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Archive for February 22nd, 2009

#314* – MORE EUkip FLOW CHARTS for JILL

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/02/2009


#314* – MORE EUkip FLOW CHARTS for JILL

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

MORE EUkip FLOW CHARTS for JILL SEYMOUR FURTHER TO CLICK HERE!

Hi,

Jill Seymour asked in the NEC for a copy of the Flow Charts from Toby Mickelthwaite – I provided the information on a link with lots more info at CLICK HERE

Here are the two Flow Charts:

This Flow Chart below I have provided as a link but should Toby move the site around we would lose the link so here is a copy on site.

I do hope this information is of help.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#313* – GOEBELS MERELY REPEATED LIES

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/02/2009

#313* – GOEBELS MERELY REPEATED LIES

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

GOEBELS MERELY REPEATED LIES ON THE GROUNDS THAT IF REPEATED OFTEN ENOUGH THEY WOULD BECOME THE TRUTH – A TACTIC OF SEARCHLIGHT, FABIANS, CROUCHER etc!

January 26, 2009

Political prosecutions? Goebbels would be proud!

By Gary Cartwright

Topics: Politics

In polite society we might not care much for the British National Party, but, although I too find them less than attractive, I am always slightly uncomfortable with the now customary round of arrests – (not exclusive to the BNP as Conservative MP Damian Green demonstrates) – of that party’s members, and the subsequent trials, which always seem to roughly coincide with elections. I would hate to think that the thin blue line was being stretched in order to manipulate the democratic process, but then that would never happen in Britain, would it?

My discomfort goes further than that. It is interesting to note that the UK Independence Party finds itself on the unfavourable end of a high court ruling on impermissible donations just a few short months before this year’s European elections.

The case primarily involves donations made by businessman Alan Bown, a major UKIP backer, whose name dropped briefly off the electoral register in 2005. Whilst there is no suggestion that this occurred for any fraudulent reason, and whilst UKIP won their first court battle over this issue in 2007, the granting of the Electoral Commission’s appeal cannot be helpful at such a sensitive time in the electoral cycle. UKIP stand to lose not only some £363,000 in “impermissible donations”, but will face paying the other side’s considerable legal costs as well, should they lose the next round.

Surely laws governing donations to political parties were never intended to be used in such a way. Or were they?

Funnily enough, the case against Tom Wise, a UKIP MEP, which has dragged on for years, is now reaching its final phase. Despite having been investigated and cleared of financial wrong doing by the European Parliament, South Bedfordshire police have sat on the same allegations for well over a year, but are now stirring into life.

If prosecuted, he will likely find himself in court just weeks before the Euro elections. Funny how these things work out, isn’t it?

Quite a few members of the mainstream political parties have been involved in financial scandals recently, but none of them seem to be scheduled for court between now and the elections.

Democracy, anyone?

“Political prosecutions? Goebbels would be proud!”

Greg Lance-Watkins Says:

February 22nd, 2009 at 9:53 pm

Hi,

Gary said:

whilst UKIP won their first court battle over this issue in 2007, the granting of the Electoral Commission’s appeal cannot be helpful at such a sensitive time in the electoral cycle. UKIP stand to lose not only some £363,000 in “impermissible donations”, but will face paying the other side’s considerable legal costs as well, should they lose the next round. Surely laws governing donations to political parties were never intended to be used in such a way.’

I do question whether he got this right! The claim that EUkip ‘won’ the first case just isn’t true – despite deliberate arrogance, dishonesty and hubris on the part of EUkip (particularly Nigel Farage, John Whittacker, David Lott, Andrew Smith and possibly others) EUkip was found Guilty in Court at Horseferry Road.

Indeed laws covering donations were not designed to result in being used in the way implied – they were designed to be obeyed!

That EUkip CHOSE to flout them and refused to co-operate with the Electoral Commission is a measure of the utter ineptitude of its leadership and a clear sign they are unfit for election to represent anyone.

It is a sound law with which EUkip CHOSE to play the fool.

As for the claim by Gary:

Despite having been investigated and cleared of financial wrong doing by the European Parliament,

I believe you will find not a shred of evidence to this effect, save an untruthfull misrepresentation on EUkip’s web site – as I recall a lie, one of many by Mark Croucher, in this case I believe I am correct in saying the EU insisted the lie was taken OFF of the web site.

As I recall a statement by the EU Parlaiment was made that ‘at this time THEY did not intend to take further action over the fraud concerned’ or some such.

However we understand OLAF did and also the Bedfordshire Police, particularly in view of the factually accurate reporting of fraud and embezzlement made in the National Press and elsewhere regarding The EUkip MEP Tom Wise.

That Tom Wise; still it seems a EUkip MEP, until his recent resignation, a Branch Chairman and a serving member; has been under arrest since June last year and is due to surrender to bail may well indicate that Tom Wise has either made investigation difficult or has provided a great deal of ancilliary information on the offences of fellow MEPs and the Ind.Dem.Group in some form of plea bargaining.

Let us hope justice IS SEEN to be done in these various cases.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#312* – Have A Great Day JADE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/02/2009

#312* – Have A Great Day JADE

Hi,

What ever you may feel of media exploitation and public humiliation of the innocent as a form of entertainment.

Today is and must be Jade Goodie’s day and good luck Jack Tweed many lesser men would have run away.

Jade has set a fantastic example for us all as she fights to her last breath for her children and their future.

Thank you to the medical teasm that is making this day possible for her and hope or pray whatever your belief that her day is pain free and she can find the strength to get through it.

The mean spiritted are seemingly too stupid and too self centred to understand howmany 10s, 100s, 1,000s maybe even 10s of 1,000s of lives she will save by raising the profile of simply having and following up on PAP smears and check ups.

I have had 3 or 4 and sometimes many more a year since 1998 and they have kept me alive – there is NOTHING macho about ignoring symptoms and there is no dignity in being a corpse to soon!

Just for a moment please remeber Jane Tomlinson who did so much to raise the profile of breast cancer – it would have been Jane’s 44th. birthday yesterday.

Please remember Anthony Wilson who did so much to raise awareness of Kidney Cancer.

Also remember Caron Keating of Blue Peter who died so tragically.

I had the honour to speak in support of Jade last night on the radio with Caron’s Mother Gloria Hunneyford and Mike Tomlinson, Jane’s husband.

Perhaps in the midst of this we should remember that Max clifford who has been helping Jane as a friend to manage publicity and raise funds for her boys – Max lost his wife too young and has worked vigerously for cancer charities in recent years.

I have a VERY personal interest as my partner had the same disease 13 years ago at 33 caught JUST in time, but it came with a price! My cousin died at 54 with mRCC, my partner’s Mother died of lung and brain cancer when only in her early 60s, my Father died of cancer after several years of fear from Prostate Cancer.

I know too many to list! Anyone who has cancer or is struggling to cope as a carer or bereaved is welcome to phone me if I can help in ANY way – I spoke at length with 2 who died last week and have 2 whom I chat to living locally at the moment.

My thanks to some great medical staff and my thanks to Chris Heaton – Harris MEP and David T.C. Davies MP, Steve Webb MP and many others who have gone that extra 9 yards for me and with me to get the relevant drugs and care for patients.

For more thoughts on Jade Goody CLICK HERE providing somewhat differing views!

Have a great day Jade in a dignified day your courage facing death has shown us all how to live.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

01291 – 62 65 62

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#311* – Jill SEYMOUR ASKED FOR A COPY

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/02/2009

#311* – Jill SEYMOUR ASKED FOR A COPY
Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

Jill SEYMOUR ASKED FOR A COPY OF THE EUkip FLOW CHARTS – see Her Question in the NEC Minutes CLICK HERE!

Jill SEYMOUR ASKED:

‘whether any progress had been made with the ‘Family Tree’ (EUkip hierarchy chart).

Paul NutAll:
had met with Toby Micklethwait on this earlier in the day.

(I’ll try to find time to publish this for her within the next 24 hours – sorry I forgotten she had asked for a copy. If she would like a copy by eMail just mail me otherwise it will be linked on my blog and posted probably on Google Data. I do hope this helps, well at least until you have had another committee meeting to decide which committee will deal with it until after the election is over and there will be no need for it!. G.L-W.)

Well as promised Jill – here is the simple chart – more of a send up of the 2012 Olympic Logo.

I think Tobs deserves a clap for humour – rare in EUkip!

If however you were looking for something just a tad more intelligent (or not – you decide)

EUkip ORGANISATION CHART Courtesy of Micklethwaite/Weybridge CLICK HERE

Well at this rate EUkip might work out what it is doing when it is all over!

So far it has taken 15 years to work out who does what – unfortunately I wonder if someone could let the right hand know what the left hand is up to, I appreciate the levels of trust withing EUkip’s ‘heirachy’ may make this difficult but I do think if Tobs is to draw this up someone needs to tell him there is now a COMMUNICATION Committee, which is to make Paul NutAll look as if he is doing something but don’t panic it has no function (read Paul NutAll’s explanation in The NEC MInutes).

I think it is also important that Tobs is informed that there is a POLITICAL Committee which is a committee of one which can let other people come if he wants to but it keeps no minutes and has executive rights to carry out what it wants to without consultations! For the details of this committee CLICK HERE where you will find Paul NutAll – Nigel’s unelected Puppet – explains how this scam works! You will note he seems so surprised he then goes on to explain it all again!

I do think however that Tobs should include this in his ‘Flow’ chart.

Perhaps he should put into the constipated area of the flow a dark cupbopard with what seem to be a number of hidden skeletons in boxes!:

the rubble and missing bank accounts and boxes of receipts from Ashford Call Centre,

Ashford Employment Ltd.;

The £16,000 that is alleged going missing and being part of the OLAF enquiries into one of the MEPs;

The fraud, embezzlement and money laundering reported by the media that currently has Tom Wise EUkip MEP under arrest since June last year;

there is probably a big box full of unaccounted money from the £200,000 that seemingly went missing unaccounted from Farage’s Office in the SE.,

and another box with another £200,000 that was ACCIDENTALLY banked in a private account,

Then there are the boxes from the Ramsgate Call Centre that the discreditted so called Treasurer knew nothing about, yet the books do seem to have been signed off.

Perhaps there is a large box with over £250,000 that was paid to EUkip for a Petition that was never held,

There are probably at least 5 boxes of separate receipts and the money waiting to be banked from about 5 unregistered and seemingly unaccounted Lotteries since it seems Derek Clark oversaw delisting the lottery!

I expect there is a big box marked Bruce Lawson with receipts that might happen to explain how £170,000 was spent in Wales and if it comes to that explaining his correspondence with Robin Collett and the legality of Ind.Dem.Group money being used for an election (so called!).

There are probably a number of other boxes in the FLOW chart that are needed but I’m sure that Tobs will have his foot on the pulse!

I do hope this helps Jill and she can now work out just what should be put into the new Limited Company so that her husband doesn’t find he is liable for any of these problems.

I gather Alan Bown is still over a barrel paying between £1/2 > 1Million when the Electoral Commission finally completes sorting out the forfeiture and costs incurred by the lies and dishonesty of Andrew Smith aided we know by Nigel Farage and others!

Personally I do not believe campaigning for or voting for EUkip in the upcoming elections can be seen as anything other than at best ignorant folly but in reality an act of dishonesty as there is so much covered up and it is clear that in 15 years EUkip has failed to act responsibly and can not claim a single solitary notable achievement moving Britain closer to the exit from the EU.

One only has to see the collapse in votes in ALL recent elections and the abysmal lack of morality and integrity of The NEC, The leadership and many of the staff and a small corrupt clique that have with their dishonesty and agresive abuse of others done EUkip such great harm.

A vote for EUkip seems all too clearly to be a vote against British values of Justice, honesty, morality, integrity, probity and ethics – a vote of shame.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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