Ukip’s Douglas Denny’s Glacial Approach To Ethics & Honesty, has nothing new to say, that I wasn’t puiblishing 10 years ago & even the media realise!
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Douglas Carswell faces showdown with Ukip chiefs over Farage leadership row
Ukip chairman Steve Crowther warns that the party’s only MP Douglas Carswell will be told to explain how his call for Nigel Farage to quit helps the campaign for Britain to leave the European Union
UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage and UKIP’s only MP Douglas Carswell stand outside the Houses of ParliamentPhoto: EPA/FACUNDO ARRIZABALAGA
Mr Carswell is Ukip’s only MP, after retaining his seat at the election in May. He believes that Mr Farage has now run his course as leader and called this week for a “fresh face” to take over.
Musing aloud is all very fine and dandy but it’s not very helpful if you are trying to maintain some sort of party direction and discipline
Steve Crowther, Ukip chairman
However, the timing of Mr Carswell’s comments has infuriated Mr Farage’s supporters and dismayed Mr Crowther, who warned that Ukip’s National Executive Committee would demand answers from him at its next meeting in January.
Mr Crowther said the Clacton MP was “absolutely wrong” to suggest that a disappointing result in the Oldham by-election – which Ukip had hoped but failed to win – showed Mr Farage had taken the party as far as he could.
Nigel Farage at Ukip’s offices in Oldham
Mr Crowther told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme that the row would be discussed when the party’s 19-strong National Executive Committee – on which both the politicians sit – meets next month.
“This is very unhelpful. As a party chairman it is not something I relish,” he said.
“There is a time and a place to have discussions about the leadership of the party but I don’t think that on the eve of an EU summit or on the BBC is either of them.
“This news was released on the day we were celebrating the utter collapse of the Prime Minister’s negotiating position in Europe.”
Political life was “not without its speed bumps”, said Mr Crowther, but the party was in good shape.
I made the jump ? and now I’m an MP! Photo: Andrew Matthews/PA Wire
“Broadly speaking we are continuing to progress: we took control of a council; we had four million votes in the general election; our poll ratings are holding up since the general election against all predictions.
“Political life is not without its speed bumps.”
Asked what he thought were the motivations for Mr Carswell – who insists he does not want the leadership, Mr Crowther said: “Douglas is an independent thinker. It’s his principal characteristic as a politician. “He is just voicing his view.
“But, as I said, musing aloud is all very fine and dandy but it’s not very helpful if you are trying to maintain some sort of party direction and discipline.”
He went on: “All political parties have conversations about how it’s going. But these are things that ought to be held within the party.
“Douglas is a member of the National Executive Committee and the NEC will be wanting to speak to him about this in January.
“They will be wanting to talk about the thing we want to do, which is to run a really coherent and cohesive campaign to leave the European Union. And this has been going very well. The polls are moving in our direction.”
Mr Carswell’s demand for a “fresh face” at the head of the party drew a “put up or shut up” retort from leader Nigel Farage, who hinted that the ex-Tory’s future in Ukip was under threat.
In response to the article above you will note the staggering dishonesty of little Douglas Denny and his astonishingly thick skin, for as the better informed reader will be aware it was this particular little man who not only supported Nigel Farage devoutly for many years but in fact acted as his bag carrier, fixer and resident fool!
Clearly Douglas Denny could for many years have brought down Nigel Farage but being so embroilled in the corruption over which Nigel Farage presided for so many years Douglas Denny dare not speak out for fear of the consequences to himself were he to provide the evidence and details he engineered for Nigel Farage.
Douglas Denny is a liar, a fraud and a fantasist who has taken many years before plucking up his courage and in shame reitterating and confirming what I was publishing well over 10 years ago and which he did much to dishonestly suppress for his personal gain.
That said it is worth following his febrile steps at trying to pretend he is making some sort of revalation when all who know Ukip well and its history have led the way for him! Douglas Denny’s political accumen is as miniscule as his ethics and integrity, however you may be amused with his attempt at catych up as he vaulte faces!
From: ddennyoptom@gmail.com
To: douglas.denny@btopenworld.com
Subject: UKIP. Farage. Carswell and the future.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 13:35:16 +0000
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Dear ex-colleagues, political associates and friends,
What I predicted is coming to pass:-
….the slow decline, the gnawing destruction by evisceration, and eventual oblivion of UKIP as a potent political party in Britain.
How and why is this coming to pass? …as I also foresaw and predicted long ago:- …by the odious narcissism and total egotism of one man – Nigel Farage. Everyone in the country can see it – except for one person – the perpetrator himself.
Nigel Farage lost in the General Election. He himself said before election day it was end-game for him as Leader if he didn’t win. He didn’t win, but Douglas Carswell did. The obvious and logical position was for Douglas Carswell to become Leader.
Nigel’s hilarious hokey-cokey in-out dance, resigning as Leader (as he said he would) then reneging on that commitment immediately afterwards has destroyed his credibility forever and is without doubt the biggest mistake of his whole political career. The GBP (Great British Public) now see clearly through the thin veneer if they didn’t before, the selfish egotism and narcissism behind it. He is no longer seen as an honest leader but ‘just another self-aggrandising politician’.
The message is clear; and the future of UKIP in no doubt if Nigel Farage continues to insist on taking the party down with him as being the only possible Leader of UKIP…. just like Hitler took his whole country and German people down with his egotistical total commitment to himself – oblivion !
The only answer for UKIP to continue into the future with any kind of credibility, with any form of sensible political power available to it, is for Nigel Farage to stand down NOW and for someone to come forward to unite the party. Douglas Carswell is the obvious choice to come forwards in that role to become leader: he is the only UKIP MP in parliament with the political power to change things there.
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It is a tragedy they all seem to forget that it is the cause and the fundamental issues at stake we all should be fighting for and which matters – NOT the egoes and narcissism of the individual personalities involved. Nigel’s time is up – he should make way for someone else. If not – UKIP will eventually sink below the waterline without trace.
It is time for the members of the NEC to say to Nigel Farage:-
It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonoured by your contempt …..
……. in the name of God, go!
Douglas Denny.
UKIP member for 15 years; ex-NEC member for 12 years and longest continuous NEC serving member except for … Nigel Farage.
I shall spare you the tedium of fisking this idiotic letter and its self serving efforts to gag the truth!
Ukip still haven’t given any kind of cogent or responsible response to the facts surrounding their fraud and corruption reported with links CLICK HERE
Then there is the abiding issue of Racism in Ukip CLICK HERE with yet further examples and dwetails being added today!
Here are a few other issues many concerning Gawain Towler, which Ukip has failed to sort out CLICK HERE you may also wish to consider CLICK HERE and HERE
It must also be considered of note that in 22 years Ukip, largely under the self serving control of Nigel Farage despite espousing Leave-The-EU has done much to enrich its leadership team and staff but little to move Britain closer to the eXit – note Ukip, under either the direct or indirect control of Farage, failed to speak out with clarity or provide well researched rebuttals of EU policy, nor was Ukip an active and visible leader against ANY EU Treaty and Ukip have never produced a responsible, well researched EU eXit and survival strategy – nor even opposed the EU New Constitution, rebranded as The Lisbon Treaty, nor did Ukip offer cogent researched briefing papers on opposing membership of The EUro.
Then to follow this point Ukip and Farage were conspicuous by their absence in the fight against The EUro project – Further you will note Ukip and Farage in particular did much to try to prevent a petition and were conspiring to undermine one of their own MEPs Nicki Sinclaire. Fortunately Nicki Sinclaire was made of sterner stuff and acted with resolution to ensure she overcame bot Nigel Farage and Ukip obtaining some 1/4 Million signatures and a debate in the House of Commons.
Perhaps the following media interpretation of the plight of Ukip may help convince of the fact that Nigel Farage may well have been the making of Ukip but he is surely now the likely cause of Ukip’s demise and he together with many of the top 50 individuals in the party and almost all the staff must be removed if Ukip is to have a future and a new leader of some stature and probity must be found.
Sadly Douglas Carswell has shown himself to be inadequate to the task, not only does he lack the leadership skills but has made it very clear he lacks the political accumen to know when and how to act, though he may be the only individual in place capable of leading the party into the May elections, as there is no one else currently apparent.
Ukip gently implodes with EU referendum finish line in sight
Political phenomenon that drove David Cameron to call EU vote is in decline but forces to which it gave voice remain strong
Nigel Farage Nigel Farage at the European council meeting in Brussels. Photograph: Dean Mouhtaropoulos/Getty Images
Patrick Wintour Political editor
Friday 18 December 2015 20.13 GMT Last modified on Friday 18 December 2015 21.35 GMT
There is a certain delicious irony that in the week the EU referendum bill passed into UK law and David Cameron confirmed he intends to hold that vote next year, Ukip, the political phenomenon that drove him to call the referendum in the first place, is gently imploding.
Its two main leaders – Douglas Carswell and Nigel Farage – are engaged in an open war, the party’s head office cannot afford a Christmas party and morale has fallen after the party failed to make a breakthrough in a byelection in Oldham West seemingly tailor-made for its message. Perhaps familiarity has meant Farage has lost his star quality.
Yet back in January 2013 when Cameron made his momentous speech at Bloomberg announcing the referendum, the domestic and European landscape looked so different.
Ukip had achieved a breakthrough in the 2013 European elections, topping the poll with 27% of the vote, the Conservatives were locked in a civil war about gay marriage and there were real fears that Ukip would deprive Cameron of general election victory.
One poll by ComRes, published in the Independent in December 2013, saw Ukip well over 10 points and, on this showing, the pollsters predicted an overall Labour majority of 110 seats with the Tories down 99 seats and the Liberal Democrats cut to 36. The very foundations of the Conservative party were trembling.
On mainland Europe, the Greek financial crisis was at its height with austerity budgets, riots and EU crisis summits following one after the other in bewildering succession.
Tories argue the current calm shows the wisdom of Cameron’s decision to risk the referendum. If he had failed to ask the self-consciously “difficult questions” in the Bloomberg speech, Britain might have drifted toward the EU exit, and observing the rise of the far right in Europe, Farage-ism could have turned into an unstoppable force. Advertisement
For as Cameron repeatedly argued in this week’s European summit, the forces to which Ukip gave political expression have not declined at the same rate as Ukip itself. Migration, pace of change, identity and security remain significant issues.
The question arises whether Cameron’s package – with all its technocratic language of baskets, treaty change and yellow cards – will lead anyone to think that he has negotiated the fundamental change he promised. Polling, our old unreliable friend, suggests not.
The proposed welfare reforms look timid alongside the massive global forces driving migration. But that does not mean a majority of voters will decide to leave. Faced by the old choice between risk and security, voters choose security.
At minimum, voters may be grateful that their political masters have given them a choice. The deeper question is whether Cameron’s intervention has prompted the EU to answer its questions about economic governance. In his Bloomberg speech, he said: “The EU must be able to act with the speed and flexibility of a network, not the cumbersome rigidity of a bloc.”
“Now – while the EU is in flux, and when we don’t know what the future holds and what sort of EU will emerge from this crisis – is not the right time to make such a momentous decision about the future of our country.”
Yet many of those issues have been postponed until after the French and German elections in 2017. Some of those most basic questions about the future structure of the EU remain to be answered.
Nigel Farage says Ukip’s MP Douglas Carswell ‘can put up or shut up’
Ukip leader hits back at MP’s calls for him to resign, saying he can get behind party on immigration or leave
Nigel Farage Douglas Carswell Nigel Farage and Douglas Carswell. Photograph: Suzanne Plunkett/Reuters
Rowena Mason Political correspondent
Friday 18 December 2015 15.20 GMT Last modified on Saturday 19 December 2015 00.02 GMT
Ukip leader Nigel Farage has warned his only MP Douglas Carswell that he must stop criticising his leadership and get behind its anti-immigration message, or think about leaving the party.
Farage accused his MP of creating disunity and failing to sign up to its core belief that immigration is out of control, after Carswell said it was time for a change of leadership to draw a line under Ukip’s unpleasant and socially illiberal image.
The row reignites longstanding tensions between the two men ever since Carswell defected from the Conservatives 18 months ago. However, this is the first time Carswell has called for him to resign outright.
Farage hit back at him in an appearance on the BBC’s Daily Politics, suggesting that Ukip’s ruling body would not put up with any more public dissent from Carswell.
Making it clear he was not going to fight to keep his single elected MP, Farage said: “He’s one person. So what? Every single time there is a Ukip conference it finishes with a story of disunity and it is all being caused by one person. And frankly, I think it’s going to have to end. He’s going to have to put up or shut up.
“Either he accepts Ukip is unified, not just behind its leadership but behind believing controlling our borders and dealing with immigration is a fundamental issue in British politics, either he’s going to have to accept that or do something different. The stories you need to read, in one handy email Read more
Asked if Carswell would leave the party, Farage said: “I don’t know what he wants to do. It will not be me who makes these decisions it will be Douglas that makes these decisions.
“We know he agrees with us on the question of EU membership. The difficulty is that we think controlling immigration, having an Australian-style point system is the right way forward. He seems to feel it’s a bit too awkward to talk about these things…. He’s been a part of it but he must decide whether he wants to continue to be a part of it.”
Pressed on whether Carswell would have to leave if he will not curb his criticisms, Farage said: “We cannot have and I don’t think the NEC will allow one individual to give an impression to the country that Ukip is divided when actually it is very united.” Advertisement
The Ukip leader also claimed to have the unanimous support of his party’s national executive, his MEPs and 91.4% of Ukip voters based on a recent opinion poll.
Carswell has ruled out running for the leadership himself but believes the party needed a fresh face to get to the “next level” of electoral success.
Although he praised Farage for growing the party, he also said that sometima startup “needs to change gear and to change its management”.
He made the comments an interview with BBC Essex as part of a documentary, in which he also criticised Farage for suggesting Ukip’s failure to challenge Labour in the Oldham byelection was linked to fraudulent postal votes.
“Let me put it another way: I don’t want to wake up the morning after the European referendum and hear people saying ‘it was the postal votes’.”
He added: “If Ukip becomes that – that optimistic, sunshine, smiley, socially liberal, unapologetically free-market party – we will break out from the 13%, we will break out from being the also-rans in Oldham to being the winner.”
There has been tension between the two for a while, and it bubbled over during the summer in a row about party funding, Carswell’s criticism of Farage’s comments about migrants with HIV and again at Ukip’s conference over the party’s decision to back rival anti-EU campaigns.
Farage told the BBC: “It hasn’t hit me cold – he has been saying this privately for some months.” However, the Ukip leader insisted the party was “very united”.
“We have one person who disagrees with my leadership. Douglas Carswell is out on a limb.”
The roots of the argument are Farage and Carswell’s differing approaches to the EU referendum, in which the Ukip leader wants to focus on the dangers of migration to the UK. In contrast, Carswell takes a more liberal view of immigration and is working on a more cross-party basis on the Brexit campaign.
Many Tory Eurosceptics and some within Ukip are worried that Farage is too divisive a figure to be associated with the EU exit campaign.
Farage initially stepped down after failing to win his target seat of South Thanet at the general election. However, he changed his mind, prompting a bout of infighting in the party.
At the time, Carswell suggested Farage needed to “take a break” and Ukip MEP Patrick O’Flynn described the leader’s style as snarling and aggressive.
UKIP IN MELTDOWN AS FARAGE TELLS CARSWELL TO ‘PUT UP OR SHUT UP’
Carswell says the party needs a ‘fresh face’ as leader
December 18, 2015, By Josh Pettitt
At war (PA)
Nigel Farage has told UKIP’s only MP to “put up or shut up” after calling for the party leader to quit.
Douglas Carswell blamed Mr Farage for UKIP’s unpleasant image and the party’s poor performance in the Oldham by-election this month.
The MP for Clacton blasted the UKIP leader for blaming the result – which saw UKIP come a distant second – on “bent” postal votes and called for a “fresh face” at the top of the party.
‘HAVING A GO AT ME DAILY’
But this morning Mr Farage hit back, telling Sky News: “He has been having a go at me every single day since the general election, it’s just that he has been doing it in private, briefing members, officials or the press or anyone that cares to listen and I’m greatly relieved that today he said it in public.”
The UKIP leader, who claimed to have the overwhelming backing of the party, added: “Douglas, frankly, must put up or shut up.”
Mr Carswell defected from the Tories in August last year but there have been signs of a rift between the pair for some time as growing support for the party failed to convert into seats in the House of Commons.
Mr Farage briefly stood down as leader of the party after a disappointing general election, but returned days later. At the time Patrick O’Flynn, an MEP and senior party figure, said the leader was “snarling, thin-skinned and aggressive” and Mr Carswell said he should “take a break”.
In a recent interview with BBC Essex, Mr Carswell said: “The Oldham by-election to me said very clearly that I think we need a fresh face.”
But he ruled himself out of running, claiming he did not have the “patience” for the role. Despite the attack on Mr Farage, the Clacton MP said he remained 100 per cent UKIP.
and to view the original of that article CLICK HERE
I trust you note just how widely the call for Nigel farage to break the habits of a lifetime and act ethically with the interests of our Country in mind not just his own self interest.
You will note that despite Farage’s catchy little barrow boy chant of ‘Put up or shut up’ Carswell has made it abundantly clear that he knows he lacks the leadership qualities required to take over.
In his quest to build his personality cult Farage has made many enemies of those who finally saw through him and were either unwilling to continue kissing his **** or doing his dirty work for him = people like Douglas Denny & 1,000s more!
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Clearly Ukip’s Endemic Racism Is Alive not only amongst its rank and file but also its leadership and staff & habitual amongst its associates Within Their EU Group & their nasty fellow travellers.
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SEBASTIAN SHAKESPEARE: Ukip battles to suppress Nazi bully claims amid fears the outcry could hit £5.6million funding
PUBLISHED: 01:15, 19 December 2015 | UPDATED: 01:29, 19 December 2015
When Ukip MP Douglas Carswell said his party needed an ‘optimistic message’ to stop its imminent implosion, a racist bullying scandal was perhaps not what he had in mind.
In a fresh blow for under-fire leader Nigel Farage, the party David Cameron once dubbed a bunch of ‘fruitcakes’ and ‘loonies’, is battling to suppress allegations of racist remarks towards one of its British Asian members, because the outcry could hit Ukip’s shaky finances.
I’m told that Hermann Kelly, Ukip’s European press spokesman, put pressure on party member Joshua Duroch to withdraw his complaint about being insulted with a Nazi epithet by a member of the far-Right Sweden Democrats party.
Under pressure: I’m told that Ukip party member Joshua Duroch (pictured) was pressured to withdraw his complaint about being insulted with a Nazi epithet by a member of the far-Right Sweden Democrats party
The extremist movement, whose founders included a former member of Adolf Hitler’s Waffen-SS, are Ukip’s fellow members of the Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy (EFDD) group, led by Farage.
According to my man in Brussels, the Sweden Democrats are threatening to pull out of the EFDD if Duroch pursues his claim, which could put the future of the group in jeopardy — and lead to a potential 7.7 million euro (£5.6 million) cut in funding for cash-strapped Ukip, which receives the money because it is part of a wider grouping in the European Parliament.
I can reveal that the alleged altercation took place in a pub in Brussels, when Joel Ankar, an assistant to Sweden Democrats MEP Kristina Winberg, is understood to have called Duroch ‘untermensch’, the Nazi term for those deemed racially inferior.
Duroch, a Roman Catholic who supports Glasgow’s Celtic football team, complained to both Ukip and the European Parliament, and an investigation is ongoing.
‘Altercation’: Joel Ankar (left) is understood to have called Duroch ‘untermensch’, the Nazi term for those deemed racially inferior, in an alleged altercation in Brussels. Right, Ukip’s under-fire leader, Nigel Farage
Duroch is unable to comment for legal reasons and Ankar told me he is ‘not interested’ in having a conversation about Duroch.
The Sweden Democrats have made efforts in recent years to distance themselves from their white supremacist origins, when members dressed in Nazi uniforms.
When the party was admitted to the EFDD group last June — despite Farage’s previous reservations — Winberg and fellow Sweden Democrats MEP Peter Lundgren were forced to put out a statement refuting the party’s past.
Unfortunately, it seems to have caught up with them.
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Which engende red the following response from one long serving former Ukip County Councillor, who now sits Independent of Ukip:
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Subject: Re: Nigel Farage’s latest speech in the European Parliament
I feel that suitable donations should be made to the fighting fund from the EU ( UK tax payers funded ) salaries of both Kirsten Farage and Annabelle Fuller.
In the past UKIP appear to have been eager to grab donations from people who could barely afford to pay any monies, so let’s have some transparency and donations from certain UKIP officials with the following information:
1) A complete break down of all donations/ office costs/ commissions paid and any cash transfers from the Ashford Call Centre which was controlled by Nigel Farage and John Moran out side of the UKIP NEC and the local area committee. This should include a full list of all proceeds and bank transfers ! After all this money was donated for the UKIP campaign over the whole country.
2) A full break down of all MEP’s monies / services donated to the party, including that of Nigel Farage over the years.
3) The financial accounts and breakdown of all EU monies that are given to UKIP because it belonged to an EU group in the parliament.
4) Financial records of EU monies by UKIP MEP’s belonging to a Pan European Party.
5) Donations made to UKIP by its high ranking officials. I have enclosed a sample below, but please supply a full list.
A) Steve Crowther salary was estimated at £100,000 per year
B) Will Gilpin salary was estimated at £85,000 per year
C) Lisa Duffy salary was estimated at £65,000 per year plus partner Pete Reeve salary combined with their council salaries.
UKIP is supposed to be a honest, transparent and Democratic Party which detests the corrupt hidden transactions of the EU and so should be open with the above information.
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Chris
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To provide some background to Ukip’s style of corruption and dishonesty with its rigged internal elections, lack of ethics and integrity, dishonesty and obfusscation in handling other people’s money and donations and more:
Do you know why I was expelled from UKIP? – Statement from Cllr Chris Pain
April 23, 2014
I was a long standing party member for 8 years and a hard working loyal activist, achieving some of the best results for UKIP in any General Election. These efforts were instrumental in getting 16 County Councillors elected, thus becoming the official opposition on the Council, after beating the Tories in 9 out of 11 seats in the Boston/Skegness constituency. The prospect of this being UKIP’s first parliamentary seat was very high. Why would the leadership throw this away?
Everything enclosed in this email is backed up by evidence. I have been silent until now, but I believe it is time that all UKIP members were made aware of the real reason that I was expelled, rather than the ‘spin’ and lies that have come from certain persons within the party. When you consider the entire evidence, take into consideration that Nigel Farage has now stated different versions why I was thrown out of the party: for racialism which he did on prime TV, because of the Derek Clark incident. At no time did any of the panel read the evidence that Nigel Farage, Steve Crowther were involved in removing me from the party as early as May 2013, because it incriminated the top people in the party.
Matthew Richardson has also played a part in driving me out of the party. He is the UKIP Party Secretary and Director whilst also being the YBF Executive Director. If you look at their website you will find the following information, quote “YBF is a British conservative not-for-profit training, YBF enjoys close links with the British Conservative Party.”
HOW THINGS HAPPENED IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER
1. THE FIRST THING
Nigel Farage refused to attend the East Midland Training Conference at Skegness in 2013
2. BOSTON/SKEGNESS PARTY POLITICAL CANDIDATE (PPC)
Lisa Duffy, Party Director, tried to take away my PPC for Boston/Skegness at the NEC meeting on the 6th May, 2013. She stated that she and Steve Crowther hadn’t been notified of the hustings. I proved that I had been adopted by producing copy emails which had been sent to them both, by Don Ransome Regional Organiser, giving them the required notice. It was discovered that Don Ransome, UKIP’s paid Regional Organiser, had wiped the emails from his computer. (The Regional Organiser and his wife have had a legal letter to stop them spreading lies and defaming my character.) The NEC voted unanimously in favour of my adoption.
3. RACIST COMMENTS
At the end of May last year my Facebook was cloned and was posted to ‘Hope Not Hate,’ who immediately forwarded it to the Sunday Mirror.
Monday 3rd June, 2013 at the NEC monthly meeting, I was questioned about the posting. I produced several hundred Facebook members’ statements, confirming that they had never seen anything racist or untoward on my site, or elsewhere attributed towards me. These people were linked to me personally so that any post I made was automatically posted to their computers. I had letters from friends of all nationalities stating that they had known me for years and that I was not racist.
Steve Crowther presented a case that these posts had been on my Facebook page and been deleted. I stated quite categorically that the posts had never been on my site at anytime.
The following week, I explained to Steve Crowther that I had evidence, produced by an IT expert, which confirmed that the racialist comments were never on my Facebook.
Steve Crowther maintained that it would not make a difference. I told him of course it did, as obviously, if they were never there in the first place, then how could I have deleted them.
In addition Steve Crowther advised that I had never reported the incident to the police. This was reported to the Skegness Police Force and ultimately passed on to Action Fraud – Crime Reference Number NFRC130500251709 that refers. There was also a full CID investigation into the incident. Mr Crowther, with his ulterior motivies, persuaded the NEC that I was a liar, with his own spin on the situation, without any actual evidence. I was suspended from the NEC for three months pending the outcome of the police investigation of which I was cleared.
4. BEHIND THE SCENES
Steve Crowther sent an email instructing Pete Reeves to remove me as leader of the UKIP Lincolnshire County Councillors, despite which four attempts were made and failed before Steve Crowther finally suspended me from the party. Two ex Conservatives, Victoria Ayling and Robin Hunter-Clarke, were allowed into the party and became elected councillors for UKIP in Lincolnshire, being pushed to the forefront by the leadership. These persons subsequently received an email from Steve Crowther advising them of my suspension. No other UKIP Councillor has received such an email. Victoria Ayling and Robin Hunter Clark then approached the Chief Executive of Lincolnshire County Council to persuade him to remove me from my UKIP Group, at the same time disrupting the Group, making constant attempts to remove me as Leader. They had already been removed as Deputy Leaders, by unanimous vote, because of their continuous disruption and none attendance. They went on to break our groups constitution by organising a separate meeting in respect of which only Councillors of their choosing were notified. All this time false information was being leaked to the press.
In June 2013, all elected Councillors were invited to Brussels. John Beaver was directly involved in a conversation with Nigel Farage during which Nigel stated that Chris Pain was no longer in favour with the party and would soon be excluded.
5. FLAWED MEP SELECTION PROCESS
On the 18th August 2013, I forwarded an email which had been sent to UKIP MEP Mike Nattrass.
In this email Steve Crowther states:-
“This NEC notes the technical procedural failure in relation to the appointment of the selection panels for the selection of MEPs. Further notes that the process was carried out by the following people acting as a de facto selection panel.”
(De Facto means as a fact authority being exercised or an entity acting as if it had authority, even though the legal requirements have not been met.)
Doug Denny stated:
“The appointment of independent persons was to be by the delegated, by an independent sub-committee of the NEC, not by the full NEC, nor by any individual.
At no time was Steve Crowther given delegated powers by the NEC to appoint these people. There is nowhere in the minutes to show he had these delegated powers conferred. The selection procedure using delegated people for the personal assessments is, I believe, seriously flawed, probably fatally so.
The people for the selection / assessment panel were appointed by Steve Crowther without approval of the NEC members in a vote. The whole procedure is therefore flawed if this is correct. The MEP selection process was changed by Steve Crowther against the wishes of the Regional Chairmen and party Activists.”
6. CONSPIRACY – WILL GILPIN, EX CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF UKIP
The intention to take me out of the party was confirmed in a (recorded) conversation with Will Gillpin, UKIP Chief Executive Officer and also several other senior UKIP members. See verbatim conversation below:-
Chris Pain: “Well did Steve have any conversations with you or anything separately or?”
Will Gilpin: “I’ll give you an honest answer which is I can’t remember the details, but I was well aware that Steve Crowther had a lot of activity towards you and had made it very clear that he would like to get you out of the party, and would do whatever he could to achieve that.”
Will Gilpin: “Do you remember when you arranged your conference; you invited me and Katie to speak at it, or me to speak at it. I turned you down because Steve Crowther gave me a direct order that I wasn’t to attend, and that I wasn’t to have anything to do with you, and given that he was paying my pay cheque went along. Just because, Steve Crowther’s argument to me was basically that the conference was a project designed to get you elected, and as we didn’t want to get you elected, we had to do our best to not support it”
Chris Pain: “ I mean was it ever said why he wanted me out the party, has he ever dropped that reason out, or…? Is it down to Nigel or…?
Will Gillpin: “Yeah, it’s all been partly down to Nigel. I think it’s because you’re pushy and Nigel doesn’t like anyone pushy because they might go for the leadership at some point.”
*The lack of attendance of UKIP speakers caused the Gala Night, Sunday training and PPC assessment day to be cancelled. We were also fined for late cancellation. Although Steve Crowther’s actions hampered the weekend, the Conference day was a success.
7. MY RESIGNATION FROM THE NEC
2nd September 2013
I resigned from the NEC. I decided I could no longer rubber stamp what I deemed to be a flawed MEP selection process. I could not condone the way the NEC business is conducted i.e. in total secrecy, not informing the members of its actions, or how people vote. I believe this to be totally undemocratic and with this in mind I typed out my resignation from the NEC.
I also on this date registered my disapproval re Steve Crowther’s lack of integrity and the flawed MEP selection process. I presented the transcript of Will Gilpin’s recording to the NEC. Despite this Matthew Richardson and Jonathan Arnott refused to allow the recording be played, stating that I could forward the recording to NEC members, advising that my complaint against Steve Crowther, re the flawed MEP selection process and the email that I sent to Mike Nattrass, would be looked at during the NEC meeting in October as it was classed as not urgent.
8. SUSPENSION
Friday the 6th September
After producing this information I was suspended from the party on the following by Steve Crowther using his emergency disciplinary powers, and referring to the Will Gilpin recorded conversation. At this stage I must point out that as an NEC Member, (which means I was a Director of UKIP Ltd), I was entitled to record any evidence of wrong-doing within the party/company. In addition it is not illegal to record a conversation in one’s own home.
9. EXPULSION
11th September I was expelled from the group of Councillors. 5 UKIP long standing members supported me as they were aware of previous events, which had lead to the expulsion.
12th September
Notice of a disciplinary hearing to be held on the 18th September. My solicitor chased for case documents from UKIP and this appeared over the weekend. This left only 48 hours which to avail myself of all the allegations. My legal representation and I questioned the makeup of the panel, which could hardly have been classed as impartial.
10. THE HEARING
I was able to prove at the hearing that all the statements and accusations made against me were false. The only query involved an apparent difference in the structure of emails, surrounding the attachments, which appeared to the amateur, to have been presented in different ways. Being untrained in IT myself, I was unable at the time to produce an answer. (After, consulting with an experienced technician later, it appears that these differences relate solely to the type of systems in operation in each case.)
Apart from the computer issue I answered all accusations truthfully and with a clear conscience, despite which I was still expelled from the party. The primary issue at the hearing was the forwarding of the email and recording. I produced evidence that Mrs Pain Senior sent the recording and email’s, whilst I was not in the office and was on site at a Planning meeting.
Matthew Richardson stated at the end of the hearing:
“well we’ve explained in the sense that we agree with the Chairman’s reasoning, that the dissemination of this material is damaging to the party and erm, as a result we have no choice but to expel you”.
At the hearing it was stated by Matthew Richardson that he would be recording the hearing and provide a copy of the recording and the transcript. No recording was provided and the transcript was eventually sent. I can prove the transcript is both inaccurate and has been altered.
11. UKIP CONFERENCE
At the UKIP conference, three UKIP Lincolnshire Councillors were discussing the situation regarding me when Nigel Farage walked into the room. He said nothing for a while then said see verbatim conversation below:-
Nigel Farage: “Pain had caused trouble for the party for a long time” Alan Jesson: “What do you mean by that” Nigel Farage: “He had made allegations against Derek Clark MEP, and that he, Pain, was a troublemaker and not to be trusted.”
Alan Jesson: “What about all the good work Chris has done and Lincolnshire needed Chris.”
Nigel Farage: “UKIP is bigger than Pain, and Pain was not coming back into the party.”
Alan Jesson: “Chris will be appealing”Nigel Farage got mad and started banging his fists on the table
Nigel Farage: “I have no influence over the appeal, but I tell you now that Pain is not coming back into the party”
I need to clarify, at this stage, that the East Midlands Committee asked Derek Clark to stand down as chairman. I have EMCC minutes to prove that Charles Swaby had raised the issue of Derek Clark, as per NEC rules that he wasn’t entitled to be Chairman. There were several discrepancies over Derek Clark’s OLAF investigation where he was found guilty. He had to repay over £30,000.00 back to the EU because of misuse of his allowances. He lied to the committee regarding this fact. There was also his involvement in the Leicester by election and flawed Mayoral candidate. The vote was unanimous by the East Midlands Committee to remove Derek. Derek’s response was to disband the EMCC committee at the start of the meeting, without the committee’s prior knowledge.
12. SUPPORTING COUNCILLORS EXPELLED
The 5 Councillors that supported me had an email confirming that they had done nothing wrong and were ‘in good standing with the party’. Matthew Richardson stated he would come to Lincolnshire to resolve the issue, he never came. These Councillors were subsequently expelled from UKIP for supposedly forming a political party, which was proved at their hearing, not to be the case and confirmed by Lincolnshire County Council and Lincolnshire Echo. They were promised notification by December after my appeal had been heard, about their situation. To date they have heard nothing from the party.
13. APPEAL HEARING
The panel at my Appeal hearing should have been unbiased but two out of the three who sat on the panel were EFD employees, paid and controlled by Nigel Farage.
Unable to attend the hearing due to Council commitments, I had asked for 3 alternative dates to be set, once the Data information that I had requested had been received. Jonathan Arnott stated if I couldn’t attend on the date they had set, the hearing would go ahead without me. This breaks UKIP’s constitution that states that the ‘appellant’ should be present, and also breaks the case of natural justice in the court of law. Data Request information has still not been forth coming to date.
After reading the Appeals panel conclusion I once more discovered that Steve Crowther had lied to the panel. The panel stated that I was expelled because of the email that was sent to Mike Nattrass, which means I was thrown out of UKIP for whistle blowing on the flawed MEP selection process.
I have evidence which shows that Matthew Richardson has instructed the NEC to alter previous NEC minutes to suit Steve Crowthers actions.
One thing for consideration is that I was anti any pre election packs between UKIP and the Conservative party. This is where UKIP members would stand down in safe Tory seats. Nine regional chairmen had supported me in favour of regional MEP selections. I would not betray members or the British public.
If you need any proof of all of the above please ask.
To view the original of the statement above CLICK HERE
There are clearly many many more examples of self serving dishonesty and corruption within Ukip particularly in the upper management and leaderrship group – such as:
Ukip still haven’t given any kind of cogent or responsible response to the facts surrounding their fraud and corruption reported with links CLICK HERE
Then there is the abiding issue of Racism in Ukip CLICK HERE
Here are a few other issues mostly concerning Gawain Towler, which Ukip has failed to sort out CLICK HERE
Regards, Greg_L-W.
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Ukip’s Collapse Continues Apace With Alun Elder-Brown Kent Past Chairman, Secretary & Treasurer Quitting
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looks like #Ukip are falling apart at all levels – their leader after Ukip’s catastrophic General Election and then the charade of his General deGaulle style promise/threat of resignation and his on off posturing, now as he tries to take on another job to stay on the gravy train by fronting for Aaron Bank’s LeaveEU campaign bidding for the £7 Million Government pot of tax payers’ money to be the Leave-The-EU campaign when he has so clearly failed to lead Ukip in domestic politics.
You will be aware of the vanishing act of their one time blue eyed boy Patrick O’Flynn, the fall out over the overt racism of Janet Atkinson and her being caught fiddling expenses on an issue agreed by Nigel Farage.
Ukip having lost their chairman in Cornwall when he resigned due to the lack of support for his efforts to stamp out corruption and anti Semitism seems to have appointed a real clown!
Then we note the sad figure of several senior members of Ukip staff & elected leadership who feel they are far more important than the cause and their ambitions and greed are not being realised so there is talk of them quitting Ukip, probably when they have found another over paid slot on the gravy train!
It seems also that the worm has turned! Gawain having been personally rescued by Nigel Farage after his wife had given details of his sexual interest in his own baby daughter that had cost him his MEP candidacy and led to being censured & dumped by the SW Regional committee after several years of manipulated grovelling & covering for Farage has spoken out:
It seems there is no end to the machievellian behaviour – whatever happened toUkip’s MEP Amjad Bashir who jumped ship to the Tories who like O’Flynn would seem still to draw his generous income & expenses, allowances and life style with few details of any work done just as the Ukip otchestratedmusic team is but a one man band where all are near invisible save their sole publicised performer:
Little wonder that Ukip membership has seemingly collapsed and income has similarly collapsed – there are even rumours that solvency may demand the party looks to Geneva to recycle the never accounted for £Millions that seem never to have passed near the party from the 400 Fund ( sometimes called the 4000 fund).
I also hear that one of Nigel Farage’s sometime ‘shared partners‘ Aurelie La Loux is under investigation by OLAF and that a file has been passed to the Belgian authorities, but you know how long it takes OLAF to do anything – seems they are appointed by the EU to ensure that nothing ever gets done to cut down on fraud and interfere with endemic fiddles! OLAF has a miniscule staff and thus processes very little very slowly!
Times for Ukip would seem to be dire and little wonder so many believe that Farage’s involvement with the Leave-The-EU campaign may well prove catastrophic for that cause as there is no doubt Gawain Towler is correct in claiming Farage is seen as ‘toxic’ and there is no doubt that for every person who supports him there are yet more who will be driven from the cause – the result in a simple majority cause may well prove the reason why that very cause may be lost by Ukip.
At the height of Ukip’s popularity Ukip had reached just short of 4 Million votes, but it must be remembered amidst the spin and propaganda that they just scraped through avoiding total wipeout with one retread Tory MP, now Ukip’s only MP with whom Farage is widely reported as at daggers drawn over policy having joined opposite sides in the Referendum campaign squabble for £7 Million of tax payer funding!
And so it goes on!
Now Kent’s Ukip Chairman dumps Ukip for many of the all too fgamiliar reasons – here is his resignation letter:
From: Alun Elder-Brown <[alunelder-brown@hotmail.co.uk]alunelder-brown@hotmail.co.uk> Sent: 16 December 2015 15:36 To: Elenor Mo; Wardle Mike Cc: Adams Chris; Burberry Rob; Scott Tim; Wardle Mike Subject: RESIGNATION
Dear Mo… (all),
It is with profound regret that I tender my resignation from UKIP with immediate effect. This will mean my tenure in all roles held within the party will cease, including branch and county positions.
To be quite frank, I feel the party is losing/has lost direction and most certainly middle management has become fractious and unitdy.
Redundancies, sackings, no one is sure who does what!
We are, certainly at branch and county level, deprived of any communication from above, especially the NEC and the trickle-down communication from the higher tiers, through the regions to county level is non-existent.
I like structure; call me army barmy but structure and good administration is something that is sadly lacking within UKIP.
At county level I have noticed manoeuvring for power, not something I feel comfortable with, nor will I be party to. My aim was always to defeat the enemy from without, not within.
With regards to the impending referendum, as County Referendum Coordinator, I was never given a remit, nor support; indeed I was given conflicting orders, due to the apparent lack of effective structure.
Furthermore, there is confusion amongst the rank and file as to which of the “Out” groups to support, if in fact any.
This referendum is a once in a lifetime opportunity.
Please don’t foul it up through sloppy administration.
Couple this with my failing health [this will be the official position should the press get word of it] and you will understand why I can no longer play a part.
That said, I will always support UKIP and its premise, that is an exit from the European Union. You can be assured of my vote, both for the referendum and nationally.
Though I remain unconvinced that we need district/borough or county representation.
With sincere thanks for the past few years and the many friends I made on the way.
Kindly, as always
Alun Elder-Brown
Formerly,
Chairman & Secretary UKIP Tunbridge Wells
Kent County Organiser
Kent Referendum Coordinator
Tel: 07794 322994
Ukip still haven’t given any kind of cogent or responsible response to the facts surrounding their fraud and corruption reported with links CLICK HERE
Then there is the abiding issue of Racism in Ukip CLICK HERE
Here are a few other issues mostly concerning Gawain Towler, which Ukip has failed to sort out CLICK HERE
Regards, Greg_L-W.
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Ukip was founded in 1993 & Nigel_Farage’s lack of leadership qualities & dictatorial behaviour capped with Bullying, Lies & Spin Continues To Fail Ukip In Domestic Politics …
Whenever things are going badly for Ukip, Nigel Farage’s cheeky chappy persona slips, and a rather more snarling and unpleasant character is revealed.
Today was one such occasion, after the party’s heavy defeat in the Oldham West and Royton by-election last night.
Before last night, Farage predicted that Ukip would come “within a few hundred votes” of Labour in the seat and could even win it. In the end they fell short of victory by over 10,000 votes with Labour significantly increasing their share of the vote from last May.
However, rather than seek to understand why the people of Oldham had so roundly rejected his party, Farage instead decided to suggest the result had been “bent” by ethnic minorities living in the area.
In multiple interviews, he insisted that mass immigration and the increase of ethnic minorities meant democracy had “died” in parts of Britain.
He repeatedly cited a report he claimed to have read in the Guardian last Saturday.
“The northern correspondent of the Guardian wrote last Saturday that she knocked on the doors of a street in Oldham where nobody spoke English, nobody had ever heard of Jeremy Corbyn, but they were all voting Labour,” he told the BBC.
“So there is a very large ethnic vote in this country in our inner cities. They vote Labour indeed and in one of the boxes last night it was 99% Labour and almost the electoral process is now dead in those areas.”
He went on:
“What I’m saying is that mass immigration, the change to our demographics in Britain… is fundamentally changing politics. The system is widely open to fraud and there is an ethnic element to British elections which we’ve never seen before.”
He also made the same claim on the Today programme this morning.
“There was an interesting report in the Guardian last Saturday where their Northern correspondent knocked on doors on a street and no-one spoke English. They didn’t even know who Jeremy Corbyn was but they were going to vote Labour. So there are some really quite big ethnic changes now in the way people are voting.”
Now before I get into the substance of Farage’s argument, it’s worth actually taking a look at the article he referred to in all his interviews this morning.
The Guardian’s Northern editor is a journalist called Helen Pidd. You can read the article she wrote about the Oldham by-election last Saturday in full here.
As you can see, there is absolutely no mention of a street where “nobody spoke English, nobody had ever heard of Jeremy Corbyn, but they were all voting Labour.”
There is one woman quoted who had not heard of Corbyn and another man quoted who had heard of him, didn’t like him, but was still voting Labour because of the local candidate.
There is a tweet Pidd sent separately in which she refers to non-English speaking Labour voters. However, there was absolutely no mention of an entire street of Labour-voting ethnic minority voters not being able to speak English either in her Guardian report or elsewere. Nor was this mentioned in any of the other reports Pidd filed from the seat.
Farage’s story of an Oldham street filled entirely with non-English speaking, Labour voters is made up. There is no such street. There are no reports of such streets.
Also interviewed after the result last night was Ukip’s deputy leader Paul Nuttall. Like Farage, Nuttall repeated the smear about postal votes and just like his boss, Nuttall provided no evidence. Instead he compared Oldham to Zimbabwe, telling the Mirror: “You have got to ask yourself – is this Britain or is this Harare?”
Now Zimbabwe comparisons are very familiar to anyone who has covered far-right politics in the UK. So let’s not mince our words about this – this is the tactics and language of the BNP. Farage and his party are deliberately using invented statistics and race-based smears, in order to stir up racial tensions and exploit people’s fears.
And instead of continually inviting him onto newsroom sofas to make these claims unchallenged, it’s time the British press and broadcasters finally started calling him out for it.
In the main the British voters are one of this planet’s best informed and most sophisticated electorate and just as when David Cameron was elected as leader of the Tories, to the opprobrium of many of the electorate, those who espoused the responsible socialism, economic responsibility and policies of the Conservative Party still votes Tory – Now despite the populist and utterly impractical style of Jeremy Corbyn both old and new Labour voted for their style of boom and bust borrowing economy, that brings short term comfort and long term collapse, in Oldham this week.
That in almost 23 years Ukip has failed to progress from being of cult status seems to have completely slipped the attention span of those besotted followers of their cult leader
That there may be 1,000 members of the cult and of Nigel Farage’s fan club turn up to a rally overlooks the numbers who do not – clever populism by a competent performer may well fill Wembley, as did the barcking mad self publicist low life liar David Icke and that Farage can emulate him in so many ways does not in the long term bear results much beyond loonie toon propaganda channels, those seeking to attack the British establishment that has served us so well for centuries – It is the degree of nihilism that can always be attracted within any society be that the failures and fools of Islamic terrorism who so betray Islam and the huge majority of Muslims, Oswold Mosely’s mob politics, which do not forget attracted bigger rallies and more votes than Farage’s Ukip yet failed to get MPs and councillors of any stature elected.
Making the transition from mouthy rabble rouser to trusted politician has elluded would be Messiahs over many centuries – Nigel Farage is just such a failed one trick pony – I am sad to say, as along with so many other thinking individuals over the years we had high hopes for Ukip but its inability to break away from its undeniable racism CLICK HERE and its growing band of people who have walked away in disgust CLICK HERE Ukip has utterly failed to make any significant breakthrough, fettered as it is by its lack of gravitas, lack of integrity or ethics and lack of leadership skills or even structure or vision.
A measure of the utter incompetence and lack of leadership, structure or responsibility of Ukip is firstly that after almost 23 years of espousing that Britain Leave-The-EU Nigel Farage and his fan cult have utterly failed to provide or promote a responsible, viable EU eXit and survival structure that is anything like workable, ethical or costed. Nor has Ukip’s so called management team ever managed to provide a reliable organogram – in fact every time there is a call for a manifesto on any matter at the very last minute in a very osentatious round of bullying and squabbling they write a new one that vituperatively renounces the previous one and all too often is in its turn totally ignored by Nigel Farage as he invents policy on the hoof to suit populism and expediency of the moment.
Expedience is the primary driving force in Ukip the expedience of adequate populism to ensure continuance of the income stream and a position on the couches of lazy TV journalists too lazy to expose the utter corruption and inadequacy of Nigel Farage’s failed Ukip cult.
Ukip has not and without radical root and branches pruning and restructuring stand absolutely no significant chance of credible influence in British domestic policy – the rot is so bad and the talent pool so destroyed that without removing at least the top 50 parasites in Ukip who have bullied and lied their way to control Ukip has no future in British domestic politics – that is not to say that a small clique will not find ways to continue enriching themselves at the expense of the public purse with a part naiive part vicious failures claque upholding the cult in return for notoriety and potential rewards.
Regards, Greg_L-W.
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There isn’t much I would say about the Oldham West by-election. In 2001, 6552 voted for the BNP’s Nick Griffin. Today, 6487 voted for Ukip.
It looks to me like Ukip has hit that glass ceiling. Not only has the immigration gamble failed to grow the base in any meaningful sense, it hasn’t dented Labour at all even as Labour is in full civil war. It has parked Ukip firmly in the BNP slot with nowhere for it to go.
There is broad spectrum agreement now that Ukip has stalled and has nothing left to do now except quietly die.
This is a cause for some celebration among a great many anti-kippers and Tories. I just think it’s sad. Had Ukip played it’s hand well it could have been a major new force in politics – and a welcome one. Instead, against all the best advice, Farage threw caution to the wind and set course for the rocks.
It is now tarnished in such a way that it cannot recover. All that time and effort wasted. All those hopes dashed. All because of one man and his arrogance.
I suppose that should be a warning of sorts to Arron Banks. One bad turn and Brexit is buried. A movement tied to Ukip is one that has shackled itself to a concrete block and jumped into the harbour for a long sleep with the fishes.
History shows that Political Parties that permit themselves to become personality cults almost inevitably reach their glass ceiling fairly rapidly viz: The EU’s Roy Jenkins SDP Construct, Liberals aka: Bonham Carter Party, Oswold Mosleyand the like. Ukip has fallen into that trap and compounded the error by recruiting from the mantle of the BNP just consider the level of racism in Ukip CLICK HERE.
One wonders how Aaron Banks made the money he is squandering on Ukip and now due to being part of the Ukip Cult following we see his Leave EU campaign floundering – with all the lack of gravitas and failure to get facts and strategy lined up that Ukip has used to engineer its eventual demise.
One has to wonder at Aaron Banks’ ineptitude, was it that: to make his money he accidentally tripped over a formulaic method that he had little understanding of? Why on earth for instance, when trying to launch a campaign that was supposedly cross party and none would one spread marmite on every item on thwe menu by employing Nigel Farage, just for a quick hit of members?
One has to wonder why one would bring in a FINANCIAL Director from your other business, with zero background in PR, politics, EU matters, history of marketing as ones CEO and then lauch the poor girl to do a front line presentation on TV – providing cringeworthy ineptitude, as she did CLICK HERE. It was astonishingly incompetent of Aaron Banks to throw her to the media wolves without any training!
Regards, Greg_L-W.
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Ukip’s Collapse Continues Apace, As Farage’s long term puppet, Gawain Towler Lashes Out At Farage, defining Nigel Farage as toxic for Ukip!
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looks like #Ukip are falling apart at all levels – their leader after Ukip’s catastrophic General Election and then the charade of his General deGaulle style promise/threat of resignation and his on off posturing, now as he tries to take on another job to stay on the gravy train by fronting for Aaron Bank’s LeaveEU campaign bidding for the £7 Million Government pot of tax payers’ money to be the Leave-The-EU campaign when he has so clearly failed to lead Ukip in domestic politics.
You will be aware of the vanishing act of their one time blue eyed boy Patrick O’Flynn, the fall out over the overt racism of Janet Atkinson and her being caught fiddling expenses on an issue agreed by Nigel Farage.
Ukip having lost their chairman in Cornwall when he resigned due to the lack of support for his efforts to stamp out corruption and anti Semitism seems to have appointed a real clown!
Then we note the sad figure of Michael McManus who feels he is far more important than the cause and his ambitions and greed are not being realised so there is talk of him quitting Ukip.
It seems also that the worm has turned! Gawain having been personally rescued by Nigel Farage after his wife had given details of his sexual interest in his own baby daughter that had cost him his MEP candidacy and led to being censured & dumped by the SW Regional committee after several years of manipulated grovelling & covering for Farage has spoken out:
It seems there is no end to the machievellian behaviour – whatever happened toUkip’s MEP Amjad Bashir who jumped ship to the Tories who like O’Flynn would seem still to draw his generous income & expenses, allowances and life style with few details of any work done just as the Ukip otchestratedmusic team is but a one man band where all are near invisible save their sole publicised performer:
Little wonder that Ukip membership has seemingly collapsed and income has similarly collapsed – there are even rumours that solvency may demand the party looks to Geneva to recycle the never accounted for £Millions that seem never to have passed near the party from the 400 Fund ( sometimes called the 4000 fund).
Times for Ukip would seem to be dire and little wonder so many believe thaty Farage’s involvement with the Leave-The-EU campaign may well prove catastrophic for that cause as there is no doubt Gawain Towler is correct in claiming Farage is seen as ‘toxic’ and there is no doubt that for every person who supports him there are yet more who will be driven from the cause – the result in a simple majority cause may well prove the reason why that very cause may be lost by Ukip.
At the height of Ukip’s popularity Ukip had reached just short of 4Million votes, but it must be remembered amidst the spin and propaganda that they just scraped through avoiding total wipeout with one retread Tory MP, now Ukip’s only MP with whom Farage is widely reported as at daggers drawn over policy having joined opposite sides in the Referendum campaign squabble for £7Million of tax payer funding!
And so it goes on!
Ukip still haven’t given any kind of cogent or responsible response to the facts surrounding their fraud and corruption reported with links CLICK HERE
Here are a few other issues mostly c oncerning Gawain Towler, which Ukip has failed to sort out CLICK HERE
Regards, Greg_L-W.
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Ukip had no interest in rooting out corruption & anti Semitism it seems, so David Lucas, Ukip’s New Chairman For Cornwall’s Great Unwashed Rabble, has been appointed!
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you will be interested to note that Ukip has appointed a new chairman in the South West seemingly he has been selected to replace the last chairman who resigned due to Ukip’s failure to support him in his efforts to root out corruption and ant-Semitism in the party.
We also note from his past comments that the new chairman, David Lucas, aims to attract the great unwashed of Cornwall, of whom he has a fairly dim opinion!
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Ukip on off leader Nigel Farage & Tory tedium Bill Cash Trounced By failed LibDim leader Nick Clegg & Portuguese radical Communist ex face of the EU Jose Baross at the Oxford Union debate on Leave or Stay EU Referendum
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Nick Clegg Defeated Nigel Farage With Rousing EU Referendum Speech At Oxford Union
Former Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg delivered a passionate and rousing defence of the European Union tonight, as he called on Britain’s youngsters to reject the “politics of grievance, of division, of blame, of fear.”
Speaking in an Oxford Union debate on whether the UK should remain in the EU, the ex-Deputy Prime Minister spoke passionately about why Britain should be at the centre of the European project, not outside of it.
Alongside former European Commission President Jose Manuel Barosso, Mr Clegg admitted the EU wasn’t perfect, but dismissed the notion problems with terrorism and immigration would disappear if the UK voted to leave in the upcoming referendum.
Arguing in favour of Brexit, Ukip leader Nigel Farage likened the UK’s relationship with the EU to that of an unhappy marriage, and said Britain could thrive in the world without the burden of Brussels.
But it was Mr Clegg who won the loudest applause from the 500 students gathered in the famous Oxford Union, some of whom had queued for five and half hours in the November cold to get inside for the debate.
Mr Clegg appeared reinvigorated and refreshed since leading the Lib Dems to their disastrous electoral result in May, and in his closing speech said: “It is your choice, it is your generation’s choice. Do you choose the politics of grievance, of division, of blame, of fear, that we’ve heard this evening, that pretty well equates the European Union with terrorism, conflates the European Union with immigration as if terrorism and immigration suddenly disappear like the morning mist if we suddenly pulled out the European Union? What a ludicrous thing to say and what a dishonest thing to say.
“Or you can choose something so much better. The politics, not of perfection, but of generosity. Not of rigidity, but of compromise, not of ideological blame, but of give and take, of the belief that in this wonderful European continent of ours with Britain in the lead we can create a peaceful, sustainable and strong European Union and a strong United Kingdom at the heart of it.”
Mr Barosso used his speech to spell out the ways the EU benefitted from the UK being a member, and claimed the only country in the world which would be happy to see Brexit would be Russia.
Veteran Tory Eurosceptic Sir Bill Cash claimed the EU was becoming increasingly “German orientated” and democracy in Europe was “on the cusp” of falling apart.
He said: “Only 43 per cent of the population turn out in the whole of Europe for the election to the [European] parliament.”
Sir Bill added: “We cannot allow that to continue”
He said: “They fell in love and got married in their late teens. 40 years they’ve been together. In the early days it was pretty good, but it’s been getting increasingly rotten over the last 35 years.
“All the people say to her ‘You must stay with him. Oh I know he’s a terrible bully! I know he makes all the rules and the laws in the house! I know he forbids you from making your own friends but surely it’s better that you stay together?’
“There are some perhaps who tended towards her side and vex themselves with the question: ‘Could she cope on her own? Was she really up to it? Could she manage her own shopping basket and run her own life?’”
Mr Farage then quipped that the couple had been to marriage counselling in Brussels 40 times, and each time “the court ruled in favour of the husband”.
However, the Ukip leader’s badinage wasn’t enough to carry the day, the Union voting 283 in favour of staying in the EU, with 73 against.
Mr Farage drew laughter from the audience when he compared the UK and EU’s relationship to that of a loveless marriage.
Some comfort may be derived from the utter inconsequentiality of the outcome of Oxford Union debates as shown by the events that followed the Oxford Union debating society of Oxford University in England on 9 February 1933. The motion, that this House will in no circumstances fight for its King and Country, was carried by 275 votes to 153.
‘What is wrong with the younger generation?’ was seemingly the general view, though Cambridge University threatened to pull out of the boat race as the two Universities were of such widely differing sentiments!
The Daily Express said of it: “There is no question but that the woozy-minded Communists, the practical jokers, and the sexual indeterminates of Oxford have scored a great success in the publicity that has followed this victory…. Even the plea of immaturity, or the irresistible passion of the undergraduate for posing, cannot excuse such a contemptible and indecent action as the passing of that resolution”.
No doubt the same could be said of the recent vote – though it should be remembered that Winston Churchill opined that the result greatly influenced the decision making of both Germany & Japan!
It is also widely rumoured that those who voted against war had a far higher than national average response to military ‘Call Up’ when the phony war was over – It would seem that The OU may well tend to vote idealistically but act both pragmatically and responsibly. let us hope the same is true today as relative to the 1933 vote.
It is also worthy of note that Neville Chamberlain returned from Munich with Douglas Hume making much of his apparent appeasement of Hitler, yet shortly after landing on his return he and Douglas Hume entered the Cabinet Office to a full Cabinet meeting and before they had removed their coats, and before the meeting commenced and was minuted Chamberlain announced ‘Gentlemen prepare for war …’ the meeting commenced AFTER tea had been served!
By this device Chamberlain bought Britain time for re-armament as had we followed Churchill’s bellicose advice at the time Britain would have lost the war in very short order, not just because our airforce was woefully under equipped but the other services were equally unprepared and neither had we obtained the support of the Commonwealth for the protection of Europe against Union in defeat under the militaristic control of Germany.
Perhaps those who may wish to crow with glee at The OU’s willingness to surrender to foreign and very much alien control both in 1933 & again in November 2015 would do well to learn the lessons of history – we are still in that period of phony war as yet we have no clear date for the Referendum though the smart money is on Autumn 2017 there are still no organised Leave-The-Eu despite the excitable premature ejaculations of the greedy and self important leadership of Vlte_Leave & Leave.EU who would seem to be destroying themselves and each other ignorant and indifferent of the damage they are potentially doing to these United Kingdoms as they scrabble and squabble for the £7,000,000 Government pot of funding for the Leave Campaign, not to mention the huge income that is to be made from data mining and other spin offs and residuals by the less ethical who are now emerging to try to seize the pot!
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Alexandra Phillips Was Head of Ukip Media But Payola Seems To Be Wales! Surely this is hardly an apposite move for Ukip’s head of media – unless it is likely to lead to being parachuted into a key seat in the Wales election race!
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Big Interview: Gloucester’s Alexandra Phillips – UKIP’s head of media
Alexandra, 31, has spent the past few years – the period of the growth of the party from the fringes to a significant force in UK politics – as head of media at UKIP.
The party’s leader Nigel Farage must be the best-known MEP ever in this country and is probably the second or third best known, and most and least liked politician in the country.
It’s all pretty extraordinary.
And some of that incredible rise to prominence is down to Gloucestershire girl Alexandra Phillips.
Alexandra, 31, has spent the past few years – the period of the growth of the party from the fringes to a significant force in UK politics – as head of media at UKIP.
And it seems a pink Cadillac might have had a role in persuading her to join the party and leave her growing career in TV journalism.
Alexandra said: “We weren’t a particularly political family, although we were always encouraged to discuss things and make our views known around the dinner table.
“My older brother Jonathan and I had a game when we would just say ‘Margaret Thatcher’ and sit back and watch the sparks fly – my mother Leslie is on the left of the political spectrum and my stepfather, Johnny, who I call dad, is on the right.
“So it was a bit of a game for us just to say her name and sit back.
“But I was always interested. For some reason, as a small child I liked Tom King MP – there was a political programme on TV I’d watch when I got home from school and I just really liked the way he scrunched up his face when he sat on the benches.
“And oddly enough now, especially considering the party I work for, I loved the word Maastricht. I don’t know why I loved it, but I remember cutting it out and sticking it to my noticeboard.
“I was never a student politician. I studied philosophy and literature at Durham University but my goal was always to become a journalist and I always wanted to go to Cardiff University’s journalism school – it was one of the best in the country.”
Alexandra worked for spells in India and China and Ghana before going to Cardiff for her postgraduate course in journalism and, while covering the 2007 Welsh Assembly elections, made her fateful first meeting with Nigel Farage.
“I was following him on the campaign for my final piece for journalism school and he was with the late Dai Llewellyn in a pink Cadillac, with a bottle of champagne.”
Despite Alex saying her piece wasn’t necessarily that complimentary to the party, when UKIP first asked her to work for them, she refused.
“I was still totally focused on being a journalist and went to Newcastle to work for ITV Tyne Tees, back where I went to university, then came back to Cardiff to work for BBC Wales.
But the party was not to be denied and a few years later Alexandra jumped ship from the BBC to go to work for UKIP
“People thought I was bonkers, going to work for them. But I thought there was a really interesting narrative, I thought that UKIP were going to be the story of politics following the last election.
“I am personally Eurosceptic, but I was also attracted by the overall philosophy of working in the interests of the voter. I didn’t find the party a joke at all, I thought it was going to be a really interesting political narrative.”
Alexandra was once the subject of a rather tart mini-profile on the Conservative Home website, which highlighted a social media posting she made which said that she worked as head of media “for Nigel Farage and UKIP”, It made some mileage of her apparent priorities given the order in which she listed the leader and his party.
But for someone who has done so much to promote Mr Farage, she has a very interesting view of the way he and his party are presented
“Nigel is hugely fascinating but the way the party is presented in the media isn’t really truthful. I see a group of really normal people, not fringe types at all.
“But it’s a Catch 22. People say it’s a one-person party and it’s only Nigel Farage. But then if we try to put someone else up for Question Time or an interview or a political programme, they say no, they want Nigel. And then everyone says that it’s only Nigel in the party. It’s like the broadcasters want someone to have a high profile already – but they’re not prepared to have anyone on to give them that profile.
“It was very interesting during the campaign for the Eastleigh by-election, I was able to say to them, ‘No, you can’t have Nigel, but you can speak to the candidate, or to another senior member, or MEP.
“After the 2014 European elections, which we won in the UK we were saying that. But they still want Nigel Farage. It can be frustrating and I think it’s a bit lazy journalistically. There’s a wealth of talent in the party, but it’s hard to get coverage for that.”
Talking of her background, Alexandra added: “It’s important to say how much Gloucestershire has shaped me in my career and politics. It’s never been a heartland of either party, especially Gloucester, so there’s always been a political conversation, there’s always a discussion of the ideas. And I went to High School for Girls in Denmark Road and Sir Thomas Rich’s school at sixth-form and I think of myself as an Old Richian.
“And going to a grammar school gave me so many opportunities, and that’s why we want to bring them back.
“Both Conservative and Labour hate grammar schools, and won’t talk about selection but they are excellent and I think I wouldn’t be where I am without having gone to a grammar school.”
I challenge her a little on this – suggesting that nobody has a problem with grammar schools, per se, but the issue is what you do with the youngsters who fail to get in at 11. In the past they were shunted off to secondary moderns and treated as factory fodder.
I wouldn’t have imagined that Alexandra especially boned up on education policy for a conversation with me and yet she said: “We need to change the whole education system, so that we have selective education and better vocational education, to give everybody the best chance. It’s not just bringing back grammar schools but improving vocational education to get rid of the stigma for it.
” The drive to send everyone to university started by the Labour Party has done great harm, and the idea that vocational education is less valuable has, too. We need a broad education system which provides the best for the individual.”
At the moment Alexandra is running the media operation in Wales leading up to the Welsh Assembly elections in May.
And she’s clearly very comfortable over the bridge.
I ask whether she’d consider standing herself.
“I’m thinking about it, certainly. There’s a whole process to go through, but I’m not ruling it out and I think my TV experience e would be useful. If I did stand I think I’d like to stand where I am now in Cardiff. It’s something to consider.”
Who knows what will happen to UKIP? Maybe Nigel Farage will be remembered for the brevity of his prominence. Maybe not.
But I wouldn’t bet against hearing more from Alexandra Phillips.
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