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Archive for February 19th, 2009

#307* – BETTING ON THE EUkip VOTE!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/02/2009

#307* – BETTING ON THE EUkip VOTE!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

BETTING ON THE EUkip VOTE – A TIP: NEVER BET AGAINST THE HOUSE ON A RIGGED TABLE!!

Hi,

I had thought to publish the results of the NEC vote and the vote for the constitutional changes as soon as I knew them – early.

However discretion being the better part of valour I realised that since EUkip and its present disreputable shower of leadership, NEC & staff are proven beyond ANY doubt to be liars, cheats and bullies and since they have a well established and substantiated track record of rigging and fiddling votes – consider the corruption that gained Farage the leadership.

No one could claim that Farage was elected leader of the party in any meaningfull sense of the word.

Similarly we know beyond all doubt and there is a fully attested and substantiated OFFICIAL report by the Returning Officer that EUkip’ selection and election of MEP candidates was so dishonest and corrupt that individuals of integrity to a man/woman believe it should be run again under third party management as EUkip’s NEC & leadership are not to be trusted.

It therefore struck me that it would be wise not to publish the results early or to announce when they were being proclaimed as those in charge at EUkip are so dishonest they would merely change them to try to pretend I had lied!

That they can find no instance ANYWHERE that I have materially misled ANYONE EVER leaves them looking a little foolish as I seek no office not status, income or bribe.

I merely want these United Kingdoms liberated from vassal status in the duplicitous and centralised supra national, self serving EU – a task which EUkip has betrayed the electorate in not addressing but in colluding in the corruption.

I shall await the fanfare of flattulence on the announcement of the results decided on – since no one but a fool could draw anything but shame from being party to such palpable dishonesty.

However the vote is rigged is of no consequence as to actively campaign for representation by EUkip and the scum that has risen to its top is an act of treachery in betrayal of these United Kingdoms.

Make the June Election a referendum on The Constitution Lisbon Treaty.

Write LEAVE THE EU
on your Ballot paper.

Encourage Patriotic Labour voters, Lib. dims., Tories and all of the Patriots in the other parties to LEND THEIR VOTE to the cause

Don’t vote for Politicians or Parties it clearly only encourages them in their self enrichment and betrayal of the electorate.

A vote for a Politician or a party is a vote wasted.
You have seen how they behave stuffing their pockets, their banks, their expenses, their faces and their hired doxies!

Write LEAVE THE EU
on your ballot paper
&
Make your vote count in the referendum against The Constitution Lisbon Treaty.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#306* – for EUkip ONLY THE DEPTH OF THE ORDURE VARIES

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/02/2009

#306* – for EUkip ONLY THE DEPTH OF THE ORDURE VARIES

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

for EUkip ONLY THE DEPTH OF THE ORDURE VARIES WITH TIME!

Hi,

it is interesting to note from the photo below supplied via the web to The BNP where I sourced it, that this picture taken by an EU staffer on Farage’s payroll – who worked for Searchlight providing membership details back in the days when UKIP members were unaware of just how corrupt were the leadership and many of their staff.

You will note that then as now Farage was well placed standing in the mire! In the picture we are assured he is duping the viewer as he is not, as he would pretend, fishing but standing in a filthy puddle of mud etc. on a building site where a Hospital had been knocked down in Kent!

It must be noted that like so much else the present EUkip leadership does this photo was a fake to fool the members and seemingly The BNP!

You only have to study a few of the videos on YouTube promoting EUkip to realise they are fakes, with changes of clothing and of seats in the continuum of a sentence – then there are the lies about withdrawing the wip from Tom Wise when EUkip has no whip in the EU Parliament and Tom Wise MEP EUkip can be seen holding up the banner in the very latest of their Farage Feste Films.

Astonishingly I tripped over an eMail in my arcive (rare – I can never find what I’m looking for – well not so rare I wasn’t looking for this!).

This eMail is so very prescient – it is largely as accurate now as it was then. Would that it had been heeded and now with RAS having implimented structures, professional standards and transparent books – we could be capitalising on the skills of men like Dr. David Abbott with outlines of the benefits of leaving the EU to the NHS and the health of the peoples.

Prof. Tim Condon would have been only too happy to have used UKIP as a vehicle badged to his towering Economic skills in pronouncements and pamphlets on the financial crisis and UKIP’s solution – aided by both Dr. Eric Edmond and Richard Suckorchevski who are well trained to assist.

UKIP would not have entered into the folly of hiring the discreditted Marta Andreasen as Martin Hasslam was an excellent accountant and would happily have worked with a professional banker as leader.

There is no doubt the party needed a performing monkey to attract the crowds and who better than a failed City barrow boy – all the razzama Tazz of the fairground and the fun and pomp of the idiotic EU so called parliament – whilst the organ grinder and his team played on in fair AND sonorous tones.

How we wish the game had played out with Petrina Holdsworth as a trained Barrister overseeing the role of Party secretary and Chairman to lend a hand where needed. ALL of this was in place had oit not been for the idiocy of the sad and insecure little Farage – too weak and too imature to see the bigger picture and too willing to think with his little head rather than his big one!

Now in the run up to June 2009 we could be looking at a solid 20+ MEPs and moves to bring Britain out of the EU with the Tories aware they stood no chance of election without the 3 Million + UKIP voters lending them their vote!

Instead like a raddled whore EUkip lies, cheats, bullies and strugles for survival having driven away everey competent brain or political thinker – replaced by fools, chavs and children!

It is increasingly likely that EUkip will fail to get a single MEP and however they do Farage has promised to leave if they do not get MORE than 10 MEPs – So having destroyed the party he will leave!!!

Is that the aim?

Just think back to the opportunity that was lost when I wrote the letter on 26-June-2006:

From: glanceback

Mailto: greg.glanceback@btconnect.com]

Sent: 26 June 2006 01:49

Subject: re: R.A.S.

Hi,

I haven t asked Richard about this but I have sent him a copy.

I am taking this action unsolicited as I do not believe he is sufficiently able to push himself on this issue without goading!

I would be glad if you could leak out, publish, promote the following info.

Clearly unattached to my name:

Richard A. Suchorzewski, who s nick name at school was alphabet both because of the difficulty of pronounciation and also the fact that his full name contains almost all the different letters and is 26 letters long!

Richard’s father came to live in Britain at the end of the war by choice rather than by mere accident of birth!

What little I have gleaned of Richard s background is that his Mother is pure Valleys bred Welsh and his Father is Polish Richard and his brothers are ALL British born and raised.Richard’s father I understand was of a family of some stature in Poland and the surname is relatively uncommon even in Poland the only Suchorzewskis in Britain are his immediate descendents though a distant relative from Poland is from time to time a visiting Professor.

Richard’s Father came originally from Krackov (sp.?) where his Grandfather was a Mayor or equivalent.

The last Richard’s Father saw of his Grand Father was finding him hanged on a lamppost for having defied the Germans, at that time his Father was seized and taken to the Labour Camps never to be heard of again!

Richard’s Father took to the forests as a Partisan at the age of 14 or 15!

There he fought against the Germans moving steadily south until towards the end of the war he was in Italy working with Partisans and in some capacity with stores department with the advancing allies.

It was in Northern Italy that General Dudzinski led the last cavalry charge in western history charging The Polish Cavalry against tanks, Dudzinski’s son served with me in the Army more than half a lifetime ago 😦

At the end of the war Richard’s Father was awarded a notable Polish Decoration for his services and was granted, by edict of Churchill, the freedom to remain as a British citizen in Britain OR repatriation to Poland.

Since Poland was under the heel of the Russian Soviet one must assume he made the right choice.

Suchorzewski is not a name to be other than proud of and Richard has every right to venerate his Families commitment to the values of Britain and defence of their country and is clearly proud of his Father’s achievements starting at so young an age and surviving so much to gain Churchill s grant of citizenship as I recall Heath, Wilson, Blair, Prescott, Straw, Patten, Major, Rippon, Kinnock are all British names and to a man they have betrayed Britain so let us consider who is on our side!

Am I not right that Farage is a Seffadic Jewish name from Sicily?

Farage has worked tirelessly if somewhat misguidedly in defence of Britain, alone without competent leadership and guidance, yet Farage is a name not uncommon in Palestine and known in Iraq.

Sailor Malan was one of the most highly decorated fighter aces of the last war against EUropean Union though he was a South African as was Jan Smutts who structured the RAF. There is no shame in foreign roots!

It was some time before Richard’s parents met and were married and subsequently Richard was born and grew up in the Eastern Valleys of Wales.

Richard after obtaining his degree and other qualifications relocated to London from his position in Bank Management in Newport to Head Office management in London, where amongst other roles he performed was Political lobbyist for Lloyds/TSB and their clients in Westminster entertaining and lobbying individuals currently in The Cabinet and in senior Government & opposition posts and The Civil Service.

Realising the treadmill of his life and with an impending divorce (all be it amicable with no children) Richard decided it was time to change direction and it was at this stage that he began to see through the Tory Boy arrogance of the Tory Party realising he could not continue supporting them much longer with their dishonest policies regarding the EU despite having risen to PPC and deputy Chairman Wales for the Tories.

Despite no clear future in politics and no positions on offer in UKIP he joined the Party some two years ago rising by due diligence, commitment and the integrity to demand transparency in UKIPWales ,whilst putting in place management structures that have made his job as UKIPWales Chairman so much more productive systems that can be rolled out across Britain as soon as his leadership is confirmed.

Richard may not have the flowery showmanship of Farage but there is no doubt who has the skills to run UKIP Farage has had 13 years to shine and to this day he has never been more than a salesman operating a series of weak leaders like Knapman, Campbell, Lott, Titford, Holmes and the like as little more than intimidated glove puppets.

Farage s temper tantrums and showing off so redolent of his position as a salesman and so valuable to UKIP when performing to the gallery cut little ice at a grown up board room table and impress only the gullible hence UKIP has failed to attract finance or backing of gravitas merely an individual at a time or the rejects and failures from The Tory Party like Knapman & Campbell.

Knapman s move to UKIP is well known to be no more than expediency as after trashing the safe Tory seat of Stroud at the election when he applied to rejoin the PCList he was refused!

There may be a couple of dramatic weeks on Richard s takeover as leader and some of the MEPs may feel they are far to important to work for Britain or UKIP so be it there are few who would be a loss and several by whose loss UKIP could only gain.For UKIP to grow again it MUST be founded on sound foundations and it must institute sound structures, training and briefing policies with absolute probity in financial matters and ring fencing of all donations which must be from a broader sound base.

Richard can deliver this quietly and ruthlessly in the interests of our Country, UKIP and its members in the interests of these United Kingdoms and our future.

**END**

Please note ‘Campbell’ is known now as Bannerman – it would seem in the intervening years his fraudulent lies and dishonesty have made it no clearer who he actually is save only claims that he is related to a desk! Perchance conceived on one in India with a servant girl – who really knows all we can be certain of is that he is absolutely no relation by blood in any meaningfull terms of the long dead and little known Liberal Prime Minsiter Henry Campbell Bannerman for he had no progeny and addopted the name from a distant cousin!!!

That EUkip’s deputy leader is a fraud a liar and a cheat is possibly the only part of his story that can be ascertained in certainty!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#305* – ABOUT AS MUCH POLITICAL NOUSE AS SONTARANS

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/02/2009

#305* – ABOUT AS MUCH POLITICAL NOUSE AS SONTARANS

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%a bad name!

ABOUT AS MUCH POLITICAL NOUSE AS SONTARANS, THE INHABITANTS OF PLANET MANGLE ARE CHALLENGED BY MANNERS AND HUMOUR, CONNECTING MOUTH WITH BRAIN via KEYBOARD WITH VISIBLE DIFFICULTY!
Hi,
It is sad to see EUkip sink to such levels that they would permit such an odious coward to present himself as a PPC even in an area where he stands no chance!

You need only to read the lies, distortions and libels posted on Junius Blog as comments – where he is now banned for his dishonesty, bullying and aggression. He makes a fool of himself and the Party by mimmicking the behaviour of the ever more frantic Mark cCoucher in defence no doubt of his income which he sees as challenged.

Croucher has no grounds to demean himself with rolling in the gutter and covering himself with ordure to harm others – it is he who is so clearly demeaned by his irelevant or distastefull assertions. How very very common is his alter ego the common man – less the common man than a shamed child, too guilty to put their name to their bile.

Now stooping I gather, having defamed so many to defaming a Judge by putting false testimony in his mouth! Their childish attacks on me are a sign of their spite and stupidity as I seek no favours, campaign for no position and put no more value on their opinion than do my friends.

In 300 postings on this Blog series alone – NOT ONE fact has been gratuitously mallicious against someone not seeking preferment or power, income or status and not a single solitary fact can be challenged as materially false or untrue.

Never have we joined EUkip and its duplicitous underhand supporters in the gutter, which they so clearly inhabit.

I appreciate it is the tactic of the coward and the loser to attack the messengers to hide their crimes. If EUkip had behaved honourably, in the interests of these United Kingdoms I would have no message to bring and could merely support and campaign for the long dead UKIP.

Their posturing as they watch their little gravy train turn cold and congeal is ever more transparent and its close link with EUkip’s leadership damages the rump EUkip more than ever anyone outside could.

Consider the support given providing The BFM, Croucher, Denny and their odious ilk in providing them with platforms and links on what was The UKIP Forum now slid into the gutter as The BDF dishonestly and corruptly hosted in the main by Anthony Butcher & Brendan Padmore (unsurprisingly sheltering his duplicity behind a duplicate identity as B.A. Ware!).

Anthony Butcher may well be practicing these double standards and dishonest moderating to support his new set of principles – the third in not many more years! – for he like myself is running an unofficial Blog – his for Declan Ganley, terying to shield the truth and mine on Libertas UK seeking to expose some of the dishonesty and duplicity of Libertas – as I do with EUkip.

Such a shame they have so betrayed us all. As activists and supporters of UKIP we had such great hopes for UKIP until it crashed off the rails in a series of scandals, lies, infighting, dishonesty, corruption, self seeking greed and missing money.

There is very little chance left for decent, honest supporters of UKIP with principle wresting it back from liars, cheats, bullies and racists who have so debased it as EUkip.

UKIP supporters that are left seem only to have one duty left and that is to ensure the corrupt and dishonest rump of UKIP, masquerading as EUkip, are destroyed so that no one can stuff their pockets in the EU in the pretence of representing these United Kingdoms.
Since there is clearly no honourable Political Party campaigning to get Britain out of the EU may I suggest treat the election in June as a referendum and write on your ballott paper:
LEAVE THE EU
Put it at the end of your Blogs, eMails, letters and on your envelopes.
LEAVE THE EU
Don’t vote for a Party or an individual – look how they betrayed us last time.
100s of 1,000s LENT UKIP their vote last time and EUkip betrayed them NEVER AGAIN LEND YOUR VOTE.
Write on your Ballot Paper:

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.
Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.
The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!
To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!
Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62
PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!
I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.
Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:
LEAVE THE EU

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