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A Snippet of FACTUAL COMMENT on UKIP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 10/11/2012

A Snippet of FACTUAL COMMENT on UKIP
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A Snippet of FACTUAL COMMENT on UKIP, made on a public Forum controlled by UKIP, by Geoffrey Collier!!

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in reading this snippet of factual comment, let us remember that Geoffrey Collier is one of UKIP’s many long standing members who wage a long drawn out battle to clean up UKIP, eradicate the endemic corruption, seek to introduce ethics and professionalism and generally make UKIP fit for purpose.What is important to remember is that not only is he still a member of UKIP, (which I have NEVER been) though there is little doubt this is based on hope over experience, he was one of UKIP’s most successful Branch Chairmen EVER – both in the gain in size of his branch, the size and the income generated by his branch.

It must be with some embarrassment and a great deal of sadness that he comments as he does – seeing his hopes for an independent Britain so exploited and befouled by UKIP’s leadership clique and their claque of liars, cowards & fools at and close to the top.

“It may be wise for Mr McGough to remember that it was his friend Andrew Smith who provided evidence to the Electoral Commission which assisted their case against UKIP in obtaining a conviction for accepting impermissible donations.

That same Mr Smith considers that he has the necessary qualities to become a Police Commissioner. Sadly, this is the background against (which) we labour for our cause.

The EU budget debate has collapsed; and we have candidates in police commissioner and parliamentary by-elections next Thursday.

Does the level of debate which we have on this thread suggest that important matters are afoot? If Mr McGough is a sound example of the NEC members, can we expect to remain a serious source of talent to extricate this nation from the E.U.?

People have worked hard for years against the consequences of ‘being in Europe’, only to see corruption, stupidity and ignorance frustrate their efforts from the very same NEC which supposed to be offering leadership.

UKIP has a good case; a good membership, but moral and intellectual poverty among the leadership. That cannot be seriously doubted”.

Geoffrey Collier is far from alone in his sadness at such an unprincipled and self serving betrayal by the scoundrels who have taken control of the party that so many of us had high hopes of. It is that dishonesty, self serving self enrichment and total lack of honour or ability amongst UKIP’s leadership and its claque that drives many of us to STILL try to clean up UKIP and effect a root and branches prunning of the dead and corrupt matter in the party.Even in forest management to TRY to control die back harsh remedial action and constant copicing is required – Politics is no different as disease and corruption are prone to become endemic in pursuit of the favoured places at the troughs on the gravy train and like rats in a corner those feeding at the troughs will take any dishonest, corrupt, sordid and dispicable action to keep their snouts in the trough it would seem.

Farage makes much of his desire to see Denis McShane in prison for his corruption of the public purse but let us consider the extent of self enrichment Farage has indulged himself in from that same purse be it paying his wife £30K a year, travelling widely for pleasure whilst6 failing to acquit his duties of leadership, transparency and professionalism.

Let us not forget Farage wittingly borrowed stolen money from Tom Wise to settle his own debts and it was not repaid. Let us not forget that Nigel Farage has never been able to show where over 85% of the monies raised by Ashford vanished (UKIP’s most successful fund raiser HE called it!), nor has Farage ever shown where over £1/4Million vanished, seemingly trousered, obtained from the public purse for a petition that was never carried out.

Let us also note that Nigel Farage was, like Denis McShane, found guilty of obtaining money from the public purse and using it for unacceptable purposes – Farage himself was ordered to repay some £11,000 thus purloined!

More recently Derek Clark lied, cheated and abused the system to the tune of over £30,000 which he was forced to repay – Farage has failed to censure this theft or the lies surrounding it nor has he issued an apology for the behaviour of the liar and low life Derek Clark or UKIP staff for the lies about myself, my blog or that of other UKIP supporters making efforts to expose the corruption & make UKIP fit for purpose.

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UKIP’s Dishonourable Dishonesty is Omni Present!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 10/11/2012

UKIP’s Dishonourable Dishonesty is Omni Present!
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UKIP’s Dishonourable Dishonesty is Omni Present!
As shown by the re-emergence of details of UKIP’s sordid behaviour years after the even on Google Alerts & searches!!

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Hi,
It is interesting to note that this article from The Junius Blog came up on a Google Alert recently:

26 March 2010

UKIP: Mark Croucher/UKIP and the Court Judgement against them

We have already published some of the facts behind the Croucher/Nuttall/UKIP attempt to bankrupt Greg Lance-Watkins and thus silence his blog. See: LINK & LINK

That Croucher or Nuttall were too cowardly to attend the court is an established fact.

That this was a UKIP action is also an established fact. The odious Paul ‘Benito’ Nuttall had provided evidence to support Croucher’s copyright ownership of the photos in question. This was done in his capacity as UKIP Chairman.

That the Junius Team is still celebrating Croucher’s humiliating defeat is also an established fact.

The Mark ‘Friar Tuck’ Croucher is putting on weight and has lost even more hair due to stress is also an established fact. But where is UKIP’s leadership when you need them for support? The poor little lad!

His copyright case against the BNP is also pending. At this rate Croucher will be bankrupt within weeks.

We are now pleased to publish the judgement against Croucher/ UKIP in full:

Note of Judgment

His Honour Judge W Gaskell stated that this was an application by the defendant to strike out the claim. He stated that today was the trial date and that the claimant was not in attendance.

The first question which the Judge had to address was whether he could be confident that the claimant was aware of the hearing date.

He stated that the matter had previously been listed for trial on 27th January 2010. This had been vacated and directions were given, including a new trial window. Notice was given on 15th February 2010 stating that the trial had been listed on 18th March 2010.

The Judge had also heard that the defendant’s solicitor had spoken to the claimant the previous Friday and mention was made of today’s hearing date during the call. The Judge stated that an email had also been sent to the claimant setting out the various matters which needed to be resolved prior to the trial.

That email was in the bundle at page 139 and carried the date 15th March 2010.

The Judge had also heard evidence that the claimant was currently active on the internet and clearly there was an overwhelming likelihood that he had access to his emails.

The Judge then set out the background to the claim. He stated that the claimant alleged that monies were due to him in respect of the use of 3 photographs used by the defendant on his internet blog.

The 3 photos were of head and shoulders of UKIP members (IJ later corrected the fact that one of the photos was a full body photograph of Nigel Ferrage).

The first issue was whether the claimant was the owner of the copyright and the photographs. The Judge noted that Mr Croucher would have to overcome the fact that it seemed that the photographs had been taken by him in his capacity as an employee or at least as an agent employed by UKIP.

The Judge then turned to the issue of quantum. If the claimant managed to overcome the issue of appropriate ownership the issue of quantum arises. The Judge noted that the claimant claims £8,000. On the material provided to the Judge, and he noted that he had not heard evidence from the claimant, he stated that it appeared to be grossly excessive.

The Judge referred to the freelance fee guides and specifically to the online prices. The Judge noted that newspapers charge £625 for one year’s use and that business use was £850 for one year.

However, he noted that the use in question was by a not for profit website and stated that he was entitled on the basis of the material before him to conclude that it was highly unlikely that the claimant would achieve anything near that which he claimed. However, the Judge noted that those issues could be put to one side for the moment.

The Judge stated that the fact was that the . claimant had failed to file a pre trial checklist and the filing fee. He had also failed to pay the hearing fee. In accordance with the previous order made on 24th February 2010, the claim should be struck out due to this.

The claimant had now failed to attend Court also.

The Judge stated that he was wholly satisfied that the claimant was aware of proceedings and had failed to take necessary steps in proceedings. He had also failed to attend Court. Had he attended Court and paid the money the Court would have heard the claimant’s claim.

The Judge stated that taking in to consideration the claimant’s breach of procedural requirements and his failure to attend Court and the difficulties he faced in relation to proving liability and quantum, it seemed appropriate to strike out the claim. The Judge therefore struck out the claim.

Having heard submissions by the defendant’s counsel on costs, the Judge ordered the claimant to pay the defendant’s costs assessed at £8,448.50 within 28 days.

Rhodri Jones (Solicitor),
Messrs. Hugh James Solicitors,
Cardiff.

Also see: LINK

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evision said…
i have gone through this blog. nowadays im working from my home as a online businessman. and the above blog is really helpful.

To view the original article CLICK HERE

it is interesting to note that as at today’s date Nov-2012 neither UKIP nor Mark Croucher have had the integrity, or respect for the British Justice system, to honour their debts in this matter which now account for some £13,000+ due to additional legitimate costs incurred in the defence of the rejected case and also further monies spent on seeking to obtain legal redress and settlement of the debt.

It is disingenuous to claim UKIP bear no liability as the dishonest and overblown claims; fronted by the clearly duplicitous and untrustworthy Mark Croucher, personally selected by Nigel Farage who has ‘previous’ for seeking to renege on his debts; were made and conducted in the period of his employment by UKIP in various forms and were supported by one time deputy leader of UKIP and standing UKIP MEP Paul Nuttall and also UKIP Press Officer Clive Page (a convicted sometime benefits fraudster!).

UKIP has made it very clear by their actions conducted at the top of the party that they do not respect British values, nor British Justice and hold The British Courts in contempt.

UKIP and their staff and agents have also given us all an insight as to their dishonesty and unarguably inappropriate lack of ethics, integrity and morality – inappropriate to their aspiration to live off the public purse whilst supporting various corrupt Pan EU political Groups of racists, criminals and low lifes.

Clearly UKIP is unfit for purpose as leaders of The EUroSceptic movement with their vile anti homosexuality, racist, cyber bullying and serial dishonesty.

The abject lack of ehics and professionalism is clearly endemic within UKIP and as such they are clearly unfit for purpose and have massively damaged the EUroSceptic movement in their corruption, lack of honour, unprofessionalism and seeming determination to self enrich their leadership clique supported at public expense by a claque of ne’r do wells salaried or seeking gain from supporting the low caliber and untrustworthy leadership clique, of serial philanderers, drunks and louche parasites seeking to pass themselves off, despite their undemocratic central absolute control, as Libertarian!!

Risibly you will note that UKIP seem to believe their unpleasant and dishonourable behaviour should be a model for the election of Police Crime Commissioners! Many can show undeniable evidence of Crimes Commissioned by UKIP – perhaps they misunderstood the job spec!

For more facts regarding UKIP see both Junius blog and my own http://UKIP-vs-EUkip.com wherein despite every form of underhand behaviour UKIP leadership & its claque have never once been able to show a single consequential inaccuracy or consequentially misleading statement.

I stand by the facts in every material detail in my blog, as shown at CLICK HERE despite the fantasies and speculation of the low lifes in UKIP such as Mick McGough Derek Clark & the cowards too ashamed to use their own names!, and as UKIP has shown they are quick to litigate to try to suppress the truth about them leaking out!

To date NO ONE has identified a single dishonest statement or claim that I have made in any of the 1,000s of blogs regarding UKIP or its leadership clique, the claque of parasites around them or related facts. The same would seem to be true of the UKIP insiders, and others, who publish under the collective of ‘Junius’ most of whom would seek to work in The EU in one place or another and regularly receive factual information from senior and concerned UKIPpers..

Regards,

Greg_L-W..

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Embarrassingly for UKIP Andrew SMITH stands for PCC

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/11/2012

Embarrassingly for UKIP Andrew SMITH stands for PCC

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Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

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The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

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Embarrassingly for UKIP Andrew SMITH stands for PCC ln Essex!

The calliber of the candidates would seem to indicate the irrelevance of the office & the self enrichment potential it offers!!

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Just one week until Essex Police Commissioner elections on November 15

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Andrew Smith, UKIP, 63, from Epping. He has a degree in economics and statistics and is a qualified chartered accountant.

He said: “It gives me the experience to deal with the huge budget cuts facing Essex Police, which are not going to go away anytime soon. I want Essex Police to be trusted by the public and to refocus on the side of the victims.”

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    by Greg_L_W

    Thursday, November 8 2012, 10:28PM

    “Hi,

    do not forget that Andrew Smith as the nominal treasurer of UKIP legged it, unable or unwilling to answer some 29 simple questions about the accounts and left the accounts in disaray with boxes of unexplained receipts & no work done.

    It was also the thoroughly duplicitous Andrew Smith who eMailed UKIP chums as to how they could/should deliberately dupe The Electoral Commission in a seeming act of fraud and electoral criminality.

    It was also Andrew Smith who seized control of a UKIP committee and placed a proven liar & cheat on it as his main defender!

    It was also Andrew Smith who engineered the departure of a UKIP employee who threatened his apparent scams.

    It was also Andrew Smith who failed to show that less than 15% of the money raised in a UKIP fund raising scam reached the party.

    I appreciate the irrelevance of these PCCs and their lack of control for their £85 to 100K incomes but even so a man of so little integrity as Andrew Smith would not even be able to pretend to ethical values!

    Regards,

Greg_L-W..

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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.

They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then  still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS: ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.

Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!

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TFA, UKIP & Atkinson’s views on Farage!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/11/2012

TFA, UKIP & Atkinson’s views on Farage!
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The Freedom Association‘s annual McWhirter Lecture, UKIP & Rodney Atkinson’s views on Nigel Farage!!!

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I was amused at just how unpopular this little chap seems to have made himself – possibly due to his associations!

I was mailed this item which may interest you!

—– Original Message —–

Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:12 AM

Subject: The Freedom Association’s Annual McWhirter Lecture 2012

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The Freedom Association

 

The Freedom Association

  31st October, 2012

 

Dear Mr. Atkinson,

 

 

The Freedom Association requests the pleasure of your company at its annual

McWhirter Lecture 


to be delivered by

Mr Nigel Farage MEP
Leader of the UK Independence Party 


The Lecture will be followed by a drinks reception. 

 

Time and Date

Monday 3rd December 2012

6 to 7:30pm 

Venue
Queenborough Room
St Stephen’s Club
34 Queen Anne’s Gate
London SW1H 9AB


Admission  
£20 (Members)
£25 (Non-Members)

 To purchase your ticket please phone Sharon Jones (Office Manager) on 01242 231333.  
If you would prefer to send a cheque then please make it payable to The Freedom Association and send it to:
The Freedom Association
Richwood House
1 Trinity School Lane
Cheltenham
Gloucestershire
GL52 2JL

Please remember to include your name and address in your correspondence so that we can post the tickets to you.  

  

I look forward to seeing you on the 3rd of December. 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

Simon Richards
Director

The Freedom Association

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To which I note the response from Atkinson as follows!

Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 10:27 AM

Subject: Norris would not have approved of Farage giving McWhirter Lecture

 

I am afraid Norris would not have approved of Farage giving a lecture associated with his name.

 

Norris, myself and Michael Holmes fought against the kind of shenanigans orchestrated by Farage in UKIP and left the party as a result of

his behaviour. You are dishonouring Norris’s name by inviting Farage to speak.

 

I will NOT be coming.

 

Rodney Atkinson

Now let us look a little closer:

It would seem that the directors of The Freedom Association have invited Nigel Farage to speak to their members as this years McWhirter Lecture, which of course does not endorse the topic nor of course could it be inferred that it grants the endorsement of Norris McWhirter to any event subsequent to his last fateful tennis game when he died, several years ago.

TFA are largely emasculated as an organisation ever since it was corrupted by its Chairmanship by the discredited and untrustworthy Christopher Gill. The position was little helped by regular contributions from Gerard Batten whose over efforts at what would seem to be incitement to racial hatred with his anti Islamic articles which are well documented CLICK HERE

Considering the response to the invitation in a circular to be a paying guest we note:

Subject: Norris would not have approved of Farage giving McWhirter Lecture

Preumably this would have read ‘In My Opinion’ were not the title bar limited

I am afraid Norris would not have approved of Farage giving a lecture associated with his name.

As a personal opinion it is as valid as the next but to be sure Norris McWhrter in a long and very successful career shared his name with some very strange causes and let us face it to share ones name in publications where the author writes his own forwards telling all how very clever and well informed they are is indeed and indication of Norris McWhirter’s broad minded approach to the issues of self determination, liberty and protest.

I understand his name was also abused by it being added as a patron of one particularly bizarre organisation set up AFTER his death!

Norris, myself and Michael Holmes fought against the kind of shenanigans orchestrated by Farage in UKIP and left the party as a result of this behaviour.

Having shared platforms at speaking engagement with Norris McWhirter I am morally certain he was never a UKIP member and nor did he ever claim to be – perhaps like The Mormons Mr. Atkinson seeks to convert the dead to his cult!

My memory may be at fault but as I recall surely Rodney Atkinson threw his toys out of his pram when defeated in an election, by a very small margin, by Jeffrey Titford who thus became the party leader.

Many in UKIP believed that the support of leading journalists such as Bill Jamieson and Christopher Booker was a far greater asset to UKIP than Rodney Atkinson and what seemed to be his somewhat obsessive anti German cult following who believed all EUrope’s ills were a deep Nazi plot – a view that many realised would destroy the EUroSceptic movement.

I myself, though never a UKIP member and never in anyones political control or pay was very much of the opinion that Rodney Atkinson was hugely outclassed in a leadership bid by Jeffrey Titford, ineffectual as he would clearly be he was what many of us considered a safe pare of hands after the period of great divisions brought about by Michael Holmes.

I, like Christopher Booker and Bill Jamieson was convinced Atkinson was a totally unsuitable candidate for leader, not least of all because of the dishonesty of some he gathered around him, and in the interest of EUroScepticis at the time I circulated two separate letters to every UKIP member stating my personal opinion and reasoning over my own signature and providing my eMail & street address and phone number – not for me the actions of low lifes and cowards to dishonestly spread gossip and lies whilst sheltering in anonymity.

Many will remember Michael Holmes, who Atkinson attributes actions to, who gained control as leader of UKIP in a period when UKIP was VERY short of money and as I recall he made a large donation to the party – few realised that he fairly rapidly and somewhat clandestinely redeemed his very public donation, likely with interest!

Much of Michael Holmes’ apparent credibility was it seems obtained by his particularly imaginitive entry in Who’s Who which bore very little relationship to fact I gather!

In terms of fanciful comment this would seem to be a trait of Mr. Atkinson’s as he claims Norris McWhirter left the party – a party of which he was not a member!

Atkinson himself left the party (was he a member?) having been defeated by Jeffrey Titford and having been legitimately and politically out maneuvered.

Michael Holmes did NOT leave UKIP until, as a UKIP MEP, it became expedient on health grounds after a fairly substantial stroke.

 You are dishonouring Norris’s name by inviting Farage to speak.

It is for the reasons that have manifest yet again that I feel my decision to act to oppose Atkinson’s efforts to gain control of UKIP were are totally vindicated – sadly UKIP has never managed to attract anyone of suitable caliber as a leader either then, before or since!

I would hasten to add, as I am sure Nigel Farage, were he to have an honest moment, would confirm both my comments above and also the fact that I supported his own position and to this day my opinion is unchanged – that being that I have and do support Nigel Farage as UKIP’s performing monkey and media personality but he will confirm that I have consistently told him he could count on my implacable opposition to his status were he to aspire to or obtain leadership of the party.

Nigel Farage very clearly lacks the intellect, the OQ, the leadership skills, the integrity, the morality, the probity or the ethics to be leader of almost anything – least of all a British Political Campaign for it is clear UKIP has absolutely no role and less ability as a political party – a fact the British public has shown very clearly that it agrees with!

To this day after almost 20 years UKIP has failed on almost every count and are almost totally rejected in the field of domestic politics – currently holding less than 30 serious political positions by election, out of some 19,500 available!

Rodney Atkinson goes on to state:

I will NOT be coming.

A petulant comment which I doubt will perturb anyone of any sense. It is not as if anyone had asked him to do other than sit in an audience and listen to The Freedom Association’s directors chosen guest speaker.

Is this merely pique at not being asked and missing out on being able to charge for speaking and having full editorial control, which of course would have once again led to the event running at a huge loss for the organisers, as with Sovereign Britain’s event at which he spoke!

Little wonder that this correspondence was deliberately supplied to me presumably in some contempt!

Just for the record I can think of better things to do on the evening of 03- Dec-2012 and will not be wasting £25 at a UKIP influenced organisation like TFA!

Regards,

Greg_L-W..

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UKIP: Missing Targets – Farage has learned little!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/11/2012

UKIP: Missing Targets – Farage has learned little!

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Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

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The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

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UKIP: missing targets

Richard North, 01/11/2012


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The Northern Echo has today an interview with one of my least-favourite persons, the egregious Nigel Farage – celebrating his recent visit to Newcastle upon Tyne in an article entitled: “Setting targets”.

Generally speaking, I actually tend to write less about Farage than I should – in deference to the many active UKIP members, who have their hearts in the right place, and who deserve better than the lacklustre Party leadership with which they are saddled. My basic premise here is that if you have nothing good to say, then say nothing at all.

However, I should not resist commenting on Farage’s plans (or lack of them) for the 2015 General Election, as revealed in the article. Says Farage to Northern Echo reporter Mark Tellentire, “The pace of change over the past two years has been so great, it is difficult for me to see exactly where we are going to be in 2015”.

So far, that is fair enough but, if Farage has been qoted correctly, he then goes on to say: “But if the Conservative and Labour leaderships decide they will ignore Ukip’s messages, then goodness knows what we can do”.

In commenting on this, one could easy become prey to accusation of taking it out of context, but the thrust of his what he says fits with the way Farage thinks and thus the way UKIP behaves. The point, thus, is that any proper political party would be addressing its “messages” to the voting public, for it is they whom they need if they are to get a sniff of power and the insides of ministerial limousines.

But young Mr Farage speaks of Ukip’s messages not to the people but, “to the Conservative and Labour leaderships”. There, we get a brief glimpse into the very soul of UKIP – it is not a political party. It started off its life as a pressure group, and that – under the leadership of Farage – is what it remains today.

Sadly though, the Conservative and Labour leadership will decide to ignore Ukip’s messages, and thence we get the highly revealing glimpse into Farage’s soul: when they do, as they have always done, he doesn’t know what to do.

Ten years ago when, every month, I used to sit across a desk from him, in our office in Strasbourg, he didn’t know what to do – other than stand for any and every passing election. Now despite his publicity describing him as “Britain’s most charismatic, plain-speaking politician”, he still doesn’t know what to do.

Coming to Newcastle, therefore, was not the right thing for Farage to do. He is not the first politician to have done so and foundered. But at least his predecessors had some ideas. He has none of any worth.

The only way he survives, of course, is because his political rivals are equally bereft. But the people of Newcastle – if they hold true to their political traditions – will be unimpressed. In olden days, he would have gone away empty-handed. That may still happen. The Northeast remains the only English region without a Ukip MEP.

To view Richard North’s original article CLICK HERE

IF you are seriously interested in general politics and Britain in particular may I commend Richard’s blog to you as a daily read CLICK HERE

You will find his blog well informed and informative, sometimes challenging and its basis in fact clearly makes reading his blog concerning in the light of the revelations of the general incompetence of those who have set themselves up as our leaders!
Nigel Farage is far from being the only self important politician exposed as inadequate – merely the most obvious perhaps!
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Regards,

Greg_L-W..

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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the Exit and Survival Plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits when we Leave-The-EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our borders.

They also have a duty to put in place contingency plans for the collapse of The EUro & The EU or the wishes of the peoples of Britain to Leave-The-EU.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for over 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the Main Stream Media and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING, at very best if they ALL agreed they would then  still have less than a 10% say in the governance of Britain by The EU.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING towards that unanimous promise!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning to Leave-The-EU for these United Kingdoms and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country & minded that membership of The EU is sucking out the life blood and identity of our Country in a counter patriotic manner and at a cost in hard cash of some £53 Million a day we must consider:

Denying the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs and the no longer relevant MPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour.

Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples, by the peoples of our Country.

It is time that the entire mechanism of governance in these United Kingdoms, which has so clearly failed our Country and our peoples, was radically overhauled and updated to democratic status – failure to change will mean when we Leave-The-EU and/or it finally collapses, as it surely will, we will be no better off as the self same self styled, self enriching clique will be all too willing to betray us as they have done relative to The EU and its fore runners.

To achieve change support rational planning as with The Harrogate Agenda and similar thinking of gravitas.

Demand a Royal Commission on the cost benefits of leaving The EU and of remaining its vassals with a clear ‘Exit & Survival Strategy‘ for implementation OR responsible contingency planning dependent on THEN holding a Referendum on IN or OUT to Let-The-People-Decide!

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