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Stuart WHEELER UKIP Treasurer protects HIS money!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/10/2012

Stuart WHEELER UKIP Treasurer protects HIS money!
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this an interesting letter from UKIP’s much proclaimed multi millionaire backer – seemingly their only backer of consequence!

Dear ****

 

When I was rich I gave the Tories £5 million. Later, disillusioned with their utter failure to do anything about the EU, I gave UKIP money and voted UKIP in the 2009 euro-elections. The Tories expelled me, which was quite reasonable, and lied about how they had done it, which was not.

 

I am now Treasurer of UKIP. Our finances are slightly better than they were, but that is not saying much (and mine are much worse!). We badly need money which we do not have, to fight at least three by-elections in November. The most high profile will be Corby, where the Conservative MP Louise Mensch, is resigning her seat. 

 

We are following on from UKIP’s best ever Conference in Birmingham. The media coverage our party is now receiving is like never before and the British political establishment is recognising that UKIP is more popular than ever before.  

 

Your support over the next few months is absolutely critical for UKIP to succeed.

 

Stuart Wheeler was at one time a highly successful professional gambler who sold the gambling business he built up for around £90Million – his proud boast was, as I recall, the speed at which he halved this win in a short space of time by making bad investments and bad decisions!

As a gambler it seems he had fairly consistent good luck but as a businessman it seems his competence was fast getting through his winnings!

Stuart Wheeler clearly did not trust UKIP as a condition of his support was, we understand, that he became treasurer but even as treasurer he seemed unable to take sensible actions to protect either UKIP, its members or its reputation – refusing to investigate the lies and corruption that were the very foundation of the accounts he demanded to control!

You will note that he still has in the team the utterly dishonest Mick McGough, the fantasist and fool Douglas Denny, yjr inept and divisive self seeker Lisa Duffy, the proven liar and charlatan Derek Clark the various outright racists willing to work with the scum of EU politics in the overtly racist, anti homosexual, anti Jewish EFD Group which Nigel Farage is a co leader of!

Stuart Wheeler has also kept on the serial liar Mick McGough and I note his old cronie Andrew Smith for whom he was something of a bag carrier is still considered acceptable to UKIP despite the utter disorder in which he left UKIP accounts when he was so called treasurer quitting in something of a panic and leaving Alan Bown to try, and fail abysmally, to field some 28 simple questions regarding the shambols in which UKIP’s accounts were maintained and let us not forget that it was during his brief that John Moran, Alan Bown & Nigel Farage were seemingly acting in concert to raise money via something of a scam called the Ashford Call Center where only just over 10% of the money raise in the name of UKIP was ever to reach UKIP’s account with one sum alone, known to be around £1/4Million, being paid to a private bank account and large sums seemingly laundered through credit card accounts held by Graham Booth.

As treasurer Stuart Wheeler is all too happy to protect his own money but clearly cares not a jot what other money is seemingly purloined nor by whom!

Strange ethics for a man of his means and status!

We also note that Stuart Wheeler would seem happy to have his money associated with the overt racism of both Malcol;m Pearson in promoting his odious Zionist values and the apparent incitement to racial hatred on the part of Gerard Batten who has, in UKIP’s impramature published what can only rationally be called extremist anti Islamic pamphlets based on his own personal prejudices and superstitions.

Also still on Stuart Wheeler’s team is the idiotic little Douglas Denny who sought to orchestrate a kangaroo court against a loyal UKIP regional chairman seemingly just so the utterly corrupt Derek Clark could have sole control of the East Midlands region where subsequently he was found guilty of purloining some £30 > 40K of tax payers money and was ordered to repay it – It was also Douglas Denny who did so much to aid and assist the corruption of Tom Wise blocking every effort to have a disciplinary hearing to either clear his name or throw him out of UKIP for his theft of public money which eventually saw him sentenced to 2 years in prison despite Nigel Farage’s lies on the media to protect himself!

As I recall it was Stuart Wheeler who promised to donate £10K per MEP to match their donation of £10K each – As yet I do not believe Stuart Wheeler has paid out one red cent on these terms as it seems that no UKIP MEP has donated £10,000.

Well who could be expected to pay £100,000 of their own money amongst UKIP’s MEPs for any but personal gain – yes several have in the past made sizeable contributions towards their own election campaigns and maintaining their profile in their region – well of course as it is a sound investment when you consider a one off payment of around £50K for an MEP would likely win them some £80K in payment from the tax p[ayers as what is risibly considered a salary plus of course 10s of £1,000s in attendance allowances and huge amounts surplus in travel costs not to mention the ability in the past to pay their wives and family inflated salaries for little or nothing – of course paying £50 or £100K to ensure a place on the gravy train makes sense.

Where pray are the meaningfull altruistic donations to the party?

I gather none have been made for some considerable time and iot is noted as UKIP’s plastic EUroSceptics leave office none so far has made any notable contribution from their obscenely high severance receipt or their publicly funded most generous pensions much of which it seems was funded by extra monthly payments syphoned from their office allowances!

A quick check of The Electoral Commission site shows clearly that no UKIP MEP has ever made any significant donations to the party!

It seems Stuart Wheeler’s money is safe and anyway in UKIP ‘who cares about the little people’!

We also note that Gerard Batten is further out of favour than heretofore as it seems Nigel Farage, Lisa Duffy and others are actively campaigning for the buffoon Winston McKenzie to be the lead candidate in London – I totally endorse the dumping of the odious and corrupt Gerard Batten and his vile apparent incitement to race hate based on his personal superstitions but surely there must be someone of some stature and gravitas left who supports UKIP who would make a rational candidate as scraping the barrel with candidates like Winston McKenzie, Andrew Smith, Niel Hamilton, Marta Andreassen, Godfrey Bloom, Steve Crowther, Stuart Agnew and their ilk shows UKIP to be not just a failure but something of a joke in poor taste!

One looks at UKIP’s elected officials, elected officers, selected candidates and the scum that form the leadership claque surrounding and promoting the leadership cliwue itself and one can only feel sad to see the dirth of competence, the lack of ability, the absence of gravitas and the invisibility of ethics – a whole party of almost 20 years standing and not only have they not delivered a single solitary result in terms of Leave-The-EU, which is their elected brief, but bereft of anyone of stature or ability who could be expected to deliver anything much more complex than a serious dose of herpes!

Stuart Wheeler believes in the cause of Leave-The-EU and has fallen amongst theives and fools but clearly lacks the ethics or time, at his age, to have a more rewarding hobby – but to be sure he intends to protect his money as treasurer even though he has made it abundantly clear he cares not about fraud, deceit, embezzlement, theft, false accounting, misrepresentation, outright lies – well I guess as long as HIS money is protected for as he says he is loosing it at a faster rate than he made it!

I wonder if Stuart Wheeler has been asked to fund any of UKIP leadership’s netoriously dishonest and corrupt court cases and the lies on which they are so often founded or is payment for these escapades down to the much abused members! I gather despite a most generous health plan for MEPs funded from the public purse that Nigel Farage went so far as to seek to ‘tap up’ the long suffering members for money on account of his light aircraft stunt when it went wrong!

Presumably he will therefore be paying any and all monies he receives from insurance claims in the matter to the party coffers rather than to further bolster his off shore tax avoidance accounts including his Farage Educational Trust in the Isle of Mann where one one occasion a deposit matching monies that went into a UK private account were subsequently deposited it seems!

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Racism In Sport, & Extremist Politicians

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/10/2012

Racism In Sport, & Extremist Politicians

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Hi,There is an interesting op-ed in New EUrope today, which can be viewed on line at: CLICK HERE

Racism is a very dangerous word

Article | October 9, 2012 – 9:38am | By Nikki Sinclaire MEP
Chelsea and England footballer John Terry leaves Westminster Magistrates court in London

Chelsea and England footballer John Terry leaves Westminster Magistrates court in London | Chelsea and England footballer John Terry leaves Westminster Magistrates court in London.| AFP PHOTO / WILL OLIVER

Once somebody is labelled as a racist, it is a very difficult tag to get rid of. It is something that clings onto your name in newspaper reports. It is something that tarnishes your reputation as a player. Once again, the subject of racism in football has resurfaced.

Last week saw England’s John Terry fined £220,000 and banned for four matches after being charged with racially abusing QPR’s Anton Ferdinand.

I don’t think anyone disputes that if you are found guilty of racism that you should be punished. However, the English Football Association’s way of punishing people seems rather odd.

Last year Joey Barton was banned for 12 matches for violent conduct, as well as being fined £75,000. Liverpool’s Luis Suarez was found guilty by the FA of racially abusing Patrice Evra, and was suspended for 8 matches and fined £40,000. Back in 2003, Rio Ferdinand was banned for 8 months and fined £50,000 for missing a drugs test.

Yesterday, former England captain John Terry was found guilty of racially abusing a fellow professional and was banned for 4 matches and fined £220,000.

I’m hoping that it is as apparent to you as it is to me that there simply is no consistency in the punishments that the FA is now using to deal with its players.

Using the above examples, do we then suppose that the FA rates missing a drugs test as a crime which is far greater than racially abusing a fellow player? Is displaying violence on the pitch a crime far greater than using words that are totally unacceptable in our society?

We’re very lucky that in the UK that we live in a society that doesn’t tolerate racism, and we even have initiatives set up and funded by sports clubs, such as the Kick it Out, campaign that reinforce this message.

Racism isn’t tolerated within our football grounds and football in the UK is all the better for it. This is probably what makes the John Terry case all the more surprising. A former England captain is not the sort of person you expect to be embroiled in a case such as this. To even be accused of something such as racism is something which jars with our culture.

As a Liverpool fan, it makes me question why John Terry was banned for just 4 games whilst Suarez got 8. If the FA wants to make a statement about how they deal with racism, then they need to have fixed guidelines of what the ban should be. In fact, if they want to prevent outbursts of this nature and show a real stance against racism, then they should make bans even longer.

The FA need to set the example to the world, as other governing bodies are not strong enough in their punishment of racism.. The Spanish and Russian football federations were both charged by UEFA after their fans were heard to be making racist chants and even monkey noises towards black players. The fine for this offence was just €30,000 and €20,000 respectively.

In 2012, we all like to believe we live in a civilised society. A civilised society does not tolerate behaviour such as this and football needs to kick it out, once and for all.

To which I have replied on their site as follows:

Greg_Lance-Watkins a few seconds ago

Hi,

it is interesting to note just how unjust the concepts of ‘Justice’ are when it comes to racism, Holocaust Denial, anti homosexuality, anti Judaism and the like.

On the one hand we have prison sentences, as with David Irvine, huge but very varied fines, as with footballers, and complete indifference, as with politicians!

Many will have noted that Farage not only has a conviction, for which he and Godfrey Bloom were merely censured, but that he led UKIP and British politicians into the most vile of EU Groups The EFD he leads! The EFD is overtly racist, harbours convicted racial abusers, Holocaust deniers, anti Jewish, anti homosexuals who advocate extremism, abuse and violence in persuit of their evil values.

We eve4n note that Nigel Farage is a leader of this odious extremist group where members of the organisation went as far as to offer some succour to Anders Breivik but I guess with Nigel Farage’s background and links with first The National Front and then The BNP through not only his own family but his own aspirations on can hardly be surprised that he formed the Group and takes no action to censure the apparent incitement to racial and religious hatred, based upon their own prejudices and superstitions, of such as Gerard Batten and Malcolm Lord Pearson – both of whom are well documented as extremists with various pamphlets and videos in support of their odious religious superstitions which denigrate and incite hatred of others whose values differ.

It is sad that no one seems able to either codify the degree of criminality or consistently ignore these issues but offer support from the tax payers on the one hand whilst fining footballers ludicrous sums on the other.

Do we the people have freedom of speech or is it only politicians like Gerard Batten and Malcolm Pearson and their ilk who enjoy such hard won privileges?

It is hardly surprising politicians are held in such contempt when they behave thus! Footballers, bull fighter, boxers, clowns and janglers are not hired for their intellect, their values, their vision or judgement but for their prowess in their field – why then are they made scape goats of as they often come from the background where such prejudices are endemic and represent no one but themselves – Unlike Politicians who have prominence because they were elected or chosen to represent others as leaders and servants, surely it is they who should be the scapegoats.

We have seen how in protecting their in house criminality the police have lost the respect of many amongst the public – similarly we thus have an explanation why politicians are held in such disrepute as they line their pockets and abuse the system at our expense.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

I must say for the record that I am strenuously opposed to racism, overt opposition to the superstitions of others that are deemed within the law, anti homosexuality, anti Judaism and the like and have actively campaigned against theser odious prejudices and those who support the divisive and vile practices.

I am also strenuously opposed to the dishonesty of many who exploit these various prejudices for their own gain as with Zionists who label all discussion of the obscene behaviour of their extremist associates in the Middle East and American politics particularly as anti Semetic – a catch phrase of little meaning as Zionists have so debased it – minded that the Palestine peoples are of course Semites whatever their chosen superstitions or beliefs!
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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.

They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then  still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

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PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS: ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.

Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!

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Some Thoughts & reports on ‘We Demand A Referendum’

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/10/2012

Some Thoughts & reports on ‘We Demand A Referendum’
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Some Thoughts & reports on ‘We Demand A Referendum’!

A cause whose time has come?

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You will find the poll commissioned by ‘We Demand A Referendum’ campaign of both interest and of use in achieving our aims.

YouGov Poll: Majority of Public Do Not Trust Cameron on EU.

A YouGov Poll released today by the newly formed We Demand A Referendum Party shows the majority of electorate DO NOT have trust in David Cameron to stand up for British interests in the European Union.

The poll reveals that 54% do not have trust compared to 38% that do.
The same YouGov poll also reveals that the gap between those who wish to see an EU Referendum (62%) widening over those who do not (24%). In a YouGov Poll last month the figures for the same question were 56% to 28% respectively.
Worryingly for David Cameron the poll shows that almost three out of four Conservative voters want a Referendum.
The single issue We Demand A Referendum Party held their inaugural conference in London on Friday issued an ultimatum to the Prime Minister that if he failed to facilitate a In/Out Referendum by 1st January 2014 they would stand in every region in the next European Elections under the banner ‘We Demand A Referendum’ A YouGov Poll last month showed between 16% and 33% of the electorate would vote for them in June 2014 earning them between 8 and 22 seats.
Party Chairman, Nikki Sinclaire MEP said “These results show there is increasing support from across the political spectrum for an EU Referendum – When will the politicians listen to the people?”
The West Midlands MEP added “The economic crisis has changed the ball game in Europe. Fundamental changes are underway, now is the time to decide once and for all which fork in the road to take.”
Sorry – the layout of the tables is near unusable! You will find a more readable version on You Gov’s web site!
YouGov Survey Results
Sample Size: 2083 GB Adults
Fieldwork: 3rd – 4th October 2012
  Voting intention 2010 Vote Gender Age Social grade Region
Total Con Lab Lib Dem Con Lab Lib Dem Male Female 18-24 25-39 40-59 60+ ABC1 C2DE London Rest of South Midlands / Wales North Scotland
Weighted Results 2083 484 694 147 615 508 496 1012 1071 252 531 712 587 1187 896 267 677 446 512 181
Unweighted Sample 2083 532 608 130 689 446 488 1030 1053 117 479 848 639 1397 686 253 733 427 487 183
% % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % %
Do you think the government should or should not hold a referendum on whether or not Britain remains a member of the European Union?
Should 62 72 58 42 76 61 50 62 61 34 53 67 74 57 68 58 61 64 63 60
Should Not 24 19 29 45 15 28 38 29 19 40 28 21 18 29 19 30 25 22 20 29
Don’t know 14 9 13 13 9 11 13 8 20 27 19 11 8 14 14 12 14 14 16 11
How much trust, if any, to you have in David Cameron to stand up for British interests in the European Union.
A great deal of trust 6 20 1 4 13 1 5 6 5 7 7 6 5 8 3 7 8 4 5 6
A fair amount of Trust 32 61 18 54 49 17 38 35 30 31 39 31 29 38 25 35 37 32 26 31
TOTAL GREAT DEAL / FAIR AMOUNT OF TRUST 38 81 19 58 62 18 43 41 35 38 46 37 34 46 28 42 45 36 31 37
Not much trust 30 15 36 33 25 33 35 29 31 32 26 29 35 28 33 36 32 29 30 22
No trust at all 24 1 41 5 9 44 17 27 21 16 17 28 28 19 31 16 18 26 33 27
TOTAL NOT MUCH TRUST / NO TRUST 54 16 77 38 34 77 52 56 52 48 43 57 63 47 64 52 50 55 63 49
Don’t Know 7 2 5 3 3 5 5 3 12 14 11 6 2 7 7 6 5 9 7 14

I have reposted below the report from Gary Cartwright of the actual meeting/conference for two reasons – namely that he was there as part of the organisation and secondly as he is well informed as a long term employee of The EU.

Saturday, 6 October 2012

Campaign for a Referendum: Conference a Great Success!

Its always nice to spend a couple of days in London, even if it is a working visit.

On Thursday evening I was delighted to meet Katie Hopkins for the first time: she is absolutely the right person for the campaign, as her media appearences to date have proved. We were joined at dinner at the Victory Services Club by Nikki and a number of senior members of the team, and also Roger Knapman and his wife Carolyn, as well as former Lib-Dem councillor David McGrath and his wife, both of whom I know from the campaign to clear an illegal travellers camp in Meriden. The cross-party demographics of this campaign team give us both integrity and depth.

But the real reason for the trip was our inaugural conference in Westminster. The day began with Katie appearing on ITN’s Daybreak, and by the end of the first round of speakers we were on the front page of the BBC news website. Christian Party Leader George Hargreaves, and the US broadcaster and political analyst Charlie Wolf both gave excellent speeches, adding depth to the debate on our membership of the EU and what it means for our democratic integrity.

It was a chance to catch up with old friends from various parties, including one Conservative MEP, and to meet new people.

No surprise that UKIP had at least two spotters outside, reporting back on who was attending – I suspect that a few people will be getting some unpleasant phone calls or letters from their branch chairman shortly!

Two motions were passed by conference: the first calling on HMG to establish a Royal Commission to set the terms of reference for the referendum, the second calling on the PM to call a binding referendum before Jan 1st 2014.

A great success!

To view the original on Gary Cartwright’s Brussels blog CLICK HERE
I gather from several people who were there that the inagural conference surpassed most expectations in terms of its cross party contribution, its disinterest in UKIP, seen by many as having failed and now discreditted sliding towards the history books as such, and also my contacts were pleasantly surprised at the calliber of the speeches and presentations which at many such events are all too frequently too slick, too smug and too banal delivering nothing.I am fairly reliably informed the attendance was just over 70, which although shy of the 100 I had hope for was a successful result for such short term and also in the light of the childish attacks that have so demeaned UKIP!

I note that the Tory defector and UKIP turncoat David Bannerman was present, presumably having quit the Tories due to his failure and having been put in place in Farage’s party as an MEP in the apparent realisation that he was singularly unlikely to be re-elected having seen through the corruption of UKIP he defected back to the Tories and now having realised the Tories select their prospective MEP lists rather more fairly and with considerably more integrity than UKIP he stood little chance of being above 4th. or 5th. on the list and thus not a hope of being re-elected.

It seems probable that David Bannerman was looking for a new place to hang his hat and some prospect of getting back on the gravy train with his snout in the troughs that are The EU.

It was interesting to see Tony Schofield there but as yet he still seems not to have been fully weened of his love affair with UKIP which though it has turned sour leaves him in hope over experience.

I do endorse the decision and commend to you the fact that liars and low lifes Mick McGough and John Moran were made unwelcome and asked not to enter the meeting – they have shown in much detail their lack of ethics and dishonesty and clearly had nothing to offer the new organisation and would have proved a distraction and an embarrassment as they do in UKIP.

I gather McGough is not in favour at the moment having opposed the decision of Nigel Farage and Lisa Duffy to place the idiotic and discreditted self seeker Winston McKenzie in the key role – a more obvious political prostitute and self seeker would be hard to find anywhere but in the ranks of UKIP leadership’s claque.

Imagine if UKIP ever gained any position of authority how odious it would be – the centralised denial of any sense of democratic ethics, the McCarthy style infiltration of other people’s organisations, the keeping and making of lists of attendees, the odious bigots given status in UKIP, the prostitutes, the drunken yobbery, the corruption, the controlling nature, the centralised dictatorship and so many more anti democratic actions and controlling beliefs – They call it Libertarian!!!

Let us hope that the We Demand A Referendum moves forward from this limited success to greater things, which as the polls show are both populist and popular.
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BBC features ‘We Demand A Referendum’ campaign’s inagural Conference at Westminster Hall today!!

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You will also note that some odious coward has launched a site to defame and denigrate the efforts and patriotism of Nikki Sinclaire, Katie Hopkins and Gary Cartwright SO FAR!

Exactly as I predicted would happen to assist The EU and its army of bribed supporters.

Interesting that it is in almost the exact style of the UKIP site run by a vile little twerp, also too ashamed to put his name to his odious and self serving comments who passed himself off as Skeptyk – Usefull idiots are a dime a dozen and UKIP leadership would seem to have an overdose of them – One can understand the fact that they are embarrassed that ordinary people with ordinary backgrounds and no material funding from the public purse have shown them for what they are – USELESS!

Face facts: In 20 years at a cost of around £50,000,000 from the public purse UKIP has achieved the sum total of zero to move this country one fraction of an inch closer to the aim to Leave-The-EU but in a very short time as an elected MEP Team Sinclaire hasd achieved all this!

Hardly surprising the low lifes seek to attack Sinclaire!

Unlike UKIP’s MEPs none of this new Party’s main characters have been sent tyo prison and or ordered to repay huge sums to the public purse.

Further – unlike Farage, Titford, Graham Booth, Stuart Agnew, David Bannerman, Tom Wiser, and Derek Clark Nikki Sinclaire has not been investigated by OLAF that anyone has managed to show – nor is she under investigation unlike Stuart Agnew & David Bannerman whilst the rest were found guilty and had to pay back money they had missappropriated!

Lets leave the muck racking of private lives to the scum working to help The EU and concentrate on the efforts of Sinclaire, Hopkins, Cartwright and their supporters to gain an IN / OUT Referendum based on the results of a Royal Commission and a free, fair and equally funded Referendum without foreign intervention from The EU and its corrupt supporters!

We note the EU’s friends with their spoof site and tittle tattle have failed to show any single solitary offence of those in the new party that are not well known in spades from the shower of self serving UKIP leadership and their fellow travellers!

Shock Horror – we are told Katie Hopkins when single had an afair!

Wow – we are told that shortly after service to his country in The RAF Gary Cartwright was briefly involved, as he found his feet in civvie street with a strage group of politicians lets face it UKIP is a member of the overtly anti Jewish, anti homosexual, holocaust denying, racists and supporters of Anders Breivick – In fact Nigel Farage leads not only his party but the odious EFD extremist group in The EU’s gutters!

Good luck to The We Demand A Referendum campaign – I hope your conference will attract many more followers in the longer term, gain a Royal Commission and  work to Leave-The-EU!

New EU referendum party holding first conference

Katie HopkinsFormer Apprentice contestant Katie Hopkins is backing the new party

A former Apprentice contestant and several ex-UKIP politicians are among those attending the first meeting of a new party calling for a referendum on the UK’s membership of the EU.

The We Demand a Referendum party was launched last month by Nikki Sinclaire, a member of the European Parliament.

The party, whose slogan is “let the people the decide”, is holding its first conference in central London

Ms Sinclaire, who left UKIP in 2010, insists the party is not eurosceptic.

The party’s leading figures also include Roger Knapman – who led the UK Independence Party until 2006.

‘Distraction’Ms Sinclaire says We Demand a Referendum will stand candidates in every region in 2014’s European elections unless Prime Minister David Cameron sets the date for a vote to decide whether or not the UK remains a member of the European Union.

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If Mr Cameron won’t give us a vote, then we’ll simply demand one at the 2014 European elections”

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“We’ve proven that six out of 10 people now want a referendum on this issue,” she said.

“It is time to let the people decide. If Mr Cameron won’t give us a vote, then we’ll simply demand one at the 2014 European elections”.

A spokesman for the UK Independence Party, which has long campaigned for the UK to exit the EU, described We Demand a Referendum as a “distraction”.

“You’ve had a whole range of withdrawlist parties and independent candidates standing and all have sank without trace,” he said. “Their heart’s in the right place but we feel the same will happen in this instance.”

Other issuesJoining Ms Sinclaire at the party’s inaugural conference on Friday are Katie Hopkins, a former contestant on the BBC’s Apprentice show, and the right-wing broadcaster Charlie Woolf.

Ms Hopkins told the BBC’s Daily Politics in September that the party is also campaigning on issues such as traveller sites and fighting for small businesses.

Party founder Ms Sinclaire was suspended from UKIP in 2010 and subsequently expelled.

She has since won a sex discrimination claim against the party and, until recently, sat as an independent in Brussels.

Last year she was behind a petition of 100,000 signatures calling for a referendum on the UK’s future relationship with the EU.

The petition led to a House of Commons debate on the issue and 81 Conservative MPs defied David Cameron to support an “in-out” vote.

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Who might win a British referendum on Europe? AN OPINION!

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Who might win a British referendum on Europe? AN OPINION!

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Who might win a British referendum on Europe?
AN OPINION!
By: Peter Kellner of You.Gov. for E.C.F.R.!

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before reading Peter Kelners selective opinion on the outcome of an IN/OUT Referendum do read the two main questions below and the two versions in each question.
Then ask how you would have phrased them to obtain the answer YOU want!

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A special relationship with Europe?

Statement A:

‘Whether we like it or not, Britain must work especially closely with the rest of Europe if it is to prosper in the 21st century. That does not necessarily mean accepting the European Union as it is. Nor does it mean that Britain must work for a ‘United States of Europe’. It does mean that, inside or outside the EU, we must recognise that we are a European nation.’

38%
I agree with both statements to the same degree
14%

Statement B:

‘As an island with a long history of connections with the rest of the world, a major role in the Commonwealth and a ‘special relationship’ with the USA, Britain has no need to give extra weight to its links with the rest of Europe. Britain is most likely to prosper if it treats the rest of Europe as no more important to us than any other part of the world.’
35%

Neither / Don’t know
13%

Pro-EU v anti-EU

Statement A:

‘For all its faults, the European Union is a pioneering example of the way different countries can work together for mutual benefit. Over the past half century, the EU has helped Europe to become more peaceful, democratic and prosperous than at any time in the continent’s history.’
25%

I agree with both statements to the same degree
8%

Statement B:

‘The EU has failed. It is expensive, inefficient and overbearing. It stops the governments of member states from doing the things they need to do improve the lives of their citizens. The EU has had nothing to do with Europe being more peaceful, democratic and prosperous than it used to be.’
52%

Neither / Don’t know
14%

Source; YouGov; sample 1,743; Fieldwork: August 20-21, 2012

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Worried Nationalists, Pragmatic Nationalists and Progressive Internationalists – Who might win a British referendum on Europe?

By Peter Kellner – October 2012

In a democracy, public opinion always matters; but British attitudes to Europe matter more than usual. This is partly because a referendum on Britain and the EU in the next few years is a distinct possibility; partly because Europe is an especially divisive issue on the political Right, with the United Kingdom Independence Party threatening to overtake the Conservatives at the European Parliament elections in 2014; and partly because any major change in the way the EU works requires the consent of all EU members, so Britain has a veto – and all the main parties have promised that they will wield the veto unless they have public consent.
YouGov has conducted fresh research for ECFR into the roots of British attitudes to Europe. It finds that the attitudes of millions of voters to the EU are intimately linked to their view of Britain itself, to their view of how our society is evolving, and extent to which they want Britain to engage with the rest of the world generally.
However, before we examine these results, two initial points should be made.
The first is that Britons are consistently more Eurosceptic than the people of any other major EU country. For example in the Eurobarometer survey conducted earlier this year only 27% of Britons were very or fairly attached to the EU, last by a significant margin out of all member states (the EU average was 46% with the other five largest members registering between 60% and 45%). 72% of Britain were ‘not very’ or ‘not at all’ attached (the EU average was 52% with the other five largest states between 34% and 53%). Even though enthusiasm for the EU has waned in the countries hardest hit by the economic crisis (such as Spain, Italy and even Greece), they still remain keener Europeans than the British.
The second point is that millions of Britons think the issue of Europe matters a lot to Britain – but not to them and their families. Again, this is supported by polling. In a YouGov poll in August 2012 Britons named Europe as the fourth most important issue facing the country (of twelve that were listed, behind the economy, immigration and asylum, and health), but only the tenth most important for them and their families.
These two points raise important practical questions about the way public opinion might evolve in a referendum on Europe – either a straight in/out referendum on British
membership of the EU, or a vote on revisions to the EU treaties, or a general election in which Europe were a central issue. Such a contest would almost certainly raise the saliency of Europe in voters’ minds, probably a lot. Would our national scepticism weaken, or persist, or become more intense?
History provides one direct comparison – the referendum held in June 1975 on whether Britain should stay in the Common Market (as it then was). Then, as now, the Prime Minister, then Labour’s Harold Wilson, had a problem managing party divisions. Then, as now, most voters wanted to leave the Common Market (as it then was). Then, as now, polling (specifically, a Gallup Poll in November 1974) suggested that if the Prime Minister renegotiated the terms of Britain’s membership and recommended acceptance of the new terms, opinion would swing in favour of British membership.
Wilson did talk to his European partners, and did claim a great victory (though dispassionate observers could find very little change in Britain’s membership terms). And voters duly rewarded him with a 2-1 majority for staying ‘in Europe’.
Suppose that this time, a referendum were held after the Eurozone crisis fades, and David Cameron were able to say that he has been able to negotiate a deal that protects Britain’s interests. What then?
In July this year, YouGov asked this question: ‘Imagine the British government under David Cameron renegotiated our relationship with Europe and said that Britain’s interests were now protected, and David Cameron recommended that Britain remain a member of the European Union on the new terms. How would you then vote in a referendum on the issue?’
This time, 42% say they would vote to stay in, while 34% would vote to leave. Tory voters swing right round, from 58-29% for leaving the EU when we ask the conventional in-out referendum question, to 55-34% for staying in, if that is what the Prime Minister recommends.
This suggests that now, as in 1975, public opinion is not completely fixed. However, we tested just one hypothesis. The precise nature and context of any vote is hard to predict; and in any event, people are not always good predictors of their own attitudes two or three years ahead. Our results indicate the potential for volatility, not the certain outcome of an intensely-fought referendum campaign.
What we CAN do is explore the sources of public attitudes to Europe. Why do people think as they do about Britain and the EU? This is what YouGov’s fresh research for ECFR has sought to find out. We asked people to consider eight pairs of statements and say, in each case, which they agreed with more. Two pairs explored attitudes to Britain; another two, recent and future trends about life in Britain; two looked at attitudes to the world as a whole; the final two specifically considered Britain and Europe. The main table shows the results.
The roots of British attitudes to Europe
Here are some pairs of statements. For each pair, please indicate whether you agree more with Statement A or statement B.
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Traditions v values
Statement A – ‘The best things about Britain are to do with its history, geography and traditions – things like the monarchy, the countryside, warm beer and cricket on the village green, and our history of standing alone against Hitler in the Second World War.’
44
I agree with both statements to the same degree
25
Statement B – ‘The best things about Britain are to do with its values of tolerance, democracy and fair play – things like free speech, the right to protest, and the way we have welcomed people from all over the world who wish to settle here.’
21
Neither / Don’t know
10
Has Britain been going to the dogs?
Statement A – ‘Taking everything into account – especially modern technology (such as the Internet and mobile phones), rising life expectancy, more interesting jobs, the huge choice of food, clothes, culture and leisure opportunities that previous generations could only dream of – life in Britain today is generally better than it was 30 or 40 years ago.’
40
I agree with both statements to the same degree
16
Statement B – ‘Taking everything into account – especially large-scale immigration, high unemployment, unruly schools, drug pushing, drunken hooligans, lax moral standards and gang wars in many cities – life in Britain today is generally worse than it was 30 or 40 years ago.’
37
Neirther / Don’t know
7
Optimism v pessimism
Statement A – ‘Despite Britain’s current economic problems, I am basically confident about the long-term future. Our children’s generation is likely to end up enjoying a better standard of living than our generation, just as our generation has broadly been better off in material terms than our parents’ generation.’
23
I agree with both statements to the same degree
9
Statement B – ‘I am not at all confident that the pattern will continue, of each generation being better off than its parents’ generation. I fear that our children’s generation will find it harder throughout their lives than ours to enjoy a reasonable standard of living.’
59
Neither / Don’t know
9
British exceptionalism?
Statement A – ‘It’s understandable that people throughout the world are patriots who are proud of their own country. But Britain’s history and character make our country special. We really do have more reason to be proud of our country than people in most other countries have reason to be proud of theirs.’
25
I agree with both statements to the same degree
15
Statement B – ‘It’s natural to be proud of one’s own country, but if we are honest we should recognise that no country is fundamentally superior to any other. People in much of the world have just as much reason to be proud of their country as we have to be proud of ours.’
52
Neither / Don’t know
8
Can Britain go it alone?
Statement A – ‘In today’s world, with global trade and global companies, there are severe limits to what Britain can achieve on its own. We must work closely with other countries and with global institutions such as the United Nations, the Commonwealth and the World Trade Organisation if we are to maximise our influence and prosperity’
40
I agree with both statements to the same degree
13
Statement B – ‘The case for global rules and institutions is often overstated, and their so-called benefits an illusion. Britain is perfectly able to decide for itself how best to run its affairs and relate to other countries. Britain should seek to control its destiny without worrying about the rest of the world.’
35
Neither / Don’t know
12
For or against overseas aid?
Statement A – ‘It is in Britain’s interests to help the world’s poorer countries to become better off. This would be good for British exports and British jobs – and reduce the danger of conflict and terrorism. For these reasons there is a strong practical as well as moral argument for maintaining our spending on international development.’
32
I agree with both statements to the same degree
11
Statement B – ‘Money spent on international aid is largely wasted. It supports corrupt regimes and ends up doing little or nothing to support development or reduce conflict or terrorism. There is neither a moral nor a practical case for such spending. Britain should look after itself, and leave poorer countries to sort themselves out.’
48
Neither / Don’t know
9
A special relationship with Europe?
Statement A – ‘Whether we like it or not, Britain must work especially closely with the rest of Europe if it is to prosper in the 21st century. That does not necessarily mean accepting the European Union as it is. Nor does it mean that Britain must work for a ‘United States of Europe’. It does mean that, inside or outside the EU, we must recognise that we are a European nation.’
38
I agree with both statements to the same degree
14
Statement B – ‘As an island with a long history of connections with the rest of the world, a major role in the Commonwealth and a ‘special relationship’ with the USA, Britain has no need to give extra weight to its links with the rest of Europe. Britain is most likely to prosper if it treats the rest of Europe as no more important to us than any other part of the world.’
35
Neither / Don’t know
13
Pro-EU v anti-EU
Statement A – ‘For all its faults, the European Union is a pioneering example of the way different countries can work together for mutual benefit. Over the past half century, the EU has helped Europe to become more peaceful, democratic and prosperous than at any time in the continent’s history.’
25
I agree with both statements to the same degree
8
Statement B – ‘The EU has failed. It is expensive, inefficient and overbearing. It stops the governments of member states from doing the things they need to do improve the lives of their citizens. The EU has had nothing to do with Europe being more peaceful, democratic and prosperous than it used to be.’
52
Neither / Don’t know
14
Source; YouGov; sample 1,743; Fieldwork: August 20-21, 2012
Different people will find significance in different findings: the widespread pessimism about the prospects for the next generation, for example, or the popularity of British traditions, or the divided views about whether Britain should work especially closely with the rest of Europe; or – most relevant to this analysis – the two-to-one majority regarding the EU as fundamentally a failure rather than a success.
However, the main reason for asking these questions together is to explore the connections among these attitudes. How far, if at all, do our attitudes to the EU flow from specific concerns about the way Brussels works, and how far from views about the state of Britain itself and/or our optimism or pessimism towards the future and/or our wider sense of whether Britain should engage with the rest of the world or try to keep it at bay?
Two statistical techniques help us to answer these questions. One is bivariate correlation analysis, the other cluster analysis. Let us consider these in turn.
With correlation analysis we count how frequently answers to different questions coincide. Suppose we conducted poll on television and asked whether people like or dislike (a) Doctor Who and (b) the X factor. If everyone who liked one programme liked the other, then correlation analysis would yield a coefficient of plus one. If, on the other hand, all Dr Who viewers hated the X Factor, and vice versa, then we would have a coefficient of minus one. If there were no link between the two views, then the regression coefficient would be zero.
Now let’s apply this to the data in our survey. The strongest correlations with attitudes to the EU concern Britain’s general place in the world. Supporters of overseas aid tend to be pro-EU; opponents of overseas aid are overwhelmingly anti-EU. The correlation coefficient between the two is 0.5 – which statisticians consider a high figure. It’s a similar story, with almost exactly the same coefficient, when we compare attitudes to the EU with those to Britain’s place in the world generally. The more strongly people agree with the view that Britain must work closely with global organisations such as the United Nations, the more likely they are to be pro-EU.
There is also a clear, though lesser, correlation between how we view the EU and whether we think Britain has grown better or worse in the past 30-40 years. By three-to-one, pro-EU respondents think Britain has improved, while by five-to-three, those who regard the EU as a failure think Britain has got worse. The correlation is 0.3. A similar figure applies when we compare expectations for the future, and whether or not our children’s generation will be better off than ours: Those who are pro-EU divide evenly between optimists and pessimists, while those who are anti-EU are overwhelmingly pessimistic.
This correlation analysis takes us some way down the track of understanding the different forces at work on public attitudes to Europe. But we need to delve further, for these forces are not wholly independent of each other. For example, supporters of overseas aid are more likely than opponents to be optimists. One way to analyse these factors together is to do cluster analysis. The computer examines the pattern of responses, and creates clusters of broadly like-minded respondents. When we do this, we find that most Britons belong to one of three groups:
Worried nationalists (WNs): 42%. They tend to have a traditional view of Britain, are pessimistic about the future and, were Britain a castle surrounded by a moat, would want the drawbridge up most of the time, in order to keep the rest of the world at bay. They tend to dislike overseas aid and think Britain should not bother too much with the global bodies such as the United Nations. The vast majority of them think the EU has been a failure.
WNs divide evenly between Labour and Conservatives. 15% of them support UKIP (twice the national average) and just 5% are Liberal Democrats (half the national average). They are slightly more likely than the general population to be women and to read the Sun or the Mail, and less likely to have a university degree.
Pragmatic nationalists (PNs): 23%. Like the WNs, PNs tend to have a traditional view of Britain, but tend to be less pessimistic about the way Britain is heading. They are divided about the merits of overseas aid, but tend to think Britain does need to co-operate with global institutions. Were Britain a castle, they would lower the drawbridge more often than the WNs, to allow more contact with the outside world. They are divided on whether the EU has been successful, but tend not to have strong feelings either way.
PNs also divide evenly between Labour and Conservative. The share of Liberal Democrats is in line with the national average; but only 3% would vote UKIP. Otherwise, their demographic profile is similar to that of Britain as a whole.
Progressive internationalists (PIs): 25%. Here, “progressive” is used not so much as a left-of-centre label, but in the sense of holding a view that history tends towards greater prosperity and enlightenment. Their view of Britain tends to be rooted in values more than tradition; they generally think Britain is a better place today than was a generation ago but are less certain about the future. Overwhelmingly, PIs think Britain must play a full role in global institutions, most support our international aid programme and, by three-to-one, they think the EU is a success story. They are happy for the drawbridge linking Britain to the rest of the world to stay down.
Two-thirds of PIs would vote Labour (52%) or Lib Dem (14%); just 23% would vote Conservative. They are more likely than the national average to be men, to have university degrees and to read the ‘broadsheet’ newspapers.
It should be stressed that these groups are not completely homogeneous; and there are another 10% of the electorate that don’t fit any of them (though this last group tends to have no clear views of these issues, and few of them are likely to vote in any election or referendum). Even within each group, there are some people who fit most but by no means all of the descriptions given. For example, there are internationally-minded optimists who reject the traditional view of British life and approve of overseas aid, but still dislike the EU. However, there aren’t very many of them.
The broader lesson is that those who seek to persuade Britons either to love or to hate Brussels by stressing the precise wording of EU treaties, or the details of the Common Agricultural Policy, or the merits of the Working Time Directive, are wasting their time. Few people think about the EU in these terms; and the few who do are probably committed
enthusiasts for, or utterly hostile to, the whole project; so their votes are locked up. For most people, attitudes to the EU are shaped by two broad things: their view of Britain itself, and how far they are at ease with the direction in which our society is heading. As with so much else in politics, fear is a big driver of public attitudes. At the moment, the fear factor is working hard for the EU’s opponents.
This analysis suggests two big implications.
First, Worried Nationalists comprise by far the biggest single group. In a referendum on whether to leave the EU, Worried Nationalists give the anti-EU lobby a head start. Although they could be outvoted if virtually all the Pragmatic Nationalists lined up against them with the Progressive Internationalists, I find it hard in practice to see how the British would vote to stay in the EU unless a fair number of nationalists could be lured from the “worried” to the “pragmatic” column.
Although we don’t have this kind of data for 1975, there can be little doubt that this is a big part of what happened 37 years ago. Many voters who started out both disliking the Common Market and fearful of Britain’s future, ended up fearing that Britain would be worse off out in the cold. They decided on pragmatic grounds to swallow their dislike of “Europe” and vote to stay in. If an in-out referendum is held in the next few years, the pro-EU lobby will need to achieve the same shift and change the way the fear factor works.
Secondly, if the WN column can be reduced to, say, 35% or less in a referendum campaign, then the PNs will become the swing group. Their votes will decide whether Britain leaves the EU or stays in. As in 1975, the fear factor will loom large. But this is part of a wider point. By its nature, pragmatism is concerned more with practical and often short-term outcomes, rather than big visions and long-term dreams. PNs are unlikely to be swayed either by those who summon the spirits of Shakespeare, Agincourt and Elizabeth I – or by those who wax lyrical about peace in Europe and the continent’s shared cultural heritage. “Rule Britannia” and “Ode to Joy” might stir the partisans, but they will leave the pragmatists cold. To them, the big picture will matter far more: which is more likely to boost jobs, prosperity and our children’s future: maintaining our partnership with our European neighbours or arranging a divorce?
In short, campaigning by both sides is likely to be scrappy and negative. It may be the least bad way to decide Britain’s relations with the rest of Europe, but only a wild optimist could think it a glorious way.
Peter Kellner is a journalist, political commentator, and President of YouGov.

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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.

They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then  still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.

Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!

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The Beatles ‘Love Me Do’ released 50 years ago today!

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The Beatles ‘Love Me Do’ released 50 years ago today!

As was the launch of the first ‘James Bond‘ film with the iconic British flag waving!

Today in 2012 is the inaugural Conference of:
‘We Want A Referendum’ campaign at Westminster Hall!

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Hi,today – Friday 05-Sept-1962 was the day on which the original Beatles line up, before Ringo Starr joined the group, released their first single.

It is the 50th anniversary of the release of Love Me Do:

Today is also the anniversary of the iconic British series of James Bond films with the release of Sean Connery as James Bond in the film ‘Dr. NO
It is also the actual day today of the inagural conference of the new British political party ‘We Demand A Referendum‘ I shall campaign and support the campaign to ‘Let The People Decide‘  based on the FACTS provided by a Royal Commission with no additional commitment to The EU and no further payments until AFTER The IN / OUT Referendum is held with equal funding and equal media coverage for both sides and absolutely NO interference from corrupt external sources such as The EU and its puppets.I shall campaign and support a NO vote launched today since it is the 50th. anniversary of Doctor NO let us hope when we Leave-The-EU it will prove as great a success as James Bond!

Good luck to Nikki Sinclaire and her team in their campaign for a referendum – just as with The Beatles 50 years ago – who would have expected such a huge success – I did when I bought my copy of the 45rpm single Love Me Do with ‘PS I Love You’ on the flip side, on the day it was released in Germany where I lived at the time or back at school in Bristol, which I can’t remember as I was 16 and much has happened since!

I do well remember that at the time I was vehemently opposed to Britain ever joining the then EEC (EUropaische Wirtschaft Gemeinschaft!)

Today I’m looking forward to the start of something big that 50 years on will be seen as the great turning point in British history when the people of Britain started to stand on their own feet once more with the determination to excerciswe their fundamental human right of ‘Self Determination‘ sickened by the betrayal of their Country, their ancestors, their descendants and themselves by their low caliber self serving, self enriching politicial elite and their corrupt Civil Servants and State Broadcasters.

The new Movement has been launched as a political party not to gain seats but to comply with Electoral Commission law and gain influence and today with almost 1/4 Million signatures and a House of Commons debate already achieved having only launched the movement formally just a couple of weeks ago to get anything over 100 to attend their inagural conference at Westminster Hall will be a great step forward today.

 

Already Nikki Sinclaire has been on radio today promoting her team and their aims.

I hope all goes well for them and their genuine supporters – there will of course be many who after years of being paid £Millions to achieve this great step will be embarrassed at their total failure to deliver who will snipe and detract from the achievement and seek every way they can to denigrate it just as there will be many a ‘band wagon’ jumper trying to pretend it is their achievement just as UKIP leadership did as they paraded up and down outside Parliament at Westminster whilst the debate Team Sinclaire had achieved went on inside!

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UKIP: Gary Cartwright on Nigel Farage

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/10/2012

UKIP: Gary Cartwright on Nigel Farage

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UKIP: Gary Cartwright on Nigel Farage who is UKIP!

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UKIP: Gary Cartwright on Nigel Farage

From Gary Cartwright’s blog:

I was highly amused to see a certain party leader looking like a scared rabbit caught in car headlights, desperately explaining to a Tory chum his thoughts on a referendum in Brussels a couple of weeks ago.

I wonder what has suddenly made him so concerned about a referendum now?

Better Late Than Never!
Demanding of David Cameron a promise of a referendum “written in blood” is all jolly stirring stuff, but when the person in question didn’t actually sign the petition calling for a referendum until after it had actually been presented to 10 Downing Street, those words sound somewhat hollow. But words are cheap, and easy to come by.
Unlike collecting 220,000 signatures, forcing a debate in the Commons, and provoking a back-bench revolt, all of which required great effort and some financial cost, words actually count for little unless they are backed up with deeds. UKIP’s words rarely seem to be backed up with deeds. The party has descended into a world of yaa-boo politics: name calling and jeering from the sidelines. The party is simply not interesting anymore.

It amused me, although it did not surprise me, when after the first 100,000 signatures were handed in and we learned there was to be a debate on a referendum on our continued membership of the EU, no less than 3 other groups tried to take the credit for it. I remember well UKIP’s feeble and half-hearted attempt at raising a petition. It appers to have acheived nothing – apart that is from an expenditure of a substantial 6 figure sum. I have often wondered where that money went…

As we approach our inaugural conference on Friday 5th, at Westminster Central Hall, I expect the usual libels and slanders that I have come to expect from the UKIP press office to start oozing to the surface. If you can’t do anything, attack those who can, seems to be the strategy. Probably the only strategy UKIP has, I am afraid.

When I think of the UKIP press office, for some reason the words of Lewis Carroll: “T’was brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe…” come into my mind.

To read the original: LINK
To which I have responded:

Hi,

do you not feel Gary is being a little harsh on Farage’s party, when after all it has only cost the tax payers around £50,000,000 over the years for UKIP to achieve the sum total of:

– come to think of it, beyond defame and malign a lot of people, wind up with MEPs in prison, lie to the Courts and to the police what have they achieved of value?

Then of course there was the way in which they seem to have slept their way into the choice of all too many of their staff, lied on a consistent basis, both to Regional Committees, electorate and members about their various thefts and sordid corruption.

Might it be: What seems to have been over egging the rigging of a vote, to do away with member’s democratic input and turn the party into a one man band dictatorship, (as made abundantly clear in Marta Andreassen’s full interview given to Michael Crick – which one must assume will be presented in suitable form for an election!) with appointed pond life and low lifes doing as Farage orders as he holds the purse strings, all staff appointments, positions in selection lists, and of course it seems he hold the rigging rights for votes and funding for bribes!

Might their achievement be to have pulled together a leadership clique that hold onto office only by bribery, bullying, dishonesty and intimidation?

Could it be the facility of stealing money to use as bribes just as Tom Wise did though he was rightly sent to prison for his criminality!

One wonders why Derek Clark was not also as he was ordered to repay almost exactly the same sum which he had misappropriated and Nigel Farage, Graham Booth, and Jeffrey Titford were also ordered to repay money to the public purse.

I note you also do not know what happened to the money taken from the public purse by Farage, Lott, Croucher etc. for a petition which was never presented and were you not a staffer at the time! Seems UKIP leadership are consistent on one count – corruption.

Farage has time and again gone on public media and outright lied just as Malcolm Pearson lied when leader to deselect Nikki Sinclaire becauser as an MEP she was showing up the other UKIP MEPs with the transparency of her accounts and her dedication, ethicality and workload (a sure way to make enemies in UKIP!) currently Stuart Agnew and David Bannerman are, I am reliably informed – still under investigation by OLAF for their abuse of trust in elected office and misuse of public money (as with Tom Wise who went to prison for his crimes).

Interestingly UKIP make much of trying to befoul Sinclaire’s name yet OLAF have absolutely no interest in investigating her, despite what seem to be ‘set up fantasies’ spun to West Midlands Police by John Ison, seemingly for his preferment in political rivalry as promised by UKIP – and since only one man in UKIP makes the decisions clearly he must have authorised the attempted set up!

Sadly Gary – your posting is accurate and it is clear there isn’t a single solitary achievement of note for the £50,000,000 or so we, as tax payers, have permitted UKIP to steal, purloin, squander and abuse.

Yet it is possible to achieve as an MEP, as Nikki Sinclaire has most ably shown, even using her own money for the cause where the rest of UKIP leadership seem to think paying money for their own election is some sort of magnanimous gesture – beyond that what money has ANY UKIP MEP ever donated to the good of the party?

So sad when they had such potential and hardly surprising they try to jump on every passing band wagon!

In reality UKIP leadership are beneath contempt – just a gaggle of racist, abusive self seekers of little or no merit!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.
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Isn’t it astonishing that some of the most consistently corrupt politicians slide through every situation, be it drunkeness, consorting with prostitutes, self enrichment, sexual abuse, abuse of power need I go on? We all have watched in horrified disgust as ‘teflon coated politicians’ oleaginously slide through every challenge.
Tony Blair clocked up almosty every aspect of such horror and added war crimes and crimes against humanity unchallenged, as Clinton in his sexual inadequacy needed reassurance at every opportunity even so far as rape – it is not just Jimmy Saville and the entertainment business that expresses its inadequacies and inferiority by exploiting sex with the vulnerable.
Then again let us face it – since political decision making of any meaning is an undemocratic process of imposition by unelected beauraucrats on a top down basis with no regard to the wishes of the people most politicians are relegated to being little more than entertainers – perhaps this inadequacy explains the way in which so called leaders are able to act in a criminal manner or at best amorally!

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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.

They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then  still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS: ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.

Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!

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‘WE DEMAND A REFERENDUM’ – Inaugural Conference

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‘WE DEMAND A REFERENDUM’ – Inaugural Conference!
THIS FRIDAY!

at: The Westminster Hall!

Info: from CLICK HERE & ALSO HERE

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We Demand A Referendum is pleased to announce its inaugural conference at Central Hall Westminster.

 
(Central Hall, Westminster, Storey’s Gate, London, SW1H 9NH)
 
 
 
The conference will be held on Friday 5th October from 10.30am – 3.30pm
 
Speakers on the day will include the following –
 
Nikki Sinclaire MEP
 
 
Katie Hopkins
 
 
 
George Hargreaves
 
 
Roger Knapman
 
 
 
+ A Guest Speaker
 
Places for this event are limited and we urge anybody who wishes to attend to book by calling the office on
 
0121 359 5933
 
For further information on this event please do not hestitate to contact the team on the above number, or email on info@letthepeopledecide.eu
 
 
Further meetings across the country will be held and announced in due course.

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Let us hope that they have booked the right sized rooms (a very difficult guess!) as they vary in size between over 2,000 and around 30 as I recall – personally I believe anything over 100 attending will be a success, as the organisation has been at relatively short notice and clearly the main parties are frightened of seeing their control to rig a referendum being challenged and are likely to try to sabotage the effort!

Even little UKIP who have shown that they are resoundingly rejected in domestic politics and only seem to have a following in EU protest antics, have been pulling out all the stops to try to sabotage the initiative!

There may be more in attendance than I expect, even The EU can be expected tobe sending spies and delegates to try to undermine this initiative!

Just think howmany €Millions,  of our money as tax payers, and howmany 1,000s of bribes were handed out by EU staffers and those living on EU bribes to try to get votes that The EU wanted in Ireland – against the wishes of the people of Ireland who were resoundingly betrayed by their own self seeking politicians!

Consider how regularly the British people have been lied to by their own politicians – Cameron, Heath, Rippon, Clegg, Farage, Clark and all in between, just to keep their snouts in the troughs on the EU Gravy Train.

Good luck to Team Sinclaire and I look forward to hearing all about the speakers and hope it will be videoed for those of us who can’t get there.

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Paul Nuttall exposes UKIP’s true values!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 30/09/2012

Paul Nuttall exposes UKIP’s true values!
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Paul Nuttall exposes UKIP’s true values on The Politics Show!

We note Katie Hopkins has her own views as well as presenting the aims of the ‘We Demand A Referendum’ campaign and already the scum that support UKIP are posting web sites to defame and denigrate her, Nikki Sinclaire & Gary Cartwright from a position of obscene anonymity!

The fear is palpable as is the betrayal of the electorate for personal gain!

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Hi,

though I agree with the comment made by Team Junius, on their blog CLICK HERE, I do believe that they have failed to point out that the Farage Party, which represents the so called leadership clique and its claque of scuzzy self seekers, and NOT UKIP which is the well meaning, if stunningly naiive and ill informed 10,000 or so ordinary members who lend their names to the corruption, largely in innocence and a spirit of hope over experience.

Sadly the party is driven on as an unprofessional clique of self serving self interested and mutually self supporting and self enriching and unethical rascals.

It is clear they have no clear aims beyond the mantras that hide their own gain, be it sexual, financial or perceived status as they behave like a rather unpleasant gaggle of low lifes on a reality game show – endlessly attacking and abusing anyone who dares to hold an opinion that may counter or question theirs. None are so berated and abused as those who support the aims of UKIP but have seen through the charlatans who control it.

One need only see the fool Nuttall’s contortions to attack Katie Hopkins and the We Demand A Referendum campaign that has actually achieved something.

Nuttall even went so far as to make an issue of accusing them of vote splitting, no doubt in terror at the prospect of losing his over paid position and having to get a job, as he made it clear he considered MEPs to be ineffective and useless.

It is clear that the We Demand A Referendum campaign does not seek office and has no intention of being a political party and upsetting the carefully constructed LibLabEUkipCon of the two main parties and their acolytes, ensuring they remain on their respective gravy trains; merely working to ensure a referendum on their terms and show that the LibLabEUkipCon want no such fair and informed vote of the people (to appreciate this just read the Faragistas pamphlet on Referendum!).

In fact it was clear that what Team Junius had failed to point out was that The Faraginies have no vision, no strategy, no tactics, no exit and survival strategy and no future and are utterly dependent on pointing out the perceived failings of others, actual or imaginary, as they have not a single solitary achievement to their names and had Jimmy Goldsmith and The Referendum Party lived UKIP would already have faded into oblivion as just anothr gaggle of self seekers.

Farage’s Party is so bereft of aims and achievements and so without professionalism, as shown by the fact that after 20 years they have totally failed to build a team, a structure, MPs or even any sound base of elected councillors of any worth, or as Nuttall makes clear provide anyone of any note other than Farage!

Failed and rejected Tories, be they geriatric, crimional or merely fools, hardly represent success!

To try to promote poor old Lord whatever at the conference as a great achievement when he left the Tories around a decade ago, is virtually unknown to the peoples of Britain and retired long ago, shows the bankruptcy of the Farage Party and the insult to the intelligence of the electorate of fielding the proven corrupt dismissed ex Tory Niel Hamilton is no more than an embarrassment.

As one UKIP insider (with experience as a staffer in the claque) noted recently a good way to achieve prefferment in the Farage Party is to prostitute oneself to promotion!

Swanning around in The EU liberally greasing the wheels is no substitute for achievement and as far as I know was not what was meant by ‘climbing the greasy pole’!

That failed elderly Tories may provide a sad backdrop to the boudoir, the antics of the younger members and their obsession with their ‘members’ merely shows the party for the vile little gaggle of amoral, immoral, racist, abusive, anti homosexual, anti Jewish low lifes they indesputably are.

Check out the track record of the other scum in the EFD and then wonder at how the Farage clique and its claque fit so well in that environment of squalid hate and self enrichment!

My congratulations to We Demand A Referendum and the clarity of their message, as they campaign for an informed debate, as a result of a Royal Commission which shows on an honest and cross party basis the cost benefits of membership of The EU, and a clear set of data on which to devise a Safe, sound and well planned Exit & Survival Strategy (No doubt under Article 50 of the EU constitution).

Then and only then can the peoples of these United Kingdoms vote in a straightforward IN / OUT manner.

To study the Tory Fresh Start one Starts Afresh to reaise it is a ‘device’ with two aims:
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To ensure that at an apposite moment Campbell and his team can announce they WILL hold a referendum on IN / OUT AFTER the General Election thus leaving UKIP (unsurprisingly) with no role, as ever, in domestic politics.
02. The other side of their coin is to work, through George EUstace and other sham EUroPlastics to provide one of the most corrupt and rigged votes in British history, on a par with the utterly dishonest Welsh Devolution vote which Labour LOST had they not undeniably rigged it!

The aim is an IN / OUT vote, BUT with huge funding from The EU, massive intervention from areas of big business who are so well protected by the EU red tape from any emergent business or level playing field for competition (ensuring that ALL the gravy on the gravy train is divied up amongst the usual suspects).

The IN vote will hold a codicil along the lines of:
‘Knowing that The Government will work hard to negotiate the very best deal they can with such powers as they can have repatriated do you wish to styay in the single market protected in the global economy when the New EU Constitution is agreed in 2016’

The codicil to the OUT vote will be along the lines of:
‘Do you wish to be OUT of the EU and denied the opportunity to influence the decision making of the largest market group in the world, and the protection it offers – exposed to the risks of being alone in a global market in a dangerous world?’

Yes that is the level of dishonesty to which the LibLabEUkipCon and their EU chums will sink to, you have seen the first round in cartoon form from Nuttall & Toby Young aided by The State broadcasters in the video above!

Do not forget Nigel Farage is a leader of The Pan EU EFD Group in the EU, a group that welcomes and advocates EU membership, merely seeking reform of certain details!

Nuttall and his chums come across as little more than crass, dishonest, self serving petty crooks and only Nikki Sinclaire has EVER spoken out as an elected UKIP MEP, against their corruption and acted on her principles and just look at the vile way they chose to attack and vilify her, even stooping to lies and attempted setups.

Good luck with the campaign Demanding A Royal Commission, and a fair and equitable debate, thereafter to decide a simple IN / OUT Referendum with equal funding, no hidden codicils, equal media coverage and absolutely no involvement of non UK citizens or their EU money.

Such a pity none of Jimmy Goldsmith’s family or children were big enough to wear his shoes. However let us not forget Jimmy Goldsmith was supping with the Devil as an MEP, and believed in EU membership!

Unlike Churchill who clearly stated that ‘ If the choice was between membership of EUrope and the open sea Britain was best served by taking to the open sea’!

I shall continue to campaign to leave the EU and will continue to do all I can to inform of the corruption of rascals like UKIP leadership clique and its claque.

Just as I will happily expose ANYONE who seeks to abuse the We Demand A Referendum Campaign for their own personal gain. Similarly I will seek to do my best to defend the principles and values I have held all my life and will support these who act honourably in the interest of OUR Country and its peoples of whatever creed, superstition or colour as held within the law.

I trust that honest men and women who actually support these United Kingdoms will do all they can to campaign for a Royal Commission, ensuring a clear answer to the cost benefit issue of EU membership and the drawing up of a simple plausible ‘Exit & Survival Strategy’ to then ensure a free, fair and informed equitable referendum of a simple IN /OUT.

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UKIP Copyright Infringement by Nigel Farage etc.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/09/2012

UKIP Copyright Infringement by Nigel Farage etc.

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Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

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The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

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UKIP Copyright Infringement by Nigel Farage etc.

This article  I believe to be true though much of the opinion posted by Martin Cole I KNOW to be wildly speculative, at best, and often completely wrong!

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Hi,
since speculation or should I say guesses and rumours are being posted as if factual on Anthony Butcher’s UKIP controlled blog, regarding the incident where Nigel Farage was found guilty of copyright infringement which seemed at the time to be largely driven by the odious and corrupt sewer rat Nigel employed, to try to build ‘Black Files’ on his staff, colleagues and opponents, Mark Croucher.
I note that Barbara Booker has drawn attention to the ‘facts’ as present6ed by Martin Cole, which were as follows:
Thursday, May 01, 2003Video Tape Copyright Infringement by Nigel Farage
On 4 September 2000 local trading standards officers raided UKIP’s South East branch offices in Redhill, seizing four illegal video copies of a BBC TV documentary “The Enemy Within” about Nigel Farage, UKIP MEP for the South East Region, which were in breach of copyright. Britain in Europe AccountMosaic Productions reprint of an article by Peter Shore in the Daily Telegraph
1st June 2000, sets the background as to why Nigel Farage might have felt dismayed at the non-appearance of the BBC episode of ‘Desperately Seeking Eutopia’ with his contribution. Peter Shore Article

Mosaic Films followed this report a few days later with another, this time concluded as follows:-

Article by Christopher Booker
The Sunday Telegraph, June 4 2000

All content © Mosaic Films

An early indication that Mosaic Films took their copyright property rights very seriously!

Christopher Booker Article

On the 16th August 2000 the following item appeared in the London Evening Standard:-

“Some bad news for Nigel Farage, Euro MP for the UK Independence Party, who is the subject of a forthcoming BBC documentary due for broadcasting next month on the sparsely viewed BBC Knowledge channel.
The Beeb is furious to discover a video of the programme given to Farage by the makers is being copied and sold through the Party’s “Sovereignty” newsletter, with UKIP doing a roaring trade at five pounds a piece. The programme which includes footage of Farage’s assistant Dr Richard North describing our Spanish neighbours as: “Rag-arsed dagos,” is described by UKIP as: “A perfect tool for converting the sceptical, and perfect for showing at branch meetings.”
Not for long. The Beeb is already flexing its legal muscles. “This is a breach of copyright which won’t be tolerated,” a spokesman tells me.”

Jeffrey Titford had written a long letter of many complaints to the BBC on the 7th August 2000, ie a few days before this item appeared in the Standard, among which was the question as to why invitations to Farage to appear on Question Time had been withdrawn. The breach of copyright could, perhaps have been a contributory factor!

Jeffrey Titford’s Complaint to the BBC

What was the background to Farage’s actions, did he innocently flirt with a breach of copyright, or did he recklessly risk all to have his programme reach a wider organisation? Here the internet search engines reveal little, so we have been forced to make inquiries elsewhere.

Curiously at a UKIP NEC meeting on the 24th May 2000, a motion was put forward by Nigel Farage that any NEC member who fell foul of the law should have their legal expenses paid by the party. One present recalls that failing to gather majority support the proposer then lost his temper and stormed from the meeting.

Shortly after this the then Party Secretary learned that Nigel Farage planned to copy and sell a video tape and following enquiries learned the intent was to sell the box including the free tape inside, presumably a poor attempt to circumvent the law.

On 31st July 2000, Adam Alexander of Mosaic Films had faxed Nigel Farage confirming his company had worldwide rights to Eutopia – The Enemy Within.

On 9th August 2000 this same gentleman, Joint Managing Director of Mosaic, faxed Farage again advising:-

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It has been brought to my attention that the UKIP, through a reference in Sovereignty magazine, is offering for sale copies of the film we made about you for the BBC series ‘Eutopia -The Enemy Within‘.

At no time has Mosaic given you the right to sell this programme. With reference to my fax to you of 31st July 2000, Mosaic holds the distribution rights and any exploitation of the material through video sales can only be through and with the express agreement of Mosaic Films.

Any attempts by you to make copies of and or sell the programme will be a breach of copyright, and to this end I must insist you refrain from making any sales until such time as a sales agreement has been made between us. Please advise me of any sales you may have already made.

I can confirm that under the terms of the agreement Mosaic has with the BBC the video cannot be sold until after the first transmission by the BBC, which is scheduled for sometime soon after 15th September 2000.
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This fax was copied to two people within the BBC and another Mosaic employee.

It could hardly have been clearer.

A letter of apology was sent to Mosaic Films signed on behalf of Nigel Farage by Stan Oram and believed to have been sent on 15th August 2000.

On 24th August, following an advert for the video appearing in the Independence (UKIP‘s Members Newsletter), the party secretary wrote to all NEC members advising the activity was illegal and that he would not work to defend the action which was bringing the Party into disrepute and that additionally he would oppose the use of party funds being used to meet costs that might be incurred.

Extraordinarily on 24th August the party leader Jeffrey Titford wrote to the party secretary regarding his warning stating: “ The facts are that Nigel has permission to reproduce the video, this was given by Mosaic who made the programme. I have seen this letter.”

On the same day Farage sent an angry riposte to all NEC members which he had the foresight to banner headline “NOT FOR CIRCULATION” for it is difficult to reconcile its contents with the facts as they now appear.

On 25th August, Adam Alexander of Mosaic Films was again faxing Farage, this time with a clear warning that the Surrey Trading Standards Office were on the case and demanding that the pirated videos be sent to Gloucestershire to arrive by 30th August 2000.

On 30th August the other joint managing director of Mosaic films wrote to the UKIP Party Secretary with details of the correspondence between Farage and his colleague and insisted that no pirated copies be sold.

On 4th September 2000 the party received a letter from the Surrey County Council Trading Standards office confirming that on 24th August they had purchased a pirated video and that on 1st September they had visited the Redhill Southeast branch office and seized further copies and related documentation.

On 4th September 2000 a statement was put out by the party leader Jeffrey Titford, which in light of the now revealed facts, seems so extraordinary that it can only be quoted in full:-

UKIP & The Video ‘The Enemy Within’- A statement by Jeffrey Titford MEP, Leader, UK Independence Party

The BBC has spent a great deal of licence payers’ money producing a film series about the European Union. For reasons about which we can only speculate, the BBC has shown no inclination to screen on its terrestrial channels an episode that featured the UK Independence Party, despite the fact that UKIP MEPs went to great lengths to co-operate in the film’s production.

As a result, Nigel Farage MEP took a personal initiative to obtain copies of the film with a view to selling it to UKIP members in order to raise badly needed funds for the South East region. It subsequently transpired that distribution of the film to Party members would not be possible until it has been screened on a BBC subscription channel.

More recently, a Trading Standards Officer resorted to what amounted to deception in order to obtain a copy of the video and so prove that a technical offence has been committed. As a result, the videos have been returned to their source, where they will remain pending clarification.
Nigel accepts that he acted somewhat precipitously – though with the best intention of making the film available to a wider audience. I am also satisfied that no personal gain was either intended or realised. Any further enquiries or approaches on the matter, from whatever party involved, will be referred to the UKIP South East regional office.

This unfortunate matter would never have come about if the BBC properly fulfilled its Charter obligations in regard to balanced reporting. Also, I wholly deprecate the duplicitous tactics of Trading Standards at a time when their officers are terrorising small traders with an unlawful interpretation of Weights and Measures legislation, and turning a blind eye to the sale of thousands of illegal car number plates emblazoned with the infamous EU ring of stars.

Signed Jeffrey Titford London 4 September 2000

On 8th September 2000 Mosaic Films confirmed to the UKIP Party Secretary that at no time had they given Nigel Farage either verbal or written permission to sell the tapes. That same day the Party Secretary tendered his resignation, hardly surprising in view of the events detailed above, but even less so when put against the fact that throughout this period he had also been fending off a possible prosecution by the Metropolitan Police in connection with the removal of the UKIP database, in which strangely enough Nigel Farage’s name had also been involved.

We are conscious that this parade of facts on an internet site could rob those involved of the right to reply. WE WILL POST ANY REPLIES OR REFUTATIONS ANYONE MENTIONED IN THE ABOVE POST MIGHT CARE TO MAKE. Such should be sent to ukipuncovered@hotmail.com The e-mail link that was available on this site will be restored for such purposes as soon as possible. Other comments or advice are similarly always welcomed.

posted by Martin |12:33 AM

To view Martin Cole’s original posting, in context CLICK HEREIt is unfortunate that Martin Cole undermined his own credibility by publishing some most amusing fantasies and guessed at speculation about me that were such patently obviously speculative rubbish that it brought into question much else that he ‘claimed’ to be fact.Sadly Martin Cole seemed unable to differentiate between fact and fiction and failed to show what he could substantiate and that which he was inventing or that which was pure fantasy which he republished for others as with much of the vituperative drivel published, at the time, by Christina Speight who seemed to see herself as the Queen of the EUroSceptic movement for a brief period.I hope this background to the UKIP / Farage copyright saga is of help.I was given a copy of the video at the time and watched it – It was quite good and along the usual lines of show off showman for which Farage has become quite well known as an entertainer. Even in 1999 it was showing UKIP’s lack of gravitas and its knock about style of insults and humour, which passes for political ability in UKIP, which seems almost totally dependent on stunts, insults, bullying and abuse for its much vaunted but never visible (in UK Ballot Boxes!) great progress.

UKIP under its present unprofessional band wagon jumping and a dependency on ‘churning’ of members to attract new more naiive and less well informed members to the cult to replace those who have seen through the sham are what seems to keep them going at a cost to the tax payer running to 10s of £Millions over the years.

UKIP’s latest band wagon is IN / OUT referendum where from their pamphlet on the issue they make it abundantly clear they plan to loose and have failed to grasp the first principles of such a referendum. No doubt they will use this as a mechanism to ‘churn’ more members and to pocket the cash generated as they seemingly did with the £1/4 Million plus of public money that was spiritted away and never accounted by Nigel Farage, David Lott & Mark Croucher in the only petition of note they have claimed to run to date.

The petition never materialised but the money did vanish in much the same way as the Ashford campaign where less than 15% of the money raised ever reached UKIP, we were told by its own chairman. An apparent fraud that was seemingly covered up by Douglas Denny, John Moran, Andrew Smith, Nigel Farage and other scoundrels and nere do wells at the time.

We are also reminded by Barbara Booker that:

‘EUtopia’ was a series of twenty documentaries, eight of which went out on BBC2 during Summer 2000, with the remaining twelve switched to BBC Digital. I had forgotten that ‘The Enemy Within’, the programme featuring Nigel Farage, was broadcast on 7 September 2000 on BBC Knowledge.

I’m not sure everyone would agree that it was favourable to UKIP. It included Richard North calling the Spanish, “rag-arsed dagos”, and Nigel Farage swearing.

And that Jeffrey Titford lied when he made the statement:
The facts are that Nigel has permission to reproduce the video, this was given by Mosaic who made the programme. I have seen this letter”.He couldn’t have. The true facts were that Mosaic had expressly forbidden Farage to copy and or sell the programme, and insisted he refrain from doing so.

It is quite clear that on a consistent basis UKIP’s leadership and their clique and also their self serving claque, including those too ashamed to put their names to their dishonesties and defamatory claims are consitent strangers to the truth – all too willing to lie, cheat and steal as their track record shows.There can really be no argument that we are fortunate that UKIP, as it is, and has been, has never had any relevance in British domestic politics as power would clearly be abused and befouled by those in control of UKIP.

Regards,

Greg_L-W..

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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.

They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then  still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
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PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS: ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.

Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!

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