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#320* – EUkip – WHO LIED, ARNOTT, REEVE or CROUCHER?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/02/2009


#320* – EUkip – WHO LIED, ARNOTT, REEVE or CROUCHER?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%a bad name!
EUkip MIGHT CARE TO CLARIFY – WHO LIED, THEIR GENERAL SECRETARY little Jonathan ARNOTT, their Discreditted Regional Organiser Peter REEVE or their little failure & fixer Mark CROUCHER?!

Hi,

Since Jonathan Arnott was EUkip’s official gofer sent to hear the verdict in Court and he had taken Peter Reeve along for some more Court experience it is clear that one of these provided the information to Mark Croucher and or their chums on the common man blog which is used by EUkip to defame those who might stand between the greed of its leadership and the troughs on the gravy train – little do they realise the astonishing and disproportionate damge it has done their cause.

But no matter few read it and less are foolish enough to believe it.

It is sad really that the likes of Croucher, NuttAll, Reeve, Bannerman, McGough, Bob Feel Martinis, Denny, Zucherman and their ilk have so damaged UKIP as we had such high hopes until they dragged the party into their gutter as a corrupt and vile self enrichment scam.

In happier days proud to have been selected as PPCs in different constituencies, knowing with their inexperience they were unlikely to be elected as MPs but proud none the less to act as Patriots and carry the banner forward for our liberation from the EU – The Wests visited Westminster so that they could represent UKIP just that little bit better.

They campaigned for Gerard Batten aware that he was openly saying he didn’t stand a chance, but they campaigned for him none the less to get the message out.

Though I am aware they were saddened by his open discussion of probable defeat in the General Election ans well as the London Election – They were shocked that he was openly stating that he didn’t stand a chance and in the Assembly election it was probable EUkip would get no seats but the BNP would and that he was certain he would lose his MEP seat if Farage didn’t steal it from him but either way EUkip wouldn’t get an MEP but he was sure Barnbrook of the BNP would get a seat and the BNP might even get 2 seats.

They went back to their constituencies not to give up but to work to improve EUkip’s chances by reporting dishonesty and corruption, first to Christopher Gill who didn’t give a damn, then via an intermediary to Farage. Failing that and aware he ‘didn’t give a stuff’ they tried Gerard Batten who said they shouldn’t take any action because the individual was a EUkip Official and when asked would he do anything if a EUkip official committed murder he refused to answer!

It has been stated on The Forum that firstly they had lied and they had not gone to the Small Claims Court – then lies were posted that they had NOT been advised a Judicial Review might be more appropriate, by amongst others EUkip’s Village idiot from Swindon who said it wasn’t true.

Here is the truth in a document I have obtained from teh Court – despite the lies and misrepresentations of the Swindon Idiot Bob FM that serving officers and courts wouldn’t speak to me!

As a point of interest I spoke with two today and have an arrangement to discuss EUkip with another tomorrow and with The Data Protection Agency. But the latter is on a different aspect of EUkip’s criminality.

Here is the document which very clearly states JUDICIAL REVIEW – Perhaps the Swindon Idiot might be man enough to apologise for his arrogant dishonesty!

Interestingly the Court Document received this evening did not substantiate the dishonest representation made on Butcher’s grubby little Forum and left in situ that implied that the Judge (whose name Croucher and his mates managed to get wrong for starters) had made ANY of the statements seeming to support what can only be described as lies by Croucher and others.

The case was passed from Small Claims WITHOUT DISMISSING IT and it is clear that The Plaintiff is advised to take other such legal action as they wish.

I understand the appointment is in place with specialist solicitors for next week to consider the next move and The Wests are clearly able to consider Judicial Review as shown by the Court papers above. Though the suggestion was handed down by a different Judge.

Perhaps EUkip would care for once to act with integrity and apologise for the fact that they have CRIMINALLY put words into The Judges mouth and a complaint of Contempt of Court has been lodged as a separate entity. We understand the Judge is not well pleased with Contempt by EUkip.

It might be sensible for EUkip to start using intelligence and common sense rather than serially making complete idiots of themselves but one only needs to look at the calibre of its leadership, NEC, senior staff and main supporters to know that they spend more time thinking of their small heads than with their big heads!

EUkip is a disgrace to British Politics and has betrayed the British peoples. We expected Labour to betray us, we knew the Lib.Dims. would, we thought the Tories might but the real betrayal is that UKIP who promised to represent us honestly and expose corruption clearly deliberately betrayed us and went native joining in corruption where ever it fely in its arrogance, self importance and hubris it could get away with it.

Is it any wonder EUkip would seem to have no backers except a dodgey retired gambler, no Patrons of meningfull stature, no spokesmen of gravitas or competence – just a bunch of oiks and nere do wells.

Will they appologise for their behaviour – of course they won’t cowards and scum sadly!

TO LEAVE THE EU
What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!
Regards,

Greg L-W.

01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:
LEAVE THE EU

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#319* – TOO STUPID TO REALISE HIS OWN STUPIDITY!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/02/2009

#319* – TOO STUPID TO REALISE HIS OWN STUPIDITY!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

TOO STUPID TO REALISE HIS OWN STUPIDITY – EUkip’s EMBARRASSING SWINDON PPC!!

Hi,

one has to wonder just what drains they had to take the lids off of to find such vile little people as currently form the leadership, NEC, senior members and their revolting supporters.

It is hardly any wonder that they have failed to find a single solitary prospective MEP to stand for them in first or second position of any calibre, reputation or gravitas. A more disgusting selection of liars, cheats and pond life one would have to work very hard to find.

Just look at the lists – Liars, Cheats, Drunks, Low Lifes and trash – almost without exception!

The support team you have read of in the last couple of postings here well explain the collapse in membership from almost 30,000 to a claimed tad over 14,000 – a collapse greater than 50%, in a period during which opposition to the EU has grown steeply, rejection of alien rule has burgeoned and UKIP would have done so very very well.

OK it WAS a myth that at the last General Election EUkip unseated 27 Tories – it is questionable if they accounted for the loss of more than 3 or 4. In the early hours of the count it was clear (well it was before hand but we had to hide the fact) EUkip didn’t stand a prayer of getting anyone elected, we knew long before the election that no one was likely to come close.

Being the character he was Knapman the then leader thought talking to halls of people (well 10 or 12) over 100s of miles was wothwhile – well it was for raising Farage’s profile as he was around showboating whilst Knapman naiively ran himself into the ground.

The real damage was done by Nattrasse as I and 2 anti EU Tories had come up with the slogan lend us your vote during the presceding EUro elections and the clear slogan Just Say NO which I had previously had emblazened on TShirts for Welsh devolution – where EUkip were almost invisible but the NO vote won save for the lies and cheating of Ron Davies and his cronies.

Nattrasse being without understanding of honour, integrity, morality or ethics saw fit to betray the Party in the GE and reneiged on our undertaking to The Tories – Knapman was too weak to stand his ground and after the election EUkip were a mistrusted joke of NO political relevance.

Dr. Richard North & I in an attempt to maintain some pressure on the Tories and keep them aware of the EUroSceptic vote opted for the figure 27 as the number of seats EUkip had cost the Tories – pure hokum.

Now not only have EUkip proved utterly dishonorable at home but it is clear they have done NOTHING of value in the EU as they emerge from their self enrichment scams and self indulgence to pour money in advertising into getting another ride on the gravy train stuffing their pockets, their secretaries and their faces at the public’s expense.

I was going to answer the letter below which is so simptomatic of the scum that EUkip has had to scrape out of the gutters to use like toilet paper – to be discarded when it suits them.

You will no doubt understand why all but the trash have left EUkip when you read the letter from this self important arrogant idiotic busy body:

Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:58:51 +0000

From: r.feal-martinez@btconnect.com

Subject: Your Defence Fund

Dear Mr West,

I am sure you will be well aware of the current threads on the British Democracy Forum with regard to this matter. You have publically claimed that you have received no monies from this fund.

It is my view that the evasion of the detail of this fund by Niall Warry is doing his and frankly your credibility untold damage. I am personally not interested in the rights and wrongs of your claims against the party, that is for others to determine.

What does interest me is whether you have been party to this fund.

It was set up to fund your legal actions, and I don’t have a problem with that. However the manner it was set up as has been said at length breaches the criminal law, and anyone actively administering it or party to that administration commits a criminal offence.

To seek to evade potential liabilities by ‘hiding’ donors details is well covered by statute.

I have a two simple questions for you, which of course you are at liberty to ignore:

Have you had any active involvement with the administration of this fund?

Is there a list of donors, who have verified they are happy with the ‘probity’ of this fund.?

Robert Feal-Martinez
Chairmand and PPC UKIP Swindon

Minded of just how consistently illiterate this odious little parasite is when he posts elsewhere one must wonder which of the pond life who act as his puppet masters wrote this letter. His Mangling of the English language is a source or ridicule and derision oon Forums where he posts as again and again he uses his own language known widely as Manglish!

I do not believe he wrote this letter he is merely ‘the sad exploited fool – Swindon’s very own village idiot! Set up time and time again by those exploiting him in EUkip to lie and disemble and make an utter fool of himself.

It is this sort of behaviour and the fact that such odious and underhand self proclaimed little bullies could possibly be seen as PPCs that has lost EUkip almost the total support of the honest decent activists.

Just for the record – whoever wrote the letter for him:

It is absolutely none of your business – perhaps making some effort to identify if ANY of EUkip’s candidates are worth voting for would be a wiser move for your handlers to address you foolish little chap.

Rather than puff up your sad little chest trying to seem important busy bodying like a maiden aut at a keyhole you might consider where over £1,000,000 of EUkip funds would seem to have vanished unaccounted for in any meaningfull sense.

Perhaps you would care to establish why a liar and a cheat is Party treasurer having seemingly misled her past 2 employers – The OECD against whom she lost a case wich included accusations against her of racism (I am happy to provide the evidence yet again if your synapsese fail you!) – similarly a candidate who pays his wife out of funds available to the party when she does NO meaningfull work merely it seems answers the phone to collect him from the bedrooms of prostitutes when she isn’t too busy!

Perhaps you could ask Graham Booth for details of that luxury BED & breakfast in FULLY serviced rooms that he visited. Perchance rather than seek to bully genuine hones people like a coward you might care to establish EXACTLY why John Whittacker signed a letter that was an outright tissue of lies in a crass and implausible attempt to provide Annabelle Fuller with a false and dishonest alibi for her criminal behaviour.

Perhaps it would be a good idea if Mr. Know it All Johnny Come Lately were to apologise for his pig ignorant manner and his regular lies and dishonesty and then have the integrity to resign from EUkip rather than befoul the party yet further with his disgusting bbehaviour and constant self important aggresion.

Too much the coward to call the meeting I offered you – you run away name calling. What a coward, you haven’t a clue what you are talking about most of the time though I must applaud your ability to use other peoples words and twist them to suit your shamefull and mallign personal ambitions.

Look around you and look at just how revolting are those who are left posturing and name calling in what was potentially the only hope for a rapid exit from the EU.

I would rather be ruled by the EU than by filth like you and your cronies – we could at least disown such filth and then campaign for liberation from the EU – something EUkip has done spectacularly little of being much too busy with self important fools like you sheltering the self enrichment scams of the few EU usefull idiots.

We can however expect a flurry of activity and dishonest jockeying for positions as they fight and squabble and spend other peoples money to get back on the gravy train.

In simple answer to your vicious and repulsive little letter.

It is NONE of YOUR business – if you have any reason to believe it is may I suggest you put your money where your overly large mouth is employ such brain cells as you can muster – rehearse the English and hire yourself a lawyer.

Further contact to anyone or comment from you on this matter or related matters will clearly constitute harrassment. Frankly aware that you are clearly unstable I don’t much care if you blather on until you foam at the mouth your flatullent intellect bothers me not but be warned others may not be so generous. You are in the unfortunate position that your serial repetition of how clever you are because you got a certificate in the police will probably count heavily against you as it is pretending to a legal status you never did and do not hold – that is why Police Constables wear big stout boots and lawyers tend to wear light weight shoes and expensive suits!

You are an idiot and sadly idiots like small children have a tendency to take on the world with the encouragement of one person they think is an adult.

If you feel you have a case for any of your lies and dishonesty stop being a coward and take legal action OR call the meeting I have offered you.

In default rather than advertise your cowardice and dishonesty I suggest your silence.

You are unfit for office and I personally would not trust you as office janitor under supervision.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

Posted in EUkip; UKIP; Bob FM; Bob Feal Martinez; Coward; cowardice; | Leave a Comment »

#318* – Ma ZUCHERMAN IS HIGHLY THOUGHT OF!!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/02/2009

#318* – Ma ZUCHERMAN IS HIGHLY THOUGHT OF!!!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%a bad name!

Ma ZUCHERMAN IS HIGHLY THOUGHT OF – I GUESS NOT BY EUkip’s IN HOUSE FOOL, nor BY ITS GOFER!!!!

Hi,

aware that EUkip NEC had reinstated Niall Warry – having done a little homework no doubt someone rather belatedly discovered that a mere bagattelle like a Judicial Review was of little consequence to him – it was a matter of principle and his resolve had been hardened to win by the manner in which supporters of the indisputably corrupt leadership, MEPs, NEC and senior employees were prepared to pick on him and try to defame him without doing the simplest of homework.

I had opted NOT to publish this fact to give EUkip a chance to act honourably for once – they did not and to date have not. The information has leaked to him from other sources besides myself. I had asked him to say nothing of it until he was officially informed.

To date EUkip has lacked the common decency to ‘give him a quick call and advise him a letter was on route’ nor had they the vaguest understanding of how to act honourably – and these pond life have the brazen front to claim to support British values!

If you have not read #3178 – CLICK HERE you may as yet be unaware as to why I am publishing the letters below, which I have had since they were written – another late owl read #317* – seemingly as soon as it was posted and in disgust opted to supply me with copies of the correspondence. That I had it already is not material – I have a great deal of EUkip correspondence and access to more if not most which is of consequence.

I tend not to publish verbatim material without a secondary source.

Make of this correspondence what you will but do ask if any of these members of The NEC or MEPs can in any way represent the values of our people. Their behaviour is on a par with such filth as McGough, Bannermann, Bob FM, Croucher, Malcolm Wood, Hugh Williams, Marta Andreasen, Nigel Farage, Graham Booth, Golom/Gulleford, Wittmore, George Curtis, Andrew Smith, Gerard Batten and sadly so many more that drag EUkip’s name into the gutter in which they reside.

Be minded that throughout many years of service to EUkip Niall Warry has NEVER gainsyed the party UKIP or its grass roots – though he has done much to try to clean up the befouled party particularly under the corrupt, dishonest and incompetent leadership of Farage.

Any Party that is incapable of robust discussion of aims, views and changes of direction can only be seen as having a lack of competent leadership and much to hide.

The more of the correspondence I publish the more you will realise they are unfit for office.

I have altered words and sequences within these letters to obfuscate my sources but I am happy to present them as evidence in Court both in this form and as I received them as I have NOT altered them with a view to alter meaning or intent.

Subject: Niall Warry case

Doug,

Please consider this to be a personal email. I’m there merely to take minutes and give any reports when requested. I don’t want to be quoted on this as it’s not appropriate for me to comment publicly on NEC decisions especially given that I’m not on the NEC.

I have three questions further to the ones you raise which I believe support your position. My ‘gut’ feeling is with you on this one :

1. Would a judge really force a political party to have as a member someone that they do not want?

2. There was a note on the Head Office system saying that Niall Warry had stated he would not be renewing his membership. Therefore are we within our rights to treat that as a resignation that has been post-dated (and on which basis we did not take disciplinary action sooner), in which case this is in any case a new membership application and can be rejected?

3. The chance that this is a bluff must surely be very high – what does Niall Warry have to gain from taking legal action in order to get himself back into the party and then immediately suspended?

Yours,
Jonathan Arnott

Subject: Re: Niall Warry case – reply – Douglas > Jonathan Arnott

Jonathan,

Many thanks for your kind support and comments on this.

Indeed any e-mail to me is personal unless you say otherwise. I consider the medium in principle to be the same as a written letter.

I am frankly quite put out that we allowed ourselves to be railroaded by Warry into a ridiculous decision, with what is quite obviously a bluff intended to discommode us. It makes us look foolish and weak. I was surprised Nigel even looked like a soggy sheep and waffled about it.

It annoys me that we seem to be fire-fighting all the time instead of taking attacks like this face-on with hard resolve, and kicking them into touch. In fact if such cases ever get anywhere near a court, one can always make a retraction/apologies then at the first hearing which is enough to put a stop to it. .

As you say, Warry already had made it clear he had resigned – that was stated at the committee but everyone ignored its significance – and a verbal statement alone to that effect is enough of a contract in law to be applicable in any court. Furthermore he would never have the money himself to make a challenge in court, and anyone putting up the moolah would be utterly stupid risking wasting it on a very weak case, which would almost certainly go against with nearly 99.9% probability.

These two issues would never get beyond a letter or two between solicitors

If Ok with you I might put these further points of yours in another general e-mail to the NEC if there is no further response from MZ.

I will force his hand eventually or make him look a fool.

I have to say too that to me, MZ has proved himself to be a dubious P.Secretary. There have been a number of times when I have wondered about his competence as a lawyer.


I don’t mind saying that because I would happily say so his face (I would not say anything about someone behind their back that I would not be willing to say to their face). In fact have come close to doing so. The only reason I have not is for the sake of conciliatory harmony in the NEC, but it is not easy for my personal disposition to accept fools lightly, and those last two decisions lead by him which swung the NEC into unnecessary decisions are foolish enough by any standard in my opinion.

I know for a fact he deliberately will not answer anything to anyone, unless practically forced to, and complained to me once about being too busy to answer silly people asking silly questions – as he sees it. The whole idea of a PS is to deal with the queries coming in, and organise the direction of party business within his remit. He does not seem willing to do this, beyond narrow confines of what he deems suitable. My opinion is if he does not like the heat he should get out of the kitchen.

His other opinion about the alleged libel by Paul made by Abbott is another case in point – I am quite sure MZ is wrong in thinking any court would consider such a weak linkage to be a libel – and even if it did, they would most likely loose their own costs if not the whole case. It would never get that far.

We were railroaded into a weak position by a bluff again.

To put a libel case forwards it costs £20,000 + (that figure was from Zuckerman’s own mouth about libel mentioned in the past) – and no one is going to risk that kind of money on a weak case like that. Apparently another solicitor who actually deals with libel cases that Paul Nuttal knows thinks MZ is totally wrong.

That’s good enough for me.

Anyway – I shall wait to see if any further response then turn up the heat on Michael if he does not comply with my request to answer.

Best regards,
Douglas.

P.S. Hope you enjoyed your stay in Gibraltar. Did you win any chess?


Anyone who does not see within seconds the utter self serving duplicity of these people do mail me and I will revisit the matter.

As a second rate barrack room lawyer Denny consistently makes a fool of himself – blinded by his lack of morality and the huge and omni present chips on his shoulders.

Jonathan Arnott is merely a fool who was good at sums – she has shown absolutely no aptitude for leadership and the NEC is right to use him as little more than a stenographer as a substitute for an MP3/4 and a teas made!

He brings to the NEC no serious experience of anything of political value and less of commercial sense. He is an effete and useless lad who has every probability of growing up as a Bannerman – he had better relate himself to a desk as his cover at the first opportunity!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border. NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

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#317* – CROUCHER SHOWS EUkip FOR THE FOOLS THEY ARE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/02/2009

#317* – CROUCHER SHOWS EUkip FOR THE FOOLS THEY ARE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

CROUCHER SHOWS EUkip FOR THE FOOLS THEY ARE, AIDED BY The BFM & The Liar McGOUGH!

Hi,

Clearly now Mark Croucher is acting for and on behalf of EUkip as shown in various ways – Firstly his tenacity in making a fool of himself on a serial basis attacking me when a misguided perception can only be seen as of benefit to EUkip in suppressing the publication of substantiated facts about EUkip by myself.

Seemingly colluding with EUkip in a dishonest attempt at extortion.

Persuing and defaming people based on no substantive evidence yet repeatedly making the same defamatory statements – aided by Brendan Padmore on Anthony Butcher’s corrupt Forum, which provides him with almost as duplicitous a platform as the very common man does, which is widely believed in its surrilous anonimity and serial duplicity to be Mark Croucher acting through a pseudonym or assosciate to further harm EUkip.

Being supplied with relevant internal legal documents – idiotic as they may well be! Shows beyond reasonable doubt that Croucher’s sordid behaviour is rewarded by EUkip as he has absolutely no personal claim to a right to information nor any moral right to distort and misrepresent to defame the actions of decent and honourable individuals.

That Mark Croucher is assisted in his underhand and duplicitous behaviour by the bufoon Bob Feel Martinis who has done so much to harm UKIP and its reputation by supporting and thus colluding in corruption – together with the liar and cheat Mick McGough who has been shown beyond doubt to be a liar for his own personal gain CLICK HERE

It is clear that croucher is being supplied with legal advice given to EUkip – presumably by Rachel Oxley as even Ma Zucherman the claimed Solicitor and Party Secretary would not, surely, be so crass as to have wasted time producing this foolish document, albeit Croucher, in his duplicity, may have selectively quoted from the document!

Clearly the advice is crass as it is founded on assumptions when it is perfectly clear to all mut a malicious interpretation that a genuine effort was made by merely ONE individual to provide some assistance to any private individual unable to sustain their persuit of justice against an undeniably corrupt organisation namely EUkip – with seemingly unlimited access to members funds and funds from the tax payer with which to bully and intimidate decent people and cheat for its own ends – that they have cheated and corrupted due process is beyond all reasonable doubt CLICK HERE

That their senior members have lied and cheated is undeniable.

Further that they have indulged in Witness Intimidation is unarguable.

That they have on provable occasions been prepared to bear false witness and distort fact to suit their personal gain is attested to.

We now have further attempts to defame and bully.

I would contend that this shows beyond all reasonable doubt that EUkip leadership, NEC, MEPs and senior staff have shown themselves unfit for any public office.

Should anyone wish to proceed against EUkip via The Police, OLAF, The Electoral Commission, Data Protection Commission, Standards in Public Life or any similar body please be advised and absolutely certain that there is not one word in the entirety of this Blog revealing fact after fact after fact of the behaviour of EUkip that I would not be willing to attest to in any Court of Law, in the context in which I presented the material.

I am happy to have any version I may have posted used as evidence as I have NEVER set out to decieve, lie or dissemble – nor defame any individual without substance. Nor make any alteration other than to correct facts or clarify the meaning/intent of my posting.

Naturally in view of the ease with which EUkip have been raising money to fund their self enrichment scam as MEPs and their parasites has given them the realisation that the so called defence fund is now so large financial advisers have advocated holdings in Gold via Swiss Bankers – and one who is all too well aware of EUkip’s corruption may well assist us as he is domicile in Zurich!

However do read this scurrilous material from EUkip and its agents seemingly desperate to prevent any blockage on their way to the troughs of the EU, where as we know an MEP can easily trouser £1,000,000 in a single term at the expense of the tax payer leaving much slack to fund associates invest in wine, buy pubs for retirement, pay wives, fund mistresses, purchase prostitutes, enrich their pensions and all at the tax payers expense for more details on the self enrichment programme that is the incentive for such reprehensible behaviour as shown by Croucher and others CLICK HERE:

Originally Posted by UKIP internal report

In order to overcome the suggestion in
(No (a) above would seem to be quoted! G.L-W.)
(a) above, Mr Lance Watkins then modified the call for funds.
Initially, it was suggested that numbered receipts would be issued to all donors.
In light of the information in (a), this was subsequently changed to the issuance of anonymous receipts, making the donors difficult if not impossible to trace, and thus assisting them in evading their liability in the event of an unsuccessful legal action.
The ultimate loser in this plan would be UKIP, should it successfully defend a legal action brought by beneficiaries of the fund, as it would then be unable to recoup its legal costs.
(Nonsense – the claim for costs, in the unlikely event that the individual being persecuted by EUkip lost any case they may bring, would, if awarded, be claimed against the plaintiff)
The controllers of this fund (in the form of a steering committee) were then listed as being Dr Eric Edmonds, Mr Niall Warry, Mr John & Mrs Alison West.

The assumption is that Mr Greg Lance Watkins would join these individuals.

Evasion of Liability
The starting point is the Doctrine of Evasion, a fundamental public policy. In essence, it states, “Whereas a person may legitimately plan his or her affairs so as to avoid the incidence of obligations or liabilities imposed by the law, no-one is allowed to evade the operation of otherwise mandatory provisions once duties and liabilities have been properly imposed or incurred”.
If we accept that the intention of the fund was to evade the liability of individual members, then clearly an offence has been committed. In actual fact, these offences are of a criminal nature, and consist of fraud, conspiracy to defraud and money laundering Fraud Act 2006 C35 Section 3 states:
3 Fraud by failing to disclose information A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a) dishonestly fails to disclose to another person information which he is under a legal duty to disclose, and
(b) intends, by failing to disclose the information—
(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or
(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.
Criminal Justice Act 1987 Section 12 (1) states:
If (a) a person agrees with any other person or persons that a course of conduct shall be pursued;
and (b) that course of conduct will necessarily amount to or involve the commission of any offence or offences by one or more of the parties to the agreement if the agreement is carried out in accordance with their intentions, the fact that it will do so shall not preclude a charge of conspiracy to defraud being brought against any of them in respect of the agreement.
Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 C29 Part 7 Section 327
(3) states:Concealing or disguising criminal property includes concealing or disguising its nature, source, location, disposition, movement or ownership or any rights with respect to it.
Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 C29 Part 7 Section 328
(1) states:A person commits an offence if he enters into or becomes concerned in an arrangement which he knows or suspects facilitates (by whatever means) the acquisition, retention, use or control of criminal property by or on behalf of another person.
Nothing in the above precludes the possiblity of other legislation being contravened, particularly political legislation, ie Political Parties, Elections & Referndums Act, but the focus of this report has been on criminal law.

To view the original posting of this crass extract posted on behalf of EUkip by Mark Croucher on a public Forum CLICK HERE

This is a staggering revelation of the incompetence of EUkip and their fundamental dishonesty in asking a gullible and ill informed public to vote for them.

Clearly they are wasting a huge amount of member’s money (when you appreciate that to form and set up a Limited Company can be done for under a couple of hundred Pounds yet they were instructed to allocate £10,000+vat for the task by Ma Zucherman for the task – it was only the intervention of Del Young that resulted in the request being turned down and subsequently Ma Zucherman gained £5,000+vat) Minded of the cost of lawyers when using amateurs to appoint them imagine the cost of this opinion, when you consider it seemingly is but an extract!)

As was originally admitted on the request for funds to help cover the costs of the Wests legal actions, donors to a legal expenses fund are liable for costs in the event of an unsuccessful action.
To avoid donors having to cover this cost, the fund was specifically set up so as to anonymise donors, making them impossible to trace.
The only potential loser in this set up was UKIP, who would remain out of pocket even if they won their case as their costs could not be recovered.
It has already been discussed elsewhere how the fund, despite collecting for the Wests, failed to hand over any of the money. And how despite the fund being ‘anonymous’, Niall Warry was supposedly able to contact the donors.
One question remains, which is why Snipped-Watkins substantially altered the text on his original call for funds to remove most references to the anonymity granted to donors. One possible answer could come from the following report:
This item above was prefixed to the idiotic and amateur opinion led by EUkip’s appointed adviser as quoted.
This however followed it as the malicious and mendacious Croucher’s summary!
Could this be the reason why Petrina refused to participate in the fund, because its basis was founded on criminal actions and evasions of legal liabilities, the precedent for which was set by Tolstoy v Aldington? Are the perpetrators of this fund guilty of fraud, while the donors are guilty of conspiracy to defraud? Clearly Liar-Watkins knew there was a legal liability to cover costs in the event of an unsuccessful action, as that was the point of anonymising the fund. Did he incite the commission of a crime with the terms of the fund? Is he now trying to cover his tracks by substantially altering the original posting?RgdsM
Mark Croucher is in fact libelling individuals but as it is understood that he has all but nothing to his name and has NEVER acted honourably or been seen to in this matter or related matters it is unlikely that anyone could be bothered taking action as it is likely a Court would merely state ‘consider the source’!

Mark Croucher has built himself a reputation over many years, as can be shown withing EUkip and on their Web Site, as an unreliable and duplicitous witness. Quite clearly inm the hands of a fool a little knowledge claimed is a dangerous thing! Yet again he The BFM and Mick McGough have brought EUkip into disrepute.

Seemingly, based on the most febrile of claims, EUkip through their agents seek to carry out a vendetta. They may have noticed that when there were attacks on me and others I count as friends I commenced a widespread broadcast of facts exposing EUkip’s corruption.

EUkip and its surrogates saw fit to make fatuous and dishonest quasi legal threats and so I increased the output of facts.

EUkip lied and bullied the weak and unethical Anthony Butcher who abused his position and supported by the dishonest and morally reprehensible behaviour of Brendan Padmore chose to dishonourably act against me without legitimate grounds. I raised the output publishing additional EUkip documentation.

That I was lied about and misrepresented without any right of reply and claims already cleared were repeated by the intellectually challenged Bob Feel Martinis whose propensity for Mangling the English language has become a joke – yet we note on occasions his handlers write coherent comment for him, and the repetitive duplicity of McGough who is proven a liar and a cheat together with Croucher, Denny and others – has merely raised the stakes.

That EUkip endorsed the oh so common man in a series of particularly unpleasant comments about honourable people based on no material facts and so I have expanded my presence on thhe Blogs.

I seek no office – merely that Justice is seen to be done with the soliciting of donations from honest men and women of integrity to aid people oppressed by a proven corrupt large organisation clearly has scared the corrupt and challenged their route to the troughs on the gravy train!

Were the posturings and idiocy of EUkip’s behaviour genuine I am sure after at least 300 postings by me exposing fact after fact to the best of my personal ability would clearly – if my revelations were untrue have led to legal action to silence me. Howver as not one word have I stated wittingly defaming anyone or bearing false witness.

These people are beneath contempt and I guess since my actions have been proven factually correct and their only defence is to seek to defame me personally and other honourable individuals perhaps we may need to raise the stakes.

I do not believe there is any place for liars and cheats in British Politics and I would and have taken the same actions against individuals of ALL parties when they have come to light as can be proven.

I do not believe that ANY of EUkip’s leading candidates are fit for office – I believe them to be corrupt, dishonest and duplicitous.

That EUkip dares to claim WE seek to enrich ourselves fraudullently when seemingly that is their sole purpose politically! One need only read their last set of minutes wherein the did not mention a single matter of political consequence, merely how they can get back on The Gravy Train and how they can silence the truth and manage information internally – You ain’t seen nothing yet!

It is interesting to note that as example EUkip stooped so low as to cite the underhand and duplicitous EUkip PPC Tolstoy (have they no shame – for further details CLICK HERE)as their prescedent and were forced to distort ECHR as of some relevance to my attempt to assist any individual oppressed by the corrupt and dis leadership, NEC and senior supporters of EUkip who have all, without question colluded in dishonesty and corruption.

I would rather be ruled by the EU than betrayed by EUkip.

It is my opinion that denied the pretence of democracy provided by the EU bribing EUkip as usefull idiots we are within our legal rights to take any action we see fit to redeem our independent sovereignty, Justice and the fundamental human risht of self determination.

In that EUkip’s MEPs have done virtually nothing of value towards liberating these United Kingdoms in the 15+ years of the party and the election of 15 MEPs over 10 years save only as advised CLICK HERE enrich 15 individuals as £Millionaires – individuals who to a man have acted duplicitously, venally, dishonourably or stupidlt in betrayal of the principles it was perceived they were elected upon.

EUkip would be wise to clean up its own act where seemingly over £1,000,000 have gone missing, one must assume trousered, the accounts are a shambles, the selection of candidates was shamefull in its dishonesty, the present treasurer has as little integrity as each of those since John de Roeke left.

One must ask oneself if there is not one single one of these low lifes you can trust why would one vote for such people.

We do note that now out of self interest they seek a router back to the self enrichment scams where they have proved UTTERLY inefectual and unfit for purpose – yet we note they intend to invest a great deal in their personal re-election I am informed one candidate so enjoyed the ride on the gravy train that he intend to put £50,000 into his own campaign as it will pay dividends – hardly surprising when we are given to believe he may have made over £1,000,000 on his firast ride.

Need I say more?

Perhaps the imbeciles shoul;d report to a police station if they are so convinced that some misdemeanour has occurred.

Put up or shut up and return to the slime in the gutter from whence you came.

No fraud has been committed nor was any fraud to aid those oppressed dishonestly by EUkip. The matter of the fund are absolutely none of your business.

Perhaps whilst on the subject of dishonesty you might advise whether Nigel Farage has returned the money stolen by Tom Wise that was given to him to pay off his personal debt to Tom Wise’s accomplace Lindsay Jenkins as reported in the media. We note having been under arrest since last June Tom Wise surrenders to bail on the 26th. I understand.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country.

Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

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