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There Always Seems To Be A Sordid Episode In Ukip

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 05/04/2015

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There Always Seems To Be A Sordid Episode which is bubbling under ar being covered up In Ukip, be that the open claims of sexual excesses of the leader, MEP’s consorting with prostitutes in public places, sexual abuse of their children in the bath, assault, rape or the like.

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Hi,
I appreciate that this is not a new article but merely an exemplar of the behaviour of Ukip which was and is all too common, bringing these United Kingdoms into disrepute.That such events occur amongst the supporters of other Parties is neither mitigation nor valid as again and again in Ukip those who sre responsible are elected memberts, staff and and amongst the leadership and its direct aspirants, and Ukip is a relatively small party.

Time and again we hear of such events in Ukip and of mistresses and salaried staff who seem incapable of not abusing those who end up beneath them by use of their positions of authority.

This seems a norm in Ukip where as it is clearly an exception in the main two parties, who clearly have better judgement and more adept disciplinary standards.

‘Spiked drink’ and the night Ukip’s party turned sour

The party faithful at Ukip’s gala dinner were in buoyant mood. Hours earlier, Nigel Farage had delivered a galvanising leader’s speech at the party’s 2012 conference.

'Spiked drink’ and the night Ukip’s party turned sour
The party faithful at Ukip’s gala dinner were in buoyant mood Photo: Reuters
 

The dinner afterwards at the Crowne Plaza hotel in Birmingham offered the leadership and rank and file the opportunity to have a drink, relax and mingle.

The meal was a largely jolly affair, accompanied as it was by a fundraising auction that – this being Ukip – included such desirable items as tea bags in a fancy box and a woven silk portrait of the Queen.

“This was a gathering that featured little of the bombast and none of the slickness of the larger parties’ shindigs,” reported one commentator at the time.

The Crowne Plaza hotel in Birmingham (Alamy)

Yet 10 months on, the repercussions of that night’s events are still being felt.

A female activist has claimed that, amid the frivolity of the evening, she had been subjected to a “brutal assault” by a senior figure in Young Independence, Ukip’s youth wing. She said her drink had been spiked and her dress “ripped down”. She had been spat on, called a “whore”, then photographed in a state of undress to ensure her silence.

The claims finally became public two weeks ago when The Telegraph’s Mandrake column reported some of the details, leaving Ukip open to possible criticism of effectively covering up a crime by not calling in the police.

Last week, Ukip responded by passing to this newspaper a dossier detailing the claims and counter-claims for what happened that night and in the weeks and months following.

What is not contested is that the alleged incident followed the gala dinner on Friday Sept 21, presided over by Mr Farage and the party’s chairman, Steve Crowther. The alleged victim had been placed at a prominent table by Lisa Duffy, Ukip’s party director.

Lisa Duffy

The events that followed are murkier and disputed. At the heart of the case is the woman’s claim – made 12 days after the conference ended – that she had been subjected to a violent assault after her drink had been spiked.

She made the allegations in a number of emails to Miss Duffy and, as a result, the party opened an internal investigation conducted by Michael Greaves, one of its most senior officials. Mr Greaves is Ukip’s general secretary, but also a lawyer with experience at the International Criminal Court.

Last week he released to The Sunday Telegraph a report he had compiled on the case, based on the alleged victim’s emails, an interview with one of the alleged attackers and eyewitness accounts. He did not interview the woman either face-to-face or by telephone.

Mr Greaves has also written a separate, longer account for Mr Farage and Ukip officials.

Steve Crowther

In the version handed to this newspaper, he concluded that the “matter had no legs whatsoever”. After interviewing or taking statements from, among others, Mr Farage’s wife, Kirsten, Mr Greaves felt that the alleged victim’s story contained contradictions that did not stand up to wider scrutiny.

He said that she had been drinking so heavily “she must have been close to causing herself ill-health” and that the day after the attack she “is seen to be in perfectly good nick”, casting doubt on her memory of events and her claim to have been traumatised.

Mr Greaves’s report outlines events from the beginning of the evening of the gala dinner. By then, according to the Ukip account, the alleged victim had already caused a stir.

Mrs Farage had witnessed the woman “coming on strongly” to her husband. The woman, who according to witnesses was “very drunk”, is alleged to have invited Mr Farage back to her room before she was escorted from the party leader’s presence. Mr Farage had “politely declined” her offer.

With dinner over, many of the activists went on to a party hosted by Paul Staines, better known as Guido Fawkes, the political blogger. The woman went too.

Michael Greaves

Mr Greaves wrote in his report: “C [the alleged victim] was again seen by KF [Kirsten Farage] who saw that she was still very very drunk. KF indicates that she continued to drink prodigiously, perhaps 10 further glasses of wine.”

He added: “It is after this period of alcohol consumption that C claims that she was assaulted by having her dress ripped, that she was spat upon and was photographed. One of those involved with her called her a whore.”

The next day, according to the Ukip account, the woman appeared to have made a remarkable recovery. Mrs Farage and Miss Duffy both gave evidence that she was “chatting, laughing and smoking” outside the conference venue and did not look “particularly traumatised”.

Four days later, on Wednesday Sept 26, the woman wrote to Miss Duffy thanking her for seating her at the table, saying: “I am really impressed with the direction that Ukip is taking.”

Eight days on, her tone had changed. In a second email to Miss Duffy, she laid out what she then recalled had happened to her.

“Two of your Young Independence members physically assaulted me quite brutally outside the Crowne Plaza in Birmingham on the gala night,” she wrote.

“I also realise that one of my drinks was spiked and the effects of this lasted two days, including loss of vision which was terrifying and loss of memory which unfortunately for me returned this week. I’ve been really traumatised by this and am not wishing to take things further due to threats being made against me.”

Two days later on Oct 6, the woman wrote again: “I’m still very traumatised… One young guy took me outside, ripped down my dress while another took photographs, spat on me and called me a whore. All I remember is someone saying it was set up.”

She complained of feeling “numb to everything around me” as a result of the spiked drink, and suffered from heavy nosebleeds.

She added: “One young man needs slinging out of the party and reporting to the police. I haven’t done the latter since I didn’t want a scandal for everyone who works so hard in Ukip or a scandal for my family.”

On Oct 18, she wrote again to Miss Duffy: “I am afraid that what I have been through is a very serious matter and I will need to get the police involved. I’m currently seeing a solicitor about the actions of [X] and two others who were also involved in what is an assault.”

It was at this point that Ukip’s leadership, with the knowledge of Mr Farage, asked Mr Greaves to investigate.

“It is not at any stage in this matter for Ukip to report matters to the police,” wrote Mr Greaves in his analysis for The Telegraph.

He drove from Brussels to the UK to interview the alleged attacker – referred to throughout the dossier as X to protect his identity. During the interview, X denied the attack and also gave an alibi.

Mr Greaves concluded after the interview that X was “on the balance of probabilities” telling the truth.

He wrote: “Apart from what I believe to be an untruth about his taking medication, which may be explicable on the basis that someone wanting advancement in Ukip might well decide to conceal a medical condition which seriously affects mood and temperament, the writer [Mr Greaves] had no basis whatsoever to conclude anything other than that X was telling the truth or, at the least, may be telling the truth on the balance of probabilities.”

Following the interview with X, Mr Greaves decided no disciplinary action could be taken against him and wrote a report for party officials and for Mr Farage outlining why.

In his account to this newspaper, he wrote: “At this stage the complaint is, on any view, in a sorry state. C has given accounts which as to material matters are inconsistent with one another, certainly to the eye of a skilled criminal cross-examiner.”

He pointed to a series of inconsistencies, including the email on Sept 26 which made no mention of an assault. The email, he explained, “fatally undermines her later assertions of having been assaulted and having had he [sic] drink spiked”.

Mr Greaves also pointed to discrepancies between her account and statements from Miss Duffy and Mrs Farage among others, not least the alleged victim’s claim that she had suffered nose bleeds and loss of vision, adding: “The evidence of KF and LD entirely contradicts this.”

On Nov 9, Mr Greaves also wrote to the woman, inviting her to make a formal complaint to Ukip, but advising her that if she wished to do so “it is inevitable that other people will have to be involved in the affair”.

In his account, he added: “One might properly and reasonably conclude that any solicitor advising her would give her advice that once she makes a complaint of this kind it would inevitably find its way into the public domain, even before the advent of the egregious era of so-called ‘social media’.”

The woman, who had been to see a lawyer, wrote back promptly saying that she did not wish to lodge a formal complaint with Ukip. But she also wrote on Nov 12 that she had been “blackmailed into keeping quiet and that photographs taken outside the hotel would be used against her”. In the letter, the alleged victim also said for the first time that a woman had “set up the attack”.

Mr Greaves saw this as further proof of her constantly changing story. He also concluded that the attack was not a serious one. “The only complaint made had been one of assault by battery, to the extent of the ripping of a dress (to an unknown extent) and spitting. On any view, it is unlikely that that would attract more than a conditional discharge from the magistrates,” he wrote.

He also pointed out that there was no “sexual aspect” to the case except for the woman’s approach to Mr Farage earlier in the evening when she invited him to room.

Mr Greaves informed Mr Farage of his findings and at that point closed the file on the case.

Ukip’s leadership believed that was the end of the matter, but details began to leak out. In March, the alleged victim posted some of her allegations on a social networking site. “Too many witnesses to what happened. Some have evidence,” she wrote in one message, followed by: “Starting to write a short book about the attack. Finding it incredibly painful but will shame those involved. Someone spat in my face too.”

A few days later she added: “If you’ve been drink spiked go to the police, get evidence.”

Later she wrote: “I don’t know which was worse: waking up the next am and not being able to see properly or blood running down my face and not remembering a thing.”

She has never gone to the police and the West Midlands force has no record of any allegation of assault.

The woman still stands by her story, while Ukip disputes it. The truth is that what actually happened at Ukip’s conference that night in September may never be fully known.

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There seems to be an inordinate number of such instances associated with Ukip & Ukip Yooof over the years. Talk of these irresponsible and self indulgent individuals occurs all too often, though as with this instance there seems to be a tendency to manage to ensure it is hushed up, it is allegedly achieved by blackmail and bullying, as was the case in this instance, it seems.

Wonderful just how much silence one can buy with photographs and threats to publish them on the internet I gather!

Alternatively the simple threat that their EU Building pass can be revoked, if they speak out, silences many when groped, abused or raped; as to complain would thus lose them their job – particularly with young attractive Latvians, Lithuanians and the like, ex Communist block, lobbyists and staff.

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GP-PN: 100 Reasons Not To Vote For Ukip

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/02/2015

GP-PN: 100 Reasons Not To Vote For Ukip
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Guest Post – Peter North:
Fisks Ukip’s banal list of 100 policies, published as a forerunner to their Manifesto launch, subsequent to the apparent firing of Nigel Farage’s selected El Supremo Tim Aker MEP!

It gives 100 Reasons Not To Vote For Ukip in May

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Hi,when Ukip published their banal list of 100 items as a guide to their delayed Manifesto I had intended to fisk it but time overtook me and it seems pointless now, with less than 100 days to go to election day.

An even better excuse for not doing the job is that amongst other examples Peter has fisked each item more than adequately and in a manner with which I agree.

Thanks Peter ;-))

100 reasons to ignore Ukip

Back in May, and many times since, I have remarked that “Ukip has nothing of any great substance, and even though we are promised a manifesto, I expect it will be the same rag-bag of parish suggestions box entries picked out of a tombola with no unifying theme. And as if on cue, we get 100 reasons to vote Ukip in the absence of actual policies. Mystic North strikes again! I’m not going to rubbish all of them since some of these random scattergun statements are desirable outcomes or policy instruments, but without context, they mean nothing. Let’s have a look at them shall we?

1. Get Britain out of the European Union

On this we are agreed. But this isn’t a policy. This is an ambition. As we have discovered, it ain’t simple, it ain’t quick and it will need an alternative. There are no magic wands and if you think it’s a simple process, you simply don’t understand what the EU is. Here I remind readers that Ukip does not have a Brexit policy.   

2. Get control of immigration with an Australian-style, points-based immigration system

State bureaucrats second guessing the human resources needs of UK plc. What could possibly go wrong? Never mind that quota based systems can result in a net increase in immigration and that there is no evidence it could work for Britain since we are an entirely unique nation with entirely different geography. Ukip has failed to explain why their idea, plucked out of the air, would work, when successive administrations have failed in light of the complexities, costs and international treaty obligations. And in any case, we already have a points based system – and have since 2008. 

3. £3bn more, annually, into our NHS which desperately needs it

From where exactly? And who says the NHS actually needs it? Could it just be that the pressure could be taken off the NHS by fixing the GP system and adult social care? Maybe, we don’t know, because Ukip hasn’t done any thinking on this. This link is where a Ukip policy should be looking.

4. Scrap tuition fees for students studying Science, Tech, Engineering, Maths, or Medical degrees

Sounds good in principle. But who is going to pay? Are we looking at tax funded university or are we looking at tax breaks for industry to finance them? Is it tied in with a broader industrial strategy? If so, what would that look like? And what about the creative arts? Multimedia technology might sound like a non-degree, but the games industry is not one we can afford to ignore.   

5. Pay greater attention to elderly care across the country

Is this a policy or a sneeze?

6. Cutting £9bn from our foreign aid budget

And what then do we fund overseas projects with, some of which are essential to slowing and managing immigration. It has been clear throughout that Ukip doesn’t understand what aid is or what it is even for

7. Give the people the ability to “recall” their MPs, without parliamentary or MP approval

This is one of Dougie Carswell’s ideas which failed to pass while he was a Tory and given the state of voter engagement there is actually very little evidence this would be used often, if at all. It’s easy to fill a online petition with a few thousand signatures, but less easy to do it in a constituency. This really shows us just how shallow Ukip and Carswell are. We do have a big problem with our democratic deficit. It will require a range of integrated measures to tackle and this is just tinkering around the edges with bits of parliamentary procedure. Democratic reform ought to be a central pillar of a supposedly anti-establishment party – but it curiously is not. 

8. Stopping our endless, foreign wars

You mean the ones that recently ended? How about a democratic mechanism to stop us getting sucked into them? No?

9. Promoting a British identity, as opposed to failed multiculturalism

How? And what does this achieve? And what is a British identity? How are you defining it?

10. Allowing existing schools to become grammar schools

And what do we do with the schools that don’t?

11. Ending PFI privatisation of the NHS, proliferated by Labour and the Tories

Ok, so we’re ripping up contracts now. What do we replace it with? In some places, it works.

12. Ensuring our armed services are properly equipped for when we do need them

Every government and every party has said that. What matters is the detail. As we outline here, that’s not so easy. 

13. Establishing a Veteran’s Administration to look after those who looked after us

Like the well funded and competent SAAFA?

14. Encouraging inward investment with growth markets, not JUST the failing Eurozone

How? This is a sentiment, not a policy.

15. Overcoming the unfairness of MPs from devolved nations voting on English laws

How? Got a policy?

16. Cutting bureaucracy, red tape, and wasteful spending from government departments

Which bureaucracy, which red tape, what wasteful spending? Easy to say, harder to do.

17. Cutting the same bureaucracy that hinders small businesses and entrepreneurs

What like?
 
18. Supporting our farmers with a Single Farm Payment Scheme

How would that differ from the one which already exists and is presently in use?

19. Ending the burdensome “green levies” that have added £000s to our energy bills

My energy bill doesn’t exceed £1000. And some of those green levies go toward better insulation which means we don’t have to build a new power station. So which “green levies” are we talking about?

20. Scrapping the poorly planned HS2 project, saving up to £50bn

How is NOT spending money a saving?  As in, I’ve decided not to buy a £250,000 Rolls Royce, so I’ve “saved” £250,000 … ? But do what instead to ease pressure on existing transport infrastructure?

21. Opposing tolls on public roads – we’ve already paid for them

Oppose who? Presumably, you’d be in government, so who would you oppose? Who is suggesting road tolls? Why is a digital tolling scheme necessarily worse than the road tax scheme we presently have? Variable peak prices could reduce congestion.

22. Supporting bus passes for pensioners with the support of local authorities

This already happens. Presumably Ukip wants to expand that. How is that paid for?

23. Foreign vehicles to require Britdisc passes to contribute to our roads they use

Won’t that make imported goods more expensive?

24. Ending the use of speed cameras as revenue raisers – they should be a deterrent

They are. Most of them are now switched off because they cost too much to run and administrate. The rest of them serve as part of active traffic management systems. This might have been a popular policy in 1992, but this is not 1992.  

25. Protecting our green belt

What with? A home defence force? Or are we talking abut planning? If so, what is Ukip’s planning policy and how does it propose to solve the housing shortage and affordability gap? Y’need a policy!

26. A central list of brownfield sites for developers

Like the one that already exists? And why should it be central? I thought Ukip favoured localism?

27. Houses on brownfield sites to be Stamp Duty exempt on first sale

There’s usually a good reason why brownfield sites remain inactive. Often ground contamination from previous use. It will take a lot more than stamp duty exemption. It will require a complete overhaul of the environmental impact assessment laws.

28. VAT relaxed for redevelopment of brownfield sites

See above. – and new build is already VAT exempt. Not forgetting that VAT is an EU tax and so we would be perfectly at liberty to abolish VAT if we wanted to.

29. Local referenda for large-scale development, if triggered by 5% of electorate

I am all in favour of more direct democracy, but this seems divorced from any context. It ought to be a part of a broader package of democratic reforms, but it’s just hanging there, apropos of nothing. Where’s the policy?

30. Introducing the ability for citizens to initiate national referenda

This is the closest Ukip gets to a big idea. But there needs to be safeguards against minority interest self-selection and mob rule. Referendums are not necessarily always an expression of public will. We will need to see details from Ukip. Which have not been forthcoming on this, or anything else.

31. Withdrawing from the European Court of Human Rights

And replace with what? Human rights are good. Fair trials and free speech and such.

32. Reversing the government’s opt-in to the European Arrest Warrant

What’s the point if Ukip wants to scrap the EAW?

33. Negotiating bi-lateral agreements to replace EAW

Easier said than done, I find.

34. No votes for prisoners

So we deprive them of liberty of as a punishment, but deprive them of a voice? I guess this is a matter of personal taste.

35. Full prison sentences should be served, parole on case-by-case basis

That is actually a logical inversion. What is the point of case-by-case parole if full prison sentences are to be served?

36. Replacing the Human Rights Act with a British Bill of Rights

And what would be on that bill of rights? Who would write it?

37. Official documents to be published primarily in English

Like they are now? 

38. Cracking down on honour killings, female genital mutilation, and forced marriages

I wasn’t aware the police were going easy on honour killings. They tend to be quick off the mark on murder. Does Ukip have evidence to the contrary? If so, that’s a very serious allegation and ought to be a central campaign issue. As to forced marriages, that is largely something an aspect of immigration with Asians returning to their place of origin to get married. What is Ukip’s immigration policy, beyond vague aspirations that is? 

39. Reviewing the BBC license fee with a view to reducing it

To what? Why is Ukip different fro the Tories on this?

40. Taking non-payment of the license fee out of the criminal sphere

You mean make it a civil debt so people then end up with a CCJ and unable to borrow, and have bailiffs banging at their door instead? Doesn’t sound like progress to me. Have another think. 

41. Amend the smoking ban to promote choice for ventilated smoking rooms

Oh honestly, who cares anymore? Any pub that was going under because of the smoking ban has done already. Pubs are nicer without smoker. I say that as a smoker. It’s not a big deal. 

42. Opposing plain packs for cigarettes, which has had no impact where trialled

Well, it took to number 42 before we got to any hint of sense, but it’s hardly earth shattering.

43. Promoting the employment of young, British workers

How? That’s a vague ambition, not a policy.

44. Repealing the Agency Workers Directive

And replace it with what? This is an interesting one. One must first examine why the directive exists. It is a regulatory response to a long standing problem of rolling six month contracts, largely as a product of previous labour market interventions. AWD is merely another hammer-blow in a game of regulatory whack-a-mole. Ukip clearly doesn’t recognise this otherwise it would have offered a more substantial policy that gets to the root of the issue.

45. Encouraging councils to provide more free parking on High Streets

I’ll let Jackart in his inimitable style address this one. It’s a stupid policy by stupid people who aren’t interested in policy. And it will take more than that to revive the high street.Does Ukip have a policy on that?

46. Simplifying planning regulations for long-term empty commercial properties

Why not just devolve planning policy to councils? You’re all about localism, aren’t you?

47. Extending the right of appeal for micro businesses against Revenue and Customs

In what circumstances? Apropos of what?

48. Negotiating bespoke trade agreements with EU member states and worldwide

Erm, see the thing about the EU is we can’t negotiate with individual EU member states. The EU doesn’t work like that. That’s why eurosecptics want to leave it! That’s where it would help to have a Brexit policy! But Ukipists told us they didn’t need one! Doh! Here we have an anti-EU party that doesn’t EVEN know how the EU works. What are we paying Ukip MEPs for?

49. Reoccupying our seat at the World Trade Organisation

Well that’s kinda implied by way of leaving the EU. That’s why eurosceptics want to leave.What do we do when we get there?

50. Abolishing inheritance tax

Fine fair enough. But that’s £4bn you’ll have to cut when you just said you’ll spend 3bn extra on the NHS.

51. Introducing a 35p income tax rate between £42,285 and £55,000 – taking many public sector workers out of top rate of tax

Is this costed? That’s going to mean some major cuts. What are you cutting? The foreign aid budget can only be spent once over.

52. Setting up a Treasury Commission to make sure big corporations pay their way in taxes

Here is some pretty typical Ukip ignorance. Many of these corporations are not based in the UK. They use freedom of capital rules to evade taxes. This is an international problem that requires an international solution, not least as part of a Brexit policy. Ukip doesn’t have one.  

53. Abolishing the Dept of Energy and Climate Change and rolling retained functions into DEFRA

So we’d then have a mega-ministry that looks after power stations and cattle and rivers. Why? Where is the logic?

54. Introducing an Apprenticeship Qualification for students who don’t want to do non-core GCSEs

What does Ukip think core GCSEs are? And how will an apprentice fare without them?

55. Scrapping the arbitrary 50% target for university attendance

This is one of Tony Blair’s most damaging policies. That’s why the Tories got rid of it almost immediately. Which tells us this entire list of “policies” is a cut and paste from obsolete material. Did Ukip even read their 100 reasons before publishing them?

56. Students from the EU to pay the same as International Students

Who said they don’t? And isn’t itimplied that by leaving the EU, all students would be categorised as international students?

57. Introducing more power for parents: OFSTED to investigate schools on petition signed by 25% of parents or governors

Governors can already demand an inspection.Parents only need petition governors.

58. Guaranteeing a job in the police, prison, or border forces for anyone who has served 12 years in the Armed Forces

So if you’ve done 12 years in the logistic corps, you get to be a policeman? No thanks.

59. Priority social housing for ex-service men and women, and those returning from service

They already get a very generous resettlement grant and tuition fee subsidy.

60. Veterans to receives Veteran’s Card to ensure they’re supported in event of mental health care and more

In the event of mental health care? The biggest problem is veterans not seeking help. That is why they end up homeless.You need a comprehensive veteran care policy. Where is it?

61. All entitlements to be extended to servicemen and women recruited from overseas

Stupid and mega stupid.  The whole point of separate arrangements is to encourage serving officers to return to their nation of origin, with a service pension as a means of international development. There are clear developmental advantages to remittances, but a retired officer class is an export of an administrative class that can help build good governance – and is a means of exporting our values. This is precisely what the Gurkhas were for, and extending entitlements to all means we now have to allow them residence along their families as well. Not very sensible for a party that wants to control immigration.

62. Establishing a National Service Medal for all those who have served

So if you’ve done 12 years in the catering corps, you get a medal?This cheapens the very idea of medals. They are given out for distinguished service. What is the point of this policy?

63. Encouraging local authorities to buy out their PFI contracts where affordable

Paid for with what? You’re massively cutting income tax, remember?

64. Ensuring GP’s surgeries are open at least one evening per week where demand permits

That’s one of the few things I’m not inclined to argue with. But there are contractual problems that means the GP service requires a complete redesign. Where is Ukip’s policy? Why does Ukip assume it can succeed in reforming it? Ukips health spokesperson, Louise Bours, admits “Honestly, I have no experience in health whatsoever”.

65. Ensuring migrants have NHS-approved health insurance until they have paid into the system for 5 years

So the NHS will need a whole new bureaucracy to approve all international health insurance products and a recovery department to chase international debts. This presumably means more delays and checks at ports. I don’t think they’ve thought this through.

66. Ending hospital car parking charges

Will likely result in less parking availability. It usually does.

67. Replacing bureaucratic watchdogs with locally elected health boards for more transparency

Can anybody honestly say that elected police commissioners have improved policing? Given the turnout at the recent PCC election in South Yorkshire, it is clear there is little public support for what are essentially overpaid press officers. Elections do not automatically equate with greater accountability or democracy.

68. Stopping the sale of patient data to big business

So Ukip opposes the sale of data from which extrapolations can be made which could improve drugs and patient care. They neglect to say why. There is a need to safeguard privacy, but we don’t want to miss out on the possible benefits of big data insights. You can complain about the shoddy way the government set about it with automatic opt-ins but let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water.

69. Ensuring a high standard of English speakers in the NHS

Who says they don’t, apart from bigoted Ukipists?

70. Amend working time rules to give trainee doctors, surgeons, and medics better environments

Amend to what? Got a policy?

71. Encouraging and protecting whistle-blowing to get to the bottom of poor performance

This is not an unfair thing to say, but poor service delivery is a recurrent theme in British news with the same systemic common defects. Our corporate scale councils and local services are losing touch, are unaccountable and out of control. It will take more than whistle blowers to fix it. You’d need a comprehensive policy based on a detailed and evidence driven analysis. Something Ukip lacks the talent and mental architecture for.

72. Ensuring migrants have jobs and accommodation before they can come to the UK

Not unreasonable. But how will this be enforced? And what will it cost to enforce it? Got a policy?

73. Migrants will only be eligible for residency after 10 years’ working here

Migrants or asylum seekers? If migrants, what is the rationale for keeping them in limbo? Either they qualify for citizenship or they don’t. Does Ukip even know the difference?

74. Reinstating the primary purpose rule, bringing an end to sham marriage migration

The primary purpose rule barred entry into the UK for thousands of people married to British citizens. It was dropped. The then Home Secretary, Jack Straw, said it was being ended because “it is arbitrary, unfair and ineffective and has penalised genuine cases, divided families and unnecessarily increased the administrative burden on the immigration system.” He was right then, and he’s right now.

75. No amnesty for illegal immigrants, or those gaining UK passports via fraud

Amnesties are generally a bad thing. They encourage people to try their luck and disappear into the woodwork until there is one. But we do need a policy to deal specifically with illegal immigrants. Thus far, Ukip doesn’t have one.

76. Protecting genuine refugees by returning to the UN Convention of Refugees principles

The UN Convention is the problem, creating asylum seekers who cannot be returned or ejected. I thought Ukip didn’t want that? We need either to renegotiate the Convention or withdraw from it. You’d need a detailed policy.

77. British companies to be prioritised to deliver foreign aid contracts

I’d rather companies delivering best value for money were prioritised. I want value for money and transparency.

78. Repealing the Climate Change Act 2008 which costs the economy £18n per year

No arguments there. But a cut of £18bn doesn’t pay for all Ukip’s ring-fences and extra spending.  

79. Scrapping the Large Combustion Plant directive and redevelop UK power stations

We would do that by way of leaving the EU. It is an EU directive. This actually makes little difference since we have already closed, or have started to wind down LCPD affected plant which was due for renewal anyway. It’s ancient. Does Ukip even have an up to date energy policy? 

80. Supporting the development of UK Shale Gas with proper safeguards

Rather a bland statement. As it happens, shale isn’t the big deal anybody thought it was for the UK, not least with oil prices now collapsing. There is something new on the horizon that we have heard nothing about from Ukip.

81. No new taxpayer subsidy for wind farms

What about addressing the old ones?

82. Leaving the Common Agricultural Policy

This is actually a consequence of leaving the EU. CAP is part of the EU. And what do we do instead? The EU will continue to subsidise food producers, so to compete, we will have to subsidise ours. You have already said you would keep the Single Farm Payment, but what is the rest of the CAP replaced with? You’d need a Brexit policy. 

83. Allowing parliament to vote on GM foods

It can already do that. If it so chooses.

84. Reinstating British territorial waters

That is implied by leaving the EU. But what about management of those waters where British fleets have sold their quotas to foreign trawlers? You’d need a Brexit policy. And a fisheries management policy for that matter.

85. Food to be labelled with country of origin, method of production, method of slaughter and more

Like it does already? The problem is not labeling, but an epidemic of food fraud. You’d need international co-operation to deal with it, thus a comprehensive policy on trade.

86. Ban live animal exports for slaughter

Why? Is this just one of those feel-good populist policies?

87. Scrapping the Bedroom Tax

The “bedroom tax” is as much about reintegrating people from remote for industrial communities into the economy rather than warehousing them on benefits. It could use a little tweaking to make it fairer to the disabled, but it is a useful tool in the box to tack embedded and long term welfare dependency. It might be popular to say you’ll scrap it, but you also have to state what you would do instead. 

88. Child benefit only for children permanently resident in the UK

Not unreasonable.

89. Future child benefit to be limited to first two children only

I wouldn’t argue with that, but it would be just one measure in a full programme of welfare reform. That would require a policy. Where is it?

90. Ensuring an initial presumption of 50-50 parenting on child custody matters

The childrens’ welfare is paramount. The presumption is that the birth mother is best suited – and usually is. But this is why we have a family court system. That needs an overhaul. So where is Ukip’s policy?

91. Safeguarding visitation rights for grandparents

So the state is overriding parents judgement now?

92. Supporting a streamlined welfare system and a benefit cap

Like the Tories do already? What is Ukip’s welfare policy?

93. Enrolling unemployed benefits claimants into workfare or community schemes

Like the Tories do already? What would Ukip do differently?

94. Placing revenues from shale gas into a Sovereign Wealth Fund to ensure future growth and security

How much will this generate? There isn’t a big UK dash for shale gas. 

95. Emphasising the immediate need to utilise forgotten British infrastructure like Manston Airport

Why is there an immediate need if it has been forgotten? And it certainly doesn’t look like Manson has been forgotten if you Google it. What on earth does this even mean?

96. No cuts to frontline policing

That ship has already sailed. The police have already been cut, but numbers is not the problem. It’s policing policy. Does Ukip have a police policy?

97. Prioritising social housing for those whose parents and grandparents were born locally

So basically immigrants will be excluded from social housing?

98. Reaffirming British laws, rather than allowing dual-track legal systems for minorities in the UK

Will this mean abolishing Beth Din for Jews, or does this just apply to Muslims?

99. Promoting patriotism and the importance of British values in our schools

What are those British values? How will you promote them? Got a policy? 

100. Rebalancing Britain’s economy

To what? What does that even mean?

Conclusion:

Last time I gave Ukip a good fisking I concluded as thus:

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. This is a party that has no great vision. What we see above is ill thought out guesswork by Ukip, a patchwork with no unifying thread of thought, gaping holes, no applied expertise, no detail, no philosophy and not even a systematic approach to policy making. It is wholly superficial stuff, tinkering with the status quo on the basis of populist sentiment, which is no way to govern a country.

No doubt the Ukipist reaction to this post will be to say that the other party manifestos are equally amateurish and stupid. This is probably true. Were I so inclined I could have a field day driving a horse and cart through a Labor manifesto – and as for the Lib Dems, such would be beyond reasonable analysis and beyond satire. But the crucial distinction is this: Ukip professes to be something different. It isn’t.

Party politics has degenerated into two bald men fighting over a comb, each chasing a marginal constituency of floating voters based on what carries over well in the media. So what if anything in the above makes Ukip distinctive apart from a vaguely defined ambition to leave the EU?

One thing that has plagued politics since 1997 is the steady stream of soundbite announcements dressed up as policy, keeping the churnalists and twitterers fed – and rather than pushing a vision, politics is all done on premise of “fly the flag and see who salutes”.  Enter Ukip doing exactly the same with no real agenda for change, no real idea of what they want – and not the first idea how to get it done.

You don’t have to be a policy analyst to see that no real thought has gone into Ukip’s policy making. This is back of fag packet stuff. We’re a matter of months from a general election and Ukip don’t know what they stand for – but expect us to believe they are an alternative. We can only assume that Ukip takes us for fools too. 

The only thing I would add is that we were since promised that Ukip would get its act together and wunderkind Tim Aker would deliver the goods. If this is all Ukip has to offer, a mere 100 days from the election, then it becomes clearer that Aker was sacked after all. And rightly so. And since Suzanne Evans is responsible for releasing this garbage as current campaign material, she should resign.

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Amjad Bashir’s Defection Today’s Ukip Catastrophe

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now to add to Tim Aker walking out as their manifesto maestro just a few short weeks prior to its launch, leaving them in an insoluable disarray – assuming they wish to present a manifesto that isn’t amateur drivel now they have yet another problem. It does seem that Ukip are determined to deliver fantastic results with around a catastrophe a day!:
Let us not forget that Nigel Farage personally selected Amjad Bashir and paraded him as Ukip’s token high profile non Caucasian Muslim, in efforts to try to make it appear Ukip was not a racist party despite the clear facts that show they are. You will note from The Sunday Times that Matthew Richardson Ukip’s party secretary has stated ‘Ukip is proud to represent the many bigots who live in the UK’. Meanwhile the vile racist Gerard Batten a founder member of Ukip and a long term Ukip MEP is making much of his personal superstitions and seeking to demean Muslims in a manner likely to incite racial hatred based on their beliefs! Nigel Farage and Ukip have been well aware that their token Muslim Amjad Bashir’s restaurunt in Manchester had been raided in relation to employment of illegal immigrants, surely even Ukip could not have been so stupid they did not read the press! Yet Ukip took absolutely no action of cautious distancing or denouncing the problems and Nigel Farage went so far as to say that ‘We will be defending the charges’ (has he shares in the reastaurant or was he recruiting immigrants for Bashir? Otherwise why did he say ‘We’? Now all of a sudden, having continued to parade Bashir in the most racist manner possible, ie as some sort of token, it is announced AFTYER Amjad Bashir had a meeting with David Cameron and defected to the Tories – Ukip spokesmen are falling over themselves and likely to drown in their own sour grapes as they seek to denounce him and claim to be presenting evidence to the police! Perhaps the British public would be better served were Ukip to denounce the vile behaviour of Annabelle Fuller, one of Nigel Farage’s mistresses as announced in the EUropean Parliament and call for Police charges for her having stolen a Blackberry Phone device, a House of Commons pass and private/confidential correspondence from Tory MP Andrew Bridgen and seemingly making dishonest claims of being sexually assaulted, which resulted in Bridgen being diviorced and distanced from his children despite Annabelle Fuller realising her claims were unsupportable and implausible. FULLER, Annabelle 07 However Ukip’s behaviour is clearly all too similar to the worst excesses of self interest we have come to expect from the low grade political aspirant we find in office these days. UKIP ARCHIVE SKELETON 01 Consider the reports below from the media:

UKIP MEP Amjad Bashir suspended over ‘serious’ financial issues

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A UKIP MEP who was poised to defect to the Conservatives has been suspended over financial and employment concerns.

Party leader Nigel Farage said there were “extremely serious” questions which Amjad Bashir had not answered.

The allegations against him include claims of interference with the candidate selection process, according to the party.

Mr Bashir rejected the claims as “absurd and made-up allegations”.

A UKIP spokesman said evidence obtained by the party in the course of its own investigations had been forwarded to the police.

The spokesman said: “The UK Independence Party has a zero-tolerance policy and takes the matters at hand extremely seriously.

“The allegations against Mr Bashir are of a grave nature and we will be forwarding our evidence obtained so far to the police.”

In a statement on its website, UKIP disclosed one of the reasons Mr Bashir has been suspended was his “continued affiliation” with Mujeeb Bhutto, who was involved in a Pakistani kidnapping gang.

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One of the UK Independence Party’s most senior politicians has defected to the Conservatives in a major blow to Nigel Farage’s general election campaign.
Amjad Bashir, a Ukip MEP and the party’s leading Asian figure, told The Telegraph that Ukip had become a “party of ruthless self-interest” that was incapable of delivering a referendum on membership of the European Union.
In a damning broadside against his former colleagues, he described Ukip as “pretty amateur” and condemned its “ridiculous” lack of policies. He said the party was “delusional” about its chances of winning seats in May.
On Saturday night Ukip suspended Mr Bashir for alleged financial and employment irregularities.
A Ukip spokesman said evidence obtained by the party in its investigations would be sent to the police.

But Mr Bashir described the move as a “desperate attempt” by Ukip to limit the damage of his defection.

He said: “On Friday I met David Cameron and applied to join the Conservative Party. It is clear Ukip’s action today is a desperate attempt to spoil this and is without any foundation.

“The issues raised in my notice of suspension are historic and well known to the party. Indeed, on one of them, Nigel Farage has publicly defended me over it.”

A Ukip source said the party had learned that Mr Bashir was defecting at midday on Saturday. Ukip issued a notice to Mr Bashir suspending him at about 5pm.

Mr Bashir, a Muslim and Ukip’s chief spokesman on communities, said he had decided to defect because only the Conservatives were in a position to control immigration and give voters a say over whether the UK should remain in Europe.

His departure will hurt Mr Farage, who had been planning to energise his election campaign with a round of set-piece media appearances today. Instead, the Ukip leader is now having to deal with the loss of his most prominent figure from an ethnic minority background.

David Cameron said he was “absolutely delighted” to welcome Mr Bashir into the Tory fold and urged voters who have supported Ukip to “come back” to the Conservatives at the general election.

The Prime Minister said that Mr Bashir’s move proved the election was not a “beauty contest” but a straight choice between a competent Conservative government and the “chaos” of Labour under Ed Miliband.

His defection represents a coup for the Tories as the general election campaign enters its final 100 days this week.

Mr Bashir had been one of Ukip’s leading lights even before he was elected to the European Parliament last May as MEP for Yorkshire and the Humber. He had been described as Mr Farage’s “secret weapon”.

As a Pakistani immigrant, he was regularly deployed by spin doctors as evidence that Ukip is not racist, after a succession of activists and candidates made derogatory comments about Muslims and ethnic minorities.

Mr Bashir’s defection will ignite the contest between the Conservatives and Ukip for the votes of Eurosceptics on the Right. It will be particularly welcome for the Tories, after they lost two MPs — Mark Reckless and Douglas Carswell — to Ukip last year.

In an article for The Telegraph, Mr Bashir says: “After almost three years as a party member, I realise that Ukip is more concerned with furthering its own interests as a political party than delivering for the British people.

“I’ve seen Ukip both at home, and abroad, and I’m sorry to say they’re pretty amateur. In the European Parliament, some of their MEPs think it’s acceptable to shout and fool around.”

He adds: “They think they’ll sweep up dozens of seats in May, but that’s delusional. What they are in very real danger of doing, however, is making a big enough dent in the Conservative vote to let Labour in.”

Mr Cameron told The Telegraph during a meeting with Mr Bashir that he understood why voters had supported Ukip in the past, when the Coalition had taken some unpopular decisions.

“I understand why some people have drifted away to Ukip,” Mr Cameron said. “I want to genuinely win those people back by saying look, we are the only party that can offer the strong immigration control this country needs; we are the only party that can deliver that referendum that the British people deserve.

“And crucially, this general election is not a by-election, it’s not a beauty contest, it is not a chance to send a message or make a statement, it is about choosing a government of the United Kingdom.”

Mr Cameron said: “I’m absolutely delighted that Amjad has decided to leave Ukip and join the Conservative Party. His story is inspiring. It’s another sign that in this great country of ours you can come to Britain without very much and you can be a member of the European Parliament, an MP, sit in the Cabinet.”

Meanwhile, Mr Cameron said broadcasters’ new format of two television election debates with seven parties followed by one with just himself and Mr Miliband showed “I was right to say you needed all the minor parties involved”.

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Surprise Surprise More Splits On Ukip Policies

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Nigel Farage suggests private insurance should fund the NHS but his health spokeswoman says UKIP supports state funding.

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Divisions at the top of UKIP have started to emerge after Nigel Farage and his health spokeswoman disagreed over the need for private health insurance to fund the NHS.

The UKIP leader said in an interview that the state-funded health service would in future need to be replaced with a private insurance model.

However, hours later he was slapped down by his own health spokeswoman Louise Bours who said Mr Farage was “entitled to his opinion” but the party had discussed and “rejected” the idea.

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Nigel Farage says an insurance-funded NHS model must be debated

Mr Farage had said private health insurance would be a “debate” to be returned to as the health service struggles to cope with an ageing population.

In a video from 2012, which emerged last year, Mr Farage set out his ideas for health funding, saying: “I think we are going to have to move to an insurance-based system of healthcare.

 
 

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“Frankly, I would feel more comfortable that my money would return value if I was able to do that through the market place of an insurance company than just us trustingly giving £100 billion a year to central government and expecting them to organise the healthcare service from cradle to grave for us.”

In the interview for Radio 4’s Can Democracy Work? today, Mr Farage added: “There is no question that healthcare provision is going to have to be very much greater in 10 years than it is today, with an ageing population, and we’re going to have to find ways to do it.”

He has also said no foreigners should be allowed into the UK unless they can prove they have private health insurance to pay for medical expenses.

NHS funding has become a key battleground ahead of the General Election with the Tories, Labour and the Lib Dems all pledging increases in state funding.

In parts of the country Labour has seen UKIP make inroads into its support and a move to privatising the NHS would likely prove a vote loser.

Shadow health secretary Andy Burnham said a vote for UKIP was a “vote for the privatisation of the NHS”.

He added: “UKIP claim to stand up for working people, but in reality they are more Tory than the Tories. Farage will never be able to distance himself from his real views. He should be honest with the public.”

Ms Bours told the Huffington Post: “What people have to realise about UKIP is that we are much more democratic than other parties.

“Nigel is entitled to his opinion and others are entitled to theirs, we don’t whip people into all thinking the same thing, like the establishment parties. As he has said before, he raised the idea for discussion a while ago, the party discussed at and rejected it.

“I am certain that if the party discuss it again, we will reject it again. The vast majority of UKIP members, the British public and I will always favour a state-funded NHS.”

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It is hard to work out what Ukip policy is as they seem to have become obsessed with immigration and anti Islamic rhetoric wich to most of us is just a thinly disguised form of racism.The xenophobic aspect is largely pandering to the failed in society who find themselves squeezed out of jobs by harder working and more determined EU immigrants from some of the old Communist block, who actually know what poverty really is and are determined to be gainfully employed at any cost.

Even when Ukip’s Manifesto is presented by The Glorious Leader of the cult one can not be sure it will turn out to be other than drivel, even with a glowing forward written for him and signed off by him!

Diane James one of Ukip’s more presentable MEPs has of couirse been in some form a consultant to and lobbyist in the field of the NHS and would surely have made a far more plausible health spokesman for the party than Paul Nuttall’s protege the ill mannered and mouthy Louise Bours (Dutch I presume!), who would seem to be on a mission to damage Nigel Farage so that her ‘chum’ would be better placed in any leadership bid!

That the tax payer’s pockets are not bottomless would seem to have dawned on some in Ukip and that they have failed to credibly cost any of their various woolly policies means that inevitably such high cost projects as the NHS are going to require an entirely different management structure and control on spending – obviously a nationally controlled insurance type scheme is well worthy of debate and only a moron would believe that thwe NHS can continue forward into the future without much greater control.

That Ms. Bours makes the grossly inaccurate statement that:

“I am certain that if the party discuss it again, we will reject it again. The vast majority of UKIP members, the British public and I will always favour a state-funded NHS.”
The NHS is not nor should it ever be considered to be ‘State Funded’ a notion introduced by the idiotic champagne Socialist after the appointment by Clem Atlee in 1945 of Aneurin Bevan and his extreme Communist wife Jenny Lee. A concept that Labour were determined to stamp as their imprimatur when they set out to destroy The Beveridge Plan they had undertaken to implement and support whichever party won the election.That Aneurin Bevan is described by socialists as the architect of the NHS is pure twaddle, it was he who was charged to build it in accord with Lord Beveridge’s Report, yet he could not help himself and tampered with the basic tennets leading to the polityicising of the service in just the way Ms. Bours has misunderstood it.

This is so typical of Ukip with their low grade appointees and Nigel Farage’s selection for preferment – they lack the gravitas and intellect for the task as is so manifest in the lack of achievement of Ukip, beyond duping the ignorant as a protest vote in EU elections!

How long is it since yuou last heard anyone in Ukip put forward a coherent, consistent and plausible case to Leave_The_EU now that they have jumped on the immigrant band wagon – so 22 years and still no responsible, viable EU eXit & survival strategy just endless bad publicity for their lack of coherent policy, overt and clandestine racism and their odious associates as they pander to the lowest common denominator in a race for the gutter and populism.

Perhaps we will find out just how scraped the barrel is and how the outfall of the ferrets fighting in the Ukip sack has mapped out as we note the various rumours regarding Tim Aker’s having quit as policy supremo within a month of the launch of Ukip’s Manifesto which in what can only be an emergency it has been announced that Suzanne Evans has been tasked with producing the document for Farage – which may well lead to increasing his insecurity and internal rivalry, as he will be tasked with the forward and signing of the document whatever drivel it contains, as he did in 2010 only to denounce his own document and seek to blame David Bannerman for the drivel!

I understand, from a normally unimpeachable source well connected in the upper levels of Ukip’s waring hierarchy – it would seem that Tim Aker’s associate and supporter Robert Ray is to apear in court shortly on drink driving charges subsequent to an event organised by or at least for Nigel Farage.
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This may well be the cause of Tim Aker’s fall from grace:

RAY, Robert Ukip Cllr ex NF 02Nigel Farage with Robert Ray.One of UKIP’s more notorious ‘fruitcake’ councillors has been charged with drink driving after a boozy fundraiser attended by Nigel Farage. Cllr Robert Ray — who leads the party’s growing group on Thurrock council — hit the headlines last September after it emerged he was a former official and candidate with the far-right National Front.

While his involvement with the party was in the 1970s, Cllr Ray has freely admitted that he stands by his election literature from the period.

EXCLUSIVE: Thurrock UKIP leader on drink drive chargeRobert Ray with Nigel Farage
Robert Ray with Nigel Farage

THE leader of the UKIP group on Thurrock Council has been charged with drink driving after a late night incident at a fundraising function attended by national party leader Nigel Farage and MEP Tim Aker.

Cllr Robert Ray was arrested in the early hours of last Friday morning after a dinner at the Orsett Hall Hotel.

A statement by Essex police said: “A man has been charged with drink driving after being arrested at Orsett. Robert Ray, 65, of Purfleet Road, Aveley, was stopped by officers at Orsett Hall at 2.15am on Friday, 13 June. He has been bailed and will appear at Basildon Magistrates’ Court on 1 July.

The event at Orsett Hall was a £55 a head fundraiser for UKIP organised by the Thurrock branch of UKIP, which is supporting Mr Aker in his quest to ‘double up’ as a Westminster MP after his success in the recent East of England European elections. He has been nominated as the party’s candidate for the Borough seat.

It is understood that Mr Farage and Mr Aker had left the function well before its close and that Mr Ray was leaving the scene himself in the early hours with his wife, and fellow councillor, Maggie O’Keefe-Ray.

Cllr O’Keefe-Ray, 62, was a recent winner in the local government elections for Thurrock Council, winning a seat to serve Aveley and Uplands, which her husband also represents.

Cllr O’Keefe-Ray, who suffers from a thyroid condition, blacked out, falling and cutting her head. Fellow party-goers alerted emergency services and when police arrived Mr Ray was arrested in charge of his car.
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Mrs O’Keefe-Ray  was taken to Basildon Hospital by ambulance where she was treated and later released.

“It was all very unfortunate and we are feeling very embarrassed,” Cllr Mrs O’Keefe told the Enquirer.

Date Published: June 19, 2014 Story by Newsdesk

My condollences to her husband and family, who I have never met, as it seems the final oputcome of the evening in question may well have been the tragic news in the following article:

UKIP councillor Maggie O’Keefe-Ray dies

By YourThurrock  |  Posted: September 25, 2014

Maggie O'Keefe Ray

Maggie O’Keefe Ray


UKIP councillor for Aveley and Uplands, Maggie O’Keefe-Ray has died.

The news was announced by UKIP on Thursday morning.

A spokesperson for UKIP said:

“UKIP Thurrock is sad to inform you that yesterday, 24th September 2014, Cllr Maggie O’Keeffe-Ray passed away.

 

She had been in Queen’s Hospital fighting a brain haemorrhage. Unfortunately the damage was too severe, that despite the best efforts of medical teams at Queen’s, nothing could be done. We would like to thank the teams at Queen’s for all the care and love they showed Maggie in her time there.

Our thoughts and prayers are with her husband Cllr Robert Ray and their family at this time.

Tributes have been paid to Maggie.

Tim Aker MEP, a close friend to Maggie and Robert said “Maggie lit up any room she was in. She had a smile and the time of day for anyone. We are all devastated and upset, but she will want us to soldier on. She will always be with us.”

 

Cllr Graham Snell, leader of the UKIP group on Thurrock council said “Maggie was the heart and soul of our branch. She was always ready with a big hug and a bigger smile.”

At this time, we request that the family are given privacy.

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Tim Aker is the latest victim of the internal UKIP power play: sacked as the party’s policy chief this morning. Or so the spin goes. Guido understands this is less to do with the time he spent on the manifesto and more to do with the continuing debate raging for the ideological life and soul of the party. Between being an MEP and duffing up Labour in Thurrock, it was only a matter of time before Aker stepped back from his party role, but only a fool would suggest he’s not still a serious player within the party.

Rumours also continue to swirl around the tetchy relationship between Nigel Farage and Douglas Carswell. Guido is told there has been something of a breakdown, with particular anger among UKIP top brass over Carswell’s recent off-message Mail on Sunday intervention describing his new party as “internationalist” and “inclusive”. Guido hears Farage believes that to be “Cameroon nonsense”. This piece written by Nick Wood, the former IDS spinner turned Farage-confident, has been circulated within party circles as the UKIP leader’s real opinion:

“Various BBC-type Aunt Sallies were erected only to be assailed by the heroic St Douglas. “We must stop insulting immigrants,” asserted the hair-shirted one. “Dislike of foreigners is not merely offensive, but absurd.” Various other Harmanesque pieties followed, including the laughable observation that there has never been anything splendid about isolation. How about May 1940 after the fall of Paris? Our “isolation” then proved the salvation of Western civilisation.”

Long-serving, more traditional, golf clubbing UKIP veterans are said to be “upset” by Carswell’s maverick modernising moves, and things are so bad that they sneeringly call him “that Tory” behind his back. Rumours of a split at the top are denied by Farage’s spokesman: “we all absolutely adore Douglas”. But when were they last seen together?

To which I respond, to add clarity, for those who may be a little out of touch with the Ukip ferrets as they continue their squabbling inside their sack – visibly tossing out dead ferrets and whilst consuming others to hide the evidence of how vicious the fight for control is!
Hi,

Ukip is neither big enough intellectually, nor has it adequate gravitas or vision, to contain the egos and ambitions of Nigel Farage, Reckwell & Carless (O’Flynn, Nuttall etc. etc.).

Ukip has been Nigel Farage’s private fiefdom ruled in an absolute and underhand manner for many years, more of a cult than a party, and for the party to grow and stand any chance of breaking through its own glass ceiling of populism; for some time the squabbling and fractures can be swept under the carpet, but will eventually lead to blood on the carpet from a knock down drag ’em out fight for control that will destroy the idea of being a political party of any consequence.

The waring factions have been hard at it since the days of Sked and clearly to date the Faragista cult has held the upper hand by ruthless centralisation and control that has seen 100s of good people leave CLICK HERE, which has greatly weakened the party concept to ensure Farage’s continued ascendancy, for more details read my blog and CLICK HERE.

The manner of the Carless/Reckwell departure will benight Ukip oncemore, but will it be before or after the election and will the investigation into Annabelle Fuller’s theft, under National Security, and her apparent lies about Andrew Bridgen expose the truth and involve Nigel Farage is a telling part of the equation!
For more details CLICK HERE

So far it would seem Farage has the upper hand, having forced Stuart Wheeler to break cover over his backing of Neil Hamilton and his support for Carswell as a new leader – seeking to befoul the party in the first instance and clear out the cult in the second!

The squabbling will continue and would seem to have cost Ukip the funding of both Stuart Wheeler and, to quote Farage’s nick name for him, The Yorkshire Dwarf!

This has led to the need to accept funding from various dubious sources as well documented, not least that of Richard Desmond who would seem to have converted his Express newspaper to being the in house comic for Ukip, where it was shown to be no more than a squalid rag by Patrick O’Flynn’s prostitution of the paper to satiate his ambitions as an MEP leading another of Ukip’s waring factions!

Hey ho – may you live in interesting times, but sadly this greatly destabilises British politics and makes the possibility of Leaving_The_EU in any foreseable time frame less likely due in the main to Ukip’s pursuit of personal glory for one cult or the other!

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Nigel Farage’s House Of Cards From The Inside

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you will have noted by now that The Times is featuring Ukip and sadly; based on information from their contacts, which has by-passed Ukip’s weak yet aggresive press office with its grossly over paid ineptitude; The Times has found its way to much of the truth.
The Times is doing to Ukip what it does to the two main parties which is calling them to account and exposing their inadequacies and internal squabbles, incompetencies and corruptions – Ukip is learning the truth of my oft made warning ‘the higher up the tree the monkey climbs the more you see its @rse’.
Naturally Ukip is likely to fall back on the lame excuses that were so often used by their associates in the BNP ‘they’re picking on us because we are being so effective and threatening the establishment’!
This is palpable rubbish, what is happening is Ukip is experiencing the true scrutiny briefly, which front line politics constantly experiences.
I believe this exposure will probably culminate in either a major revalation either on Saturday or Sunday and then it is just a matter of whether Ukip is considered of adequate consequence to be kept in the public eye, where scrutiny will continue, just as it is experienced by the Tories and Labour or they slide into the obscurity they have earned having peaked.
It seems likely that Ukip will have to fall back on the shoddy journalism and desperate scribblings of the milti millionaire publisher Richard Desmond who cut his publishing teeth in the trash end of the magazine trade with publications that pandered to gossip and populist light weight like OK and New!
He then moved into adult TV (a EUphemism for soft porn) with Television X and Red Hot TV – moving on to such inglorious titles as The Daily Star and The Express – the latter being Ukip’s comic of choice with its corrupt standards of journalism and unrelenting yet undeclared bias!
With The Express Ukip has found itself with a partnership in light weight publicity and low grade press to match its standards and its hugely over salaried and over blown press office.
To quote their ever intellectual EU Press Officer Herman Kelly’s recent erudity ‘when you sleep with dogs you wake with fleas’ unoriginal I know but a measure of the competence and style of Ukip’s bullying and corrupt press office – a team who can best be judged by the paucity of publicity Ukip recieves, or ever has received over the years, which is of consequence or gravitas in publications of repute and stature.
For now just consider the facts proffered by The Times, all be it hidden behind their paywall, sometyhing of a saving grace for Ukip as few of their followers will thus learn the truth!

Inside Nigel’s house of cards

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Times photographer, Jack Hill
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    Nigel Farage Times photographer, Jack Hill

Nigel Farage is trying to create a professional party from a ragtag group more accustomed to setting the world to rights over pints of real ale

As the sun rose over Clacton in the hours after Ukip secured its first elected MP, Nigel Farage predicted that his Eurosceptic party could hold the balance of power at the next election.

Before setting its sights on May, Ukip is grappling with a more mundane challenge.

Mr Farage is trying to create a professional party from a ragtag group of veteran members more accustomed to setting the world to rights over pints of real ale than the strict discipline of modern politics.

Last May, Ukip moved into a new Mayfair office, formerly the home of Boris Johnson’s mayoralty campaign team, after it was offered rent-free by Andrew Reid, a solicitor.

Three months later, amid concerns that staff were running amok, Lisa Duffy, Ukip’s director, was sent in to sort things out.

In a confidential report presented to Ukip’s governing committee, Ms Duffy wrote that she had gone to the offices on party business “only to be embarrassed about the lack of cleanliness, silliness and lack of organisation and lack of people in offices”.

Describing how she had spent the first few days setting the office up in a “professional manner”, Ms Duffy said she had moved desks and organised a holiday rota which “identified that the following week we would have had no press officers if I hadn’t actioned this”.

She also removed “unprofessional” material from walls and hand written signs.

A former office worker said these included a “c*** of the week” award which was given to “whichever journalist had been the most critical that week”.

A hand-drawn picture of Mr Farage surrounded by hearts was pinned on the wall, alongside an “I love egg mayonnaise sandwiches” sign posted by Alexandra Phillips, a press officer.

Ms Duffy’s intervention in Ukip’s London offices came a few days after another attempt to professionalise the party had ended in disaster.

Will Gilpin, a former RAF pilot, began work in the £72,000-a-year post of chief executive in December 2012 but was sacked in August 2013.

He wrote to one member of the executive: “I’m afraid I came to the role in the belief it was actually a chief executive they were after, rather than chairman’s assistant.”

“In response to me saying I’m unhappy with how things are going I have been sacked. It’s a shame I wasn’t able to bring in the much needed modernizations, but it’s up to the leadership of course.”

The national executive committee (NEC) also had disputes over another key appointment, leaked emails reveal.

In May last year, Tim Aker, a political campaigner and former researcher, was put forward for the £62,000 post of head of policy.

William Dartmouth, a Ukip MEP, wrote to members of the NEC complaining that Mr Aker was being offered as the sole candidate and that he had been “directly concerned and therefore partly responsible for the embarrassment of the 2010 Ukip general election manifesto”.

Mr Farage, who backed Mr Aker, has previously disowned the 2010 manifesto as “drivel” and claimed he had never read it.

Mr Dartmouth said the manifesto was “electorally toxic” and that Mr Aker’s involvement with it should be a “total disqualification”.

Andrew Moncreiff, a member of Ukip’s executive committee, wrotethat Mr Aker was “harmless enough but thoroughly lightweight and has done virtually nothing for the party”.

Mr Aker did not reply to a request for comment.

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Ukip Always Seems To Be In Some Sordid Episode

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Ukip Always Seems To Be involved In Some Sordid Episode which is bubbling under or being covered up, be that the open claims of sexual excesses of the leader, MEP’s consorting with prostitutes in public places, sexual abuse of their children in the bath, assault, rape or the like.

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Hi,

I appreciate that this is not a fully substantiated article but merely an exemplar of the behaviour of Ukip which was and is all too common, bringing these United Kingdoms into disrepute. howver be well aware that as a story it was considered sufficiently factually informative, by a major broadsheet, to pass its legal department!

That such events occur amongst the supporters of other Parties is neither mitigation nor valid as again and again in Ukip those who are responsible are elected members, staff and and amongst the leadership and its direct aspirants, and Ukip is a relatively small party.

Time and again we hear of such events in Ukip and of mistresses and salaried staff who seem incapable of not abusing those who end up beneath them by use of their positions of authority.

This seems a norm in Ukip where as it is clearly an exception in the main two parties, who clearly have better judgement and more adept disciplinary standards.

‘Spiked drink’ and the night Ukip’s party turned sour

The party faithful at Ukip’s gala dinner were in buoyant mood. Hours earlier, Nigel Farage had delivered a galvanising leader’s speech at the party’s 2012 conference.

'Spiked drink’ and the night Ukip’s party turned sour
The party faithful at Ukip’s gala dinner were in buoyant mood Photo: Reuters
 

The dinner afterwards at the Crowne Plaza hotel in Birmingham offered the leadership and rank and file the opportunity to have a drink, relax and mingle.

The meal was a largely jolly affair, accompanied as it was by a fundraising auction that – this being Ukip – included such desirable items as tea bags in a fancy box and a woven silk portrait of the Queen.

“This was a gathering that featured little of the bombast and none of the slickness of the larger parties’ shindigs,” reported one commentator at the time.

The Crowne Plaza hotel in Birmingham (Alamy)

Yet 10 months on, the repercussions of that night’s events are still being felt.

A female activist has claimed that, amid the frivolity of the evening, she had been subjected to a “brutal assault” by a senior figure in Young Independence, Ukip’s youth wing. She said her drink had been spiked and her dress “ripped down”. She had been spat on, called a “whore”, then photographed in a state of undress to ensure her silence.

The claims finally became public two weeks ago when The Telegraph’s Mandrake column reported some of the details, leaving Ukip open to possible criticism of effectively covering up a crime by not calling in the police.

Last week, Ukip responded by passing to this newspaper a dossier detailing the claims and counter-claims for what happened that night and in the weeks and months following.

What is not contested is that the alleged incident followed the gala dinner on Friday Sept 21, presided over by Mr Farage and the party’s chairman, Steve Crowther. The alleged victim had been placed at a prominent table by Lisa Duffy, Ukip’s party director.

Lisa Duffy

The events that followed are murkier and disputed. At the heart of the case is the woman’s claim – made 12 days after the conference ended – that she had been subjected to a violent assault after her drink had been spiked.

She made the allegations in a number of emails to Miss Duffy and, as a result, the party opened an internal investigation conducted by Michael Greaves, one of its most senior officials. Mr Greaves is Ukip’s general secretary, but also a lawyer with experience at the International Criminal Court.

Last week he released to The Sunday Telegraph a report he had compiled on the case, based on the alleged victim’s emails, an interview with one of the alleged attackers and eyewitness accounts. He did not interview the woman either face-to-face or by telephone.

Mr Greaves has also written a separate, longer account for Mr Farage and Ukip officials.

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In the version handed to this newspaper, he concluded that the “matter had no legs whatsoever”. After interviewing or taking statements from, among others, Mr Farage’s wife, Kirsten, Mr Greaves felt that the alleged victim’s story contained contradictions that did not stand up to wider scrutiny.

He said that she had been drinking so heavily “she must have been close to causing herself ill-health” and that the day after the attack she “is seen to be in perfectly good nick”, casting doubt on her memory of events and her claim to have been traumatised.

Mr Greaves’s report outlines events from the beginning of the evening of the gala dinner. By then, according to the Ukip account, the alleged victim had already caused a stir.

Mrs Farage had witnessed the woman “coming on strongly” to her husband. The woman, who according to witnesses was “very drunk”, is alleged to have invited Mr Farage back to her room before she was escorted from the party leader’s presence. Mr Farage had “politely declined” her offer.

With dinner over, many of the activists went on to a party hosted by Paul Staines, better known as Guido Fawkes, the political blogger. The woman went too.

Michael Greaves

Mr Greaves wrote in his report: “C [the alleged victim] was again seen by KF [Kirsten Farage] who saw that she was still very very drunk. KF indicates that she continued to drink prodigiously, perhaps 10 further glasses of wine.”

He added: “It is after this period of alcohol consumption that C claims that she was assaulted by having her dress ripped, that she was spat upon and was photographed. One of those involved with her called her a whore.”

The next day, according to the Ukip account, the woman appeared to have made a remarkable recovery. Mrs Farage and Miss Duffy both gave evidence that she was “chatting, laughing and smoking” outside the conference venue and did not look “particularly traumatised”.

Four days later, on Wednesday Sept 26, the woman wrote to Miss Duffy thanking her for seating her at the table, saying: “I am really impressed with the direction that Ukip is taking.”

Eight days on, her tone had changed. In a second email to Miss Duffy, she laid out what she then recalled had happened to her.

“Two of your Young Independence members physically assaulted me quite brutally outside the Crowne Plaza in Birmingham on the gala night,” she wrote.

“I also realise that one of my drinks was spiked and the effects of this lasted two days, including loss of vision which was terrifying and loss of memory which unfortunately for me returned this week. I’ve been really traumatised by this and am not wishing to take things further due to threats being made against me.”

Two days later on Oct 6, the woman wrote again: “I’m still very traumatised… One young guy took me outside, ripped down my dress while another took photographs, spat on me and called me a whore. All I remember is someone saying it was set up.”

She complained of feeling “numb to everything around me” as a result of the spiked drink, and suffered from heavy nosebleeds.

She added: “One young man needs slinging out of the party and reporting to the police. I haven’t done the latter since I didn’t want a scandal for everyone who works so hard in Ukip or a scandal for my family.”

On Oct 18, she wrote again to Miss Duffy: “I am afraid that what I have been through is a very serious matter and I will need to get the police involved. I’m currently seeing a solicitor about the actions of [X] and two others who were also involved in what is an assault.”

It was at this point that Ukip’s leadership, with the knowledge of Mr Farage, asked Mr Greaves to investigate.

“It is not at any stage in this matter for Ukip to report matters to the police,” wrote Mr Greaves in his analysis for The Telegraph.

He drove from Brussels to the UK to interview the alleged attacker – referred to throughout the dossier as X to protect his identity. During the interview, X denied the attack and also gave an alibi.

Mr Greaves concluded after the interview that X was “on the balance of probabilities” telling the truth.

He wrote: “Apart from what I believe to be an untruth about his taking medication, which may be explicable on the basis that someone wanting advancement in Ukip might well decide to conceal a medical condition which seriously affects mood and temperament, the writer [Mr Greaves] had no basis whatsoever to conclude anything other than that X was telling the truth or, at the least, may be telling the truth on the balance of probabilities.”

Following the interview with X, Mr Greaves decided no disciplinary action could be taken against him and wrote a report for party officials and for Mr Farage outlining why.

In his account to this newspaper, he wrote: “At this stage the complaint is, on any view, in a sorry state. C has given accounts which as to material matters are inconsistent with one another, certainly to the eye of a skilled criminal cross-examiner.”

He pointed to a series of inconsistencies, including the email on Sept 26 which made no mention of an assault. The email, he explained, “fatally undermines her later assertions of having been assaulted and having had he [sic] drink spiked”.

Mr Greaves also pointed to discrepancies between her account and statements from Miss Duffy and Mrs Farage among others, not least the alleged victim’s claim that she had suffered nose bleeds and loss of vision, adding: “The evidence of KF and LD entirely contradicts this.”

On Nov 9, Mr Greaves also wrote to the woman, inviting her to make a formal complaint to Ukip, but advising her that if she wished to do so “it is inevitable that other people will have to be involved in the affair”.

In his account, he added: “One might properly and reasonably conclude that any solicitor advising her would give her advice that once she makes a complaint of this kind it would inevitably find its way into the public domain, even before the advent of the egregious era of so-called ‘social media’.”

The woman, who had been to see a lawyer, wrote back promptly saying that she did not wish to lodge a formal complaint with Ukip. But she also wrote on Nov 12 that she had been “blackmailed into keeping quiet and that photographs taken outside the hotel would be used against her”. In the letter, the alleged victim also said for the first time that a woman had “set up the attack”.

Mr Greaves saw this as further proof of her constantly changing story. He also concluded that the attack was not a serious one. “The only complaint made had been one of assault by battery, to the extent of the ripping of a dress (to an unknown extent) and spitting. On any view, it is unlikely that that would attract more than a conditional discharge from the magistrates,” he wrote.

He also pointed out that there was no “sexual aspect” to the case except for the woman’s approach to Mr Farage earlier in the evening when she invited him to room.

Mr Greaves informed Mr Farage of his findings and at that point closed the file on the case.

Ukip’s leadership believed that was the end of the matter, but details began to leak out. In March, the alleged victim posted some of her allegations on a social networking site. “Too many witnesses to what happened. Some have evidence,” she wrote in one message, followed by: “Starting to write a short book about the attack. Finding it incredibly painful but will shame those involved. Someone spat in my face too.”

A few days later she added: “If you’ve been drink spiked go to the police, get evidence.”

Later she wrote: “I don’t know which was worse: waking up the next am and not being able to see properly or blood running down my face and not remembering a thing.”

She has never gone to the police and the West Midlands force has no record of any allegation of assault.

The woman still stands by her story, while Ukip disputes it. The truth is that what actually happened at Ukip’s conference that night in September may never be fully known.

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There seems to be an inordinate number of such instances associated with Ukip & Ukip Yooof over the years. Talk of these irresponsible and self indulgent individuals occurs all too often, though as with this instance there seems to be a tendency to manage to ensure it is hushed up, it is allegedly achieved by blackmail and bullying, as was the case in this instance, it seems.

Wonderful just how much silence one can buy with photographs and threats to publish them on the internet I gather!

Alternatively the simple threat that their EU Building pass can be revoked, if they speak out, silences many when groped, abused or raped; as to complain would thus lose them their job – particularly with young attractive Latvians, Lithuanians and the like, ex Communist block, lobbyists and staff.

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