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Owen Paterson Explains Why Ukip Has It Wrong

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Owen Paterson Explains Why Ukip Has It Wrong – particularly on the issue of immigration, borders and the EU’s role!
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Published: January 5, 2015

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Owen Paterson is a former Environment Secretary and is MP for Shropshire North.

Two startling facts leaped out of the newspaper headlines last. First, immigration has overtaken the economy as the most important issue facing the country, according to the respected pollsters YouGov. Second, despite predictions to the contrary, especially from the BBC, immigration from Romania and Bulgaria is now running at 50,000 a year.

The YouGov finding is extraordinary. All my adult life, the state of the economy and the closely related matter of unemployment have been the number one concern of the British people. Not so now. Every month since May, immigration has either tied with the economy as the country’s main worry or been in the lead. During September, it outscored the economy by 58 per cent to 48 per cent as the top priority of voters.

But after Labour’s abject 13-year failure to control our borders, during which four million people were allowed to enter the UK – an unprecedented influx – I can’t say I am too surprised. Understandably, given the pressures that this tidal wave of newcomers has imposed on our public services, job opportunities and wage levels, the public is hopping mad about the collective failure of the political class to get a grip on our borders.

An election is only just over four months away. It is a safe bet to assume that immigration will loom large in the political battle to come – and that victory will go to the party that offers the most convincing solution to the question of how to bring order to the chaos of the present arrangements.

Labour and the Liberal Democrats have nothing to offer. Ed Miliband recently tried to toughen his party’s stance. But his efforts provoked derision when they coincided with a leaked internal briefing paper for his MPs and activists telling them to “move the conversation on” if voters had the temerity to mention immigration.

As for the Lib Dems, I treasure the arrogant complacency of Vince Cable, the Business Secretary, airily dismissing the threat of a Romanian and Bulgarian influx as “just a scare story”. The latest numbers prove how wrong he was.

UKIP, with its victories in the European elections and two by-elections last year, has skilfully tapped into public fury over borderless Britain. But I fear that its answer – leave the European Union and introduce an Australian points system to control numbers – is another dead end. Immigration is not a binary issue of control or no control, membership of the EU, or no membership. It’s a complex global problem.

Essentially, as long as there are significant incentives to move, people will cross borders. As long as we are a rich nation, people will continue to come. While Romanian wages are one-eighth of UK wages, it’s worth the cheap air fare.

When controls are imposed, people find a way round them. Even in the US, where millions of “wetbacks” cross the porous Mexican border, nearly half the illegal immigrants are people who entered legitimately as tourists, as students or for business purposes and have overstayed. In the UK, there are over 30 million visitors each year and attempts to pull up the drawbridge, as UKIP would have us do, would simply lead to a massive surge in illegal immigration.

Yet for our economy to grow, we must welcome people with a whole variety of skills, be they fruit pickers or graduate doctors.  This is the conundrum: accepting 260,000 net immigrants in a year is stretching our public services to their limit and is unsustainable, but our open economy needs immigration.

UKIP’s solution is simply to “leave the EU”. I can see many advantages in Britain quitting the EU. But that alone would not crack the immigration problem. Even if we were to leave, it is inconceivable that the UK could negotiate a trade deal with the EU that did not involve some agreement on freedom of movement.

Currently, 13 percent of the UK population are first generation immigrants. Norway and Switzerland, both outside the EU but with such agreements, have immigrant populations of nearly 15 and 23 per cent.  UKIP’s preferred option, the Australian skills-based points system,  has resulted in an immigrant population of 27 per cent. Immigration is driven by “push” and “pull” factors unique to each country. Shaping these is more effective than formal border controls.

David Cameron was right in November to address one of the key “pull” factors by promising to “make welfare reform an absolute requirement in renegotiation”. However, much of the problematic immigration into this country stems not from the EU but from the European Convention of Human Rights. Repeal of the Human Rights Act and adoption of a new Bill of Rights would set the UK free from the ECHR, helping us to address the “push” factors.

We would no longer be forced to allow family members to join migrants; we could remove illegal immigrants as we wished. It is ludicrous that we are unable to deport illegal immigrants from Calais, because our judges say that France is not a “safe” country for asylum seekers!

Some measures, particularly those to do with benefits, are permissible under existing EU law. But many more will require treaty change. The Lisbon Treaty has made this change more complicated; it will be extremely difficult to reach an agreement before 2017. As if this wasn’t enough, the member states (especially Germany) and the Brussels Commission have made it clear that free movement is “not negotiable”.

We can’t force them to give us treaty change without invoking Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty. It is the only legally binding mechanism that we can use to enter formal negotiations on a new relationship. It allows two years for negotiations, so there would still be time for a referendum in 2017.

It is critical to remember that the economic single market and the political EU are not one and the same thing. We can participate in the market as members of the European Economic Area without being saddled with the EU as a political project. Those, such as the business chiefs of the CBI, who confuse the memberships of the single market and the EU are making a basic error and misleading the British people.

This is where UKIP is wrong. Desperate to control immigration from the EU, the party has rejected continued membership of the single market within the EEA – which would place our economy at risk. In fact, as a member of the EEA but not the EU, we would not be bound by the European Court of Justice and its rulings on our benefits system. But, crucially, we could introduce “Safeguard Measures”, giving us an “emergency brake” on excessive migration – an option not available to us in the EU. We would get the benefits to business and the economy of free movement, with real power over our borders.

Managing immigration is a question of balance. We cannot afford to bring down the shutters and cut ourselves off from the rest of the world – many of our industries need skilled immigrants to keep our economy growing. Remember, too, that enterprising migrants have started nearly half a million businesses, employing over eight million people. A managed immigration policy should recognise this.

UKIP’s policy of simply “leaving the EU” is nothing but a populist slogan. Implementing an intelligent policy of managed immigration will require guts, determination and attention to detail. The colourful characters running UKIP may have added to the gaiety of the nation during the festive season. But only a resolute Conservative government with a good working majority can begin to address these issues.

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COMMENTS:

there are some 103 at the moment but it is astonishing, as one wades through them, just how few seem to have grasped the points Owen Paterson has put forward having obviously done some extensive research.

Since I commented I take the liberty of posting my comment and showing it in context here:

“The YouGov finding is extraordinary.All my adult life, the state of the economy and the closely related matter of unemployment have been the number one concern of the British people.”

What nonsense, for much of the last twenty years crime, NHS, Defence/International relations and immigration have topped the list
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Indeed, was always a concern to those outside Westminster – what has changed is the rise of UKIP means it can be a vote decider and so MPs are now more alert to it than before
Agree a prority for most of us for many years past ,but only the influx in the south/souyh east and London has brought it to the attention of the westminster club
Hi,

it is interesting to note just how increasingly wrong pollsters seem to be these days. Just look at how inaccurate they will prove to be in this coming General Election, where Ukip will have a huge destabilising effect yet command an insignificant number of seats, even relative to the economic illiteratti who will follow Alex Salmond’s self interest cult.

Could this be due to the arcane process of telephone interviewing, where it is a preponderance of older voters who have domestic land lines, and where even the unemployed youngsters seem able to afford costly Iphones, games & mobile internet communication and the like.

May I suggest it time for pollsters to either modernise or get their wives grossly over paid jobs in the EU, perhaps emulate the ‘odd’ journalist who has become game keeper turned poacher as an MEP!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

To take the issues further EUroRealists may find a detailed read of Owen Paterson’s excellent speech on the EU worthy of their time – to reach it and read it in full CLICK HERE
For those who truelly wish to understand the issues and complexity of The EU and how we can work to Leave_The_EU may I suggest you CLICK HERE where you can read The FleXcit details.

You may well then find it expedient to read ‘The Great Deception’ which so admirably lays out the history and structure of The EU and can be linked to in the right sidebar of this web site.

May I also commend ‘The European Parliament’ by Richard Corbett, Francis Jacobs and Michael Shackleton which admirably lays out the nuts and bolts of how The EU functions and has grown to become the evil structure that it has.

An understanding of these nuts and bolts helps greatly in comprehending which ones have to be undone to repatriate our democracy. reinstate our borders, restore our sovereignty and restructure our Governance at Westminster to ensure no such great betrayal of our sovereign peoples in these United Kingdoms ever again occurs – to that end may I suggest a carefull study of The Harrogate Agenda as linked immediately below the header of this web site.

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Cameron Ducking To Avoid The Misunderstood Ukip Issue!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/12/2014

Cameron Ducking To Avoid The Misunderstood Ukip Issue!
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Cameron Ducking To Avoid The Misunderstood Ukip Issue! As it is NOT how well Nigel Farage’s odious rabble will do but what damage they will inflict on the Tories boosting the danger of Ed Milliband & pennuary as we to wait for the EU’s inevitable collapse!

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Hi,
reading my way around the blogs and papers as regular ports of call I found the article below of particular resonance and believe you will find it a worthwhile read, wherein I incline to agree with both the main thrust of the article and the detail.
Though I must say I do feel that both Cameron and the author are over estimating the likely threat of Ukip holding and serious level of power even as a balnce at Westminster.
Although it is possible that Farage’s party could get as many as 10 seats in the Commons it is very unlikely and a more probable outcome will be none or just one or two, which at this stage does not include a seat for the showman Farage, who has not made any serious appearance in his chosen seat of Thanet for 3 months and when last there appearing on a panel it seems he got bored and lefty early for more pressing matters:

It is of course not unreasonable to assume he merely left to indulge himself as that is how he is most frequently portrayed by his own press office who know him best:

FARAGE, Nigel 103 + Victoria Ayling, Jo Bateman, Alexandra Swann, Sanya-Jeet Thandi

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The threat of Nigel Farage’s party

FARAGE, Nigel 94 ORCHESTRATING A DEFECTION 01

Is not in the next parliament but how they will disrupt the election where they are likely to take more votes from the incumbent governing party than the opposition leading to the calamitous possibility of Ed Milliband and Ed Balls in Downing Street with a minority Government propped up by the self serving SNP – a situation from which Britain may well never recover which would lock us into The EU until its inevitable collapse.

Also be minded that the SNP have 6 MPs in the present Government, a number Nigel Farage’s antics can only aspire to, and they have proved to be a total irrelevance at Westminster and it has been their home territory in Scotland where they have proved so damaging to Scotland, the Scots and the Union.

Sadly, like the SNP, Ukip has only an ability to do damage as it rakes through the gutter of politics aided by a self serving claque and the failures of society – pandering, as it does, to any form of populism however unpleasant, just to gain places on the gravy train when clearly they have no real interest in any issue other than their own income stream as they so clearly damage the honest desire of a huge tranche of the British electorate who seek to overturn our membership of the EU’s political engineering, with a new relationship in association with the EU as an economic common market rather than vassals of the new political Empirate.

I am firmly of the belief that the responsible and honourable way forward for these United Kingdoms has been laid out in detail HERE and HERE

However for some further thoughts, as it pertains to Cameron and the future of the Tory Party:

Saturday, 29 November 2014

The EU Game Cameron Plays

It is a truth universally acknowledged that when it comes to all matters EU, Cameron – the cast iron Prime Minister – is not to be trusted.

Yet he is also a man under political pressure not only from his own party but what he perceives as the UKIP threat for his general election chances. This is evident with his 2017 referendum promise which was made under duress while he had previously been anxious to avoid one at all costs.

So as we enter the final straight leading up to May 2015 we had a much-hyped speech on immigration yesterday. Its purpose not only to try to win the election but form the basis of winning an EU referendum in 2017.

In his speech we had the typical Cameron flourishes which were a rehash of his “commitments” over the Lisbon Treaty. With Lisbon he was repeatedly asked what would happen if it was ratified by all member states before he came to power. “We won’t let matters rest there” was his response, which as we all know, letting matters rest there was precisely what he did. A U-turn that almost certainly cost him the 2010 election.

Yesterday we had a variation of the same theme.

If our concerns fall on deaf ears and we cannot put our relationship with the EU on a better footing, then of course I rule nothing out.

Cameron repeated the “I rule nothing out” during the questions and answers session which followed his speech. Cameron hinting he would consider exit but not actually specifying it and we think it’s fair to assume that he won’t.

However the more interesting point concerned how Cameron was going to attempt to wriggle himself out of the hole which he has very firmly plonked himself in, namely that any reforms to satisfy eurosceptics needs treaty change and that can’t be done in the two years he proposed, if at all.

Cameron acknowledged during the Q&A session following his speech that his whole package required treaty change (my transcript):

Guardian: Patrick Wintour from the Guardian. You’ve cited Open Europe in your speech. Open Europe’s figures show that even if you’re on the minimum wage and you lose your tax credits a Pole or a Bulgarian will still have a financial incentive to come to the UK. Why are you sure that these measures will repel people from coming to the UK and secondly does this require Treaty change in your mind

Cameron: The answer to the second question is yes. These changes taken together they will require some Treaty changes. There’s a debate in Europe about exactly which bits of legislation which bits of the Treaty you’ll need to change but there’s no doubt this package as a whole will require some Treaty change. And I’m confident we can negotiate that.

Such arguments have been made often on the internet so it’s refreshing to see Cameron finally and publicly coming to the same conclusion. It’s also interesting that his numerous references to Open Europe effectively outs it as the europhile organistion that it is and that its own purpose is to keep the UK in the EU.

So…how to remove himself from a hole? Well we get a very clear indication of how he is attempting to do it from the superb analysis by Richard North of Cameron’s speech:

What the Prime Minister has done is narrow down the “reform” spectrum to cover one subject, and one subject only – immigration. To be more specific, it has been narrowed down to freedom of movement.

This has a number of positives for Cameron. By linking the freedom of movement to the issue of benefits, has made Cameron try to look somewhat tougher on both. Then by concentrating largely on immigration he’s turning his fire on UKIP.

With UKIP exiting the EU arena and going for the anti-immigrant vote as its sole purpose, topped off by an all round aggressive undertone that by Farage’s admission alienates half the electorate, it’s an understandable strategy from Cameron. It’s not the definite “ins” or the definite “outs” which matter, it’s the more sensitive “don’t knows”, “couldn’t care less”, and “could be persuaded either way” votes which win a referendum.

Thus by proposing what “appears” to be more a moderate sensible solutions to a concerned electorate rather than one of a more robust and alienating policy of repatriation (nevermind confusion) it would leave UKIP with nowhere else to go. It’s a similar scenario to countries such as Cuba whose economy used to rely mainly on one export- sugar. Any failure for whatever reason in the product and you’re buggered.

Another positive for Cameron is that there are mechanisms within EU membership which are “already possible without treaty change, or even additional EU legislation“. Those which do require treaty change conveniently can be achieved via Article 48 without the need for an IGC (Intergovernmental Conference):

…Article 48 – which deals with treaty change – also allows for a “simplified procedure”. Potentially, this would allow the procedure to be completed on a rainy afternoon in Brussels, perhaps on the margins of a European Council. There is, though, a small condition. The changes permissible are confined to Part Three of the Treaty of the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) which, just as it happens, include freedom of movement. Against all the odds, therefore, Cameron could pull off a quickie treaty and come home in triumph, waving a piece of paper.

What we can see here therefore is Cameron relying on the rather misleadingly named “self-amending” parts of the Lisbon Treaty. He will attempt to return from ‘negotiations’ claiming he’s reformed the EU via Article 48, in this Cameron is attempting to do “a Chamberlain“. It’s as transparent as it’s dishonest.

However there are also some significant negatives with Cameron’s strategy. The hurdles for Cameron are not over. Article 48 is limited to what it can and can’t do and it cannot just change the Treaty of the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) on a whim as and when, despite some of the eurosceptic rhetoric.

While Article 48 by-passes the need for a complex full-blown EU treaty and an IGC, any amendments still require the UK Parliament’s permission (along with the other 27 member states):

The amendments shall enter into force after being ratified by all the Member States in accordance with their respective constitutional requirements.

And under Article 48.7 we can see an implicit approval clause

Any initiative taken by the European Council on the basis of the first or the second subparagraph shall be notified to the national Parliaments. If a national Parliament makes known its opposition within six months of the date of such notification, the decision referred to in the first or the second subparagraph shall not be adopted. In the absence of opposition, the European Council may adopt the decision. 

In short it means Parliament always agrees to amendments unless it specifically objects within a certain time period. Therefore as we can see from Article 48 the key point is that Parliament still has a say in any potential amendments to the Lisbon Treaty.

Thus we could be in an interesting position where Cameron’s much fabled “piece of paper” is rejected by Parliament. Realistically this is unlikely. With all main parties supporting EU membership, the likelihood is Parliament will support it, but with lots of pantomime – Labour and the Lib Dems complaining it didn’t go far enough. Here would be a repeat of ERM membership – all parties supported it, for example Labour as represented by a future Chancellor known as Gordon Brown in 1990 although their criticisim was that membership didn’t go far enough:

We needed an investment Budget to deal with the problems of training in industry, a Budget that would pave the way for negotiations to enter the European monetary system [ERM], a Budget that would do something about the problems that industry now faces, with investment flat and falling away.

While permission from the UK parliament maybe assured, Cameron also requires unanimity within the European Council as this Parliamentary document makes clear in its conclusions; “…any Treaty revision by means of simplified procedures, and any changes to decision procedures by means of passerelles, will be subject to veto by the Government in the European Council or Council of Ministers.”

Thus initially Cameron has to have the approval of the other 27 member states, via the European Council and then via their own respective individual parliaments as well. Here we can probably expect likely objections to Cameron’s proposal to limit immigration to come from countries such as Poland or Romania both of which have a veto (a proper one unlike a phantom one).

Another difficulty for Cameron is, and one that has always been present, if the UK requests too much then it leads to other countries demanding concessions as well. And has always been the way through the horse trading (and consensus) which typifies EU politics the UK will give up more than it achieves.

So it is more than likely that Cameron’s package will be whittled down to non committal “declarations”, “protocols” and “technicalities”. All accompanied by theatre, marching bands and cheerleaders…but no substance. Wilson’s “New Zealand butter” writ large. All helpfully promoted by our europhile media.

Encouragingly, and somewhat revealingly, while Cameron acknowledged Norway was a part of the single market he did not specifically mention during his speech that it was “governed by fax” which he has been prone to do in the past. This is possibly a new development. And so we wonder if Witterings from Witney’s meeting with Cameron in August on this and other matters (coupled with Owen Paterson’s recent speech) had a far more reaching resonance than we might have fully appreciated. Certainly Cameron has not used the phrase since. Instead he noted:

Those who argue that Norway or Switzerland offer a better model for Britain ignore one crucial fact: they have each had to sign up to the principle of freedom of movement in order to access the single market and both countries actually have far higher per capita immigration than the UK.

Which seems to suggest the Prime Minister knows full well (or has been informed by one of his constituents) that we can have single market access without being members of the EU, thus removing ourselves from the political union baggage which he claims he wants to do. It appears that we are beginning to establish the Norway option within the public debate.

Rather incoherently he then argues that EEA membership is not an acceptable option because it has to sign up to the principle of freedom of movement, but at the same time argues that within the EU and the single market he can negotiate restrictions. A claim that becomes even more absurd when the EEA agreement, under Articles 112-3, allows greater scope to place restrictions on immigration.

And further danger emerges for Cameron that by narrowing his reforms down to one issue he risks alienating those who wish “further and deeper reforms” such as big business represented by the likes of the CBI or members of his own side. It’s also a tacit admission from the Prime Minister that he has somewhat painted himself into a corner – he has nowhere else to go either.

With this in mind we increasingly wonder if Cameron has simply just changed the hooks on which he has impaled himself and in this he is entirely beatable.

 

7 comments:

  1. Being that 2017 in mental terms is now ‘the near future’ it’s reasonable to theorise beyond the Referendum in the case that the contrived terms are sufficient to convince the UK electorate to endorse continued membership.

    Even by voting to remain in, the contradictions and inadequacies of the EU will remain, and the institutions and justifications behind them will continue to decay. Just by voting to stay in won’t make the EU any more coherent or workable – as far as I’m concerned, it will still fall apart in chaos. Those observers who actually know what they’re talking about will highlight that EU membership is still the ultimate resort of the politically insane and the logic to that is to continue the campaign to withdraw.

    I’m sure Cameron thinks he’s being jolly clever by evading the points at hand. After an ‘In’ result, the anti-EU campaign will therefore continue, business as usual.

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  2. Agreed…the EU isn’t finished in terms of its final destination so it is a moving target. This means that issue cannot remain settled while the EU keeps on integrating, especially when we consider the “referendum lock”.

    We can see another example with the Scottish referendum which has failed to silence the debate

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/scottish-politics/give-us-a-new-referendum-by-2024-say-two-thirds-of-scots.25747131

     

     
     
  3. Sorry – should really declare identities under ‘Anonymous’ – Douglas Carter as previous post.

    I can’t blame the Scots for taking the opportunistic route – it was a literal insanity freelancing Gordon Brown to change the terms of the referendum half-way through voting – the people sending in a postal vote in advance of Brown’s intervention were voting in a Referendum which no longer existed on the final day. Some observers noted at the time there was no evidence his panicked reaction had any influence on the eventual outcome. Scots Nationalists are entitled to draw exactly the opposite conclusion since an intervention is made quite specifically to influence an outcome.

    I get no self-awareness from the Cameron\Brown\Murphy axis (if you take my point there) that the fault that the Nats’ campaign has not been stalled is entirely down to their own stupidity immediately in front of the finish line.

    That ought to be a lesson for the custodians of the EU Referendum – the whole thing needs to be crystal-clear well in advance of the poll itself – and changing the terms of the debate half way through the Campaign will simply guarantee they settle nothing on a permanent basis.

     

     
     
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  5. Thank you for the mention and link.

    To think that I may have ‘educated’ David Cameron, or made him change his mind – I wish I could be that famous! 🙂

    Cameron’s basic error in all this is that he forgot an old adage: when in hole stop digging.

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  6. You’ve no need to be famous if you’re the power behind the throne 🙂

    On a serious note, it’s obviously hard to quantify influential impact, but it seems to me to be more than coincidence that Cameron has refrained from specifying the “Norway fax” meme ever since.

    In addition he is clearly in league with Open Europe who have ‘tightened’ up their rhetoric on Norway particularly after a press complaint from this blog…

    My observation thus is that your meeting in August had a significant impact.

    And agreed completely on digging holes.

     

     
     
  7. On a notional academic point –

    ‘Cameron has refrained from specifying the “Norway fax” meme’

    …if he has indeed accepted that the myth that Norway has no influence, would it not be the case that any representative of a Government led by him would also need to be slapped down if they themselves continued to make that erroneous claim?

    For example, imagine if his own Deputy Prime Minister carried on using the claim – you’d think Cameron would want to bring him in for a re-briefing, wouldn’t you?

     

     
     
  8. Hi,

    I think not, Cameron has clearly lost control over the lies, distortions and misrepresentations Clegg is now using in the run up to the General Election, as he desperately fights for the life of his party which has been so conclusively trashed by his leadership and the incompetence and dishonesty of his MPs and MEPs.

    We all saw what Clegg’s legacy was in the EU election and we can expect the same whipeout in the General Election as his voters return to their natyural homes as either Tory or Labour.

    Norway’s position has been misrepresented consistently by the main parties and also by the racist claims of Ukip in relation to immigration, where not being in the EU but with the benefit of EEA membership has left Norway and for that matter Switzerland with around twice the levels of immigration that Britain has experienced, despite our Commonwealth affiliations!

    Facts and due dilligence have never been the forte of Ukip and Clegg & Farage would both seem to be willing to make any claim for publicity and self aggrandisement.

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>GP – RN: EU exit: the Paterson speech

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/11/2014

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Monday 24 November 2014

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The actual speech text is here, delivered at 11am this moning. It is reviewed in The Times, in the Telegraph, the BBC, the New Statesman and elsewhere (140 reports and counting).

The essence of speech is that, instead of pussy-footing around, Cameron should cut to the chase and commit to invoking Article 50 the moment a Conservative government takes office after the election. With an electoral mandate, there is no need for a referendum.

Negotiations on a exit settlement should then proceed, using the “Norway option” as the base, involving joining EFTA and adopting the EEA agreement. Additionally, the entire EU body of law should be repatriated, to ensure legislative continuity, allowing for selective repeal and amendment as appropriate and necessary.

The loss of influence in leaving the EU is more than made up for by the restoration of our standing in international organisations such as Codex, UNECE, OECD, and many others, where we would be negotiating in our own right, determining standards which, under WTO rules, the EU is obliged to adopt.

In this, there would be no “fax democracy” as such. We would be sending laws down to Brussels – not the other way around.

The issue of “freedom of movement” is dealt with by dropping out of the ECHR and the EU treaties, so that we would only be obliged to grant freedom to workers, and not their dependents unless we chose to do so – plus restoring the ability to deport illegal immigrants.

Also, there would be continued measures to address “push” and “pull” factors, making the UK unattractive for unskilled migrants seeking low-paid work

However, Paterson reminds us that it took 40 years to progress to this stage of integration and we are not going to resolve all the issues in one stage. For the longer term, therefore, he argues that we would need to progress from the EEA to ensure a genuine Europe-wide Single Market, working on a truly intergovernmental basis.

One possible alternative, he suggests, is to strengthen the regional UNECE, so that it can administer the Single Market as an economic project rather than a political construct. Using that body, we would be able to negotiating directly across the board, cutting out the EU as the middle man, and substantially enhance the transparency of the system.

With a more durable European solution in place, we would be better able to promote our economic interests and we would also be able to take a lead in revitalising international trade. Free from the EU, says Paterson, we would have real influence on shaping the global regulatory models where true power lies.

The UK would have a key role in building transparency with enormous benefits to tackling organised crime, such as human trafficking, addressing issues of migration constructively.

In conclusion, Paterson adds, the Eurozone has already embarked upon a path that we can never follow. We are simply recognising that reality. We must either be fully committed to “Le Projet” or we must build an entirely new relationship.

The British people must be allowed to make that decision. Article 50 is the best method of making this happen. By this means we would forge ahead and resume our rightful place as a global leader. With our own independent status, working closely with our many allies, we would massively increase our influence.

As Churchill said, “We have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe but not of it. We are linked but not comprised. We are interested and associated but not absorbed”. He was right then and he is right now. Get this message across and the UK has a spectacular future as a flourishing world power.

Richard North

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Robin Page – A Great Loss To UKIP due to Farage’s Insecurity / Ego

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Game Fair: Glastonbury for the green welly brigade

Attended by as many people as Glastonbury, the CLA Game Fair is a chance to champion all that’s great about rural Britain

CLA Game Fair: The annual rural event at Blenheim Palace attracts the same number of people at Glastonbury

CLA Game Fair: The annual rural event at Blenheim Palace attracts the same number of people at Glastonbury 
 

It doesn’t seem possible. One of the highlights of the rural year is here again already – well almost. The CLA Game Fair will be held at Blenheim Palace, in Oxfordshire, next weekend. I will be there on all three days and I hope to meet as many readers as possible. I will spend as much time as I can on the stand of the Countryside Restoration Trust, although I ought to confess that on Friday 18 I shall be busy “networking” for much of the day – a deceitful way of saying that for some of the time I will be socialising, meeting old friends, eating, drinking and gossiping. Enjoying myself, in other words.

I also have to work for one hour on the Friday, between 11am and midday, when I am taking part in a debate at the Game Fair Theatre titled: “Would the countryside be better off if we left the EU?” It will be an interesting debate for me, the first time since 2008 that I will have met my old “friend” Nigel Farage, leader of Ukip– another panel member. In days gone by, Nigel pleaded with me to join Ukip; he was a guest at my wedding and visited Lark Rise Farm. When, in 2008, I was mysteriously disqualified from Ukip’s MEP selection process, I phoned Nigel, who blamed Ukip’s “political committee”.

At a public meeting shortly afterwards, the party chairman was asked who was on the political committee. He replied: “Nigel Farage.” With friends like that, who needs enemies? At the debate I shall be wearing a back-protector – I want to ensure that I can’t be stabbed from behind twice.

Interestingly, another who has benefited from Nigel’s “friendship” in a vaguely similar way in the past, and who has also been lost to Ukip, is Richard North, collaborator in all things nonsensical about the EU with the Sunday Telegraph’s stalwart Christopher Booker. What a loss for the sake of a political ego.

Even more interestingly, in 2008 Ukip was “green”. Since then it appears to have been “ungreened” by positioning itself well to the right of Margaret Thatcher on the free market and globalisation – presumably at the behest of the “political committee” again.

While at the Game Fair, visitors will be able to simultaneously celebrate another great event, “National Countryside Week” (July 14-20), started by the Prince’s Countryside Fund in 2010. Already it has raised nearly £4  million for rural-based enterprises and causes. If only more politicians would take the interests of the countryside as seriously as the Prince of Wales. Attendees will be able to “Walk a Country Mile” — any distance they like, in fact — to make a contribution to the Fund. More details on page 18 of Weekend, and in the special Countryside Week edition of Life tomorrow. There will be a celebrity walk too, with Alan Titchmarsh, England rugby captain Phil Vickery and J B Gill from boy-band JLS. Sorry, I can tell you nothing about JLS as I am stuck in the time-warp of The Wurzels – and proud of it.

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The recently published impartiality review produced for the BBC Trust describes in a very restrained way how disgracefully the BBC regards the Game Fair and the Countryside Alliance. It points out that there will be about the same number of people attending the Game Fair as attend Glastonbury– the difference, of course, is that Glastonbury streams constantly through all the BBC’s main outlets for more than the festival’s three days, whereas when the Game Fair is in full swing, how many minutes will be broadcast by Countryfile, The One Show, the Today programme, Farming Today and so on “live from the Game Fair”? Let’s wait and see.

Yet, as the report says, millions are involved with country sports. There are 500,000 game shooters alone and two million hectares (nearly five million acres) actively managed for conservation because of shooting. Then there are the people the report does not mention – the beaters, the gamekeepers, the gunmakers, the butchers and the people like me who do not shoot but enjoy eating roast pheasant.

The report also mentions the “fraught” relationship between the Countryside Alliance and the BBC – and, of course, it is only “fraught” because so many BBC programme makers do not understand the countryside and have prejudiced, “townie” views concerning country sports.

In evidence submitted to the report, Steve Peacock, former editor of Farming Today and agricultural adviser to The Archers, sums it up best: “The BBC has got better about nations and regions, about ethnic minorities but not about including the rural dimension.” So much for the BBC’s take on the modern-day obsession with “equality and diversity”.

It still grates with me that both David Bellamy and I were erased from the BBC because of our support for the Countryside Marches organised by the Countryside Alliance (and our views of the EU). The irony is that neither of us hunts, shoots or fishes.

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The Game Fairjust oozes the “real” countryside. There are so many brilliant artists and sculptors whose work can be seen there – Rodger McPhail, Ashley Boon, Simon Gudgeon and many more. Yet they too are often ignored by chunks of the mainstream non-sporting media who should be interested in their outstanding talent. Oh, I almost forgot the wonderful Tania Still, who painted the fantastic fox hound Corset, which I walked when she was a puppy. The incredible Corset, now 14 years old, is still alive and well and enjoying her retirement living with my sister Rachael. What a dog – sorry, hound. I deliberately leave my chequebook and credit cards at home when visiting the Game Fair so that I don’t act too impulsively when I see a picture I like.

Fly casting in the lakes and the activities in the main ring inevitably attract me. I love the parade of hounds, as well; the relationship between the huntsman and his pack is astonishing, as is the bond between man and dog. To me, as a non-hunter, the “hunting ban” remains an illiberal act of undiluted prejudice and shame. And now manufactured pressure is building up on shooting, too.

Then there are the terrier races, falconry displays and so much more. The Game Fair shows that, despite the urbanisation of Britain, and the BBC’s coverage of the countryside, the heart of the “real” countryside still beats strong.

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Now I have a confession to make. In addition to the Game Fair, visiting Blenheim is almost like a pilgrimage for me. It is the original home of one of my favourite apples, the Blenheim Orange. The apple was found by a tailor named George Kempster, at Blenheim, in about 1740. He then grew it on from pips and, because of its outstanding taste, it quickly spread across Europe and America. When horticulturist and brewer Richard Cox later crossed it with a Ribston Pippin, it became the unbeatable Cox’s Orange Pippin – and our next crop looks promising in the garden, gales permitting.

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Whilst on the subject of the countryside it is worth noting The Government Cabinet reshuffle – Owen Paterson must be very pleased to have been relieved of his role as Countryside Minister as he is no longer bound by Cabinet constraints and can take up his position as a leading EUroSceptic.
May I suggest, nay even hazzard a guess, that we may even see him ‘break cover’ shortly and position himself to lead the Leave-The-EU campaign in the referendum, which The Farage Cult are doing so much to damage, Owen paterson in place would of course silence Farage’s self serving and dishonest antics and with the well reasoned ‘EXit & Survival Plan’ as presented by FleXcit supporting him he would be in a good position to work towards a NO vote and implementation of Article #50 by the British Government to Leave-The-EU.
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Has Cameron Created His Own & Farage’s Worst Nighmare?

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neither Owen Paterson quoted extensively below nor Liam Fox who featured in today’s Times can be as easily dismissed as others when it comes to views on membership of the EU – as both are clearly experienced big hitters and there is no element to the publicity seeking clown about either of them.
All too readily others who have opposed membership of the EU can be dismissed as lightweights seeking attention or enrichment by representing a populist view and unlike others there is no element of reject nor failure about these two men, who have clearly thought the issues through and can measure the facts against actual experience in high office and not just as irrelevant EU makewights as MEPs clearly are.
Further with the adoption of responsible and clearly thought through plans for the methodology of Leaving_The_EU they do offer a responsible eXit and survival strategy in the form of The FleXcit plan which is more than adequate in its coverage and growing apace in its detail – unlike UKip who have never been able to present a workable eXit and survival strategy in their 21 years despite much braying!
Even to this day there are some in UKip and even on the back benches of the Tory Party who would be naiive enough to believe that to Leave_The_EU is but a simple matter of passing an Act of Parliament repealing our membership! Some are so ill informed and gullible as to believe that Article #50 is some form of trap, showing just how expensive are the tin foil hatters and conspiracy thjeorists amongst the ranks of EUroSceptics.
Sadly tyhe naiive  who have been duped into the belief that rescinding our membership would be simple it is clear they can not be blamed because why should they be better informed having put their trust in politicians who have not only created this evil monster but embroilled these United Kingdoms in the mess which was their dream – these are the same self styled political elite who are either so stupid as to believe or so dishonest as to claim that the EU can be reformed and powers repatriated.
Do not forget that some who sold our Country out to be vassals of the new EU Empire were so corrupt and treacherous as to boast they had not read the documents they had not only voted for but signed!

Owen Paterson: I’m proud of standing up to the green lobby

Writing for The Telegraph, the former environment secretary, Owen Paterson, says he is proud of standing up to the green lobby

Owen Paterson, says he is proud of standing up to the green lobby

Owen Paterson, says he is proud of standing up to the green lobby  Photo: AFP

Every prime minister has the right to choose his team to take Britain into the general election and I am confident that my able successor at Defra, Liz Truss, will do an excellent job. It has been a privilege to take on the challenges of the rural economy and environment. However, I leave the post with great misgivings about the power and irresponsibility of – to coin a phrase – the Green Blob.

By this I mean the mutually supportive network of environmental pressure groups, renewable energy companies and some public officials who keep each other well supplied with lavish funds, scare stories and green tape. This tangled triangle of unelected busybodies claims to have the interests of the planet and the countryside at heart, but it is increasingly clear that it is focusing on the wrong issues and doing real harm while profiting handsomely.

Local conservationists on the ground do wonderful work to protect and improve wild landscapes, as do farmers, rural businesses and ordinary people. They are a world away from the highly paid globe-trotters of the Green Blob who besieged me with their self-serving demands, many of which would have harmed the natural environment.

I soon realised that the greens and their industrial and bureaucratic allies are used to getting things their own way. I received more death threats in a few months at Defra than I ever did as secretary of state for Northern Ireland. My home address was circulated worldwide with an incitement to trash it; I was burnt in effigy by Greenpeace as I was recovering from an operation to save my eyesight. But I did not set out to be popular with lobbyists and I never forgot that they were not the people I was elected to serve.

Indeed, I am proud that my departure was greeted with such gloating by spokespeople for the Green Party and Friends of the Earth.

It was not my job to do the bidding of two organisations that are little more than anti-capitalist agitprop groups most of whose leaders could not tell a snakeshead fritillary from a silver-washed fritillary. I saw my task as improving both the environment and the rural economy; many in the green movement believed in neither.

Their goal was to enhance their own income streams and influence by myth making and lobbying. Would they have been as determined to blacken my name if I was not challenging them rather effectively?

When I arrived at Defra I found a department that had become under successive Labour governments a milch cow for the Green Blob.

Just as Michael Gove set out to refocus education policy on the needs of children rather than teachers and bureaucrats and Iain Duncan Smith set out to empower the most vulnerable, so I began to reorganise the department around four priorities: to grow the rural economy, to improve the environment, and to safeguard both plant and animal health.

The Green Blob sprouts especially vigorously in Brussels. The European Commission website reveals that a staggering 150 million euros (£119  million) was paid to the top nine green NGOs from 2007-13.

European Union officials give generous grants to green groups so that they will lobby it for regulations that then require large budgets to enforce. When I attended a council meeting of elected EU ministers on shale gas in Lithuania last year, we were lectured by a man using largely untrue clichés about the dangers of shale gas. We discovered that he was from the European Environment Bureau, an umbrella group for unelected, taxpayer-subsidised green lobby groups. Speaking of Europe, I remain proud to have achieved some renegotiations.

The discard ban ends the scandalous practice of throwing away perfectly edible fish, we broke the council deadlock on GM crops, so decisions may be repatriated to member countries and we headed off bans on fracking. Judge me by my opponents.

When I proposed a solution to the dreadful suffering of cattle, badgers and farmers as a result of the bovine tuberculosis epidemic that Labour allowed to develop, I was opposed by rich pop stars who had never been faced with having to cull a pregnant heifer. (Interestingly, very recent local evidence suggests the decline in TB in the cull area may already have begun.)

When I spoke up for the landscapes of this beautiful country against the heavily subsidised industry that wants to spoil them with wind turbines at vast cost to ordinary people, vast reward to rich landowners and undetectable effects on carbon dioxide emissions, I was frustrated by colleagues from the so-called Liberal Democrat Party.

When I encouraged the search for affordable energy from shale gas to help grow the rural economy and lift people out of fuel poverty, I was opposed by a dress designer for whom energy bills are trivial concerns.

When I championed brilliant scientists demonstrating genetic modifications to rice to save the lives of hundreds of thousands of children in developing countries, I was vilified by a luxury organic chocolate tycoon uninterested in the demonstrable environmental and humanitarian benefits of GM crops.

When faced with the flooding of the Somerset Levels I refused to make the popular and false excuse of blaming it on global warming, but set out to reverse the policy inherited from a Labour peeress and serial quangocrat who had expressed the wish to “place a limpet mine on every pumping station”, while deliberately allowing the silting up of drainage channels.

When I set out to shatter the crippling orthodoxy that growing the rural economy and improving the environment are mutually exclusive, I was ridiculed by a public school journalist who thinks the solution to environmental problems is “an ordered and structured downsizing of the global economy”. Back to the Stone Age, in other words, but Glastonbury-style.

Yes, I’ve annoyed these people, but they don’t represent the real countryside of farmers and workers, of birds and butterflies.

Like the nationalised industries and obstructive trade unions of the 1970s, the Green Blob has become a powerful self-serving caucus; it is the job of the elected politician to stand up to them. We must have the courage to tackle it head on, as Tony Abbott in Australia and Stephen Harper in Canada have done, or the economy and the environment will both continue to suffer.

* Owen Paterson is a former secretary of state for environment, food and rural affairs.

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This week, Booker takes up cudgels on behalf of Owen Paterson. Of all David Cameron’s moves in that bizarre reshuffle, he writes, one told us more about his judgement and character than any. It is hard to recall recently a more direct political insult than his contemptuous sacking of our Environment Secretary; a man who, below the media radar, has been the most effective of all his ministers.

The feelings of those aware of what Paterson achieved in two hectic years were expressed on Friday when he attended the Game Fair in Oxfordshire. Mentions of his name twice brought standing ovations from hundreds of disbelieving country folk, once in response to a fulsome tribute paid him by Nigel Farage.

When Paterson was made Secretary of State for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs he was, in practical terms, far better qualified for the post than anyone in the House of Commons. Some years earlier, as a countryman himself, he was a superbly well-briefed front-bench spokesman on agriculture and fisheries, travelling the world to meet experts on the scourge of bovine TB and fisheries management.

In September 2012, he took over a department that for years had been a sadly dysfunctional backwater, not least because, more than any other ministry, almost all its vast and complex responsibilities, from farming and fisheries to water and waste management, are subordinate to policies originating in Brussels.

One of his more remarkable achievements, as a “Eurosceptic” but also as a good French and German speaker, was the way he quickly came to play a leading role in all those endless meetings with his European counterparts, working the Brussels system as cleverly as any British minister has ever done, winning respect by his practical grasp and good humour even from those who disagreed with him.

Gradually, he galvanised Defra out of its long sleep, turning it into an effective player, as we saw nowhere more than in my own county of Somerset, where he made such a decisive intervention in last winter’s floods crisis and won the gratitude of hundreds of farmers for his masterminding of our remarkably successful badger cull.

This summer, dairy farms that have been losing scores of cattle every year to TB are reporting that, for the first time in decades, their herds are free of infection.

In “Westminster bubble” and media terms, none of this has counted for anything. Enraged green activists and their media allies tried to paint Paterson as “the worst environment minister ever”, while out in the countryside he is rated as easily the best.

But the tsunami of vitriolic green propaganda is all that the denizens of No 10 seemed to notice. Mr Cameron and his urban advisers were so embarrassed by the anti-Paterson hate campaign, over everything from badgers to wind farms, fracking to GM crops, that he had to be fired.

The respect Paterson had won in fighting for common sense and British interests, not just from millions of country folk but from his opposite numbers in Brussels, was far less important than what were perceived to be the electoral interests of his party.

He is replaced by a woman who appears to have no qualifications for the job and who will be totally out of her depth in Brussels. Defra will once again sink back into its dysfunctional torpor, under a minister wholly in the hands of officials who will have to tell her what to say, think and do about everything.

Cameron’s treatment of his most effective minister is not just an insult to Paterson – it is also an insult to the countryside and to the political process; a surrender to those who put mindless spin above the need to see our country sensibly and intelligently run.

When the epitaph comes to be written on Cameron’s bid to create a “Not the Conservative Party”, Booker concludes, the ignominious sacking of Owen Paterson will be seen as one of the most revealing of all his many mistakes.

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