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Archive for November 4th, 2013

A GUEST POST on UKIP Dishonesty & Hypocrisy

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/11/2013

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A GUEST POST on UKIP Dishonesty & Hypocrisy as they jump on any passing band wagon aware that as a minority cult in perpetual opposition they will never have to honour their claims!!

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European Union (Referendum) Bill comes up for review.

It was, I seem to recall, a Tuesday evening and I was sat at my
desk in the EP. Nikki Sinclaire was in the adjoining office.
Some time earlier we had been talking about the government’s
offer to debate matters in parliament if 100,000 citizens would
present a request by petition. There was no mechanism in
place at that time, nor did there appear to be any real hurry to
put one in place. Nikki had identified this as an opportunity to
call for a referendum on our country’s continued membership of
the EU.Nikki suggested some words, I put them down and sent them
through to her, she e-mailed me back some changes, I finished
it off. It didn’t look bad at all….“We the undersigned call for a binding national referendum to
decide whether Her Majesty’s Government should invoke
Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty to negociate the United
Kingdom’s withdrawal from the European Union….”The campaign was launched at a meeting in Torquay on
September 3rd 2010, and so we set out to find 100,000 signatures.There was uncertainty as to whether 10 Downing Street would
accept the petition. They accepted it, in fact they took in over
200,000 signatures.There was uncertainty as to whether the Commons Backbench
Business Committee would debate the matter. They debated it,
and we saw the biggest backbench revolt the government had
experienced up to that point.The idea of a referendum was voted down, but the matter
would not go away. Nikki’s polling proved that the people
wanted to have their say.This coming Friday, Nov 8th, we will see the Commons review
the European Union (Referendum) Bill.—————————————————————What impressed me was the level of cross-party support for the

petition. Only UKIP failed to support us. Indeed, a UKIP member
who had asked if he should support the petition kindly
forwarded to me a letter he had received from the UKIP leader’s
office. Here is a short extract: “Petitions, I may say, are useful
for publicising issues and recruiting activists; but, where such a
fundamental policy as rejecting the EU is concerned, there is no
prospect whatever of a pro-EU government’s acceding to a
petition.”However, once it became clear that we were winning the battle,
the referendum suddenly became UKIP’s ‘greatest achievement’.As recently as last month, a journalist in Strasbourg reported to
me that two UKIP MEPs had told him that they were opposed to a
referendum on this matter.————————————————————–Of course, this is not an isolated case. During the 2010 General

Election campaign, HS2 was the main issue on the doorstep.
This is a project that will have serious implications for West
Midlanders and indeed many people in the UK.UKIP’s manifesto for that election included the party’s desire to:
‘introduce three high-speed lines linking London to the Midlands,
northern England and Birmingham.’ That reads to me like an
approval of HS2!Now that opposition to HS2 has become a major dynamic,
guess what? UKIP is now ‘the only party that has consistently
opposed HS2?.There have been attempts to airbrush the 2010 manifesto out of
existence, but you can find all you need to know HERE.

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We are not alone in realising Farage’s UKIP is corrupted

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/11/2013

We are not alone in realising Farage’s UKIP is corrupted
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We are not alone in realising Farage’s UKIP is corrupted and unfit for purpose! The Party has become a controlled cult with a claque of deeply damaging anonimised trolls!

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Hi,
an interesting series of postings from the largely UKIP controlled BDForum, only undermined by the pucillanimous nature of the poster who is too unconvinced of his own views and research to put his name to them!
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    From winning their first ever 16 seats on Lincolnshire County Council in May, UKIP in Lincolnshire had to deal with racism allegations and suspensions, leading up to the party losing its official opposition status after six councillors split from the party in September. How did it get to this point? May 3, 2013: UKIP win their first 16 seats for councillors on Lincolnshire County Council in the local elections, as Conservatives lost overall control after winning just 36 seats and Labour won 12 seats. The turnout was just 29% county-wide. In Lincoln the turnout was even lower at 26%.

    May 9, 2013: Conservative County Council leader Martin Hill agrees on a coalition to maintain control with Liberal Democrats Reg Shore, John Marriot and Pat O’Connor, and Independents Chris Brewis, Bill Aron and Angela Newton.

    May 10, 2013: Chris Pain, UKIP’s East Midlands regional chairman and Wainfleet and Burgh councillor, is voted by fellow party members as the leader of UKIP on Lincolnshire County Council. He nominates Robin Hunter-Clarke and Victoria Ayling as his deputy leaders. UKIP become the second largest group on the council, the majority opposition.
    UKIP Councillor Chris Pain. Photo: Steve Smailes for The LincolniteUKIP Councillor Chris Pain. Photo: Steve Smailes for The Lincolnite

    May 11, 2013: Chris Pain confidently says he will stand for MP at the next general election for Boston and Skegness against Conservative MP Mark Simmonds, squashing rumours that UKIP leader Nigel Farage will stand there given the party’s success in the area.

    May 17, 2013: All 16 UKIP councillors refuse to sign an anti-racism declaration at the County Council annual meeting. The document is meant to ensure all Lincolnshire residents are treated equality and have access to the same services. The motion is passed by 60 other councillors.

    May 23, 2013: Lincolnshire Police begin investigating claims that racist comments were posted on the Facebook pages of UKIP Lincolnshire leader Chris Pain and two other UKIP councillors, Alan Jesson and Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright. All three strongly denied making the comments and Chris Pain said his account had been hacked. The issue was brought to police attention by someone from the County Council.

    June 4, 2013: Chris Pain is forced to step down from his East Midlands regional chairman role over the alleged racist comments posted on Facebook. UKIP’s National Executive Committee (NEC) said it was holding its judgement on until police complete their investigation. Chris Pain remains leader of the UKIP group on the County Council.

    June 12, 2013: Chris Pain insists sanctions imposed on him by UKIP are just a formality while he clears his name and says he submitted an application to stand as an MEP representing the party in next year’s European election.

    July 31, 2013: Chris Pain confirms his deputies Victoria Ayling and Robin Hunter-Clarke have been stripped of their roles in the party on the County Council. Councillor Ayling says “There are question marks over the process taken with this,” and that UKIP are investigating the matter. Tattershall Castle Councillor Colin Mair becomes the new deputy.
    UKIP Councillor Tiggs Keywood-WainwrightUKIP Councillor Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright

    September 5, 2013: Tiggs Keywood-Wainwright gains the Fenside seat for UKIP on Boston Borough Council with 162 votes. The by-election was called after English Democrats Councillor Eliott Fountain was ousted for not attending any council meetings for over six months.

    http://thelincolnite.co.uk/2013/09/t…olnshire-ukip/

    The bit in bold is where the trouble starts. I presume it is because the fascists that are the real power behind this country took a disliking to the UKIP taking a disliking to their “anti-racism” offensive (May 17). They tried to set Chris Pain up (May 23), but we can deduce that he managed to clear his name due to the allegations failing to stick. This must have been an embarrassment for the fascists so they presumably called on their man within the UKIP to deal with it. That man was Steve Crowther. The reason for the trouble in the first place was because the UKIP went against the grain.

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    This is also worth bearing in mind:

    Anna-Marie Crampton · Top Commenter
    I was one of those that UKIP clearly “didn’t like” and “didn’t fit the mold” when i ran as a candidate in the CC elections in East Sussex last May… UKIP management’s cronies hacked in to my Facebook account (allegedly), created a ghost or clone account using my name, photograph and my email to access my main account… wrote a whole load of anti semitic rubbish in my name which no thanks to their useless press department, resulted in a nationwide indeed, world wide negative press campaign against me which has carried on over many months. The last publication that i am aware of, with negative comments related to myself was just a month ago in The Sunday Times! They deliberately tried to wreck my reputation and standing in the community and possibly make me a target of extremists who assumed (wrongly) that i am anti semitic and a crazed conspiracy theorist… they then, suspended me. It was a vicious, nasty, reckless and dangerous attempt to discredit me. It was a difficult time but, i weathered it and held my head high. I still ran in the CC Elections and indeed my colleague and i did incredibly well. Why? Because the local community and indeed UKIP branch members didn’t for one minute believe the negative publicity cooked up by these vicious but incredibly ambitious thugs within UKIP… Shameful. I have since resigned from UKIP and am convinced that UKIPs upper management were behind this witch hunt. There is no way that UKIP are committed to free speech or democracy. I believe they are just another right wing controlled opposition party who are supporting and abetting the establishment’s agenda. Some of grassroots remain in denial but, when the truth comes out and it will, they are in for an unpleasant awakening when they realise they have all been well and truly used.. and conned. There is no loyalty within UKIP, no respect and no thanks for hard work or loyal support by its members, candidates and councillors… in fact, from what i have witnessed first hand, grassroots are lucky to receive so much as the crumbs from management’s table.

    http://thelincolnite.co.uk/2013/09/t…olnshire-ukip/

    That’s not too “cool” either!

    It seems to me that the party is being hacked. We know that the fascists play dirty if they can’t win legitimately, and they must have seen that Chris Pain could have ended up as the UKIP MP for Lincolnshire. The fascists seem to use Facebook as their method of choice in their sting operations. They must have some sort of control in this. At a guess I would say it looks like some rogue elements within the British intelligence agency, which are obviously linked to the higher echelons of the British government. You see in a way this has come about by the UKIP being a victim of its success. It now represents a credible threat to the establishment. Unless the UKIP take this seriously they will end up like the BNP and become extinguished. You UKIPPers have the big boys on to you now. Good luck, as I think you will need it.

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    REDACTED as being gratuitously damaging to UKIP, without being constructive or contributory by one of the regular anonimised trolls on the site whose contributions are mostly sneering efforts to demean UKIP and undermine any efforts to accentuate its problems with the aim of cleaning-up the Farage controlled party to make it in any way fit for purpose and electable to principled people of integrity as the flagship of EUroScepticism.

    In my opinion.
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    REDACTED as being gratuitously damaging to UKIP, without being constructive or contributory by one of the regular anonimised trolls on the site whose contributions are mostly sneering efforts to demean UKIP and undermine any efforts to accentuate its problems with the aim of cleaning-up the Farage controlled party to make it in any way fit for purpose and electable to principled people of integrity as the flagship of EUroScepticism.

    In my opinion.
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    REDACTED as being gratuitously damaging to UKIP, without being constructive or contributory by one of the regular anonimised trolls on the site whose contributions are mostly sneering efforts to demean UKIP and undermine any efforts to accentuate its problems with the aim of cleaning-up the Farage controlled party to make it in any way fit for purpose and electable to principled people of integrity as the flagship of EUroScepticism.

    In my opinion.
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    The destruction of Ukip from within is following a similar pattern to the destruction of the BNP from within. Even the personal smears are similar – faked Nazi salutes and anti-Semitic comments. This has a far reaching effect beyond just that on members and supporters as it discredits nationalists and patriots to the wider public and strengthens the state in their battle against the British people.

    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
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    Here’s a bit more news from up that way.

    THE UK Independence Party is in meltdown in Worcestershire – with an entire group of activists sensationally quitting to form a breakaway group. West Midlands MEP Mike Nattras and Carl Humphries, UKIP’s best known organiser in Worcester, have teamed up to launch a new political party.

    Mr Humphries is a former Worcester city councillor and UKIP election candidate who has been working behind the scenes for years recruiting new party members.

    Mr Nattras, who quit UKIP last month after being deselected from next year’s European elections following rows with leader Nigel Farage, has launched ‘An Independence Party’.

    To add to the drama, two other UKIP activists resigned yesterday to join the new party – saying they were fed up with being “dictated to”.

    http://www.droitwichadvertiser.co.uk…y_is_launched/

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Regular readers amongst you will have noted that most of this has been covered in some detail, elsewhere on this weBlog.

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Past UKIP Chairman’s Excoriating Comment on UKIP

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Past UKIP Chairman‘s Excoriating Comment on UKIP
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Past UKIP Chairman’s Excoriating Comment on UKIP! By no means the first such denunciation of UKIP by past executives of Farage’s Party!

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Hi,you may well find the comments of a past Chairman of UKIP of interest:

Niall is absolutely correct in stating that UKIP should have produced an entry for the Brexit competition.

UKIP let every member down when it failed to do anything of note to fight the Lisbon Treaty.Indeed Farage is on record as stating in the NEC meeting that the Conservatives should be left to deal with it ! Neither did it produce a competent petition to trigger a debate in Parliament on a referendum,that was left to Nikki Sincalir and others and to the Express.

So sadly this lack of action by the party is par for the course.It cannot simply leave action to party members on an ad hoc basis .The whole point of a party is to organise the membership,provide leadership ,produce useful ideas and strategies and accurate written work.Doesn`t seem to be happening does it?

To view the original as posted on the internet CLICK HERE

& to quote from the same thread on the UKIP controlled thread the comments of a past UKIP Wales Chairman, Chairman of UKIP’s Cheltenham branch and ex UKIP Head Office manager:

Finishing most posts with ‘UKIP is not fit for purpose’ is a strapline that is worth repeating until it sinks in.

I do paste other’s articles and the substance and questions that need addressing are in them.

UKIP is at best standing still, by any serious analysis, and what little it is said to be achieving, on the edges of our politics, would have been achieved back in 2007 when UKIP had the same membership as today.

Now take the absolute failure of UKIP MEPs. Of 13 elected in 2009 we have only 8 left which is now 9 with the addition of the Tory Helmer.

So 5 have left or been ‘got rid of’ so if that is your definition of success it sums you up!

Then of the 8 UKIP MEP’s left who ever hears of Dartmouth,Bufton,Clark or Colman?

Finally add NO official UKIP Brexit entry and you know FKEU I’m absolutely right – UKIP is NOT fit for purpose!

For those who have had the pleasure of not noting FKEU you will find he is one of the more unpleasant and damaging, to UKIP, trolls, who shelter their sneering and dishonest misrepresentations in a false identity; similar to such as SteveUKIP, Hartlepool and others who are too ashamed to put their name to their sabotage of UKIP’s efforts to appear principled, responsible and ethical (they are not alone!)
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UKIP & Le Pen: The links & what they mean.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/11/2013

UKIP & Le Pen: The links & what they mean.
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UKIP & Le Pen: The links & what they mean and just how close they are!!

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There was an interesting moment on Sunday when Andrew Neil asked Paul Nuttall about alleged links with Marine Le Pen, leader of the French National Front.

Nuttall stated that he had never met her.

As recently as the early part of this year reports from Brussels referred to meetings between UKIP and Front Nationale figures to discuss the formation of a political group in the European Parliament after next May’s european elections. Godfrey Bloom, of course, was co-founder of the European Alliance for Freedom, a far-right pan-European political party. The photo shows the UKIP logo side by side with the EAF one.

This is from a statement issued by Front Nationale last year:

‘Marine Le Pen joined the European Alliance for Freedom last October. This pan-European platform was founded at the end of 2010 and despite its opposition to the European Union such as it is organised at present, has been recognised by the European Parliament. The members of this Alliance have come from the ranks of those movements engaged in the patriotic and sovereignty struggles of our time. They include for example the Austrian FPÖ of Heinz-Christian Strache, the British UKIP of Nigel Farage…”

Mme. Le Pen is in the ascendency, and is probably the most prominent populist politician in Europe. Farage is said to be seething about this.

Pan-European parties will be able to contest ‘virtual’ constituencies. To be top of the candidates list in one of these parties is a guarantee of a job for life, which is what Farage craves. He knows that a seat in Westminster will never be his, and a Tory peerage is dependent on his patrons toppling Cameron and replacing him with one of their own, David Davies, most likely.

However, The EAF is now very much Le Pen’s vehicle, and she is steering it well. The will be no political space for a second far-right party. Farage has missed the boat and he probably knows it.

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