Ukip Scotland Chairman Arthur Thakaray Embroils Ukip In A Sex Pest Scandal and has to quit!
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Greg Lance – Watkins
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Hi,
I guess it is fair to comment that Ukip are not alone in having sex pests and sex offenders in their ranks – we are all too well aware that politics is, like show business, riddled with such offenders.
However I can think of no instance where someone so seniour in any other party has been arrested since Jeremy Thorpe in the old Liberal Party – which has subsequently all but dropped out of sight with no MPs, no MEPs and just a few councillors of little note left.
For Ukip to have its Scottish Chairman arrested is significant – even if Ukip is all but insignificant and little more than an embarrassment north of the border!
Ukip has been pretty much a disaster in Scotland since Heather Conyngham was dispatched to Scotland with virtually no resources and dependent on her personal skills to drag Scotland into existence for Ukip. Then Ukip Scotland had the embarrassment of internal feuding, the incautious move of permitting Tom Wise to part fund the operation from his expenses/allowances as an MEP in the East Midlands, not to mention a period under the charmanship and lead of the implausible and scattly Christopher Monkton culminating one would have hoped with the embarrassment of Ukip’s list man David Coburn being elected as an MEP.
Ukip even had a period as a party supporting that scoundrel Robert Green long after he had been exposed as a fraud promoting the fantasies surrounding Hollie Greig CLICK HERE
As if to add insult to injury now their chaiman has been forced to stand down under investigation as a sex pest!
Even Nigel Farage’s forays over the border have proved fairly catastrophic, having annoyed the locals to such an exptent he had to be rescued (unsurprisingly from a pub) by the police!
Ukip’s Scottish chairman steps down after facing six sex call charges
Thackeray, 55, faces six charges under the Sexual Offences (Scotland) Act.
He is charged under a section which says it is an offence “to send a sexual verbal communication to another person without their consent”.
Police detained Thackeray on the morning of Friday, January 22. It’s understood he spent the weekend in the cells.
Thackeray then appeared in private at Glasgow Sheriff Court on the Monday. He made no plea or declaration and was granted bail.
He is expected to return to court at a later date. Prosecutors have a year to bring him to trial.
Thackeray has been a prominent figure for UKIP in Scotland in recent years.
He stood as his party’s candidate for Glasgow East in last May’s general election, coming fourth with 1105 votes.
And he appeared in a BBC Scotland “leaders’ debate” 10 days before the poll, taking on Labour’s Kezia Dugdale, Stuart Hosie of the SNP, Tory Annabel Goldie, Jo Swinson of the Lib Dems and Green MSP Patrick Harvie.
He has now stepped down as UKIP Scotland chairman while the criminal case is resolved.
Asked about Thackeray yesterday, UKIP leader Nigel Farage said: “I’ve heard about it. I’m not going to comment.” He then put the phone down.
A UKIP spokesman said it would be inappropriate to comment on an ongoing case.
Thackeray wasn’t at his modern home in Springboig in Glasgow’s east end yesterday. A neighbour said he was often away and added: “When he’s here he doesn’t answer the door anyway.
“He doesn’t say much. He sometimes turns up in a car with a woman.”
Thackeray used to run a group of security and investigation companies. And in 2014, he admitted UKIP had spied on their opponents in Scotland.
He said the party hired private detectives during the referendum campaign and used Polish immigrants to infiltrate anti-UKIP groups.
Groups thought to have been targeted include Radical Independence and Unite Against Fascism.
Opponents called the tactics sinister but Thackeray said they would “definitely” be used again in the general election campaign.
He also claimed to have gone under cover for the party himself. He said: “As someone who’s done a lot of covert work, it was nothing.”
Police said: “A 55-year-old man has been arrested and detained in connection with alleged offences under section seven of the Sexual Offences (Scotland) Act 2009. A report will be sent to the Procurator Fiscal.”
& For Election Year – Ukip & The Box Of Frogs that forms their legal representatives, associates, prospective candidates and even deputy leaders – not to mention the sociopathic standards of their so called leader! who many have of course seen through! But then again I have consistently cautioned ‘The higher up the tree the monkey climbs the more you see its @rse’
as is becoming ever more apparent in the media as Nigel Farage’s irresponsibility and sociopathy comes under ever greater scrutiny.
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Hi,
firstly a Happy New Year to you all and may 2015 bring us all an irrevocable step nearer to our aim to Leave_The_EU. I hope you all had a great holiday period and return to the fray to work towards ensuring an IN/OUT Referendum and the task of ensuring we win the right to Leave_The_EU conclusively by ensuring thwe public are reassured as to the benefits of being a self determining democracy trading as an independent Nation world wide.
To move forward into the fray and arm for the battle ahead to obtain our independence and repatriate our democracy reinstating our borders and justice system with a restrengthened Westminster with the integrity to represent our peoples rather than themselves!
I have almost without exception enjoyed the perspicacity of Suzanne Cameron-Blackie aka Anna Raccoon whose sharp wit and ascorbic pen I have followed for many years.Again and again she deals in areas where I have experience of the scoundrels concerned be they Robert Green, Anne Greig (aka McKay), David the liar and fruit loop Icke, creepy little Brian Gerrish, the odity Tony Bennett and many more – not least of whom is Michael Shrimpton who somewhat embarrassingly had rather overstayed his couple of nights stay in my home when he once again ‘heard voices’ and saw fit to use my phone to relay his maunderings about nuclear bomb threats, using my phone!Read on, as I am sure you will enjoy the cutting wit of Anna Raccoon and her wicked expose of Rannock’s village idiot the Ukip buffoon and sometime deputy leader then leader for Scotland Christopher Monkton (could that be aka Sacha Cohen?), as much as you may derive amusement from Hayley O’Keeffe’s somewhat kinder reportage of the pure humour of Michael Shrimpton’s parody of himself which she so ably covers ‘with a wink and a nod’!
On Ascending to Insanity and Shrimpton Fishing.
by Anna Raccoon on November 26, 2014
I have often pondered why the cliché is ‘descending into madness’ – given the number of people who end up firmly believing that they are the son of the Man upstairs, and spend the rest of their life with arms outstretched and tending their goatee beard, having moved from ‘talking to themselves’ to believing that they are in fact God, or at least JC – without passing ‘Go’. Surely the cliché should be ‘Ascending to Insanity’?
What is the alchemy by which so many people end up convinced by the same fantasy? I have just caught up with a documentary on James Randi – available for another six days on iPlayer, and I cannot recommend it highly enough – utterly enthralling to anyone interested in how and why people not only become consumed by irrational beliefs, but that so many people become consumed by the same beliefs – without ever meeting each other. Randi’s thesis (very roughly!) boils down to a view that people ‘believe what they need to believe, though they think they ‘chose’ what to believe’. Randi describes replicating Uri Geller’s spoon bending trick and revealing it to be part of the Magician’s arsenal of trickery – ‘Geller Believers’ accused him of having psychic powers himself and ‘being in denial’…I was promptly reminded of the time I was accused of having ‘buried’ the ‘traumatic’ occasion on which Savile abused me in a Duncroft dormitory in 1965….it being ‘unbelievable’ to a ‘true believer’ that when I said he simply wasn’t there – that he simply wasn’t there!
Suddenly, our world is full of people who have just realised they were abused in childhood by a celebrity – and there’s not a spoon bender in sight. Vanished, the lot of them. Mind you, there aren’t too many people abducted by aliens around at the moment, either. Each of these ‘beliefs’ have their own lingo – and it is extraordinary how quickly people catch onto the new lexicon. I watched a documentary on Broadmoor too (part two tonight!) and marvelled at how, even incarcerated in there for 25 years, the Thesaurus of abuse had penetrated. Elderly patients now claim to have been ‘groomed’ in childhood, ‘plied’ with alcohol – nobody ever admits to having shoplifted alcohol any longer, or lied to get into a pub underage, as we used to – nope, they now remember they were ‘plied with alcohol’ by sinister older figures – and I wonder how much of this can be accounted for by an instinctive understanding of the lexicon that well meaning counsellors ‘need to believe’.
Before I had time (or rather inclination, let’s be honest here) to put pen to paper – along came Michael Shrimpton QC. What can I say? Wow! Put’s Andrea Davison in the shade.
“In my report to the joint of intelligence committee, in the case of Madeleine McCann, She was going to be abused by a senior member of the European commission in Brussels whose name is known to British Intelligence, I can’t identify him in Spyhunter but I know who it is, there is no way that Madeleine could ever be returned alive to her family because the danger would be even at her tender age of 4 she would recognise him and know who was abusing her. So the Germans had to murder her and indeed they eventually did sadly in December 2008″
Strange how the same people pop up time and time again in different conspiracy theories. I ran into quite a few old ‘acquaintances’ from the height of Madeleine hysteria, the Hollie Grieg hoax, Common Purpose, et al as I researched Michael’s ‘ascendancy’ to hallowed high priest of the child abuse clique and honoured guest and Guru for David Icke. These people must watch ‘Google trends’ like a hawk, and at the first sign of a word trending, formulate a theory full of buzz words like ‘cell’, ‘disinformation’, ‘intelligence operative’, and of course, the ever popular ‘plied’ and ‘grooming’. I’m amazed that none of them latched onto the Oscar Pistorius story, he could have been groomed by South African Intelligence, jailed so that he could be ‘terminated with prejudice’ and never reveal the presence of nuclear weapons removed from the Kursk when it sank, and, and, and….
Too late, Mark Williams-Thomas had already latched onto the Pistorius family…you have to be quick in this game.
Michael had been at full pelt while the media were interested in the London Olympics: he phoned a secretary at the Aylesbury Conservative Association – as you do when you are a self proclaimed ‘intelligence expert on national security’ – and patiently explained to her that German intelligence, which is ‘now in control of Al Qaeda’ was quietly steaming up the Thames in a submarine loaded with nuclear weapons removed from the Kursk, etc, etc,
‘The information was extraordinary and dramatic, in essence Mr Shrimpton announced that a nuclear weapon stolen from the sunken Russian submarine the Kursk a number of years ago, that such a nuclear weapon had been smuggled into the UK and was being stored in a London hospital in preparation to be used during the Olympic games.
He followed this up with calls to the Defence Secretary Philip Hammond to say that this ‘ere nuclear warhead had been stashed in an east London hospital…
His defence case statement filing is a joy to read…if you are behind in your study of current buzz words, do catch up – he has managed to work every single current conspiracy theory in there…but yesterday, our ‘corrupt judiciary’ (every conspiracy theorist knows that our judiciary is corrupt -and, er, Michael should know, ‘cos he used to be a judge…) sent him off for psychiatric evaluation before passing sentence on a charge of ‘communicating false information’. Will he end up in Broadmoor? He will certainly liven up that august establishment, and join forces with the ‘groomed’ and plied’ inhabitants of child abuse fantasy land – oh, did I mention that Michael is already on the sex offenders register? [see the article below this article re Michael Shrimpton’s conviction for child porn – appeal!] Framed by the Secret Service, see.
No surprise to find that he was at university with Meirion Jones, Child Abuse Exposer Extraordinaire….
See, I was planning to write a piece yesterday about the latest Labour initiative about ‘Tory toffs’ and top public schools, and how Labour were going to remove their charitable tax relief if they didn’t start lending their best teachers to state school, and Harrods didn’t send their highly paid staff to stand behind the counter in Poundland, ‘cos it was all so unfair – if you went to a top school like Colet Court or St Paul’s School you ended up as Chancellor of the Exchequer or leader of the Liberal Party automatically and this was just an unfair advantage in life – only I couldn’t, because it just isn’t true.
You can go to Colet Court or St Paul’s School – and end up as Editor of the University Paper, or in the left luggage cupboard at Panorama, a left wing firebrand, part of the Labour fringe determined to expose those Tory toffs with all the advantages in life – just like Meirion Jones – who went to Colet Court and St. Paul’s and didn’t become Chancellor of the Exchequer.
But then he did get to meet Mark Williams-Thomas, who is busy ‘passing information to Operation Whateverthelatestnameis’ on the child abuse that took place at Colet Court and St Pauls’….
Stop! Stop! For pity’s sake Stop!
My head is reeling – how many of these people know each other?
Coming soon – Williams-Thomas reports on D-notice issued in respect of Meirion’s latest oeuvre on German submarine seen heading up the Thames in the direction of Duncroft piloted by Andrea Davison, carrying Shrimpton to safety with ISIS. Emily Thornberry resigns after accidentally tweeting picture of Pistorius carrying luggage holding Clegg bound and gagged and padlocked….
It’s got to the point where you can’t write anything without one of these nutters popping up in the story.
Edited by Anna to add: It seems that Michael is not a QC – though was a judge….I have now established that by following several more links including one where he was hired by the venerable Lord Christopher Monckton – who is the only Lord that the House of Lord’s have ever had to post on their web site a public note asking him to desist from describing himself as ‘sitting in the House of Lords’ after he appeared on an Australian TV show denying he was Sacha Cohen…
Are you sure you’ve got all that? Yes? I can climb out of this rabbit hole now? Personally, I’d sentence the whole lot of them to run the ‘Not Child Abuse Tribunal’.
Good. Now enjoy Lord Monckton attempting to prove that he’s not Sacha Cohen either…..
To view the original article + comments at source CLICK HERE
Ex-judge: ‘Secret service framed me over child porn’
A former judge claims secret service agents planted child porn on his computer memory stick in a plot to discredit him.
Michael Shrimpton, an outspoken critic of foreign affairs who advised Chilean dictator General Pinochet, said officers switched the memory stick, which also contained a book he was writing on German intelligence practices,
An appeal against his conviction heard his home in Jusons Glebe, Wendover was searched in April 2012 after he contacted the Ministry of Defence to warn them about an attempt he had uncovered to detonate a dirty nuclear bomb at the Olympics.
However, police instead arrested Mr Shrimpton and found a number of memory sticks which were bagged and labelled by officers.
Only one, which was found in a green glasses case next to Mr Shrimpton’s bed, was found to have contained deleted files, 40 of which were found by police specialists to be indecent images of young boys.
Mr Shrimpton, a barrister and former immigration judge who once advised Pinochet during his fight against extradition from Britain in the nineties, was sentenced to a three year supervision order, a five year Sexual Offences Prevention Order and was told to sign the Sex Offenders Register for possessing indecent images.
Representing himself, the 57 year old told the hearing at Aylesbury Crown Court sitting at Amersham that he believes intelligence services engaged a tactical interception system called G12, to monitor the search on his home and tamper with the items recovered.
He also claimed that he can prove his credentials as an intelligence specialist using a certificate gained when he was flown out to the USS Enterprise Navy aircraft carrier in 2006, and said that address books at his home contained direct numbers for world intelligence agencies.
Prosecuting, Richard Barton told Judge Karen Holt that he did not dispute that Mr Shrimpton had been aboard the USS Enterprise, but did not accept that it was as an intelligence specialist.
He also accepted that Mr Shrimpton’s own laptop computer was not the one used to download the indecent images onto the memory stick.
In court Mr Shrimpton said that he believed police did not have authority to take the laptop or memory stick, because his home is also used as his chambers for law work and could have contained legally sensitive information.
Speaking to the Bucks Herald outside court Mr Shrimpton said that he was ‘not worried’ about the case, and dismissed it as an effort to discredit him for being outspoken about key political issues as an intelligence specialist.
He said: “With every respect to the CPS and TVP this prosecution, based on an allegation of possession of a memory stick which has neither my fingerprints nor DNA on it, is a farce.
“TVP also admit my fingerprints are not on the laptop they have, which, absurdly, they claim is the one they unlawfully seized from my new home in April 2012.
“I wrote my new book Spyhunter on the original laptop. Spyhunter is a 330,000 word intelligence text, the writing of which involved at least a million keystrokes, i.e. the prosecution are alleging that a laptop which I touched at least a million times is mine even though there is not single fingerprint of mine on it, nor any of my DNA.”
The former chairman of Watermead Parish Council has been outspoken on issues including the search for Madeleine McCann, the 911 attacks, the war in Iraq, and international government involvement in the sinking of the Titanic.
Most recently he spoke out claiming that Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370 was shot down by a Chinese missile.
A barrister called a government minister to claim that a nuclear bomb was poised to blow up the Queen in a terrorist attack at the Olympics a court heard this week. …
The jury was read statements from seven interviews with Shrimpton in which he claimed his intelligence credentials included helping to capture Osama Bin Laden. …
A barrister told a former Defence Minister a bomb stolen from a sunken Russian submarine had been smuggled into the country and could be used to blow up the opening ceremony of the London 2012 Olympics and assassinate the Queen, a court heard today (Monday). …
The Lamentable Dishonesty & shameful cowardice of UKIP Cyber Bullies as they seek to defame those who make factual and constructive criticism of the corruption and failures of UKIP!!
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Hi,
some may have noticed the squalid little posting on behalf of UKIP on the UKIP controlled and dominated site at The BDF which has consistently published lies and dishonest spin on behalf of the most odious elements of UKIP whilst persecuting and permitting the dishonest defamation of those who seek to see UKIP cleaned-up and made fit for purpose as representatives of the Leave-The-EU movement and decent and moral British people.
Mr Green is admittedly not the most reliable of sources but Mr Lance-Watkins’ role in the Hollie Greig story is most worrying. The compelling theme in both of his campaigns against UKIP and the Greig campaign has been that he has fallen out with individuals and then decided to denigrate both at any opportunity. Or in short, Mr Lance-Watkins is one of Britain’s pre-eminent grudge holders
Greg Affectation Watkins is an anti-UKIP miracle. Clutched from terminal illness he continues his laughable work obviously being paid by sources unknown.Helped by that pathetic ghostbuster from the dole queue in Ipswich and others such as Frau Matron he must be struggling now that Junius has given up the ghost and stopped posting
Let us deal with this disingenuous garbage item by item giving Facts & Links to provenance:
I am not sure why Niall like to link stuff from him
G.L-W: Firstly we note the UKIP supporter (believed by many to be one of a group of UKIP apparatchicks is too ashamed of their postings to put their name to them and as such is at liberty to lie at will in order to defame without facing censure or consequence!
The posting quoted was made in 2011 by Robert Green a former travel agent who went bankrupt defaulting on his creditors and a proven liar who served a prison sentence for his criminal activities regarding the Hollie Greig scam.
Further the posting was dealt with in full when raised by some of the scoundrels and low lifes in UKIP seeking to defame previously see: CLICK HERE
That others quote my various postings is for the same reason that they are read on a regular basis by the media and UKIP staff, leadership, lawyers and many others (it is not the number of readerts that matters but the caliber!)
To date, despite desperate attempts by UKIP to pretend I have lied or have deliberately misled or am anti UKIP they have never once been able to identify or show a single consequential inaccuracy or dishonesty in a single solitary one of the 1,000s of postings I have made about UKIP and its associates!
Mr Green is admittedly not the most reliable of sources but Mr Lance-Watkins’ role in the Hollie Greig story is most worrying. The compelling theme in both of his campaigns against UKIP and the Greig campaign has been that he has fallen out with individuals and then decided to denigrate both at any opportunity. Or in short, Mr Lance-Watkins is one of Britain’s pre-eminent grudge holders
G.L-W: Yet another odious coward too ashamed to put their name to their comments, also thought to be a staffer or aspirant in UKIP – willing to lie and defame to enhance their position in the party!
Indeed Roberrt Green is NOT a reliable witness having a proven track record of dishonesty and having served a consequential prison sentence for his criminal activities and behaviour regarding the Hollie Greig stories see: CLICK HERE
This odious character invents his story on the hoof it seems as there is not one shred of evidence ANYWHERE that I am anti UKIP or have fallen out with any individual in UKIP – that those whose dishonesty, incompetence and corruption, which I have exposed have resorted to lies about me seeking to bolster their positions by trying to denigrate and defame me is well established!
Perhaps this odious self seeking scoundrel and cowardly critic could show a single example of grudge bearing or any motivation for such a ‘grudge’ as he seeks to claim.
Greg Affectation Watkins is an anti-UKIP miracle. Clutched from terminal illness he continues his laughable work obviously being paid by sources unknown.Helped by that pathetic ghostbuster from the dole queue in Ipswich and others such as Frau Matron he must be struggling now that Junius has given up the ghost and stopped posting
G.L-W:
The sneerings of this unpleasant little man can largely be taken as a compliment. That he is dishonest aned corrupt is unmdeniable as time and again he has be4en exposed as a liar, a cheat and untrustworthy.
Many will recal Mick McGough support of Andrew Smith who was for a time UKIP treasurer ubntil his incompetence, dishonesty and corruption was exposed and he quit his post mid term to avoid public censure and possible repurcusions on his job as an accountant for a London firm!
Many will remember Mick McGough’s desperate attempts to defend him when he circulated a memo to UKIP leadership on how to go about deceiving the Electoral Commission and also when he engineered the removal of Niall Warry as U*KIP Office Manager as he had come too close to exposing Andrew Smith#s corruption.
Corruption and incompetence in which Mick McGough participated as a signator of UKIP cheques which led to money being spirited away to other accounts!
Mick McGough is embarrassingly for true UKIP supporters one of the puppets and muppets on the NEC placed to ensure that UKIP is never taken seriously it would seem to judge by his sordid and destructive postings and fabrications which bring UKIP into disrepute.
Consider his sneering tones – hardly those of an executive, or his dishonest promotion of his unfounded fantasies which are clearly dishonest.
Yes it is a miracle that I have survived having had several types of cancer5 over a 15 year period – which to date, much to the astonishment of my consultants, I have survived – despite several occasions when they have pronounced a very short expectation of survival. That I have also had a major heart attack and survived other complications is also astonishing..
Anyone who requires info. or help who has cancer or is caring for a cancer patient is welcome to call and chat as I have ‘done the whole nine yards’ so to speak and am happy to pass on any help I can give.
To that end perhaps the information at CLICK HERE may be of help.
That the odious Mick McGough demeans UKIP by denigrating and defaming anyone who seeks honesty, integrity, accountability, ethics and transparency from the increasingly incompetent and unpleasant leadership clique and their claque will come as no surprise to the informed!
That Mick McGough is motivated by money is made self evident (gaining him the nicknam Mick McTrough!( by his continuous inventions and fantasies regarding his repeated lies that others only act in persuit of money when there are those of us who seek probity and gravitas from a UKIP of moral integrity to make them electable by informed and honourable individuals – most of whom have quit their support leaving the party exposed to scoundrels and the gullible and in persuit of racism, bullying, lies, mysogeny and self interst.
I do agree that the fact that those posting on the Junius blog have left the field is an added burden and as there are less and less honourable people seeking the well being of UKIP and the exposure of its self evident corruption sources have become more limited as the fools and crooks remaining associateed with UKIP seek to cover eachothers misdemeanors, criminality and incompetence in the hope of personal rewards!
That Team Junius has ceased posting at the moment has of course been clearly explained at CLICK HERE
A post which I shall get around to repeating when I have time as so many people have contacted me for more information – The informed will of course remember the original ‘Junius’ who posted cryptic letters of a political nature historically and suddenly ceased leaving everyone with the question as to their identity.
That UKIP has over the years permitted the scum to rise to the top in their particular septic tank and let them act as spokesmen for the party and has never made any effort to censure their behaviour speaks volumes of their suitability for election or selection for any job of any responsibility related to Governance – that they are utilised by many as a protest vote in EU elections is of little surprise and with their racist views and the morays of a dinasaur of yester year one is hardly surprised they apeal to racists and inadequates particularly in view of the decline and failure of The BNP.
Would that UKIP could be ‘cleaned-up’ and made to act with gravitas and probity to make them fit for election to lead the movement opposed to EU membership rather than just seek to exploit it for personal gain.
I fear with UKIP’s total lack of strategy, ignorance of tactics and opportunistic self interest were they to have any part in the upcoming Referendum, which is increasingly inevitable due to the sterling work of Team Sinclaire and a few others, I incline to believe that UKIP will be the most likely cause of losing the vote rather than ensuring we win and have the fundamental human right of self determination restored to our own democracy and clearly without some fundamental shifts in the style of British Governance there is little hope of a good outcome – Hence we must all be gratefull to Richard North and his team’s hard work in seeking to progress The Harrogate Agenda (as featured at the head of this web site CLICK HERE and at HERE
Anyone wishing to discuss any of these details or other facts is welcome to phone me – my phone is screened against any witheld numbers and has a recording device on line to ensure accuracy of recall when needed – Thus avoiding the obsecenities, abuse and threats of liars and inadequates like Mick McGough and his cowardly chums at UKIP and the parasites exploiting Hollie Greig for their own gain!
Genuine calls from land lines will ALWAYS be treated in confidence and with the fullest facts I am able to provide, as the media and others have proved beyond doubt.
Gerard Batten is a laughing stock who consistently due to his position as a UKIP MEP associated with the racist, anti homosexual, anti Jewish, anti Islamist organisations he espouses brings UKIP into disrepute!!
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Hi,
frankly I can not disagree with the comments below made on a UKIP controlled public forum!
I posted this in the Roger Hayes thread in British Police State:
Gerard Batten is a complete @rse. He has been fed the BCG drivel and swallowed it hook line and sinker. This is why nobody should vote for UKIP. I can honestly say, without fear of a writ from Gerard Batten, that he is the stupidest politician of the year. The speech was wrong. Batten knows nothing of the English legal system, which given the time he has been a MEP is quite disturbing. This pathetic speech will be used, rightfully so, by UKIP’s enemies to demonstrate what a bunch of utter fools UKIP has as MEPs.
Gerard Batten, for the avoidance of doubt, I state as fact and truth, that you are a second rate politician, a fool for all to see and that you are unfit to represent even the minutest percentage of the British people. You have brought the Eurosceptic cause into disrepute by your crass stupidity, I’d be surprised if Marine le Pen would want to sit in the same group as an utter numpty like you.
There is not a scintilla of libel in that quote. If Batten, a fool, were to issue a writ for libel, which I dearly hope he does, I would have him for costs. Gerard Batten you a fool – FACT. Sue me.
I posted this in the Roger Hayes thread in British Police State:
There is not a scintilla of libel in that quote. If Batten, a fool, were to issue a writ for libel, which I dearly hope he does, I would have him for costs. Gerard Batten you a fool – FACT. Sue me.
There is little to add on the issue other than point out that for a ludicrously highly paid MEP with little or no understanding of ethics, morality, integrity, common sense, law or justice to act in such an ill informed way is staggering.
However this is not a first for the racist, hypocrite Gerard Batten who has lied and brought UKIP into disrepuete by trying to prevent me telling the truth about him.
Gerard Batten was indubitably guilty of abuse of his elected office imn wastimng police time trying to imply, under the corrupt Human Rights Laws to which these United Kingdoms are committed by virtue of their malign and damaging membership of The EU and its utterly undemocratic Lisbon Treaty.
Gerard Batten went so far as to try to clame I had intimidated him and his wife by pointing out that it was my opinion that his racist attacks on Islam may well have more to do with his wife, who is a Filipino by birth, may well be a devotee of Cardinal Sin style Catholocism and that his posturing and many of his extremist and distasteful views may have more to do with his relationship with her than the interests of these United Kingdoms or his constituents – whom he is honour bound to represent NOT hypocritically attack based upon their chosen superstitions and beliefs within the law!
This grubby little low life has as I have shown over many postings is a traitor to the values and principles of these United Kingdoms and has some particulary vile criminal associates. He would also seem to have abused his position, not just to waste police time, by nepotistically paying large amounts of money to family members under a cloak of ‘expenses’.
A measure of the man is his association with the criminal Gregory Lauder-Frost who was sent to prison for having defrauded the health organisation for whom he worked of a considerable amount of money, and also the odious and thoroughly dishonest Mick McGough.
It is also of note that Gerard Batten has been at the heart of UKIP for many years and has never noticeably spoken out in condemnation of its undeniable corruption nor spoken of the many £Millions which would seem to have been trousered by its leadership team of which he is clearly a part.
I believe that Paul Wesson (sheltering behind his pseudonym Aardvark) makes undeniable statements of fact in his posting quoted above and I believe that the BCG abreviation stands for the deeply disturbed charlatan and scoundrel Brian Gerrish. For I doubt Paul Wesson was making comment on tuberculosis as in ‘Bacille Calmette–Guérin’, BCG!
The unfortunate and deeply challenged Brian Gerrish has tried to make issue of many cases in his attempts to besmirch established issues and organisations in Britain – not least of which would seem to be his obsession with his discredited interests in child abuse and interests in the idiotic posturings of the likes of the French Polisher and sometime Special Constable Albert Burgess, discredited criminals Robert Green and Roger Hayes.
Sadly such gems of actual information unearthed by Gerrish are ensured derision due to his constant espousal of unfounded and misinterpreted conspiracy theories, such that he must by now be a board member of The Tin Foil Hat Fellowship!
Frankly as it seems Gerard Batten has no understanding of intelligent honourable behaviour, ethics or duty it is long overdue that UKIP demanded his resignation but as there is not a single solitary individual amongst UKIP’s leadership team of principle or gravitas, in my opinion, it may well prove hard for any of them to hang onto their lucrtative scam once the rotten apples are removed from the barrel!
Regards,
Greg_L-W.
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Paul Wesson has made further very valid comment on Batten’s stupidity:
I can’t understand a UKIP MEP getting involved with BCG. He clearly took the BCG press release at face value without checking with the police, the local council or the courts system. The fact that Batten thinks there is a lawful argument for withholding council tax shows how stupid he is. There is no lawful argument for such behaviour. If there were the charlatan and conman Roger Hayes would not be in prison as he would have a defence. Hayes has been ‘withholding’ his tax for some considerable time. A warrant had to be issued to bring him before the court. He is one of a very small number of people who refuse to pay council tax (withholding is his word for not paying towards the society he lives in) and who go to prison. The legal process to get to this stage has already passed through lawful demands for council tax, through threats of legal action, through an initial hearing, through judgement against Hayes, through enforcement, through a garnish order and through bailiffs.
If Hayes and his stupid cronies (yes, BCG, I think you are all stupid) are the legal experts they claim to be they would have won this case at the first hearing. They have the same rights of appeal as everyone else. Hayes could have appealed all decisions against him and could have taken his case, on a point of law, to the Supreme Court. If he was right he would have won. Despite the idiotic comments of BCG members, when they’re allowed out of the wards, the fact is that the judges in the Supreme Court would have listened to all of their arguments and those of the other side. They would have weighed up both cases and made an honest judgement. The judgement would have been delivered in open court as well as in writing. Hayes and BCG know their arguments would have been demolished and their stupidity would have left them with a costs bill of hundreds of thousands of pounds. That’s why this process hasn’t been appealed – not because BCG and Hayes know they are right, but because they know they are wrong. Once a Supreme Court judgement on a national matter like taxation is published it binds all UK courts in perpetuity. The judgement would have analysed Hayes’ arguments, discussed them based on common law precedents and statutes and demolished them.
That is the real fear – the paper tiger would be exposed. Nobody would be able to write the rubbish that Hayes writes without other people citing the case as proof that they’re wrong. All of the arguments of Hayes, Harris, Gerrish, Burgess, Barnby, Mote, Scarth, Green et al might have been potted in one fell swoop. That would benefit the whole Eurosceptic movement as Common Purpose, Hollie Greig, freemen, treason and all of the other leitmotifs of the lunatic fringe could be consigned to the dustbin of legal history.
Sadly, that hasn’t happened and the fool Batten has nailed his reputation to the mast of a sinking pirate ship. If Farage doesn’t withdraw the UKIP whip today this speech of Batten’s will haunt UKIP at election time. If I were the other parties I would be distributing it far and wide and demanding my activists understand what a fool Batten has been. This speech will be a great relief to David Cameron as it will save him hundreds of thousands of wavering voters. Nails and coffins and UKIP spring to mind.
Remember that a UKIP MEP has publicly attacked, on the record in the EU Parliament, Wirral DC, Merseyside Police and the courts system. BCG has less than one member per constituency. UKIP has won 500 votes here – all from people who don’t vote for the traditional parties in any event. UKIP has lost the votes of local government workers, police and court staff nationwide. If I was a local government worker collecting council tax I would feel that Batten’s speech had undermined my lawful efforts to enforce the rules. If I was the arresting police I would feel that Gerard Batten, at a time of massive cuts, had kicked me in the guts. If I was a magistrate I would wonder why Batten referred to my court as secret, when it clearly is not. The fact that Batten is so stupid, along with BCG, that he doesn’t understand how our local government, police and courts work is no excuse.
Gerard Batten, you are a fool. Hang your head in shame.
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