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UKIP’s Desperate Spin IS Dishonesty!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 05/05/2012

UKIP’s Desperate Spin IS Dishonesty!
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UKIP’s Catastrophic Local Election & Mayoral Election Results Give rise to their Desperate and Dishonest Spin!

Can UKIP be so clearly out of touch with reality!!

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Hi,

a final round up on the local elections is best shown by the desperate attempt of what would seem to be one staffer trying to hang onto their job by posting spin on a UKIP controlled public Forum:

Yesterday, 11:28 PM #892

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Quote Originally Posted by Niall Warry View Post
By any analysis this is no major breakthrough for EUKIP – if only it was.

Wrong.

218000 people have voted UKIP in this year’s local elections compared with 98000 in 2008.

136 UKIP candidates finished in 2nd place.

50 UKIP candidates scored 25%+ of the vote.

UKIP took 7 council seats in England and 2 council seats in Wales.

A summary which were it to have ANY meaning would also point out that of 4,987 seats UKIP fielded only some 700 candidates of whom a mere 9 were elected in the whole of these United Kingdoms leaving some 650 also rans of absolutely no relevance or status.

In the London Mayoral contest UKIP achieved UNDER 2% coming 6th. and similarly in the Liverpool Mayoral contest UKIP was an embarrassing 2%.

One has to wonder at the sanity of the self styled ImWithUKIP spokes person that can make such a fool opf themselves as to try to pretend UKIP did well under the leadership of the clearly unprofessional, divisive, implausible entertainer Nigel Farage and his low grade team of praise singers and parasites rewarded by or on the promise of reward from the public purse!

Little wonder that ImWithUKIP and the many parasites like him, her or it they are too ashamed to put their names to their rank idiocy!

This blog & Junius predicted more or less exactly what a catastrophic result Farage’s UKIP was likely to achieve but I do concede that I did not believe tjhat UKIP would have quite such a catastrophic result at a time when almost every aspect favoured them for a better result than 9 out of 4,987 seats!

Consider my recent Tweets & Re-Tweets:

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Nigel Farage, the philandering drunk who has been convicted of misusing party funds, should now quit as UKIP leader after disastrous night.

Retweeted by Greg_Lance-Watkins

In the country formerly known as Great Britain,the role of local councils is primarily to implement European Union directives. Remember that

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Ken Livingstone believes crime is committed by ‘poverty’ rather than criminals, and has supported the dismantling of traditional policing.

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Good riddance to Ken Livingstone. He’s a thoroughly nasty piece of work who plays off one section of the community against others

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Farage’s candidate Lawrence Webb came an embarrassing 5th. with LESS THAN 2% in London Mayoral vote – another catastrophy for Farage’s UKIP!

Mick McGough with a record as a proven liar & cheat demeaned UKIP by standing and coming 5th – beaten by LibLabCon AND Greens – Catastrophic

Bent & Narrow find 2 more ballot boxes to count – sounds like when Labour rigged the Devolution vote in Wales! Check the hand writing!!

Well done Meridan Residents gaining a voice on their council to oppose abuse of planning law by so called travellers squatting unlawfully.

Today The BNP with its vile racism, squabbling & odious behaviour is finished as a credible political force. CAVEAT this COULD be UKIP soon

These delayed counts are Britain in microcosm: everything is designed around the convenience of the state bureaucracy.

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Breast cancer is rare in men, but they fare worse than women: http://apne.ws/J4SFV4 -AB

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WCentral London voted UKIP 5th with 3.5% with Greens on 8.7% in 3rd – Yet anot6her Farage catastophy in his unprofessional & dishonest UKIP!

SW London sees UKIP 5th with under half of Green’s vote on 4.9%. Can only be described as catastrophic for Farage’s UKIP after 20 years!

NE London Paul Wiffen for UKIP polled 3.5% for 5th trailing LibLabCon AND Greens on 15.5% Another catastrophic vote for Farage’s UKIP!

Merton & Wandsworth UKIP trails 5th with 2.4% yet another catastrophic result in Farage’s UKIP!

Lambeth & Southwark: UKIP 5th with 2.8% whilst Greens had 11.5% – Another catastrophy for Farage’s UKIP!

Havering & Redbridge: UKIP’s Lawrence Webb on 6.8% came 3rd – bodes ill for Mayoral position where he is currently on 2%! A UKIP catastrophy

Greenwich & Lewisham Farage’s protege Paul Oakley 3.8% came beaten by Greens, LibLabCon & People Before Profit – Another UKIP catastrophy!

Farage’s placement for UKIP Steven Woolfe 3% for 7th position beaten by BNP & Communities United Party + LibLabCon & Greens came 3rd!

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4,987 seats SNP 402, LibDim 393, Plaid 147, Greens 40 +11, Residents Assoc 21 +5, UKIP 9 +0, IC&HC +3, Respect +5 – UKIP vote on about 4%!!

UKIP are rightly so ashamed of their behaviour and candidates that in London they call themselves ‘Fresh Choice for London’ to avoid UKIP!!

The odious fool Kevin Mahoney won a UKIP seat which shows just how desperate UKIP’s plight is in Wales – They have not ONE credible voice!

UKIP Wales results a catastrophy with 2 seats out of 1023 available – Clearly UKIP had no credible candidates, an utter embarrassment.

EU style elected Mayors seemingly resoundingly rejected Now Birmingham voted NO2 this useless & costly additional EU functionary position!

UKIP trashed in Salford Mayoral race coming 17,000 votes behind No 2 in a poor third!

Will Andreasen, Batten, Dartmouth, Coleman, Clark, Agnew, Bufton be selected as Farage rewards toadies eg. Aldrich, Crowther, Hamilton etc.

UKIP currently on 2% in London Mayoral election & the liar McGough trailing last in Brent & Harrow – UKIP Nationally on their normal 5%

UKIP MEP breakaway group out to remove Farage after catastrophic results. Schedule London meeting but unlikely to have the guts for it!

Farage easily satisfied! Spinning to save his income! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17954290 of 4,987 seats UKIP has won 8 with LibDims on 315 UKIP 8th Place!

UKIP propaganda claims 3rd Part in Britain but LibDims are on 306 seats & UKIP 8! UKIP running at 8th. largest party by seats obtained!!

of 4,967 seats available so far UKIP has 8 has come an irrelevant 2nd. in just under 100 with about 200 seats yet to call!. Catastrophic!!

Greens 23 +5, Residents Assoc 13 +5, UKIP 8 +0, IC&HC +3, Respect +5 – UKIP vote up a few % but catastrophic number of seats won trailing LD

UKIP Catastrophically fulfills predicted results! http://wp.me/p2mfoQ-1×6

UKIP 7 seats +1, outstripped by Greens with 16 +3, Respect +5 & IC&HC +5. Clearly a disaster for UKIP with 7th. place in England & Wales!

UKIP lost seats & net gain of 1 so far mid term & Government takes a kicking but UKIP makes no significant gains under unprofessional leader

UKIP looks to have lived down to catastrophic predictions http://bit.ly/JETg38 so far ONE seat not the 100s needed gained 2.5% in Liverpool!

UKIP Might Care To Consider, in the light of their risible domestic election results http://bit.ly/JETg38

UKIP Expecting Catastrophic Domestic Election Results http://wp.me/p2mfoQ-1wJ

UKIP’s risible results today, as expected, should lead to MEPs of principle quitting The EFD & removing unprofessional leadership from UKIP

UKIP Sponsor states “A Kraut is a Kraut is a Kraut. And the only good Kraut is a dead Kraut” – Racism & religious race hate is endemic!

4,987 Seats up for election today with CLAIMED 10% support anything short of 498 won by UKIP will reflect their TRUE value! – LEAVE-THE-EU

UKIP openly soliciting protest vote having failed to sell their own message! http://bit.ly/IXf4na Only able to find 30% credible candidates!

UKIP scrabbling to back peddle on expectations today http://bit.ly/IXf4na their unprofessional & racist behaviour has failed to convince

EU Membership (Economic Implications) Bill’s Progress http://wp.me/p2mfoQ-1wE

I note Anthony Butcher’s UKIP controlled forum, all too williong to harbour defamation & lies FROM UKIP is censoring facts about UKIP!

First she came for the Homosexuals & now she has come for the Muslims! http://wp.me/p2mfoQ-1wm

UKIP Candidate Steve Moxon on Anders Breivik! http://wp.me/p2mfoQ-1wc

Steve Mason (formerly BNP) UKIP’s candidate for Orsett attacks UKIP’s rules http://bit.ly/IUokfa & UKIP is partners with racists in The EU!

Corruption in UKIP was endemic http://bit.ly/IrO1nf UKIP MEP Derek Clark’s lies & defamatory comments show it still is http://bit.ly/IHK3mg

Derek Clark UKIP MEP Disbands Committee to cover his lies! http://wp.me/p2mfoQ-1w1

More about UKIP dishonesty & corruption & the lies of Derek Clark UKIP MEP later on http://UKIP-vs-EUkip.com The source for proven FACTS on UKIP

Has Derek Clark UKIP MEP lied again to his Regional Committee, who have sacked him, to dishonestly stay on Gravy Train for personal gain?

Up early, due to Hospital check up! The explanation of Derek Clark UKIP MEP that ALL UKIP committees disbanded was unequivocal on UKIP Forum

Liar & crook Derek Clark UKIP MEP unable to justify his lies & fraud & announces ALL UKIP committees disbanded a week before Local Election!

Marta ANDREASEN Calls for Nigel FARAGE to Resign!! http://wp.me/p2mfoQ-1vR

Marta ANDREASEN’s Unlawfull Election by: Lynnda Robson http://wp.me/p2mfoQ-1vS

Aid worker killed in Pakistan – the Taliban are like most politicians, just self serving cowards abusing their position for financial gain

@TIME @TIMEHealthland You asked what type of Doctor makes the most money – I would contend the very most useless – A political spin doctor!

The iresponsibility of the unelected bureaucrats of The EU can ONLY be described as hubris at a criminal level http://bit.ly/JHyzkp

[Ticker] Tens of thousands protest in #Spain against austerity – http://euobserver.com/1016/116078

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Standard & Poor’s lowers credit rating on 16 Spanish banks – @cnbc http://bit.ly/INt8mq

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If UKIP was a professional party they would ensure Derek Clark MEP had the integrity to resign TODAY & Farage would consider his position!

Derek Clark UKIP MEP should resign TODAY having been proven to lie to the electorate & defamed those who told the truth about his dishonesty

Derek Clark UKIP MEP should have the integrity to stand down TODAY having lied repeatedly to mislead the electorate & defamed individuals

Conservative Home Over Eggs the UKIP threat … http://wp.me/p2mfoQ-1vC

FACT, AFTER FACT, AFTER FACT all verifiable – all accurate all in my name identifiable as FACTS or retweeted by me in my name as FACTS and all show why UKIP is clearly and undeniably unfit for purpose to represent the interests of these United Kingdoms and the cause of Leave-The-EU under its present leadership and befouled by the claque of self serving parasites gathered around them.
To quote Oliver Cromwell Addressing the rump parliament. April 1653:
“you have been sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, i say, and let us have done with you. In the name of god, go!.”

Words so very apposite when considering UKIP’s present leadership clique, its claque and its parasites!

Regards,

Greg_L-W.

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UKIP Catastrophically fulfills predicted results!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/05/2012

UKIP Catastrophically fulfills predicted results!
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is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  

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UKIP Catastrophically fulfills predicted Local Election results!!!

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Hi,
unfortunately it would seem UKIP is living down to my VERY clear predictions made before the election CLICK HERE

You may wish to consider my recent TWEETS:

Tweets

UKIP 7 seats +1, outstripped by Greens with 16 +3, Respect +5 & IC&HC +5. Clearly a disaster for UKIP with 7th. place in England & Wales!

UKIP lost seats & net gain of 1 so far mid term & Government takes a kicking but UKIP makes no significant gains under unprofessional leader

UKIP looks to have lived down to catastrophic predictions http://bit.ly/JETg38 so far ONE seat not the 100s needed gained 2.5% in Liverpool!

UKIP Might Care To Consider, in the light of their risible domestic election results http://bit.ly/JETg38

UKIP Expecting Catastrophic Domestic Election Results http://wp.me/p2mfoQ-1wJ

UKIP’s risible results today, as expected, should lead to MEPs of principle quitting The EFD & removing unprofessional leadership from UKIP

UKIP Sponsor states “A Kraut is a Kraut is a Kraut. And the only good Kraut is a dead Kraut” – Racism & religious race hate is endemic!

4,987 Seats up for election today with CLAIMED 10% support anything short of 498 won by UKIP will reflect their TRUE value! – LEAVE-THE-EU

UKIP openly soliciting protest vote having failed to sell their own message! http://bit.ly/IXf4na Only able to find 30% credible candidates!

UKIP scrabbling to back peddle on expectations today http://bit.ly/IXf4na their unprofessional & racist behaviour has failed to convince

A Sad Reflection On UKIP!

The tragedy is that after 20 years, UKIP is running in 7th. position in terms of seats won in England & Wales and still with not the slightest glimmer of hope of a Westminster seat on the horizon!

The Scottish results are as yet not available but it is unlikely that UKIP will be even noticeable and the Scottish result will further highlight the rejection by the electorate of these United Kingdoms.

To be fair UKIP will bleat that the turnout was low with around 32% so far but that in fact would be expected to help such a party!

Yes we need and want a referendum – YES the public wish to Leave-The-EU by a majority and yes a huge majority want to remove our political and economic control by the malign and corrupt EU.

Sadly, just as when the traitor Heath signed the warrant for the death of these United Kingdoms and the new vassal status any current referendum on the subject would be similarly fiddled!

I do NOT believe that the Leave-The-EU cause would win a referendum as the EU would pour huge amounts of OUR money into propaganda, spin and lies to ensure their Milch Cow staid in THEIR barn!

Consider the undeniable FACT that The EU does not have a Democratic Defecit it has NO meaningful democracy, spends £Billions each year on propaganda and has the largest Civil Service in the world with armies of self serving unelected bureaucrats endlessly t6ightening the rachets of strangulation of ‘Self Determination’ of its vassal regions and enthralled peoples.

An IN/OUT referendum would be lost by the people who clearly want to Leave-The-EU – The EU has NO democratic mandate and openly advocates a ‘Post Democratic style of governance’!

Let us not be confused – The EU is NOT our enemy, The EU has published every step of the way in its social engineering experiment openly stating its aim to be an Empire of voluntary member regions (formerly independent states!).

OUR ENEMY is without a doubt OUR enemy within:
The armies of Civil Servants in the UK, who now work for the EU implementing EU diktat, the banks working to control our economy for alien gain.
The water companies with their largely invented scares and crises (try fixing the leaks, introducing a National grid and building resevoirs to cope with increased population & needs), which are increasingly foreign owned.
Our power industry which is also mainly foreign owned.
Now we are tendering our roads,
having lost our fisheries to alien control –

When last did a credible politician of any gravitas or stature stand up for the peoples of these United Kingdoms? – don’t say Thatcher, she traded off our CAP income for a showy settlement at Bruges and never once voted to block EU legislation or increased undemocratic profligacy. Thatcher admitted that she never understood The EU as did Norman Tebbitt until long after he left office!

When last did UKIP take any credible stand on a referendum and in fact the only credible stand has been that of Nikki Sinclaire, who UKIP have done all in their power to hinder, harm, defame and lie about!

UKIP will try to make much of Jon Gaunt’s efforts as if they were a party to them yet it will be noticed that Jon Gaunt’s efforts to find himself a job have been a lamentable failure and I understand that shortly before being resoundingly rejected as a prospective Mayor on his home territory in Coventry he was removed from the EUreferendum Campaign he was trying to run!

Can we expect him next to pop up as a UKIP candidate placed high on an MEP list in the misguided hope he will, as an entertainer, replicate the much over estimated so called ‘Kilroy-Silk effect’!

When last did we have a British politician acting in Britain’s interests?

Yes, Farage puts up a good show but as a showman he may well be popular but one need only look at the number of seats won to realise entertainers and showmen carry no weight!

Of the 4,987 seats up for election yesterday so far UKIP have 7!

With one gain so far UKIP remind us that one swallow does not a summer make and although Galloway described his result as ‘The Bradford Spring’ – surely no one can see 7 seats won so far as ‘A UKIP Spring’ or an endorsement of Farage and his unprofessional and largely divisive leadership of HIS party!

I do however appreciate that discontent as the Tory Party may be with Cameron & his set, The Tories have the same plight as Labour lacking any credible alternative to a hugely un-credible leader!

Let’s face it the public may well have increased UKIP vote by using them as a dustbin to show their opprobrium for the politicians of any expectation but on a 32% turnout it is clear that the electorate hold ALL politicians in contempt and at such a stage in the cycle that UKIP have only gained 7 seats is nothing more than a catastrophic embarrassment for them – however they try to spin it or whatever left wing spin The BBC put on it!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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UKIP Expecting Catastrophic Domestic Election Results

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/05/2012

UKIP Expecting Catastrophic Domestic Election Results
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
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is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  

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Despite their lies, propaganda, abuse, bullying & unprofessionalism being transparent some UKIP Muppets & wannabes are still pedling expectations of huge success in British elections today!

More intelligent UKIP members with some political sense are Expecting Catastrophic Domestic Election Results!

What then? UKIP thus having shown that even after 20 years they are unfit for purposwe with their present style & standards!

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Hi,

on the day of the local elections where 4,987 seats are up for election across Britain and over 150 are unopposed the results will be a very major make or break indication for UKIP.Clearly they would need to make significant gains in seats won to have ANY credible future as a political party and I do NOT mean parish and village Councils – I believe it is essential, if UKIP is to survive that they will gain at least 400 meaningful seats at County, District or EU Assembly at very least and less than 100 such seats would suggest they have been rumbled by the British Public.

I note already UKIP is publishing spin to excuse a dismal outcome making much of they could only find candidates for 30% of the seats and many of them are joke candidates or at best paper candidates See The BBC CLICK HERE

Then we note one of The UKIP sponsors has gained outrageous publicity in The Daily Mail stating:
A Kraut is a Kraut is a Kraut. And the only good Kraut is a dead Kraut.”
CLICK HEREI appreciate he is elderly and this COULD be attributed to some form of embittered senility but equally so could his support for UKIP. Is he just a pleasant old gentleman who has been duped into putting his name to support of UKIP much as Bertrand Russell’s peccadilloes (hopes!) led him to support the idiotic CND movement that has so damaged Nuclear research and can be directly blamed for Fukushima!

Additionally Gerard Batten’s extremist seeming incitement to racial hatred based on his personal fears & superstitions CLICK HEREThen we have the ill considered comments of Steve Moxon CLICK HERE

The odious comments of their former PPC now standing in Oxford CLICK HERE

The unfortunate publicity of UKIP’s exploitation of The EU propaganda expenses (tax payers’ money) for booze fuelled jollies for their Yoof Division (which I understand has under 100 members! See their forum which is a virtual vacuum when it comes to comments!) details of their Booze Jollies can be seen in The Mirror CLICK HERE

Roger Helmer’s outspoken and injudicious rhetorical question ‘Will Gay Marriage lead to incest’?

The odious outburst of the award winning Zionist: clap trap from Malcolm Lord Pearson whilst UKIP leader that was founded on race hate based on religion so comprehensively exposed by The News of The World (Little wonder politicians did all they could to silence the ONE paper with an exemplary track record of exposing Political cant and hypocricy – together with Rupert Murdoch’s other media enterprises!)

Then there were the outright lies of Pearson aided by the much passed over ex Tory MP Christopher Gill who as UKIP executives happily lied and defamed Nikki Sinclaire for having denounced The EFD Group and its racist, anti jewish, aggressively pro EU membership stance of reform rather than withdrawal (so very Catholic 😉 !!

Then we have the idiotic so called Press Officer and spokesman for UKIP in London burning a picture of an opponent – revolting as that may be as it is seen, largely as a result of such burnings in less civilised Countries, to be a symbolic killing of the individual – a stupidity of even greater proportions where of those who have even heard of Brian Paddick probably their only knowledge of him is that he has openly stated he is a pervert and practices as an homosexual, which is a perfectly legitimate practice in our Country.

How stupid can UKIP be?

The clear abuse of UKIP’s own rules when it suits its dictatorial and unprofessional leadership with the selection of Steve Mason as an ex member of the sordid racist BNP as a candidate. However he tried to justify himself CLICK HERE the rules clearly state that no ex member of the BNP may join as a member as with the UKFirstParty

SO WHAT SHOULD UKIP DO
WHEN THE RESULTS COME IN?

Personally I believe there is little chance of cleaning-up UKIP with any meaningful possibility they could become fit for purpose to have a domestic credibility to Leave-The-EU – but as they are the ONLY Party that even mumbles about a desire to Leave-The-EU however implausibly when compared with their unprofessional antics; let us keep trying until something better comes along!

Perhaps that something else could be ‘REFER-ism

So what should UKIP do in the light of catastrophic results yet again when UKIP’s own leadership are clearly expecting a poor outcome as Nigel Farage’s comments to the BBC show.

We note UKIP are downplaying their own status, wisely! We note they claim they expect votes for them to be based upon protest against the Political Parties and Politicians – so even UKIP leadership clearly see themse3lves as little more than a dustbin for all but spoiled papers, seemingly attracting few votes ion their own right based upon THEIR abilities, values and leadership!

Clearly the spin to be expected will be along the lines of ‘never mind the quality feel the width’ when UKIP fails to make appreciable gains in elected seats – however it is ONLY seats that count!
Many will know of Jesse Owen’s glorious win in the 100 yards and his Gold Medal in the 1936 Olympics, The black man from America who so embarrassed and angered Adolph Hitler but few if any will remember, without looking it up, who came second nor that Jesse Owen gained gold for breaking the long jump world record and also 2 further gold medals for his first place in a 200 yard (meter?) dash with a bend and 1st. place in the 400 meter (yard?) relay!
I suggest a meeting of UKIP Patriots should be held chaired by the ONLY UKIP MEP of any credible stance having QUIT the vile EFD Group and NOT supporting the leadership by the unprofessional and clearly incompetent (Judge by the results) over many years.

Let us not forget the last election where UKIP had ANY material success was based upon Nigel Farage’s dishonest orchestrating of his own version of The Reichstag Fire having staged his own version of Crystal Nacht where he invented and played out a completely spurious claim of major infiltration of the party by The BNP and used it to remove the two leading lights, some might say ONLY, honest individuals of any independent stature on The NEC Dr. Eric Edmond and Dr. David Abbott and subsequently Del Young all of whom were willing to stand up to Nigel Farage and seek adult politics and probity in accounting – both of which Farage has energetically blocked over many years resulting in the rotten stench of corruption in UKIP propped up by those without ethics, integrity or morality in return for personal reward.

Let us see Nikki Sinclaire MEP call together those who might wish to act with a modicum of integrity such as Marta Andreasen (though her track record of integrity stinks CLICK HERE), Mike Nattrass who has resigned from The EFD and has just recently openly denounced Farage’s inept and corrupt leadership CLICK HERE

Perhaps, weak, dishonest, corrupt and hopelessly inept as he is we might also see Trevor Colman in support as although he has renounced EFD membership and promised to join the UKFirstParty he still clearly supports the current leadership of UKIP having failed to openly denounce their corruption just as he was brought in by Roger Knapman to try to orchestrate a cover-up of Tom Wise’s criminality as a UKIP MEP. Let us hope he has developed a spine with his new found wealth!

The grouping is far from ideal but were these individuals to make a start and jointly renounce membership of The Vile EFD and make public the scams that Nigel Farage’s leadership are embroiled in they MIGHT manage to effect a clean-up of UKIP and rid them of their parasites both on the staff and in office

Only such a clean sweep would have any meaning and stand ANY chance of creating a UKIP fit for purpose.

Let us hope the risible results give courage to those who might vacillate!

There is STILL a small window of opportunity for New UKIP to be formed but unless it happens they will remain corrupt, corrupted and unfit for purpose – sadly after so many years of coexisting in the septic tank almost all of UKIP’s upper echelons are tainted by the same stench of corruption having turned so many blind eyes as to be blinded to integrity themselves!

Let us hope out of defeat comes courage by those who were led to defeat!

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EU Membership (Economic Implications) Bill’s Progress

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although UKIP have NEVER put forward any kind of structured way to Leave-The-EU and have never had open discussion of or have published any kind of ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ it does rather give the impression that UKIP has nothing more than a lip service interest in trying to Leave-The-EU!

Failure to actually put forward an ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ nor put in place meaningful training nor clear explanation of the benefits of actually achieving the aim to Leave-the-EU in their 20 years does rather explain why they have proved so utterly irrelevant with so few seats won by election out of the 19,500 available in governance in Britain!

The ONE step in the right direction and arguably the only one of any consequence has been the effort to force through Parliament a Bill analysing the cost/benefits of membership of The EU – The progress of which so far is:

Sitting: 03/02/2012
Mon, 06 Feb 2012 06:29:17 -0600

European Union Membership (Economic Implications) Bill [HL]: House of Commons 2nd reading


Provisional Sitting: 03/02/2012
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European Union Membership (Economic Implications) Bill [HL]: House of Commons 2nd reading


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Provisional Sitting: 20/01/2012
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Sitting: 10/01/2012
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European Union Membership (Economic Implications) Bill [HL]: House of Commons 1st reading


Publication: 1st reading
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European Union Membership (Economic Implications) Bill [HL]: House of Commons 1st reading


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First she came for the Homosexuals & now she has come for the Muslims!

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First Dr. Julia GASPER came for the Homosexuals & now she has come for the Muslims In The Name of UKIP!!
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minded that it was only yesterday that I wrote of the snti homosexual stance of UKIP and particularly one of its election candidates:
Dr Gasper is running for a seat on Oxford City CouncilDr Gasper is running for a seat on Oxford City Council

A former UKIP parliamentary candidate and current Oxford City Council hopeful has said people who ‘choose’ to be gay should stop ‘complaining about persecution’ and start thanking straight people for giving birth to them.
To view the original article CLICK HERE

Now we have this same woman further embarrassing UKIP as clearly she is endorsed by the leadership in view of the fact that she has been a UKIP MP hopeful candidate and is quite a long term supporter and candidate for UKIP!

UKIP candidate: ‘Koran is worse than Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf’

4:18pm Tue May 1st

A candidate for UKIP has compared Islam’s holiest book to Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf, Political Scrapbook can reveal. Academic Julia Gasper — a former Westminster hopeful and current council candidate in Oxford – said the Koran was “fascist” and compared those who defend Islam to holocaust deniers.

In emails seen by Scrapbook, Gasper ranted:

“Why is it any more wrong to assert that the Koran is a fascist book than to assert that Mein Kampf is a fascist book? The Koran is a lot more explicit in advocating hate and murder than Mein Kampf is.”

Having dismissed comparisons between sections of the Koran and the Old Testament as “not valid”, Gasper responded to suggestions that her hateful bile was demonising Muslims:

“Words like “demonization” are just self-deception. They are being used to persuade you to keep your eyes shut. In fact, the apologists for Islam are really very similiar to Holocaust deniers.”

To compound matters, the rant comes to light as another UKIP candidate is suspended for expressing sympathies with Norwegian mass-murder Anders Breivik – and just days after Julia Gasper herself was slammed for saying gays should stop ‘complaining about persecution’ and start thanking straight people for giving birth to them.

Looks like they’ll be making that a double suspension then.

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Clearly UKIP are trying their best to get the votes of people of faith whose chosen superstition is based upon The Qoran having tried her bit to gain the homosexual vote recently!!

Interestingly it is during this pre local election period that a Tory turncoat councillor now supposedly supporting UKIP has spoken out to advocate witholding the vote from the unemployed and has found favour with some in UKIP such as another Tory turncoat Alexandra Swann who is in the employ of the plastic EUroSceptic Roger Helmer who also jumped ship from the Tories facing deselection!

So that is Muslims, homosexuals and the unemployed alienated in the last few days – who next Nuns, Nurses and non Caucasians!

Sad isn’t it to watch the collapse of a party in any ethical or moral terms – could it be claimed looking at the incredibly low calliber they are increasingly attracting and the unprincipled shower they have in the leadership clique and its claque – Could it be UKIP policy, not just to lie to stay on the Gravy Train, but to throw ethical principles and morality out of the window to prostitute the standards of the party to gain votes by pandering to the lowest views available in any gutter!

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UKIP Candidate Steve Moxon on Anders Breivik!

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better informed followers of UKIP will be aware their partners in The EU offered tacit support to Anders Breivik and UKIP took absolutely zero meaningfull action to censure those supporting the beliefs of Breivik.There is a particularly nasty streak of racism in UKIP that leads them to be happy to associate with the members of The EFD Group in The EU – the type of racism so often sheltered in bigotry and superstition that leads to material carefully couched on the edge, possibly within the law but clearly beryond the pale, that would seem to incite racial hatred as with tracts like that of Gerard Batten’s http://bit.ly/IlFfEX
Further endorsement of Anders Breivik would seem to be clear in the following article from a UKIP candidate for election:

Anders Breivik and his manifesto: a great deal of nonsense has been written

A great deal of nonsense has been written about Anders Breivik, the man who ruthlessly attacked the ruling Norwegian Labour Party.
That pretty well everyone – myself not excluded – recoiled at his actions, does not belie the accuracy of Breivik’s research and analysis in his ‘manifesto’, which is in line with most scholarship in respect of both PC and Islam.
It is clear that the mass of ordinary people are considered with utter contempt by the government-media-education uber-class across the Western world; this as the result of ‘cultural Marxism’. So we are, in effect, ‘at war’ within our societies over PC, as Breivik claims.
And Islam seems not to be a benign religion that is toxic only to the extent that some have adopted a veneer of Western revolutionary thinking after Marx to produce a fundamentalism. Breivik makes an exhaustively detailed convincing case that the problem is inherent in the core of the religion itself and how it is interpreted generally; contrary to what I have previously understood (until recent reading of scholars had already set me along these lines).

It is not through any Christian religiosity that Breivik arrives at his position: he is not in any way a practising Christian, let alone a Christian fundamentalist as has been claimed — or, rather, guessed. But it is when he gets on to Christianity in his ‘manifesto’ that Breivik’s thesis seems to me perhaps to be weak.
A Christian based governance is inherently “serving” and therefore not as corruptible as other forms, Breivik argues. But what about the evidence from history – and, yes, this is a long time ago, granted – of the corrupt payments for ‘indulgences’? He says that whereas “Liberal modernity” is down to “a God of Mammon” and Islam is “the will of God in Sharia”; with Christianity “the government is first accountable to the revealed will of God”. Well, isn’t this just any projection those in power care to think up? Looking at our own Christian leaders, currently this seems to be PC.
Christianity has to rise again, Breivik hopes: presumably he thinks (correctly) that religion in some form is inevitable, so that rather than the humanism that simply substituted mankind for God to beget Marxism, we’d be better off with the status quo ante. This is similar to the positions of Franco and Hirohito, who sought not the revolutionary overthrow of elites in the interests of the masses — as would Marxists and their very close brothers the fascists – but merely to bolster fading national religions (Catholicism and Shintoism) and monarchies. Yet is it not something more than mere optimism to expect that some return to rationality will replace PC-fascism after it implodes?

As for his take on the gender [sic] aspect of PC, it may be that Breivik was influenced by his immediate family background. He had a relationship with his family members, excepting his father, who left the family when Anders was aged just one. He always maintained full contact with his mother, notwithstanding lamenting what he regarded as her promiscuity. This Breivik blames on the moral relaxing that attended PC, though it seems more likely that this was an association rather than that PC was the major causal factor (PC in any case not being a significant presence at this time). Surely it was instead down to the advent in the 1960s of near-infallible contraception, which relieved men of the obligation to enter ‘shotgun marriage’. [This is the basis of the ‘great disruption’, as Francis Fukuyama terms the social change Breivik bemoans.]
It may be that his early experiences and how he reviewed them in later life are a critical part of Breivik’s motivation to move from what is a worthy analysis to the sort of violence few would contemplate (at least seriously), let alone carry out. Maybe we will get to know in time, after the wild speculations have evaporated and a more dispassionate focus comes to bear.

A loner Breivik appears not to be: he had friends. There is no evidence that Breivik is insane or even psychopathic: his calmness during the attack does not mean that he would be indifferent to people in other situations. He’s intelligent, well-educated, and very capable of clear thought – though whether or not he ‘over-thought’ regarding strategy is another question. Though his actions may turn out to be counter-productive, at least for now he’s succeeded more than anyone else in prompting a very widespread focus on the major problem that is PC. That can hardly be denied.
# posted by Steve Moxon @ 12:06 PM
To view the original post CLICK HEREMaterial covered by The BBC as follows:
1 May 2012 Last updated at 18:59

Sheffield UKIP candidate removed over Breivik blog post

Steve Moxon Mr Moxon was sacked from his job as a civil servant in 2004

A man who was due to stand in Sheffield’s local elections for UKIP has been stripped of the candidacy over comments made on his blog.

Steve Moxon, a former government whistle-blower, is standing in the Dore and Totley ward.

On his blog he said Norwegian killer Anders Breivik’s thesis on Islam and political correctness was accurate.

Mr Moxon said he “resolutely does not agree with” his crimes. UKIP said his comments were at odds with its policy.

Breivik, 33, killed 77 people in Norway last July. He is currently on trial accused of terrorism and mass murder.

Mr Moxon, a former civil servant, first came to prominence in 2004 when he made claims that key checks were waived by immigration staff in Sheffield to make the numbers coming to Britain seem less dramatic when the EU expanded.

He told BBC Radio Sheffield he had been “amicably” removed as a candidate but remained a member of UKIP.

He said: “I would stress that I do not in any way agree with Anders Breivik’s actions.

“In the unlikely event I get elected I guess I would be an independent at least for a while.”

In a statement, UKIP said: “We note that Steve Moxon has not condoned the actions of the maniac Breivik.

“However, he has made a number of remarks on subjects such as the Breivik manifesto and Islam that are at odds with UKIP policy and perspective.”

Mr Moxon posted the comments on his blog last August. UKIP said it was unaware of the remarks when it selected him as a candidate, as it would have taken an “inordinate amount of time” to read everything written by prospective candidates during the vetting procedure.

The remaining candidates contesting the Dore and Totley seat are Hafeas Rehman for Labour, Liberal Democrat Colin Ross, Conservative Anne Smith and Rita Wilcock from the Green party.

View the original article at CLICK HEREIt is not just that UKIP attracts racists and intolerant bigots but it can not be denied that they exploit this and have allied themselves with others iof like mind in the EFD Group – who are also increasingly emualted by UKIP in that increasingly UKIP leadership performs as ‘REFORMERS’ rather than withdrawalists relative to the EU. Hardly surprising as most members of The EFD are very pro membership of  the EU!

During the evening Moxon published a denunciation of Jonathan Arnott’s official stated position on this issue, which can be read on his blog and it seems he intends to stand against UKIP as an Independent candidate!

It is just these amateur hour squabbles within UKIP fuelled by lies, distortions and greed omn tjhe part of its own crass leadership teqam and their unprofessional staff that show that UKIP is utterly unfit for purpose.Here is Moxon’s self justification on his own blog:

Tuesday, May 01, 2012

On happily being suspended as a UKIP candidate

This is just to state that I am quite happy with the decision to suspend my candidature; this being because of the usual numptie misrepresentation of position by media that UKIP Party Chairman Steve Crowther understandably thought might ensue and thereby represent a threat to UKIP chances in Thursday’s elections in London.
This follows usual Party-politically-motivated bigoted wild misrepresentation and ignorance by a minority on local discussion boards re a blog post here (below) way back in August last year, which I had written on the topic of the wild nonsense written about Anders Breivik.
In that post — and in all posts I have made on the subject of Breivik, to such as Psychology Today — I stressed that Breivik’s actions were clearly appalling and insupportable, but that the scholarship on the origin and development of ‘political correctness’ fascism (and that is an accurate application of that term) is fully in line with what Breivik wrote in his ‘manifesto’.
I am myself published in a science journal on the origin and development of ‘PC’, and of how this has created serious misrepresentation of data and analysis in the topic of intimate-partner violence.
The statement put out by the UKIP Sheffield and National Organiser, Jonathan Arnott, is, however, not as Jonathan read to and agreed with me.
Jonathan stated to me that the issues were “outside the orbit” of the party’s politics.
That is very different to “remarks … at odds with UKIP policy”.
UKIP has no disagreement with me on anything, so far as I’m aware; and certainly no disagreement on any topic has been put to me.
The Party hardly could have such a disagreement unless it wants to disagree with the weight of published scholarship, and clearly it is hardly likely to engage in such illogical foolishness; and the Party is determinedly anti-PC in any case.

# posted by Steve Moxon

ADDITIONAL MATERIAL ADDED:

Sheffield UKIP candidate sacked over Breivik comments

Former Home Office whistleblower Steve Moxon, who triggered a ministerial resignation in 2004, will stay on ballot as an independent

Beverley Hughes

Beverley Hughes whose resignation as immigration minister followed Moxon’s leaking of data on waived checks in 2004. Photograph: Martin Argles/Guardian

Here’s an interesting twist in the career of Steve Moxon, who made headlines in 2004 as the ‘Home Office whistleblower’ who revealed confidential details over immigration checks being waived.

The row which involved applicants for entry from eastern European countries which were on the threshold of joining the EU at the time, led to the resignation of the junior Home Office minister Beverley Hughes.

Moxon was feted for a time, but many of his initial sympathisers such as Michael Howard and David Davis backed off rapidly after revelations of his extreme view and the publication of his book The Great Immigration Scandal. This went well beyond revelations from the world of Sir Humphrey; its take on immigration more widely was described by Simon Wolley of Operation Black Vote as “a poisonous rant.”

Ukip's 2010 election poster 'sod the lot'.Ukip poster from the 2010 general election . Photograph: Ukip/PAMoxon’s opinions have now cost him his place as UKIP’s candidate in Sheffield‘s local elections, where he is standing for the Dore and Totley ward, a Liberal Democrat stronghold in Nick Clegg’s constituency. The party has dropped him after attention was drawn to a post he wrote on his blog last August which endorsed the reasoning in the testament of the Norwegian mass-murderer Anders Breivik.

He wrote, inter alia:

That pretty well everyone – myself not excluded – recoiled at his actions, does not belie the accuracy of Breivik’s research and analysis in his ‘manifesto’, which is in line with most scholarship in respect of both Political Correctness and Islam.

It is clear that the mass of ordinary people are considered with utter contempt by the government-media-education uber-class across the Western world; this as the result of ‘cultural Marxism’. So we are, in effect, ‘at war’ within our societies over PC, as Breivik claims.

Moxon has repeated this week that he rejects Breivik’s terrible actions, but his inability to understand that approval of the killer’s analysis, whose publicising and promotion from obscurity appears to have been the purpose of the murders, is too much for UKIP. Suspending his candidature, the party says:

We note that Steve Moxon has not condoned the actions of the maniac Breivik. However, he has made a number of remarks on subjects such as the Breivik manifesto and Islam that are at odds with UKIP policy and perspective.

Moxon will stay on the ballot paper as an independent. He told BBC Radio Sheffield that he remained a member of UKIP but:

In the unlikely event I get elected, I guess I would be an independent at least for a while.

The other candidates for Dore and Totley are Hafeas Rehman (Labour), Colin Ross (Liberal Democrat), Anne Smith (Conservative) and Rita Wilcock (Green)

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Derek Clark UKIP MEP Disbands Committee to cover his lies!

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Hi,due to a hospital visit today I was up fairly early and had given my various builders, gardners and decorators the day off, so that Lee could enjoy the house in peace!!This gave me the opportunity to read the internet early – The UKIP Forum was interesting and clearly fat boy slim of Sheffield had not donned his shell suit to go to work censoring posts as yet – Thus this post remained, though I’ve not bothered since I’ve been home to check if it has been removed – as have been all the postings regarding the liar and fraudster Derek Clark and his having lied to members, his regional committee, the electorate and the media regarding the money he was ORDERED to repay having fraudulently obtained tax payers money and spent it on staff to get himself re-selected (In the gift of the new Party Dictator under HIS new Constitution) and thus abusing the public purse for personal political gain.

Here is the post from UKIP’s next in line as MEP who would replace the sleaze ridden Derek Clark if he had the integrity to resign.

Chris Paine wrote:

East Midlands Regional Committee
Monday 30th of April:


I went even though I was suffering with a bad man Flu (a sniffle!) which for me is 6 and a half hours night out, straight from work, no food to the UKIP meeting, only to be told that all regional committee’s are no longer in situ through out the country and their chairman and voting members have to be re-selected and until that point they no longer hold office.
I have no problem with re-selection, though this means in the week of council elections we have not got valid committee’s, but I have serious problems with our MEP Derek Clark wasting the other committee members night and my own! Derek had composed this letter on the 12th of April, but did not have the decency or common sense to inform anyone.

At worst we could have been campaigning for UKIP to push us forward for Thursdays elections.

Obviously Derek did not like the fact that he was no longer able to be chairman and was not prepared to answer why he lied to the UKIP regional committee about his OLAF investigation and it’s findings!

It’s nights like this that question the hard work, effort and money we all put into UKIP.

The thing that highlights the stupidity of the situation is that it will be the same people that are selected, because they were selected by each counties branch chairmen.

In the morning, I will ask myself why have I put some much time and effort into something, for something as wrong as this to happen.

Perhaps other UKIP members will inform me what their views are on this.

This reveals just what unprincipled self enriching and self serving pond life UKIP has attracted and kept in its leadership team and the muppets, puppets and political trash that are their claque.No one can claim this behaviour by a long standing Gravy Trainer like Derek Clark, which has clearly been endorsed by Nigel Farage and his brain cell Steve Crowther, and of course Nigel Farage’s PR guru the more than somewhat unstable thief, liar and liability the clearly over paid Annabelle Fuller – HOW can these fools believe the British peoples should vote for such unprofessional corrupt and dishonest rabble – endlessly squabbling for position and personal gain and willing to tell any lie that keeps them feeding from the troughs on the gravy train!

Derek Clark even hoped to dupe his regional committee into believing this blog & Junius would sully their reputations to lie and invent reports of his fraud and dishonesty – Do not forget this slime Derek Clark was the odious individual who colluded with the morally bankrupt Gerard Batten and Douglas Denny to orchestrate a kangaroo court to oust Peter Baker to make way for their controlled puppet – based on trumped up claims of evidence and refusal to permit witnesses who proved they were telling lies – several years ago!Leopards do Not change their spots and Derek Clark is no exception to that rule!

You may also note the information was also viewed by Junius CLICK HERE

I BELIEVE that yet again Derek Clark is telling lies to save his own sordid sleazy skin – Even UKIP leadership can not be so unprofessional as to disband EVERY Regional Committee just to hang onto one of its liars – it has more!

We are reasonably advised by several senior members of UKIP of long standing and good repute (yes there are a few!) that Derek Clark has lied to his Regional Committee – though we can be fairly certain that UKIP’s corrupt leadership will not renounce Derek Clark for his corruption and repeated dishonesty – Does he know too much about the scams to take the risk?

We KNOW Nigel Farage and others in his unprofessional self enriching and self serving leadership team and its claque are and have been all too willing to lie and cheat to enrich themselves on The Gravy Train or to get places on it!

It is the very clear and undeniable unprofessional lack of ethics and morality of UKIP leadership and its sock puppets that have ensured UKIP has achieved so very little in domestic politics and no actual results in moving these United Kingdoms to Leave-The-EU in 20 years, despite the well recorded popularity of the cause espoused by its grass roots rank and file members.

That UKIP leadership has consistently lied to its members and others to keep liars, cheats, fraudsters, thieves and other cowardly individuals on its team happy to lie and defame people to try to cover-up its offensive behaviour and cover for the crimes of its leadership!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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Marta ANDREASEN Calls for Nigel FARAGE to Resign!!

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Marta ANDREASEN Calls for Nigel FARAGE to Resign!!

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Marta ANDREASEN Calls for Nigel FARAGE to Resign!!

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The Court Judgement against Marta Andreasen in full can be viewed at CLICK HERE

That Marta Andreasen is clearly corrupt, blatantly dishonest and utterly discreditted has never been in contention – that EUkip have exploited her dishonesty seems obvious and that the liars, cheats and low lifes can expect reward as a part of The EU scam is clear for all to see!

Marta Andreasen is unfit as an MEP for these United Kingdoms and brings shame and contempt on the due process of EUkip’s own legally constituted rules and so called Constitution. It is

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Hi,

just so that this never slips from view!

Marta Andreasen VERY CLEARLY calls for Nigel Farage to resign!
Open letter. Why I am calling for Nigel’s resignation




Many in the party have argued for years that to be able to get out of
the EU we need to have a presence at national and local level in
addition to the one we have at European level.




In 2009 when UKIP came second in the European elections we all
celebrated and anticipated the start of a new era where the party would
grow to become a credible option not just at European Level but also at
national and local level.




I put a lot of effort into that election not only by travelling around
the country speaking in support of candidates but also by managing the
party coffers, a key role in a growing party, not least during election.
Complying with the electoral commission requirements and making ends
meet in UKIP proved to be a terribly difficult job as there was no
financial discipline.




However I stepped down as Treasurer at the end of September 2009 with
the enormous satisfaction that having paid all election and ordinary
debts, the party had 150,000 pounds in the bank. I managed this by an
enormous and exhausting control effort while also investing my time in
convincing donors about the credibility of the party.




However today the party is bankrupt and so it has been for the last six
months at least. The reasons are long but can roughly be summarized in
the following:




1. The party has engaged in costly and unnecessary court cases resulting
from Mr. Farage´s internal disagreements with colleagues or staff
members; 2. The party has engaged in the costly and unnecessary
promotion of by-elections where we had no chance at all of winning a
seat; 3. The party has recruited staff over and above its capacity.




The management of the resources that we get from the EU as a result of
our belonging to a political group is subject to the same abysmal
mismanagement characterized by undemocratic and non-transparent
recruitment decisions.




The results of the 2010 General election that followed Ukip’s great
success in the 2009 were disappointing to say the least but I have to
say my disappointment started when Nigel announced he was standing down
as leader 8 months before the General Election and with no advance
notice. Buckingham’s results left me in doubt about his strategic
ability, which up to that point I was convinced he had.




The results of this year, whatever the EU-style massaging of the
figures, are bad without doubt: winning only 0.7% of the seats contested
is a dismal result. And Nigel, who promised great success, should be
the first one to recognize this.




The candidates, the activists and the staff are not to blame. I value
their efforts enormously and in fact those who have succeeded have done
so only on their personal efforts and the ones who have not should not
feel they are to blame.




Campaigning, in my view, does not start two or three months before the
election. We should campaign all the time in different ways and
according to the contributions we are most fit to make. I have been
campaigning all the time since I have been with UKIP: raising awareness
about how taxpayers money is being wasted at EU level, alerting about
the threats the EU is posing for UK citizens and businesses, defending
British people from abuses, participating in financial and budgetary
forums, speaking at schools, universities, public meetings, in all cases
looking to get the best media coverage for the party. The aim of our
campaigning should be to show voters (present and potential) that we
care for them. Then the canvassing and leafleting in the last weeks
before election date would allow us to achieve the objective.




But all those efforts combined become diminished if there is no adequate
leadership, one who is credible and disciplined and who sets the
objectives and recruits responsible people on which he can delegate. And
this is what we are missing.




Nigel is a fantastic speaker and performer, the best I have ever known
in the UK but his performance has not resulted in seat gains in this
election and if we do not want to have the same results in 3 years time
we should start making changes NOW. Nigel was re-elected 6 months ago
but he was not a new comer, in fact he had only resigned from a 3-year
leadership one year before.




I want to see UKIP become an important political option in the UK and
lead the way out of the EU! That is why I have made this call.




I have no plan to stand as a candidate for leadership now or ever. I am
quite conscious that I do not have the profile. But I am confident we
can find the right profile among the membership.




Marta Andreasen


Strasbourg, 12 May 2011
  

This letter is all the more compelling as Marta Andreasen was very much a placement of Nigel Farage’s and he clearly fiddled the system to have her elected as shown if you view the Returning Officer’s Official Report & Condemnation’ of UKIP’s election methods and lies! CLICK HERE

I first published this material at the time and see: CLICK HERE

The letter itself was published on Marta Andreasen’s blog and I covered that and also the unprofessional behaviour of UKIP with its crass amateur statements and selective leaks – all of which showed just how unfit for ANY public office they were as a party!

There is also a section in The Returning Officer’s Official report on UKIP’s dishonesty & Corruption on the lies and cheating of Mick McGough who astonishingly is still found acceptable as one of the boot lickers and praise singers on the make and the take who is standing for UKIP as a candidate for the EU Regional Council for London and who is still found acceptable by the unprofessional and squalid leadership of UKIP as a wannabe MEP!

Cleqarly UKIP has no ethics, morality or self respect as it lies, cheats, defames and abuses anyone who dares to publish the truth about them or to whom they have any moral debts or owe money!

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Greg_L-W.
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Marta ANDREASEN’s Unlawfull Election by: Lynnda Robson

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Hi,In the light of a reminder on a UKIP controlled Forum, corruptly owned and managed by Anthony Butcher a parish councillor and wannabe in Long Ashton Bristol, I am reminded of the following details and MUCH more can be read about the discreditted Marta Andreasen at CLICK HERE .

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The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
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a bad name!

 

The Court Judgement against Marta Andreasen in full can be viewed at CLICK HERE

That Marta Andreasen is clearly corrupt, blatantly dishonest and utterly discredited has never been in contention – that EUkip have exploited her dishonesty seems obvious and that the liars, cheats and low lifes can expect reward as a part of The EU scam is clear for all to see!

Marta Andreasen is unfit as an MEP for these United Kingdoms and brings shame and contempt on the due process of EUkip’s own legally constituted rules and so called Constitution. It is clear that EUkip lack the moral compass to find their way home let alone lead anyone forward!

Hi,

let us not forget what Lynnda Robson of UKIP who worked for the odious Gerard Batten in his offices in London had to say about Marta Andreasen in the context of elections:

Lynnda Robson – aide to Gerard Batten MEP – warned Farage, Christopher Gill and the NEC. They ALL ignored her:

I am writing about numerous breaches of the Rules for Candidates by three
candidates in London. One of them is Ralph Atkinson, but I will not go
into details as I know Gerard Batten has already informed you about his
activities.The other two are Marta Andreassen and Tim Worstall who I
believe should be disqualified from this election. I am aware that Marta
has decided to run in SE Region but believe that she should be
disqualified in London and her votes reallocated since she was not
entitled to them.


This is quite a long email, I’m afraid, but there are an awful lot of rules being broken.

The reasons I believe they have both breached the rules are as follows:

1. Eligibility (external, under Electoral Commission Rules)

Under Section 4, Becoming a Candidate, of its European Parliamentary Election Rules, Elcom says that candidates must be:

Quote:

A British citizen…. or a citizen of another member state who is resident in the UK or Gibraltar during the nomination period.

Both
Marta and Tim are clearly not UK residents. When asked about this at
the London hustings Marta airily replied she was ‘addressing’ this
issue. Some people I spoke to afterwards interpreted this (possibly
cynically, but in the light of recent developments perhaps not) as
roughly meaning ‘ if I get a high place on the list I will find an
accommodation address in the UK for the minimum time necessary to meet
Elcom criteria’. Tim has apparently said he will move back to the UK
‘soon’. Seems odd since he is reportedly a tax exile who can only spend
183 days in the UK and he is building a house in Portugal for himself
and his family and they are currently all resident there.


Christopher
Gill’s response to this was that he had not bothered to consult Elcom
or check its rules as this was an internal election – unbelievable!


One
would hope that UKIP will not be a party to any breach of certainly the
spirit, if not the letter, of the Electoral Commission rules but
according to Christopher Gill: ‘At a later stage all candidates will of
course have to comply with whatever electoral legislation is then in
force or otherwise be disqualified from standing’ which seems to confirm
the cynics’ idea that an accommodation address will be found for them
for the minimum amount of time necessary.


2. Eligibility (internal, under UKIP rules)

Under
its constitution UKIP restricts full membership to UK citizens and
resident foreign nationals. It also requires its Parliamentary
candidates to be fully paid-up members in good standing.


Marta could therefore not possibly be a full member at the time her nomination was made and must therefore be ineligible.

Christopher
Gill says she is an Associate Member but cannot tell me exactly how
many other Associate members we have in the Party and indeed how many of
them there were before Marta was given this (possibly) unique status.


Certainly
nowhere on the membership application form is there an option to become
an Associate Member. The UKIP constitution also states (16.4) ‘All
parliamentary candidates must be paid-up members of the Party in good
standing…’ – no mention of associate members there, I see.



3. Same Proposer

Marta
and Tim had the same proposer – Lord Pearson. This is expressly
forbidden but Christopher Gill has told me categorically he is not
prepared to take any action as he felt ‘Lord P. was only being helpful’!
Apparently breaking rules is OK if it is Lord P. doing it for Marta and
Tim!


4. CRB checks

All candidates were mandated to have a
full, advanced CRB check (not something vaguely similar in another
country, but the full UK version). Indeed, £41 of the £250 deposit was
for this purpose. So important are these checks considered to be when
identifying suitable candidates that the London Assembly candidates list
was delayed for two months last year because of the requirement by the
leadership, at a late stage, for all candidates to have these checks.
You will all recall Nigel Farage stressing the importance of these
checks and saying that if we had them in place in 2004 they would have
picked up Ashley Mote’s transgressions – therefore it was imperative
that all candidates must have them in 2008.


But to have a CRB
check you need a UK address at which you reside and for which you can
produce utility bills. Once again neither Tim (who I believe can only
spend a certain amount of days in the UK, which would indicate he is
non-resident for tax purposes) nor Marta (who lives in Barcelona) would
have been able to obtain a UK advanced CRB check as neither is resident
in the UK. Why was an exception made for them?


Very odd reply
from CG to this one ‘Marta has never made any attempt to hide the fact
that she lives in Barcelona’!! and ‘Tim lives in Bath’. However, TW told
me that although he owns a flat in Bath this was rented out and he was
living in Portugal with his family.


5. Candidates standing in more than one Region

It
was clearly required that candidates make it clear, both at the
hustings and by other means, if they are standing in more than one
Region. Marta certainly didn’t mention it at the London Hustings, nor is
it in her published candidate details. Many of these members who might
otherwise vote for a certain candidate would be far less inclined to do
so if they knew he/she actually considered our Region second best.


Christopher
Gill’s response was: ‘The point you make about declaring an interest in
another region is well made – in a message to all MEP Interview Panel
Chairmen dated 10th July David Challice highlighted the fact that the
onus was upon candidates to publicly disclose if they were standing in
more than one region. This instruction seems to have been ignored in at
least one other region to my certain knowledge and will feature in my
report’.


What use is ‘featuring in his report’ going to be? The damage has been done and another rule broken.

I
know that the fact the shortlists were published on the UKIP website
should apparently have enabled members to do some detective work and
identify who was standing in more than one Region – but again this does
not seem to comply with the spirit of the rule or why it was made, as
very few of our members ever look at the website, let alone delve deeply
into the members section, and I doubt one in a thousand of our
‘ordinary’ members, as opposed to those of us more involved with the
Party, is aware of multi-region candidates.


6. Electoral Roll number

All
candidates were required to give their UK electoral roll number on the
application form. Unless they have given a false address, neither of
these candidates can possibly be on the UK electoral register.


Christopher
Gill acknowledges this is a problem for MA which should have been
noticed and addressed earlier, although he contends that TW is a UK
resident (wonder if HMRC know this?) but again refuses to take any
action.


From this litany you will realise why many of us are
extremely sceptical about the validity of these two candidates. At every
turn it would appear that exceptions and accommodations are being made,
and rules broken and ignored, to get them on, and keep them on, the
candidate lists. I would appreciate a full explanation of why they were
exempted from the stringent criteria that the rest of us had to comply
with in order to be considered and would ask the NEC to disqualify both
of them.


To paraphrase George Orwell: ‘Why are some candidates
more equal than others?’ I am absolutely sure that if when I had applied
I had said :


I’m not a UK resident
I’m not a fully paid-up member of UKIP
I can’t get a CRB check
My proposer has also proposed someone else
I’m not on the UK electoral Register; and
I have no intention of mentioning I will be standing in two Regions

I believe I would have been very firmly rejected – and rightly so.

Such
chicanery will not play well with Elcom or our other enemies in the
media and the community at large. And there are a number of people
already aware of these facts, and upset about them. Indeed some of these
questions have already been asked on the Democracy Forum – whose
members number many who most certainly do not wish us well – so are thus
in the public domain . This really could badly damage our chances in
the 2009 elections and we should not be putting ourselves in this
position.


I would formally ask the NEC to disqualify these two candidates from standing in London Region.

Please
do not think I have anything personal against Marta – on the contrary,
my limited acquaintance with her has always been a pleasure. And Tim
seems a personable sort of fellow. But rules are being broken and
distorted to keep these two candidates on the list and this is simply
WRONG.I have already informed Christopher Gill that should this request
be ignored then I wish to withdraw from the London list, and whilst I
will do everything to ensure Gerard is elected I will not campaign or
fund-raise if Atkinson, Andreassen or Worstall remain on the List.


I
have also told him that I want my £250 returned as this has obviously
been taken from me under false pretences. The false pretext in this case
being that all candidates would be treated equally and subject to the
same rules, which is patently not the case.
Ends.

After
being sued in the Court for the return of her £250 deposit UKIP paid
her the money, plus costs. However, they refused to admit liability and
said that they were returning her deposit “as a gesture of goodwill”.This
is, of course, complete nonsense. UKIP returned the deposit because
Lynnda asked for documents, including a copy of Marta Andreasen’s
application form and a copy of her £250 cheque and CRB documentation. It
is thought these may not have existed in a form which would have
satisfied the Electoral Commission or UKIP’s Constitution.

Tim
Worstall’s application form would have proved interesting reading since
he was a tax exile living in Portugal and, therefore, could not be a
full member of UKIP, legally pay his £250 donation OR get a CRB check.

For more details of the dishonesty & corruption of UKIP’s selection process including the outright lies and cheating of Mick McGough see: CLICK HERE

Regards,

Greg L-W.

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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

 

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Conservative Home Over Eggs the UKIP threat …

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Conservative Home Over Eggs the UKIP threat …
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Conservative Home Over Eggs the UKIP threat as clearly UKIP have proved themselves to be unfit for purpose – ANY purpose other than perhaps in aiding The EU to undermine the credibility of a EUroSceptic cause in these United kingdoms!

As a EUroRealist I find UKIP represents absolutely no British values which I would espouse to with its self serving, self enriching, racially and religiously intolerant clique in leadership bribing a claque of supporters to keep them on the Gravy Train!

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Hi,
there is a relatively interesting comment about UKIP and the polls (makes a change from Roger Knapman UKIP & The Poles!) which I have reproduced from Conservative Home where is you wish to read all comments you can read on the internet.

Cameron’s ratings have collapsed, UKIP could cost the Tories 30 seats… but there is SOME good news in the opinion polls

By Tim Montgomerie
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I won’t comment here on the biggest poll of the weekend – over at Majority Conservatism Paul Goodman provides a comprehensive review of Lord Ashcroft’s mega poll on the political attitudes of ethnic minority Britons.

Cameron-Opinion-Poll

The more regular opinion polls are not good for the Conservative Party. I summarise them within today’s newslinks (scroll down this page). In today’s Sunday Times (£) Peter Kellner of YouGov makes for gloomy reading:

“The Prime Minister is no longer a clear asset to his party. Immediately before the Budget, 44% thought he was doing well, while 49% thought he was doing badly. His net rating, minus 5, was pretty good for a Prime Minister in mid-term. Now his rating is minus 31 (well 32%, badly 63%). Only Gordon Brown can match such a collapse in popularity, when he scrapped plans to hold a snap election in October 2007. It is not a happy precedent.”

Here’s how respondents to the latest YouGov poll rate Cameron (PDF):

  • 42% see the PM as competent, 47% as incompetent (-5%);
  • 41% see him as strong and 44% as weak (-3%);
  • 42% as likeable and 46% as dislikeable (-4%);
  • 39% say he’s in control of his government and 47% say not (-8%);
  • 23% see him as in touch, 69% as out-of-touch (-46%);
76% say Cameron doesn’t understand how ordinary people live and most of this group say it’s because of his privileged background (50%) rather than other factors (26%).UKIPMr Kellner focuses on the threat that UKIP poses to the Tories. Noting that, as of today, UKIP is 10% in the latest YouGov survey and 1.4 million former Tories have transferred to the party, he proposes a scenario where they could “crucify” the Tories:

“Suppose the economy continues in the doldrums. Suppose Cameron’s ratings stay on the floor. In 2014, a year before the next general election, Europe’s voters will decide who represents them in the European Parliament. Voting will take place under a proportional system that helps smaller parties – and the anti-EU UKIP most of all. Last time, in 2009, it came second, ahead of Labour. Unless the Tories recover, I would not bet heavily against UKIP topping the poll in 2014, or coming close… UKIP would have the credibility it has always craved. Under our first-past-the-post system for electing MPs, it might end up with too few votes to win many seats for itself – but quite enough to scupper the Tories. Suppose it wins over just 2,000-3,000 unhappy Tories in each of the key marginals. This kind of division on the Right would be enough to cost Cameron up to thirty seats, and hand victory to Ed Miliband. If the shift to UKIP is much greater, Labour could win by a landslide.”

The YouGov survey isn’t ALL bad for the Conservatives, however:

  • By 36% to 28% David Cameron and George Osborne are more trusted to run the economy than Ed Miliband and Ed Balls;
  • By 54% to 27% voters accept that “big” spending cuts are necessary and would be being implemented whoever was in power;
  • Only 32% blame the current government for the double dip recession – 29% blame global factors including the Eurozone, 17% blame the last Labour government’s legacy and 10% blame the banks for not lending enough. 

Sunday, April 29, 2012

To which I have responded:
Hi,

mid term polls are ALWAYS staggeringly unreliable & as Neil Kinnock will tell you they ain’t much use at elections either!

One huge benefit of pollsters is they carry the clout with politicians with their perceived power to get their odious wives jobs way beyond their experience or ability.

Now let us consider the polls of the last few days where Cameron has fared ill – it is all very well to see him denounced and denigrated but with no credible alternative whatever the polls say is absolutely irrelevance.!

Then of course there is the myth of UKIP that pops up like a bad smell whenever someone wants to have a pop at one of the two political parties that ARE British politics.

For all UKIP’s 10% this weekend let us not forget their track record when despite having been at 15% some time ago they have a record of serial failure in domestic politics.

Consider that ina one horse race their leader came a resounding THIRD beated by an independent of little merit and less known, despite his wearing of a dolphin outfit!!

UKIP has NEVER done well in ANY domestic election and despite th3ere being some 19,500 seats available by election in Britain you will note UKIP has NEVER held one of any note and currently has less than 30 on district councils or above (including  MEPs)!

I wonder if it is their association with some of the most vile extremists in EU politics in their EFD Group which harbours, racists, anti Jewish, anti homosexual, Holocaust deniers and advocates of violence as a political tool!

The cyber stalking, low grade abuse by members of its NEC and staff may well show what they would be like in any authority as with their serial corruption and dishonesty which are well documented.

It has been shown that a part of its leadership policy is to lie to its members to cover-up for its misdemeanours and crimes as with Derek Clark MEP and Nigel Farage it is also well documented that Gerard Batten MEP is all too willing to abuse his position and waste Police time to seek to suppress free speech and discussion of his overt antipathy to Muslims which borders on incitement to race hate based upon his own superstitions and fears and that he has also obtained a gagging order to prevent the goings on in Courty where he is facing the Court on issues of racial discrimination etc. we are given to understand.

Then again it may well mitigate against UKIP that one of Farage’s ‘friends’ was drunk in an MPs flat and stole his Blackberry, correspondence and House of Commons Pass, then we have the turncoat Tory Bursnell advocating witholding the vote from the unemployed and supported by Alexandra Swann an ex Tory now acting on Roger Helmer’s staff (I’ll bet the Tories were glad to see the back of these misfits!

I wonder do the pollsters foment results to suit the BBC agenda as we are all well aware of just how useful an ent6ertainer Nigel Farage has become – would that UKIP could find a leader with ability beyond that of stunts and childish outbursts!

It is a tragedy, for those of us who are implacably opposed to being vassals of The EU betrayed by our politicians and civil service (for their own gain) that UKIP has become so befouled as to be unfit for purpose, particularly when the LibLabCon are marching to the same tune backed by a corrupt and simpering BBC andf much of the media who have become to fat and over blown to represent any view other than that which feeds them the most public money from the lowest grade of political class for many generations.

They say a Government is at its best with a strong opposition – little wonder the present government requires the shibboleth of the mythical threat of UKIP rattled at them by the pollsters to even show signs of waking up!

UKIP is no threat to politicians of any stature as they lack ANY gravitas or competence – Well perhaps they are then a threat to the sad spectacle of those we see bickering like children in Parliament!

We are clearly bereft of leadership in the LibLabUKIPCon and since it is not leadership we want but sound representation our position as a Country is unsurprisingly calamitous bankrupt in all but name by 13 unlucky years of economic illiteracy and self enriching betrayal we now find ourselves with unconvincing Hooray Henrys for Governance as our industry is syphoned off by our EUropean enemies.

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Greg_L-W.

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