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‘Prober’ is likely to be defamed by UKIP’s Toxic Claque

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/08/2012

‘Prober’ is likely to be defamed by UKIP’s Toxic Claque

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

‘Prober’ is likely to be defamed by UKIP’s Toxic Claque!
I expect he works for MI5 or MI6 or is funded by The EU or The Tory Party & how much is he being paid – We should be told!

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such a pity that ‘Prober’ lacked the conviction or perhaps self confidence to put his name to the very clear and largely spot on accurate posting he has made, on Anthony Butcher’s corrupt little UKIP controlled forum – where any lie is accepted from the UKIP gutter snipes with their faux pretence of manners as they sneer and snipe, whilst themselves all too often too cowardly and ashamed to put their names to their vile comments and duplicitous distortions.
You can hear it all lined up:
He works for MI5 or The CIA or The EU and no one would tell the truth unless they were paid, and any other vile distortion from the underbelly of politics that we have heard time and again, so damagingly for UKIP, from its odious claque.
No – whatever the pond life from UKIP comes out with it is clear they can not reasonably with any intelligent presentation or intellectual gravitas refute or even put a sound point of view to counter ‘Prober’s’ statements of irrefutable fact.
UKIP has a broad “out ” aim but seems to have no strategy or pathway or campaign aims and no real strategic measures of success of stepping stones to achieving “out”.
For example it rates gaining more MEPs as a major success achievement but has never had any plan to focus the time resources and £ of MEPs to actually do anything to further ” out” ( Hence most MEPs being engaged in irrelevant displacement activity and Marta fiddling on committees in Brussels, with UKIP’s Brussels success ticked off as achieved by winding up Gollum in Brussels) .
So getting more MEPs doesnt necessarily mean ANY advance in success in achieving “out” ( even if UKIP won all MEP seats and the mega £ that goes with it )

Winning local authority seats is rated as success but UKIP has no idea what it wants to do in those seats either to advance “out” or advance a domestic political aim.

Getting a higher % vote is rated as success and the publicity that goes with it but that is only a success if it puts fear in other parties to stop them doing things to advance the EU cause .

UKIP has no MP failure targetted pressure/publicity strategy focussed on key stages ( eg EU budget or parliament nodding through more EU legislation ) to install such fear.
Is there any evidence that UKIP has influenced ANY of Cameron’s Europhile decisions ? If so UKIPs web site would be crowing about it not just moaning about whats going on.

Scoring higher % potentially puts fear into Europhile MPs that UKIP will target and embarrass them for their remaining term in office and install realisation in Tory branches that UKIP is going to lose them their seat at the next election unless they select a EU sceptic Tory candidate .

UKIP has no such “make life miserable” targeting .

Very small parties like SWP achieve influence by infiltration into other other parties .

UKIP has no infiltration strategy.

A success aim would be a high level of public understanding and approval of

a) What EU does and why EU is bad for their pockets and health
b) the legal pathway to a referendum on out and legislation to achieve out
c) A vision for and how UK would operate successfully politically economically and in trade after achieving out
d) A vision of what a new “progressive” EU would look like after return of powers to national democracy
e) What UKIP’s role would be after “out”. UKIP does none of these education things ( and historically says public education is not its job even to the extent it cant be bothered to design it own schools pack to replace the EU one )

At present press talk is of Farage offering not to put up candidates to oppose EU sceptic candidates but except for very few, Tory EU sceptic MPs have always rolled over when the whips say “jump” so having neutralised itself how does this strategically advance UKIP’s aim of “out” ? (Cameron wont allow joint candidates)

The effect of UKIP standing in all seats at a general election under its classic hand off statement of  “all other parties are just the same ” will be Labour winning the general election with its Europhile candidates not exposed or threatened by UKIP.

Fair enough but whats the strategic plan in all this to further the cause of “out” with Labour winning ?
How will it make more likely Labour will commit to a referendum ?
For example there is major opportunity to challenge the anti democracy position of the Europhile anti UKIP bigoted far left in Labour and make the case of national democracy being consistent with patriotic democratic socialist principles and work and family based values.

UKIP seems more a lazy sham party with members as lemmings following the leader wherever he points, with phony yardsticks of success , riding on macro events in its favour which give it a phony approval rating as the only protest vote party of significance , and actually deliberately detached from what is really needed to make a political impact .

So whats UKIP’s real aim ?

To destroy and replace the Tory Party ?
To that UKIP will really have to get serious .
To keep NF as leader doing his thing and having a wonderful time unchallenged as long as poss ?
To get the Tory party to offer NF a safe seat as MP to neutralise UKIP ?
To put enough fear and pressure on the Tory Party to ditch Cameron turn round and do the right thing …. again UKIP will really have to start to get serious … especially on infiltration.

An alternative out route would be to build a Pan Europe “out” movement electing “out” MEPs to achieve change from within .

NF seems to want this but cant carry his party with him.

UKIP, whilst claiming “most people agree with us” has never tried to connect with the public as a domestic party ( hence disastrous results at Buckingham and in London) or as a Respect route protest vote party, and thus has no prospect of winning an MP seat.

Hence the route to “success” will be achieving like minded MPs being elected in Labour & Tory parties. ( Lib Dems being totally opposed to national sovereign democracy )

In summary therefore other than ” existing because it exists” and congratulating itself on “success” whats UKIP for ? and what is its pathway and strategic plan to achieve it ?

To view the original article CLICK HERE
All on a thread titled ‘What Do UKIP Stand For’ I submit one only needs to read the postings of the UKIP leadership supporters on that very thread to realise!
UKIP stands for the very worst form of gutter politics, playground level bullying, corruption and dishonesty – based largely upon the self interests of a small clique of self serving, self enriching low lifes who are defended by a claque of cowardly, dishonest wannabes funded from  or encouraged by the riches of The Gravy Train, which are in the gift of Nigel Farage.
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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians,  and Snivil Cervants having conveniently forgotten that they are our servants and not our masters as taxation has inexorably climbed to fund their ambitions and the value of money has diminished as the publish ever more to cover-up their incompetences all enforced by the new style self serving and politicised enforcers The Police aided by increasingly corrupted Courts.

Astonishingly this odious betrayal of OUR Country and its values is aided and colluded in by the MSM as entertainment so readily plunges ever further to the gutter creating people who become famous for the size of their rewards and their notoriety as ‘celebs’!.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, as even if ALL Britain’s MEPs agreed and were of one party they amount to less than 8% of the input and a miniscule proportion of decision making!

Clearly The EU is set up to ensure its very size and diversity ensures democracy is self cancelling and ever more power falls into the hands of the unelected self styled and utterly corrup elite – None of whom have one iota of democratic mandate to back their corrupt social engineering and EUgenics.

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Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In over 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that goal, despite their claimed unanimity of aim!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country, Anglosphere and indeed planet which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Self evidently ‘The Harrogate Agenda‘ may not be the answer but that men and women are responsibly striving to create a better system for a better world deserves all the help we can give it whether with ideas, participation or merely our support.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

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The Lies & Dishonesty of UKIP & its claque

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/08/2012

The Lies & Dishonesty of UKIP & its claque
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I note with no surprise the TOTAL failure of UKIP claque to identify a single solitary factual error that could be presented as a lie on the whole of this blog, my 1,000s of other postings and the blog of Junius.
On the thread at Anthony Butcher’s UKIP controlled Forum subsequent to yet another idiotic post from the undeniably proven liar and cheat CLICK HERE Mick McGough in cowardly and dishonest efforts to defame me made the unsustainable and libellous claim that I was a ‘lier’ (sic).
At my request Richard Allen the only moderator of the Forum who is known to me to be currently functioning and who I believe to act honourably asked Mick McGough UKIP NEC member and active participant in The CIB & The Freedom Association who regularly drags the reputation of those organisations into the gutters he seems so at home in to either substantiate his claim or withdraw it with a published apology.
Mick McGough has proved totally unable to provide a single example, consequential or otherwise and even the dishonourable claque of sock puppets acting in support of UKIP have clearly failed to provide a single solitary consequential and or accurate example of a single lie in all the 1,000s of postings.
I have stated that the squalid little Forum in question is UKIP controlled and that the owner Anthony Butcher is a contemptible and cowardly liar and pawn of UKIP – A statement which I am happy to repeat and can clearly show to be true.
After dishonest claims made by Paul Nuttal UKIP party leader founded on outright lies and distortions Anthony Butcher acquiesced to their demands that matters of proven and undeniable fact which I had accurately reported on the Forum, of which I was then a member, were removed and I was censured for publishing proven truthful facts.
I was on a later date banned from membership based on lies and the dishonest actions of Anthony Butcher for having stated that Peter Reeve an employee of UKIP as Regional Organiser at the time was under Police investigation for assault and I also provided an accurate crime log number or case number.
I therefore state unequivocally that Anthony Butcher is a cowardly, unethical and corrupt liar and that clearly the Forum he owns is corrupt and corrupted being under the control of UKIP – hence no doubt that defamatory statements and lies about me regularly are hosted by Anthony Butcher on behalf of UKIP’s supporters and their claque of cowardly sock puppets.
Efforts have also been dishonestly made to misrepresent my statements regarding the unfortunate murder of Anna Lindh by a disaffected Sami, details of which can be found at CLICK HERE as ever made by a coward too ashamed to put their name to their false and base efforts to defame.
Another odious coward sheltering behind anonimity in a desperate attempt to defame and dissemble made the comment:
I was just now reminded that GLW and Junius have both claimed Nikki Sinclaire has published her “fully audited accounts”. That is not a claim I recall Ms Sinclaire making herself so I make no criticism of her on the point. That she has published her “fully audited accounts” is a straightforward lie by both GLW and Junius. I recall mentioning at the time the possible reputational damage this could cause RSM Tenon. His recent claims about a large and important readership for his blogs could help them quantify any damage they might think has been caused by his lies about their work for Ms Sinclaire.
Let us consider this largely dishonest and clearly untrue statement!
I was just now reminded that GLW and Junius have both claimed Nikki Sinclaire has published her “fully audited accounts”.
Perhaps the odious coward will note that both Junius & I have made the statement and provided links to accounts presented on her blog and her web site that have been audited by her reputable firm of auditors, as any member of the public can check and see.
Accounts which were audited to ensure transparency of her expenditure for her constituents.
Interestingly her accounts have not been called into question by OLAF or The EU payments office though I understand that allegations made to British police have resulted in an inquiry into the complainant John Ison and to what extent he was acting on the brief, direct or indirect, of Nigel Farage, his agents and his personal interests as a party.
That is not a claim I recall Ms Sinclaire making herself so I make no criticism of her on the point.
Perhaps rather than distort the truth the cowardly poster in question would care to see the accounts as audited on Nikki Sinclaire’s web site.
That she has published her “fully audited accounts” is a straightforward lie by both GLW and Junius.
The claim is an unmitigated lie made by a coward too ashamed to put their name to their dishonest claims – no doubt all too ready to use weasle words in defence of their dishonesty.
I recall mentioning at the time the possible reputational damage this could cause RSM Tenon.
Yes indeed this particular coward has a near obsessive track record of dishonesty and malicious mischief making in efforts to defame.
His recent claims about a large and important readership for his blogs could help them quantify any damage they might think has been caused by his lies about their work for Ms Sinclaire.
I stand by my claims of readership in the terms they were presented in the blog in question and to the best of my knowledge the readership of Junius which is around 1/4 Million per annum I understand.
The reader can easily check the veracity of my statement with regard to my blog by checking the claims of UKIP when they lost the case against me in Cardiff Courts as fronted by their employee Mark Croucher and supported in Court by evidence led by Paul Nuttall MEP and Clive Page press officer.
To date UKIP has failed to honour its clear debt to me for the costs incurred by the case they lost of around £12.1/2 thousand and Mark Croucher sheltered behind domicile in The EU failing to honour The Court Awards – showing a complete contempt on the part of UKIP and its staff for British Justice despite claiming political aspirations!
It is very clear that despite line by line scrutiny of my postings UKIP, its sock puppets and its claque have proved completely unable to show a single solitary lie deliberately made of any consequence in ANY of my postings or those of Junius.
This makes the cyber bullying and serial dishonesty of UKIP claque all too clear and shows in their failure to act honourably and their dishonesty in failing to censure these liars and low lifes an unarguably display of the irefutable fact that with their present leadership team and structure they are clearly unfit for purpose and bring British politics into disrepute and obviously are unfit for public office funded from the public purse.
How can a party which harbours so many liars, so many cyber bullies and so many people too ashamed to use their own names in their efforts to climb the greay pole be seen as other than a part of the very problem relative to The EU rather than having any part in the possible solution.
We have in UKIP a party which has a leader with a reputation and much publicity as a drunk who despite being married with young children gains coverage for consorting with prostitutes.
Another MEP who when arrested copulating with a black prostitute on the bonnet of a car in a public street dragged UKIP’s name and that of Britain into the gutter he clearly inhabits by avoiding consequence claimed diplomatic imunity.
An MEP with a track record of racism, incitement to racial hatred by publishing inciteful anti Muslim literature and a willingness to misrepresent the truth to seek to abuse those who speak out against his vile behaviour and associates and a willingness to abuse his public office for personal gain and waste Police time based on his dishonesty.
Yet another MEP who when exposed for fraud set about a long and dishonest campaign to defame and abuse using lies and deceit for his personal gain and when exposed aiding and abetting The EU made no apology to members or his electorate. Similarly when found guilty of stealing public money for unlawful use, as did Tom Wise, lied again and again to his members, his electorate, his regional committee and lied and defamed myself and Junius in his efforts to cover up knowledge of his theft.
To quote but a few instances – besides the serial lies and liars regarding myself and Junius in efforts to suppress the truth about UKIP and its unsuitability by seeking to dishonestly defame our publication of facts.
I have little doubt that Mick McGough, who would seem to show he is utterly without morality or any understanding of integrity, will again prove to be without honour and not man enough to retract his dishonest claims and fantasies and apologise – probably seeking to shelter in some low life form of weasle words to avoid being man enough to admit he has lied.
Similarly the liar Derek Clark is unlikely to issue an apology for having lied about me or Junius – nor will UKIP NEC member Douglas Denny as it would seem UKIP leadership and its claque are without ethicsa, integrity or understanding of honourable behaviour or morality.
In that NOT ONE of these low lifes has EVER denounced the corruption that is self evidently an integral part of UKIP leadership and its claque it is clearly true to state that without exception they are unfit for any office, unfit to seek votes and the right to represent anyone other than their own venal self interested greed.
Each and every member of UKIP leadership is colluding in dishonesty, corruption, racism, anti Judaism, anti homosexuality and clearly aiding The EU in that they unarguably befoul the reputation of Britain and the EUroSceptic Movement such as their dispicable antics have reduced it to at the very time when popular support to Leave-the-EU is at its highest yet DESPITE UKIP!
Again I clearly and unequivocally state I have NEVER wittingly and deliberately luied or set out to mislead ANYONE and will be only too happy to continue to ensure the accuracy and honesty of the facts I publish as CLICK HERE
My thanks to Richard Allen for at least making some effort to make UKIP leadership and claque act honourably. Will they be banned for life for having lied and defamed, dissembled and distorted on behalf of UKIP just as I was banned for life for accurately reporting true facts about UKIP?
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