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A GUEST POST> Displaying UKIP’s Degeneracy by An Insider!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/03/2014

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Annabelle Fuller named by Nikki Sinclare in European Parliament

On 11th Dec 2009 I published the letter below from NEC member Del Young to then UKIP chairman John Whittaker concerning the unacceptable activities of Annabelle Fuller in relation to a confidential UKIP candidate test interview of a potential UKIP MEP candidate, John West, which subsequently appeared in the public domain on the internet with the sneering headline, “How not to do politics”. As a result of Del’s letter and subsequent discussions we were told by Whittaker that Annabelle Fuller’s links to UKIP would be severed. That clearly did not happen. The Telegraph reports she returned to UKIP last year. Click below to read  the report: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10692247/Nigel-Farage-employs-both-his-wife-and-mistress-at-public-expense.html

In the report Farage denies he ever had an affair with Miss Fuller. So who is tellling the truth Ms Sinclare or Mr Farage? The UK electorate are entitled to know.

For the record, and with Del’s agreement I publish below an email Del sent to John Whitaker copy to the whole NEC concerning John West’s treatment by UKIP. It speaks for itself.

“Date: Saturday, 26 July, 2008, 16:52

Saturday 26 July 2008
Dear Mr. Whitaker,
First of all let me say that I can sympathise with the fact that a stupid, selfish and destructive action concerning the posting of John West’s MEP media interview on YouTube by Annabelle Fuller has put you in a difficult position.
When the actions of others put us in difficult positions it can be highly frustrating, however given the circumstantial evidence that there is a 99% chance that this video was indeed posted by Miss Fuller, from your email I get the impression that you have not spoken to Miss Fuller indepth regarding this matter.
Instead you have chosen to email the National Executive of the party a fanciful story from Miss Fuller, which is hugely insulting to what little intelligence I possess.
Not only is it damaging to Mr. West that this video has been leaked, it is potentially far more damaging to the party that this video and Miss Fullers Comments – “UKIP are the Eurosceptic nutters” etc. – have ended up in the public domain, and indeed I believe it was posted for a time on the BNP website for god’s sake.
The leader and his disciples have always accused innocent hard working activists of doing things to damage the party and yet one of his most protected confidants has done immense damage to the party with her vengeful, spiteful actions.
As the Chairman of the party and NEC, your first loyalty should be to the best interests of the party and the cause for which we fight, but increasingly over the years you and the majority of NEC members seem to have put loyalty to the leader ahead of the interests of the members, the party and our cause.
As an NEC member I have a duty to work with the elected leader of the party to take our cause forward, but I do not owe that duty blindly and unquestioningly – I have to balance what help or support I give to our leader with the best interests of the party, its members and our objectives.
It has been an open secret within the party that Miss Fuller was under the protection of the party leader and that is why on many occasions Miss Fuller has written things on internet forums that were hugely offensive to members, including certain NEC members and yet no action has ever been taken against her.
Indeed there was a particular series of postings on an internet forum regarding Tom Wise & Roger Knapman a year or two ago by an individual and Miss Fuller which caused some concern to me in so much that this individual and Miss Fuller must have had first hand and unrestricted knowledge of the matter.
At that time I raised my concerns to the NEC and they were minuted regarding persons in the press office having access to information of a sensitive nature and not handling it with confidentiality and care.
I later found out that the person in question was Miss Fullers partner and I was assured by Clive Page that Miss Fuller would not make any future postings and that she had been warned about her behaviour.
Yet after a couple of months Miss Fuller was once again posting on Internet forums commenting in ways unbecoming of a professional member of this party.
Indeed she stated on the Independence and Democracy forum that she is not answerable to the party, instead claiming that she reported to someone in the European parliament and yet it seems she has open licence to abuse UKIP’s name, members and NEC.
If Miss Fuller chooses to resign from whatever positions she holds or indeed from the party before a disciplinary hearing can be arranged, if that is deemed appropriate, there is little that you can do.
However I still believe you should have had a meeting with Miss Fuller to establish all the facts in this matter and prepared a report for the NEC to consider, at the specially convened meeting Eric Edmonds requested and any response to the wider members then agreed by the NEC, instead of this Hollywood fantasy involving a taxi driver and a mysterious computer specialist – I did not realise Stephen Spielberg had joined the party!
Miss Fuller’s actions have left the party with a potentially very large can of legal worms and a high risk of financial liability, I understand that Mr. West has now engaged lawyers and intends to sue the party, as it was UKIP that was responsible under the data protection act and not Miss Fuller.
I would also like to point out that all members of the NEC are liable and responsible for any financial liabilities of the party.
I also believe that the police will be interviewing Mr. West in the near future with a view to launching an investigation and that the information commissioner to whom this matter has been reported may also conduct an investigation, which may lead to the party receiving a sizeable fine.
So you see Mr. Whitaker, Miss Fuller may have walked off into the sunset, whilst we are left to face the music and the possibility of picking up a number of huge bills and your email has done very little to help matters and gives the impression we are running for political numpties of the year award (hotly contested with Gordon Brown I believe).
I suspect that this may not be the last we see of Miss Fuller with regards to UKIP and the InDem group and their activities, I rather suspect that she will be employed by someone connected to UKIP or as a consultant in the 2009 campaign and hence again given the right to apparently speak on behalf of the party.
What has happened to Mr. West has been totally hurtful, unprofessional and hugely unacceptable on all levels, however sometimes we cannot control what happens to us, but we can manage the effects of what happens to us.
As an NEC member I want to work with you and the other members of the NEC in managing this very fine mess once again, created by someone under the protection of the party leader.
Firstly I would respectfully suggest that you write a letter on behalf of yourself and the NEC unreservedly apologising to Mr. West and call an extraordinary NEC meeting as requested by Eric Edmonds so that we can work through and manage where possible, repair where we can, apologise where we must and ensure that the party does not find itself in this position again.
There is an increasingly distasteful pattern appearing in the party, that when party members raise concerns or lodge complaints, they are treated with disdain, contempt and viciousness and in some cases are openly attacked or have lies told about them.
There also seems to be a general refusal to investigate complaints, which in turn leads to further dissatisfaction and trouble that could have been avoided in the first place.
Dr. David Abbott stressed at the NEC meeting in July that we really need to investigate John West’s and others complaints, because failure to do so upsets the activists and rubs the members up the wrong way, sadly his request as per usual appears to have fallen on deaf ears.
Mr. Whitaker you are a very intelligent man and I know you are better than this.
Loyalty to our leader is admirable and should be encouraged, but that loyalty cannot take precedence over the interests of the members and our cause, if the leader is hell-bent on taking us down a very narrow political dead end, there is no good to come from us ignoring the signs and pretending that we cannot see the dangers that lie ahead – it is our duty to advise the leader that he must change direction – this is not disloyal, this is common sense.
At the NEC meeting in June I tried to point out to our leader some of things he needs to change and some of the things that he needs to change, including certain personnel, to get the party back on the right road but this also fell on deaf ears.
We need to have a clear functional and effective strategy, working closely with our branches and our activists in moving forward and growing the party, as our hardest task is to educate the British people on the dangers of the Political EU.
Simply concentrating on returning as many MEP’s as possible in 2009, whilst maybe being admirable and right is not a wholesale or effective strategy for achieving what we must achieve in the UK .
One does not have to like the messenger, but it does help on the odd occasion to listen to the message.
Please call an extraordinary NEC meeting for early in August so that as an NEC we can ask the relevant questions and uniformly manage this mess.
The NEC needs to get back and manage this party as laid down in the constitution, as there are far too many individuals or little groups who are unaccountable to the NEC and yet are making decisions or taking actions whilst being given licence and protection by the leader to use UKIP’s name, sometimes causing damage to the party’s name or members, whilst the NEC is responsible and liable for any recriminations.
It is time for us to stop being the see no evil, hear no evil, but do much evil club.
I have no doubt I will be branded mal-content or trouble maker etc. as usual, however I can assure you that I have just one agenda, and that is to save this country from the political EU and to make this party as strong and effective as it can be to achieve that aim.
Yours truly,
Del


The culture in Farage’s UKIP has not changed and was captured today in a Daily Mail description of what is going on in UKIP’s new election HQ in Mayfair. Click link to read.


The culture of any organisation is set by the man at the top and his close associates.

Mrs Farage is quoted as describing the office atmosphere thus, “a freakshow”

Clearly this office is completely out of control. Is this Farage’s idea of the  professional party he boasts at having created?

The Mail quotes UKIP quotes Ukip director of communications Patrick O’Flynn thus: ‘I have been in post since the start of February and I have been hugely impressed with the professionalism and dedication of staff at Brooks Mews. 
‘The Times clearly would prefer Ukip to do very badly at the forthcoming local and European elections. But everyone at Brooks Mews is working flat out to ensure that the opposite occurs. Given the positive response Ukip is getting from the British public, we are very hopeful of achieving an excellent result.’

Its a joke party that is letting down the decent UKIP members hugely.
They deserve better than this.

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UKIP, Farage, Fuller & Lies About Moroccan Taxis!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 05/04/2013

UKIP, Farage, Fuller & Lies About Moroccan Taxis!

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Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

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The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

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UKIP, Nigel Farage, Annabelle Fuller, John Wittacker, Paul Nuttall & Lies About Moroccan Taxis give a clear insight into the corrupt administration of UKIP and show just why they are unfit for purpose as they betray British values acting without ethics or morality!

Sadly, in real life, all too often corruption and dishonesty are rewarded at the expense of the decent and the innocent!

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it was interesting to note Dr. Eric Edmond’s timing of this item of UKIP history, which in the main he has reported accurately, though with less conviction than the proven facts permit and indicate!
For further details and more extensive facts on this issue and the criminal behaviour of Annabelle Fuller under data protection laws and the clear involvement of Nigel Farage, Paul Nuttall, John Wittacker and others in the efforts to cover up UKIP’s involvement in the crime do search this web blog and also Team Junius’ blog.
Many of the lies told about John West in efforts to defame him and to protect Nigel Farage’s unprincipled and unstable doxy are made more clear and accurately recorded!

Wednesday, 3 April 2013

UKIP, Farage and Moroccan taxis

This all happened around 5 years ago. In the intervening period a whole new generation of UKIP activists and wannabee candidates have joined UKIP. It is for those newcomers like Mrs James that I write. Why? It is the same cabal that runs UKIP today that was running UKIP 5 years ago. We are also in the same period in the European MEP electoral cycle now as were 5 years ago when I participated in the process in the SW region.

UKIP members who wished to go on the 2009 SW MEP slate were interviewed by a small sub committee of 3 all of whose members were fanatical Farage supporters especially the late Malcolm Wood who was the SW RO. They drew up a short list of 10 candidates who participated in four hustings organised by Wood and spread across the region. (Wood also organised speaking engagements at the biggest branches for William Legge alone.) The members then voted on a ranked vote system  ending with Trevor Colman first and Legge second. Really very democratic compared to what will happen in 2014 when candidates will be chosen at the last minute solely by Mr Farage

As part of the short listing process we all had a recorded TV tough media interview with Clive Page UKIP’s then press officer Clive Page. I well remember mine. Clive pulled an old trick at the start stating UKIP were the fourth and smallest UK party. I picked Clive up on that pointing out that in the previous 2004 Europeans UKIP had come third polling more votes than the LibDems! Afterwards Clive told me it was only me and Farage who had picked up his little journalistic trick. Did not say much for how clued up the rest were!

All these interviews were stored on Annabelle Fuller’s laptop computer so Farage could see how possible candidates had performed in a simulated media interview. There was no other copy of these interviews. These interviews were to be totally confidential for this use only.

An Eastern region activist, John West, had done one of these interviews which was held on Fuller’s laptop. West was shocked to find his interview had been posted on Facebook with the horrible head line, “How not to do politics”. This was public for all to see and obviously designed to humilate and ridicule John West.  An investigation traced the posting of this interview to Morroco. Ms Fuller likes to holiday in Morocco.

Del Young, David Abbott and I then on the NEC were detemined to get to the bottom of this. We were not able to interview Ms Fuller which is what we wanted to do but we were given the foolowing taxi tale. Ms Fuller claimed she had left her Laptop in a London taxi. It had been missing for two days. Then Ms Fuller claims it was returned to her London address by the taxi driver who had discovered her address by looking at files stored on the Laptop so he must have posted West’s confidential interview on the web.

I thought it was a cock and bull story. Whittaker, then UKIP chairman, would not take it further but did tell Del Young that Ms Fuller would no longer be allowed to be involved with UKIP.

Fast forward 5years and who was very visible at Eastleigh but Annabelle Fuller. Junius has recently published some emails that seem to show Ms Fuller is not over enamoured of Mrs James.

The unanswered question is why John West’s interview out of the 100 plus interviews done was selected for public consumption?  John was a popular and very active in the Eastern region just like Mrs James is today in the Southern region.    

Plus ca change plus c’est la meme chose, Mrs James. Tread carefully. I opine there never was a Morrocan taxi driver and as London cabbies are required to hand in all property left in their taxi to the police within 24 hours there is a missing 24 hours so I am unconvinced there was even a London cabbie.

I have no doubt UKIP will do very well in the 2014 European possibly even come top of the poll. What concerns me is who these MEPs will be.  Andreasen and Bannerman were Farage approved candidates. I predict that there will be more A & Bs who will gain the Fuerher’s blessing with the same results. This will be a continuous drain on UKIP that eventually in the inevitable tight election or referendum to leave the EU may prove fatal to our cause.

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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.

They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then  still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS: ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.

Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!

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The EASTLEIGH By-Election Results & Thoughts

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/03/2013

The EASTLEIGH By-Election Results & Thoughts
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The EASTLEIGH By-Election Results & Thoughts, Particularly on the UKIP Protest Vote!!

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Having had better things to do today and having listened in detail to election details until 03:00hrs. as the results came in and subsequently there was little of note to post beyond the facts I posted contemporaneously with the election results as follows in reverse time order:

  1. But only the gullible & the ill informed believed David Cameron’s idiotic comments about repatriation & renegotiation http://soc.li/qDzi3J
    View summary

  2. REDACTED AS NOT RELEVANT TO THE EASTLEIGH BY-ELECTION

  3. REDACTED AS NOT RELEVANT TO THE EASTLEIGH BY-ELECTION
  4. REDACTED AS NOT RELEVANT TO THE EASTLEIGH BY-ELECTION

  5. @politicalhackuk With schools, Hospitals & much more sold off to Private landlords & Public Finances scammed by Labour sadly borrowing rises
    View conversation

  6. #ukip MEP Godfrey bloom failed to turn up at #eu committee meeting when financial transaction tax passed by one vote! #bbccqt

  7. For kids watching #bbcqt that are too young to remember cash-for-questions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash-for-questions_affair … Hamilton charged £2k per parli. question

  8. @CorshamResident @IssyTweets @NSinclaireMEP Bright as Niel Hamilton may be his lack of integrity & association with sleaze undermine UKIP
    View conversation

  9. @chrisshipitv @DPJHodges I do not agree based on track record. Diane James was new, an Independent & distanced from UKIP sleaze & corruption
    View conversation

  10. @FreebornTrukip @wiffen I appreciate exposing the facts and clear proven truth is rarely popular to those on the make!
    View conversation

  11. @wiffen Clearly UKIP FAILED to get the message of Leave-The-EU across as their message in Eastleigh but acted as dustbin for protest voters.
    View conversation

  12. Tories gagged their EUroSceptic candidate in Eastleigh & no one believes they will deliver a fair Leave-The-EU Referendum losing votes!
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  13. REDACTED AS NOT RELEVANT TO THE EASTLEIGH BY-ELECTION

  14. @TheEconomist The Tories have failed to explain the desperate need for greater cuts to survive but Moodies made it clear in rating report!
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  15. Tory vote v. poor but not wipe out (mid term protest) Labour however was disastrous & extrapolated would loose a GE badly.
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  16. LibDim winner in Eastleigh with a collapse of 14% of the vote & 17% turnout with 19% swing vote not to Leave-The-EU UKIP but protest dustbin
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  17. Eastleigh clearly shows Tories failed to convince they will hold a fair referendum & Leave-The-EU & failed to convince they need bigger cuts
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  18. Eastleigh 52% t/o LibDim 13,342 – UKIP 11,571 – Tory 10,559 – Lab 4,088 thus as I predicted UKIP gained the protest dustbin vote not values
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  19. UKIP clearly failed to get the message of Leave-The-EU across to the electorate in Eastleigh merely using immigration protest fear tactics!
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  20. Eastleigh turnout down by 19% as I predicted UKIP miss out on postal vote even as the protest dustbin vote & get very few votes for policies
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  21. Eastleigh UKIP gain a notable share of protest vote but fail to win based on the postal vote as I predicted. Few votes are for UKIP values!
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Further to my >TWEETS< you may also be interested in the opinions of Dr. Richard North regarding the Eastleigh by-election – a posting with which I largely agree:

UK politics: a wasteland of democracy

Friday 1 March 2013

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The media are glibly talking of the “humiliation” variously of David Cameron (Independent) and the Conservatives (Telegraph), completely unconscious of the fact that the by-election result represented a humiliating defeat for the political class as a whole.

As Your Freedom and Ours points out, people are not turning out to vote for any of the candidates in any numbers. But, when the lead candidate goes to Westminster on the back of 17 percent of the electorate – not even one in five of the voters – that represents a crashing failure of the political class to take the people with them.

But then, when we see Clegg stand alongside the new MP and proclaim “we overcame the odds”, while The Times talks of a “stunning” victory, the nature of the problem becomes apparent.

The great divide then yawns into a chasm when Lib-Dem party president, Tim Farron, claims: “This is a staggering result … it will be a turning point in this parliament and that we are in a position to win this seat completely changes the narrative of the parliament”.

And while the voters delivered a majority of 1,771 for the Lib-Dems, it is interesting to note that aside from the Lib-Lab-Con-UK matrix, there were ten other parties in the field, including the Monster Raving Loony Party, which collectively polled 2,056 votes.

Farage talks glibly about the Conservatives “splitting the UKIP vote”, and also hails UKIP’s “strong showing” as a sign of “revulsion” at the three main parties across Britain. But there were over two thousand voters who thought more of the likes of the Beer, Baccy and Crumpet Party than they did of his offer. Those votes were sufficient to deprive his candidate of a seat in Parliament.

What is thus very, very clear from this result is that the politicians simply haven’t got the message – any more than has the media. They are regarded, collectively, with a mixture of indifference and contempt. Party politics and voting in this country have become a minority preoccupation.

The result today, therefore, is not a disaster, per se for Cameron and his Conservatives, as some would have it. It is a disaster for the flawed experiment in representative democracy, another nail in the coffin of a failed system.

As for UKIP, the picture remains muddy. Your Freedom and Ours observes that their plan to become the third party after the Lib-Dims has fallen by the wayside by the latter’s victory in Eastleigh.

They cannot pretend that they are the second party in the country with no MPs and very few councillors. So, despite the undoubted rejoicing in the UKIP ranks and despite the nauseating plaudits that will be heaped on the Dear Leader, the fact remains: after 20 years and in the most propitious circumstances they remain in no-man’s land.

Increasingly though, this is becoming the “no-electors’ land” – a wasteland of democracy. And the politicians can’t even bring themselves to admit it.

COMMENT: “EASTLEIGH” THREAD

Richard North 01/03/2013


 UK politics: Eastleigh by-election

Friday 1 March 2013

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More than usual hyperventilation has attended this by-election, with some pretty bizarre predictions, even by the rather low standards of British political commentary. For what it is worth, my (private) prediction was that the Lib-dims would romp home, the Tories would come a poor second, Labour third and UKIP would keep their deposit with about seven percent of the vote … all on a very low turnout of 40 percent.

 
But then, I was certainly wrong on the turnout, as early reports put the it at 52 percent. This is higher than I expected although low in contrast to the 69.3 percent cast in the 2010 general election. All the same, no one at the beginning of the count was expecting the earlier tosh about UKIP winning to materialise, although there was still some expectation that UKIP might make second place.
 
As always though, the postal votes were set to play a crucial part, with 14,000 issued, and the Lib-Dems expected to take the lion’s share.  Given that most of these votes were in before the latest groping controversy, that vote was expected to be fairly solid.

UKIP had to beat Ray Finch’s 2010 performance, when he took 1,933 votes, taking 3.6 percent of the votes cast, losing his deposit. In the 1997 election, the Referendum Party fronted Victor Eldridge and took 2,013, also coming in with 3.6 percent of the votes. Thirteen years had not delivered any appreciable enhancement in eurosceptic sentiment in Eastleigh.

 
The talk though is of UKIP becoming the reservoir of the protest vote, and in particular capitalising on concerns about immigration. 
 
And, at just after 2.30 am, the result came through. The Lib-Dems did indeed romp home, coming in with 13,342 votes, against the second comer at 11,571 votes – UKIP.  Second place for Farage’s party, nearly a thousand ahead of the Conservatives at 10,599.  Labour trails at 4,088 votes. So much for my powers of prediction.
 
Mike Thornton’s vote of 13,342 votes compares with Chris Huhne’s 24,966 in 2010, yet Thornton talks of a Lib-Dem “mandate”, having dragged in a pitiful 32 percent of the votes cast, and 17 percent of the electorate of 78,313.  UKIP’s great victory amounts to 28 percent of the votes cast, or 14.8 percent of the electorate. 
 
This is a victory of sorts – bald men fighting over a comb, squabbling over a diminishing quantum, where an MP goes to parliament with a “mandate” of 17 percent of the electorate.  It never was democracy.  Now, it isn’t even representative.

COMMENT THREAD

Richard North 01/03/2013

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