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Ukip, Nigel Farage & Power Struggles WILL LOSE The Referendum For BreXit

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 23/03/2016

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Ukip are squabbling like ferrets in a sack – just for a change!
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This time it is a power struggle where Nigel Farage would seem willing to do absolutely anything to get his hands on the cash available if ‘Grassroots-Out’ aka ‘Leave-EU’ can get the designation in the EU Referendum.
Susanne Evans together with a few cronies, just doesn’t seem to believe Nigel Farage can be trusted and have joined his opposition contesting for designation and the pot of gold.
All this greed, self importance, show boating and squabbling is clearly at the cost of these United Kingdoms and the best interests of Britain and our peoples – in fact EUrope at large and global peace, as it stands this is just a repeat of the 1975 Referendum – almost as if these squabbling ferretts are using the book on the 1975 Referendum as an instruction manual!
All the same mistakes are being made that lost Britain the Referendum in 1975 with most of the same lies and desperate claims designed to spread FUD that won the day for the EU in 1975 – Read the book for yourself it is available in electronic version free CLICK HERE
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SUZANNE’S HIGH COURT BID FAILS

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Suzanne Evans’ application in the High Court to have her suspension from UKIP lifted has failed. She’ll have to pay £5,000 costs. Patrick O’Flynn has started a petition to get her reinstated. Read all the gory details of the court case only on Guido here

UPDATE: Suzanne speaks:

“I am stunned and distressed by this latest turn of events. I will look to take up whatever right of appeal is open to me. I remain determined to keep my personal focus on working to the full extent of my ability to help secure a ‘Leave’ vote in the EU Referendum on 23rd June, and contribute to electoral successes for UKIP on 5th May.”

UPDATE II: UKIP hit back:

“A disciplinary panel constituted by the UKIP National Executive Committee today (23 March 2016) heard a complaint against Suzanne Evans that she had publicly criticised a fellow candidate in breach of the party rules and in terms which contravene the Party Constitution. The panel resolved to suspend her membership of the party for six months. The decision may be subject to appeal. Ms Evans sought an injunction in the High Court today to prevent the hearing, but this was unsuccessful. As a consequence of this, she will not now be nominated as a UKIP candidate in the London Assembly elections to be held on May 5th.”

 

SUZANNE EVANS SUSPENDED BY UKIP: HIGH COURT BATTLE TODAY

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Guido understands there a plans afoot in UKIP to suspend Suzanne Evans from the party. The party scheduled a disciplinary meeting this morning to discuss whether to take action against Evans over a series of claims involving alleged breaches of party rules. Court documents show that Evans is filing an application to the High Court at midday today to attempt to postpone any disciplinary action until after the GLA nominations are closed on March 31. In the explosive court documents, Suzanne writes that Nigel Farage is trying to force her out:

Evans makes a series of allegations against Arron Banks and Farage’s former aide Raheem Kassam:

She concludes:

The most explosive developments in the UKIP civil war yet…

UPDATE: UKIP confirm Suzanne Evans has been suspended for six months.

GOOD EVANS! SUZANNE SACKED AGAIN

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Farage’s revenge on Vote Leave-backing Suzanne Evans continues – last week hesacked her as deputy chair, today he’s sacked her as welfare spokesman. Last night Nigel told a Ladbrokes panel that Douglas Carswell is “irrelevant“, the second time in a week he has slagged off his only MP. How about focusing on the real enemy?

UPDATE: Suzanne tells Guido:

“I must be the most purged woman in British Politics! You have to laugh it’s so ridiculous.”

UPDATE II: Peter Reeve, UKIP’s local government spokesman and also a Vote Leave supporter, has also been sacked by Farage. He’s been replaced by porn scandal David Sprason, who signed up UKIP councillors to Grassroots Out.

SUZANNE EVANS OUT AS UKIP DEPUTY CHAIR

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Suzanne Evans is no longer UKIP’s deputy chairman. Farage says in a statement:

“I have made some changes to our structure today. Both of our Deputy Chairs are candidates in the upcoming elections and this will limit any role they can play in the national referendum campaign. So I thank Suzanne Evans and Neil Hamilton for their time as Deputy Chairs and announce they will be replaced by Diane James and William Dartmouth.”

Expect to hear from those involved that this is nothing to do with UKIP’s internal politics. Though allies of Farage say this is a putsch against Suzanne, long seen as a threat by the leader’s camp and a supporter of Vote Leave, not Nigel’s preferred Grassroots Out…

UPDATE: A Breitbart story written by Farage’s former aide Raheem Kassam reveals the thinking at Grassroots Out – stripping Evans of the deputy chair role hurts Vote Leave’s bid for the designation:

“Ms. Evans no longer holding a position with the party is also problematic for the ‘Vote Leave’ campaign who have been trumpeting her support as their UKIP “cross party” backing. Now they are limited to one Member of Parliament, one Member of the European Parliament, and one member of the National Executive Committee.”

UPDATE II: Evans speaks:

“I’m naturally disappointed. I felt I was doing a good job and helping to broaden the party’s appeal both in relation to the EU referendum and the upcoming electoral challenges of May 5th and beyond.

I’d like to say a huge ‘thank you’ for all the many messages of support I’ve had from UKIP members already today, but I certainly have no intention of being drawn into any disharmony. I of course accept that it is entirely within any party leader’s authority to choose and to change their own top team.”

LOOK TO THE EVANS: SUZANNE RUNNING FOR MAYOR

“I have thrown my hat into the ring to apply to be UKIP candidate for Mayor of London and or an London assembly member. Let’s be realistic, I don’t think London is going to have a UKIP mayor any time soon. But I think it’s time for London to have a different view, a different approach. I think there are a growing amount of people in London who want to see things from a UKIP perspective.”

Also in the running for the UKIP nomination is Culture spokesman Peter Whittle, asrevealed by Guido last week.

Guido also hears that Richard Hendron, organiser of UKIP’s Gay Pride contingent, is also throwing his hat into the ring. Suzanne says she reckons she is Nige’s candidate…Suzanne Evans tells Iain Dale:

ALERT RAHEEM!

Douglas Carswell, Suzanne Evans, Mark Reckless and UKIP party chairman Steve Crowther openly plotting in Portcullis House.

Don’t tell Raheem!

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GOOD EVANS! SUZANNE UNSACKED

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A UKIP spokesman says:

“Suzanne Evans has not been sacked as a UKIP spokesman. The email seen by the BBC was issued without proper authority.”

Being unsacked is the new unresigned… how do we know this spokesman has the proper authority to unsack Suzanne?

QUOTE OF THE DAY

Godfrey Bloom on Suzanne Evans and Nigel Farage:

“It was like a 1938 Politburo member criticising Joe Stalin.”[…]

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SUZANNE SACKED AS UKIP SPOKESMAN

Via the BBC:

No one survives questioning the dear leader…[…]

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SUZANNE EVANS: FARAGE PERCEIVED AS DIVISIVE CHARACTER

Yesterday Farage said he would be “prepared” to lead the ‘Out’ campaign, a view not shared by Suzanne Evans on the Daily Politics this afternoon:

“I think Nigel is a very divisive character in terms of the way he is

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SACKED SUZANNE EVANS: UKIP BLOOD-LETTING “A COINCIDENCE”

“There has been no purge,” sacked Suzanne Evans told Victoria Derbyshire this morning, insisting it is “a coincidence” that she, Patrick O’Flynn and Gobby have all since lost their jobs. Apparently we shouldn’t believe the “hostile media agenda” and “the […]

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Yet More Ukip Councillors At Odds With The Party & Suspended!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/11/2015

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Three More Ukip Councillors At Odds With The Party & Suspended! Soon Ukip will move from insignificant to irrelevant!

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THREE Ukip councillors have been suspended from the party following a major rift in the Basildon group.

Peter Holliman, Wickford North councillor and leader of Wickford Ukip, has appealed the decision alongside David Harrison and Alan Ball

David Harrison, Peter Holliman and Alan Ball have all been suspended from Ukip until further notice, but have appealed the decision made by the national party.

A Ukip spokesman confirmed the trio will keep their membership until an investigation has concluded, but will not be able to take part in party activity.

The three councillors, who split from Basildon’s main Ukip group earlier his year to form their own Wickford group, said in a statement: “As from 9am on Wednesday, November 11, we have been suspended from Ukip.

“We will continue to serve the people of Wickford as we have done since being elected to Basildon Council in 2014, and will continue to do so until our re-election in 2018.

“We have each submitted an appeal against the circumstances of the suspension from the Party.”

Mr Harrison has previously broken ranks to vote against Basildon’s Ukip leader Linda Allport-Hodge’s proposals.

Mrs Allport-Hodge threatened to suspend him last month.

In October, Mr Harrison voted against a proposals by Mrs Allport-Hodge to reform the planning committee, meaning it was defeated by a single vote.

He also voted against Mrs Allport-Hodge’s proposals to introduce pledges on clean energy and air quality into the council’s corporate plan.

Mrs Allport-Hodge refused to comment on the suspension.

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Another Of Nigel Farage’s Proteges Proves A Fool!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/12/2014

Another Of Nigel Farage’s Proteges Proves A Fool!
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Winston McKenzie, Another Of Nigel Farage’s Proteges Proves A Fool & is dumped by him as with so many of his other proteges!

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yet more signs of utter incompetence, poor leadership, bad PR management and Ukip members squabbling like ferrets in a sack.

How can Ukip, with its endless squabbling and the back stabbing amongst its low grade MEPs and leadership and with absolutely zero policy consistency less organisation and no viable, costed, responsible and honourable EU eXit and survival strategy let alone tactics or vision after 22 years be seen as a viable option for election to any office of consequence in domestic politics.

Two UKIP candidates sign McKenzie no confidence motion

Two UKIP parliamentary candidates have put their names to a motion of no confidence in Winston McKenzie standing for the party at the General Election in May.

Jesus has found Nigel Farage: the UKIP leader had to  contend with being followed by a Christ-lookalike after the latest Winston McKenzie gaffe last week

Gaffe-prone McKenzie, the “Chump from the Dump”, was suspended as chairman of the Lambeth and Croydon North UKIP branch last week, and the entire branch’s activities suspended while an investigation is conducted into the local party’s affairs.

Paul Oakley, from UKIP’s London regional office, distributed an email to Lambeth and Croydon North members late last Wednesday ordering them not to speak to the media. This email followed a meeting of members, organised by Coulsdon parking campaigner Peter Morgan, who was suspended from his UKIP membership by McKenzie last month.

The email from Oakley, seen by Inside Croydon, said: “No member is to approach any press or media outlet about the branch suspension and if contacted is to refuse to comment.

“Posting on social media about this matter is similarly unacceptable. Failure to comply with this will be considered a disciplinary offence.”

No confidence: local UKIP members want Winston McKenzie to be removed as an election candidate

The unauthorised meeting at Morgan’s house – apparently UKIP High Command is totalitarian enough to determine who may or may not meet at someone’s home – discussed a number of moves to unseat McKenzie, both as a local party official and as the parliamentary candidate for UKIP in Croydon North in the General Election.

The group has also been critical of Marianne Bowness, the ex-wife of Tory peer Lord Bowness and the treasurer of the suspended UKIP branch.

A number of motions critical of both McKenzie and Marianne Bowness have been discussed, as members have become angry about the treatment of committee member Peter Kirby, who was removed from office and then expelled from the branch by McKenzie. One of the motions calls on McKenzie to step aside as UKIP parliamentary candidate for Croydon North, and asked for the party’s national executive to remove him if he refuses to do so.

These motions were all signed by several members, and more than just a couple of “disruptive characters” and troublemakers, as McKenzie has claimed. Significantly, the signatories included Bruce Machan and Ace Nnorom. Machan is UKIP’s parliamentary candidate in Streatham, while Nnorom will be standing in Vauxhall.

Today, Nnorom, a former Labour Party activist, confirmed that he had signed the various motions, including that of no confidence in McKenzie as an election candidate.

Nnorom told Inside Croydon: “It was an email written by a member and my name was used because I said I will support the outcome of the meeting. There has not yet been any meeting for this vote to take place. 

Ace Nnorom: Signed motion of no confidence in Winston McKenzie

“Members just have disagreements on certain issues, that is all. And these issues can be resolved amicably.”

Nnorom denied that he had been instructed not to speak to the media “by anyone”. He also said that he has a “good working relationship with every member of the branch, including Winston”.

“The problem within UKIP’s Lambeth and North Croydon has been taken out of all proportion. This matter was a simple internal issue concerning the branch, which should have been resolved amicably by all and sundry.

“I supported the outcome of a meeting held to discuss matters related to financial dealings within the branch but the meeting came out with a proposal of vote of no confidence. Now, the party leaders are seeking to resolve all issues related to Lambeth and North Croydon.”

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Chris Pain Finds UKIP Squabbling Like Ferrets in a Sack!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/02/2013

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New NEC Member Chris Pain Finds UKIP Members & Supporters Squabbling Like Ferrets in a Sack!

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    Seth Starkadder :
    Actually, you are reading plain English.
    Events that have so tragically shaped UKIP these last few years when a 29,500 membership in autumn 2004 should have been increased by many times, and we see a one year police investigation ongoing ( resources for which have to be justified, and the C.P.S. – or even in this case perhaps the Attourney General’s office, – convinced of a case with admissable evidence ) matters as discussed above do in fact impact.

    We have seen ‘Junius’ publish cartoons of Mr Clark MEP, including wareing his bedroom slippers whilst simultaneously correspondence backs up that which appears online.
    That is, derogeratory statements designed to undermine an original member who like myself and others similarly denegrated, started the party in the country from our own resources.

    When one reads about Mr Clark “…..his reputation for falling asleep……. time to hang up the slippers ! D.C…….. he has to go home for Horlicks and bed regardless………. “

    then he informs the world

    “….. some great mileage here for Junius………

    just a few bits to be put to print ! “

    Note the sneering !exclamation mark.

    He clearly states ” I will be happy to send on info to you in the future……..”

    Then why does he not publish the ‘info’ that explains why we lost so many decent volunteer members, the sources of the three £ 500 cheques, their onward transfer, into which accounts, the correspondence requesting back our hard earned money, and who exactly are the ‘Junius’ team who rather like Lord Rennard; are rather adept at getting their candidate elected.

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    That is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever heard and there is no truth in that what so ever. I presume posted by Paula who recently rejoined the UKIP Nottingham branch ( AKA Tiquipaya ), it’s nice to see her back to her old tricks again. I have never had my integrity questioned at a East Midland Meeting, in fact i was voted 6-0 twice last year by the regional committee as the regional chairman ( first committee was disbanded by Derek, so there had to be a re-vote by a second committee). Also quite interesting I have never had any payment from the East Mids Committee at all, in fact I have just organised my second regional conference in Skegness, both cost me a fair amount of money and a lot of time and effort. If anyone wants to know the truth these facts can be clarified by the RO or any committee members or the minutes of the meetings. Perhaps the person in question wants to ask the secretary for clarification, but that won’t happen because it’s a bare faced lie. If this is the best a failed member of UKIP can do against someone who has worked their socks off for UKIP since 2004, I feel sorry for her!How do you report a false statement on here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gillman View Post
    Recalling our General Election ’round-up’ meeting which is invoked by the above I recall the Regional Organiser explaining to the the East Midlands committe how a candidate had particularly upset many volunteer members.
    He clearly indicated that a certain candidate would not be encouraged in his blatent and transparent intentions.
    I recall resignations due to behavoir not previously associated with those of us who started the branches and regions.
    The figure of £ 1,500 comes to mind in three cheques of £ 500 each , and clear written verbal and committee approved requests for return of our money. The chairman too had been approached.
    Bank statements show the truth of the matter, cheque books too. Yes the evidence mentioned above is available.
    Ian what is this post about, I have never been at a regional committee meeting whilst you were there, in fact my first meeting was as the No2 MEP candidate in 2009, at which stage i believe you had left the party to form UK first. Please don’t tell me you are enhancing this lie of Paula’s???The verbal ‘trashing’ of the long term treasurer ( 15 years )was a disgrace. His treatment alone should have merited action by a discliplinary committee.
    The immediate condemnation of all that had gone before without any evidence of experience, intellect in these matters, or actual ability to effect anything better , again an utter disgrace. We volunteers had effected the election of ten MEP’s by giving up our time and resources to achieve those in elected office who would assist our withdrawel from the E.U.Correspondence widely circulated indicates that the ‘Junius’ team now have in place a long supported protegee.
    Little wonder then that Mr Derek Clark MEP is lampooned in cartoon form upon the internet, by a fountain in Nottingham, shown in his slippers, derided as liking his Horlicks, and derogatory comments are published about him when clear written statements are passed around about the leadership being carefully kept in the dark about exactly what is happening .
    Monday being the likely NEC meeting day should be very interesting.Will there be a challenge for the leadership ?Ian what is this post about, I have never been at a regional committee meeting whilst you were there, in fact my first meeting was as the No2 MEP candidate in 2009, at which stage i believe you had left the party to form UK first. Please don’t tell me you are enhancing this lie of Paula’s???

    Ian what is this post about, I have never been at a regional committee meeting whilst you were there, in fact my first meeting was as the No2 MEP candidate in 2009, at which stage i believe you had left the party to form UK first. Please don’t tell me you are enhancing this lie of Paula’s???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Gillman View Post
    Seth Starkadder :
    Actually, you are reading plain English.
    Events that have so tragically shaped UKIP these last few years when a 29,500 membership in autumn 2004 should have been increased by many times, and we see a one year police investigation ongoing ( resources for which have to be justified, and the C.P.S. – or even in this case perhaps the Attourney General’s office, – convinced of a case with admissable evidence ) matters as discussed above do in fact impact.We have seen ‘Junius’ publish cartoons of Mr Clark MEP, including wareing his bedroom slippers whilst simultaneously correspondence backs up that which appears online.
    That is, derogeratory statements designed to undermine an original member who like myself and others similarly denegrated, started the party in the country from our own resources.When one reads about Mr Clark “…..his reputation for falling asleep……. time to hang up the slippers ! D.C…….. he has to go home for Horlicks and bed regardless………. “then he informs the world

    “….. some great mileage here for Junius………

    just a few bits to be put to print ! “

    Note the sneering !exclamation mark.

    He clearly states ” I will be happy to send on info to you in the future……..”

    Then why does he not publish the ‘info’ that explains why we lost so many decent volunteer members, the sources of the three £ 500 cheques, their onward transfer, into which accounts, the correspondence requesting back our hard earned money, and who exactly are the ‘Junius’ team who rather like Lord Rennard; are rather adept at getting their candidate elected.

    29,500 membership?
    could you please say where you got this figure from?
    esp as you say 2004.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Pain View Post
    That is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever heard and there is no truth in that what so ever. I presume posted by Paula who recently rejoined the UKIP Nottingham branch ( AKA Tiquipaya ), it’s nice to see her back to her old tricks again. I have never had my integrity questioned at a East Midland Meeting, in fact i was voted 6-0 twice last year by the regional committee as the regional chairman ( first committee was disbanded by Derek, so there had to be a re-vote by a second committee). Also quite interesting I have never had any payment from the East Mids Committee at all, in fact I have just organised my second regional conference in Skegness, both cost me a fair amount of money and a lot of time and effort. If anyone wants to know the truth these facts can be clarified by the RO or any committee members or the minutes of the meetings. Perhaps the person in question wants to ask the secretary for clarification, but that won’t happen because it’s a bare faced lie. If this is the best a failed member of UKIP can do against someone who has worked their socks off for UKIP since 2004, I feel sorry for her!How do you report a false statement on here?
    Here is the response of the underhand and cowardly FKEU – too ashamed of his lies, inuendo and behaviour to put his name to his cowardly carping:

    Intresting.
    Seems there are a nice group of people so desperate for UKIP to fail (as it seems they failed at being ukip themselves) they will spin lies to the sheep who lap them up as want to belive it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Pain View Post
    That is the biggest load of rubbish I have ever heard and there is no truth in that what so ever. I presume posted by Paula who recently rejoined the UKIP Nottingham branch ( AKA Tiquipaya ), it’s nice to see her back to her old tricks again. I have never had my integrity questioned at a East Midland Meeting, in fact i was voted 6-0 twice last year by the regional committee as the regional chairman ( first committee was disbanded by Derek, so there had to be a re-vote by a second committee). Also quite interesting I have never had any payment from the East Mids Committee at all, in fact I have just organised my second regional conference in Skegness, both cost me a fair amount of money and a lot of time and effort. If anyone wants to know the truth these facts can be clarified by the RO or any committee members or the minutes of the meetings. Perhaps the person in question wants to ask the secretary for clarification, but that won’t happen because it’s a bare faced lie. If this is the best a failed member of UKIP can do against someone who has worked their socks off for UKIP since 2004, I feel sorry for her!How do you report a false statement on here?
    Geoffrey Collier’s retort is:

    Chris Pain: While I do not know the identity of Tiquipaya, I am assured that it is not someone named Paula (whoever she is). From what you say evidence must exist as to her historic wrongdoings. Has she confessed to those? Is the R.O. to whom you refer, a Mr Ramsome who, for purposes of remuneration, denies being the RO and cites his occupation as that of Press Officer in EU ‘claims’ documentaion? The payments to you, I understand, relate to your candidacy in a parliamentary election, although I claim no first-hand knowledge as to the precise details. Apologise to the unfortunate Paula, keep rational, and start again.

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    Geoffrey, it’s quite ovbious that you know something about this slander and the person concerned! So let please put all the aleged info on here, re times, dates, people concerned and who posted this trash!!!!
    There is one problem I have never had any payements from the EMCC at all!
    I have not had a multiple of £500 cheques from the EMCC!
    I have not had a request by email, telephone or from the EMCC, because I have not had
    any money or had any funds period from the EMCC.
    Any one can contact any of the previous or the current EMCC members and my statement will be verified.This will then be confirmed as made up slander from someone that has a grudge against me personaly.
    So please can Tiquipa or yourself supply evidence of any kind re this issue, the answer is no because it does not exist. So please either put up or shut up and post a full appology on here!
    My NEC election result was exceptional, because other regions have got far more members than the East Mids, but this is just green eyed trouble making. After working hard in the party as an activist for eight years, organising two UKIP conferences, plus some decent results at GE’s by UKIP standards whilst repersenting the members, has gained their support. Then again it’s the MEP silly season soon and people will be crawling out from under their stones again, inorder to try to climb up the slimy pole.
    Junius in the past have both supported me and critised me, but there are several people whom I am aware have not voted for me because of the Junius recomendation, so it’s a two edged sword.
    So please Geoffrey please oblige with the information that I have requested above.

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    DELETED AS A DUPLICATE OF THE POST ABOVE!

I have a pretty clear understanding that the unfortunate Ian Gillman is unlikely to publish his evidence, probably using some ‘secret squirrel’ dellusion, and I know for certain he hasn’t a clue about Junius nor one shred of evidence that Chris Pain has ever spoken to or even knows Junius – though he may well speak to someone who supplies me with facts, as does Ian Gillman from time to time.Let us also be very clear that Derek Clark is a liar, untrustworthy, corrupt and self serving who has boasted openly of the amount of money he has defrauded the public purse of, and he was found guilty of defrauding the public purse of over £30,000 and ordered to repay the money he had perloined by OLAF – A similar amount of money as that which one of the other UKIP MEPs, Tom Wise, stole and for which Tom Wise was sentenced to 2 years in prison.I am morally certain that Chris Pain has never wittingly spoken to Junius and thus has never supplied Junius with material to publish. Regular readers will be aware that I personally NEVER confirm or deny who supplies me with the facts which I publish.

And then after an effort to censor the squabbling accusations and bickering broke out again (well it is UKIP! They fight like ferrets in a sack amongst the foot soldiers, just as their leadership does for lack of competence or ability) – note the time line:

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    Reminder of the rules:

    “Posters are responsible for content of their posts and should be in a position to stand by any of their claims through publicly providing proof of any allegation. (i.e “I have an original e-mail” is no good if you won’t/can’t post it)”

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    Ian Gillman surely has proof of all he claims. I wonder why he declines to share the proof with the world. He could afford to lose a £500 deposit in Corby so the cost of a scanner cannot be beyond him.

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    Persons are taking to the telephone in some excitement now as a recently elected NEC member with great plans for his own reforms , a Chris Pain has so much to say.

    The word from many is that Chris P. in his G.E. campaign in Louth, Lincs. obtained £ 500 from the EMCC .
    Then he claimed that the money had not been paid to his campaign and he put a lot of pressure upon the officers to send another cheque. He said that the cheque had not arrived.

    Reluctantly, his campaign was sent another cheque for £ 500 on the clear understanding that if the first cheque turned up it was to be returned to the committee.

    Incredibly, both cheques were banked. A dishonest demand for the second cheque had been made and despite his assurances that only one cheque would be banked, both were.

    The EMCC, short of money and relying upon volunteers with many years standing of generousity were told about these matters. Chris P. was told in several telephone conversations to return the money, he failed to do so.
    Written requests were made for the return of the money, Chris P. ignored those requests.

    The EMCC , following the G.E. met and the R.O. Don Ransome made quite a speech about matters in Louth, and Chris P. in particular. He left an impression that Pain would not be encouraged any further in his membership of UKIP.Members felt let down and cheated.

    The MEP for the region Derek Clark experienced nasty e-mails circulated by Chris P. about him and he became aware of a steady yet ongoing campaign to destabalise him from his position. This, oddly whilst always boosting Pain’s position.

    I did hear that the party chairman was approached by Chris Pain for money too, but unsure of the amounts requested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiquipaya View Post
    Incredibly, both cheques were banked. A dishonest demand for the second cheque had been made and despite his assurances that only one cheque would be banked, both were.
    … Chris P. was told in several telephone conversations to return the money, he failed to do so.
    Written requests were made for the return of the money, Chris P. ignored those requests.

    Then the cowardly ‘Independent UKIP’ as ever ashamed to put his name to his sneering, defamations, inuendo and outright lies said:

    This was surely reported to the Police in 2005. What was the outcome of their investigation, as for some reason you’ve not made reference to that. Thanks.

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This was surely reported to the Police in 2005. What was the outcome of their investigation, as for some reason you’ve not made reference to that. Thanks.
To which Geoffrey Collier made the reply:

Independent UKIP: I made the accurate statement that Chris Pain was wrong to attribute to a Paula? the authorship of that posting. Who the lady is, or what reprehensible things which she did in the past, has no bearing whatever on the issue being discussed. She was certainly not the individual who posted that information. Mr Pain appears to have been voted on to the NEC to help to control the Party, while he clearly has difficulties in controlling himself. Why are the Forum rules applied so unevenly? An NEC member, for example, by the name of Mr Mcgough frequently makes accusations of certain individuals being in the ‘pay’ of others without required to produce evidence. Perhaps with the advantage of reflection, Mr Pain may recall his parliamentary election, and be willing to agree that his local branch did make a financial contribution to him. Is the gentleman saying that no such payment was made, and no banking evidence as a consequence can be produced? Was he both the candidate and sole financier of his campaign?

One can only speculate that Mick McGough’s lies, slanders and defamatory claims are permitted to remain because being known to all as a low life a liar and a cheat it is felt that the more he says the more he damages his own credibility as it is clear that his fellow travellers such as Independent UKIP, FKEU, SDP and their ilk are clearly damaging the credibility of UKIP – hard as that is to do since UKIP are now little more than the only available dustbin, wherein protesters against the two Political Parties in Britain and the LibDims can post their votes with virtually no fear of any long term consequence, as shown by the likes of those quoted above who ensure that UKIP will never achieve anything in domestic politics beyond the cult of the one man band.For more factual details regarding Chris Pain and these matters you may care to CLICK HERE

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