Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W)
Mick McGough seemingly unable to avoid own goals!
Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/12/2013
Mick McGough seemingly unable to avoid own goals!!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! .
The corruption of EUkip’s leadership,
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name! .
Mick McGough seemingly unable to avoid own goals! A style of behaviour which he unpleasantly and dishonestly employs in a somewhat deranged and dishonourable manner all too often bringing UKIP into disrepute repeatedly!
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Hi,
I was much amused to see Mick McGough making a fool of himself but unfortunately his endless dishonesty, corruption and efforts to defame reflect badly on UKIP as he has managed, largely through dishonesty and cheating to become a member of the NEC.
He made the following comment on the UKIP controled and dominated so called British Democracy Forum, set up by that dishonest scoundrel Anthony Butcher in an effort to gain cudos with UKIP and get himself elected, at which he proved to be a spectacular failure though his toadying did get himself onto the NEC briefly but although quite competent in written format his communication skills andf inability to think on his feet let him down and he lost his position quite rapidly.
The odious proven liar and cheat Mick McGough today made the silly comment:
Today, 04:54 PM #3808
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What about the cult of liar GLW to whom you are in thrall Niall ?
He really makes a fool of himself with his idiotic attacks – which he has never ever been able to justify or show provenance of, particularly in view of his proven track record of dishonesty and vile comments and behaviour many of which are, as you will have noticed, are shown on this blog and such documents as UKIP’s Returning Officer’s documented example of Mick McGough’s corruption, dishonesty and efforts to cheat his so called colleagues to get himself elected.
It is unfortunate for the EUroSceptic movement that they have so many unpleasant scoundrells like Mick McGough leaching off of the EUroSceptic cause – probably a very big part of why they have achieved so very little despite the vast amount of money they have squandered and stolen!
Endlessly attacking me for exposing the truth and for my campaigning to try to clean-up UKIP to try to make it fit for purpose clearly damages their claimed cause.
Not only is Mick McGough clearly a fool he is a dishonest & corrupt fool – sadly typifying others who have been raised to Farage’s NEC.
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On this web site this article has led to the following comment which I felt was aposite to publish in text, so that it is not overlooked:
geoffbastin said
I have read your statement about Mike McGough but have failed to read what it is that he is supposed to have written or said that makes him look foolish. You seem to specialize in sweeping statements without any real comment. I’m intrigued to know about the many you criticise have actual been guilty of or said and done. But them I suppose you can’t say without facing serious penalties for defamation or slander. This whole site is one big slanging match with those who no doubt called your bluff. You don’t really have any grounds for complaint apart from a big shoulder chip because you failed to gain a position within the party. I’m not surprised at the expulsions that have occurred from time to time but I know they don’t all go away and start a blog with comments such as yours. Why not try being nice and polite for a change after all life is short and hell comes around sooner than you think.
Have a nice life.
To which I responded:
Greg Lance-Watkins said
Hi,
thanks for taking the time to try to explain your opinion.
If you want more facts on the liar and cheat Mick McGough you need only use >SEARCH<
or view:
You claim not to have read what McGough & others have said, yet it was in this instance precisely quoted with the source given!
You also accuse me of ‘sweeping statements’ with little comment – Perrhaps you have not read the 1,000s of links I have provided and the factual data I have provided in support of my statements in the some 2.1/2 thousand postings on this web site alone!
Perhaps you can name one example where I have used ‘bluff’ that someone may have ‘called’ as you suggest!
You might also care to provide a single unsustainable claim I have made or consequential error in my postings or any kind of untrue or unsustainable (un sourced & cross referenced) comment I have made let alone ‘slander’.
The site is not, as you disparagingly claim, ‘one big slanging match’ – it is an effort to provide a clear archive of the corruption, dishonesty, incompetence, greed and criminality of UKIP leadership clique and its noisome claque provided in an effort to forece UKIP, which has clearly been corrupted, to clean-up its act to make it fit for purpose to lead in the field of EUroScepticism to Leave-The-EU.
You show your lack of factual knowledge & show yourself to be rather foolish with your comment:
‘You don’t really have any grounds for complaint apart from a big shoulder chip because you failed to gain a position within the party.’
I have listed item after item of clear, unequivocal grounds for ‘complaint’ with extensive examples and cross referencing. Perhaps you can identify what you call a ‘chip on the shoulder’ beyond contempt at the betrayal of the electorate and the exploitation of the EUroSceptic cause by some in UKIP and their thefts from the public purse and self indulgent behaviour, dishonesty and self enrichment that has so damaged the cause.
You are completely wrong with your claim I have acted because I ‘failed to gain a position within the party.’ Firstly I have never had personal ambition to gain a political position, I have never joined UKIP nor any other political party nor put myself forward for any political party or political income or position in any party – clearly your comment is just a small minded and apparent attempt to defame me based on not a single fact!
You said:
‘I’m not surprised at the expulsions that have occurred from time to time …’
Nor am I but I find most of such expulsions to be inappropriate and seemingly made in self interest by the leadership clique with little or no honourable or acceptable due process and such expulsions have all too frequently been based upon lies and dishonesty by those who seek to suppress the facts, transparency, probity and the truth. Many competent activists and supporters have been forced out of the party ensuring the party has never presented a stance or gravitas and well informed data, guidance and leadership for our Country and its peoples.
You also said:
‘… but I know they don’t all go away and start a blog with comments such as yours.’
Would thaty they had as perhaps UKIP might have been cleaned-up by now and regained the support of the many 1,000s of decent informed activists of stature and gravitas who have left the party in disgust – they might now have achieved something of value towards Britain leaving the EU and a number of MPs of consequence and ability.
You also admonish:
‘Why not try being nice and polite for a change …’
I believe that being ‘nice’ is a matter of telling the truth and exposing corruption, dishonesty and betrayal, perhaps you could identify where I have been impolite as a theme!
It would be nice to see more people being honest and exposing corruption and self interest that is to the detriment of these United Kingdoms and its peoples – I shall continue to acquit my duty and call on people like you to find out the facts before jumping to conclusions and to act honourably and follow my actions to clean up UKIP to make it fit for purpose.
You also cautioned:
‘… after all life is short and hell comes around sooner than you think.’
Life is indeed short and it is terrifying how the self interests of a small group of scoundrels can so easily cause damage to a worthy cause like EUroScepticism as have a clique of self serving neredowells who control UKIP have done with their odious claque, all too often defaming and telling lies from a position of anonymity or in abuse of authority.
Sadly I can not share your superstitious belief in retribution in hell as that would give me great pleasure in the realisation that the evil actions of a few in UKIP would face such justice for their greed, self interest and dishonesty – even perhaps for their corrupt ineptitude!
Thank you for your opinion and now that you may find yourself in command of rather morer facts it will be interesting to see if you have the ethical grounding to offer an apology for your wild leap to judgement and resultant defamatory statements.
Regards,
Greg_L-W.
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geoffbastin said
Your response is certainly prompt and thorough although it does not address my allegations. As someone coming to your site and finding an immense amount of headings, which when after examination finds that it goes back several years, I wonder how relevant it is to today. Also as you will realise this article in question fails to identify or list what specifics you are alluding to.
I read someone is dishonest or worse and yet there are no examples given. I don’t have time to start digging through loads of historical stuff and when I do I still can’t get to the crux of what is being suggested. But even when I can find a snippet of information it appears to be rather historic. Perhaps I’m expecting a newspaper type article. However it does not mean I shall stop visiting your blog although I would suggest a more précised approach if you wish to keep people’s attention.
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Greg Lance-Watkins said
Hi,
on the one hand you bemoan the inadequacy of information and on the other you complain there are facts going back many years – no pleasing some ;-(
I believe any unresolved theft, fraud, corruption or lie has no statute of limitation, particularly when in public office or funded as an employee from the public purse! That is particularly the case in politics when the matter remains unresolved and is an offence against the people or a private individual not seeking public office or funding.
As to the specific comment ,in this instance, by the odious liar Mick McGough it typifies the style of the low life who brings UKIP into disrepute frequently – you will find it is not only quoted in the posting, namely:
‘What about the cult of liar GLW to whom you are in thrall Niall ?‘
The source is also clearly displayed together with a photo of McGough looking particularly foolish, together with reference to the Forum he has posted on.
Thus I regret your comment rather confuses me – how much more info do you need!!!
If despite this you are still confused by all means call me for clarification if that would help you.
As to style of posting – no this is NOT a newspaper but I do try to make each posting freestanding as it is added to the archive – an archive which is used on a regular basis by various newspapers and an archive that has contributed to several court cases and enquiries not to mention been the main protagonist in putting one MEP in prison for his fraudulent embezzling of public funds.
You will appreciate that I do not seek people’s attention but to provide an archive that may even, at this late stage, provide a service to clean-up UKIP and possibly make it fit for purpose meanwhile exposing the scoundrels who are exploiting, befouling & hindering the EUroSceptic movement and EUroRealism in general.
I trust this helps to clear up your confusion.
Regards,
Greg_L-W.
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geoffbastin said
I have read your statement about Mike McGough but have failed to read what it is that he is supposed to have written or said that makes him look foolish. You seem to specialize in sweeping statements without any real comment. I’m intrigued to know about the many you criticise have actual been guilty of or said and done. But them I suppose you can’t say without facing serious penalties for defamation or slander. This whole site is one big slanging match with those who no doubt called your bluff. You don’t really have any grounds for complaint apart from a big shoulder chip because you failed to gain a position within the party. I’m not surprised at the expulsions that have occurred from time to time but I know they don’t all go away and start a blog with comments such as yours. Why not try being nice and polite for a change after all life is short and hell comes around sooner than you think.
Have a nice life.
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Greg Lance-Watkins said
Hi,
thanks for taking the time to try to explain your opinion.
If you want more facts on the liar and cheat Mick McGough you need only use >SEARCHhttp://mike-mcgough.blogspot.co.uk<
You claim not to have read what McGough & others have said, yet it was in this instance precisely quoted with the source given!
You also accuse me of 'sweeping statements' with little comment – Perrhaps you have not read the 1,000s of links I have provided and the factual data I have provided in support of my statements in the some 2.1/2 thousand postings on this web site alone!
Perhaps you can name one example where I have used 'bluff' that someone may have 'called' as you suggest!
You might also care to provide a single unsustainable claim I have made or consequential error in my postings or any kind of untrue or unsustainable (un sourced & cross referenced) comment I have made let alone 'slander'.
The site is not, as you disparagingly claim, 'one big slanging match' – it is an effort to provide a clear archive of the corruption, dishonesty, incompetence, greed and criminality of UKIP leadership clique and its noisome claque provided in an effort to forece UKIP, which has clearly been corrupted, to clean-up its act to make it fit for purpose to lead in the field of EUroScepticism to Leave-The-EU.
You show your lack of factual knowledge & show yourself to be rather foolish with your comment:
'You don’t really have any grounds for complaint apart from a big shoulder chip because you failed to gain a position within the party.'
I have listed item after item of clear, unequivocal grounds for 'complaint' with extensive examples and cross referencing. Perhaps you can identify what you call a 'chip on the shoulder' beyond contempt at the betrayal of the electorate and the exploitation of the EUroSceptic cause by some in UKIP and their thefts from the public purse and self indulgent behaviour, dishonesty and self enrichment that has so damaged the cause.
You are completely wrong with your claim I have acted because I 'failed to gain a position within the party.' Firstly I have never had personal ambition to gain a political position, I have never joined UKIP nor any other political party nor put myself forward for any political party or political income or position in any party – clearly your comment is just a small minded and apparent attempt to defame me based on not a single fact!
You said:
'I’m not surprised at the expulsions that have occurred from time to time …'
Nor am I but I find most of such expulsions to be inappropriate and seemingly made in self interest by the leadership clique with little or no honourable or acceptable due process and such expulsions have all too frequently been based upon lies and dishonesty by those who seek to suppress the facts, transparency, probity and the truth. Many competent activists and supporters have been forced out of the party ensuring the party has never presented a stance or gravitas and well informed data, guidance and leadership for our Country and its peoples.
You also said:
'… but I know they don’t all go away and start a blog with comments such as yours.'
Would thaty they had as perhaps UKIP might have been cleaned-up by now and regained the support of the many 1,000s of decent informed activists of stature and gravitas who have left the party in disgust – they might now have achieved something of value towards Britain leaving the EU and a number of MPs of consequence and ability.
You also admonish:
'Why not try being nice and polite for a change …'
I believe that being 'nice' is a matter of telling the truth and exposing corruption, dishonesty and betrayal, perhaps you could identify where I have been impolite as a theme!
It would be nice to see more people being honest and exposing corruption and self interest that is to the detriment of these United Kingdoms and its peoples – I shall continue to acquit my duty and call on people like you to find out the facts before jumping to conclusions and to act honourably and follow my actions to clean up UKIP to make it fit for purpose.
You also cautioned:
'… after all life is short and hell comes around sooner than you think.'
Life is indeed short and it is terrifying how the self interests of a small group of scoundrels can so easily cause damage to a worthy cause like EUroScepticism as have a clique of self serving neredowells who control UKIP have done with their odious claque, all too often defaming and telling lies from a position of anonimity or in abuse of authority.
Sadly I can not shre your superstitious belief in retribution in hell as that would give me great pleasure in the realisation that the evil actions of a few in UKIP would face such justice for their greed, self interest and dishonesty – even perhaps for their corrupt ineptitude!
Thank you for your opinion and now that you may find yourself in command of rather morer facts it will be interesting to see if you have the ethical grounding to offer an apology for your wild leap to judgement and resultant defamatory statements.
Regards,
Greg_L-W.
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