just a political Failure but clearly a moral Failure of some magnitude!!

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this blog is pleased to announce that quite deliberately it declined to become embroilled in the UKIP publicity stunt and exploitation of the seeming Social Services gaffe of one individual as presented as we were not aware of adequate facts and felt there was a rather unpleasant stench of opportunism and exploitation of vulnerable children.

It starts to look as if we were right!

My instincts were set on edge originally, long before this unfortunate behaviour, by the UKIP candidate in Rotheram – a political prostitute being touted from constituency to constituency without the mandate of even the party it seemed as they were selected due to their relationship to an existing UKIP MEP Godfrey Bloom, a drunken libertine oaff who had bought his way into position via another louche lush!

One need only consider the dishonest publicity photos used in Rotheram of the candidate:

COLLINS, Jane 01
When here we have the truth:
COLLINS, Jane 03
OR:
COLLINS, Jane 05
Those few who have some track record and integrity in UKIP will remember what happened to Janet Girsman when she pulled the same stung and will remember her being hounded by Idris Francis and others and removed from the NEC as she refused to do as she was told to suit Farage.

I appreciate the situation is very different as I’m sure Jane Collins will do EXACTLY as she is told, to ensure she is chosen as one of Farage’s placement on HIS list of MEP candidates as the party is now a centralised authoritarian organisation with little pretence of democracy and zero understanding of the Libertarian principles (or lack of) which it espouses.

It does rather seem, as more and more detail comes out, that my ‘gut instinct’ to avoid the exploitation or even criticism of that exploitation was sound!

To be fair it was an excellent publicity stunt of Farage’s party to climb on the band wagon, as is their most common tactic as they have no strategy or vision of their own, though uncomfortable with the stunt at the time, as I was, I can only view the misrepresentation and exploitation with contempt and clearly the public were just as unimpressed as shown by the very poor turnout and the fact that UKIP did so badly – only managing to scoop up 21% of the protest vote that did turnout leaving Labour, whose MP had been sacked for theft, with twice as many votes still!

Clearly the public saw through UKIP’s rather sordid campaign – though UKIP did hand the media a wonderful stick with which to beat the government, all be it a stick of no merit as they attacked Rotheram’s Labour Council when it was the poor handling of a difficult situation by Social Services that were clearly to blame and not the council.

The #Rotherham #UKIP Case – Will Nigel Farage and Michael Gove now apologise?

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When the story broke that three children had been moved from a foster family in Rotherham, reportedly for being members of UKIP, I went out and talked to social workers, solicitors and care leavers. Consistently I got a response that the reported account was implausible, and there was almost certainly a more complex story to it. I put up a blog post saying so, and got a barrage of responses, much of them abusive.

Now a more complete picture is coming out about the affair. And – surprise, surprise – it was more complex than that. The details emerging are not of politically-crusading social workers with a grudge against UKIP, but of a difficult court case, dealing with distressing circumstances, with social services trying to comply with court rulings and fend off legal counter-arguments from the birth family.

This was not a case that should have been played out in the public domain like this. These are incredibly vulnerable children and their privacy has been invaded in an atrocious manner. I’m not going to repeat the details here (though people can just go to the Guardian for that)  but the distressing nature of their abuse gives a clear reason why such matters should be kept confidential. Not because social services have anything to hide, but to safeguard the wellbeing of the children.

A badly-handled interview with Joyce Thacker, Rotherham’s director of children’s services, didn’t help. Though with hindsight this is likely to be partly due to being caught on the hop on a Saturday morning, and also partly due to trying to be careful about what she said about a complex case. It may have been better for the council to have simply put out a “no comment” rather than trying to rush out an interview at the weekend.

Quite possibly the foster carers may well now have some difficult questions to answer about the way they went to the media and ignited a political firestorm. But politicians also have some questions to answer about the way they conducted themselves in this case. Nigel Farage practically turned  the whole thing into a party political broadcast for UKIP. Then there’s Michael Gove, the minister responsible for children’s services. He called it “indefensible” though in fact it turned out to be totally defensible. He also called it “the wrong decision in the wrong way for the wrong reasons”. Did he even know the way or the reasons when he said that? Was he even interested, or was he simply putting the Rotherham by-election before his ministerial responsibilities?

Ed Miliband emerges only marginally better in that, unlike Gove and Farage, he admitted he didn’t know the facts of the case and limited himself to calling for an investigation.

If politicians were cynical and opportunistic, some in the media were even worse. For example, the inexplicably-respected blogger Guido Fawkes ran an absolutely barking mad article. “Rotherham’s UKIP Child-Catcher Joyce Thacker Follows Common Purpose Progressive Agenda.” He leapt on a set of conspiracy theories, straight from David Icke territory, that accuse a rather dull training company called Common Purpose of trying to rewire our society along a “Marxist and Fabian” agenda. He concluded.

Thacker is yet another graduate of the Common Purpose organisation which pursues a“we know best” Fabian-style progressive agenda in the public sector. She was a project advisor for a pilot programme, run by Common Purpose, that was concerned with diversity issues in the West Yorkshire area. Something tells Guido she has an axe to grind in this and is not a neutral public servant…

Something tells me that Guido had better hope Ms Thacker doesn’t find herself a decent no-win-no-fee libel lawyer.

Nothing good has come out of this affair. Vulnerable children have had their privacy invaded. Hardworking and honest public servants have been grossly slandered. And why? For short-term political gain in a by-election. The likes of Nigel Farage, Michael Gove and Guido Fawkes need to apologise for their shameful behaviour in this ridiculous and unpleasant case.

To view this article in context CLICK HERE
To read The Guardian article alluded to CLICK HERE
The defence of Common Purpose in the article above shows just what damage is done by self serving individuals like David Icke or Brian Gerrish or TPUC and its fellow travelers when they seek notoriety by mounting half baked attacks on such organisations as Common Purpose making it a danger to expose the true nature of that particularly vile organisation for fear of being branded yet another fool from the self serving underbelly of life, the nutters like Icke, Gerrish and their ilk.

The service done for Common Purpose by the me, me, me style of half baked attack mounted by the nutters has been almost as notable as the service they have provided for paedophiles by desperately promoting the unfortunate ‘Stories’ surrounding Hollie Greig that are so clearly without foundation, without admissible evidence, without witness, without corroboration, without medical provenance and without much more than vitriol and a chance to beleaguer and berate a sector of the establishment who in default of ANYONE providing evidence of any value, merely false conjecture, has been unable to prove the negative and certainly unable in several enquiries to show any sign of truth in the claims the child was EVER sexually abused!

The questionable aspect of the Rotheram foster case, for lack of a better name, that was completely overlooked in their glee at a bandwagon to jump on for UKIP and a stick to beat the innocent with is clearly the EU law that obliges Britain to fund the care of any child dumped on us by any of the underclass of the vile EU of whom there are clearly yet more than even here.

UKIP as a party which ‘Claims’ to be opposed to membership of The EU despite their exploitation of it for the self enrichment of a small clique in UKIP aided by a claque of cowards and ne’er do wells seeking advancement amongst the crumbs that fall from the EU Troughs on the EU Gravy Train to fund the bribes to keep the wheels of this repugnant scam in motion – Where was the effort by UKIP to show the entire debacle was a product of EU law that the LibLabCon signed up to and UKIP does so much to profit from!
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UKIP by election failure & The EU Budget scam

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 30/11/2012

UKIP by election failure & The EU Budget scam

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Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

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The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

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UKIP by election failure when EVERYTHING was in their favour
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The EU Budget scam!

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as UKIP results were almost exactly as I had predicted in the by election at the moment I shall give their catastrophic failure the attention they deserve – though I may revisit it irrelevant as UKIP has again proved to be.
Even in Rotherham where with absolutely everything in their favour they achieved a risible 1/2 as many votes as the Labour winner at a time when the high profile Labour candidate had had to resign for corruption and theft from the public purse and the coalition was incredibly unpopular as they were forced to make cuts to patch up the damage done by the crass, incompetent and dishonest Labour party in 13 years of self indulgent, irresponsible and misrule!

When it comes to cuts ‘you aint seen nothing yet’ and the weak kneed and untrustworthy LibDims are already buckling under the strain – yet UKIP totally failed to make a showing despite the idiocy and PC corruption of Social Services over the undeniable racist stance of UKIP relative to SS fostering rules.

UKIP’s failure requires little further explanation at the moment in the light of general misunderstanding of the EU budget discussions, which I had not so far addressed as I was playing hospitals.

Nikki Sinclaire‘s public statement on the matter on her blog was correct in as far as it went and showed the irrelevance in simple terms:

 Nikki Sinclaire MEP statement as EU budget talks are called off:

Nikki said, “The EU pantomime has taken its Christmas break, while austerity is enforced across Europe, our so called leaders can’t make cutbacks to its own budget, while forcing draconian austerity members on the people of the EU”.

The We Demand a Referendum MEP added, “Isn’t it about time that the people of the UK had a say on whether they wanted to contribute to the EU
Isn’t it about time we let the people decide
Posted by Nikki Sinclaire MEP at Friday, November 23, 2012

I opted to comment further to clarify and state my belief of how clearly corrupt The EU is:
Greg_L-W.25 November 2012 03:45

Hi,

    it is worth considering that there was absolutely no intention of reaching agreement on the budget at this meeting and that the plan was that every National newspaper could publish the crud fed them, as designed by The EU Commission in cahoots with the corrupt, if unprepossessing bureaucrats who run our lives.

    Each National paper, in the 27 vassal states, seemingly have declared their leader to have done well in refusing to agree a budget, a budget that would not have suited their peoples!

    After the Xmas break they will ensure distraction that permits the budget to go ahead agreed by all in a pretence they obtained the best deal for their country.

    The media need a story and have deadlines and they are fed the story at the last minute by EU propaganda spin doctors – a story that fits their needs and has them thanking the hand that feeds them.

   A story which was written long in advance to present the schehrade planned and enacted, at the expense of the duped serfs, over gourmet food resplendent luxury and expensive wines!

    Journalism is long dead, as stories are not investigated but bought from corrupt police and untrustworthy public servants, as papers and the media in general so frequently publishes the EU’s handout propaganda verbatim, as press releases are issued to be timed minutes before deadlines and who would want to miss out on the great dollops of EU funded bribes by bucking the hand outs!

    Boris Yeltsin was an expert at this idea and would remove accreditation from any journalist who failed to publish his press releases or dared to criticise their content.

    Any EU based journalist who is left out ny the bureaucrats and receives no further hand outs and titbits, all suitably worded, will lose his job as his paper is forced to replace him with someone who is fed the stories in future.

    The EU budget will be agreed in a planned last minute settlement!

    The results are no doubt already printed merely allowing for release at some auspicious time in the future.

    These are the pragmatic realities of the utterly corrupt manner in which The EU moves forward lurching from one beneficial crisis to another ever tightening the ratchet of control and extortion on its vassal states and its bribes and handouts to those who comply with the scams.

    Regards,
    Greg_L-W.

I do not for a moment claim this to be the whole story but clearly it reflects the style of governance in this obscene self serving scam amongst its self selected political elite and the con they pass off as democratic!
The EU is clearly the most staggering swindle in the history of mankind – a giant Ponzi Scheme not content with dishonestly stealing money from the public and then printing amounts suitable to fit their scams, thereby forcing prices up in all areas and debasing the value of the currency in the hands of the long suffering peones – this scam has reached such epic proportions they have issued two entirely artificial fake currencies to further fund their personal ambitions and the idiocy of the political elite!

They invented the now collapsing EUro the days of which are now severely limited by its own failure and a further attempt was made to invent a fake global currency of exchange with the utterly corrupt and clearly contrived ‘Carbon Currency’ of no value nor legitimacy being merely a methodology of transfering currency from the poor to the rich in return for absolutely nothing!

It is quite astonishing that some people still believe that IGCs and Budget Conferences have any meaning whatsoever as they are just the play acting and flim flam of a collection of sordid crooks with no moral mandate to spend one cent of OUR hard earned money!

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What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.

They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then  still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.

Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!

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A Summary of UKIP’s Plight & Failure as a Party

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 29/11/2012

A Summary of UKIP’s Plight & Failure as a Party

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Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

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The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

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A Summary of UKIP’s Plight & Failure Past, Present & Future as a Party with its clear lack of leadership!

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when a point has been well made it is never a good idea to make it all over again and risk diluting its validity and it is for that reason that I quote the words of Team Junius on their blog:

UKIP: Words of Wisdom

Forget all this nonsense about UKIP surging in popularity. We’ve heared it all before. Year after year we are told by Farage and his useful idiots that UKIP is about to make it into the major league. And every year ends in failure and defeat. We were told that UKIP would win seats in Westminster. They didn’t. We were told that they were going to win seats in the Welsh Assembly and Scottish Parliament elections. They didn’t. We were told that Farage would win in Buckingham. He didn’t. We were told UKIP would see members elected as police chiefs. They weren’t. We were told that UKIP would win the Corby by-election. They didn’t. And the same goes for Rotherham.
To quote Junius on UKIP at: CLICK HERE

Here are some words of wisdom from The Telegraph regarding this false dawn BUT and it is a very big ‘BUT’ the article which is a blog published on the Telegraph web site and NOT an article for a professional journalist on the Telegraph pay roll.

The Telegraph hosts a number of blogs as an internet host and does not neccessarily endorse the views or veracity of these blogs.

That said, in principle I do endorse the comments and have republished them as a fair and reasonable account of the inevitable long term failure of UKIP following on the abject failure in domestic politics to date:

Ukip aren’t surfing a wave:

they’re standing in a rockpool,

watching the tide go out Ukip aren’t surfing a wave. 

Don Farage squares up to the EU windmills

Sorry, but it isn’t going to happen. In 1983 the SDP were going to break the mould of British politics; they didn’t. In 1989 the Greens were going to transform the British political landscape; they couldn’t. And in 2015 the great Ukip breakthrough will disintegrate upon the unyielding wall of electoral reality.

This morning the Tweed Army are on a roll. They are surging in Rotherham on the back of the fostering scandal. As this paper reports today, no fewer than eight Tory MPs are said to be in discussion with Sir Stewart Wheeler about possible defection. And opinion poll after opinion poll shows Ukip snapping furiously at the heels of the flatlining Liberal Democrats.

It’s a false dawn. However noble their cause, or steely their resolve, Nigel Farage and his irregulars are marching towards defeat.

Ukip are not a political force, but a political curiosity. In years to come many a pub quiz trophy will be won by those who can correctly answer the question: “What was the name of the guy who ran the anti-EU party? Begins with an N.”

In life there are rules. What goes up will come down. The Earth rotates around the Sun, not vice versa. And come election time, minor British political parties get squeezed out of existence.

It may not be fair. It may not be healthy. But them’s the facts. And unfortunately, they are immutable.

Of course, come June 2014, when next year’s European votes are counted, there’s going to be a whole lot of muting going on. Ukip will be in the process of recording their greatest ever election triumph. The Tories will have been beaten into a humiliating third place. Eurosceptic MPs will be fanning out across the airways demanding action and the summary execution of Ken Clarke.

And then nothing will happen. A year later Ukip will run, they will fight and they will lose. There will be no Ukip MPs. Their impact on sitting Tory MPs will have been negligible. They will have 3 or at a stretch 4 per cent of the vote to show for their efforts.

How can my cold, Leftist eyes penetrate the political crystal ball so clearly? Well, for one thing, I’m not a Ukip supporter, so I’m unencumbered by the hope and expectation attending several of those currently predicting a national outbreak of Farage Mania.

The truth, if you care to look for it, is out there. Firstly, there is the electoral system. Ukip cannot make a breakthrough in 2015 because the system they will be fighting under has been specifically designed to prevent them from making that breakthrough. It was not built to further the political ambitions of free spirits such as Citizen Farage. It was created to crush them underfoot; and so it will.

 

Then there is the second big problem facing Nigel Farage’s party: he hasn’t got one. In relative terms, Ukip have no money, no infrastructure and no activists. They have no organisational expertise, no strategy expertise and no policy expertise. Yes, they punch above their weight in the media, but that’s because much of the media is instinctively sympathetic to their agenda, not because of any presentational acumen. Not so long ago Ukip’s idea of a communications strategy was to wind up Robert Kilroy-Silk and let him go.

Then there is a third obstacle. Ukip are a single-issue organisation, campaigning on an issue most voters couldn’t care less about. According to Mori’s latest issue tracker, only 5 per cent of voters regard Europe as one of the most important issues facing the country. At the time of the 1997 election that figure stood at 43 per cent. Ukip aren’t surfing a wave, they’re paddling in a rock pool watching the tide go out.

People can spend the next couple of years preparing with mounting excitement for Ukip’s moment. But come the next election, the fix will be in. That tiny percentage of voters who rate Europe as the defining issue will have a clear choice. The EurowaryEurophile – if not fully obsessive – Prime Minister Miliband. Nigel Farage – no debate, no money, no activists, no infrastructure, no hope of a seat, never mind power – won’t get a look-in.

That’s the problem with being a lone warrior. It’s lonely.

To read the original: LINK

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Regards,

Greg_L-W..

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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.

They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then  still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01594 – 528 337

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS: ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.

Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!

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UKIP Racism, The Social Services & Common Purpose

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 29/11/2012

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Article 50 revisited!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/11/2012

Article 50 revisited!
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Article 50 revisited! Courtesy of Dr. Richard North, Christopher Booker and further to CLICK HERE!!

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Hi,
my postings and attention have been a little distracted, for which I apologise, as I have taken a few days off to have a heart attack – IF you are interested there are further details on my health blog at: http://greglw.blogspot.co.uk
Back at home I have taken some time in catching up with the vagaries and stupidities of UKIP leadership and their foolish willingness to preen in faux praise like performing monkeys and small children.
So those who wish for a more accurate assessment of recent events may find the articles on UKIP racism, extremism and right wing bigotry at:
http://EUAlliance.blogspot.co.UK
or:
or consider:
CLICK HERE
and those wishing to be informed may wish to consider the press articles and comments on various publications of interest at:
The Essex Press: CLICK HERE Or CLICK HERE
or the Derbyshire press at:
CLICK HERE Or CLICK HERE Or EVEN HERE
Clearly UKIP has had great good fortune in the stupidity and utterly irresponsible behaviour of Social Services at Rotheram which will, in the short term boost UKIP’s candidate Jane Collins far beyond her democratic merits as just another corrupt and undemocratic placement by UKIP leadership, and the time scale of the good fortune is excellent as it permits no time for responsible journalists to actually expose the undeniable dishonesty, corruption and racist associations.UKIP will of course be used, by flattery, as apawn to bring pressure on the government if not embarrassment as it is this level of childish tittle tattle that sells newspapers in a period between elections.

Clearly since we speak of a Yorkshire by election it is worth being minded of the old Yorkshire saying of:
‘The higher up the tree the monkey climbs
The more you see its ‘R’s.’Oh how very true of UKIP leadership who are such simpletons they are to vain to believe they are merely being used – Clearly there is not a wit of danger that someone so irrelevant and corrupted as Jane Collins could be elected so to make much of the situation for column inches and sales is merely journalistic mischief making.

On the more weighty issue of the desire of the common members of UKIP and most of the British peoples to Leave-The-EU the merits of a Referendum, a Royal Commission and Article 50 are of far greater significance than the idiotic and irresponsible behaviour of Farage, Bloom, Batten, Michael Fabricant and the like whilst UKIP’s sole performing monkey of any merit is still Nigel Farage as shown by thwe incompetence of Paul Nuttall in the media or the light weight and incompetent input of UKIP’s spokeswoman on the regional section of Andrew Neill’s programme on Sunday where her irrelevancy and ineptitude is writ large from 40 minutes onwards at: CLICK HERE

I have written on numerous occasions of the importance of Article #50 but permit me the indollence of merely republishing Richard North’s most recent piece on the subjest which makes many of the relevant points and also points out just how crss are those supposedly advising UKIP’s leadership!

EU politics: another modest proposal

Monday 26 November 2012

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On 7 July 2012, Booker raised the issue of Article 50, as a means of withdrawing from the EU. The piece drew a response from “veteran campaigner”, Torquil Dick-Erikson, in the following terms:

Article 50 is a trap: In the typical Napoleonic-state style, with one hand it purports to grant a right, the right to withdraw from the EU, but with the other hand it restricts it, so much so that it reduces it to nothing. The catch, hidden within article 50, lies in the two-year waiting period that a withdrawing state must wait before it can consider itself sovereign once again, if no agreement on the terms of withdrawal is reached with the others.

He was answered (by me) thus:

I would suggest that you have misread the Article. The two year period is a maximum, unless there is an agreed extension. See 50(3):

The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.

In this instance, Torquil did not respond to the comment. But again, this time on 24 November 2012, Booker raised the issue of Article 50. And we got this from Torquil Dick-Erikson:

What Booker does not deal with here is the fact that Article 50 imposes a forced 2-year waiting period on any State that announces its intention to leave, and that does not wish to supinely accept the terms that the remaining EU would want to impose on it …

Christopher Booker has raised the idea of using article 50 before in his column. And here he is doing so again. I hope that next time he will deal with the issue of the enforced two-year waiting period that is imposed by this article. An imposition that prevents us from conducting negotiations for a new arrangement from the strong position of regained sovereignty.

Again he was answered:

Article 50 does not impose “a forced 2-year waiting period on any State that announces its intention to leave”. The article actually says:

The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.

It thus sets a maximum timescale for the negotiations, of two years, which may be extended by mutual consent.

As before, Torquil did not respond to the comment. Instead (and as before), he e-mailed his own comment – and only his comment – to a select group of activists, reinforcing his own view that the only way to leave the EU was to repeal the European Communities Act 1972 – a proposition with which his correspondents completely agree.

My response last time was to note that there is a group of eurosceptics imbued with an absolute determination to fail. To keep the faith, they confine their discussions to themselves, never engaging in debate with anyone outside their circle. However, their malign influence on the likes of UKIP ensures the currency of a policy line – immediate withdrawal from the EU – which hands the game on a platter to the other side.

They offer a strategy guaranteed to maximise the disruption and uncertainty, reinforcing the europhile claims that leaving the EU would be a “disaster”. Under the terms of our eurosceptic clique, it most certainly would be so.

Out problem is that, as long as this self-deceiving rump of eurosceptics maintain their position, the likes of David Cameron can appear entirely reasonable in rejecting the idea of withdrawal. Only if they offered a well-structured exit plan, aimed at minimising disruption, would the eurosceptic doctrine pose a real threat.

There, of course, Mr Cameron has a way of completely neutralising the eurosceptic threat, if he choose to take it. With his very substantial resources, he could devise his own exit plan, couched in such terms as to make it clear that we would no longer be members of the EU, but defining a new relationship that was very litte different from full membership.

That would involve the UK withdrawing from the existing treaties which place our nations in the EU, instead forging a new treaty which would have the UK in alliance with the EU. That would entirely confirm with the traditional British policy towards Europe – interested but not absorbed.

Currently, in the pages of the Independent, Tory MP Michael Fabricant advises Mr Cameron to do a deal with UKIP. He should, the Conservative vice-chairman says, set out plans for a referendum on EU membership in exchange for UKIP not standing in the next general election.

On the other hand, there is no need for a referendum. Instead, Cameron could invoke Article 50, offering precisely the “new relationship” with the EU which he professes to want. This would bury UKIP completely. A Conservative Party, genuinely seeking a new settlement with “Europe” would leave Farage and his not-as-merry-men completely stranded, electorally isolated with nowhere to go.

However, there is another, perhaps more important reason why Cameron should take this line. Apart from the electoral advantages, which could guarantee him victory at the next general election, the constant bickering over EU membership is a dangerous distraction from the business of government. In order to focus on the issues at hand, this issue needs to be settled – and it will not go away of its own accord.

Invoking Article 50 and negotiating a new relationship with the EU is entirely compatible with Conservative Party policy, and with Mr Cameron’s personal aspirations. The fact that it is an option so hated by the eurosceptic groupescules could be taken as a bonus.

Richard North 26/11/2012

IF you wish for further direct comment on the issues surrounding Article 50 you may follow up at CLICK HERE
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The Maths Land UKIP Deeper in the mire!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/11/2012

The Maths Land UKIP Deeper in the mire!

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Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

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The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

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The Maths Land UKIP Deeper in the mire!
Showing the abject failure of UKIP however imaginitivly they try to spin the facts!

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Hi,
my thanks to an anonymous poster from Preston but the facts he has gathered show all too clearly just how catastrophic are UKIP’s results as he has collected together UKIP’s best ever by Election results.
These results show that in a 20 year period UKIP has risen to utter obscurity as far as the ballot is concerned – there just aren’t that many votes left for also rans!With a mere 5,108 votes as the highest they have ever had apparently it shows they are nowhere near getting a parliamentary seat in domestic elections in any meaningful foreseeable future.

UKIPs best by-election results (in terms of percentage share) Margot Parker (Corby, 2012) [14.3]
Jane Collins (Barnsley Central, 2011) [12.2]
Glenn Tingle (Norwich North, 2009) [11.8]
Stephen Allison (Hartlepool, 2004) [10.2]
Nigel Farage (Bromley etc. 2006) 8.1%
Simon Zeigler (Cardiff South and Penarth, 2012) [6.1]

In terms of actual votes

Margot Parker (Corby, 2012) 5,108
Glenn Tingle (Norwich North, 2009) 4,068
Jane Collins (Barnsley Central, 2011) 2,953
Stephen Allison (Hartlepool, 2004) 2,347
Nigel Farage (Bromley and Chislehurst, 2006) 2,347.

From another perspective one could rate their failure in what position the achieved relative to the only position of ANY value:

Jane Collins (Barnsley Central, 2011) 2nd
Margot Parker (Corby, 2012) 3rd
Stephen Allison (Hartlepool, 2004) 3rd
Nigel Farage (Bromley & Chislehurst, 2006) 3rd
Glenn Tingle (Norwich North, 2009) 4th

That Jane Collins achieved 2nd. place with less than 3,000 votes shows most clearly just how irrelevant is ANY position other than a win!

The results are really rather predictable in view of the calliber of candidate and the corruption within UKIP’s selection process, which gets worse with every election they fiddle their way through!

Interestingly in the nationwide PCC elections out of 193 candidates for 41 seats UKIP was soundly beaten in ALL seats losing its deposit in most and with a meager 350,597 votes nationwide for a ‘claimed’ 7.3% of the electorate though it is not clear if that was in the seats where they stood or in total – IF for the 24 seats inwhich thwey stood that would put them on less than 4%.

Clearly whichever way they try to spin it their results were risible in EVERY election announced yesterday as with EVERY domestic election in their history having been founded in early 1993.

However it must be remembersed that UKIP is more a cult than a movement and its pretence at being a party has been a joke.

The future, in my opinion, lies in the hands of Independents in one form or another. Party politics is slowly collapsing under the strain of corruption, self interest and dishonesty.

Consider the FACT that no mainstream party has EVER clearly stated their total irrelevance now that over 75% of our laws are undemocratically imposed upon us by a foreign and malign cadre of unelected bureaucrats manipulating self serving politicians to ensure they cancel themselves out and wherein Britain has less than 8% say.

MPs no longer have a job much beyond super annuated social workers listening to grievances of abuse, employment and boundary disputes – even taxation is determined by The EU.

The rebellion will be by the people and through Independents who make a point of being well informed and scrupulously honest and transparent, unlike UKIP and the politicians of the other minor parties or the entire raft of Tory & Labour.

Whilst working towards liberation and giving the people a say these Independents and their supporters will be striving, through initiatives like The Harrogate Agenda and WDAR to ensure the method of politics changes and the decision makingb is handed to the people not the self serving political elite and the civil servants who dedicate their lives and careers to the destruction of Britain for and on behalf of The EU scam.

Regards,

Greg_L-W..

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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.

They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then  still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS: ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.

Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!

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