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Archive for November 15th, 2008

#133* – EUkip – The Poodles of War For EUkip!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 15/11/2008

#133* – EUkip – The Poodles of War For EUkip!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

EUkip LEADERSHIP’S DESPERATE DEFENDERS!

Originally Posted by: Michael McGough

It is amazing that the UKIP Team on Eastern have managed to keep the membership numbers stable, despite the mess Reeve inherited. In fact if you look at the membership figs since Reeve became RO the number of members in Eastern Has gone up significantly. This is testimony to allot of hard work being done by the whole team including really good branch officers across the region (most of who don’t have time to post here as they are busy working on the campaigns) and is despite the likes of messrs,West/Baynes/Cole//Harvey trying to de-motivate the members there.
The original can be seen at: http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/558176-post22.html

I wonder if Michael McGough realised that honest men & women would expose his dishonesty if he saw fit to defame those with integrity in support of dishonesty, corruption and self interest!

Gd. afternoon Mr Mcgough.

I am Len Baynes I don’t hide behind a nom-de-plume as indeed neither do you. I would like first to ask you what was the mess that Mr. Reeve inherited ?

I have been a member for 10yrs almost, I with the help of Mr Derek Norman initiated the Cambridge city Branch and went on to start the Fenland Branch both of which are still very viable and I resent your implication that I and the other members you named are working against the betterment of UKIP.

Your Mr. Reeve was invited as a guest speaker at a meeting of Fenland Branch which I was chairing he had been selected as PPC by the Branch and I felt it right he should have the oppotubity to address the branch, another guest speaker was Mr. Peter Cole who I had hoped would give us an insight to the abominable treatment of Tom Wise MEP.bearing in mind innocent until proven guilty I believe.

On seeing Mr. Cole Mr. Reeve like a petulent schoolboy refused to sit at the top table with him because he stated he was not going to be associated with anybody who had dealings with Tom Wise.

As Mr. Reeve was not a member and never has been a member of Fenland Branch I said as Chairman if he would not take his place as a speaker I would ask him to leave, he then condescended to join us at the table, but unfortunately by this time he had upset so many people by his infantile behaviour acall was made for his deselection as PPC.

I then made a mistake and I hold my hands up I called a meeting for a weeks time with a motion of deselection and I was so sick of the inturnal backbiting and petty squabbles I resigned as Chair and my membership. But I was astounded by the backing I got not only from my own branch but calls from as far afield as the west country, west midlands, London and the NW. Mr. Reeves Idea was on my resignation he would put in his own commitee from NW cambs to take over Fenland and he would lord it over the whole of the N Cambs area.

Mr Peter Cole put his name forward for the chairmanship of Fenland and he was unanamously elected on the condition I stayed on as treasurer, such now is the status quo.

Mr. Reeve has done nothing but get peoples backs up by his constant deragation of anybody who disagrees with him , he failed Robin Page after agreeing to sort his papers out for MEP selection whilst robin was in Hospital, he stated that I had not bothered to put any candidates forward for local elections and made that very public before looking at the fact there were no local elections in Fenland at that time.

I am sorry Mr Mcgough you must please get your facts right before you start running people down I and all the people you mention work damned hard and have done for a long time for the ideals of ukip myself standing twice in general elections which does not come cheap. and I will continue to do so .

But I will accept your apology on behalf of the other people you dinigrate and just hope you find time to get your facts right.

The original of this can be read at: http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/558272-post25.html

I wonder if Michael McGough will have the integrity to apologise and publish a correction?

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#132* EUkip – The Poodles of War!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 15/11/2008

#132* EUkip – The Poodles of War!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

EUkip LEADERSHIP’S DESPERATE DEFENDERS!

Originally Posted by: Michael McGough

It is amazing that the UKIP Team on Eastern have managed to keep the membership numbers stable, despite the mess Reeve inherited. In fact if you look at the membership figs since Reeve became RO the number of members in Eastern Has gone up significantly. This is testimony to allot of hard work being done by the whole team including really good branch officers across the region (most of who don’t have time to post here as they are busy working on the campaigns) and is despite the likes of messrs,West/Baynes/Cole//Harvey trying to de-motivate the members there.

Hi,
Michael with the best will in the world you have written self serving twaddle.Let us look at the facts:Eastern Region.

1. Jeffrey Titford MEP who has done very little in the region, now lives outside of the region, has had risible results in numerous elections, only gained leadership due to my intervention and was there as he could be relied on to be ‘pedestrian’ whilst the party tried to heal!

2. Tom Wise MEP who is currently under arrest & out on bail on the grounds of various crimes being investigated – has garnered a huge amount of bad publicity bringing EUkip into disrepute.

3. David Bannerman Deputy leader – a fraud a liar and a cheat with a catastrophic track record of dishonesty. Ex Tory bag man who seemingly jumped ship for better personal prospects. His presence as a serial liar brings EUkip into disrepute.

4. Lisa Duffy NEC elected based upon what was considered to be utterly implausible results and is on the NEC in breech of the spirit of the Constitution, an embarrassing lack of understanding of morality, fails to declare interests on NEC voting.

5. Andrew Smith ex Treasurer, ex NEC due to lack of professional standards unable to answer legitimate questions about the accounts he was responsible for and quit! Personally together with Nigel Farage incurred a Guilty verdict in the courts due to dishonest and irresponsible handling of domations. Currently seeking gagging orders on representatives of members! EUkip await Judicial Review, the direct fault of Andre Smith & Farage, that may cost EUkip £1/2 > £1 Million. Has brought EUkip into disrepute.

6. No. 2 candidate MEP Stuart Agnew abusive and openly states he has put sufficient money into EUkip to buy his position – clearly has an agenda of his own regarding GM Foods.

7. Peter Reeve & Stuart Gulleford – possibly their greatest achievements have been to make themselves reveilled and hated by a significant percentage of EUkip Eastern Region. Both more than willing to manipulate the party and abuse their positions for personal gain.

8. George Curtis a coward and a liar – more than happy to speak out to attack individuals whenever he feels there is a gain and his behaviour will not become public.

9. Michael McGough your good self – lied about your status falsely claiming to be The PPC for Harlow in an attempt to enhance your position as a prospective MEP candidate – failing to correct the dishonesty or apologise for it. So yours and the applications of other candidates were clearly fraudulent.

10. The indisputable corruption of the MEP selection proces from the betrayal of Robin Page to the criminal breeches of The Data Protection Act and its condoning by the leader, the chairman, the NEC & others.
Michael McGough it was your habit to dishonestly mislead during the leadership election seeking to smear one particular candidate, seemingly for your personal benefit by corrupting the election in your favour.Michael McGough you state:

Quote:
West/Baynes/Cole//Harvey trying to de-motivate the members there.

Before defaming these people had it occured that as individuals they have a commonality in dedication to the patriotic belief that EUkip can not achieve the aim of Getting Britain Out of the EU unless it is cleaned up and made fit to be voted for by British citizens of integrity.

In what way are you helping by endorsing corruption whilst willingly excorriating the efforts of honest men and women?

Michael McGough I find your posting disingenuous in the extreme and have quoted only a few examples of why I believe you are publishing bunkum – minded of the possible intent I would conted utter dishonest duplicity.

I hope you will be willing to apologise for your apparently deliberately misleading statement.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#131* – EUkip In Self Destruction Mode!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 15/11/2008

#131* – EUkip In Self Destruction Mode!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

MORE PUBLICITY OF EUkip’s LEADERSHIP WITCH HUNT & SPIN

Hi,

There are numerous inaccuracies in the article below but hardly surprising as having spoken to Graham Dines on Friday afternoon he had written the story based on EUkip’s propaganda and I gather John West, unwilling to damage the Party on an issue which is ‘effectively’ sub judice had refused to make a statement.

You will note that the paper perpetuates the myth EUkip is ‘peddlin’ that Gulleford & Titford have been ‘cleared’ by the police – which is NOT true but the paper has done a bit of its own research proving that OLAF have been passed the active file by the police – one of the investigation numbers is OLAF OF/2008/0764/Titford.

We understand having done our own enquiry that the alleged offences were rightly reported to the police by John West, seemingly in a mallicious act of diversionary tactic, John West and others in the Eastern Region have been become a part of Nigel Farage’s to seize absolute control of the party inventing & creating a ‘Reichstag Fire’ moment.

It would seem that intimidation, ambush and kangarro courts have become the order of the day – could this be to intimidate others in the party not to speak out and tell the truth, maybe even to try to perpetuate the climate of cover-up and obfuscation of other financial and democratic irregularities, even crimes, within the party.

For an aspirant political party to get itself featured in the media as having lied about OLAF and being involved in a witch hunt seeking to censure a man with the integrity to report abuse of funds without fear or favour speaks volumes of just how debased the party has become under the present corrupt leadership team.

Suffolk parliamentary hopeful suspended

By: Graham Dines

A SUFFOLK parliamentary candidate has been suspended by the UK Independence Party (UKIP) over allegations he made against an East of England Euro MP involving improper use of parliamentary allowances.

An investigation by Essex Police last month cleared MEP Jeffrey Titford, a former leader of the party, and his political adviser Stuart Gulleford of any wrongdoing, saying “no criminal conduct” had been found against the pair.

The force had been asked to investigate by John West, who had been chosen to fight Suffolk Central and Ipswich North at the next general election.

However, last night OLAF – the European Parliament’s Anti-Fraud Office – confirmed that the Essex Police decision had not ended the matter.“We have opened a file and we are taking steps to gather all relevant information for an investigation,” said the spokesman.

Mr West, who lives in Wickham Market and who contested the seat at the 2005 election, was suspended this week by UKIP’s national chairman Paul Nuttall pending a final decision by the ruling national executive on December 15. In a letter, Mr Nuttall said: “You reported the former leader of the party to the police, without a shred of evidence.

“You show no remorse for your actions, even though the police have said there is no case to answer and you now openly claim that the same individual is under investigation by OLAF, also without foundation.

“I am also informing you that there have been a number of serious complains made against you, which have now been passed on to the party secretary. I hope you understand that I cannot allow this situation to continue.”

Mr Nuttall, who accused Mr West of bringing UKIP into disrepute, added:
“This is particularly hard for me as I have always found you to be hard-working and extremely likable.”

The Suffolk Coastal constituency party has also suspended his membership. Mr West fell out with the regional party earlier this year after failing to be given a winnable position on the UKIP East of England regional list for the European parliamentary elections next June.

He is now lodged a claim with Ipswich County Court demanding that a £500 deposit he paid should be returned.Last night Mr West, who works for the county council’s libraries service, said: “I was made aware of alleged irregularities and passed them on to the police. I have no regrets about my action.”

The original article can be found at: http://www.eadt.co.uk/content/eadt/politics/story.aspx?brand=EADOnline&category=Politics&tBrand=EADOnline&tCategory=zpolitics&itemid=IPED14%20Nov%202008%2018%3A03%3A37%3A207

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#130* – Is The Desk Removal Man Arriving?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 15/11/2008

#130* – Is The Desk Removal Man Arriving?
Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!
MORE EVIDENCE THAT EUkip’s LEADERSHIP MAY JUMP SHIP

Hi,

I stress this is pure speculation based upon an eMail that has been forwarded to me and a realisation of just how duplicitous EUkip’s leadership are and the terrible mess they have got themselves into with their incompetence and palpable dishonesty & corruption.

The Desk For Removal?

They have betrayed their members, their electorate, the electorate at large and these United Kingdoms Why would we expect them NOT to jump ship having been exposed.

However do consider:

Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:11:28 +0100

From: r666fightforfreedom2@gmail.com

To: dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk

Subject: anti-eu organisation contact information

To join our organisation, please reply by sending a e-mail ( r666fightforfreedom2@gmail.com ) instead of the previous e-mail you got from us. We all have one thing in common, we want to make a difference in this world. Most of you have been watched on de Democracy forum by us, a international anti-eu organisation called Revolution 666 (FFF, Fight For Freedom).

Looking forward to hear from you.

Greetings.

Interesting to whom they have mailed this though I do not have a copy of the reply, so far, but consider the date on which it was received by the desk!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#129 – Gollom’s Pressssiousssss Grovellings!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 15/11/2008

#129 – Gollom’s Pressssiousssss Grovellings!

RE: – #116* – Gollom’s Tarnished Pressssiousssss!
RE: – #114* – Gollom’s lost his Pressssiousssss!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

MORE EVIDENCE THAT EUkip’s LEADERSHIP HAS LOST ITS WAY

Hi,

here is an amusing item mailed to me from the Chelmsford Office of EUkip –

Gollom at his slippery worst!

Subject: Fw: #114ERa – Gollom’s lost his Pressssiousssss! http://caterpillarsandbutterflies.blogspot.com

Ian

This is a tirade of abuse from Lance Watkins. Don’t bother to plough through all of it but the bit at the end is a description of the meeting on Saturday and the contribution from yourself and Bert.
The man is completely irrational. If I were so busy corrupting and manipulating the selection process, how is it that I only managed to come fourth?

Don’t let him wind you up!!

Rgds

S
(Slithery? Perchance)

I wonder since Gulleford has seen fit to claim:

This is a tirade of abuse from Lance Watkins. Don’t bother to plough through all of it but the bit at the end is a description of the meeting on Saturday and the contribution from yourself and Bert.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion but perhaps you would care to circulate an apology for the inferrence that in some way my posting is inaccurate. I appreciate you have difficulty with the truth and slither around avoiding the light of publicity – it makes your distortions and duplicity easier to conduct in thew darkness of secrecy – This seems to be the norm in the Eatern Region with its gagging orders that the duplicitous Andrew Smith, the coward & liar George Curtis, Peter Reeve and others seeking to seize control of EUkip Eastern Region find effective.

Secrecy is such that even EUkip’s lead candidate and Deputy Leader doesn’t even seem to know who he is and lies about his origins.

It is all so disreputable and sleazy! Almost to a man you bring EUroScepticism into disrepute.

Perhaps you could TRY to do something honest for a change and clarify where you believe I am wrong rather than attacking me personally behind my back – worm that you clearly are.

You went on to say:

The man is completely irrational. If I were so busy corrupting and manipulating the selection process, how is it that I only managed to come fourth?

Perhaps you would be so good as to TRY to explain in what way you find the truth to be irrational? Is it that I keep exposing corruption, dishonesty and the duplicitous like you that is counter to YOUR rationality – Perhaps you could TRY to justify your cowardly and unsubstantiated comment.

In answer to your direct question, had it occured to you that the more people came to know about you the less they trusted you and your self promotion by use of your office and the dishonest support of the failure Titford – You will well recal my contribution was most welcome when I ensured Jeffrey Titford was elected leader of EUkip, help without which he would clearly never have been elected, you are all too well aware of the votes Titford had previously obtained without that help.

Stuart Gulleford you are a parasite befouling EUroScepticism – it may come as a shock to you that you are about as popular as Peter Reeve or a pig in a Mosque – Give EUkip a chance leave as a part of cleaning it up – get a real job the EUroSceptic movement does not owe you a living after the years of self seeking damage you have done for yourself and income.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#128 – EUkip Is Just NOT Credible – POWER DOWN!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 15/11/2008

#128 – EUkip Is Just NOT Credible –
POWER DOWN!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

MORE EVIDENCE THAT EUkip’s LEADERSHIP HAS LOST ITS WAY

Attending the champagne launch of the Orbis building, the new headquarters for the offshore wind industry in Lowestoft on Friday 7th November, UKIP representatives Professor Stephen Bush and prospective MEP Andrew Smith were seemingly the only delegates who were opposed to the mad rush for wind turbines………………….more at the source web site above.

Really, Really NOT a Good Idea!

Hi,

Astonishing – Much as I may agree in outline with the sentiments expressed by EUkip on the twaddle about wind power – EUkip would seem to consider the discreditted scheister Andrew Smith is fit to represent them!

This man was EUkip’s treasurer but when asked legitimate questions about the accounts he, as a self professed accreditted accountant, had accepted responsibility for was not only unwilling but proved incapable of answering the basic questions.Andrew Smith abrogated on his CHOSEN responsibility with shameful disregard for EUkip and his professions reputation.

Andrew Smith quit leaving the accounts in an unpresentable and incomplete condition.EUkip is brought into disrepute by Andrew Smith on the grounds shown.Interestingly it was Andrew Smith who, in breech of the law and his duty, failed to address the issue of accepting false and illegal donations under the law.

Andrew Smith, David Lott & Nigel Farage were all well aware that for personal reasons Alan Bown had withdrawn from the electoral role. Further the Electoral Commission approached Andrew Smith as Treasurer and EUkip advising them of the fact that they had received illegal donations and asking them to please regularise the matter.

Please confirm with EUkip’s previous Treasurer and the law and you will find it is the duty of the recipient and NOT the donor to ascertain the validity of donations.Andrew Smith & Nigel Farage are personally responsible for failing to address the matter despite repeated requests and easy steps – thus EUkip is found guilty in the courts and then despite clear warning Farage acts the fool & pretends EUkip won and puts out rubbish about being picked on by El.Com. because EUkip is a threat!!! What with 117 votes (0.03%) in the last Parliamentary by election anNEC where the police have to be called to restore order due to the incompetence of his little unelected puppet chairman – you must be joking.

Whatever Andrew Smith says, as a so called spokesman, after his behaviour merely brings EUkip into further disrepute. This man pretends to being a professional yet it is his & Nigel Farage’s crass and irresponsible behaviour and poor legal advice that has landed EUkip in the position of having been found guilty in the courts and now facing the potential of an enavoidable Judicial Review costing EUkip between £500,000 & £1 Million.

To permit people who have so clearly brought EUkip into disrepute is crass beyond belief – as crass as still being prepared to be associated with David Bannerman who has been proven to be a fraud, a liar and a cheat and acting dishonourably.

When will EUkip start to clean-up its act as we have all seen 97% of the peoples of these United Kingdoms who voted in a recent National poll stated unequivocally that they wished to leave the EU – the people are desperate for a party of integrity, gravitas and competence to vote for – NEVER forget that no other footling area of policy be it education, policing, health or tax has EVER had 97% support so do NOT dilute that by making the mistake of believing policies in other areas are anything but damaging and divisive.

Dream all you like but address the single issue of unity – no policy ANY party puts forward is other than a pack of lies uncosted and other than drivel as unless the ONE policy of Leave the EU is addressed and achieved absolutely every point in a play school manifesto must by law comply with the diktat of the EU.It is childish beyond belief to believe the British Parliament can pass an Act to leave the EU and it is all over. Dream on!

Extrication is as complex and dangerous as intigration.No Party has ever published an exit and survival strategy.eg. How will you make a phone call? The terms of international billing are under an EU diktat.How will you feed Britain?

The terms of quality and costing of every import are under a centralised EU diktat.Idiots like McGough may lie about their status, fools like Smith may run away when caught red handed, Bannerman may pretend to be someone he isn’t but at the end of the day we must consider – What is our exit and survival strategy?It really is more complex than Bannerman’s play school manipulation of EUkip’s Constitution for footling trumped up show trials.

Having read EUkip’s so called energy policy which was drawn up by:

This Report was prepared as a draft Policy Document for the UK Independence Party by
the UKIP Energy and Environment Working Group:-

David Becalick, Robert Beith, Professor Stephen Bush, Gary Cartwright, Mike
Greenhough, Mike Hall, Tim Henderson, John Kelly, Alan Love, David MacDonald,
Clive Medway, Lynnda Robson, David Scott, Derek Smith, and Roger Sutton.
Dr David Scott acted as Secretary in preparing the various drafts and Professor Derek
Smith acted as Chairman.

David Campbell Bannerman as Head of Policy for policy input.

I am surprised that they have not identified an electrical engineer, a physisist, an authority of any sort from the ‘Power Industry’, the cut and paste work is excellent but on what party or individual authority – I appreciate that Prof. Smith chaired the committe but it fails to identify his Doctrine – is he a Gynacologist?

Where is the costing?

This is a first year, end of year, Uni. project of some 15 basic pages – more of an executive briefing.

David Bannerman?
Finally the entire credibility is brought down in howls of laughter by the fact that it is signed off by David Bannerman – an individual of such scientific plausibility that he barely knows who his father is and has a track record of inventing the truth to suit his own best interests.

Sorry folks – JUNK

Regards,

Greg L-W.

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