Mr Carswell is Ukip’s only MP, after retaining his seat at the election in May. He believes that Mr Farage has now run his course as leader and called this week for a “fresh face” to take over.
Musing aloud is all very fine and dandy but it’s not very helpful if you are trying to maintain some sort of party direction and discipline
Steve Crowther, Ukip chairman
However, the timing of Mr Carswell’s comments has infuriated Mr Farage’s supporters and dismayed Mr Crowther, who warned that Ukip’s National Executive Committee would demand answers from him at its next meeting in January.
Mr Crowther said the Clacton MP was “absolutely wrong” to suggest that a disappointing result in the Oldham by-election – which Ukip had hoped but failed to win – showed Mr Farage had taken the party as far as he could.
Nigel Farage at Ukip’s offices in Oldham
Mr Crowther told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme that the row would be discussed when the party’s 19-strong National Executive Committee – on which both the politicians sit – meets next month.
“This is very unhelpful. As a party chairman it is not something I relish,” he said.
“There is a time and a place to have discussions about the leadership of the party but I don’t think that on the eve of an EU summit or on the BBC is either of them.
“This news was released on the day we were celebrating the utter collapse of the Prime Minister’s negotiating position in Europe.”
Political life was “not without its speed bumps”, said Mr Crowther, but the party was in good shape.
I made the jump ? and now I’m an MP! Photo: Andrew Matthews/PA Wire
“Broadly speaking we are continuing to progress: we took control of a council; we had four million votes in the general election; our poll ratings are holding up since the general election against all predictions.
“Political life is not without its speed bumps.”
Asked what he thought were the motivations for Mr Carswell – who insists he does not want the leadership, Mr Crowther said: “Douglas is an independent thinker. It’s his principal characteristic as a politician. “He is just voicing his view.
“But, as I said, musing aloud is all very fine and dandy but it’s not very helpful if you are trying to maintain some sort of party direction and discipline.”
He went on: “All political parties have conversations about how it’s going. But these are things that ought to be held within the party.
“Douglas is a member of the National Executive Committee and the NEC will be wanting to speak to him about this in January.
“They will be wanting to talk about the thing we want to do, which is to run a really coherent and cohesive campaign to leave the European Union. And this has been going very well. The polls are moving in our direction.”
Mr Carswell’s demand for a “fresh face” at the head of the party drew a “put up or shut up” retort from leader Nigel Farage, who hinted that the ex-Tory’s future in Ukip was under threat.
In response to the article above you will note the staggering dishonesty of little Douglas Denny and his astonishingly thick skin, for as the better informed reader will be aware it was this particular little man who not only supported Nigel Farage devoutly for many years but in fact acted as his bag carrier, fixer and resident fool!
Clearly Douglas Denny could for many years have brought down Nigel Farage but being so embroilled in the corruption over which Nigel Farage presided for so many years Douglas Denny dare not speak out for fear of the consequences to himself were he to provide the evidence and details he engineered for Nigel Farage.
Douglas Denny is a liar, a fraud and a fantasist who has taken many years before plucking up his courage and in shame reitterating and confirming what I was publishing well over 10 years ago and which he did much to dishonestly suppress for his personal gain.
That said it is worth following his febrile steps at trying to pretend he is making some sort of revalation when all who know Ukip well and its history have led the way for him! Douglas Denny’s political accumen is as miniscule as his ethics and integrity, however you may be amused with his attempt at catych up as he vaulte faces!
Subject: UKIP. Farage. Carswell and the future.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 13:35:16 +0000
Dear ex-colleagues, political associates and friends,
What I predicted is coming to pass:-
….the slow decline, the gnawing destruction by evisceration, and eventual oblivion of UKIP as a potent political party in Britain.
How and why is this coming to pass? …as I also foresaw and predicted long ago:- …by the odious narcissism and total egotism of one man – Nigel Farage. Everyone in the country can see it – except for one person – the perpetrator himself.
Nigel Farage lost in the General Election. He himself said before election day it was end-game for him as Leader if he didn’t win. He didn’t win, but Douglas Carswell did. The obvious and logical position was for Douglas Carswell to become Leader.
Nigel’s hilarious hokey-cokey in-out dance, resigning as Leader (as he said he would) then reneging on that commitment immediately afterwards has destroyed his credibility forever and is without doubt the biggest mistake of his whole political career. The GBP (Great British Public) now see clearly through the thin veneer if they didn’t before, the selfish egotism and narcissism behind it. He is no longer seen as an honest leader but ‘just another self-aggrandising politician’.
The message is clear; and the future of UKIP in no doubt if Nigel Farage continues to insist on taking the party down with him as being the only possible Leader of UKIP…. just like Hitler took his whole country and German people down with his egotistical total commitment to himself – oblivion !
The only answer for UKIP to continue into the future with any kind of credibility, with any form of sensible political power available to it, is for Nigel Farage to stand down NOW and for someone to come forward to unite the party. Douglas Carswell is the obvious choice to come forwards in that role to become leader: he is the only UKIP MP in parliament with the political power to change things there.
It is a tragedy they all seem to forget that it is the cause and the fundamental issues at stake we all should be fighting for and which matters – NOT the egoes and narcissism of the individual personalities involved. Nigel’s time is up – he should make way for someone else. If not – UKIP will eventually sink below the waterline without trace.
It is time for the members of the NEC to say to Nigel Farage:-
It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonoured by your contempt …..
……. in the name of God, go!
UKIP member for 15 years; ex-NEC member for 12 years and longest continuous NEC serving member except for … Nigel Farage.
I shall spare you the tedium of fisking this idiotic letter and its self serving efforts to gag the truth!
Ukip still haven’t given any kind of cogent or responsible response to the facts surrounding their fraud and corruption reported with links CLICK HERE
Then there is the abiding issue of Racism in Ukip CLICK HERE with yet further examples and dwetails being added today!
Here are a few other issues many concerning Gawain Towler, which Ukip has failed to sort out CLICK HERE you may also wish to consider CLICK HERE and HERE
It must also be considered of note that in 22 years Ukip, largely under the self serving control of Nigel Farage despite espousing Leave-The-EU has done much to enrich its leadership team and staff but little to move Britain closer to the eXit – note Ukip, under either the direct or indirect control of Farage, failed to speak out with clarity or provide well researched rebuttals of EU policy, nor was Ukip an active and visible leader against ANY EU Treaty and Ukip have never produced a responsible, well researched EU eXit and survival strategy – nor even opposed the EU New Constitution, rebranded as The Lisbon Treaty, nor did Ukip offer cogent researched briefing papers on opposing membership of The EUro.
Then to follow this point Ukip and Farage were conspicuous by their absence in the fight against The EUro project – Further you will note Ukip and Farage in particular did much to try to prevent a petition and were conspiring to undermine one of their own MEPs Nicki Sinclaire. Fortunately Nicki Sinclaire was made of sterner stuff and acted with resolution to ensure she overcame bot Nigel Farage and Ukip obtaining some 1/4 Million signatures and a debate in the House of Commons.
Perhaps the following media interpretation of the plight of Ukip may help convince of the fact that Nigel Farage may well have been the making of Ukip but he is surely now the likely cause of Ukip’s demise and he together with many of the top 50 individuals in the party and almost all the staff must be removed if Ukip is to have a future and a new leader of some stature and probity must be found.
Sadly Douglas Carswell has shown himself to be inadequate to the task, not only does he lack the leadership skills but has made it very clear he lacks the political accumen to know when and how to act, though he may be the only individual in place capable of leading the party into the May elections, as there is no one else currently apparent.
Ukip gently implodes with EU referendum finish line in sight
Political phenomenon that drove David Cameron to call EU vote is in decline but forces to which it gave voice remain strong
Nigel Farage Nigel Farage at the European council meeting in Brussels. Photograph: Dean Mouhtaropoulos/Getty Images
Patrick Wintour Political editor
Friday 18 December 2015 20.13 GMT Last modified on Friday 18 December 2015 21.35 GMT
There is a certain delicious irony that in the week the EU referendum bill passed into UK law and David Cameron confirmed he intends to hold that vote next year, Ukip, the political phenomenon that drove him to call the referendum in the first place, is gently imploding.
Its two main leaders – Douglas Carswell and Nigel Farage – are engaged in an open war, the party’s head office cannot afford a Christmas party and morale has fallen after the party failed to make a breakthrough in a byelection in Oldham West seemingly tailor-made for its message. Perhaps familiarity has meant Farage has lost his star quality.
Yet back in January 2013 when Cameron made his momentous speech at Bloomberg announcing the referendum, the domestic and European landscape looked so different.
Ukip had achieved a breakthrough in the 2013 European elections, topping the poll with 27% of the vote, the Conservatives were locked in a civil war about gay marriage and there were real fears that Ukip would deprive Cameron of general election victory.
One poll by ComRes, published in the Independent in December 2013, saw Ukip well over 10 points and, on this showing, the pollsters predicted an overall Labour majority of 110 seats with the Tories down 99 seats and the Liberal Democrats cut to 36. The very foundations of the Conservative party were trembling.
On mainland Europe, the Greek financial crisis was at its height with austerity budgets, riots and EU crisis summits following one after the other in bewildering succession.
Tories argue the current calm shows the wisdom of Cameron’s decision to risk the referendum. If he had failed to ask the self-consciously “difficult questions” in the Bloomberg speech, Britain might have drifted toward the EU exit, and observing the rise of the far right in Europe, Farage-ism could have turned into an unstoppable force. Advertisement
For as Cameron repeatedly argued in this week’s European summit, the forces to which Ukip gave political expression have not declined at the same rate as Ukip itself. Migration, pace of change, identity and security remain significant issues.
The question arises whether Cameron’s package – with all its technocratic language of baskets, treaty change and yellow cards – will lead anyone to think that he has negotiated the fundamental change he promised. Polling, our old unreliable friend, suggests not.
The proposed welfare reforms look timid alongside the massive global forces driving migration. But that does not mean a majority of voters will decide to leave. Faced by the old choice between risk and security, voters choose security.
At minimum, voters may be grateful that their political masters have given them a choice. The deeper question is whether Cameron’s intervention has prompted the EU to answer its questions about economic governance. In his Bloomberg speech, he said: “The EU must be able to act with the speed and flexibility of a network, not the cumbersome rigidity of a bloc.”
“Now – while the EU is in flux, and when we don’t know what the future holds and what sort of EU will emerge from this crisis – is not the right time to make such a momentous decision about the future of our country.”
Yet many of those issues have been postponed until after the French and German elections in 2017. Some of those most basic questions about the future structure of the EU remain to be answered.
Nigel Farage says Ukip’s MP Douglas Carswell ‘can put up or shut up’
Ukip leader hits back at MP’s calls for him to resign, saying he can get behind party on immigration or leave
Nigel Farage Douglas Carswell Nigel Farage and Douglas Carswell. Photograph: Suzanne Plunkett/Reuters
Rowena Mason Political correspondent
Friday 18 December 2015 15.20 GMT Last modified on Saturday 19 December 2015 00.02 GMT
Ukip leader Nigel Farage has warned his only MP Douglas Carswell that he must stop criticising his leadership and get behind its anti-immigration message, or think about leaving the party.
Farage accused his MP of creating disunity and failing to sign up to its core belief that immigration is out of control, after Carswell said it was time for a change of leadership to draw a line under Ukip’s unpleasant and socially illiberal image.
The row reignites longstanding tensions between the two men ever since Carswell defected from the Conservatives 18 months ago. However, this is the first time Carswell has called for him to resign outright.
Farage hit back at him in an appearance on the BBC’s Daily Politics, suggesting that Ukip’s ruling body would not put up with any more public dissent from Carswell.
Making it clear he was not going to fight to keep his single elected MP, Farage said: “He’s one person. So what? Every single time there is a Ukip conference it finishes with a story of disunity and it is all being caused by one person. And frankly, I think it’s going to have to end. He’s going to have to put up or shut up.
“Either he accepts Ukip is unified, not just behind its leadership but behind believing controlling our borders and dealing with immigration is a fundamental issue in British politics, either he’s going to have to accept that or do something different. The stories you need to read, in one handy email Read more
Asked if Carswell would leave the party, Farage said: “I don’t know what he wants to do. It will not be me who makes these decisions it will be Douglas that makes these decisions.
“We know he agrees with us on the question of EU membership. The difficulty is that we think controlling immigration, having an Australian-style point system is the right way forward. He seems to feel it’s a bit too awkward to talk about these things…. He’s been a part of it but he must decide whether he wants to continue to be a part of it.”
Pressed on whether Carswell would have to leave if he will not curb his criticisms, Farage said: “We cannot have and I don’t think the NEC will allow one individual to give an impression to the country that Ukip is divided when actually it is very united.” Advertisement
The Ukip leader also claimed to have the unanimous support of his party’s national executive, his MEPs and 91.4% of Ukip voters based on a recent opinion poll.
Carswell has ruled out running for the leadership himself but believes the party needed a fresh face to get to the “next level” of electoral success.
Although he praised Farage for growing the party, he also said that sometima startup “needs to change gear and to change its management”.
He made the comments an interview with BBC Essex as part of a documentary, in which he also criticised Farage for suggesting Ukip’s failure to challenge Labour in the Oldham byelection was linked to fraudulent postal votes.
“Let me put it another way: I don’t want to wake up the morning after the European referendum and hear people saying ‘it was the postal votes’.”
He added: “If Ukip becomes that – that optimistic, sunshine, smiley, socially liberal, unapologetically free-market party – we will break out from the 13%, we will break out from being the also-rans in Oldham to being the winner.”
There has been tension between the two for a while, and it bubbled over during the summer in a row about party funding, Carswell’s criticism of Farage’s comments about migrants with HIV and again at Ukip’s conference over the party’s decision to back rival anti-EU campaigns.
Farage told the BBC: “It hasn’t hit me cold – he has been saying this privately for some months.” However, the Ukip leader insisted the party was “very united”.
“We have one person who disagrees with my leadership. Douglas Carswell is out on a limb.”
The roots of the argument are Farage and Carswell’s differing approaches to the EU referendum, in which the Ukip leader wants to focus on the dangers of migration to the UK. In contrast, Carswell takes a more liberal view of immigration and is working on a more cross-party basis on the Brexit campaign.
Many Tory Eurosceptics and some within Ukip are worried that Farage is too divisive a figure to be associated with the EU exit campaign.
Farage initially stepped down after failing to win his target seat of South Thanet at the general election. However, he changed his mind, prompting a bout of infighting in the party.
At the time, Carswell suggested Farage needed to “take a break” and Ukip MEP Patrick O’Flynn described the leader’s style as snarling and aggressive.
UKIP IN MELTDOWN AS FARAGE TELLS CARSWELL TO ‘PUT UP OR SHUT UP’
Carswell says the party needs a ‘fresh face’ as leader
December 18, 2015, By Josh Pettitt
Nigel Farage has told UKIP’s only MP to “put up or shut up” after calling for the party leader to quit.
Douglas Carswell blamed Mr Farage for UKIP’s unpleasant image and the party’s poor performance in the Oldham by-election this month.
The MP for Clacton blasted the UKIP leader for blaming the result – which saw UKIP come a distant second – on “bent” postal votes and called for a “fresh face” at the top of the party.
‘HAVING A GO AT ME DAILY’
But this morning Mr Farage hit back, telling Sky News: “He has been having a go at me every single day since the general election, it’s just that he has been doing it in private, briefing members, officials or the press or anyone that cares to listen and I’m greatly relieved that today he said it in public.”
The UKIP leader, who claimed to have the overwhelming backing of the party, added: “Douglas, frankly, must put up or shut up.”
Mr Carswell defected from the Tories in August last year but there have been signs of a rift between the pair for some time as growing support for the party failed to convert into seats in the House of Commons.
Mr Farage briefly stood down as leader of the party after a disappointing general election, but returned days later. At the time Patrick O’Flynn, an MEP and senior party figure, said the leader was “snarling, thin-skinned and aggressive” and Mr Carswell said he should “take a break”.
In a recent interview with BBC Essex, Mr Carswell said: “The Oldham by-election to me said very clearly that I think we need a fresh face.”
But he ruled himself out of running, claiming he did not have the “patience” for the role. Despite the attack on Mr Farage, the Clacton MP said he remained 100 per cent UKIP.
and to view the original of that article CLICK HERE
I trust you note just how widely the call for Nigel farage to break the habits of a lifetime and act ethically with the interests of our Country in mind not just his own self interest.
You will note that despite Farage’s catchy little barrow boy chant of ‘Put up or shut up’ Carswell has made it abundantly clear that he knows he lacks the leadership qualities required to take over.
In his quest to build his personality cult Farage has made many enemies of those who finally saw through him and were either unwilling to continue kissing his **** or doing his dirty work for him = people like Douglas Denny & 1,000s more!
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