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#0429* – UKIP’s More Gullible Sycophants

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/04/2011

#0429* – UKIP’s More Gullible Sycophants
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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UKIP’s More Gullible Sycophants would seem to be either stunningly gullible or staggeringly dishonest!!

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Hi,

having posted Dr. Eric Edmond’s Blog posting on one of the many Forums I contribute to some chap styled callumquinn made what I considered to be an eroneous and misleading comment as follows:

[quote author=callumquinn link=topic=17161.msg418067#msg418067 date=1303213503]
You are wrong. UKIP is growing, percentage of voter has risen by nearly 8% in certains places like cornwall and norwich so[/quote]


Hi,

thanks for your correction of Dr. Eric Edmond based upon your opinion and local exceptions.

It would seem you have not seen either of the two most recent polls nor kept abreast of the activities of both a number of The UKIP MEPs and also the furore that has broken out on UKIP NEC recently.

However with a couple of isolated examples I do indeed agree – Which result are you in fact alluding to in Cornwall and Norwich, where of course on such a localised basis they MAY have found a candidate of some caliber, who like yourself seems woefully ill informed.

You may wish to brush up on some of the facts at CLICK HERE or CLICK HERE

To view the ComRes poll done on Apr-17 CLICK HERE

Also the ICS Poll is worth looking at CLICK HERE

You will note that the professionals would seem not to endorse your opinion.

Do be minded that in 18 years out of some 19,500 political positions in Britain held by election UKIP has less than 30.

Unfortunately due to an indisputable lack of vision, strategy, tactics, leadership, probity, morality, integrity, training, competence or trustworthy behaviour UKIP would seem to claim to be only standing in around 1,250 seats (including paper candidates) in the Local Elections this May and I gather this is not even eligible for free electoral broadcasts where we are told the break point is about 1,500.

It is sad to see what is at the moment our only potential lifeboat being so abused by its leadership in their self serving self enrichment and the parasites they have hired as praise singers in return for the crumbs from the troughs on the gravy train.

I am confused by your claim relative to Norwich where you claim a gain of 8% as in July 2009 you will note Glenn Tingle’s vote:

The result in full was:

Chloe Smith (C)           13,591 (39.54%, +6.29%)
Chris Ostrowski (Lab)      6,243 (18.16%, -26.70%)
April Pond (LD)            4,803 (13.97%, -2.22%)
Glenn Tingle (UKIP)        4,068 (11.83%, +9.45%)
Rupert Read (Green)        3,350 (9.74%, +7.08%)
Craig Murray (Honest)        953 (2.77%)
Robert West (BNP)            941 (2.74%)
Bill Holden (Ind)            166 (0.48%, -0.17%)
Howling Laud (Loony)         144 (0.42%)
Anne Fryatt (NOTA)            59 (0.17%)
Thomas Burridge (Libertarian) 36 (0.10%)
Peter Baggs (Ind)             23 (0.07%)

Yet by 2010 election his result had seemingly collapsed:
General Election 2010
Result:

Conservative                  17280
Labour                        13379
Liberal Democrat               7783
UKIP (Glenn Tingle)            1878    4.41%
BNP                             747
Others                          261

Regards,
Greg_L-W.
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#0428* – Rip Van Winkel Has Finally Found His Manhood on UKIP NEC

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/04/2011

#0428* – Rip Van Winkel Has Finally Found His Manhood on UKIP NEC!  
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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Rip Van Winkel Has Finally Found His Manhood on UKIP NEC!

DD has finally woken up after all these years and realised just how he has been used and abused by ‘I’, ‘I’, ‘I’!

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Hi,

it does rather look as if Douglas Denny has at last woken up and realised just how much of a puppet he has been used as and how he has consistently been duped.

This may well explain his lies and fantasies about me and others  – it is just possible that he actually believed the garbage he was being fed and then regurgitating.

As has been my style for many years I shall not publish his challenge nor ‘I’, ‘I’, ‘I’s response nor the rejoinder until I have received a copy from a second source.

However suffice to say this COULD be the step towards cleaning up UKIP to start to maker it an acceptable vote for informed, decent moral individuals – not just the children in politics, the uninformed and the dreamers not to mention the many maggots that have gathered to feed on the crumbs that fall from the the troughs of the self serving leadership.

I wish those seeking the truth and a full accounting of the £Millions that have gone missing unaccounted, the fraud and the self enrichment – little wonder that Mike Nattrass and Trevor Colman followed the lead of Nikki Sinclaire and there are clear signs that others will leave the EFD Group after the Local Elections.

Little wonder that Marta Andreasen has demanded control of her own 400 Budget and may well defect to the EPP and the center right of Spanish politics.

Little wonder that duplicitous and dishonest David Bannerman is seeking a new home having failed to gain acceptance with the Tories in the Eastern Region he is now trying to jump ship for the Tories in the South West where it is likely that he may be able to do a deal taking William Dartmouth with him.

There is a possibility of a very much better future if DD’s efforts to clean up UKIP succeed as do not forget not only does he know where many of the bodies are buried but in many instances he was duped into wielding the shovel!

Let us hope others give DD the support he will need.
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#0427* – We Must Hope True Finn Does NOT Follow UKIP to its demise!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/04/2011

#0427* – We Must Hope True Finn Does NOT Follow UKIP to its demise!
Chairman of the True Finns party Timo Soini at...Image via Wikipedia

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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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We Must Hope True Finn Does NOT Follow UKIP to its demise!
Sadly experience shows that a small amount of achievement can cause a huge amount of squabbling for places on the gravy train!
Just look at the undisciplined nature of UKIP & The BNP both in a self destruct mode of self enrichment – UNFIT FOR PURPOSE!

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The Irish Times – Monday, April 18, 2011

Eurosceptic party makes strong gains in Finnish election

DEREK SCALLY
EUROPE HAS another EU-critical party to contend with after a record number of Finnish voters backed the populist True Finns party in yesterday’s general election.
Nearly one-fifth of voters backed the nationalist, EU-critical party, opposed to euro zone bailouts, to make it Finland’s third-largest party. Victory by the True Finns, in a photo finish with two larger parties, marks a dramatic shift in Finland’s political landscape and EU relations.
“This is a victory of common sense, a victory for the Finnish people,” said leader Timo Soini to cheering supporters. He described as “historic” his party’s record 19 per cent result – a four-fold increase on the last election.
The strategy of opposing euro zone bailouts had paid off and would, Mr Soini promised, lead to at least “an invitation to coalition talks”.
The conservative National Coalition Party topped the poll with 20.4 per cent. Despite a small loss of votes, it held a slim lead that should allow leader and outgoing finance minister Jyrki Katainen become prime minister. The opposition Social Democrats (SDP) placed second on 19.1 per cent and appeared headed for power as junior partner in a two-party coalition.
But the traditionally pro-EU SDP could pose a dilemma as coalition partner for Mr Katainen; to halt voter desertion to the True Finns, the SDP ran its election campaign against “blank cheque bailouts”.
“We’ve solved more difficult things,” said Mr Katainen of the task ahead. “Finland has always been a country that solves problems, not causes them. I think we can form a majority government that solves Finland’s problems and shoulders its responsibility in the EU.”
The biggest loser in the poll was prime minister Mari Kiviniemi and her Centre Party, which was heading for opposition after haemorrhaging voters to the True Finns to finish fourth on 15.8 per cent.
Analyst Risto Uimonen forecast the “toughest coalition negotiations” in 40 years, an unstable parliament and a challenge for Mr Soini – even if his True Finns remain in opposition.
“A large number of new people arriving in parliament will cause confusion,” said Mr Uimonen. “The bigger the parliamentary party the harder it is to control.”
Analysts predict the vote will alter Finland’s previously exemplary relationship with EU partners. The True Finns, with help from the SDP, turned yesterday’s vote into a referendum on the Portugal bailout. That put the coalition parties on the defensive about the third EU bailout deal in a year and forced all political leaders to adopt new, tougher language towards Brussels.
With potent, populist slogans, the True Finns questioned Finland’s EU consensus and amplified popular resentment of EU bailouts by rekindling memories of Finland’s own – single-handed – struggle with its financial crisis two decades ago.
The outgoing government postponed a vote on Finland’s participation in a Portuguese bailout – a contribution of loans and guarantees worth more than €1 billion – saying it was the responsibility of the new parliament. Finland has already pledged about €8 billion to the permanent EU bailout fund.
Added to the populist formula of the True Finns were fears about immigration and the effect of globalisation on jobs, including concerns about telecoms giant Nokia being on the ropes and the traditional forestry industry in decline.
Sensing a populist shift, leading Finnish companies used the usual front-page advertising space of the leading Helsingin Sanomat daily to warn that Finland would be hit badly as an exporting nation if the financial crisis spread within the euro zone.

To view the original article CLICK HERE

.Let us hope that True Finn do not follow the example of UKIP and as a result of a bit of success fall to navel gazing and self seeking self enrichment as a vituperative nest of fighting ferrets in a sack – too busy jokeying for aplaces at the troughs on the gravy train to consider morality, integrity, honour or duty. Too busy on the self enrichment trail to give the vaguest thought to the electorate that entrusted them.

Too busy stuffing their pockets and screwing eachother to even consider just how damaging they have been to the straight forward honest cause of EUroScepticism let alone the more thought provoking views of EUroRealism.

The crumbs at UKIP’s table have attracted every crumb that ever had a nose for easy pickings such that the stench of corruption has lost them their much needed activist support and left them as figures of derision in a political wilderness where their only alies are the gutter sweepings of The EU as made clear at CLICK HERE

We must all hope that True Finn, despite its leadership, does not fall into the same honey trap as UKIP which has destroyed the real hopes of UKIP until it is cleaned-up and the self serving filth routed out from the top for clearly political parties and movements are like fish and rot from the head down.
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#0426* – UKIP’s Dishonourable Behaviour Spills Into The Press – AGAIN!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/04/2011

#0426* – UKIP’s Dishonourable Behaviour Spills Into The Press – AGAIN!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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UKIP’s Dishonourable Behaviour in Chorley Spills Into The Press – AGAIN!
In the manner of ‘Birds of a Feather’ I understand Nigel Farage has agreed to open ‘The Swan with Two Necks’ on Good Friday for his criminal chum Nick Hogan!

As birds go they ain’t swans but they sure have a lot of neck – Sadly not their own but it is that of UKIP that is being laid on the line for their personal vain glory!
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Hi,

as it now seems the crass behaviour of UKIP in Chorley has spilled into the realms of the media as shown by this ‘e’Mail sent, as you can see, to LEP Newsdesk which I believe is the holding company of The Chorley Guardian and other local papers – it is clearly a matter in the public domain, hence the copy forwarded to me.

Unlike the pond life that like maggots on a corpse feed as parasites of the leadership of UKIP – The author is clearly prepared to put his name to the posting and unlike the scum that has gathered around UKIP’s leadership like Skeptyc, Independent UKIP, Gothmog (William Shaw), wonkitsame (Stuart Parr), Baron von Lotsov (sure ain’t brains or common sense!), Mick McGough and the rest of the filth he is clearly an individual of some probity and established integrity.

To answer a question asked by a commentator on the UKIP controlled Forum:

Its nothing to with racism-its whether or not a member can be sacked and sacked as a candidte on the basis of a phone call to Nigel Farage and that the party’s constitution and rules are not followed.
Various Labour Mps were accused of fraud etc but the Labour party followed its discipline procedures with due process,natiral justice,oppurtunity to rebut etc.

I understand from more than one contact aware of this matter that there was zero communication with Colin Danby of an official nature – the matter was merely leaked to the media in much the same way John Ison and his associates set out to lie and defame Nikki Sinclaire using material stolen from her office and abuse of trust.

Or for that matter the engineered lies that were leaked dishonestly to Guy Basnett at The News of The World wjhen he made such a fool of himself and found he was in breach of trust having foolishly believed lies put to him seemingly with the authority of UKIP leadership, that were subsequently unsustainable but proved of short term benefit to The EU as UKIP had blocked exposure of a number of significant EU abuses of tax payers’ money.

Many will remember the pack of lies from Annabelle Fuller that Nigel Farage endorsed that led to John Wittacker’s resignation as Chairman.

You will also note the desperate and dishonest attempts to defame me with lies and childish fabrications by self serving idiots sycophantic to UKIP leadership for their personal gain.

You will be aware that after many YEARS of blogging to date NOT A SINGLE BLOG I HAVE EVER WRITTEN has been shown to be consequentially inaccurate.

Little wonder the pond life of UKIP are so desperate to suppress the truth and so ashamed that they fail to put their name to their dishonest fabrications.

So in answer to the question of ex-member NO DUE PROCESS would seem to have been followed.

I understand no due process was ever followed when Farage’s chum Tom Wise was exposed having defrauded the tax payers Farage merely accepted a donation of some £5,000 of the stolen money to pay a debt and no disciplinary action of consequence was taken, as with Stuart Agnew who openly and clearly admitted on film to electoral fraud with Malcolm Pearson and to defrauding the tax payers with David Bannerman.

Similarly no disciplinary action was taken against the liar Derek Clark nor any action for his having publicly boasted of defrauding the tax payers.

May I remind readers of the various outright breeches of The Data Protection Act by UKIP leadership and the number of guilty verdicts obtained against UKIP in various Courts. You may recall when UKIP Chairman was described in open court by a presiding judge to be an unreliable and implausible witness.

Many will be aware of the source of the leaks from the leadership of UKIP that placed John Bufton before the cameras on the despatches programme defrauding the tax payers by signing in on a Friday early morning for work and promptly flying home having obtained his per diem allowances.

Clearly in terms of leadership and Governance in ANY capacity UKIP are sadly unfit for purpose.

It is clear that an outright and bigotted comment likening an African leader to a baboon when made by a member of that sordid and clearly racist Leadership team, when made in UKIP’s name representing the party and the constituents on the floor of The EUropean so called parliament not only goes undisciplined but is not even appologised for yet when a lesser soul in a private conversation makes, what I am told was a far less notable remark based more on Politically Correct speech than racism they are summarily dismissed.

One need only to note the utterly shameful behaviour and lies promulgated about and told to Nikki Sinclaire – that Godfrey Bloom was censured for his anti homosexual behaviour by the parliament is a matter of shame to decent UKIP supporters. That Malcolm Pearson was proven to be a liar hardly helps the party.

Clearly being so utterly bereft of morality or competent leadership, being a vipers nest of liars and low lifes perhaps you will agree that encouraging ANYONE to vote for these odious people is not just an act of folly but more rationally must, by anyone of any morality, be considered a matter of shame.

We even have fools trying to pretend that in some way I would seek to harm UKIP’s ONLY asset in a desperate effort to hide the truth by defaming me the filth feeding on the corpse of UKIP invent lies, fantasies and distortions.

Fortunately in 65 years NO ONE has EVER been able to show any instance where I have EVER dishonestly or dishonourably set out to damage or malign ANYONE.

Little wonder that UKIP’s low lifes and gutter trash are so ashamed they will not put their names to their lies.

Once again I challenge these filth to call a public meeting which I can attend and try to substantiate their l;ies to my face and to the public based on fact, in their own names – I have made this challenge frequently before yet knowing their claims to be lies they have scuttled away like cockroaches to attack in a cowardly manner unable to substantiate their lies.

UKIP is clearly unfit for purpose as the following ‘e’Mail to the media shows.

A vote for UKIP in its present condition is a vote for shame.

Hence my blogs have for some time opened:

Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 

is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
a statement bourne out as fact yet again below!

—– Original Message —–

From: Ned Naylor

Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 12:20 PM
Subject: Chorley Guardian article

Dear Colin
 
Just a short note to express my dismay as to how your good name and reputation have been sullied and defamed by the details in the article printed in last weeks
Chorley Guardian.
 
I find it totally without credibility that someone like Mark Hogan, a convicted criminal who deliberately broke the law concerning smoking in his Public House, the Swan with two Knecks , and who has
spent time in prison for that offence, has the audacity to label you as a racist.   It is clear that  Mr Hogan does  not aspire to the highest standards of free speech and
cannot demonstrate that his adherence to the law of the land is unequivocal.  That he promotes his view of you being a racist via his membership of UKIP brings them into liability for allowing
such defamation.
 
Having known you personally since I moved to Clayton Le Woods in 1977 and having had regular contact over the intervening years, there has not been one occasion whereby any comment
made by you on any matter has caused me to believe you have any prejudice towards any class, creed or religious belief and you have always instilled in me the firm belief that as a civilised
society, we must be tolerant of others beliefs, but that the evil extremism we now witness in the name of the Islamic religion being perpetrated against our race, our society and our beliefs
is directly at variance with our core beliefs in accordance with the human rights act and the european convention on human rights, which guarantees, freedom of association, speech and religious
beliefs, but does not grant terrorists the right to cause us harm.
 
You are and have always been to my mind a true Brit, who has served your country well in your military career and in civilian life done nothing but good works for the benefit of your fellow
human beings.
 
I have sought out the meaning of “Defamation” which is below and I personally believe that not only Mr Hogan has defamed your good name, but that in repeating the allegations made by him in the
Chorley Guardian, a vicarious liability for promulgating such slanders also lies with the Chorley Guardian.  The effect of that article is certainly widespread as you have indicated it has been placed
on to the internet for all to see, thus causing your good name and reputation as a fair minded and tolerant individual to be demeaned in the eyes the public and left you open to ridicule, hatred
and contempt.
 
I would strongly urge you to take up this matter with the Chorley Guardian as they do carry some responsibility for what has  occurred  now in your life.
 
My solicitor is Stephen Evans at Birchall Blackburn in St Thomas’s Road, who may be able to assist you, possibly to claim damages if the impunity of your reputation is not revoked by the parties concerned
and a public apology promulgated in the associated media.
 
There is a another issue which you may wish to draw to the attention of the Police.  The effect of Mr Hogans defamation may be causing you to be or to feel harassed and there is specific protection against
harassment under the provisions of the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 which, if this matter has indeed been promulgated on to the internet and you are receiving messages of hate and criticism to make
you feel harassed, could result in a criminal prosecution under the act, you should consult the police on this and provide evidence of harassment if this is occuring.
 
 
All the best for the future and I am looking forward to your next book.
 
Regards
 
Paul A (Ned) Naylor
 
A P Financial Services UK Ltd (t/a Ned Naylor & Co)
Northwest region Client Services
The Office @ Fairhaven, 9 Ollerton St,   
Adlington, Chorley, Lancs. Pr6 9LF
Phone/Fax 01257 483640
Email – enquiries@nednaylor.co.uk
Website – http://www.nednaylor.co.uk
A P Financial Services UK Ltd is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. FSA No 218973
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Meaning of Defamation

There is no single comprehensive definition of what is defamatory. Various suggestions have been made before the courts, including any material which:

  • Is to a person’s discredit.
  • Tends to lower him or her in the estimation of others.
  • Causes him or her to be shunned or avoided.
  • Causes him or her to be exposed to hatred, ridicule or contempt.

For a statement to be defamatory the imputation must tend to lower the claimant in the estimation of right-thinking members of society generally. Even if the words damage a person in the eyes of a section of society or the community, they are not defamatory unless they amount to a disparagement of the reputation in the eyes of right-thinking people generally.

To plagiarise Colin Denby in an early publication:

 
To all the people in Britain who have known me over many years locally and Nationally, I rest my case and leave it to you to draw your own conclusions based on the facts! 
 
To all the people in Britain & The EU who know, or have had dealings with or have read about UKIP & its untrustworthy and incompetent leadership in the last 18 year, I rest my case and leave it to you to draw your own conclusions based on the facts!

I stand by my every word and am obviously able to substantiate the facts I lay before you.
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