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UKIP’s Lack of an Exit & Survival Strategy Exposed

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 Global governance: the simplified version

 Sunday 15 December 2013

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“Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made”, said Bismark. And he was right, but only after a fashion. It is now no longer possible to observe our laws being made and the process has got to the stage where it is beyond human comprehension. Take, for instance, the classification, packaging and labelling of dangerous substances.

Although these issues are currently controlled by EU law, specifically Regulation (EC) No 1272/2008, there is much more to the law than meets the eye. 

For a start, one should note that UK was actually one of the first in the field, as this website helpfully shows: we go back to the Petroleum Act of 1879 and the Petroleum (Consolidation Act) of 1928. The latter remained (with subsidiary regulations) the major legislative control on the transport of all dangerous substances until the 1980s.

By then, EU had got into its stride and the issue had long been an EU “competence”. The original laws from that source was Council Directive 67/548/EEC, which was modified several times up to and including Commission Directive 86/431/EEC.

In 1978, however, there had been an appalling tanker disaster in Alcanar, near Tarragona, in Spain. A tanker truck loaded with 23 tons of highly flammable liquefied propylene had blown up, killing 217 people (including the driver). Some 200 more had been severely burned.

This triggered a period of legislative hyperactivity and by the early ’90s, there had been so many amendments that some tidying up was badly needed. The European Commission thus proposed consolidating law in 1993, and again in 1994, but the proposal was withdrawn on 9 January 2004 when it had become obsolete.

The reason for this is that global governance had taken over. In 1992 the lawmaking responsibility had been transferred to the United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED). It was coordinated and managed under the auspices of the Inter-Organisation Programme for the Sound Management of Chemicals (IOMC) Coordinating Group for the Harmonisation of Chemical Classification Systems (CG/HCCS).

Just to make it interesting, the participating organisations of IOMC were the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO), the International Labour Organization (ILO), the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), the United Nations Environmental Programme (UNEP), the United Nations Industrial Development Organization (UNIDO), the United Nations Institute for Training and Research (UNITAR) and the World Health Organization (WHO).

However, once work got underway, The Global Environment Facility, the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) and the World Bank joined the IOMC participating organisations. The joined with the International Forum on Chemical Safety (IFCS) in a steering committee established to oversee what became known as the Strategic Approach to International Chemical Management (SAICM).

To ensure this process ran on track, the technical focal points for completing the work were handed to the ILO, the OECD and the United Nations Economic Social Council’s Sub-Committee of Experts on the Transport of Dangerous Goods (UNSCETDG). Once completed in 2001, the work was transmitted by the IOMC to the new United Nations Economic and Social Council’s Sub-Committee of Experts on the Globally Harmonised System of Classification and Labelling of Chemicals (UNSCEG/GHS).

UNEP and WHO took lead roles in the secretariat in their respective areas of expertise and the Transport Division of the UNECE provided secretariat services.

With their assistance, the first version of a Globally Harmonised System (GHS) was approved by the Committee of Experts in December 2002 and published in 2003. It was this, plus revised editions published in 2005 and 3007, which is more or less the definitive version of the law. 

This, as we all know, forms the basis of Regulation (EC) No 1272/2008 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 16 December 2008. And, being a European Regulation, it takes direct effect, automatically passing into British law. It doesn’t even need the agreement of the Westminster Parliament.

Once we leave the EU, though, we can scrap this horrid EU law, wave goodbye to the New World Order and dust off the Petroleum Act of 1879 and the Petroleum (Consolidation Act) of 1928. Then, we can go back to Scammell tankers, Morris Marina vans and corner shops. All will be well with the world.

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Interestingly this Law, Edict, Convention, Agreement or what ever you wish to call it is thus a new version of Britain’s 1879 Petroleum Act as amended  as a Consolidation Act of 1928 as nacted by global agreement and signed into law by The Uruguayan Housing Minister and The Swedish Environment Minister on behalf of its global assentors! All this without so much as a murmur of British input to the new version and given the visible imprimatur, meaningless as it may be, of The EU!

It does rather put in perspective the naive and crassly irresponsible claims of Farage’s Party and his delusional fan club in the UKIP cult when they simplistically claim that Article #50 is a trap and that all Britain needs to do is pass some half baked three line paving act and send a bus to Brussels to collect our staff!

The staggering misunderstanding of their sometime economics spokesman Prof Tim Congdon is astonishing!

Granted he is an economic theorist and since economics is not a science but a mish mash of theories it is maybe not so surprising that he has so little understanding of the realities of international treaties as displayed in his writings and publications.

I happily concede I tend to read his papers and also his think tank web site not infrequently but I find it seems more to sell his viewpoint than to solve the problems of our nation or offer solutions for UKIP.

Let us not forget Congdon did try to gain the leadership of UKIP at one stage but seemed to be being sabotaged by his so called agent!

It would be interesting to watch the squirmings of both Farage and his clique and Tim Congdon as thery tried to address the outline of the enactment of law on a global basis! To date they have never come anywhere close to having a strategy for exit from the EU and the complexity of surviving the withdrawal.

Do not forget that UKIP has failed totally to address policies on a grown up basis endlessly coming up with half thought out policies where cutting their losses they never seem to competently cost their plans nor address the issues with any degree of gravitas tending to take the childish and irresponsible course of populism.

Fear is always a popular tool in the hands of the self obsessed and ambitious!
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Farage Party shows it’s Ayling Racism in UKIP

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as you will have noted in our posting last week, wewere aware that Nigel Farage’s letter was far from plausible and more than something of an over worked ‘device’:

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Here is the letter Nigel Farage mailed out on the subject – he even signed it which is rare as he is disincined to leave a trail of his actions as many have found to their cost!

AYLING, Victoria 02 FARAGE LETTER re!
May I suggest that you read the Daily Mail article and view the video to make your own conclusions!

It is, as I’m sure you are aware, a very old and well tried concept to deal with exposure and any form of criticism to claim you are obviously a threat and that is why you are being exposed for your corruption, criminality or whatever.

The aim is to get the more gullible of your followers to gather around you in sympathy at just how unfair it is!!

Even Kenneth Williams caught on to this commedy routine and used it in a carry on movie:
@Infamy, infamy they’ve all got it infor me’.

National Front past of UKIP star at centre of race row… and police probe into her ‘abuse’ of transvestite husband

  • Farage stands by ‘send them back’ councillor – and she wants to be an MP
  • But now Mail on Sunday reveals Victoria Ayling was at rallies of racist NF
  • She says she went as research for a law thesis at Southampton University
  • Police are investigating ‘hate crime’ over insult to cross-dressing partner

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Past: UKIP councillor Victoria Ayling attended National Front rallies, according to her ex-husband

Past: UKIP councillor Victoria Ayling attended National Front rallies, according to her ex-husband

The UKIP councillor at the centre of a racism row was a member of the far-Right National Front, it was claimed last night.

Victoria Ayling, a high-profile ‘trusted ally’ of UKIP leader Nigel Farage, joined the openly racist party and attended its rallies as a student, according to her former husband, a friend and even her own mother.

A Mail on Sunday investigation has also discovered Mrs Ayling is being investigated by police after allegedly making abusive comments about her former husband – who is  a transvestite.

The revelations come a week after this newspaper unveiled video footage of Mrs Ayling saying that all immigrants to Britain should be sent back home.

Mrs Ayling, who in March defected from the Tories by ambushing David Cameron after his party conference speech, was heard saying in the video: ‘OK, I just want to send the lot back, but I can’t say that.’

Now her mother, Brenda Brooks, and a family friend claim that Mrs Ayling joined the National Front in 1977 and went to meetings above a pub in Croydon, South London.

The friend also alleges that Mrs Ayling – who is known as a ‘Farage filly’ by UKIP insiders – attended a meeting at the home of a National Front candidate who stood for a seat in the 1979 General Election.

Speaking about her daughter’s past for the first time, Mrs Brooks, an artist and property developer, said: ‘Victoria was a member of the National Front and she went to marches and rallies.

‘She didn’t hide the fact that she was going to meetings. I wasn’t sure what the National Front was, I wasn’t a political animal. She just went there and that is what she did. I’m not saying it was the Girl Guides, but I saw it as a phase, part of her growing up.’

Stephen Agar, 50, a friend of Mrs Ayling’s who attended meetings with her as a teenager, added: ‘Victoria was a card-carrying member [of the National Front].

‘She didn’t just go along, she was engaged in it in a way that I was too for a while.

‘I was 14 at the time, she would have been about 18. We used to meet at the South Croydon branch regularly. She was active and took me along. I went along with her for about two years.’

 

Last night, Mrs Ayling denied being a member or supporter of the National Front, an extremist organisation that advocates the compulsory repatriation of all ‘non-white’ immigrants.

However, she admitted attending party meetings, saying it was for research on a thesis when she was studying law at Southampton University.

A statement released by UKIP said: ‘This required her to attend meetings from both sides of the political spectrum.’ It added that Mrs Ayling decided to drop the subject after feeling threatened at National Front meetings.

Extremist: National Front members march in London in 1975. The party wants all non-white immigrants deported

Extremist: National Front members march in London in 1975. The party wants non-white immigrants deported

However, her version of events was last night challenged by her mother, Mr Agar and her ex-husband, Rob Ayling.

Mr Ayling claimed that when his soon-to-be wife was hoping to become a Conservative party  candidate in 1999, the pair concocted a ‘cover story’ after she raised fears that her National Front past would be exposed.

‘She was very worried that the fact she was a National Front member would come out,’ he added.

‘We agreed – and I shouldn’t have done – that we would concoct a cover story that she had joined as part of her research for her university degree.

Joke: UKIP leader Nigel Farage chuckles at a meeting with under-fire 'rising star' Victoria Ayling

Joke: UKIP leader Nigel Farage chuckles at a meeting with under-fire ‘rising star’ Victoria Ayling

‘But she was studying law and there was no need for her to be researching that subject. Now that she has used that cover is no surprise to me at all. She is lying.’

Mr Agar added: ‘Before she went to Southampton she was going to National Front meetings. She was attending meetings while she was doing A-levels. She never mentioned to me that she doing anything as part of her studies, she was going because she wanted to.’

Mrs Brooks, 81, also rubbished her daughter’s claims last night, saying she had made the painful decision to speak about the past for the  sake of the family. ‘Victoria never mentioned anything about university work to me,’ she said. ‘That’s not it at all.

‘She was going to the meetings because she wanted to. I’m not being vindictive. I’m only telling the facts as they have happened.

‘I’m speaking because Victoria’s behaviour has negatively affected myself and my family.

‘Victoria was very forceful with her views, saying stuff like, “Let’s keep the blacks out.”

‘I didn’t know what the National Front was – as far as I was concerned they went up there, to London, marching up and down. That’s all I knew about it.’

Mrs Brooks, who has made a signed and witnessed statement on her daughter’s past, added: ‘She  has always been politically minded, I think she enjoyed the excitement of going up there and being in the meetings and being part of it. She mentioned a rally where they did carry banners.

‘Had she got involved in fighting, fracas and cheating and stealing that would have been different, but marches and banners didn’t seem particularly worrying.’

‘I repeat, if there had been anything untoward, like fights, she wouldn’t have been allowed to go. But it was just meetings and flags.’

Mrs Ayling, 54, was elected as a UKIP Lincolnshire councillor in May and, in a fast-track rise through the party, spoke at its annual conference in September. 

Shock: The video of Mrs Ayling saying of immigrants 'OK, I just want to send the lot back, but I can't say that' was exposed by the Mail on Sunday last week. She said the comments were taken out of context

Shock: The video of Mrs Ayling saying of immigrants ‘OK, I just want to send the lot back, but I can’t say that’ was exposed by the Mail on Sunday last week. She said the comments were taken out of context

But Mrs Brooks said of her daughter’s ambition to stand in the next General Election: ‘I don’t think she should be a politician. I don’t think she’s suitable. She hasn’t got any compassion; she wants to be the top dog. No, I don’t think she’s suitable, definitely.’

Mr Agar, who was a guest at Mrs Ayling’s first two weddings and lived opposite the family in Purley, South London, also claimed that Mrs Ayling took part in National Front demonstrations. 

‘Victoria was bold, even for a teenager and she was happy to argue her point with anybody,’ he said. ‘She also went with the National Front up to Brick Lane in London.

‘I didn’t go with her but she used  to tell me the stories. One time she said she and other men got chased into a pub. She did that at least once. She was 19 or 20. She held extreme views, but whether she does now or not I don’t know. We went for National Front meetings in the Swan and Sugarloaf pub in Croydon.

 
‘Victoria was very forceful with her views, saying stuff like, “Let’s keep the blacks out”.’

– Her mother Brenda Brooks, 81

 

‘The NF hired the top room from the landlord and we had meetings about once a month. There were probably 25 to 30 people at a meeting. All white, mainly men.

‘The meetings were one a month in the top room in the pub. She was still at home and she would drive and we would listen to speeches.

‘We did that for a year or two and I remember my last meeting was at the house of a local candidate, Roland Dummer. We went to his house in 1979 for a branch meeting. There were about 20 people there. It was the day Jim Callaghan lost a vote of no confidence by one vote [on March 28, 1979, triggering the General Election] – that’s why I remember the date.’

Mr Agar also revealed how he used to collect for the National Front in the streets near his home. ‘I collected in South Croydon and leafleted in Purley,’ he said. ‘I collected jumble – we called ourselves the Industrial Archaeological Society. It was wrong, people were giving stuff for a different cause.’

Mr Agar, who quit the National Front after a few years and said he has no personal axe to grind, that he was now speaking out in the interests of truth.

The Mail on Sunday can also reveal that Mrs Ayling and her new partner, Lord Kevin Couling – who purchased his title, the 64th Lord of Little Neasden – are also being investigated by police for an alleged hate crime against Mr Ayling.

The couple split in August last year after Mr Ayling had an affair.

Mr Ayling – who admits being a transvestite – alleges that when he was moving his furniture out of the matrimonial home, his former wife shouted at him: ‘You’re a bad tranny I’ve seen your website.’

A Lincolnshire Police spokesman said: ‘On July 13, a 54-year-old female and a 51-year-old male, both living at the same address, were voluntarily interviewed in relation to section 4 of the public order act, hate crime.’  Police are understood to be analysing an audio recording of the incident.

‘I’ve no need to apologise. My ex-partner is hell-bent on destroying my life’

INTERVIEW by Angella Johnson

Victoria Ayling speaking in 2007 on immigration in a DVD presentation filmed by her then-husband Robin Ayling
Victoria Ayling speaking in 2007 on immigration in a DVD presentation filmed by her then-husband Robin Ayling
Victoria Ayling speaking in 2007 on immigration in a DVD presentation filmed by her then-husband Robin Ayling
Victoria Ayling speaking in 2007 on immigration in a DVD presentation filmed by her then-husband Robin Ayling

Forceful: Part of the 20-minute video which we revealed last week. Mrs Ayling has blamed a smear campaign

Desperately fighting for her political career after being labelled a racist, UKIP councillor Victoria Ayling now claims to be the victim of a vicious smear campaign.

A video of Mrs Ayling – revealed by The Mail on Sunday last week – clearly showed her saying she wanted to send all immigrants back home.

But even after public outrage at her comments, she continues to claim she is not a racist.

Indeed, she appears to find the allegations against her deeply repugnant.

Bolstered by the personal backing of flamboyant UKIP leader, Nigel Farage, she remains unapologetic – and increasingly defiant.

‘I have nothing to apologise for,’ she insists, her tone strident. ‘I was referring to illegal immigrants. It would be stupid and unrealistic to expect all immigrants to leave the country.

‘Many of them have made very considerable contributions to our cultural and economic life. I also accept that genuine refugees and asylum seekers should be offered a home here, no matter their race or religion.’

It might seem damning that the video that exposed her was provided by her ex-husband, music company executive Rob Ayling, who was also behind the camera.

But Mrs Ayling claims it is merely the latest incident in a bitter vendetta being waged by her ex-husband – because she refused to accept his preferred lifestyle and sued for divorce.

Ex: Mrs Ayling claimed her former husband Robin Ayling (pictured) who filmed the outburst in 2007, is orchestrating a smear campaign. She said he cheated on her with other women and wore women's clothes

Ex: Mrs Ayling claimed her former husband Robin Ayling (pictured) who filmed the outburst in 2007, is orchestrating a smear campaign. She said he cheated on her with other women and wore women’s clothes

In her first interview since the video was made public, the 54-year-old claims Mr Ayling cheated on her with other women, enjoyed wearing women’s clothes and forced her to go out with him while he was dressed as his alter ego, Rebecca Adams.

In a bid to save her third marriage, she visited nightclubs with him and says she watched as he danced and flirted with other men. At one event, he took photographs of them together and later posted them on to a website for cross-dressing and transgender men – an attempt, she claims, to discredit her.

‘I suffered two months of bullying and intimidation after I found out about his adultery and that he was a transvestite,’ she says. ‘He made me do things I didn’t want to: things that nauseated me – like going out with him dolled up as a woman.

‘At first I went along with it because I didn’t want another failed marriage. After a couple of months, however, I realised it was not for me. Although I feared he would turn against me, I asked him to leave the family home in January 2011 and filed for divorce. He fought me all the way and kept threatening to go public with details of the divorce.

Rising star: Victoria Ayling with UKIP's Nigel Farage. The party has issued statements standing by her

Rising star: Victoria Ayling with UKIP’s Nigel Farage. The party has issued statements standing by her

‘I wanted to keep it all private to protect my children. So you can imagine how devastated I was by his betrayal. Did he even bother to think about how it might impact on the son we have together? The whole thing has been like a nightmare.’

Of course, if her own shocking revelations were to cause her former spouse embarrassment, so much the better.

Flag-waving: Victoria Ayling with a Union Jack umbrella at her six-bedroom mansion in Lincolnshire

Flag-waving: Victoria Ayling with a Union Jack umbrella at her six-bedroom mansion in Lincolnshire

‘I’m only talking about this now because I want people to know what was behind his decision to make those video out-takes public,’ she insists.

‘My ex-husband is bent on destroying me. It has nothing to do with him thinking I’m a racist or a bigot. 

He was very supportive of my political campaigns and didn’t have a problem with my views when the video was made.’

We meet at Mrs Ayling’s mansion in a leafy idyll on the edge of a Lincolnshire village.

The six-bedroom property, set in five acres, with a private cinema room, a pool and even a lake was a major bone of contention in the divorce.

She now shares it with her New Zealand-born partner, Lord Kevin Couling, and her sons.

Victoria’s first marriage in 1985 was to Linton Cook, which lasted four years. She then married Desmond Bowles, with whom she had two sons. They parted after seven years.

She was still living in Surrey when in 1998 she met Mr Ayling at a party. They married in Putney, South London, in June 2000 and their only child was born a year later.

She first stood as the Tory parliamentary candidate in Great Grimsby in 2010 and came close to winning a safe Labour seat, falling short by 714 votes. She is considered to be a rising UKIP star and hopes to stand for Parliament in 2015.

‘I think my ex was relying on UKIP chucking me out,’ she says, ‘but my views are exactly the same as my party. They know everything about me because I’ve not hidden anything from them.’

Mr Ayling said last night: ‘It makes me sad that my ex wife has chosen to attack me about my personal life. It is clearly an attempt to move away from the public interest in her.

‘The worse thing is that the person this really affects is our special needs son.’

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One has to wonder if Victoria Ayling is just along for the ride and to attack her ex husband she is clearly fulsome personally supported by Nigel Farage regardless of the best interests of UKIP in its pretence not to be a racist organisation.

Farage finds himself in an impossible position clearly unable to plausibly deny racism as a result of his chosen associates amongst the extremist xenophobes and racists in EU politics. Let us not forget that of the 18 MEPs elected by gullible UKIP voters 9 are no longer UKIP MEPs and the main cause has been Farage’s determination to link his party with extremists in the EU.

That UKIP’s best known policy is the populist and irresponsible anti immigrant policy and complete lack of a plausible exit and survival strategy relative to the EU does not help UKIP in its hollow denials of racism.

It may in some ways be fortuitous for UKIP that the BNP has collapsed but one need only watch Farage & Andrew Brons in a recent discussion to realise Farage is on weak ground with regard to denial of racism –
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> Le Pen, Bloom, Ukip, & some ‘untruths’

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/12/2013

> Le Pen, Bloom, Ukip, & some ‘untruths’
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> Marine Le Pen,Godfrey Bloom, Ukip, The EFD & some ‘untruths’! Deliberately laid out to mislead both members of UKIP and the media, it seems!

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you will have noted that some time ago this web site blog pointed out that despite the much vocalised proclamations that Godfrey Bloom had been removed from UKIP by Nigel Farage it seemed that Nigel Farage was so inept as a leader no one was listening and Godfrey Bloom was still listed as a member of Farage’s EFD Group and there was no sign that Bloom had been removed from Farage’s cult and seemed still to be not only a member of UKIP but still listed as a UKIP MEP.

Clearly Farage hasn’t a clue what is going on in UKIP and it would seem his leadership is so inadequate that no one listens to his diktat, when it suits them to ignore him.

Just who is the leader of the cult for we all know who they worship – their only recognised spokesman!

A GUEST POSTING:

This week in the European Parliament, at a press conference hosted by Marine Le Pen, a journalist enquired as to the possibility of Godfrey Bloom joing Le Pen’s far-right grouping after the 2014 euro elections.

Frank Obermeyer of the Austrian Freedom Party responded with some interesting statements.

“Godfrey Bloom is still a member of Ukip, and still a member of the EAF. We are working well with him, but at this moment it is uncertain if he will stand for Ukip, or as an independent”.

So there we have it.

Bloom’s reported resignation from Ukip did not happen.

Bloom’s reported resignation from the EFD group in the European Parliament did not happen.

As of today, Decemer 13th, Bloom is still listed as a Ukip MEP sitting in the EFD group, as is confirmed here.

It was Le Pen’s confirmation of Bloom’s leading role in the extreme right EAF that caused much embarrassment to the party. Now Obermeyer has confirmed that the link is still there.

We predict that Bloom will stand for Ukip in 2014, and that after the elections Farage will take the party into a far right group. His only problem is how to present himself in the British press as being senior to Le Pen.

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UKIP’s Reputation In The Gutter Over Racism AGAIN

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Hi,sadly it seems political retreads are all too often a liability – here again we see a turncoat from another party bringing UKIP further into disrepute!Again and again failures from other parties merely bring UKIP down – just consider David Bannerman, Marta Andreasen (qwho tried several other parties but could only eventually get into UKIP), Kilroy Silk, Neil Hamilton to name a few whose presence has befouled UKIP.

So I guess all we can say of Victoria Ayling is ‘here we go again’.

The association of UKIP, by leadership choice, with the gutter sweepings of EU politics in The EFD group and the rapid increase of members with the demise of the BNP makes it all but impossible for an honest and informed commentator to pretend UKIP is NOT a Racist Party.

‘Send them all back home’: In shocking video, UKIP councillor and key Farage ally launches astonishing racist rant… then tells MoS: ‘I stand by every word’

  • Victoria Ayling says all immigrants in Britain should be sent back home
  • Tells camera: ‘I just want to send the lot back, but I can’t say that’
  • UKIP leader Nigel Farage said her comments were ‘slightly odd’ 
  • Ayling said there is nothing ‘offensive or politically incorrect’ in video 

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A high-profile UKIP politician is facing a racism storm after being caught on camera saying all immigrants to Britain should be sent back home.

Victoria Ayling, who made headlines when she defected from the Tories in March, made the inflammatory comments in a 20-minute video seen by The Mail on Sunday.

On the subject of immigration she talks about restricting the numbers of foreigners entering the UK, but then adds: ‘I just want to send the lot back, but I can’t say that.’

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UKIP star: Victoria Ayling is facing a racism storm after being caught on camera saying all immigrants in Britain should be sent back home

UKIP star: Victoria Ayling is facing a racism storm after being caught on camera saying all immigrants in Britain should be sent back home

Defected: Ayling left the Tory party and joined UKIP in March and is a key ally of party leader Nigel Farage

Defected: Ayling left the Tory party and joined UKIP in March and is a key ally of party leader Nigel Farage

She then goes on to joke that her controversial remark could one day come back to haunt her. She said: ‘[It could be used for] some future get back at me. Bribery, blackmail – we need the blackmail music don’t we.’

Last night one MP said he was ‘disgusted’ by the comments that had ‘no place in front line politics’.

Mrs Ayling, 54, became a high-profile recruit to UKIP when she confronted David Cameron during this year’s Tory conference and told him she was leaving the party. She has been called a ‘trusted ally’ of UKIP leader Nigel Farage, so her comments will come as a blow to the party following a year of controversies. Earlier this year, MEP Godfrey Bloom provoked anger after referring to ‘Bongo Bongo Land’ in a speech about foreign aid. He later resigned from the party after he called some female activists ‘sluts’.

Mr Farage last night said that Mrs  Ayling’s comments were ‘slightly odd’. He added: ‘I have met her two or three times and I have discussed policy at length before accepting her into the party.

‘I had no reason to believe she held views that were extreme or inconsistent with ours. While this comment looks odd and unpleasant there may be a context here that is slightly different to the way it appears.’

 

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Defiant: Video filmed by Mrs Ayling's ex-husband Rob in 2008 and last night she said she stood by her comments

Defiant: Video filmed by Mrs Ayling’s ex-husband Rob in 2008 and last night she said she stood by her comments

Controversial: The 20-minute video was shot to promote her political career

Controversial: The 20-minute video was shot to promote her political career

UKIP want to end ‘mass, uncontrolled immigration’ but does not call for repatriation of legal immigrants.

The video was shot in 2008 – but Mrs Ayling last night said she stood by the comments.

Mrs Ayling’s husband, Rob, from whom she has since divorced, helped shoot the footage to promote her political career. In one take, she said: ‘We must basically repatriate those that shouldn’t be here. That’s not quite policy yet. Maybe I should soften it a bit.’ She then added: ‘OK. Send them back.’

Rob is then heard to mutter: ‘National Front.’

In the very next take, Mrs Ayling – a Lincolnshire County councillor and deputy leader of the local UKIP party – says : ‘Multiculturalism is dead, I’m allowed to say that, but maybe Britishness is waving the National Front flag a bit.

‘We must control immigration. We cannot sustain the numbers coming in; the strains on our infrastructure are enormous. Control should be done fairly and the points system like they have in Australia and all those coming here should be encouraged to speak English so they can integrate.’

She adds: ‘I just want to send the lot back but I can’t say that.’

Last night, Mrs Ayling insisted her comments were taken ‘out of context’ and she was only referring to illegal immigrants.

'Multiculturalism is dead': Mrs Ayling references the National Front during the video

‘Multiculturalism is dead’: Mrs Ayling references the National Front during the video

'Complete opportunism': Mr Ayling said the video was in the public interest as she tries to become an MP or MEP

‘Complete opportunism’: Mr Ayling said the video was in the public interest as she tries to become an MP or MEP

She said: ‘It is nothing different from what the Home Secretary is advocating now any way. And the blackmail music is from a Monty Python sketch. I don’t think there is anything there that can be seen as offensive or politically incorrect.’

‘I stand by what I said: illegal immigrants should be sent back home and multiculturalism won’t work. It was a throwaway comment that has been taken out of context.’

Speaking about the footage, Mr Ayling said: ‘Victoria said during the divorce she would never be entering national politics again. Now, with her being a rising star of UKIP,  I think it is a public interest story in terms of the electorate knowing what kind of a woman she is.’

‘I remember remarking that [her comment] was a little bit National Front and she replied that we should send them back. I wasn’t shocked as she’s like that all the time.’

‘Victoria will do anything to further her political career. She felt she was passed over by the Tories, that’s why she defected. She has a better chance of being an MP or MEP with UKIP. It is complete opportunism, power at all costs.’ Mrs Ayling was within 714 votes of becoming Tory MP for Grimsby at the 2010 Election, and since joining UKIP has enjoyed a high profile.

'Trusted ally': UKIP insiders said Mrs Ayling was 'fast-tracked' for a council seat

‘Trusted ally’: UKIP insiders said Mrs Ayling was ‘fast-tracked’ for a council seat

One insider said she was a ‘trusted ally’ of Mr Farage: ‘She was fast-tracked for a council seat and then went on the BBC politics show.

‘She was a “Farage filly”. She was on stage at main conference and was even invited down to London for a photoshoot by Nigel.’

The footage was shot when Mrs Ayling was seeking selection as a Tory candidate for EU elections and features soundbites on several issues.

In between takes she is asked about defence: ‘Do we want the French to order our troops?’.

She replies: ‘Sod that. Just think of Waterloo, bastards.’ When immigration is discussed Mr Ayling is heard saying: ‘And your favourite subject, immigration…’

The couple divorced acrimoniously last year and Mrs Ayling now lives with Kevin Couling, who calls himself a ‘Lord’ after buying a title. The couple gave an interview to German newspaper Der Spiegel in June this year in which Mrs Ayling said Mr Cameron should ‘declare a state of emergency and close the borders’ to curb immigration.

Last night, local MP Stephen Phillips, said: ‘Immigration is a huge issue. But anyone who says they “just want to send the lot back” has no place at all in frontline politics.

‘People who have come here to work hard, to live by British values and to contribute to our communities have always been welcomed.  [Many] will be as disgusted as I am by the views which Mrs Ayling apparently holds.’

Iraqi-born Tory MP Nadhim Zahawi called on Miss Ayling to ‘retract her deeply damaging comments’, adding: ‘Hard-working immigrants contribute significantly to the UK.’ And Labour’s Diane Abbot said she was ‘shocked’

A UKIP spokesman last night said the party stood by the councillor and that the media ‘hampered debate on immigration’ by ‘failing to make the distinction between a frank discussion and unpalatable views’.

‘Given that this was before the time Victoria joined UKIP we cannot comment on why this video was made for the Conservatives.

‘However, we can vouch for her as a capable and decent councillor and support her through this time.’

Mr Farage said he did ‘recruit’ Mrs Ayling but was not involved in her selection as a local candidate.

Holding court: Nigel Farage shares a joke with Victoria Ayling (left) and other UKIP members

Holding court: Nigel Farage shares a joke with Victoria Ayling (left) and other UKIP members

Tory defector who ambushed Cameron

Victoria Ayling hit the headlines earlier this year after ambushing David Cameron to tell him that she was leaving  the Tories.

Shortly after the Prime Minister had finished his Conservative conference speech on March 16, Mrs Ayling cornered him to say she was defecting to UKIP because the Tories were ‘no longer the party of aspiration’.

She claimed Mr Cameron ‘lost his temper’ and then ‘twisted’ her hand in anger – a claim that has been categorically denied by Downing Street.

UKIP leader Nigel Farage hailed Mrs Ayling’s defection as ‘fantastic’ and described her as a ‘talented and experienced person who will work hard across Lincolnshire, the East Midlands and, indeed, the county’. 

She was then parachuted into Lincolnshire to fight for a county council seat.

The ex who shot the video… and left for a beauty queen

Wedding: Mrs Ayling's ex-husband Rob Ayling with his new wife Kristian

Wedding: Mrs Ayling’s ex-husband Rob Ayling with his new wife Kristian

Mrs Ayling was left feeling ‘emotionally betrayed’ after her ex husband left her for a former beauty queen.

The UKIP councillor and Rob Ayling split acrimoniously last year after he had an affair with Kristian Darling. She was a finalist in the Miss America competition in 1987, aged 17.  

A decree absolute was issued in August last year.

Criticising Mrs Ayling for asking for too much from the settlement, a judge said at the time: ‘The wife has been unrealistic in this litigation.

‘She has no doubt felt emotionally betrayed but she has taken this beyond the bounds of common sense.’ 

Mr Ayling married Miss Darling on Easter Day this year. The couple divide their time between the US and UK.

Mrs Ayling  lives with Lord Kevin Couling, who is believed to have bought his title, the 64th Lord of Little Neasden.

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Here is the letter Nigel Farage mailed out on the subject – he even signed it which is rare as he is disincined to leave a trail of his actions as many have found to their cost!

AYLING, Victoria 02 FARAGE LETTER re!
May I suggest that you read the Daily Mail article and view the video to make your own conclusions!

It is, as I’m sure you are aware, a very old and well tried concept to deal with exposure and any form of criticism to claim you are obviously a threat and that is why you are being exposed for your corruption, criminality or whatever.

The aim is to get the more gullible of your followers to gather around you in sympathy at just how unfair it is!!

Even Kenneth Williams caught on to this commedy routine and used it in a carry on movie:
@Infamy, infamy they’ve all got it infor me’.

Dr. Richard North’s article on this hugely over used and largely ineffectual type of attempt at leadership deals with it well:

 UKIP: Mr Holmes suffers constipation

 Tuesday 10 December 2013

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“Infamy, infamy, they’ve all got it in for me”, goes the famous line from Kenneth Williams in Carry On Cleo. And now, as Oscar Wilde would have it, life follows art: Nigel Farage is telling his troops: “the establishment and media are out to get us”.

Actually, this invites another saying, something along the lines of the great detective Mr Holmes afflicted by a bout of constipation. The idea that the media will do anything other than indulge in mischief belongs in the land of the fayries.

Nonetheless, Farage has warned UKIP activists to be “extra vigilant” about any attempts to paint them in a “nasty light” after a video emerged showing councillor Victoria Ayling saying, of immigrants, she would like to “send the lot back”.

Not for UKIP though is the point made in my last piece that the antidote to this “nastiness” is a properly crafted policy on immigration. With Mr Cameron so clearly out of his depth, UKIP are staring down the mouth of an open goal. Yet, as so often, instead of propelling the ball into the net, the party goes out to lunch.

There in the latest part of the Government’s “Balance of Competences study” – to which UKIP has made no contribution – has been a perfect opportunity to shine. Looking specifically at freedom of movement, it had been due to be released yesterday. But, according to reports, it has now been shelved until next year because Theresa May takes issues with its findings.

Specifically, so much of the evidence submitted has been “broadly positive about current rules for freedom of movement” that the Government’s rhetoric about cracking down on migrants has been left in tatters.

Filling the political vacuum by putting together ideas which will serve to manage the immigration problem would not only be a public service. It would alsoshow up the embarrassing inadequacies of our policy-makers and serve to establish UKIP as a responsible political party.

It is in the absence of that comprehensive, workable policy that UKIP is prey to accusations of bad faith. It really is as simple as that. But the style of The Great Leader always has been more rhetoric than substance, the “man-in-pub” of British politics.

However, he plumbs new depths of absurdity when he urges supporters to remember that it is “not always clear who we can trust”. There are, says Farage, “many opportunists trying to undermine the party”. And with that, we wonder whether one of them, perchance, is called Nigel Farage.

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Maj. Niall Warry rtd. Provides Some Hometruths About UKIP

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Maj. Niall Warry rtd. Provides Some Hometruths About UKIP, based on a long term involvement in its management and leadership!!

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here is something of a GUEST POST by an individual I am proud to call a friend retired Army Officer Major Niall Warry who has been a committed political activist and commentator since at least 1997 when he was working with Jimmy Goldsmith’s team seeking not just return of our sovereignty by leaving the EU but also an improvement in the democratic process in Britain.

When The Referendum Party collapsed with the death of Jimmy Goldsmith Niall joined UKIP where his hard work and political acumen soon found him elected as Chairman of UKIP Wales, a position he held until the sad death of his wife and his subsequent relocation to Cheltenham where he was soon elected Chairman of the local party branch, which he held until relocation with his partner Angela to first Yeovil and soon after to his property in Westcombe.Whilst in Cheltenham Niall was appointed manager of UKIP’s head office a position he held until he met with opposition to his desire to make UKIP finances more transparent and accountable, at which stage he soon made powerful enemies who presumably wished to hide the facts one must assume to cover the dishonesty of their tracks!

Sadly a style of cover up that we see again and again in UKIP where the ruling class, many of whom have been found guilty of fraudulently obtaining money from the public purse in 10s of £1,000s – one need only consider the lies told and the bullying of those who made efforts to bring financial probity to the party like Richard Suchorzewki, Dr. Eric Edmonds, John West, John Whittaker, Dr. David Abbott, Ian Gilman, Del Young, myself and others.

It may astonish some, and should horrify all, when one realises the incredible levels of ‘churn’ that exist within UKIP where a staggeringly small percentage who join the party renew their memberships, almost half of the elected MEP’s have fallen out with Nigel Farage and his utter incompetence as a leader or delegator as he surrounds himself with cronies and where over 70 NEC members have been forced out or decided not to continue as they do not wish to serve in Farage’s party and be associated with the corruption of UKIP and style of behaviour.

Niall had by this stage seen through the thin veneer of populism by UKIP and saw its inconsequentiality and lack of achievement as being due to endless squabbling like ferrets in a sack amongst its leadership clique as they fought for positions on the EU gravy train and even on arrival just how little they did to work towards the core value of Leave-The-EU as they stuffed their pockets, their bellies and eachother!

More recently Niall, in realisation  that it is not party politics that are at fault and that whoever is elected the structure of our governance ill serves our peoples.

Not just bemoaning the obvious Niall set out with others to try to make a difference and is working towards that with a long term vision as a director of ‘The Harrogate Agenda’ with others, including its other prime mover, who I am also proud to call a friend, Dr. Richard North.

The concept they have launched on what can well be called a slow burn to produce a sound and solid grass roots movement driven from the people upwards just as they believe our Government should be considerably more answerable to and directly responsive to the electorate on a daily basis with 6 specific People Led demands.

All of the main thinking, background and details are laid out in a very well thought out and presented pamphlet which can be obtained for £5 by anyone who wants to make a difference.

To get your copy mail £5.00 + £1.10 P&P to:
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Larger quantities can be supplied for reduced rates of postage eg: 6 copies would only incur a P&P cost of £1.90.
I understand quantities of more than 20 copies ordered at one time can enjoy a discount – Do call Niall if you wish to purchase quantities of this thought provoking pamphlet.
Niall has assured me copies will be mailed out to you with the income being used entirely for the cost of the pamphlet P&P and forward growth of the movement.On a different tack and obviously not as a spokesman for THA but thoughts in his private capacity based upon his experience of politics and of UKIP in particular, a well informed opinion as having a sound foundation of knowledge and experience of the party he has kept constantly in touch with developments since he eventually left to try to make a difference not least of all by his efforts to expose the errors, corruption, lies, fraud and failures of UKIP with an intent to clean up the party to make it fit for purpose.

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I’m not too close to anything I’m now just a critical outsider, who was an insider, who sees beyond the rhetoric and analyses with others the detrimental effect Nigel and his cult EUkip is having on the Eurosceptic cause.

What you have to assess is how Nigel (and let’s face it UKIP is Nigel) is helping the UK safely navigate itself to an amicable divorce from the EU?

consider these points:-

1.So he addresses issues like immigration and EU road signs etc and more often than not gets the information wrong which simply assists the ‘Establishment’ portray UKIP as little Englanders.

2. Nigel does NOTHING to address and counter FUD which again leaves the Europhiles with the advantage.

3.On the election front as he has no strategy, tactics or plan he as yet is nowhere near getting an MP elected.

4. In the European parliament he is affiliated with the ‘far right’ which is a ticking bomb waiting to explode.

5. His selection of MEPs is based on their sycophantic value and not hier abiltiy.

6. He has driven out far more able people than he has kept.

7. He is pushing for an early referendum which we would undoubtably lose.

8. He has no intellectual base or think tank to assist and feed the ‘media’ with Eurosceptic facts.

9. He does NOT generally support and nuture the grass roots.

10. Add to all the above his overall corruption of the party which is another ticking time bomb waiting to explode.

I’m sure I could have listed other areas where Nigel and his cult EUkip are not helping the Eurosceptic cause but the above are reasons alone to say with certainty:-

UKIP IS NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.

Perhaps you, as a reader wishing to see UKIP made more fit for purpose, may wish to help by sending in additional points beyond the 10 Niall Warry has listed above..

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Mick McGough seemingly unable to avoid own goals!

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Mick McGough seemingly unable to avoid own goals!! 

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Mick McGough seemingly unable to avoid own goals! A style of behaviour which he unpleasantly and dishonestly employs in a somewhat deranged and dishonourable manner all too often bringing UKIP into disrepute repeatedly!

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I was much amused to see Mick McGough making a fool of himself but unfortunately his endless dishonesty, corruption and efforts to defame reflect badly on UKIP as he has managed, largely through dishonesty and cheating to become a member of the NEC.

He made the following comment on the UKIP controled and dominated so called British Democracy Forum, set up by that dishonest scoundrel Anthony Butcher in an effort to gain cudos with UKIP and get himself elected, at which he proved to be a spectacular failure though his toadying did get himself onto the NEC briefly but although quite competent in written format his communication skills andf inability to think on his feet let him down and he lost his position quite rapidly.

The odious proven liar and cheat Mick McGough today made the silly comment:

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What about the cult of liar GLW to whom you are in thrall Niall ? 

He really makes a fool of himself with his idiotic attacks – which he has never ever been able to justify or show provenance of, particularly in view of his proven track record of dishonesty and vile comments and behaviour many of which are, as you will have noticed, are shown on this blog and such documents as UKIP’s Returning Officer’s documented example of Mick McGough’s corruption, dishonesty and efforts to cheat his so called colleagues to get himself elected.

It is unfortunate for the EUroSceptic movement that they have so many unpleasant scoundrells like Mick McGough leaching off of the EUroSceptic cause – probably a very big part of why they have achieved so very little despite the vast amount of money they have squandered and stolen!

Endlessly attacking me for exposing the truth and for my campaigning to try to clean-up UKIP to try to make it fit for purpose clearly damages their claimed cause.

Not only is Mick McGough clearly a fool he is a dishonest & corrupt fool – sadly typifying others who have been raised to Farage’s NEC.

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On this web site this article has led to the following comment which I felt was aposite to publish in text, so that it is not overlooked:

geoffbastin said

I have read your statement about Mike McGough but have failed to read what it is that he is supposed to have written or said that makes him look foolish. You seem to specialize in sweeping statements without any real comment. I’m intrigued to know about the many you criticise have actual been guilty of or said and done. But them I suppose you can’t say without facing serious penalties for defamation or slander. This whole site is one big slanging match with those who no doubt called your bluff. You don’t really have any grounds for complaint apart from a big shoulder chip because you failed to gain a position within the party. I’m not surprised at the expulsions that have occurred from time to time but I know they don’t all go away and start a blog with comments such as yours. Why not try being nice and polite for a change after all life is short and hell comes around sooner than you think.
Have a nice life.

To which I responded:


Hi,

thanks for taking the time to try to explain your opinion.

If you want more facts on the liar and cheat Mick McGough you need only use >SEARCH<

or view:

You claim not to have read what McGough & others have said, yet it was in this instance precisely quoted with the source given!

You also accuse me of ‘sweeping statements’ with little comment – Perrhaps you have not read the 1,000s of links I have provided and the factual data I have provided in support of my statements in the some 2.1/2 thousand postings on this web site alone!

Perhaps you can name one example where I have used ‘bluff’ that someone may have ‘called’ as you suggest!

You might also care to provide a single unsustainable claim I have made or consequential error in my postings or any kind of untrue or unsustainable (un sourced & cross referenced) comment I have made let alone ‘slander’.

The site is not, as you disparagingly claim, ‘one big slanging match’ – it is an effort to provide a clear archive of the corruption, dishonesty, incompetence, greed and criminality of UKIP leadership clique and its noisome claque provided in an effort to forece UKIP, which has clearly been corrupted, to clean-up its act to make it fit for purpose to lead in the field of EUroScepticism to Leave-The-EU.

You show your lack of factual knowledge & show yourself to be rather foolish with your comment:

‘You don’t really have any grounds for complaint apart from a big shoulder chip because you failed to gain a position within the party.’

I have listed item after item of clear, unequivocal grounds for ‘complaint’ with extensive examples and cross referencing. Perhaps you can identify what you call a ‘chip on the shoulder’ beyond contempt at the betrayal of the electorate and the exploitation of the EUroSceptic cause by some in UKIP and their thefts from the public purse and self indulgent behaviour, dishonesty and self enrichment that has so damaged the cause.

You are completely wrong with your claim I have acted because I ‘failed to gain a position within the party.’ Firstly I have never had personal ambition to gain a political position, I have never joined UKIP nor any other political party nor put myself forward for any political party or political income or position in any party – clearly your comment is just a small minded and apparent attempt to defame me based on not a single fact!

You said:
‘I’m not surprised at the expulsions that have occurred from time to time …’

Nor am I but I find most of such expulsions to be inappropriate and seemingly made in self interest by the leadership clique with little or no honourable or acceptable due process and such expulsions have all too frequently been based upon lies and dishonesty by those who seek to suppress the facts, transparency, probity and the truth. Many competent activists and supporters have been forced out of the party ensuring the party has never presented a stance or gravitas and well informed data, guidance and leadership for our Country and its peoples.

You also said:
‘… but I know they don’t all go away and start a blog with comments such as yours.’

Would thaty they had as perhaps UKIP might have been cleaned-up by now and regained the support of the many 1,000s of decent informed activists of stature and gravitas who have left the party in disgust – they might now have achieved something of value towards Britain leaving the EU and a number of MPs of consequence and ability.

You also admonish:
‘Why not try being nice and polite for a change …’

I believe that being ‘nice’ is a matter of telling the truth and exposing corruption, dishonesty and betrayal, perhaps you could identify where I have been impolite as a theme!

It would be nice to see more people being honest and exposing corruption and self interest that is to the detriment of these United Kingdoms and its peoples – I shall continue to acquit my duty and call on people like you to find out the facts before jumping to conclusions and to act honourably and follow my actions to clean up UKIP to make it fit for purpose.

You also cautioned:
‘… after all life is short and hell comes around sooner than you think.’

Life is indeed short and it is terrifying how the self interests of a small group of scoundrels can so easily cause damage to a worthy cause like EUroScepticism as have a clique of self serving neredowells who control UKIP have done with their odious claque, all too often defaming and telling lies from a position of anonymity or in abuse of authority.

Sadly I can not share your superstitious belief in retribution in hell as that would give me great pleasure in the realisation that the evil actions of a few in UKIP would face such justice for their greed, self interest and dishonesty – even perhaps for their corrupt ineptitude!

Thank you for your opinion and now that you may find yourself in command of rather morer facts it will be interesting to see if you have the ethical grounding to offer an apology for your wild leap to judgement and resultant defamatory statements.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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Chris Pain Refutes Nigel Farage’s Racism Claims

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Chris Pain Refutes Nigel Farage’s Racism Claims
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Cllr. Chris Pain Refutes Nigel Farage’s Racism Claims made on behalf of his party!!

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Hi,

it has been clear for some time to those who are aware of what is going on in UKIP that the party is bereft of competent leadership and managed by bullying, back stabbing and bullsh*t.

It is sad to realise just how out of touch with common decency the leadership now is and how singularly incompetent they have become as they are too busy in fighting, like ferrets in a sack, to consider their duty to the electorate or the facts at grass roots level!

Clearly UKIP in its present state is unfit for purpose and utterly incapable of their patriotic duty in defence of these United Kingdoms in leading Britain to Leave-The-EU – as proven by their abject failure to achieve anything of value much beyond pranks and self serving schemes for self enrichment over 20 years!

Still UKIP has absolutely zero strategy and little understanding of tactics having failed to devise any concept of an exit and survival strategy with no clear plan for either exit or action thereafter.

UKIP is still peddling the outworn ‘isn’t the EU horrid’ mantras and failing to lay out the benefits and advantages of Britain Leaving-The-EU, having failed to realise the simple marketing fact that it is all but impossible and self defeating to try and sell a negative!

Yet again and again we see the UKIP clique placing proven inadequates with tired old failed ideas like Mark Croucher, Gawain Towler, Annabelle Fuller and their like merely for their ability to lie and reliable support of the inadequate leadership.

Chris Pain’s Letter:

My reply to Nigel Farage on ‘racism’ claim

In my right to reply concerning the accusations made against me by Nigel Farage following Question Time last week in Boston, please find attached my factual response to his allegations.This internal UKIP posting on the forum from Jonathan Arnott, general secretary of UKIP, reads: “the suspension isn’t anything to do with the ‘racism’ issue… The suspension is on two unrelated matters, both considered extremely serious by the party.” Unquote. Obviously Nigel Farage does not know why I have been expelled.

Firstly, the racist posts were proved never to be on my Facebook site. As you are aware this has been confirmed by the police.

Secondly, the two reasons I was suspended and ultimately expelled from the party was for forwarding an email to a UKIP MEP, who was entitled to the information, about the flawed MEP selection process.

The other reason was for recording a perfectly legal telephone conversation with the chief executive officer of UKIP which raised some serious issues about the MEP selection process and Steve Crowther’s (party chairman) integrity within the party.

I put an official complaint to the NEC on September 2 giving the information about Steve Crowther and I resigned from the NEC on September 3 stating I could not rubber stamp a flawed MEP selection process which did not represent the UKIP members. On Friday, September 6, Steve Crowther suspended me.

The five councillors have a written confirmation from the party secretary that they had done nothing wrong and were of good standing within the party. The action against these five raises further issues within UKIP.

Coun Chris Pain

To view the original letter CLICK HERE

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Documentary Proof of UKIP Corruption

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Documentary Proof of UKIP Corruption
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Documentary Proof of seemingly Criminal UKIP Corruption in perverting any meaningful democratic process in selection of candidates and officers!!

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.Hi,

earlier today, after a brief phonecall I was mailed the following copy of postings related to the corruption of UKIP and the apparent rigging the selection processes and internal elections in UKIP!

I have been unable to perform my usual checks on this material, however I do believe that it is an accurate report of that which it claims to expose and those shown to have been a part of the corruption, such as John Moran, Steve Crowther, Lisa Duffy, Peter Reeve and others have a track record where they have lied, cheated and corrupted UKIP.

I do believe the document I have been sent to be accurate and a sound report.

CROWTHER, Steve 02Steve CrowtherMORAN, John RU4OUT 01-08-12 02John Moran
at The Huntsman Hotel
at a meeting he lied about & denied attending

Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013
From: REDACTED
To:
Subject: Fwd: More on the MEP selection process – the maladministration of Steve Crowther

 

——– Original Message ——–

Subject:

 More on the MEP selection process – the maladministration of Steve Crowther

Date:

 Sun, 01 Dec 2013 15:24:26 +0000

As ever more evidence appears regarding the maladministration taking place under the auspices of Steve Crowther, one has to wonder how he’s able to get away with it.  It can be taken as read that Crowther is a bully, but bullies are inherently cowardly.  Clearly, therefore, at least in my humble opinion, he is not acting in this way without the clear consent of A.N. Other(s).

Nothing shows this more clearly than in the debacle known as the UKIP MEP candidate selection process! Below you will find extracts from a statement made by a member of the NEC, as well as direct quotes from relevant NEC minutes.

A.
PS: The full statement is attached. In large part it deals with the removal of Mike Nattrass as a candidate, but what happened in the West Mids will be recognised in other regions!!!

 

NOTES REGARDING SUBMISSION OF STEVE CROWTHER

 
Mr. Crowther states an “independent panel”  was used.

The panel finally used (and it was not appointed by the NEC when actioned) has at least six people who, in my opinion and personal knowledge of people within UKIP,  I would NOT select for such a panel on the grounds of them having either potential self interest (as employees for example whose salary is dependent on the patronage of the Leadership), and/or,  of being potentially subject to undue influence from the Leadership by being close friends (like John Moran and Mr Crowther);  or very close to the Leader’s organisation for his European election campaign (such as Roger Bird).

I believe the pre-selection part of the process to be flawed,  and fatally so from a democratic point of view for UKIP members.

The pre-selection process over which you have presided which you freely admit was carried out without proper resolutions obtained is, in my opinion, seriously flawed.

I believe the results are so anomalous, and have caused such widespread dissent in the party with those affected,  as to indicate that one of two things has happened, or both:-

1) either that part of the process of selection has been seriously deficient in how it was developed and/or applied;
or
2) there has been maladministration in some form or another applied by one or more persons involved.

I  disassociate myself from it  as being the exact opposite of what was intended.

I believe it allows the possibility of, and certainly allows the accusation of, potential gerrymandering,  and I believe is fatally flawed as a democratic process by not conforming properly in its development to the Party Constitution and Rules, also by potential maladministration and/or misapplication of the rules by the party chairman Mr. Crowther.

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Ref Minutes of NEC 13th May discussion of MEP Selection.

NEC Minutes of 13th May clearly state certain people who are well known in the party, of good repute, and of good standing were to be used for that panel.

There was no dissent of these people in the NEC and an amendment to T.3.2  was proposed and carried.

Those people listed were:-

George Curtis (NEC member);
Sebastian Fairweather (NEC member);
Jeffrey Titford (Ex Party Leader);
Rachel Oxley (Ex-NEC member and head of an Independent school);
Roger Bird (Chairman of the SE selection committee and Nigel Farage’s organiser for the European elections);
Steve Crowther (chairman of the NEC);
Peter Reeve (Party Nominations Officer).

The selection panel actually used however,  was considerably different and was NOT approved by the NEC at that time,   and contained people who would in my opinion, most certainly have caused considerable debate in the NEC as to their suitability.

…… with near 100% certainty one in particular,  who was associated in one previous UKIP EU election in assisting the present Leader,  as manager and director of a Telephone Call Centre for donations, which had a bank account set-up for the Leader’s region without the knowledge of the then Party Treasurer.{Refers to John Moran}

On the 17th Aug Steve Crowther requested a vote by e-mail of all the NEC,  to make a resolution for the acceptance of a selection panel of three including himself, as he had not finished the process. This is after I had questioned the legality of the selection panels vis a vis UKIP constitution and rules,  and is a tacit admission that the selection panels were indeed deficient by not having NEC approval.

The Party Secretary {Jonathan Arnott?} first claimed he had carefully examined all the papers regarding the MEP selection process,  and said the whole of the selection process was legally sound in all respects {assuming this is Arnott speaking, his ability to make a ‘legal judgement’ is somewhat limited}.

He then later changed this opinion to an acceptance of what he called a “technicality” whereby the selection panel was deemed to be ultra vires because it had not been approved by the NEC.

On the 18th August,   Steve Crowther then called for a retrospective vote of the NEC by e-mail to regularise the deficiency.

He wanted a rapid resolution within 24 hours.

The Party Secretary claimed this was legally acceptable {see above},  and claimed it would have made no difference to the acceptance of these people if it had been put to the NEC properly earlier.

This is an incredible statement.
As a long-standing NEC member I dispute this vociferously.

The selection panel contains a significant proportion of people who were NOT on the original list put to the NEC on the 13th May and would certainly have caused considerable debate and some dissent in the NEC with some of the newly introduced people.

It was discussed briefly at NEC that party employees should not be a part of the selection process because they might be considered to have a interest in that their salary is dependent upon the patronage of the party leadership; but that was never resolved one way or another with a vote.

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Further to Ref:  Paragraph 10

Para 13 states:-

“In this iteration of elections UKIP has worked especially hard to ensure that the process for selection of candidates has been as fair and transparent as possible”.

This is an incredible statement.

As an NEC member I do not feel this process has been transparent regarding the selection process at all.

In fact it is completely opaque to me as an NEC member representing the UKIP membership.

I cannot possibly say to the UKIP members “I know the process was undertaken with complete transparency and think it to be fair and equitable”.

I do not think that at all.

A sub-committee was formed but its required  functions were never satisfactorily carried out, nor its deliberations presented properly to the NEC for ratification.

This resolution for the formation of a sub-committee is contained in the following:

Document:
MEP Candidate Selection Process 2013  Revised 29.04.13
provided by Steve Crowther says:-
The sub-committee will establish a Selection Panel comprising five members selected for their experience, judgement and availability who will oversee and manage the process.

This sub-committee and its formation is mentioned in document to the NEC from Steve Crowther:
marked:

NEC 7 January 2013   MEP SELECTION

which says:-
An NEC sub-committee was set-up in October, comprising members of the NEC who are not intending to stand for MEP selection.

NEC sub-committee:-
Steve Crowther,
George Curtis,
Douglas Denny,
Toby Micklethwait,
Alan Bown,
Lisa Duffy (a),
Peter Reeve (a),
Michael Greaves (a)
(a=Advisory)

That sub-committee only sat for two sessions only  that I remember, (possibly three),  but no minutes were taken, though they should have been,  (which is why I cannot remember if two or three meetings occurred),  and not even the sub-committee’s outline decisions were given as written presentation to the NEC;  and no specific criteria for selection/assessment were ever discussed by that committee or the NEC.

As a committee it might as well have not existed.

Correct due process of the sub-committee, required by the NEC in a resolution (as above) was NOT carried out.
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Another example of maladministration of the process used for MEP selection by Mr. Crowther, is that at the NEC discussion on the process, it was agreed that no member of UKIP of less than one year’s good standing would be eligible to stand as a candidate, ……

I am given to understand this NEC requirement in the selection rules of at least one year’s membership in good-standing for eligibility appears to have been ignored completely.
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I have tried to ameliorate the problems by suggesting modifications to the process which could be easily implemented by resolution(s) of the NEC (obtained within the 24-hour format that Mr Crowther has already done in this case to retrospectively obtain correct due process),   and for an extraordinary meeting of the NEC to be called rapidly (within the week) when I first raised my concerns with the party chairman; but all these protestations have been turned down by the Party chairman and NEC chairman Mr. Crowther.

Note: The author of the above, Doug Denny, was removed from the NEC for submitting these statements to the Party. 

If you truly value democracy you must demand that Crowther is dismissed forthwith and that the whole selection process be revisited.

To do otherwise is akin to approving the aforesaid maladministration of Steve Crowther.

Make of this document what you will, but I for one find it to be further conclusive and irrefutable evidence of the corruption of any sort of acceptable democratic due process.That it is these same people who seek positions of Governance and the style of their corruption could well metastasise like a cancer to being a method of Governance in these United Kingdoms if they are allowed to continue their obscene self serving and self enriching behaviour shows them clearly to be unfit for purpose, unfit for public office and arguably to be criminally corrupt.

The following is a more comprehensive exposee of the abuse of authority and criminal style behaviour of UKIP leadership clique and its appointed claque:

NOTES REGARDING SUBMISSION OF STEVE CROWTHER

 

Ref Claim 3BM30448

Exhibit SJC1

 

Statement.

DENNY, Douglas 01

Douglas Denny.

NEC member.

 

Ref para 10. Mr. Crowther states an “independent panel” was used.

As the longest serving continuous elected member of the NEC I dispute this vociferously.

The panel could not be said to be “independent” in my opinon. There were people who could be said to have self-interest, or the Leader’s interests on the panel used.

 

The panel finally used (and it was not appointed by the NEC when actioned) has at least six people who, in my opinion and personal knowledge of people within UKIP, I would NOT select for such a panel on the grounds of them having

either potential self interest (as employees for example whose salary is dependent on the patronage of the Leadership),

 

and/or, of being potentially subject to undue influence from the Leadership by being close friends (like John Moran and Mr Crowther); or very close to the Leader’s organisation for his European election campaign (such as Roger Bird).

It is well known within the party, that the Leader Mr. Nigel Farage harbours grudges, and does not wish Mr. Nattrass to

be on the listing for MEP election because of the latter’s independent frame of mind and previous clashes of personality

with him over UKIP’s political directions.

Mr. Nattrass, however, is one of the longest serving members of UKIP with the greatest contribution to the party next to

the Leader Nigel Farage. His record of loyalty to the party is exemplary, he has spend a large amount of his time in his

life promoting and assisting the party; put literally many thousands of pounds of his own money into the party, and been

in most of the top positions serving the party eg: Deputy Party Leader; Party Chairman and Chairman of the NEC (the

position now held by Mr. Crowther).

That he has not been selected for the shortlist because, as Mr Crowther says: ” he simply came below the list of sixty

selected (because he is not good enough being implied)” is patently ridiculous in the extreme.

I wrote to Mr. Crowther:

I believe the pre-selection part of the process to be flawed, and fatally so from a democratic point of view for UKIP

members.

The pre-selection process over which you have presided which you freely admit was carried out without proper

resolutions obtained is, in my opinon, seriously flawed.

I believe the results are so anomalous, and have caused such widespread dissent in the party with those affected, as to

indicate that one of two things has happened, or both:-

1) either that part of the process of selection has been seriously deficient in how it was developed and/or applied; or

2) there has been maladministration in some form or another applied by one or more persons involved.

Had there been a selection of candidates by the previous process which was Regional selection by the membership;

almost certainly in my opinion, Mr. Nattrass would have come to the top of the listing for that region. To suggest he is

not good enough compared to some of those on the list accepted now is wrongful, highly anomalous and indicates there

is a severe breakdown somwhere in the process used. It is literally incredible.

This present process I helped to develop, but it has apparently become born as an abortion of that intended, which was to

allow the UKIP members a fair and clearly tranparent election of the best potential canidates to become UKIP MEPs. I

disassociate myself from it as being the exact opposite of what was intended.

I believe it allows the possibility of, and certainly allows the accusation of, potential gerrymandering, and I believe is

fatally flawed as a democratic process by not conforming properly in its development to the Party Constitution and

Rules, also by potential maladministration and/or misapplication of the rules by the party chairman Mr. Crowther.

——————————–

Ref Minutes of NEC 13th May discussion of MEP Selection.

NEC Minutes of 13th May clearly state certain people who are well know in the party, of good repute, and of good

standing were to be used for that panel.

There was no dissent of these people in the NEC and an amendment to T.3.2 was proposed and carried.

Those people listed were:-

George Curtis (NEC member);

Sebastian Fairweather (NEC member);

Jeffrey Titford (Ex Party Leader);

Rachel Oxley (Ex-NEC member and head of an Independent school);

Roger Bird (Chairman of the SE selection committee and Nigel Farage’s organiser for the European elections);

Steve Crowther (chairman of the NEC);

Peter Reeve (Party Nominations Officer).

The selection panel actually used however, was considerably different and was NOT approved by the NEC at that time,

and contained people who would in my opinon, most certainly have caused considerable debate in the NEC as to their

suitability.

Had those names been put to the NEC prior to the retrospective call for their appointment, and before they were used, I

would say some would most certainly have caused dissent, and with near 100% certainty one in particular, who was

associated in one previous UKIP EU election in assisting the present Leader, as manager and director of a Telephone

Call Centre for donations, which had a bank account set-up for the Leader’s region without the knowledge of the then

Party Treasurer.

On the 17th Aug Steve Crowther requested a vote by e-mail of all the NEC, to make a resolution for the acceptance of a

selection panel of three including himself, as he had not finished the process. This is after I had questioned the legality of

the selection panels vis a vis UKIP constituion and rules, and is a tacit admission that the selection panels were indeed

deficient by not having NEC approval.

The Party Secretary first claimed he had carefully examined all the papers regarding the MEP selection process, and

said the whole of the selection process was legally sound in all respects. He then later changed this opinon to an

acceptance of what he called a “technicality” whereby the selection panel was deemed to be ultra vires because it had not

been approved by the NEC.

On the 18th August, Steve Crowther then called for a retrospective vote of the NEC by e-mail to regularise the

deficiency. He wanted a rapid resolution within 24 hours. The Party Secretary claimed this was legally acceptable,

and claimed it would have made no difference to the acceptance of these people if it had been put to the NEC properly

earlier.

This is an incredible statement. As a long-standing NEC member I dispute this vociferously.

The selection panel contains a significant proportion of people who were NOT on the original list put to the NEC on the

13th May and would certainly have caused considerable debate and some dissent in the NEC with some of the newly

introduced people.

The ‘new’ listing of people was:-

Steve Crowther

Chairman of the Party and NEC. Designated chairman of the Selection Panel.

Peter Reeve

National Nominating Officer, and party employee.

George Curtis

NEC member of long standing,

Sebastian Fairweather

NEC member

Jeffrey Titford

Former MEP, former Party Leader, current Party President.

John Harvey

Former NEC member

Rachel Oxley

DID NOT PARTICIPATE. Former NEC member and Party Vice-Chairman.

Steph McWilliam

Chairman of Cornwall

Harry Aldridge

Former Chairman of Young Independence

John Moran

Long-term activist and donor. Founder director of the Ashford call centre.

Chris Cassidy

Treasurer of Young Independence.

Recently appointed National Database Manager at Lexdrum House. Party employee.

Derek Clark

Retiring MEP, long-term former NEC member.

Will Gilpin (stand in)

Party Chief Executive. Used once as a stand-in when John Moran was unable to attend a London meeting. Party

employee.

Roger Bird

Surrey County Chairman. SE Regional commmittee and likely organiser of Nigel Farage’s European election campaign.

Of these; Steve Crowther; Wil Gilpin; Chris Cassidy; Peter Reeve are party employees. It was discussed briefly at

NEC that party employees should not be a part of the selection process because they might be considered to have a

interest in that their salary is dependent upon the patronage of the party leadership; but that was never resolved one way

or another with a vote.

——————–

Further to Ref: Paragraph 10

Para 13 states:-

“In this iteration of elections UKIP has worked especially hard to ensire that the process for selection of candidates has

been as fair and transparent as possible”.

This is an incredible statement.

As an NEC member I do not feel this process has been transparent regarding the selection process at all. In fact it is

completely opaque to me as an NEC member representing the UKIP membership. I cannot possibly say to the UKIP

members “I know the process was undertaken with complete transparency and think it to be fair and equitable”. I do not

think that at all.

All that was achieved by NEC resolutions was an agreement for outline process stategy, such as the change from

Regional to a National ballot of members; of a selection process where all candidates would be ranked by a points

system; and to use an outside agency for “psychometric testing” as part of and only as an additional assistance to the

points system testing/assessment.

The most important and crucial part of the whole process however, i.e. the deciding of the actual criteria for

discrimination of the MEP candidates in the selection process was to be delegated to a sub-committee of which I was a

member; of non-interested persons i.e. not taking part in the MEP election.

In fact, to ensure ‘transparency’ and equitability, the NEC decided that all aspects of the MEP selection process was to

be decided by a delegated sub-committee specifically for the purpose, and this was decided by the NEC months before.

A sub-committee was formed but its required functions were never satisfactorily carried out, nor its deliberations

presented properly to the NEC for ratification.

This resolution for the formation of a sub-committee is contained in the following:

Document: MEP Candidate Selection Process 2013 Revised 29.04.13

provided by Steve Crowther says:-

The sub-committee will establish a Selection Panel comprising five members selected for their experience, judgement

and availability who will oversee and manage the process.

This sub-committee and its formation is mentioned in document to the NEC from Steve Crowther: marked:

NEC 7 January 2013 MEP SELECTION

which says:-

An NEC sub-committee was set-up in October, comprising members of the NEC who are not intending to stand for MEP

selection.

NEC sub-committee:-

Steve Crowther, George Curtis, Douglas Denny, Toby Micklethwait, Alan Bown, Lisa Duffy (a), Peter Reeve (a),

Michael Greaves (a)

(a=Advisory)

That sub-committee only sat for two sessions only that I remember, (possibly three), but no minutes were taken, though

they should have been, (which is why I cannot remember if two or three meetings occured), and not even the subcommittee’s

outline decisions were given as written presentation to the NEC; and no specific criteria for

selection/assessment were ever discussed by that committee or the NEC. As a committee it might as well have not

existed. Correct due process of the sub-committee, required by the NEC in a resolution (as above) was NOT carried out.

To this day I have no idea what criteria were decided upon for discrimination between candidates – that ended up entirely

under the jurisdiction of one person and of his devising – that is Steve Crowther chairman of the NEC. Mr. Crowther

never never put any of those crucial criteria forward for acceptance or discussion by the sub-committee (as should have

been done) – nor even to the the full NEC.

He took it upon himself to go ahead regardless.

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Another example of maladministratoin of the process used for MEP selection by Mr. Crowther, is that at the NEC

discussion on teh process, it was agreed that no member of UKIP of less than one year’s good standing would be eligible

to stand as a candidate, but that an appeal panel would be formed to consider special cases on appeal if, for instance, a

high profile candidate appeared.

I am given to understand this NEC requirement in teh selection rules of at least one year’s membership in good-standing

for eligibility appears to have been ignored completely. There are some on the short list with less than one year’s

membership I am told, whereas Mr. Nattrass has been an active member from shortly after the inception of the party.

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It is my honest belief that due process has not been carried out properly by the Party under the remit of the Party

Chairman to the detriment of a number of potential candidates including Mr. M. Nattrass. That Mr. Nattrass has a just

case for complaint; and that the process as applied was deficient in transparency and fairness to all.

I have tried to ameliorate the problems by suggesting modifications to the process which could be easily implemented by

resolution(s) of the NEC (obtained within the 24-hour format that Mr Crowther has already done in this case to

retrospectively obtain correct due process), and for an extraordinary meeting of the NEC to be called rapidly (within

the week) when I first raised my concerns with the party chairman; but all these protestations have been turned down by

the Party chairman and NEC chairman Mr. Crowther.

Douglas Denny.


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Greg_L-W..

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