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#0423* – UKIP CHORLEY – Support For Colin DENBY

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/04/2011

#0423* – UKIP CHORLEY – Support For Colin DENBY!
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UKIP CHORLEY – Support For Colin DENBY!
One has to wonder WHY UKIP Leadership single out supporters to abuse as if there was something clever about making a spectacle of themselves in public!
Look how UKIP lacked the leadership skills to handle the situation with John West, Richard Suchorzewski, Niall Warry, Ian Gillman, Peter Baker, Marcus Stead and then made situations worse using their cowardly anonymous commentators and pond life like Mick McGough doing UKIP huge damage!

So many people have walked away in disgust CLICK HERE 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011
Subject: E-Mail to UKIP.
 
Dr. Fred McGlade,
Regional Organiser.
 
Dear Dr McGlade,
 
Re: Mr Colin Denby.
 
It is with deep regret that I have learned that Mr Denby has withdrawn his candidature as your representative for my home town of Chorley, for the forthcoming May elections. I have admired Colin’s total dedication to your cause, stamina and genuine commitment. He is a gentleman of integrity, honesty and forthrightness, add would have been an ideal candidate to represent UKIP. He would have served the people of Chorley very well. He would have received my vote without any reservation or hesitation whatever, and that of countless others in Chorley who are crying our for a change of direction.
 
Colin would have been a “Beacon of Light and Hope”, displaying the good and acceptable face of politics, something this country badly needs. I personally feel that UKIP and the people of Chorley have lost a great opportunity.
 
Yours faithfully,
 
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BA(Hons)., LL.B(Hons)., MA., Ph.D., LL.M., M.R. Hist. S.,
Legal & Forensic Consultant.

You may find this of interest:

Opening hours curbed at Chorley pub

3:21pm Friday 14th November 2008
By Chris Gee

Licensing chiefs have curbed the opening hours of a popular Chorley pub, a move which could threaten its future.

Lancashire police applied for a review of a licence for The Swan with Two Necks, Hollinshead Street. Police recommended that no alcohol be served after 11pm.

The current terms allow drinking at the Hollinshead Street pub until 2.30am at weekends.

A three person panel of councillors from Chorley council’s licensing committee heard the review last week and decided to cut the hours where alcohol can be served on Friday and Saturday hours to 12.30am and Sunday to Thursday to 11.30pm.

Licensee Denise Hogan, who along with her husband Nick, runs pub, say that 300 customers, neighbours and other friends of the pub of all ages have written to the council pledging their support for the couple.

The decision notice of the sub-committee, said: ”Repeated incidents of crime and disorder and nuisance originating from a premises cannot be ignored even if the premises is popular amongst regular patrons.

“Having carefully considered the representations from the police, the Environmental Health Authority and the other interested parties the sub-committee considered that the designated premises supervisor had failed to effectively manage the premises leading to the licensing objectives of the prevention of crime and disorder and the prevention of public nuisance being undermined.”

The panel decided not to remove Mrs Hogan as designated premises supervisor but to request that the licensing section issue a written warning to her emphasising how seriously the sub-committee considered the lack of effective management at the premises.

Mr and Mrs Hogan say they will appeal the decision which would mean the review would be heard by magistrates.

They have 21 days in which to appeal and in the mean time the current opening hours will remain.

Mr Hogan said: “We are looking forward to putting our case forward at the appeal against these unjustified measures.”

Sergeant Tony Bushell, licensing officer for Chorley police said all submissions from the police backed up by evidence.

He added: “I agree the Swan is an asset to Chorley but we don’t take action like this lightly.

“We believe there are issues over management practices, incidents of disorder and non-compliance with the terms of the licence.”

To view the original article CLICK HERE

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#0422* – WHO EMPLOYS WHO FOR WHAT IN UKIP?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/04/2011

#0422* – WHO EMPLOYS WHO FOR WHAT IN UKIP?
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
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WHO EMPLOYS WHO FOR WHAT IN UKIP?
Here are some details on Farage!
That Giles Chichester‘s Diary Business seems no longer to be subsidised may explain why David Bannerman is making a play for his Tory Seat in The South West having proved himself to be dishonest, corrupt, a liar and utterly useless in his present Region of near invisibility in The East!

This is no STAR coming out of The East just a scrophulous self seeking and utterly discreditted little nebish – Willing to betray any and all including UKIP to get a place in The Tories and when he looses favour there he will no doubt betray them AGAIN!

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Hi,

I presume that this means Farage employs his pro on his allowances and his wife – since his wife seems not to do much for UKIP & his pro has achieved very little for UKIP does this imply they are both paid £30K or does his pro get paid more than his wife?

The other interesting point is that as yet the site seems incomplete as Kirsten Farage is not included and surely on his minimum basic allowances doesn’t ever MEP receive £215K – I can not believe that deducting Kirsten’s £30K leaves Annabelle Fuller and Ray Finch with £185K between them – surely there are more staff or does Farage employ other staff as EFD Group as he diod with Mark Croucher – in fact are either Ray Finch or Annabelle Fuller or even Kirsten also on The EFD Group payroll?

If lobbyists or PR companies such as Athena-PR receive money from ANY department of The EU as I read the rules, surely that precludes a member of their staff even a director from employment by The EU in any separate capacity yet we KNOW that Farage employed Athena-PR to promote and manage his leadership election.

Minded that the aim of UKIP was to expose corruption in The EU this does seem to be at best sailing close to the wind not to mention lacking in transparency!

Looking around the site clearly it is being worked on as from Sinclaire’s site she clearly employs about 8 to 10 staff from her £215K allowance.

This still doesn’t tell us what happens to The 400 Allowance of £76K per MEP in a Group which the leader of the group receives – Though we do believe that Marta Andreasen has forced Farage to give her full control of her share of the budget!

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Posted in Annabelle FULLER, BETRAYAL of UKIP, David BANNERMAN MEP, EU Funding, Giles Chichester MEP, Kirsten FARAGE, Nigel FARAGE MEP, Ray FINCH, Staffing Allowances, Tory, UKIP Obfuscation | Leave a Comment »

#0421* – UKIP CHORLEY & MORE SIGNS of LEADERSHIP STUPIDITY!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/04/2011

#0421* – UKIP CHORLEY & MORE SIGNS of LEADERSHIP STUPIDITY!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
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UKIP CHORLEY & MORE SIGNS of LEADERSHIP STUPIDITY as ENDORSEMENTS COME IN for Colin DENBY!

It seems Nick Hogan is far from popular and held in contempt by many – not least those who seemingly have problems with him of a commercial nature!

Is UKIP Leadership merely funding Hogan from Party income as the only way they can get publicity?

Clearly UKIP have no one of competence or ability in their Press Office as shown by the dirth of publicity of any gravitas year after year & cheap Publicity Stunts and self serving so called Celebs & minor shock jocks just don’t cut the ice!

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Hi,

it seems that without competent leadership UKIP just sinks further into the hole its parasites and self serving sycophants of the weak and venal leadership create.

Would that UKIP had managed to find a leader of some competence to capitalise on the undeniable skills as a performer of Nigel Farage who can on a good day put on a bravura performance.

Sadly although UKIP’s message is very much to the fore amongst the public their childish antics, obvious incompetence, lack of professional PR, lack of structure, and obvious lack of a competent Organ Grinder (leader), leaves them with a discordant tune on their organ and a performing monkey – hardly the stuff of front line politics.

When was the last National Press Article treating this bunch of clowns as grown up politicians?

You will remember that at the desperate little attempt to re-launch recently apart from a full on spat between Nigel Farage’s two Party funded doxies nothing of interest happened and fortunately Farage’s women and their nocturnal antics did not make The Press – merely gossip amongst the better informed!

Previously the only publicity from the UKIP autumn conference was for Nikki Sinclaire’s Petition for A Referendum which is imminently due for a new push towards the 100,000 signatures across Britain. The only other publicity was based on a pack of lies from Jon Ison trying to currie favour with the other maggots seeking attention in support of UKIP’s failed leadership.

You may remember that John Ison was reported in The Sunday Times and even there no points of value emerged as it was clear to the Journalist that the story lacked veracity so it was beset with ‘Allegedlies’ bringing UKIP into disrepute to the informed reader.

Dressing up as chickens, draping banners off of motorway bridges, playing with inflatable toys, driving around in WWII scout cars from a museum, standing in an APC on a trailer and pretending it is a tank seems the best UKIP can do to get publicity as it lacks any credibility with the media – well look at their PR staff!!

Now we have this manufactured farce in Chorley that due to lack of competent leadership has merely brought the party into disrepute yet again!

You may wish to read more of the FACTS surrounding UKIP’s incompetence and duplicity in Chorley CLICK HERE

From: REDACTED 
To: REDACTED 
Sent: REDACTED
Subject: Re: Nick Hogan & UKIP

Colin,

I have seen in the paper today that you have withdrawn your nomination for Chorley Candidate, And I am shocked and disturbed that you have been forced into this repast I have know you for a number of years now and have always found you to be forth right and honest.

You have strong opinions which many of your supporters agree with and never once would I have ever classed you as racist.

You have fought for this country and the freedom that it represents.

You have my sincerest support and hope you can use this endorsement in some way to repair the damage that “Nick Hogan” has achieved.

Perhaps the UKIP Party should look more closely at him and his ties to other organisations which hold extreme views.

Also while there at it what about his criminal background as well – I always said all politicians were crooks and this just proves my Point!!

Best wishes
REDACTED

I have redacted the names as I am well aware how vile UKIP can be.

On that note even that has backfired on the maggots like Mick McGough and Skeptyk as I gather their childish attacks on John West to try to lose him his job have yet again brought UKIP into disrepute.

I gather as a result of the publicity John West has been getting from UKIP his listener figures are markedly up and hits on his YouTube publicity clips has markedly increased.

For those who haven’t noticed John West has been working in the broadcast industry for 7 or 8 months with a show of his own and also as a stand in with other presenters. I gather his show is proving very popular and he has been doing little jokey pieces on video to promote the entertainment including some to raise funds for various charities.

After this long on air and as a result of attempts to damage him by UKIP’s low life they even sent eMails to his Radio Station which do make UKIP look quite revolting when they are so clearly orchestrated and similar in their lies – it has been noted by John West’s colleagues that this was sponsored by UKIP!

How can UKIP ever be expected to be taken seriously with this gutter trash acting for it?

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Posted in Chorley, Colin DENBY, John Ison, John WEST, Mick McGOUGH, Nick HOGAN, Nikki SINCLAIRE MEP, Skeptyk, YouTube | Leave a Comment »

#0420* – ANNOUNCEMENT re: Ryan NEWELL UKIP Candidate.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/04/2011

#0420* – ANNOUNCEMENT re: Ryan NEWELL UKIP Candidate.

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Hi,

please note that Ryan Newell reported on at the time of his being charged – which bears re-reading see: CLICK HERE

Ryan Newell’s case came to Court before a jury and he was found not guilty on all but one of the charges and on reflection the Prosecution withdrew their case in that sole instance.

Ryan Newell is therefore innocent of all charges under British Law and by rights should have no entry on his CRB and has thus NO CRIMINAL RECORD related to this matter.

Southampton UKIP activist Ryan Newell innocent of child sex allegations

A FORMER UK Independence Party activist in Southampton has been acquitted of sex charges levelled against him.

Ryan Newell, 29, had faced ten charges of sexual activity with a child and one charge of sexual assault that centred around two girls between 2008 and 2010.

Jurors at the city crown court found Mr Newell innocent of ten allegations but could not reach a verdict on the eleventh charge.

The Crown Prosecution Service was given seven days to determine whether to seek a re-trial but the Echo was banned from reporting the development.

Following a consultation with the alleged victim, the CPS has now decided not to proceed on the outstanding issue.

Mr Newell, formerly of Honeysuckle Road, Bassett, Southampton, worked as a line manager for British Gas in St Mary’s Road. He moved to the city ten years ago after an amateur boxing career was cut short.

Mr Newell had risen through the ranks of the UKIP to become a leading figure in the local branch.

He was a leading critic against plans for a gypsy and traveller transit site in Swaythling four years ago and of the Liberal Democrat administration running the city at the time.

Mr Newell was later ousted from the local party and has been banned from reapplying for membership.

Mr Newell has now returned to live in Maidstone in Kent where he grew up.

to view the original article CLICK HERE
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#0419* – UKIP – CHORLEY CHAOS IT SEEMS!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/04/2011

#0419* – UKIP – CHORLEY CHAOS IT SEEMS!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
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UKIP – SEEMS TO HAVE PROBLEMS OF ITS OWN MAKING IN CHORLEY!

CHAOS IT SEEMS MAY BE A MASTERFULL UNDERSTATEMENT – One Draw Back of A Dictatorship Is Arbitrary Decision Making Resulting From The Input Of Sycophants & Fools!!

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Hi,

I have felt since first I heard of the renegade publican, and UKIP’s support for him, that there was more to this than meets the eye and after the experiences with the indolent and utterly corrupt failed publican Mark Croucher and subsequently the idiocy of Bob Feel Martinis and his belligerent and oafish behaviour when so regularly proven to be wrong and no more than an ambitious self seeking liar.

LEAVING PRISON
 Nick Hogan with his wife Denise

Surely UKIP might just have learned some caution with regard to Publicans.

In the light of his dishonesty and corruption one might be forgiven for believing the liar and low life Mick McGough might well be a publican but to judge from the vile idiocy and intemperance of his behaviour one could be forgiven for believing he spends too much time supporting the publican’s cause!

I have had this ‘e’Maiil for a while and also other ‘e’Mails in corroboration as on its own I would have felt disinclined to post it. However I have every reason to believe that Colin Denby has been shabbily treated and one need only see how the filth that comes to the fore in support of the leadership of UKIP defame, lie, cheat, bully and drag the reputation of UKIP into the gutter they inhabit to realise that on the balance of probabilities every word Colin Denby has published is true.

I note the odious creeps Skeptyk & Mick McGough are desperately trying to defame and denigrate John West – dishonest fools that they are.

So very in keeping with the filth that Farage has gathered around him in his utter incompetence as a leader.

There are few characteristics more damaging than vanity, duplicity and incompetence from a weak and venal leader – such a tragedy when Farage had so much to offer as a performer that he was allowed to befoul the party by surrounding himself with maggots to hide the corpse he is creating that is UKIP. The stench of corruption is not only omni present but has now proved intollerable for many decent activists and even members of The NEC are so stupid and gullible they have no knowledge of what is going on.

I understand that some did not even know that Nigel Farage pays his wife Kirsten £30K a year, which I guess is not that surprising as it was Farage who issued the promise on behalf of UKIP that no one in UKIP would employ family members and even his own office staff did not know she was being paid and were unaware of ANY UKIP work she might have done!

To the issue in hand – I will of course be only too happy to publish further facts on ‘The Chorley Debacle’ as they come to hand, to ensure veracity where possible.

From: Colin Denby [mailto:REDACTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011
To: Greg Lance-Watkins
Subject: Hogan & Co. my letter.
Ladies & Gentlemen of Chorley.
You may have read in various local newspapers recently, that whilst in The Parkers Arms, Park Road, Chorley, on the 4th. April (there to collect leaflets for the election, not drinking the night away). I allegedly used a word that is deemed Politically Incorrect and allegedly racist regarding the recent EDL, meeting in Blackburn.
for the past few days I have been pondering whether to take this matter further. After much deliberation and consultation (208 people have either telephoned me, e-mailed me, written to me or stopped me in the street, so far!) I have finally decided on the following:
To all the people in Chorley who have known me over many years locally, I rest my case and leave it to you to draw your own conclusions based on the facts!
To all the people in Chorley who know, or have had commercial dealings with or have read about Mr. Hogan in the last year or two, I rest my case and leave it to you to draw your own conclusions based on the facts!
With regards to racial prejudice, when I stood as a PPC for UKIP in the General Election for Rochdale last May, as I was about to leave the stage in the early hours of the morning when, to my surprise, abuse was hurled at me by a group of Pakistani men. Cries of “go home white UKIP trash,” “go home UKIP bastard,” these words of endearment were repeated several times! Whilst this tirade was taking place, two Police Officers at the back of the hall did a smart about turn and vacated the room, leaving me to face the ‘mob’ which of course I did, with a perfectly clear conscience never having had any racist beliefs in my life from my early years in the Army to retirement and on to today!
The powers that be at UKIP did not pursue the matter? At the time I wondered why …….. Now I believe I understand why!
Intrigued? ……
Then log onto http://UKIP-vs-EUkip.blogspot.com and http://JuniusOnUKIP.blogspot.com ………. you will be amazed at the facts presented all annotated and cross referenced and backed with proof. Telephone numbers, e-mail addresses and web sites are used to establish the reliable nature of the facts presented!
To all of you thinking of voting for UKIP on May 5th. ….. in the light of the facts you may wish to think again!
Colin Denby

Copy to: Chorley Guardian, The Citizen and Greg Lance-Watkins (Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com)

May I suggest you check out the details for yourself and in the light of the facts before you make your own decision as to whether UKIP’s behaviour has shown competent leadership or its normal crass incompetence.

Maybe start here:

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#0418* – UKIP MENTAL HEALTH – PILOT FOUND GUILTY

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 14/04/2011

#0418* – UKIP MENTAL HEALTH – PILOT FOUND GUILTY
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
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UKIP MENTAL HEALTH – PILOT FOUND GUILTY!
Judge’s Comments Mirror This Blog’s Position from day one!

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Hi,

a strange day _ don’t normally do mornings but today I was up early and left home at 07:45hrs.for Velindre Hospital Cardiff, my first call transferred to their care!

I was early for my 09:00hrs. appointment with Nuclear Medicine where I was injected with a radio active isatope! As if we aren’t getting enough from Japan. Then a two hour wait and the only paper was The Guardian, what garbage there is little wonder why they lost so many £Millions last year if that was a typical days effort!

Then a blood sample every hour on the hour for 3 hours! So that will check my kidney function.

On getting back – thanks for the calls on the answer phone and I checked Google for the outcome of the sad case of Justin Adams.

Earlier today it seems Justin Adams was predictably found guilty of threats to kill in Oxford Crown Court.

As this blog has stated consistently it was a sad case and there was clearly a mental health issue that underpinned the case and I still maintain that it was poorly handled heaping grief upon woe by use of courts!

You will remember I reported my earlier conversations with Justin Adams at the time and also his comments that Nigel Farage’s behaviour during the emergency prior to the crash, in which he had known their position was not good and they were likely to crash at around stall spead of something a little under 50mph., Justin Adams had stated that Nigel Farage’s behaviour had been exemplary keeping calm and quiet throughout responding clearly to questions and instructions.

Well done Nigel – for a change showing a spark of leadership ability. May I also congratulate Justin Adams for heaping praise where it was clearly due when at the time he had lost his livelihood, his plane, his home, his wife, his child and his heath.

The entire debacle shows just how badly our Justice system and our health system serves our people that this very clear case of a mental health issue was not properly dealt with as a mental health issue and became blown out of all proportions by clearly insensitive handling when a man in a chronic state mentally, emotionally and medically can not be helped but is ‘Banged Up’ from the end of November until well into May when sentence will be passed.

How can this in any caring society be seen as Justice?

You will note:

The Honourable Mr Justice Saunders adjourned sentencing until the week commencing 9 May, pending a pre-sentence report.
Remanding Adams in custody, he said he was “clearly extremely disturbed” at the time the offences happened.
He added: “He is a man who does need help. If I can find a way of giving him help, I will.”

I was glad to see that even the Judge agrees with this blog and is seeking help for Justin Adams – guilty as he may well be technically.

There is little doubt that in terms of publicity Nigel Farage has been able to milk this one to great effect all be it in a quite bizarre and delusional way at times – well it is after all a mental health issue 😉

To view the original of this story CLICK HERE
For more about this accident and the trial put >Justin AdamsSEARCH< box at the top of the right sidebar on this blog.:

24 Jan 2011
The Court heard the charges which were of 5 Counts of Threatening to Kill and the case was further postponed to 11-Mar-2011 and Justin Adams was remanded in custody without bail until that date YET AGAIN! …
22 Jan 2011
Justin Adams is scheduled to present at Court 2 in Oxford, on a charge of ‘Threatening to kill’ – I believe Nigel Farage MEP the leader of the overtly Racist, anti Jewish, sexually intolerant Pan EU EFD Political Group and one other (at …
13 Mar 2011
Justin Adams, 45, appeared at Oxford Crown Court yesterday charged with making threats to kill the politician and Civil Aviation Authority investigator Martin James. Adams, of Glenwood, Buckland, near Faringdon, was at the controls of a …
06 Jan 2011
I’ll provide more details later but Justin Adams has been remanded in custody to appear Jan 21st. I’ll fill in some detail later as I must go play with Doctors as part of the aftermath of my latest op. Regards, Greg_L-W.. …
02 Dec 2010
you may find some detail of Justin Adams, nigel Farage, The Plane Crash & the Court charges of interest! For SOME veracity start at CLICK HERE re: 02-Dec-2010 – Justin ADAMS Pilot in Court & Nigel FARAGE MEP of UKIP …
12 Apr 2011
so finally the long delayed trial of Justin Adams has commenced – it was fast beginning to look like Justice Delayed is Justice Denied – Justin Adams has now been held in custody as an innocent man pending trial (British presumption of …
07 Dec 2010
I understand that Justin Adams was remanded in custody until 30-Dec-2010 – a search on this blog in the search box at the top of the Right Sidebar will take you to other articles on the matter as will reading The Farage Blog CLICK HERE. …
19 hours ago
That said, one must feel sorry for Justin Adams as his world quite literally crashed whilst his passenger was able to profit from the publicity and even saw himself as some sort of Mesiah having survived (in his shaving mirror!). …

ALSO see the postings of:
06-May-2010 CLICK HERE
07-May-2010 CLICK HERE08-May-2010 CLICK HERE

We do like to provide the FACTS in detail where we can and I will ALWAYS stand by the FACTS and opinions which I provide.
If you read it on my blog you can count on its accuracy and that it is the truth.

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#0417* – UKIP – White Lies, Lies & Outright Lies of Omission & Commission!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/04/2011

#0417* – UKIP – White Lies, Lies & Outright Lies of Omission & Commission!  
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UKIP – White Lies, Lies & Outright Lies of Omission & Commission!
When Will They Stop Telling Lies?

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Hi,

just a quick RoundUp on a few items:

PILOT ERROR!

It does rather look as if this blog was right from the off – a Shakespearean Style Tradgedy – along the lines of ‘Much Ado About Nothing’ and clearly we were right when we first commented and said it was in our opinion a mental health issue that had got out of proportion!

The Jury having withdrawn on only the second day of the trial would indicate from all the evidence in the public domain that it is indeed much over egged.

That said, one must feel sorry for Justin Adams as his world quite literally crashed whilst his passenger was able to profit from the publicity and even saw himself as some sort of Mesiah having survived (in his shaving mirror!).

No one should expect Farage not to have been very scared by Justin Adams who was not someone he could control.

We are only on the second day of the trial and for details read the various (numerous) entries on this blog by putting Justin Adams into the Search Box at the top of the right sidebar and also CLICK HERE

WALES:

Well it is a matter of record that after waiting some time to give UKIP a chance to get its act together and act honourably with regard to John Bufton’s health collapse finally after almost 2 months of vitual inactivity in Wales – where to be fair John Bufton had donated £900 from his Massively Expensive Pay and had £215,000 or so in staff allowances there was no one of stature, no one of note and no competent campaign mounted by his staff for the recent risible devolution – not even a mention on UKIP Wales’ web site!

It was almost back to the bad old days of Jim Carver when he was far too busy to do anything worthwhile for UKIP. One assumes the inadequate Regional Organiser of today is of much the same ilk – too busy plumbing the depths, attacking supporters and making a fool of himself in public!

Eventually it was unavoidable as someone had to mention John Bufton had taken a leave of absence due to a stroke that kept him off work for several months.

We then note the UKIP Wales Local Election launch which was laughable! Did Nigel mount the launch on the balcony of K.T. Rajan’s flat or in the field nearby?

The key players of any note in Wales were absent – as we noted at the time.

The week previous John Bufton had returned to work cashing in on his daily allowances in Brussels yet unable as The Welsh MEP and leader of UKIP in Wales he was unable to attend the launch.

Kevin Mahonney wasquick off the draw with his spin, that he was unwell and that there were only 5 people because of some other cock and bull rubbish – the sad little man is such a predictably unpleasant and gratuitously offensive little chap one knew instinctively he was, as so often before, failing to tell the truth.

It was only recently that my suspicions were confirmed that Kevin Mahonney was telling lies again with all the finesse we have come to expect of the odious little squirt.

For his information John Bufton was in Brussels this week I believe and the week before he was in Strasbourg. The reason John Bufton was not at the launch had nothing to do with his health we gather it was due to the fact that arbitrarily the party dictator Nigel Farage has changed UKIP policy to suit his ambitions.

We have always known John Bufton to be duplicitous and not someone I personally would trust nor do I have any respect for the man but I do know he is opposed to membership of The EU and totally opposed to the concept of Regional Devolution.

Unlike Nigel Farage John Bufton actually believes that the National Ass. should be dismantled and unlike Nigel Farage John Bufton has both local Government experience and experience in and of Wales.

It would seem that John Bufton did not attend the launch as he did not agree with Nigel Farage’s new policy of apeasement and the policy of The EFD to seek to reform The EU whilst campaigning for its continuance and working to support The EU by promoting Pan EU Political Parties. One MUST respect John Bufton for not prostituting UKIP to suit his income however he may prostitute himself.

Presumably the split, which is fundamental, will be hidden by the absence of John Bufton for much of the campaign however one would expect him to act ethically after the election and regardless of the outcome disassociate himself from the unpleasant concept of being in a pro EU Pan EU Political Party as with The EFD Group – setting aside the racism, xenophobia, anti homosexual and anti Jewish stance of Farage’s choice of Groups.

Let us hope his stroke has not undermined both his confidence and his ‘spine’.

QUESTIONABLE LOTTERIES:

We note the New Lottery to raise funds for the party which it seems is being funded by Alan Bowne with:

a first prize of £1,000,

second prize a wet weekend in Cornwall (well a cottage in Cornwall)

third prize Flying Lessons (all be it in a glider one has the scarey feeling this will be more Oxford Crown Court than Thomas Crown Affair with Ms. Faye Dunaway!)

4th – 13th. Prize is signed copies of Nigel’s book

ps.  In view of the claims of Justin Adams’ in Court this week it makes both Prize THREE and Gerard Batten’s comment about Farage all the more apposite!

One is minded of the joke of First prize is a weekend with ….., Second prize is 2 weeks with …….. .

RACIST CLAIMS:

01. Absolutely no action wouyld seem to have been taken to censure the bufoon Godfrey Bloom who is clearly determined to drag the name of UKIP into the gutter he inhabits – whether getting banned from Hotels for urinating in the plant pots when drunk, copulating with prostitutes on the bonnet of a car on a public highway, being arrested for seeking to default on his debts in a bordello and then claiming diplomatic imunity as a representative of UKIP and Britain in Brusells or merely refering to the African leader of an African Country as a Baboon.

Yet:

02. Without any sign of a disciplinary hearing and without ANY suspension or inquiry Nigel Farage suspends a loyal UKIP member and local government candidate on the say so of ONE highly dubious member.

More of this shortly as it is clear that all is not well in Mr. Hogan’s branch region!
A story set to run and run, where many may rue the day we started digging for the truth but start HERE

What has happened to UKIP that for almost 3 months the leadership lied, colluded and squirmed to defend the fraudster Tom Wise yet its leader outright lied to defame Nikki Sinclaire and Godfrey Bloom was censured by The President of the Parliament for his derogatory remarks and abuse of Nikki Sinclaire.

Yet when clearly in a hole what does UKIP leadertship and the maggots and parasites sycophantically seeking status just keep digging, whether in their own names, as with the idiots Malcolm Pearson, Christopher Gill, Mick McGough, Godfrey Bloom and the cowards and low lifes too ashamed to put their name to their defamatory lies like Skeptyk, Baron von Lottsove and the rest of the filth that seeks status at UKIP’s expense!

Considering the many £Millions being given to UKIP MEPs and the amount spent on staff and also PR & Press – how come they arer so very low profile in the media with such incredibly infrequent press coverage of any substance or gravitas.

Little wonder that with Farage in Court and dependent on Stuart Agnew, Mick McGough as the briefed mouth pieces the NEC had absolutely no idea how to deal with Mike Nattrass on Monday.

They have dug a very deep legal hole for themselves and it is increasingly clear that little Crowther lacks any idea what to do and beligerance from lame brains and blagards like the thief Stuart Agnew and the low life excrecence McGough the partty is more likely to make the position worse than better as clearly Derek Clar is out of the play as he can’t hear most of what is going on!

How can UKIP welcome back Sinclaire after their attrocious behaviour and having been found guilty in Court already – yet dare they dump Nattrass as that would mean they would have to remove Trevor Colman from the party also!

So it is to be a discrimination case is it? Where Sinclaire can prove she negotiated and agreed her withdrawal from the odious EFD Group with the leader Malcolm Pearson only for him to renege on his word and put his lies in written form! Whilst Nattrass and Colman merely left the racist, xenophobic, anti Jewish EFD Group Farage chairs!
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#0416* – UKIP LEADER & A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/04/2011

#0416* – UKIP LEADER & A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE?
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UKIP LEADER & WHAT SEEMS TO BE A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE as stated on this blog right at the outset of this debacle!

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 Hi,

so finally the long delayed trial of Justin Adams has commenced – it was fast beginning to look like Justice Delayed is Justice Denied – Justin Adams has now been held in custody as an innocent man pending trial (British presumption of innocence!) for longer than Tom Wise as an MEP was held in prison on a 2 year prison sentence for fraud to which he pleaded guilty – which was until the very last minute condoned by UKIP!

Having, as I have already stated on this blog, been phoned up by Justin Adams and discussed the flight, the damage, the injuries and the aftermath and its effects on his life and health in some detail I incline to the opinion (based on no medical expertise) that Justin Adams is severely damaged.

Justin Adams has lost his plane, his confidence, his marriage, his health, his home, his income all in one, fortunately non fatal, plane crash during a routine stunt.

I am astonished on the information in the public domain that either Farage or the Inspector could have taken his comments seriously – that the Police became involved is of course unsurprising however it does all rather look like an over reaction to a mental health issue of tragic proportions.

Astonishingly we learn from the trial that when Nigel Farage & Justin Adams had a meeting after then Air incident report there was a mental health nurse (unfortunately described by the media as a ‘Mental Nurse’!!) – in view of the parties present can we be surprised 😉

A clash of mental health issues?

Whatever the outcome of the trial I hope Farage feels reassured and safer and Justin Adams is treated leniently, minded of his losses and health damage.

We all know what a plane crash can do to mental health – Nigel Farage was wandering around trying to pass himself off as some sort of a Mesiah having survived an accident!

Pilot ‘threatened to kill Nigel Farage for profiting from plane crash’

The pilot of a plane which crashed injuring Nigel Farage, the UKIP leader, made death threats to the politician, a jury heard yesterday. Justin Adams believed he was making money out of the incident.

Mr Farage is helped from the plane, which flown by Mr Adams had crashed after a publicity stunt went wrong Photo: INS
Mr Adams felt Mr Farage profited through speaking about the crash while he was forced to stay silent while an investigation took place.
Mr Adams was flying the light aircraft which nose-dived into a field on the day of the general election last year after a publicity stunt went wrong.
The 45-year-old pilot, of Buckland, Oxfordshire, was cleared of being at fault, but the jury was told yesterday that he was angry that the investigation had led to the failure of his marriage and his business. He said it left him with mental health problems as well as physical injuries.
The pair met after Mr Adams was cleared of blame by the Civil Aviation Authority. The pilot, who was accompanied by a mental health nurse, allegedly told Mr Farage that he had intended to kill him and could not be sure that he would not do so in the future. Mr Farage told Oxford Crown Court: “He said, ‘I used to be in the special forces and no one is safe, do you understand me?’ ”
Mr Farage went on: “He said, ‘I was going to kill you today but I have decided not to but I can’t preclude that happening in the future’. He said ‘I know this may not be rational, but I have lost everything and if I kill you I will then kill myself’.”
Mr Farage added: “He believed I had profited out of the accident and that was simply untrue. I was very, very worried indeed and not only a bit scared.”

Mr Adams denies making five threats to kill. The trial continues

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#0415* – UKIP BRISTOL WANT ‘THEM & US LAWS’!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/04/2011

#0415* – UKIP BRISTOL WANT ‘THEM & US LAWS’!
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UKIP BRISTOL Chairman & Wanabe Councillor WANT ‘THEM & US LAWS’ it seems – Well Why Not?
UKIP LEADERSHIP CLEARLY HAS THEM!
HAVE THESE CHAVS NEVER HEARD OF LEADING BY EXAMPLE?

Well they managed to get Independent News out & only 2 months late – But already they are 5 months behind on The NEC elections!

Can YOU imagine the mess A UKIP Government would make & they would choose extremist nutters as alies rather than sound political trading Nations to judge by The EFD!

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Hi,

something of a non story – it can hardly be news that a UKIP spokesman makes a fool of himself!

In a week when various candidates make an issue of being in UKIP – without any apparent interest in the party but seemingly for their own gain with one losing his candidacy over a fire arms technical offense (NOT involving any third party or crime as such) and another is dumped for his racist behaviour one has to ask why this clown Phillip Collins has embroilled UKIP in his personal issues over law and order.

However we do note that despite disciplinary moves mbeing made in a purely arbitary and dictatorial manner with a complete disregard for any sense of democracy or attention to even UKIP’s own rules – silly me I forgot UKIP CEO sent out a letter clearly stating UKIP hasn’t got a Rule Book but arbitrarily invents rules on the hoof according to no written guiding principles – I guess thatm is authorisation in an extremist group like The EFD and thus UKIP for the leader to have one rule for them and another for them!

This may explain why Godfrey Bloom’s comment about an African Leader being a ‘Baboon’ goes uncensured – whilst two MEPs Stuart Agnew and Derek Clark attend UKIP’s leading committee whilst under investigation by OLAF for fraud and Stuart Wheeler so clearly does not trust the UKIP MEPs that he has made it a condition of his donating to UKIP to ONLY contribute £10K per MEP and then only as matched funding!

So very UKIP/EU I wonder if Stuart Wheeler has actually woken up and is having his ‘CRISIS of FAITH’ as per his feelings towards The Tories when he gave them £5M – I wonder if Stuart Wheeler will be making his donation of up to £10K when a UKIP MEP invests in his own self interest to try to get himself elected or will it be only on donations to UKIP central funds. It could be a cheap round for Stuart Wheeler!

Sorry to see Jill Seymore was not at the NEC yesterday but in fairness what better day to book dental surgery. Dealing with the clowns and low lifes on The NEC would have a very clear similarity to the enthusiasm anyone would have for root canal treatment which of course would have some long term benefit, unlike association with the pond life in UKIP’s leadership team and the parasites feeding off the party.

Bristol man gets parking ticket – after calling police to complain about bad parking

Bristol man gets parking ticket - after calling police to complain about bad parking

Refusing to pay: Philip Collins holds his non-payment of fine papers
​ A WOULD-be city councillor had a parking ticket slapped on his car – by a policeman he called to complain about a badly- parked van.
Philip Collins, the chairman of UKIP Bristol, now says he would rather go to prison than pay the fine.
He received the ticket on October 17 last year after he arranged to meet a police officer at a dangerous junction in Brislington.
Mr Collins said he had called police for around 18 months about a van parking on the narrow path at the junction of Water Lane, Homemead Drive and Hulse Road.

But he says when he “eventually” got a police officer to meet him at the scene he was penalised for parking his silver BMW opposite the junction and causing an obstruction.
In frustration, the 47-year-old tore the ticket up and to add insult to injury was issued with a further ticket for littering.
But Mr Collins, of Homemead Drive, who last Thursday was given two months to pay up by Bristol magistrates or face “serious action” says he would rather go to jail than pay the £45 penalty.
“I am not anti-police. I am very much for the police and think they do a brilliant job most of the time but on this occasion they have got it wrong,” Mr Collins, who cares for his 82-year-old mother, told the Evening Post.
Parking where it does, the Transit van turns the junction into a blind bend and makes it very dangerous for schoolchildren and shoppers who use it regularly.
“My aim is not to be difficult but to care for my community as best I can and I am concerned about the safety of members of the community including schoolchildren and the elderly.”
Mr Collins, who is running as a candidate for UKIP for Brislington West, added: “I have been complaining to the police over about 18 months and must have rung them on 50 occasions.
“When I have spoken to an officer he told me firstly that having the van parked as it was slowed traffic down and secondly that it was only illegal at night. I looked at the Highway Code and as far as I can tell both of these are nonsense.
“A police officer came to see me about it and said I would meet him up there.
“When I arrived I parked opposite the van and he tapped on my window and we spoke about it. I pointed out what I had been told before was incorrect.
“I then asked him what he was going to do about it and at that stage he wrote a ticket and slapped it on my windscreen and said he wasn’t worried about the van.
“I was not swearing or abusive but I admit being upset because I have rung the police numerous times.
“After he had done it I asked him what on earth did he think he was doing and ripped the ticket up – I admit that.
“He got right in my face – invading my personal space – and I put my hands on his shoulders and told him I wasn’t pushing him but was moving him back.
“As I did so the pieces of ticket fell to the ground. Later I was given a ticket for littering.
“I will not pay the £45 fine, I would rather put mum into care and go to prison for a couple of days.
“I was trying to look after my community and am not in the wrong – it is totally crazy.”
A spokeswoman for Avon and Somerset police said Mr Collins made a complaint regarding the ticket which was investigated by the Professional Standards Department and was not upheld.
She said a subsequent complaint from Mr Collins meant they could not comment further on any pending matters

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#0414* – UKIP MAY FIND ITSELF DISADVANTAGED by PEPPs

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/04/2011

#0414* – UKIP MAY FIND ITSELF DISADVANTAGED by PEPPs
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UKIP MAY FIND ITSELF DISADVANTAGED by PEPPs!
 

Yet Glibly TRIES To Sell This EU Scam seemingly designed to assist pro EU Pan EU Political Parties to steam roll opposition in any National Referendums!

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11-Apr-2011 – UKIP MAY FIND ITSELF DISADVANTAGED by PEPPs

Hi,

It is glibly claimed by some of the less intelligent UKIP NEC & Leadership, particularly their more sycophantic and self serving parasites, without any apparent sourcing or reference in support of their claims.

Surely after some 60 years of EU scams and shennanigens they would reasonably expect to engage their brains before putting their mouths in gear and potentially making fools of themselves yet again – they claim that:

‘money granted through participation in Pan EU Political Parties can be used to fight a referendum in the UK (IF WE GET ONE)’

To view this unfounded claim CLICK HERE for UKIP NEC members to sneer and abuse supporters and thus drag the party into their gutter style of sneering behaviour is damaging UKIP as has been UKIP’s manner with the level of idiot they habitually have in their leadership.
Clearly lacking any vestige of intellect or political nouse it would seem UKIP’s only ability is to cover-up their ineptitude with ill manners and lies, such that it is almost impossible and definitely unwise, to believe a word they say, having so consistently been proven either dishonest or just plain wrong!

Barbara Booker takes a more intelligent and reasoned look at this funding endorsing points made in earlier sections on this Blog.!

Has anyone bothered to check if this is true? (the comment by Mick McGough quoted above!)

It’s been generally accepted by not only UKIP spokespeople and EUobserver, but also the Daily Mail and Express, that a rule change now allows Europarties to use their funding to campaign in a referendum on UK membership, even though there appears to be no evidence for this other than Nigel Farage’s word.

As Farage is very keen indeed for members to agree to letting him take UKIP into a Europarty, it would be wise to verify his claims by getting the facts direct from the EP’s Constitutional Affairs Committee (AFCO) and the British Electoral Commission.

The trouble is, we are all very ready to believe claims about the ‘evil’ EU that play to our own prejudices. If those claims are based only on personal interpretation of possibly ambiguous statements translated from another language, it’s very easy to be mistaken. Nigel Farage has made one interpretation of the debate at a recent AFCO meeting; I have made another. As the implications for UKIP’s decision on joining a Europarty are so serious, I urge someone (Trevor Colman? Tim Congdon?) to establish the truth.

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At the AFCO meeting on 14 March rapporteur Marietta Giannakou presented her draft report reviewing the regulations governing Europarties and recommending some changes, including one that would allow these parties to use their funds in referendum campaigns on directly linked EU issues. Current funding rules forbid Europarty participation in any referendum campaigns at all. 

The draft report is at http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdo…5/840655en.pdf and the only references to referendums are at points 16 and 30, and in the third paragraph from the end of section II of the explanatory statement. The contentious wording is at point 30 where, having noted that Europarties can already use their funds to campaign in EP elections, it says:

“they are prohibited from using these sums for financing ‘referenda campaigns’; considers that the reason for this is probably a concern that European parties and foundations could interfere in the domestic affairs of Member States; believes, however that, if European political parties are to play a political role at EU level, they should have the right to participate in such campaigns as long as the subject of the referendum has a direct link with issues concerning the European Union

Amendment 95, put down by Andrew Duff, removed from the draft report the words: “considers that the reason for this is probably a concern that European parties and foundations could interfere in the domestic affairs of Member States”.

Nigel Farage interprets this as allowing Europarties to spend their funding on a national referendum in the UK, a view that was expanded on by Gawain Towler in his blog England Expects on 15 March, reported by EUobserver on 17 March as posted at CLICK HERE, and by the Daily Mail on 19 March (Now MEPs can use UK taxpayers’ cash for propaganda to keep Britain in the EU) and Express on 21 March (Plot to ‘rig’ your EU vote). The similarity between the Mail and Express articles, using several near identical phrases, suggests that both articles may have sprung from the same press release; Stuart Agnew told the Mail that his group in the EP would use its funding to campaign for withdrawal, because “Why should taxpayers’ money just go to fund the “Yes” side?”; now Mick McGough says “this money can be used to fight a referendum in the UK”.

How true is all this? Well, Nigel Farage didn’t even wait for AFCO to vote on the report before rushing out his version and using it to give UKIP a shove towards joining a Europarty. At 6:03am on 15 March he was tweeting away:
“Decision by EP to allow pan euro parties to get involved in national referendums means UKIP must join or money will go to pro EU side”,
followed at 07:13 on Facebook by:
“MEPs in Committee have approved decisions to allow pan european political parties to become involved in national referendums on EU issues. This means that unless UKIP join one the money which we could spend getting our message across will be given to the other side”
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The first untruth is that the “EP” or “MEPs in Committee” had taken a decision. They hadn’t. AFCO had debated the report the day before, but didn’t vote on it until the 10am session on 15 March, some four hours after Farage’s twitter and Facebook posts. The rest of the EP didn’t get to vote on it until the plenary session on 6 April. Even now, there has been no rule change, because the resolution adopted on 6 April was non-legislative. The report is only a request to the Commission to propose a draft statute, which will then have to go all through the EP procedures again for consideration and amendment before becoming law. In the meantime, Europarties are still prohibited from involvement in referendums.

The second untruth is that the report calls for Europarties to become involved in “national” referendums. It doesn’t. It doesn’t even mention national referendums. It talks about Europarties’ role “at EU level”, so it would seem logical and not unreasonable that pan-EU parties would want to become involved in pan-EU referendums. Giannakou herself, when interviewed recently said: “EU parties would be allowed to take part only in those referenda campaigns directly connected to European issues, for example on a change of treaty”.

We also know from Sharon Ellul Bonici’s e-mail last October CLICK HERE that the European Alliance for Freedom (the Europarty UKIP would be joining) is planning to call for a referendum under the new Citizens’ Initiative: “one of the first campains we can engage ourselves in is to generate 1 million signatures to be able to instigate a pan wide European referendum on Turkey. The idea is to use the million signature clause according to the Lisbon Treaty”.

As the law stands at present, they could use their funds to petition for a referendum, but not to campaign in the referendum itself. It’s hardly surprising that MEPs want this situation changed.

Viewed like this, that the report has nothing to do with purely national referendums and only seeks involvement in pan-European ones, Duff’s amendment 95 would have been aimed simply at removing unwarranted fears over EU intervention rather than, as Gawain Towler suggests, brushing aside EU recognition that it shouldn’t interfere in domestic affairs.

A third untruth, at least under current British electoral law, is that Europarty funds can be used in a UK referendum campaign. Gawain Towler touches on this: “money donated to the Lib Dem Euro political party, by someone living in France, could be used to fund a pro-European referendum campaign in the UK by washing it through the European Political Party. In direct contravension of British electoral law, but so be it”.

He is right, of course, but the same would apply if the donor living in another EU country had given money to UKIP’s Europarty. Before UKIP members get pushed too far down the Europarty road, advice should be sought from the Electoral Commission on the implications of a possible change in EU law. Europarties, which by their nature accept donations from non UK residents, would presumably have to register as political parties here in order to become permitted participants in UK referendums. What would be ElCom’s view on this?

Finally, even if such electoral hurdles were cleared it is by no means certain that Farage, Agnew, McGough, etc. are right in saying that UKIP could use Europarty money to fight for withdrawal in a UK referendum.

It cannot be emphasized too strongly that no EU funds would be available to UKIP itself. The money would go to the Europarty, to campaign in the referendum (if that was allowed) on whatever stance the Europarty took on EU withdrawal. Since other Europarty members are in favour of EU membership, and since they would be aware that winning a UK referendum would mean the loss of UKIP from the EP, quite possibly resulting in their Europarty’s collapse, how can we be so sure they wouldn’t want to campaign for the ‘stay in’ side?

Turkeys voting for their own demise at Christmas is one thing. Agreeing to fund the slaughterhouse is something else!

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