& For Election Year – Ukip & The Box Of Frogs that forms their legal representatives, associates, prospective candidates and even deputy leaders – not to mention the sociopathic standards of their so called leader! who many have of course seen through! But then again I have consistently cautioned ‘The higher up the tree the monkey climbs the more you see its @rse’
as is becoming ever more apparent in the media as Nigel Farage’s irresponsibility and sociopathy comes under ever greater scrutiny.
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Hi,
firstly a Happy New Year to you all and may 2015 bring us all an irrevocable step nearer to our aim to Leave_The_EU. I hope you all had a great holiday period and return to the fray to work towards ensuring an IN/OUT Referendum and the task of ensuring we win the right to Leave_The_EU conclusively by ensuring thwe public are reassured as to the benefits of being a self determining democracy trading as an independent Nation world wide.
To move forward into the fray and arm for the battle ahead to obtain our independence and repatriate our democracy reinstating our borders and justice system with a restrengthened Westminster with the integrity to represent our peoples rather than themselves!
I have almost without exception enjoyed the perspicacity of Suzanne Cameron-Blackie aka Anna Raccoon whose sharp wit and ascorbic pen I have followed for many years.Again and again she deals in areas where I have experience of the scoundrels concerned be they Robert Green, Anne Greig (aka McKay), David the liar and fruit loop Icke, creepy little Brian Gerrish, the odity Tony Bennett and many more – not least of whom is Michael Shrimpton who somewhat embarrassingly had rather overstayed his couple of nights stay in my home when he once again ‘heard voices’ and saw fit to use my phone to relay his maunderings about nuclear bomb threats, using my phone!Read on, as I am sure you will enjoy the cutting wit of Anna Raccoon and her wicked expose of Rannock’s village idiot the Ukip buffoon and sometime deputy leader then leader for Scotland Christopher Monkton (could that be aka Sacha Cohen?), as much as you may derive amusement from Hayley O’Keeffe’s somewhat kinder reportage of the pure humour of Michael Shrimpton’s parody of himself which she so ably covers ‘with a wink and a nod’!
On Ascending to Insanity and Shrimpton Fishing.
by Anna Raccoon on November 26, 2014
I have often pondered why the cliché is ‘descending into madness’ – given the number of people who end up firmly believing that they are the son of the Man upstairs, and spend the rest of their life with arms outstretched and tending their goatee beard, having moved from ‘talking to themselves’ to believing that they are in fact God, or at least JC – without passing ‘Go’. Surely the cliché should be ‘Ascending to Insanity’?
What is the alchemy by which so many people end up convinced by the same fantasy? I have just caught up with a documentary on James Randi – available for another six days on iPlayer, and I cannot recommend it highly enough – utterly enthralling to anyone interested in how and why people not only become consumed by irrational beliefs, but that so many people become consumed by the same beliefs – without ever meeting each other. Randi’s thesis (very roughly!) boils down to a view that people ‘believe what they need to believe, though they think they ‘chose’ what to believe’. Randi describes replicating Uri Geller’s spoon bending trick and revealing it to be part of the Magician’s arsenal of trickery – ‘Geller Believers’ accused him of having psychic powers himself and ‘being in denial’…I was promptly reminded of the time I was accused of having ‘buried’ the ‘traumatic’ occasion on which Savile abused me in a Duncroft dormitory in 1965….it being ‘unbelievable’ to a ‘true believer’ that when I said he simply wasn’t there – that he simply wasn’t there!
Suddenly, our world is full of people who have just realised they were abused in childhood by a celebrity – and there’s not a spoon bender in sight. Vanished, the lot of them. Mind you, there aren’t too many people abducted by aliens around at the moment, either. Each of these ‘beliefs’ have their own lingo – and it is extraordinary how quickly people catch onto the new lexicon. I watched a documentary on Broadmoor too (part two tonight!) and marvelled at how, even incarcerated in there for 25 years, the Thesaurus of abuse had penetrated. Elderly patients now claim to have been ‘groomed’ in childhood, ‘plied’ with alcohol – nobody ever admits to having shoplifted alcohol any longer, or lied to get into a pub underage, as we used to – nope, they now remember they were ‘plied with alcohol’ by sinister older figures – and I wonder how much of this can be accounted for by an instinctive understanding of the lexicon that well meaning counsellors ‘need to believe’.
Before I had time (or rather inclination, let’s be honest here) to put pen to paper – along came Michael Shrimpton QC. What can I say? Wow! Put’s Andrea Davison in the shade.
“In my report to the joint of intelligence committee, in the case of Madeleine McCann, She was going to be abused by a senior member of the European commission in Brussels whose name is known to British Intelligence, I can’t identify him in Spyhunter but I know who it is, there is no way that Madeleine could ever be returned alive to her family because the danger would be even at her tender age of 4 she would recognise him and know who was abusing her. So the Germans had to murder her and indeed they eventually did sadly in December 2008″
Strange how the same people pop up time and time again in different conspiracy theories. I ran into quite a few old ‘acquaintances’ from the height of Madeleine hysteria, the Hollie Grieg hoax, Common Purpose, et al as I researched Michael’s ‘ascendancy’ to hallowed high priest of the child abuse clique and honoured guest and Guru for David Icke. These people must watch ‘Google trends’ like a hawk, and at the first sign of a word trending, formulate a theory full of buzz words like ‘cell’, ‘disinformation’, ‘intelligence operative’, and of course, the ever popular ‘plied’ and ‘grooming’. I’m amazed that none of them latched onto the Oscar Pistorius story, he could have been groomed by South African Intelligence, jailed so that he could be ‘terminated with prejudice’ and never reveal the presence of nuclear weapons removed from the Kursk when it sank, and, and, and….
Too late, Mark Williams-Thomas had already latched onto the Pistorius family…you have to be quick in this game.
Michael had been at full pelt while the media were interested in the London Olympics: he phoned a secretary at the Aylesbury Conservative Association – as you do when you are a self proclaimed ‘intelligence expert on national security’ – and patiently explained to her that German intelligence, which is ‘now in control of Al Qaeda’ was quietly steaming up the Thames in a submarine loaded with nuclear weapons removed from the Kursk, etc, etc,
‘The information was extraordinary and dramatic, in essence Mr Shrimpton announced that a nuclear weapon stolen from the sunken Russian submarine the Kursk a number of years ago, that such a nuclear weapon had been smuggled into the UK and was being stored in a London hospital in preparation to be used during the Olympic games.
He followed this up with calls to the Defence Secretary Philip Hammond to say that this ‘ere nuclear warhead had been stashed in an east London hospital…
His defence case statement filing is a joy to read…if you are behind in your study of current buzz words, do catch up – he has managed to work every single current conspiracy theory in there…but yesterday, our ‘corrupt judiciary’ (every conspiracy theorist knows that our judiciary is corrupt -and, er, Michael should know, ‘cos he used to be a judge…) sent him off for psychiatric evaluation before passing sentence on a charge of ‘communicating false information’. Will he end up in Broadmoor? He will certainly liven up that august establishment, and join forces with the ‘groomed’ and plied’ inhabitants of child abuse fantasy land – oh, did I mention that Michael is already on the sex offenders register? [see the article below this article re Michael Shrimpton’s conviction for child porn – appeal!] Framed by the Secret Service, see.
No surprise to find that he was at university with Meirion Jones, Child Abuse Exposer Extraordinaire….
See, I was planning to write a piece yesterday about the latest Labour initiative about ‘Tory toffs’ and top public schools, and how Labour were going to remove their charitable tax relief if they didn’t start lending their best teachers to state school, and Harrods didn’t send their highly paid staff to stand behind the counter in Poundland, ‘cos it was all so unfair – if you went to a top school like Colet Court or St Paul’s School you ended up as Chancellor of the Exchequer or leader of the Liberal Party automatically and this was just an unfair advantage in life – only I couldn’t, because it just isn’t true.
You can go to Colet Court or St Paul’s School – and end up as Editor of the University Paper, or in the left luggage cupboard at Panorama, a left wing firebrand, part of the Labour fringe determined to expose those Tory toffs with all the advantages in life – just like Meirion Jones – who went to Colet Court and St. Paul’s and didn’t become Chancellor of the Exchequer.
But then he did get to meet Mark Williams-Thomas, who is busy ‘passing information to Operation Whateverthelatestnameis’ on the child abuse that took place at Colet Court and St Pauls’….
Stop! Stop! For pity’s sake Stop!
My head is reeling – how many of these people know each other?
Coming soon – Williams-Thomas reports on D-notice issued in respect of Meirion’s latest oeuvre on German submarine seen heading up the Thames in the direction of Duncroft piloted by Andrea Davison, carrying Shrimpton to safety with ISIS. Emily Thornberry resigns after accidentally tweeting picture of Pistorius carrying luggage holding Clegg bound and gagged and padlocked….
It’s got to the point where you can’t write anything without one of these nutters popping up in the story.
Edited by Anna to add: It seems that Michael is not a QC – though was a judge….I have now established that by following several more links including one where he was hired by the venerable Lord Christopher Monckton – who is the only Lord that the House of Lord’s have ever had to post on their web site a public note asking him to desist from describing himself as ‘sitting in the House of Lords’ after he appeared on an Australian TV show denying he was Sacha Cohen…
Are you sure you’ve got all that? Yes? I can climb out of this rabbit hole now? Personally, I’d sentence the whole lot of them to run the ‘Not Child Abuse Tribunal’.
Good. Now enjoy Lord Monckton attempting to prove that he’s not Sacha Cohen either…..
To view the original article + comments at source CLICK HERE
Ex-judge: ‘Secret service framed me over child porn’
A former judge claims secret service agents planted child porn on his computer memory stick in a plot to discredit him.
Michael Shrimpton, an outspoken critic of foreign affairs who advised Chilean dictator General Pinochet, said officers switched the memory stick, which also contained a book he was writing on German intelligence practices,
An appeal against his conviction heard his home in Jusons Glebe, Wendover was searched in April 2012 after he contacted the Ministry of Defence to warn them about an attempt he had uncovered to detonate a dirty nuclear bomb at the Olympics.
However, police instead arrested Mr Shrimpton and found a number of memory sticks which were bagged and labelled by officers.
Only one, which was found in a green glasses case next to Mr Shrimpton’s bed, was found to have contained deleted files, 40 of which were found by police specialists to be indecent images of young boys.
Mr Shrimpton, a barrister and former immigration judge who once advised Pinochet during his fight against extradition from Britain in the nineties, was sentenced to a three year supervision order, a five year Sexual Offences Prevention Order and was told to sign the Sex Offenders Register for possessing indecent images.
Representing himself, the 57 year old told the hearing at Aylesbury Crown Court sitting at Amersham that he believes intelligence services engaged a tactical interception system called G12, to monitor the search on his home and tamper with the items recovered.
He also claimed that he can prove his credentials as an intelligence specialist using a certificate gained when he was flown out to the USS Enterprise Navy aircraft carrier in 2006, and said that address books at his home contained direct numbers for world intelligence agencies.
Prosecuting, Richard Barton told Judge Karen Holt that he did not dispute that Mr Shrimpton had been aboard the USS Enterprise, but did not accept that it was as an intelligence specialist.
He also accepted that Mr Shrimpton’s own laptop computer was not the one used to download the indecent images onto the memory stick.
In court Mr Shrimpton said that he believed police did not have authority to take the laptop or memory stick, because his home is also used as his chambers for law work and could have contained legally sensitive information.
Speaking to the Bucks Herald outside court Mr Shrimpton said that he was ‘not worried’ about the case, and dismissed it as an effort to discredit him for being outspoken about key political issues as an intelligence specialist.
He said: “With every respect to the CPS and TVP this prosecution, based on an allegation of possession of a memory stick which has neither my fingerprints nor DNA on it, is a farce.
“TVP also admit my fingerprints are not on the laptop they have, which, absurdly, they claim is the one they unlawfully seized from my new home in April 2012.
“I wrote my new book Spyhunter on the original laptop. Spyhunter is a 330,000 word intelligence text, the writing of which involved at least a million keystrokes, i.e. the prosecution are alleging that a laptop which I touched at least a million times is mine even though there is not single fingerprint of mine on it, nor any of my DNA.”
The former chairman of Watermead Parish Council has been outspoken on issues including the search for Madeleine McCann, the 911 attacks, the war in Iraq, and international government involvement in the sinking of the Titanic.
Most recently he spoke out claiming that Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 was shot down by a Chinese missile.
A barrister called a government minister to claim that a nuclear bomb was poised to blow up the Queen in a terrorist attack at the Olympics a court heard this week. …
The jury was read statements from seven interviews with Shrimpton in which he claimed his intelligence credentials included helping to capture Osama Bin Laden. …
A barrister told a former Defence Minister a bomb stolen from a sunken Russian submarine had been smuggled into the country and could be used to blow up the opening ceremony of the London 2012 Olympics and assassinate the Queen, a court heard today (Monday). …
UKIP in Rotheram was not just a political Failure but clearly a moral Failure of some magnitude!!
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Hi,
this blog is pleased to announce that quite deliberately it declined to become embroilled in the UKIP publicity stunt and exploitation of the seeming Social Services gaffe of one individual as presented as we were not aware of adequate facts and felt there was a rather unpleasant stench of opportunism and exploitation of vulnerable children.
It starts to look as if we were right!
My instincts were set on edge originally, long before this unfortunate behaviour, by the UKIP candidate in Rotheram – a political prostitute being touted from constituency to constituency without the mandate of even the party it seemed as they were selected due to their relationship to an existing UKIP MEP Godfrey Bloom, a drunken libertine oaff who had bought his way into position via another louche lush!
One need only consider the dishonest publicity photos used in Rotheram of the candidate:
When here we have the truth:
OR:
Those few who have some track record and integrity in UKIP will remember what happened to Janet Girsman when she pulled the same stung and will remember her being hounded by Idris Francis and others and removed from the NEC as she refused to do as she was told to suit Farage.
I appreciate the situation is very different as I’m sure Jane Collins will do EXACTLY as she is told, to ensure she is chosen as one of Farage’s placement on HIS list of MEP candidates as the party is now a centralised authoritarian organisation with little pretence of democracy and zero understanding of the Libertarian principles (or lack of) which it espouses.
It does rather seem, as more and more detail comes out, that my ‘gut instinct’ to avoid the exploitation or even criticism of that exploitation was sound!
To be fair it was an excellent publicity stunt of Farage’s party to climb on the band wagon, as is their most common tactic as they have no strategy or vision of their own, though uncomfortable with the stunt at the time, as I was, I can only view the misrepresentation and exploitation with contempt and clearly the public were just as unimpressed as shown by the very poor turnout and the fact that UKIP did so badly – only managing to scoop up 21% of the protest vote that did turnout leaving Labour, whose MP had been sacked for theft, with twice as many votes still!
Clearly the public saw through UKIP’s rather sordid campaign – though UKIP did hand the media a wonderful stick with which to beat the government, all be it a stick of no merit as they attacked Rotheram’s Labour Council when it was the poor handling of a difficult situation by Social Services that were clearly to blame and not the council.
The #Rotherham #UKIP Case – Will Nigel Farage and Michael Gove now apologise?
When the story broke that three children had been moved from a foster family in Rotherham, reportedly for being members of UKIP, I went out and talked to social workers, solicitors and care leavers. Consistently I got a response that the reported account was implausible, and there was almost certainly a more complex story to it. I put up a blog post saying so, and got a barrage of responses, much of them abusive.
Now a more complete picture is coming out about the affair. And – surprise, surprise – it was more complex than that. The details emerging are not of politically-crusading social workers with a grudge against UKIP, but of a difficult court case, dealing with distressing circumstances, with social services trying to comply with court rulings and fend off legal counter-arguments from the birth family.
This was not a case that should have been played out in the public domain like this. These are incredibly vulnerable children and their privacy has been invaded in an atrocious manner. I’m not going to repeat the details here (though people can just go to the Guardian for that) but the distressing nature of their abuse gives a clear reason why such matters should be kept confidential. Not because social services have anything to hide, but to safeguard the wellbeing of the children.
A badly-handled interview with Joyce Thacker, Rotherham’s director of children’s services, didn’t help. Though with hindsight this is likely to be partly due to being caught on the hop on a Saturday morning, and also partly due to trying to be careful about what she said about a complex case. It may have been better for the council to have simply put out a “no comment” rather than trying to rush out an interview at the weekend.
Quite possibly the foster carers may well now have some difficult questions to answer about the way they went to the media and ignited a political firestorm. But politicians also have some questions to answer about the way they conducted themselves in this case. Nigel Farage practically turned the whole thing into a party political broadcast for UKIP. Then there’s Michael Gove, the minister responsible for children’s services. He called it “indefensible” though in fact it turned out to be totally defensible. He also called it “the wrong decision in the wrong way for the wrong reasons”. Did he even know the way or the reasons when he said that? Was he even interested, or was he simply putting the Rotherham by-election before his ministerial responsibilities?
Ed Miliband emerges only marginally better in that, unlike Gove and Farage, he admitted he didn’t know the facts of the case and limited himself to calling for an investigation.
If politicians were cynical and opportunistic, some in the media were even worse. For example, the inexplicably-respected blogger Guido Fawkes ran an absolutely barking mad article. “Rotherham’s UKIP Child-Catcher Joyce Thacker Follows Common Purpose Progressive Agenda.” He leapt on a set of conspiracy theories, straight from David Icke territory, that accuse a rather dull training company called Common Purpose of trying to rewire our society along a “Marxist and Fabian” agenda. He concluded.
Thacker is yet another graduate of the Common Purpose organisation which pursues a“we know best” Fabian-style progressive agenda in the public sector. She was a project advisor for a pilot programme, run by Common Purpose, that was concerned with diversity issues in the West Yorkshire area. Something tells Guido she has an axe to grind in this and is not a neutral public servant…
Something tells me that Guido had better hope Ms Thacker doesn’t find herself a decent no-win-no-fee libel lawyer.
Nothing good has come out of this affair. Vulnerable children have had their privacy invaded. Hardworking and honest public servants have been grossly slandered. And why? For short-term political gain in a by-election. The likes of Nigel Farage, Michael Gove and Guido Fawkes need to apologise for their shameful behaviour in this ridiculous and unpleasant case.
To read The Guardian article alluded to CLICK HERE
The defence of Common Purpose in the article above shows just what damage is done by self serving individuals like David Icke or Brian Gerrish or TPUC and its fellow travelers when they seek notoriety by mounting half baked attacks on such organisations as Common Purpose making it a danger to expose the true nature of that particularly vile organisation for fear of being branded yet another fool from the self serving underbelly of life, the nutters like Icke, Gerrish and their ilk.
The service done for Common Purpose by the me, me, me style of half baked attack mounted by the nutters has been almost as notable as the service they have provided for paedophiles by desperately promoting the unfortunate ‘Stories’ surrounding Hollie Greig that are so clearly without foundation, without admissible evidence, without witness, without corroboration, without medical provenance and without much more than vitriol and a chance to beleaguer and berate a sector of the establishment who in default of ANYONE providing evidence of any value, merely false conjecture, has been unable to prove the negative and certainly unable in several enquiries to show any sign of truth in the claims the child was EVER sexually abused!
The questionable aspect of the Rotheram foster case, for lack of a better name, that was completely overlooked in their glee at a bandwagon to jump on for UKIP and a stick to beat the innocent with is clearly the EU law that obliges Britain to fund the care of any child dumped on us by any of the underclass of the vile EU of whom there are clearly yet more than even here.
UKIP as a party which ‘Claims’ to be opposed to membership of The EU despite their exploitation of it for the self enrichment of a small clique in UKIP aided by a claque of cowards and ne’er do wells seeking advancement amongst the crumbs that fall from the EU Troughs on the EU Gravy Train to fund the bribes to keep the wheels of this repugnant scam in motion – Where was the effort by UKIP to show the entire debacle was a product of EU law that the LibLabCon signed up to and UKIP does so much to profit from!
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Gerard Batten is a laughing stock who consistently due to his position as a UKIP MEP associated with the racist, anti homosexual, anti Jewish, anti Islamist organisations he espouses brings UKIP into disrepute!!
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Hi,
frankly I can not disagree with the comments below made on a UKIP controlled public forum!
I posted this in the Roger Hayes thread in British Police State:
Gerard Batten is a complete @rse. He has been fed the BCG drivel and swallowed it hook line and sinker. This is why nobody should vote for UKIP. I can honestly say, without fear of a writ from Gerard Batten, that he is the stupidest politician of the year. The speech was wrong. Batten knows nothing of the English legal system, which given the time he has been a MEP is quite disturbing. This pathetic speech will be used, rightfully so, by UKIP’s enemies to demonstrate what a bunch of utter fools UKIP has as MEPs.
Gerard Batten, for the avoidance of doubt, I state as fact and truth, that you are a second rate politician, a fool for all to see and that you are unfit to represent even the minutest percentage of the British people. You have brought the Eurosceptic cause into disrepute by your crass stupidity, I’d be surprised if Marine le Pen would want to sit in the same group as an utter numpty like you.
There is not a scintilla of libel in that quote. If Batten, a fool, were to issue a writ for libel, which I dearly hope he does, I would have him for costs. Gerard Batten you a fool – FACT. Sue me.
I posted this in the Roger Hayes thread in British Police State:
There is not a scintilla of libel in that quote. If Batten, a fool, were to issue a writ for libel, which I dearly hope he does, I would have him for costs. Gerard Batten you a fool – FACT. Sue me.
There is little to add on the issue other than point out that for a ludicrously highly paid MEP with little or no understanding of ethics, morality, integrity, common sense, law or justice to act in such an ill informed way is staggering.
However this is not a first for the racist, hypocrite Gerard Batten who has lied and brought UKIP into disrepuete by trying to prevent me telling the truth about him.
Gerard Batten was indubitably guilty of abuse of his elected office imn wastimng police time trying to imply, under the corrupt Human Rights Laws to which these United Kingdoms are committed by virtue of their malign and damaging membership of The EU and its utterly undemocratic Lisbon Treaty.
Gerard Batten went so far as to try to clame I had intimidated him and his wife by pointing out that it was my opinion that his racist attacks on Islam may well have more to do with his wife, who is a Filipino by birth, may well be a devotee of Cardinal Sin style Catholocism and that his posturing and many of his extremist and distasteful views may have more to do with his relationship with her than the interests of these United Kingdoms or his constituents – whom he is honour bound to represent NOT hypocritically attack based upon their chosen superstitions and beliefs within the law!
This grubby little low life has as I have shown over many postings is a traitor to the values and principles of these United Kingdoms and has some particulary vile criminal associates. He would also seem to have abused his position, not just to waste police time, by nepotistically paying large amounts of money to family members under a cloak of ‘expenses’.
A measure of the man is his association with the criminal Gregory Lauder-Frost who was sent to prison for having defrauded the health organisation for whom he worked of a considerable amount of money, and also the odious and thoroughly dishonest Mick McGough.
It is also of note that Gerard Batten has been at the heart of UKIP for many years and has never noticeably spoken out in condemnation of its undeniable corruption nor spoken of the many £Millions which would seem to have been trousered by its leadership team of which he is clearly a part.
I believe that Paul Wesson (sheltering behind his pseudonym Aardvark) makes undeniable statements of fact in his posting quoted above and I believe that the BCG abreviation stands for the deeply disturbed charlatan and scoundrel Brian Gerrish. For I doubt Paul Wesson was making comment on tuberculosis as in ‘Bacille Calmette–Guérin’, BCG!
The unfortunate and deeply challenged Brian Gerrish has tried to make issue of many cases in his attempts to besmirch established issues and organisations in Britain – not least of which would seem to be his obsession with his discredited interests in child abuse and interests in the idiotic posturings of the likes of the French Polisher and sometime Special Constable Albert Burgess, discredited criminals Robert Green and Roger Hayes.
Sadly such gems of actual information unearthed by Gerrish are ensured derision due to his constant espousal of unfounded and misinterpreted conspiracy theories, such that he must by now be a board member of The Tin Foil Hat Fellowship!
Frankly as it seems Gerard Batten has no understanding of intelligent honourable behaviour, ethics or duty it is long overdue that UKIP demanded his resignation but as there is not a single solitary individual amongst UKIP’s leadership team of principle or gravitas, in my opinion, it may well prove hard for any of them to hang onto their lucrtative scam once the rotten apples are removed from the barrel!
Regards,
Greg_L-W.
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Paul Wesson has made further very valid comment on Batten’s stupidity:
I can’t understand a UKIP MEP getting involved with BCG. He clearly took the BCG press release at face value without checking with the police, the local council or the courts system. The fact that Batten thinks there is a lawful argument for withholding council tax shows how stupid he is. There is no lawful argument for such behaviour. If there were the charlatan and conman Roger Hayes would not be in prison as he would have a defence. Hayes has been ‘withholding’ his tax for some considerable time. A warrant had to be issued to bring him before the court. He is one of a very small number of people who refuse to pay council tax (withholding is his word for not paying towards the society he lives in) and who go to prison. The legal process to get to this stage has already passed through lawful demands for council tax, through threats of legal action, through an initial hearing, through judgement against Hayes, through enforcement, through a garnish order and through bailiffs.
If Hayes and his stupid cronies (yes, BCG, I think you are all stupid) are the legal experts they claim to be they would have won this case at the first hearing. They have the same rights of appeal as everyone else. Hayes could have appealed all decisions against him and could have taken his case, on a point of law, to the Supreme Court. If he was right he would have won. Despite the idiotic comments of BCG members, when they’re allowed out of the wards, the fact is that the judges in the Supreme Court would have listened to all of their arguments and those of the other side. They would have weighed up both cases and made an honest judgement. The judgement would have been delivered in open court as well as in writing. Hayes and BCG know their arguments would have been demolished and their stupidity would have left them with a costs bill of hundreds of thousands of pounds. That’s why this process hasn’t been appealed – not because BCG and Hayes know they are right, but because they know they are wrong. Once a Supreme Court judgement on a national matter like taxation is published it binds all UK courts in perpetuity. The judgement would have analysed Hayes’ arguments, discussed them based on common law precedents and statutes and demolished them.
That is the real fear – the paper tiger would be exposed. Nobody would be able to write the rubbish that Hayes writes without other people citing the case as proof that they’re wrong. All of the arguments of Hayes, Harris, Gerrish, Burgess, Barnby, Mote, Scarth, Green et al might have been potted in one fell swoop. That would benefit the whole Eurosceptic movement as Common Purpose, Hollie Greig, freemen, treason and all of the other leitmotifs of the lunatic fringe could be consigned to the dustbin of legal history.
Sadly, that hasn’t happened and the fool Batten has nailed his reputation to the mast of a sinking pirate ship. If Farage doesn’t withdraw the UKIP whip today this speech of Batten’s will haunt UKIP at election time. If I were the other parties I would be distributing it far and wide and demanding my activists understand what a fool Batten has been. This speech will be a great relief to David Cameron as it will save him hundreds of thousands of wavering voters. Nails and coffins and UKIP spring to mind.
Remember that a UKIP MEP has publicly attacked, on the record in the EU Parliament, Wirral DC, Merseyside Police and the courts system. BCG has less than one member per constituency. UKIP has won 500 votes here – all from people who don’t vote for the traditional parties in any event. UKIP has lost the votes of local government workers, police and court staff nationwide. If I was a local government worker collecting council tax I would feel that Batten’s speech had undermined my lawful efforts to enforce the rules. If I was the arresting police I would feel that Gerard Batten, at a time of massive cuts, had kicked me in the guts. If I was a magistrate I would wonder why Batten referred to my court as secret, when it clearly is not. The fact that Batten is so stupid, along with BCG, that he doesn’t understand how our local government, police and courts work is no excuse.
Gerard Batten, you are a fool. Hang your head in shame.
Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W)
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who many have of course seen through!
But then again I have consistently cautioned ‘The higher up the tree the monkey climbs the more you see its @rse’
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