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GP-PN > So there was a by-election , in Oldham

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/12/2015

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Hi,

So there was a by-election.

There isn’t much I would say about the Oldham West by-election. In 2001, 6552 voted for the BNP’s Nick Griffin. Today, 6487 voted for Ukip.

It looks to me like Ukip has hit that glass ceiling. Not only has the immigration gamble failed to grow the base in any meaningful sense, it hasn’t dented Labour at all even as Labour is in full civil war. It has parked Ukip firmly in the BNP slot with nowhere for it to go.

There is broad spectrum agreement now that Ukip has stalled and has nothing left to do now except quietly die.

This is a cause for some celebration among a great many anti-kippers and Tories. I just think it’s sad. Had Ukip played it’s hand well it could have been a major new force in politics – and a welcome one. Instead, against all the best advice, Farage threw caution to the wind and set course for the rocks.

It is now tarnished in such a way that it cannot recover. All that time and effort wasted. All those hopes dashed. All because of one man and his arrogance.

I suppose that should be a warning of sorts to Arron Banks. One bad turn and Brexit is buried. A movement tied to Ukip is one that has shackled itself to a concrete block and jumped into the harbour for a long sleep with the fishes.

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History shows that Political Parties that permit themselves to become personality cults almost inevitably reach their glass ceiling fairly rapidly viz: The EU’s Roy Jenkins SDP Construct, Liberals aka: Bonham Carter Party, Oswold Mosleyand the like. Ukip has fallen into that trap and compounded the error by recruiting from the mantle of the BNP just consider the level of racism in Ukip CLICK HERE.

One wonders how Aaron Banks made the money he is squandering on Ukip and now due to being part of the Ukip Cult following we see his Leave EU campaign floundering – with all the lack of gravitas and failure to get facts and strategy lined up that Ukip has used to engineer its eventual demise.

One has to wonder at Aaron Banks’ ineptitude, was it that: to make his money he accidentally tripped over a formulaic method that he had little understanding of? Why on earth for instance, when trying to launch a campaign that was supposedly cross party and none would one spread marmite on every item on thwe menu by employing Nigel Farage, just for a quick hit of members?

One has to wonder why one would bring in a FINANCIAL Director from your other business, with zero background in PR, politics, EU matters, history of marketing as ones CEO and then lauch the poor girl to do a front line presentation on TV – providing cringeworthy ineptitude, as she did CLICK HERE. It was astonishingly incompetent of Aaron Banks to throw her to the media wolves without any training!

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>GP – PN: Musing On the Inevitable Self Destruction Of Ukip

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/03/2015

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Musing On the Inevitable Self Destruction Of Ukip, with both reasoned opinions and undeniable facts!

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Saturday, 21 March 2015

13%.

13%. Despite everything that’s said, that is Ukip’s national polling. While true believers hold firm, the fact remains that despite all the issues out there, and the near desperation of voters for a sensible and respectable alternative, when asked about which parties they would vote for, very few want the Ukip option. The only people for whom that statistic doesn’t seem to get through, is a tiny, hard core, vocal minority, who dominate internet debates, who are Ukip because they dislike the system and the establishment parties more than most. It just doesn’t register with them why Ukip is unable to breakthrough and why it has become the most hated party with the most hated leader.

It’s a dustbin for ranty, foamy kippers. Spiteful, unhinged, unpleasant cranks who basically think Anders Breivik was right – and get aggressive at even moderate criticism of Ukip, making enemies of people eurosceptics need to win a referendum. Any party that attracts such misanthropic losers should be treated with deep suspicion. As crappy as establishment politics is, I don’t want people like that in office. These days there is not a fagpapers distance between the rhetoric of the BNP and Ukippers as they are today. Farage is just the sanitised front for it.

Ukip’s message is based on anger and resentment – and that is its cultural constituency. It says nothing to those ordinary folks now in jobs on higher than ever salaries, doing well and getting on with life – And that’s a very big constituency these days. The shrivelled and retreating message of Ukip can’t win. And it doesn’t deserve to.

All this “liebore”, “LibLabCon”, “EUSSR” crap is hackneyed, aggressive babytalk. It’s the language of losers, and it’s the language of zealots. Any reasonable, normal person looks at that stuff and thinks “w****r”.  And rightly so. And thus every time a kipper makes the case for Brexit, it becomes the politics of w*****s. Now everything they touch turns shit and good ideas are discredited by association. We can really do without it.

If you are really are serious about leaving the EU, you need to tell the Farage cult to Foxtrot Oscar.

  • We should thank UKIP for providing a dumping ground for so many mouth breathing, swivel eyed, personality disordered idiots who parade their ignorance as if it were a badge of honour.

    I have nothing but sympathy for the decent folk in UKIP who have seen their party hijacked by xenophobes, morons, money grubbing Faragistas and the mentally unstable.

  • The morning after the election will be most amusing, as the kipper toys will fly out the prams, thick and fast…

  • I believe you are wrong to imply that kippers (albeit I assume only some) think Anders Breivik was right.

    • Hi,

      Niall you only have to read the extremist, racist, anti Islamic drivel Gerard Batten and his clique of self styled so called christians publish and peddle, to realise just how xenophobic and evil Ukip is in some quarters.

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      Greg_L-W.

    • Ever since Ukip went full BNP and went for the loser vote up North, that’s actually a fairly common attitude in Kippers. Turning it into an immigration single issue party gave them permission to say all the things that have been festering in Ukip for a long time.

      • My point is that to blanket ALL kippers as supporting AB is simply WRONG and counter productive.

        • Hi,

          I don’t believe Peter implied unanimity of Ukippers in praise of AB, but there is no doubt Ukip has provided a home for such extreme and vile racists – just as I gave an example of their specific vile behaviour, which goes unchallenged by the leadership team and in fact emanates from at least one of the leaders of the Ukip cult.

          I have seen no evidence of widespread and responsible denunciation of the racism that is clearly endemic within Ukip, all be it hidden in incitement veiled behind anti Islamic propaganda and values.

          Let us not forget that after over 500 years of acceptance of a well int6egrated Jewish community of British in many quarters of Ukip there is a determination to ban Kosher meat as with Halal – this has also emanated from Ukip’s leadership and alongside banning of the Niqab has been policy in Ukip!

          Where exactly is the very fine line between incitment of theser hatreds and the actions of hatred of Anders Breivik?

          Regards,
          Greg_L-W.

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Followed shortly afterwards with this more detailed opinion:

Monday, 23 March 2015

Boxed in on all sides

I am now confident Ukip will poll less than 10%. The economy is improving and household debt is going up because of improved confidence, where only one in ten according to a new PwC report is in fear of losing their job. And so gearing the Ukip message to the “dispossessed” has proven a pretty poor strategy. Ukip’s base is shrinking, making it a party of losers. The boats anchored down so heavily with rage that a rising tide sinks them. 

By sending out dog-whistles to that shrinking demographic it distances Ukip from everybody else – and now it is cornered into making stupid comments on the spot because it has failed to put its intellectual arguments in place.

So now it comes over as an ever so slightly thick, angry nativist party lead by an opportunist – and all the while Ukip branches are playing host to mainland EU MEPs known for their far right activities, while Farage himself prates on about “multiculturalism” (which most normal people perceive as something else entirely), describing Islamists as a fifth column. Listen to the song their rhetoric sings. All the Left have to do is keep pushing at all the sore spots and Ukip walks into the trap time after time.

The net effect of this is that Ukip cannot present any winning arguments and taints good ideas by association thus is actively damaging the very cause it was set up to fight, ie leaving the EU. That is all entirely the doing of Nigel Farage, and it was inevitable this latest nonsense would be the product. It was predictable, it was predicted.

Sticking the knife in further today we have Matts Persson, director of Open Europe, saying “Mr Farage faces some “very difficult political decisions”. He said: “You have some questions to answer about exactly what you want to see. Is it a free trading, Hong Kong Britain with very Liberal politics including on migration – or is it what probably most of your [Ukip] voters want, to shut the borders and shut the world out which would mean a loss in terms of Britain’s GDP and economic competitiveness?”

But Ukip has now boxed itself in on that question by going up the “take back our borders” cul-de-sac, (and in case you were wondering, this is what it looks like), when even Alan Sked knew this was a dead end. This is why, up until Farage, Ukip was smart enough to go around the subject rather than meeting it head on. Ukip cannot now present a viable case for leaving the EU without making a u-turn on everything it has campaigned on while it has been in the public eye. There is a totally realistic way of achieving Brexit according to Persson’s vision, but Ukip have categorically ruled that out. So too has Open Europe by the looks but that’s a whole other story.

Now the Brexit camp looks like it’s going to have to fight against the perception it is seeking Ukip’s empty, backward vision for Britain as well as countering the disingenuous spin of europhiles. And if you were wondering why I detest Nigel Farage… that’s why.

 
  • “I am now confident Ukip will poll less than 10%.”

    Shouldn’t that be 110%, shurely shome mishtake?

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    I can only speak for the people I know around here. The number one subject is immigration. Number two subjects are local, so I won’t bore you. (Number 76 is the boring old EU.)
    Ukip are the only people to get worried, indeed upset, about this topic. The other parties either will not mention it or else present a pack of what I can only call lies.
    When that MEP presented her fudged bill on TV, I thought Nigel Farage spoke brilliantly. He constantly says things that resonate with me too. He exudes common sense.
    Mr Cameron’s performance on TV yesterday when he announced in his chummy way to the BBC announcer that he was not going to stand for President: I saw a slightly out of date old Etonian and his lady wife in a mansion pretending to be like me.
    Mr Miliband is actually a bit more like me than that. (But not much actually).
    Please do not write Mr Farage off. He really does speak to my soul and I am sure that he speaks to a lot of other people too as we watch Britain morph into a completely different country and try to come to terms with the impossible.
    PS We have a super local MP and he will get my Conservative vote. I hope that I am in no way a swivel eyed loonie! Our local Ukip party members are mostly from the Secondary Modern Queen’s School and stuck firm in the 1950s.

    • Hi,

      you seem to claim that Farage’s populist band wagon jumping is in some way reasoned and accurate and not just mopping up, and inciting, the acceptable fave of the BNP.

      If, post EU membership, we are to continue to trade globally we will be bound by aspects of global movement of people enshrined in international law, which Farage and his cronies disingenuously pass off as law imposed by the EU.

      The EU makes very little law of consequence, thus little would change. The EU merely repackages the laws agreed by such as WHO, WTO, CODEX and a host of other organisations that these United Kingdoms is a members of.

      Leaving the EU will be fairly cost neutral as we will have to set up all sorts of areas of competence within our shores to ensure we comply with international laws to continue trading internationally.

      I for one can not wait for Britain to be master of its own destiny once more, liberated from the over bureacratised and undemocratic EU, however EURealists understand that little would change save self determination.

      Alliances are so much more dignified and stable, adjustable and flexible than a one size fits all super state!

      Regards,
      Greg_L-W.

    • It seems to me that we who want to live in a country that governs itself in accordance with international law and which has an ancient, open and fair system of administration and law, cannot afford to be divided.
      Mr Farage whatever you call him is the best publicist we have. Rubbishing him all the time is silly.
      He is not Adolf Hitler. Just a very naughty boy.

      • Hi,

        how I agree with you Farage is a good publicist but there are absolutely no signs that he is a leader, or has any of the required OQ to lead; nor has he the self discipline to do the sound work that is required of a competent leader.

        No indeed Nigel Farage is no Adolf Hitler, he lacks Hitler’s military experience, has no decorations for bravery, seemingly has never had the discipline to take orders, hence perhaps his inabilities as a leader.

        It is also worthy of note that Adolf Hitler was not just an orator but was also an accomplished author in his own right, having presented many involved and complex concepts in his lengthy, if somewhat laboured, book; part manual and part strategy layout in Mein Kampf – after 22 years of ‘claiming’ a desire to Leave_The_EU Nigel Farage hasn’t even managed to come up with the most simple outline of a responsible, ethical EU eXit & survival strategy, let alone the detailed work needed to outline the tactics nor any clear vision of the future liberated from the EU.

        You are right, Nigel Farage is no Adolf Hitler but it is surprising just howmany of Adolf Hitler’s concepts Ukip espouses, read for instance Gerard Batten’s vile Immigration pamphlet and his racist renunciation of Islam, so redollent of Hitler’s efforts to blame the Jews as a group for the problems of his Country.

        But I do agree Nigel Farage is no Adolf Hitler.

        Regards,
        Greg_L-W.

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GP-PN: 100 Reasons Not To Vote For Ukip

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/02/2015

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Fisks Ukip’s banal list of 100 policies, published as a forerunner to their Manifesto launch, subsequent to the apparent firing of Nigel Farage’s selected El Supremo Tim Aker MEP!

It gives 100 Reasons Not To Vote For Ukip in May

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Hi,when Ukip published their banal list of 100 items as a guide to their delayed Manifesto I had intended to fisk it but time overtook me and it seems pointless now, with less than 100 days to go to election day.

An even better excuse for not doing the job is that amongst other examples Peter has fisked each item more than adequately and in a manner with which I agree.

Thanks Peter ;-))

100 reasons to ignore Ukip

Back in May, and many times since, I have remarked that “Ukip has nothing of any great substance, and even though we are promised a manifesto, I expect it will be the same rag-bag of parish suggestions box entries picked out of a tombola with no unifying theme. And as if on cue, we get 100 reasons to vote Ukip in the absence of actual policies. Mystic North strikes again! I’m not going to rubbish all of them since some of these random scattergun statements are desirable outcomes or policy instruments, but without context, they mean nothing. Let’s have a look at them shall we?

1. Get Britain out of the European Union

On this we are agreed. But this isn’t a policy. This is an ambition. As we have discovered, it ain’t simple, it ain’t quick and it will need an alternative. There are no magic wands and if you think it’s a simple process, you simply don’t understand what the EU is. Here I remind readers that Ukip does not have a Brexit policy.   

2. Get control of immigration with an Australian-style, points-based immigration system

State bureaucrats second guessing the human resources needs of UK plc. What could possibly go wrong? Never mind that quota based systems can result in a net increase in immigration and that there is no evidence it could work for Britain since we are an entirely unique nation with entirely different geography. Ukip has failed to explain why their idea, plucked out of the air, would work, when successive administrations have failed in light of the complexities, costs and international treaty obligations. And in any case, we already have a points based system – and have since 2008. 

3. £3bn more, annually, into our NHS which desperately needs it

From where exactly? And who says the NHS actually needs it? Could it just be that the pressure could be taken off the NHS by fixing the GP system and adult social care? Maybe, we don’t know, because Ukip hasn’t done any thinking on this. This link is where a Ukip policy should be looking.

4. Scrap tuition fees for students studying Science, Tech, Engineering, Maths, or Medical degrees

Sounds good in principle. But who is going to pay? Are we looking at tax funded university or are we looking at tax breaks for industry to finance them? Is it tied in with a broader industrial strategy? If so, what would that look like? And what about the creative arts? Multimedia technology might sound like a non-degree, but the games industry is not one we can afford to ignore.   

5. Pay greater attention to elderly care across the country

Is this a policy or a sneeze?

6. Cutting £9bn from our foreign aid budget

And what then do we fund overseas projects with, some of which are essential to slowing and managing immigration. It has been clear throughout that Ukip doesn’t understand what aid is or what it is even for

7. Give the people the ability to “recall” their MPs, without parliamentary or MP approval

This is one of Dougie Carswell’s ideas which failed to pass while he was a Tory and given the state of voter engagement there is actually very little evidence this would be used often, if at all. It’s easy to fill a online petition with a few thousand signatures, but less easy to do it in a constituency. This really shows us just how shallow Ukip and Carswell are. We do have a big problem with our democratic deficit. It will require a range of integrated measures to tackle and this is just tinkering around the edges with bits of parliamentary procedure. Democratic reform ought to be a central pillar of a supposedly anti-establishment party – but it curiously is not. 

8. Stopping our endless, foreign wars

You mean the ones that recently ended? How about a democratic mechanism to stop us getting sucked into them? No?

9. Promoting a British identity, as opposed to failed multiculturalism

How? And what does this achieve? And what is a British identity? How are you defining it?

10. Allowing existing schools to become grammar schools

And what do we do with the schools that don’t?

11. Ending PFI privatisation of the NHS, proliferated by Labour and the Tories

Ok, so we’re ripping up contracts now. What do we replace it with? In some places, it works.

12. Ensuring our armed services are properly equipped for when we do need them

Every government and every party has said that. What matters is the detail. As we outline here, that’s not so easy. 

13. Establishing a Veteran’s Administration to look after those who looked after us

Like the well funded and competent SAAFA?

14. Encouraging inward investment with growth markets, not JUST the failing Eurozone

How? This is a sentiment, not a policy.

15. Overcoming the unfairness of MPs from devolved nations voting on English laws

How? Got a policy?

16. Cutting bureaucracy, red tape, and wasteful spending from government departments

Which bureaucracy, which red tape, what wasteful spending? Easy to say, harder to do.

17. Cutting the same bureaucracy that hinders small businesses and entrepreneurs

What like?
 
18. Supporting our farmers with a Single Farm Payment Scheme

How would that differ from the one which already exists and is presently in use?

19. Ending the burdensome “green levies” that have added £000s to our energy bills

My energy bill doesn’t exceed £1000. And some of those green levies go toward better insulation which means we don’t have to build a new power station. So which “green levies” are we talking about?

20. Scrapping the poorly planned HS2 project, saving up to £50bn

How is NOT spending money a saving?  As in, I’ve decided not to buy a £250,000 Rolls Royce, so I’ve “saved” £250,000 … ? But do what instead to ease pressure on existing transport infrastructure?

21. Opposing tolls on public roads – we’ve already paid for them

Oppose who? Presumably, you’d be in government, so who would you oppose? Who is suggesting road tolls? Why is a digital tolling scheme necessarily worse than the road tax scheme we presently have? Variable peak prices could reduce congestion.

22. Supporting bus passes for pensioners with the support of local authorities

This already happens. Presumably Ukip wants to expand that. How is that paid for?

23. Foreign vehicles to require Britdisc passes to contribute to our roads they use

Won’t that make imported goods more expensive?

24. Ending the use of speed cameras as revenue raisers – they should be a deterrent

They are. Most of them are now switched off because they cost too much to run and administrate. The rest of them serve as part of active traffic management systems. This might have been a popular policy in 1992, but this is not 1992.  

25. Protecting our green belt

What with? A home defence force? Or are we talking abut planning? If so, what is Ukip’s planning policy and how does it propose to solve the housing shortage and affordability gap? Y’need a policy!

26. A central list of brownfield sites for developers

Like the one that already exists? And why should it be central? I thought Ukip favoured localism?

27. Houses on brownfield sites to be Stamp Duty exempt on first sale

There’s usually a good reason why brownfield sites remain inactive. Often ground contamination from previous use. It will take a lot more than stamp duty exemption. It will require a complete overhaul of the environmental impact assessment laws.

28. VAT relaxed for redevelopment of brownfield sites

See above. – and new build is already VAT exempt. Not forgetting that VAT is an EU tax and so we would be perfectly at liberty to abolish VAT if we wanted to.

29. Local referenda for large-scale development, if triggered by 5% of electorate

I am all in favour of more direct democracy, but this seems divorced from any context. It ought to be a part of a broader package of democratic reforms, but it’s just hanging there, apropos of nothing. Where’s the policy?

30. Introducing the ability for citizens to initiate national referenda

This is the closest Ukip gets to a big idea. But there needs to be safeguards against minority interest self-selection and mob rule. Referendums are not necessarily always an expression of public will. We will need to see details from Ukip. Which have not been forthcoming on this, or anything else.

31. Withdrawing from the European Court of Human Rights

And replace with what? Human rights are good. Fair trials and free speech and such.

32. Reversing the government’s opt-in to the European Arrest Warrant

What’s the point if Ukip wants to scrap the EAW?

33. Negotiating bi-lateral agreements to replace EAW

Easier said than done, I find.

34. No votes for prisoners

So we deprive them of liberty of as a punishment, but deprive them of a voice? I guess this is a matter of personal taste.

35. Full prison sentences should be served, parole on case-by-case basis

That is actually a logical inversion. What is the point of case-by-case parole if full prison sentences are to be served?

36. Replacing the Human Rights Act with a British Bill of Rights

And what would be on that bill of rights? Who would write it?

37. Official documents to be published primarily in English

Like they are now? 

38. Cracking down on honour killings, female genital mutilation, and forced marriages

I wasn’t aware the police were going easy on honour killings. They tend to be quick off the mark on murder. Does Ukip have evidence to the contrary? If so, that’s a very serious allegation and ought to be a central campaign issue. As to forced marriages, that is largely something an aspect of immigration with Asians returning to their place of origin to get married. What is Ukip’s immigration policy, beyond vague aspirations that is? 

39. Reviewing the BBC license fee with a view to reducing it

To what? Why is Ukip different fro the Tories on this?

40. Taking non-payment of the license fee out of the criminal sphere

You mean make it a civil debt so people then end up with a CCJ and unable to borrow, and have bailiffs banging at their door instead? Doesn’t sound like progress to me. Have another think. 

41. Amend the smoking ban to promote choice for ventilated smoking rooms

Oh honestly, who cares anymore? Any pub that was going under because of the smoking ban has done already. Pubs are nicer without smoker. I say that as a smoker. It’s not a big deal. 

42. Opposing plain packs for cigarettes, which has had no impact where trialled

Well, it took to number 42 before we got to any hint of sense, but it’s hardly earth shattering.

43. Promoting the employment of young, British workers

How? That’s a vague ambition, not a policy.

44. Repealing the Agency Workers Directive

And replace it with what? This is an interesting one. One must first examine why the directive exists. It is a regulatory response to a long standing problem of rolling six month contracts, largely as a product of previous labour market interventions. AWD is merely another hammer-blow in a game of regulatory whack-a-mole. Ukip clearly doesn’t recognise this otherwise it would have offered a more substantial policy that gets to the root of the issue.

45. Encouraging councils to provide more free parking on High Streets

I’ll let Jackart in his inimitable style address this one. It’s a stupid policy by stupid people who aren’t interested in policy. And it will take more than that to revive the high street.Does Ukip have a policy on that?

46. Simplifying planning regulations for long-term empty commercial properties

Why not just devolve planning policy to councils? You’re all about localism, aren’t you?

47. Extending the right of appeal for micro businesses against Revenue and Customs

In what circumstances? Apropos of what?

48. Negotiating bespoke trade agreements with EU member states and worldwide

Erm, see the thing about the EU is we can’t negotiate with individual EU member states. The EU doesn’t work like that. That’s why eurosecptics want to leave it! That’s where it would help to have a Brexit policy! But Ukipists told us they didn’t need one! Doh! Here we have an anti-EU party that doesn’t EVEN know how the EU works. What are we paying Ukip MEPs for?

49. Reoccupying our seat at the World Trade Organisation

Well that’s kinda implied by way of leaving the EU. That’s why eurosceptics want to leave.What do we do when we get there?

50. Abolishing inheritance tax

Fine fair enough. But that’s £4bn you’ll have to cut when you just said you’ll spend 3bn extra on the NHS.

51. Introducing a 35p income tax rate between £42,285 and £55,000 – taking many public sector workers out of top rate of tax

Is this costed? That’s going to mean some major cuts. What are you cutting? The foreign aid budget can only be spent once over.

52. Setting up a Treasury Commission to make sure big corporations pay their way in taxes

Here is some pretty typical Ukip ignorance. Many of these corporations are not based in the UK. They use freedom of capital rules to evade taxes. This is an international problem that requires an international solution, not least as part of a Brexit policy. Ukip doesn’t have one.  

53. Abolishing the Dept of Energy and Climate Change and rolling retained functions into DEFRA

So we’d then have a mega-ministry that looks after power stations and cattle and rivers. Why? Where is the logic?

54. Introducing an Apprenticeship Qualification for students who don’t want to do non-core GCSEs

What does Ukip think core GCSEs are? And how will an apprentice fare without them?

55. Scrapping the arbitrary 50% target for university attendance

This is one of Tony Blair’s most damaging policies. That’s why the Tories got rid of it almost immediately. Which tells us this entire list of “policies” is a cut and paste from obsolete material. Did Ukip even read their 100 reasons before publishing them?

56. Students from the EU to pay the same as International Students

Who said they don’t? And isn’t itimplied that by leaving the EU, all students would be categorised as international students?

57. Introducing more power for parents: OFSTED to investigate schools on petition signed by 25% of parents or governors

Governors can already demand an inspection.Parents only need petition governors.

58. Guaranteeing a job in the police, prison, or border forces for anyone who has served 12 years in the Armed Forces

So if you’ve done 12 years in the logistic corps, you get to be a policeman? No thanks.

59. Priority social housing for ex-service men and women, and those returning from service

They already get a very generous resettlement grant and tuition fee subsidy.

60. Veterans to receives Veteran’s Card to ensure they’re supported in event of mental health care and more

In the event of mental health care? The biggest problem is veterans not seeking help. That is why they end up homeless.You need a comprehensive veteran care policy. Where is it?

61. All entitlements to be extended to servicemen and women recruited from overseas

Stupid and mega stupid.  The whole point of separate arrangements is to encourage serving officers to return to their nation of origin, with a service pension as a means of international development. There are clear developmental advantages to remittances, but a retired officer class is an export of an administrative class that can help build good governance – and is a means of exporting our values. This is precisely what the Gurkhas were for, and extending entitlements to all means we now have to allow them residence along their families as well. Not very sensible for a party that wants to control immigration.

62. Establishing a National Service Medal for all those who have served

So if you’ve done 12 years in the catering corps, you get a medal?This cheapens the very idea of medals. They are given out for distinguished service. What is the point of this policy?

63. Encouraging local authorities to buy out their PFI contracts where affordable

Paid for with what? You’re massively cutting income tax, remember?

64. Ensuring GP’s surgeries are open at least one evening per week where demand permits

That’s one of the few things I’m not inclined to argue with. But there are contractual problems that means the GP service requires a complete redesign. Where is Ukip’s policy? Why does Ukip assume it can succeed in reforming it? Ukips health spokesperson, Louise Bours, admits “Honestly, I have no experience in health whatsoever”.

65. Ensuring migrants have NHS-approved health insurance until they have paid into the system for 5 years

So the NHS will need a whole new bureaucracy to approve all international health insurance products and a recovery department to chase international debts. This presumably means more delays and checks at ports. I don’t think they’ve thought this through.

66. Ending hospital car parking charges

Will likely result in less parking availability. It usually does.

67. Replacing bureaucratic watchdogs with locally elected health boards for more transparency

Can anybody honestly say that elected police commissioners have improved policing? Given the turnout at the recent PCC election in South Yorkshire, it is clear there is little public support for what are essentially overpaid press officers. Elections do not automatically equate with greater accountability or democracy.

68. Stopping the sale of patient data to big business

So Ukip opposes the sale of data from which extrapolations can be made which could improve drugs and patient care. They neglect to say why. There is a need to safeguard privacy, but we don’t want to miss out on the possible benefits of big data insights. You can complain about the shoddy way the government set about it with automatic opt-ins but let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water.

69. Ensuring a high standard of English speakers in the NHS

Who says they don’t, apart from bigoted Ukipists?

70. Amend working time rules to give trainee doctors, surgeons, and medics better environments

Amend to what? Got a policy?

71. Encouraging and protecting whistle-blowing to get to the bottom of poor performance

This is not an unfair thing to say, but poor service delivery is a recurrent theme in British news with the same systemic common defects. Our corporate scale councils and local services are losing touch, are unaccountable and out of control. It will take more than whistle blowers to fix it. You’d need a comprehensive policy based on a detailed and evidence driven analysis. Something Ukip lacks the talent and mental architecture for.

72. Ensuring migrants have jobs and accommodation before they can come to the UK

Not unreasonable. But how will this be enforced? And what will it cost to enforce it? Got a policy?

73. Migrants will only be eligible for residency after 10 years’ working here

Migrants or asylum seekers? If migrants, what is the rationale for keeping them in limbo? Either they qualify for citizenship or they don’t. Does Ukip even know the difference?

74. Reinstating the primary purpose rule, bringing an end to sham marriage migration

The primary purpose rule barred entry into the UK for thousands of people married to British citizens. It was dropped. The then Home Secretary, Jack Straw, said it was being ended because “it is arbitrary, unfair and ineffective and has penalised genuine cases, divided families and unnecessarily increased the administrative burden on the immigration system.” He was right then, and he’s right now.

75. No amnesty for illegal immigrants, or those gaining UK passports via fraud

Amnesties are generally a bad thing. They encourage people to try their luck and disappear into the woodwork until there is one. But we do need a policy to deal specifically with illegal immigrants. Thus far, Ukip doesn’t have one.

76. Protecting genuine refugees by returning to the UN Convention of Refugees principles

The UN Convention is the problem, creating asylum seekers who cannot be returned or ejected. I thought Ukip didn’t want that? We need either to renegotiate the Convention or withdraw from it. You’d need a detailed policy.

77. British companies to be prioritised to deliver foreign aid contracts

I’d rather companies delivering best value for money were prioritised. I want value for money and transparency.

78. Repealing the Climate Change Act 2008 which costs the economy £18n per year

No arguments there. But a cut of £18bn doesn’t pay for all Ukip’s ring-fences and extra spending.  

79. Scrapping the Large Combustion Plant directive and redevelop UK power stations

We would do that by way of leaving the EU. It is an EU directive. This actually makes little difference since we have already closed, or have started to wind down LCPD affected plant which was due for renewal anyway. It’s ancient. Does Ukip even have an up to date energy policy? 

80. Supporting the development of UK Shale Gas with proper safeguards

Rather a bland statement. As it happens, shale isn’t the big deal anybody thought it was for the UK, not least with oil prices now collapsing. There is something new on the horizon that we have heard nothing about from Ukip.

81. No new taxpayer subsidy for wind farms

What about addressing the old ones?

82. Leaving the Common Agricultural Policy

This is actually a consequence of leaving the EU. CAP is part of the EU. And what do we do instead? The EU will continue to subsidise food producers, so to compete, we will have to subsidise ours. You have already said you would keep the Single Farm Payment, but what is the rest of the CAP replaced with? You’d need a Brexit policy. 

83. Allowing parliament to vote on GM foods

It can already do that. If it so chooses.

84. Reinstating British territorial waters

That is implied by leaving the EU. But what about management of those waters where British fleets have sold their quotas to foreign trawlers? You’d need a Brexit policy. And a fisheries management policy for that matter.

85. Food to be labelled with country of origin, method of production, method of slaughter and more

Like it does already? The problem is not labeling, but an epidemic of food fraud. You’d need international co-operation to deal with it, thus a comprehensive policy on trade.

86. Ban live animal exports for slaughter

Why? Is this just one of those feel-good populist policies?

87. Scrapping the Bedroom Tax

The “bedroom tax” is as much about reintegrating people from remote for industrial communities into the economy rather than warehousing them on benefits. It could use a little tweaking to make it fairer to the disabled, but it is a useful tool in the box to tack embedded and long term welfare dependency. It might be popular to say you’ll scrap it, but you also have to state what you would do instead. 

88. Child benefit only for children permanently resident in the UK

Not unreasonable.

89. Future child benefit to be limited to first two children only

I wouldn’t argue with that, but it would be just one measure in a full programme of welfare reform. That would require a policy. Where is it?

90. Ensuring an initial presumption of 50-50 parenting on child custody matters

The childrens’ welfare is paramount. The presumption is that the birth mother is best suited – and usually is. But this is why we have a family court system. That needs an overhaul. So where is Ukip’s policy?

91. Safeguarding visitation rights for grandparents

So the state is overriding parents judgement now?

92. Supporting a streamlined welfare system and a benefit cap

Like the Tories do already? What is Ukip’s welfare policy?

93. Enrolling unemployed benefits claimants into workfare or community schemes

Like the Tories do already? What would Ukip do differently?

94. Placing revenues from shale gas into a Sovereign Wealth Fund to ensure future growth and security

How much will this generate? There isn’t a big UK dash for shale gas. 

95. Emphasising the immediate need to utilise forgotten British infrastructure like Manston Airport

Why is there an immediate need if it has been forgotten? And it certainly doesn’t look like Manson has been forgotten if you Google it. What on earth does this even mean?

96. No cuts to frontline policing

That ship has already sailed. The police have already been cut, but numbers is not the problem. It’s policing policy. Does Ukip have a police policy?

97. Prioritising social housing for those whose parents and grandparents were born locally

So basically immigrants will be excluded from social housing?

98. Reaffirming British laws, rather than allowing dual-track legal systems for minorities in the UK

Will this mean abolishing Beth Din for Jews, or does this just apply to Muslims?

99. Promoting patriotism and the importance of British values in our schools

What are those British values? How will you promote them? Got a policy? 

100. Rebalancing Britain’s economy

To what? What does that even mean?

Conclusion:

Last time I gave Ukip a good fisking I concluded as thus:

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. This is a party that has no great vision. What we see above is ill thought out guesswork by Ukip, a patchwork with no unifying thread of thought, gaping holes, no applied expertise, no detail, no philosophy and not even a systematic approach to policy making. It is wholly superficial stuff, tinkering with the status quo on the basis of populist sentiment, which is no way to govern a country.

No doubt the Ukipist reaction to this post will be to say that the other party manifestos are equally amateurish and stupid. This is probably true. Were I so inclined I could have a field day driving a horse and cart through a Labor manifesto – and as for the Lib Dems, such would be beyond reasonable analysis and beyond satire. But the crucial distinction is this: Ukip professes to be something different. It isn’t.

Party politics has degenerated into two bald men fighting over a comb, each chasing a marginal constituency of floating voters based on what carries over well in the media. So what if anything in the above makes Ukip distinctive apart from a vaguely defined ambition to leave the EU?

One thing that has plagued politics since 1997 is the steady stream of soundbite announcements dressed up as policy, keeping the churnalists and twitterers fed – and rather than pushing a vision, politics is all done on premise of “fly the flag and see who salutes”.  Enter Ukip doing exactly the same with no real agenda for change, no real idea of what they want – and not the first idea how to get it done.

You don’t have to be a policy analyst to see that no real thought has gone into Ukip’s policy making. This is back of fag packet stuff. We’re a matter of months from a general election and Ukip don’t know what they stand for – but expect us to believe they are an alternative. We can only assume that Ukip takes us for fools too. 

The only thing I would add is that we were since promised that Ukip would get its act together and wunderkind Tim Aker would deliver the goods. If this is all Ukip has to offer, a mere 100 days from the election, then it becomes clearer that Aker was sacked after all. And rightly so. And since Suzanne Evans is responsible for releasing this garbage as current campaign material, she should resign.

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Ukip Has Learned Nothing From History

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/11/2014

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astonishingly, after almost 22 years, Ukip still hasn’t learned the core principle of winning isn’t just endlessly seeking cheap publicity with inane antics and childish soundbites.

The Alamo
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The Alamo is one of the great military stories and indicates how a lack of strategy will always backfire in the end.

Mexican General Santa Anna was combatting the Texas Rebellion and winning battles with ease when he made a stop at the Alamo. Although Santa Anna won, the fight dragged on longer than intended, allowing the Texan forces to regroup. The decision to fight at the Alamo eventually cost the Mexican General the Battle of San Jacinto.

The lesson Ukip has totally failed to learn from history and the oft repeated downfall of politicians, generals and armies is:

a lack of strategy

will always backfire in the end

Ukip invents and contradicts its own so called policies – tending to be brief thoughts that are not seriously costed but sound popular as long as no one considers what yesterdays policy was or tomorrows will be!
For further thoughts in this direction you may wish to consider just one such CLICK HERE
But perhaps a simpler, more direct example of Ukip’s undeniable lack of strategy is that for almost 22 years they have claimed to espouse a ‘policy’ of Leave_The_EU yet to date they have NEVER had a responsible, ethical, costed, worcable EU exit and survival strategy – yobbery, bullying, abuse and childish stunts and ‘clever’ criticism is absolutely no substitute for strategy – just as soundbites and ‘clever’ interventions criticising those currently governing Britain are absolutely no substitute for strategy, tactics or policy, in a grown up world.
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Ukip, Like Achillies, Was Dipped In The Water

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Ukip, Like Achillies, Was Dipped In The Water – held by one point that was, is and will be its weak point – Leading to its destruction, inevitably, as increasingly the thinking public will ask ‘Is Ukip All It Seems’.

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let us not forget that with the approval of its NEC, MEPs and Glorious Leaderr, Nigel Farage not only commended Ukip’s 2010 Manifesto, going so far as to write its forward and give it his personal impramature praising David Bannerman for having put together such a comprehensive publication.
There was nor so much as a bleat from the sheep he controls with some of the most unpleasant and dishonest sheep dogs Britain has ever seen in modern politics.
Yet expediency has now led him to denounce his own protege as ‘drivel’ and pretend he had no idea what was in it ‘I never read it’! Can one take as serious a political party that is so incredibly irresponsible merely on the fact that itsonly recognised salesman and undeniable authoritarion controller seems not to be able to hold a thought in his brain beyond his 3 set speeches and todays 90 second sound bite.
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A measure of just how lightweight Ukip really is is shown by the fact that after 21 years of pretending to a policy of Leave_The_EU it has absolutely zero responsible, honourable, workable exit and survival strategy – only hiding its nakedness behind their new found meme of Brexit which clearly is no prize winner and not only unworkable but is inconclusive.
It seems all too clear Ukip are only there for the glory &
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Mark Reckless is set to win next week’s Rochester & Strood by-election with a lead of 12 percent, a poll commissioned by Lord Ashcroft suggests. Ukip gets 44 percent, the Conservatives 32, Labour 17 and the Lib-Dems a mere two percent.

However, only 72 percent of those intending to vote for Ukip next Thursday are likely to repeat the experience in May, leading to suggestions that the Conservatives will retake the seat at the general.

That much would be par for the course. It is not uncommon for by-election wins to be reversed once the drama of the special circumstances have abated, so it is quite possible that Mr Reckless’s new-found career as a Ukip MP might be short-lived.

However, there is another reason, aside from Lord Ashcroft’s poll, and it is one which may well have more general effect, possibly helping to bring crash the Ukip effect altogether. Such would be a much overdue corrective to a situation that has fed on the disintegration of classic party politics, which are becoming weirder by the day.

Predictions in this game – especially as to timing – are always fraught, but what is of special interest is this article in the Guardian, which takes apart Farage, in particular, and Ukip in general, over the inconsistencies in their policy statements.

We’ve been long convinced that these inconsistencies are Ukip’s Achilles’ heel, and our Pete has been doing a heroic job over at Complete Bastard analysing the increasingly dysfunctional mindset. But, while real Conservatives can beat Ukip where they are weakest, in coming up with sensible policies, what the Guardian has “discovered” for itself could be a game-changer for the “Left”.

Moving on from what Ukipists would call “smears”, the newspaper is now recognised that it has a bottomless well, one which will provide an inexhaustible supply of material to fuel attack copy for as long as there any point in publishing it.

And with the Guardian discovering the motherlode, the BBC can’t be far behind and then, as the Tory tribalism kicks in with the onset of the general election campaign, we may well see the “Right” take turns to capitalise on this weakness.

Parties and politicians can stand most things, especially when they are on the ascendancy, but the one thing that is always damaging is ridicule. And Ukipists have been laying down material for so long now that it would be positively uncharitable not to mine it.

How can one possibly resist the entertainment value of Farage proselytising on an insurance funded health service, only for a spokesman now to say of his opinion, “Obviously things have moved on significantly since then. That was then and this is now. It doesn’t stand up to say that’s still his view”. That, of course, it this week … next week is an altogether different matter. 

Sadly for the party, there is no prospect of a cure for this policy incontinence. The die has already been cast. UKIP has been all over the place for so long that virtually any new material is almost bound to provide ammunition for an “inconsistency” meme. For instance, if anyone cares to look closely at their ideas for free trade and “Brexit”, there is endless scope for amusement.

For all that, the party cannot say it hasn’t been warned. Candid friends have for decades been telling it that its lack of coherent policy is a potentially terminal weakness, but since this has evoked defensiveness and and the tedious, if predictable hostility, few outside the party are prepared to do much more than stock up with the popcorn and wait for the train crash.

Maybe the party will defy all predictions and make it big-time at the general election, but Farage’s latest stunt on a “deal” with Miliband is nothing if not spectacularly ill-timed, and bodes ill for the future. He is shackling himself to the rotting corpse of a failing party leader, as Miliband polls only 13 percent in the leadership stakes.

Nothing on the other hand, is calculated to build confidence in the Conservatives as the alternatives, but with the Scottish Labour Party in a state of collapse and the polls tilting in favour of Mr Cameron’s party, three points ahead of Labour, the only thing that looks capable of stopping them now is Ukip.

When people look at Miliband, they obviously have serious difficulty thinking of him as a prime minister, and with Farage and his train-wreck policies behind him, the Conservatives are struggling to avoid looking an attractive electoral proposition. How ironic it would be if making that so was Farage’s lasting gift to politics.

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Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/11/2014

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Yet again I stress – Ukip#s Over Simplification of the Immigration issue is either blatant ignorance or downright dishonest!

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endlessly we hear Ukip and their fellow travellers showing their ignorance of the immigration issue.
Yet again let us put the facts forward – Firstly if we Leave_The_EU it will make very little difference to our position as a target for immigrants.
Let us go back one small step and get to grips with a couple of irrefutable facts:
  • When I was born at the end of WWII the world population was around 2 Billion.
  • Now in 2014 the world population is over 7 Billion.
  • The world is no bigger now than in 1946 when I was born.
  • The rise in populatin in the last 68 years has led to increased desertification and reduced living space.
  • There is more food now but less well distributed.
OK – let’s stop at those basics for now but let us not overlook just one more basic fact and that is that in a world that strives to avoid war there are numerous worldwide international agreements that deal with refugees, asylum seekers and immigration.
As in almost all other areas The EU does NOT make the laws for Britain or for that matter almost anywhere else!
The EU merely receives laws handed down by such international bodies as The WTO, The WHO, CODEX, The UN, The IMF and a host more such international organisations.
The EU then re presents those internationally binding agreements and rubber stamps them as it puts its impramature on the paper work to pass it off as if it was an EU Law – surely you didn’t think The EU bureaucrats were clever enough to drw up and draft such laws and powerfull enough to impose them on every other Country in the world!
Minded of these facts Ukippers and their racist fellow travellers may find the following article rather easier to understand.

Sunday, 9 November 2014

Leaving the EU won’t solve our immigration problems

Lots of ridiculous articles around about immigration at the moment. On the one hand we have the Ukipist tendency to want to shut up shop and stop engaging with the world, and then you have the equally stupid Marxist view that we can “simply” open our borders to the whole world without any suggestions as to how this might be achieved.

We’re seeing tedious exchanges of migrant numbers and dry economic figures, followed by equally tedious bickering over who’s right. Let’s start with from the position that nobody is right. On the one hand we have a media whose job it is to make money, which means generating hits which means feeding their reader’s own prejudices back to them. So you cobble together a few stats with accompanying pictures of Romanian beggars and then you have a moral panic on your hands which can be marketed and turned into cash money.

Then we get more reasonable studies on the symptoms, and what we find is that these symptoms are eminently solvable. On the one hand you have immigrants who can cut down their expenses by sharing five to a room taking jobs under minimum wage, and on the other a settled community who can’t and shouldn’t have to compete at that level for work, but are then left worse off by leaving the welfare system and taking work – often impossibly so.

We’re seeing a disparity of opportunity here and an unlevel playing field at the bottom of the work ladder. Free market fundamentalists (myself included) would prefer that such an obnoxious and toxic idea never existed, but as a floor price mechanism for addressing the unfair competitive advantage, if properly enforced, can incentivsie work, can generate fair competition and if licensing for houses of multiple occupancy is properly enforced then the economic advantages to coming here to work are significantly reduced. This addresses what is known as the pull factor.

We can also toughen up vagrancy laws so that those who land without having first found accommodation will find that life here is not that pleasant. And let’s face it, vagrancy is a huge problem that does have negative externalities, and a distinction needs to be made between the genuinely homeless and the economic migrants who had some choice in the matter.

There are many small measures we can take that would have an enormous effect on the largely overstated symptoms which would soon collapse the moral panics and take the wind out of Ukip’s sails. So we have to look at why these laws aren’t being enforced. And here’s the kicker… it’s nothing to do with austerity or council cuts.

HMO law has not been properly enforced for a very long time thanks to the, frankly absurd, statutory obligations placed on councils to house people. If you shut down a HMO where there are twenty people living in one house then that places a burden on councils to find the resources to place them, which usually means an expensive B&B because that it the fullest extent of innovation you can expect from councils.

In effect, councils are in a state of paralysis because proper enforcement of the law then magnifies their troubles. Simply building more houses is the simpleton solution in that supply is quite soon taken up and supply can never quite keep pace with demand.

So there’s other aspects we can look at such as the push factor. Many immigrants are escaping war and third world poverty, from places like West Africa, Syria and Huddersfield. In many respects it is our own foreign policy that creates the push of immigration in the first place. In some respects it’s our inexplicable need to drop bombs on things and then even bigger follies such as the EU’s trade policy which has ruined the economy of West Africa by corruptly appropriating fishing rights and sending industrial seabed hoovers to decimate habitats which sustain inshore fishing and exports.

There is also much we can do with foreign aid as a targeted means of international development, but that would mean having a DfD that was fit for purpose and a coherent foreign policy. These matters are not wholly divorced from the EU but not solely EU matters either. But it is a mistake to believe that we can control immigration, or at least mitigate it without engaging in the wider world and even outside of the EU, our own welfare, trade and labour laws have a great deal more of a negative effect than open borders, and that is what creates the perception of problematic immigration.

Then we have the Rochdale and Rotherhams, which again is a good deal more to do with bureaucratic inertia and institutional paralysis, by and large a consequence of not enough subsidiarity, accountability and democracy.

The EU is a problem but it isn’t the whole of the problem, and on balance, EEA zone immigration not only makes us richer but it has also been a huge part of transforming Poland’s economy and in turn will do likewise for Bulgaria and Romania as the remittances start flowing and the cultural and trade advantages thereof.

The fantasy fiction of Marxists is every bit as absurd and toxic as Ukip’s small minded simpleton approach, and seemingly nobody wants to admit the complexity or even attempt to get to grips with the small things that we can do which would be transformational in a very short time. And why is this? It’s simple. Immigration is not at the centre of this debate and it is a proxy for a general disaffection, artificially induced by sensationalist media and opportunistic populist parties.

Our problems are many and multifarious, but I guarantee you the solutions are to be found in very obscure, very dry and distinctly unsexy civic laws. There is no big solution and no single large culprit. To pretend there is as Ukip does is cynical, intellectually dishonest and fatuous. But we’ll get our moronic points based quota system, and I will be completely unsurprised at how little difference it makes – and I will still be repeating myself in twenty years time.

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