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#0409* – UKIP MEETING IN HERTFORDSHIRE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/04/2011

#0409* – UKIP MEETING IN HERTFORDSHIRE
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! .
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UKIP MEETING IN HERTFORDSHIRE!
With The Amount Of Publicity & The Dynamism Of Little Gerald I Guess They Will Get 20 or 30!
I’m Surprised Nigel Farage Gave Permission For Someone To Speak Without Him – I don’t suppose he expects many to bother going!

Almost as lame brained as holding a London Rally on Cup Final Day!!

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I wonder if you have seen all the advertisements for this major even!

OK I guess not!

Questions for Gerard Batten EFD MEP

Gerard Batten is due to attend an open UKIP meeting this Saturday in Hertfordshire. We trust that Gerard will be asked why he is still prepared to sit in the extremist, racist, anti Jewish & pro EU membership EFD Group when Mike Nattrass MEP, Nikki Sinclaire MEP and Trevor Colman MEP are not.

We would also be interested in his opinions as to why no action has been taken by UKIP’s NEC after The Sunday Times obtained incriminating statements that UKIP MEPs Agnew and Bannerman – the region’s UKIP MEPs – were /fraudulently obtaining tax payers’ money and illegally paying the UKIP Regional Organiser Peter Reeve out of their EU allowances.

Surely, their action has brought the party into disrepute as the story was featured in several newspapers and is clearly true as Agnew was caught on camera boasting of it!. See: CLICK HERE

That both Stuart AGNEW & David BANNERMAN are under investigation for Fraud with prima Facie Evidence should surely cause UKIP pause for thought and that they lacked the integrity, just as with Derek CLARK MEP, speaks volumes of the dross that are UKIP’s Leadership and its parasites.

And finally, what will Gerard do to oppose Farage’s desire to make UKIP part of a new pan-European party? See: CLICK HERE

Public Meeting
Broxbourne Civic Hall
Saturday April 9th
10:30 am onwards

Speakers include

GERARD BATTEN, UKIP MEP
Professor TIM CONGDON. CBE. One of the UK’s most influential economists.

Conservative and Labour governments have surrendered most of the UK’s powers of self government to the European Union. We must return the control of our Country, our laws, our economy and our borders to our own Parliament at Westminster. This is your chance to meet and question National and Local representatives of UKIP – the ONLY major political party putting Britain and the British People FIRST !

For your country’s sake, for your children’s sake – Vote UKIP!

Buffet lunch available, also refreshments, see overleaf.

Website- http://www.ukipbroxbourne.org.uk e-mail; martinharveyonr@aol.com

Tickets available for the buffet lunch at £6 each, bookable in advance.
Please send me ………… tickets for the buffet lunch at the Civic Hall on 9th April 2011.

Name…………………………………………………………………………..
Address……………………………………………………………………….
Post code……………………..Tel or e-mail…………………………….

Please send to UKIP Broxbourne & Harlow Branch,
St Helens, Middle Street, Nazeing, Essex. EN9 2LB.
Telephone 01992 892101

The Civic Hall is in Hoddesdon at postcode EN11 8BE. It is situated just off Cock Lane, South of the Town Centre and Golden Lion Pub. There is ample parking between Cock Lane and the Hall Complex.

This is a great opportunity to hear and question very good speakers, and also meet old and new friends during the buffet lunch, and maybe later support our very own UKIP pub, The Golden Lion. Cromwell is said to have frequented the area, so maybe his ghost will have a few suggestions regarding the Traitors!

Hope to see you, Martin Harvey.

Printed and promoted by Martin Harvey of St Helens, Middle Street, Nazeing , EN9 2LB. on behalf of The United Kingdom Independence Party.
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Hi,

I wasn’t going to bother with a follow up as I only expected about 30 people to attend but with Robin Page attending as the most notable speaker this dragged the numbers up a little and I gather about 40 are claimed to have attended.

As one attendee told me ‘It looked like a normal UKIP meeting, an undynamic audience of almost exclusively elderly folk the men, on this hot day, in jackets and ties with their overly patched silver haired ladies teased out in rows’!

It was good of Robin to try to bolster Martin Harvey’s meeting but he studiously stayed away from telling the truth about UKIP before shooting off to enjoy the weather leaving the audience somewhat bemused by his avoidance of the facts regarding UKIP – to leave Martin Harvey with his delusions that change can be effected in UKIP.

A measure of just how on the pulse of the Party Martin Harvey manages to keep was his utterly ridiculous outburst and abuse of Christopher Hudson for having left UKIP to join The Tories!

Where has poor old Martin been sleeping?
Christopher Hudson left UKIP when his membership came due for renewal two years ago. That he had never been prepared to stand against Tories during his service to UKIP or subsequently when he was Organiser for Ganley’s Pan EU Libertas Party!!

Bye the Bye – how come Martin Harvey didn’t notice Christopher was opposing UKIP having seen the light way back then!

Once Robin Page had spoken and left the meeting rather slid down hill and became yet more pointless as with the best will in the world – other than for his economic OPINIONS – who would cross the road to listen to the ‘dynamism’ of Tim Congdon or even more tedious Gerard Batten!

One has to feel sorry for the UKIP members with the clowns they have in their leadership team and its parasites. Liars, cheats, nebishes and low lifes almost without exception!

I note the following comments regarding UKIP NEC meeting later today:

  1. Default Tomorrow’s NEC

    Hopefully Steve Crowther has a lawyer at his elbow tomorrow and resists the efforts of Farage and Nuttall to push Crowther into the mess they are trying to offload onto him. No wonder Crwother is keen to bring back Nikki Sinclaire into full standing with the party.

    Meanwhile Batten and AN other is coming under pressure to leave the Farage group which would finish him off.

    Stuart Wheeler is oressing for all MEPs to make a contribution to the party out of their recently increased salaries.If Nuttall and Farage keep playing games with Wheeler,he will chuck it.


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    Hopefully Steve Crowther has a lawyer at his elbow tomorrow and resists the efforts of Farage and Nuttall .

    Ha Ha ex-member!

    Farage will totally dominate the partially evolved idiots he has appointed to the NEC. But of course Farage himself is a Fecking Ijeet. He may find himself screaming for financial help to fight his legal nightmares – as usual!


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    The idiotic party leadership truly are in a complete mess on this issue. If they had any sense what so ever they would be looking for a face saving retreat but no doubt they will keep on digging.

It is also noted that in this thread was the comment that Stuart Wheeler was expected to call on UKIP MEPs to show their belief in UKIP and maker substantial donations from their newly increased salaries.

Having read Stuart Wheeler’s book ‘A Crisis of Faith’ – I have a feeling he is heading for another! Little wonder that the UKIP controlled Forum Anthony Butcher owns has removed the posting to prevent the inconvenient truth that UKIP MEPs do NOT donate their money except to enhance their own PERSONAL profiles to seek renewed election!

Wake up folks – YOU are being conned by a bunch of two bit chavs.
There would seem to be absolutely no record of a donation by a UKIP MEP that was not out of PERSONAL interest to BUY gain!

Compare the records of ALL The UKIP MEPs with that of the INDEPENDENT MEP Nikki SINCLAIRE whose accounts are published showing the size and diversity of her donations from personal income – Note also that Sinclaire is personally funding the Nationwide Petition for an In/Out Referendum.

I wonder will Stuart Wheeler have the intelligence to realise he is being duped and the courage to admit it and walk away – I doubt it based on his track record, this man made his money as a professional gambler and chucked £5M at the Tories without ANY rational controls and then went on to loose over half of his fortune when called on to use his business acumen!!

Has Stuart Wheeler the integrity to act and admit yet another ‘Crisis of Trust’ when he realises he has yet again been taken for a fool?

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#0408* – UKIP Seems Willing To Prostitute Principles For MORE Tax Payers’ Money!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/04/2011

#0408* – UKIP Seems Willing To Prostitute Principles For MORE Tax Payers’ Money!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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UKIP Seems Willing To Prostitute Principles For MORE Tax Payers’ Money! 
Can UKIP Leadership Be Either As Dishonest Or As Stupid As They Seem?

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08-Apr-2011 – UKIP Seems Willing To Prostitute Principles For MORE Tax Payers’ Money!

08-Apr-2011 – UKIP Seems Willing To Prostitute Principles For MORE Tax Payers’ Money!

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John Stuart Agnew, on behalf of the EFD Group.

– Mr President, this legislation will allow the EU to throw money at referendum campaigns to ensure that it purchases the right result first time, for a change!
The UK will in future be holding a referendum each time the EU proposes to remove power from its electorate. The EU is frightened out of its wits that we may give a series of wrong answers. So it intends to remove money from UK taxpayers to indoctrinate them into its version of the path of true righteousness.
Fronting the legislation is Andrew Duff, a liberal democrat MEP from my own region. Support in the UK for his party has collapsed recently – a party of course desperate for EU institutions to govern the UK. Never has the EU’s gerrymandering been so clearly displayed alongside its contempt for UK voters. It is sowing the seeds of its own destruction, because the legislation will allow us to fund the referendum campaign that many in my country have for a very long time been waiting for – the one that gives us the opportunity to remove ourselves entirely from its control.

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Sinclaire: 

Would my colleague Mr Agnew agree with me that a political party that would accept funding under this legislation, as a single European party, and which in particular would have to observe the EU’s programme and activities and the founding principles of European law, and the development of European law at all levels regionally, nationally and at European level, em> would be a party which has lost its principles? 

Would you agree with me, Mr Agnew?

Agnew:

I say to Ms Sinclaire that we will take what we can out of this because we use the devil’s money to do God’s work. That is what we do, and well you know it.


Sinclaire:

Will you accept the principle of European law though?


Agnew:

No, of course we do not. That is why we are here.

For the original comments by Agnew and Sinclaire: LINK

What UKIP MEPs seem not to understand (well one fact clearly of many) as shown by their clearly out of his depth spokesman Stuart Agnew, is that if they are foolish enough to join a PEPP not one Iota nor EUro will accrue to UKIP.

UKIP seem to be trying to dupe their more gullible members into the belief that if they vote for PEPPs and join one they will have extra money to promote their claimed withdrawalist agenda.

One wonders if UKIP MEPs are so stupid that they believe this or are they so dishonest that they are deliberately telling lie and employing their muppets and parasites to lie to the members also.

It will not be long before the members receive a rude awakening!

The new centralised funding whether it is like the extra funding that is currently obtained seemingly used to bribe others to join the group to keep the numbers up or if it is like the formerly titled 4000 Account now abbreviated to being the 400 account (keep changing the names! It help obfuscate the scams!) seemingly unaccounted and falling under the control of the group leader even possibly used as bribes and even possibly trousered!

The funding for PEPPs would just fall under the control of the group, be that the extremist pro EU membership EFD Group or some new group such as that which the racist and generally irresponsible buffoon Godfrey Bloom and others have joined CLICK HERE.

The new money thus extorted from the tax payers might seem a bonanza but firstly it is only available on compliance with the aims and ambitions of The EU but also its disbursement would be a matter of group voting and as at the moment UKIP would find that its diminished authority would once again leave them as the junior partner – out voted in The EFD which is by a large majority a pro EU reformist body and not in favour of withdrawal as are several of the UKIP members of The EFD – no doubt with a view to their future self enrichment!

Thus, whatever The Group decided, UKIP would only be able to enact the Group policy within these United Kingdoms.

Thus although the original rules CLICK HERE may predicate against domestic use of the new funding the rule changes covered on this blog back in March CLICK HERE will make little or no difference to the domestic funding of National referendums that could be construed as positive.

In their stunning ignorance or more likely utter duplicity, UKIP aspirants to yet more money claim that the new rules permit them to fund opposition to membership in UK Referendums – a particularly disingenuous claim as what it conveniently overlooks is that FIRSTLY UKIP would merely be the representative of a Group and would legally be bound by Group Policy – Secondly The Group’s funding will be determined by The Group’s performance in ‘PROMOTING’ the views, values and aspirations of The EU!

The very stupid or singularly dishonest leadership of UKIP and its parasites will do much to get their hands on more money but their argument that it would be other than for themselves is unconvincing!

Let us consider for a moment that their foolish claims were just stupid – Yes UKIP by virtue of their group might have more money and by flouting the rules and risking the money for EVERY member of The Group they were legitimately permitted to campaign in the interest of their members ( a rare occurance these days!).

The down side risk of their tactic with a mere 30 or so members in their Group and with maybe 10 or less UKIP members – so UKIP could fund from their cut of Group funds activities in these United Kingdoms in a referendum – Wat of the other 700+ fully funded MEPs, they of course immediately become eligible to fund EU policy and EU interests in such a referendum!

I note the sound words of Barbara BOOKER on the subject:

An inkling of the near impossibility for UKIP of drawing up a political programme with Europarty colleagues whose aim is to stay in the EU and improve how it works and develops and is perceived, can be gained from studying the way the EFD voted following Tuesday’s Europarties debate. UKIP’s MEPs and three others voted against the resolution. With one exception the Italian MEPs abstained, as did one of the Lithuanians. One Italian, the two Greeks, the Slovakian and another Lithuanian all voted in favour of the resolution.
The significant thing about this is that four of those who either voted in favour or abstained (Imbrasas, Paska, Provera and Paksas) were named in Sharon Ellul Bonici’s e-mail last October as being already confirmed/about to confirm their membership of the Europarty that Godfrey Bloom has already joined, and presumably the one that Nigel Farage wants the rest of UKIP also to join.
These group colleagues who act against what UKIP MEPs see as being in the UK’s interest, are among the very people for whom UKIP principles will be compromised or abandoned in the cause of agreeing a joint programme for the promotion of an improved EU.

Clearly prostituting what few principles UKIP has managed to hang onto, though for the life of me I’m not sure what they are would seem a very poor exchange for the 30 pieces of silver they hope to trouser!

Let us also not forget that Sharon Ellul Bonici stood as a Marxist in her home constituency in Malta! Is there nothing nor any gutter UKIP leadership will befoul themselves with for money?

TO VIEW THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE CLICK HERE

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